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"Serious Depressive Episode" May Have Driven Germanwings Pilot To "Criminal, Mad, Suicidal" Action, Prosecutors Allege
Andreas Lubitz, the 28-year-old co-pilot who murder-suicided a plane full of 150 people into the Alps, had been judged to have suffered a "serious depressive episode" around the time he suspended his training in 2009, according to internal documents cited by Germany's Bild. As Reuters reports, Lubitz had broken off his training in 2009 and reportedly spent a year in psychiatric treatment but as the Lufthansa CEO noted, "After he was cleared again, he resumed training. He passed all the subsequent tests and checks with flying colors. His flying abilities were flawless." French Prime Minister Manuel Valls urged patience during the investigation but stated, "everything points to a criminal, mad, suicidal action that we cannot comprehend."
As The Wall Street Journal reports, the Germanwings co-pilot who appeared to intentionally crash an airliner into a French mountainside this week, killing himself and 149 passengers and crew, received a note from a doctor excusing him from work but apparently tore it up, a German prosecutor said Friday.
The prosecutor said evidence collected in a search of Andreas Lubitz’ Düsseldorf apartment on Thursday afternoon did not include a suicide note and gave no indication of a political or religious motive for his apparent decision to crash the plane.
“However documents were confiscated that contained medical information indicating an existing medical treatment,” the Düsseldorf prosecutor said in a statement.
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“Doctor’s notes that were found that were current and for the day of the incident support the assumption, based on a preliminary evaluation, that the deceased concealed his illness from his employer and work environment,” the prosecutor said in the statement.
Earlier, Germany’s Federal Aviation Office said that Mr. Lubitz had a medical condition noted in his pilot’s medical certificate, but the spokesman couldn’t say whether the record was related to his mental or physical health because the information was confidential.
And as Reuters adds, Lubitz broke off his training six years ago due to depression and spent over a year in psychiatric treatment, a German newspaper reported on Friday.
Lufthansa Chief Executive Carsten Spohr acknowledged at a news conference on Thursday that Lubitz had broken off his training in 2009 but did not explain why. He said there was nothing in the pilot's background to suggest he was a risk.
"After he was cleared again, he resumed training. He passed all the subsequent tests and checks with flying colors. His flying abilities were flawless," Spohr said.
But Bild, citing internal documents forwarded by Lufthansa's Aeromedical Center to German authorities, reported that Lubitz had suffered from depression and anxiety, and had been judged to have suffered a "serious depressive episode" around the time he suspended his training.
Lufthansa and German prosecutors declined to comment on the report, which is likely to raise questions about the airline's screening procedures for its pilots and, if confirmed, could expose it to substantial liabilities in the crash.
Friends are stunned....
“He was a quiet person…not someone who tried to be the center of attention,” the club’s Mr. Rücker said.
Jörg Kämpflein—a flight club board member who has been with the club since 1993—said he was “surprised, astonished” by the allegations surrounding Mr. Lubitz. These, he said, “in no way” fitted his personality. Klaus Radke, president of the club, said Mr. Lubitz had renewed his pilot’s license to fly alone when he last visited.
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Because nothing fixes despression and anxiety like smashing a plane into a mountain at 500mph.
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BS I joke about faggotry often, but I worked around them for years in the TV biz. My tailor is a gay guy. They are not insane. Warped maybe, but that leaves more cooter for me.
What is warped is all the faggotry promotion going on in society.
I completely agree on the homosexual promotion angle, way over done and warped. That's the way the State takes power away from the family to centralise control; it doesn't mean that the homosexuals themselves are warped.
Looks like a faggot, they are sick dangerous people
Adam Lanza 2: Cockpit Bugaboo
I heard on the news this morning that anti-depressants can have the side-effect of reducing impulse control. It suddenly clicked why kids who take them actually have increased rates of suicide. I suspect the same effect here.
Seems like we need to re-evaluate the drugs you can take that make you unfit for duty here.
Was he texting?
I have a personal horror story involving Prozac. I confirm that it does indeed reduce impulse control AND it altered my thinking in a way that was unsustainable within a DAY of taking the stuff.
I was TOLD it would take two weeks to take effect and that was clearly bullpuckey. Since I rapidly became a (consciousless) danger to others, I chose to discontinue the treatment and take responsibilty for my own mind.
We are taught that other (more "qualified" people) have all the answers, I actually found that the best treatment for depression was to fix the bloody problems that were depressing me, and ignore the ones that are out of my power to fix.
My personal experience and observations suggest that an illegal drug dealer is far more likely to understand the full range of effetc s of his product and provide useful consumer safety information than any doctor or pharmacist.
Sometimes depression is related to some chemical defficiency so there's no un derlying "problem". Sort of like people who have low vitamin D may have seasonal disorder or lack of iron in the blood can cause schizoid thinking.
Coo Coo Bird
One would think that someone that had an episode in the past that required a year of therapy would not be cleared to continue because of the risk of another episode.
We said the same thing about the bankers, got out voted.
inbreeding causes insanity among other personality defects, which is why it is strongly discouraged in most circles.
"You nuts wanna play cards or what!?"
"I bet a buck."
Last few times I've flown the pilots look younger than I am...they look like they are dressed up for halloween. You can tell when someone doesn't belong in a uniform, like a fat Marine. When I see a pilot who is middle aged and up they look seasoned, confident, I feel I can put trust in them. These kids shouldn't be allowed to fly, the screening process should be age.
there shouldn't be cops under the age of thirty either. Then screen them for crazy.
Could care less what ailment he had.
He had no right to take all those lives!
This mother fucker bought a one way ticket to HELL!
1) there is no hell
2) he had legal right - he had pilot licence and was assigned to pilot that plane by his employer
3) maybe you think he did not have the moral right but we are free to choose our morals as we wish
Hell and legal right are one in the same.
They are concepts.
If they breath they are. Stop breathing and check your concepts.
ssri?
That was my exact comment on this story yesterday.
Sorry to break it to Turdy; there is no hell. That's a, very effective, tool created by the religious/political elites to control the masses....makes it easy to keep you in poverty and to convince you to pick up a weapon and die "in the name of the Lord".
So, this is the story eh????
Outlaw airplanes. It is the scarebuses fault for not defending the People.
give me a break - the medical note was dated the same date the plane crashed ?
How fast one can get a medical conclusion then fly to other country and be on the way back crashing the plane in the morning hours ?
and dont forget, he "tore it up."
<cough> </cough>
It is common in Germany to get a Doctor to sign a statement that you are sick. It's also necessary for most jobs when you're out due to sickness. It's like an absence note for schoolkids in the US, only it's written by a doctor. Much like the US rule if you're out sick for more than 3 days the school needs a doctor's note.
'Krankengeschrieben' (written off as ill) can be for the period of time the doctor thinks you need to stay out of work. If this guy went to the doctor the day before and was written off as ill for a week then the statement that he tore up a note for being ill on that day would be correct.
Doctors' offices open early as well, say around 8:00. He could possibly have gotten a note that day, but it's more likely he was written off in the days before.
You can get written off for depression, it's not unusual. Actually, nothing about this guy seems to be so unusual that it starts throwing off red flags.
The Nobel Prize Winner kills a lot more and no one complains - in fact, he is most admired man in this world in 2014 Gallup poll:
Today, the world’s greatest single campaign of terror entails the execution of entire families, guests at weddings, mourners at funerals. These are Obama’s victims. According to the New York Times, Obama makes his selection from a CIA “kill list” presented to him every Tuesday in the White House Situation Room. He then decides, without a shred of legal justification, who will live and who will die. His execution weapon is the Hellfire missile carried by a pilotless aircraft known as a drone; these roast their victims and festoon the area with their remains. Each “hit” is registered on a faraway console screen as a “bugsplat”.
“For goose-steppers,” wrote the historian Norman Pollock, “substitute the seemingly more innocuous militarisation of the total culture. And for the bombastic leader, we have the reformer manque, blithely at work, planning and executing assassination, smiling all the while.”
Uniting fascism old and new is the cult of superiority. “I believe in American exceptionalism with every fibre of my being,” said Obama, evoking declarations of national fetishism from the 1930s.
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/03/05/crazed-washington-drives-worl...
Ein Arschloch, that was he was. Had the same some years ago outside my place. A young bloke from up my Street drove his Car into a big Tree outside my place because his Girlfriend gave him the heave oh, but the Airbag on the Steering saved him. Bloody mad.
I'm sorry for the tree
I have a problem believing the "official" story of the co-pilot crashed the plane etc etc. here is why:
With visual evidence of the Germanwings Flight 9525 crash site showing it rained down in thousands of small pieces causing a massive debris field covering hundreds of acres across numerous mountain ranges, and with no one single impact point being able to be identified.
“Constant monitoring of all aircraft in the Maintenance Control Center Lufthansa Technik's Maintenance Control Center monitors the technical status of the serviced aircraft worldwide, both on the ground and in the air, and controls necessary procedures. The structural statuses of the aircraft and the due dates for required and planned modifications and tasks are constantly tracked and monitored.
Everything that is part of fleet management is controlled here around the clock and around the world. At the Lufthansa Traffic Control Center in Frankfurt, staff compile all required data on the Lufthansa fleet operating worldwide using what is known as the ACARS system (Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System), a data network using HF radio and satellites, and analyze it. Potential faults are immediately detected, corrected in real time.”
edit: you decide
This statement puzzles me: "Mr. Robin said the plane’s voice recorder showed that Mr. Lubitz was breathing normally in the moments leading up to the crash, indicating that he had deliberately crashed the plane."
The puzzle to me is if the voice recorder was hearing Lubitz breathing, why wasn't the GPWS (Ground Proximity Warning System) heard loudly saying "PULL UP! PULL UP!" ?
Every modern jet has a GPWS and it should've been issuing a warning when it detected imminent contact with terrain under the conditions that existed just prior to the crash.
Is there some indication that it wasn't doing that? I've read that all relevant warnings were going off in the cabin.
Also, just because the warning system says pull up doesn't mean he's going to if he's hell bent on dying.
try it yourself with your Iphone microphone - record "breathing" with a loud squawk box noise in the background - how easy is it?
why would you dismiss this point and accept the official statement as gospel - who has axe to grind? - narrative to protect?
It's a digitially created sound, I doubt it hard to guess the overall and frequency dependent gain (and where it clips) and mostly cancel it out ... I assume they already have software to cancel out the most obnoxious stuff.
PS. I was surprised on a quick search to not find any COTS software to do it, but I did find a patent and a thesis on it ... I'm sure the bigger secret services have software for this shit.
He probably turned it off, or it didn't go off because of the steepness of the mountains.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_proximity_warning_system
I don't believe for a second what the official story is on this crash.
I couldn't agree more. Let us see the passenger manifest to see who was on board that flight that had an axe to grind with TPTB...then you will have an answer as to the "why" the plane went down.
No need for a passenger manifest - it's pretty obvious what the objective here was.
A certain country stepped out of line recently and sought to pursue a path not approved by their masters. Said country has just been informed via sledge hammer-to-forehead that any more independent thought will result in serious hardship for said country's industries and economy.
I think it is safe to assume the message has been received and will be taken into consideration before any further adventurism is contemplated.
My opinion on this one was it was just the piliot acting alone, probably partially because of the SSRIs he was most likley on. The Oligarchs aren't behind everything. Evidence may come out later, but so far I haven't seen anything that suggests this was a planned event by anyone other than the nutso pilot.
THAT IS FUCKING STUPID!!!
you have "heard" one narrative with NO Facts -....you said: "but so far I haven't seen anything "
i havent seen - - >says it all dumb fuck<
The crash itself? Maybe not. The cover up? That's the oligarchs all over.
ISLAM .... I SLAM my plane into Mountain ?
I slam my wife at night when nobodys watching.
You sure nobody's watching?
monetas
your angle is this is a jew who converted to islam is that it my boy.
what a psychotic wanker you are i think you need some of this jewish pilots meds my boy already : )
Just eat your bagel and be quiet.
Damn prosecutors. Who are they going to prosecute? I particularly like the states that go after people even if charges weren't filed. I understand the whole rape thing, but they've extended it to everything. You know, keep those pensions padded.
And speaking of security doors -- we now have a policy in the US that let's flight crews bypass TSA security screenings. They just walk past carrying their overnight bag. How easy it would be for the co-pilot to bring a gun aboard, shoot the pilot, lock the security door, and repeat this same thing.
Security is not to protect the 99% but rather to protect the 1%.
what a cunt.... locking door and letting plane go down slowly.... real kamikaz men grab the stick 2 handed and plunge
maybe he was aiming at a specific target, not just any mountain...
We should only let Government employees pilot commercial aircraft.
This is quite possibly the dumbest comment I have ever seen. Gov't idiots in charge.
Why didn't he crash the plane into a tall building. Go out with a huge BANG.
anybody knows how far the nearest nuclear plant or nuclear research center is from the crash site ?
That would be CERN about 200km away from the crash site.
It is down at the moment, and being a particle accelerator it wouldn't contain nearly as much harmful substances as any nuclear power plant, which France has plenty of. The nearest would be, if I remember it right, Tricastin ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tricastin_Nuclear_Power_Plant ) and Marcoule ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcoule_Nuclear_Site ).
Thanks,
now we need his exact flight path as well, including altitude. Anyone ?
If the govs want us to believe them, they better publish ALL info on the internet, including the voice recordings.
Nothing less than complete transparency will do for me in this situation.
Transparency? Good luck on that one. But I'm sure "they" will do their very best.
hmm, well if "they" do not care if I have confidence in them, then that has consequences for my acceptance of their authority.
100 percent transparency can sometimes be asked for too much and I am certainly not always willing to provide it, but here 150 people died in a situation that could have happened to ALL of us. I believe it is right to demand transparency here.
Thats a great excuse if you're trying to cover something up.
I figured Tyler would have covered this
US Laser Test Destroys Germanwings Airliner
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1852.htm
Sorcha Faal on drugs.
According to Speisa.com, he recently converted to Muslim.
Found article on BIN!
Just sayin'...
I have a problem believing the "official" story of the co-pilot crashed the plane etc etc. here is why:
With visual evidence of the Germanwings Flight 9525 crash site showing it rained down in thousands of small pieces causing a massive debris field covering hundreds of acres across numerous mountain ranges, and with no one single impact point being able to be identified.
“Constant monitoring of all aircraft in the Maintenance Control Center Lufthansa Technik's Maintenance Control Center monitors the technical status of the serviced aircraft worldwide, both on the ground and in the air, and controls necessary procedures. The structural statuses of the aircraft and the due dates for required and planned modifications and tasks are constantly tracked and monitored.
Everything that is part of fleet management is controlled here around the clock and around the world. At the Lufthansa Traffic Control Center in Frankfurt, staff compile all required data on the Lufthansa fleet operating worldwide using what is known as the ACARS system (Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System), a data network using HF radio and satellites, and analyze it. Potential faults are immediately detected, corrected in real time.”
edit: you decide
Maybe he was wearing those earbuds in the cockpit? Possibly a "motivational" CD?
If anybody is crazy, it's probably the government...
"The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable."
H. L. Mencken
Anybody knows where exactly the fighter jet took off from ?
The Doctors "note" clearly stated that Mr Lubitz was hearing voices in his head coming from the neighbors dog,but that he was still fit to fly,since the "dog" had said so..
Son of ISLAM?
The "officials" sure came to this conclusion in a hurry, much like Breitbart's cause of death being announced within two hours of his death.
Anbody knows anything about the other pilot ?
Nothing but he picked the wrong day to leave his nine pound sledge hammer at home.
So you assume the other pilot had nothing to do with the crash, while at the same time admitting you do not know anything about him.
The info of the voice recorder can not be verified by the general public. A lot of details about the pilots can be verified. Why no info on the second pilot ?
To be serious I know nothing about either pilot except that which told me, and neither does anyone else. Ah yes facebook.
What, no text or cell phone calls or even films during those last eight minutes from any passenger watching a pilot beat on the cockpit door?
"and neither does anyone else"
I am sure there are people who know a lot about the other pilot.
On lack of facebook or mobile phone messages : I do not think all planes in Euope have in-flight internet or mobile phone services.
Just saw this.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germanwings-captain-patrick-sondenheimer-tried-to-break-into-locked-cockpit-door-with-an-axe-as-plane-was-descending-10138492.html
thanks !
was he a muslim
no
was he a jewisher
sure lookin good
did he have a breakdown in israel
was he repaired in israheil
what countries jets where escorting these german wings
who was on the plane
so many talmoo dick questions
in the complex world of zion ism
just askin
'spent a year in psychiatric treatment'...
Well that's fuckin marvelous.
This was a mass homicide. I didn't know that depressed people became maniacal killers. This story is too pat, too soon. The responsible governments (Germany, France, Spain - Airbus principals) are running away from terrorism/pilot quals/aircraft maintenance/autopilot failure/control systems malfunction as root causes. They have strong vested interests in the Airbus and Lufthansa brands, and the critical recorder is still "missing."
"Too bad about that airplane crash, Angela. Say, did you knowI can fly planes with a remote control? I think it's a bad idea to join that China bank thing. Let's you and me have a girl-to-girl talk."
Maybe he OD'd on cannabis. I had no idea there were so many cases of this.
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/03/25/marijuana-edibles-blamed-for-keyst...
After extensive testing, doctors concluded that Mr. Lubitz did not suffer from extraordinary depression and anxiety, he was simply German.
as a Germanoid I can relate to that :-)
but then I can somehow relate to more than I would want to share
GERMAN prosecutors revealed the “significant discovery” made at Germanwing co-pilot Andreas Lubitz’s home was a sick note covering the day of the crash.
Prosecutors found torn-up and current sick leave notices suggesting he was ill and receiving medical treatment, backing up suspicions he hid his illness from his employer and colleagues. While investigators did not specify what illness Lubitz had, German media reports he needed ongoing assessments for severe depression, BBC reports.
The news comes following revelations the captain used an axe to try and get back into the cockpit. German daily Bild cited security sources saying the captain,
Patrick Sonderheimer, tried using an axe to break down the cockpit’s armoured door.
This could not be immediately confirmed, but a spokesman for Germanwings confirmed to AFP that an axe was on board the aircraft.
Such a tool is “part of the safety equipment of an A320,” the spokesman told Bild.
Lubitz reportedly suffered a major breakdown following a recent relationship breakdown.
According to The Telegraph in the UK,
Lubitz was engaged to be married next year, but had recently broken up with his fiancee.
It is understood that the 28-year-old was struggling to cope after the relationship failed.
The theory emerged hours after The Guardian reported Lubitz stopped his training to be a pilot six years ago because he was suffering from “psychological problems”.
The report, quoted from German daily Bild, said the Lufthansa flight school in Phoenix designated Lubitz at the time as “not suitable for flying”.
Yesterday, police announced they had made a “significant discovery” at Lubitz’s home in Dusseldorf.
German media also reported that police were investigating one particular piece of paper which they believe held clues to Lubitz’s horrific actions.
Markus Niesczery of Dusseldorf Police told the Daily Mail: “We wanted to search to see if we could find something that would explain what happened.”
“We have found something which will now be taken for tests. We cannot say what it is at the moment but it may be a very significant clue to what has happened,” Mr Niesczery said.
http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/what-we-know-about-a320-co-...
WR;)
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Watch Bild it is suspect. The main thing is to protect Airbus from blame in both France and Germany.
We always hear in these situations that it will be at least 6 months to determine the cause of the crash. This time we have the guy who did it, the motive, what he ate for breakfast, facebook photos, and every last bit of detail that normally wouldn't be reported for at least 6 months - if ever. This is all too conveeeeeeeenient for my liking.
stateside
Sometimes, it's just a wild and crazy guy.
So your position is when they take too long to figure things out they take too long, but when they figure things out quickly it's a conspiracy? take off the tin foil hat please.
when you shoot a bullet through a paper target it makes a semi clean hole. It does not approach the target and fragment into a thousand pieces and then pepper the target. If that jet flew into that mountain on any kind of angle that debris field should be very limited in area covered. All views of that crash site from the air show debris scattered as far as you can see. It stinks. I am not a physicist or engineer or air crash specialist. It is all fishy. That debris field appears to go on forever. Just saying,,,, good weekend to all.
IF you shoot a fibre glass bullet at a granite rock face it shatters into powder.
Modern aeroplanes aren't made primarily out of aloominum any more they are made of new fangled plastic componds which behave differently to aloominum when you smack 'em into a mountain.
The A320 is constructed out of quite a bit of aluminum. Of course the angle of impact is going to determine where all the bits go. . .
Gee, this was solved fast, unlike some other airplane crashes we know of......
You referring to the other crashes in which islamic vermin were involved, BOTH in causing the loss AND in the cover-up ?????
Can't tell anyone about this condition because it's "confidential" between doctor and patient. Sure makes me feel good now about flying
.... Airlines.
That's what they said about these people.
Dylan Bennet Klebold
James Holmes
Adam Lanza
Jared Lee Loughner
Andreas Lubitz
Not one of these people is Muslim but the do share the same DNA.
Notice once the MSM found out who he was they stopped reporting on the terrorist angle. And ole Matt Drudge wiped the big red letters right of his site. When you inbreed with 15 million people eventually you start to have mental issues. This same thing happen in the early 1900's and look how that turned out.
Like most Germans I've come across he was first, and foremost just an asshole
The person who designed the lock button which cannot be unlocked from outside is an idiot. If anyone gets inside, the airplane is basically fucked.
I am not buying it without all the facts. Lets see what the flight data recorder has to say first.
I don't think we will ever get to hear flight data recorders ever again.
I cannot recall a single incident in the past where it did not take weeks even months for the cockpit recorder data to be publicized.
The whole thing stinks of misdirection.
Just another symptom of a culture with no moral compass.
Very convenient. US gets briefed by France and leaks to NY Times before French Prosecutor holds news conference. German papers report NY Times.
Lufthansa has a problem with German Wings airbus A320 -
http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/362206-toxic-cabin-air-found-new-plane-st...
So where is the "who's who" from the passenger manifest?
Maybe he got an ObamaCare premium notice? Sure would depress the shit out of me.
www.traderzoo.mobi
Diddin do nuffin.
to think the facts are just coming out about the Boston Bomber....it shows the joke America has become. If this was Obama running the show...they would know nothing at this point
I haven't heard how they know it was the pilot who stepped out for a piss, and not the kid.
Anytime a plane goes down one has to ask was anyone on that flight that would be wanted dead by any of the worlds intelligence agencies. Plane crashs are the perfect cover for murder. In this case why would a co-pilot plan a sucide based on the pilot going out of the cabin to go to the bathroom. What if the pilot did not have to go.....was he going to wait for another flight to kill himself on. Seems unlikely.....what is more likely is that this plane was targeted to go down based on who was on it. Passenger manefests only tell a partial story as people travel under cover. On the flight we had an American with ties to the Geospacial agency, an Israeli, a few Iranians and who knows who else who may have been using the low cost air flight as cover. The cockpit door could be over ridden based on this training video from Airbus.
http://www.lemonde.fr/europe/video/2015/03/26/une-video-d-airbus-expliqu...
Even with both pilots out cold there was an override it get in. So why was it not functional. Because it was deactivated not by the copilot but remotely as these planes are all capable to be flown by wire remotely. The copilot was out cold from either a drink he did not know he was given or gas in the cabin....the flight them remotely piloted into the mountain side. No evedence....no bodies to autopsy. It's also interesting that the cockpit voice revorders were found and could be read but the flight data recorder, the black boxes, were found with the memory card missing.....feels, looks and smell of a black ops hit.....
If I fly again and anyone I notice even look the wrong way, I'm knocking their ass out. Jaw in several pieces out...
what?
Flights are full of terrorists these days.
One of the side effects of SSRIs is drowsiness. If he was taking these, maybe he just fell asleep at the wheel.
I don't buy this. He might have been depressed, but that's a FAR CRY from being homicidal.
Anyone remember Booz Allen Hamilton?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3011260/American-contractor-grown-daughter-identified-two-Americans-died-French-Alps-crash.html
very interesting http://heavy.com/news/2015/03/yvonne-selke-booz-hamilton-daughter-emily-...
This is a small reminder to Germany from US:
1. get signed TTIP
2. support weapons to Ukraine.
not more and not less.
the story with the door is a full stupidity.
a very quick resolution of the issue, coming from the mouth of a prosecutor AND NOT FROM ANY AVIATION EXPERT-INVESTIGATOR, TELLS IT ALL.
i STILL remember killing of TOTAL ceo Moscow airport (HELLO sERCO), the accident of new russian jet liner (exhibition tour) in Indonesia and MH370.
All accidents in a range of 0,0000001, means once in million years.
Thosse accidents all happen, when it is convenient to somebody.
Hence those are no accidents anymore, but conspiracies. there might be conspiracy theorists, but the main stream media employs coincidence theorists, where the coincidences can happen once in a million years. A reminder: the planes are barely more, than 100 years old, we have a way to go until 1 million years of airplanes flying.
Nice background check, Lufthansa.
How many other suicidal psychotics, white muzzies, Jihad Joes or Phoenix Academy Flight School grads do you have flying around the world?
Better check your HR Dept, STAT.
shovelhead are you jewish?
well this pilot was.
do you think this jewish pilot was think muzzie jihad thoughts in the last moments.
seems a little odd yes no
shovel you really are a silly naughty rabbi
wrong again Tony
see below
There have been Jewish people convert to Islam and visa versa
You can't seem to get your head out of your ass.
Much like Marx, Mohammed was a freeloading rabbi mooch who claimed he was the messiah. Technically all muslims are jews, in the same way catholics and protestants are christians. Exactly the same claim khazars make to judaism. Only 7 more generations to go! Riiight... Joe. Like christianity and LDS, islam is a branch of the ancient oriental plague of magical thinking propaganda. Don't have a cow, man. As you can see by their conduct, the catholics and protestants are christian in name only. Its All Bullshit. Get off the meds, kick the electronic heroin, discern the truth and give your parasites the treatment.
jewish man that converted to islam
let me think ummm
yes
ADAM GADAHN AKA ADAM PEARLMAN HEAD JEW OF THE AL QAEDAhttps://wideawakegentile.wordpress.com/2014/03/19/adam-pearlman-head-joo...
tony your guitar has only one string
yup, Tony is a textbook troll. Every article, regardless of topic, he does the same unreadable post.
This demonstrated that people in position of high responsibility can have mental problems . There is another category of people in our society that are responsible for wars , colored revolutions , coup d'etat and assassinations of politican opponents . Isn't the time to have the mentally deranged in the White House and Brussels forced to visit a shrink ? We could save ourselves a lot of trouble and tears if Obongo , Nulan , Merkel , Draghi , Yellen and all the 5th columnist with dual passport visited a psychiatrist .
Why? Sociopaths are the psychiatrist's despair.
If shooting them really isn't an option, send Barry and company to supermax, and see to it they only leave it again in the box that takes their ashes to a convenient landfill. That's where they belong.
He kept saying he wanted all of the snackbar. Serious depression right there, eating his feelings like that.
I think everyone is a mental case except you and me and I'm not sure about you.
,,,and that's why I live back in the woods.
"in the woods." Please, I beg you, do not hurt the trees.
http://heavy.com/news/2015/03/yvonne-selke-booz-hamilton-daughter-emily-...
It appears more than just mildly disturbing to me, how fast this "theorem" gets widely accepted as truth. Anyone still remembering 12/27 ?! Yeah, right, 162 people dead, and still we don't know what happened, although the flight-recorder was found in January ... but now, we, magically, know all we need to know, after not even a week has passed and only the voice-recorder has appeared, yet?! Yeah, shirley ....
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All we will ever know is what they decide to tell us. I didn't see any landing gear or large engine parts.
The landing gear are not made of space age composites, and usually they are lying out in the debris field.
Not to be too cold, but I didn't see any bodies, either. In the 1960's an airliner went down somewhere, there were bodies everywhere, even up in trees. Luggage, clothing, seats all these are usually seen in the crash photos. This crash looks like they dumped litter down the mountainside.
Depends on the velocity on impact. Controlled flight into terrain at top speed would basically flatten the plane and everything on it like a bug against a windshield. The luckier families will be able to bury a foot left in their loved one's shoe.
there is a link on Steve Quayle's site that states he was a recent convert to Islam.
However the link has been squashed.
Obama political correctness in action
Islam is not terrorism, so says Obama.
Oh, here it is now
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.1086/the-co-pilot-of-t...
The co-pilot of the Germanwings Airbus was a convert to Islam
According to Michael Mannheimer, a writer for German PI-News, Germany now has its own 9/11, thanks to the convert to Islam, Andreas Lubitz.
Translation from German:
All evidence indicates that the copilot of Airbus machine in his six-months break during his training as a pilot in Germanwings, converted to Islam and subsequently either by the order of "radical", ie. devout Muslims , or received the order from the book of terror, the Quran, on his own accord decided to carry out this mass murder. As a radical mosque in Bremen is in the center of the investigation, in which the convert was staying often, it can be assumed that he - as Mohammed Atta, in the attack against New York - received his instructions directly from the immediate vicinity of the mosque.
Converts are the most important weapon of Islam. Because their resume do not suggests that they often are particularly violent Muslims. Thus Germany now has its own 9/11, but in a reduced form. And so it is clear that Islam is a terrorist organization that are in accordance with §129a of the Criminal Code to prohibit it and to investigate its followers. But nothing will happen. One can bet that the apologists (media, politics, "Islamic Scholars") will agree to assign this an act of a "mentally unstable" man, and you can bet that now, once again the mantra of how supposedly peaceful Islam is will continue. And worse still, the attacks by the left against those who have always warned against Islam, will be angrier and merciless.
For now the German Islam supporters like never before have their backs against the wall.
Michael Mannheimer, 26.3.2015
"French Prime Minister Manuel Valls urged patience during the investigation but stated, 'everything points to a criminal, mad, suicidal action that we cannot comprehend.'"
So, Lubitz was a neocon?
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A forward-opening hinge door separates the cockpit from the passenger compartment. It has three electric locking strikes, controlled by the flight crew. In normal conditions, when the door is closed, they remain locked. When there is a request to enter the cockpit, the flight crew can authorize entry by unlocking the door, that remains closed until it is pushed open.
When the flight crew does not respond to requests for entry, the door can also be unlocked by the cabin crew, by entering a two to seven-digit code (programmed by the airline) on the keypad, installed on the lateral side of the Forward Attendant Panel (FAP).
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/03/27/350535/
good info on the door....
....so the if the cabin crew had the 'wrong' codes ?... that could explain it, but still leaves the posibility of airline involvement as only they would issue these codes.
If the airline is involved, it isn't a simple pilot suicide......
Or matey managed to block the door from the inside, and it is what it says on the tin. .... who knows ?
Apparently the door can be completely blocked from the inside. I guess in case a hijacker takes a crew hostage to extort the codes. Is a no go on the door or so they want the world to believe... don't bother trying?
visiting a psychiatrist ?
are you totally fucking mad ?
Nurse Rachet will conduct additional psychiatric tests. All subjects are restricted to quarters until further notice. This is for your own good. That is all.
Obviously man was not meant to fly, it was all too much for the poor lad. Ground all airbusses immediately, tear off the wings, and convert them into 1000mph tampons zooming through vacuum-loaded hyperloop tubes, no pilots no problems!
I've known 4 gay homos in my life. Everyone was insane and had a sick personality.
so are gay homos different than regualar homos?
Yes they are.
The definition of gay is someone or something bright or happy.
So either they are bright like the sun or just happy like a clown.
Plus
he was a Muslim convert doing Alah's work
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.1086/the-co-pilot-of-t...
Yes, this stinks of cover-up. None here know what happened to the Germanwings flight. Lufthansa will see to it we never do. (Damaged CVR? Do you know how much of a licking those can take?)
This we do know. The airline are not just trying to minimize their liability and make Lubitz and not themselves look like the bad guy. They also see an opportunity to fiddle Lubitz's family out of his pension and any extra money for wrongful death claims---which, if they can convince a jury that Lubitz flew an otherwise serviceable plane into a mountain, they have every right to do.
Airlines play this card all the time. They tried this stunt with Air New Zealand flight 901, for example.
All those rumours about Lubitz being a sekrit Muslin are just that, as far as anyone knows. I wouldn't be surprised if Lufthansa's PR department started them.
CEOs of Lufthansa. Germanwings should be first tested for mental fitness for holding their posts.
Yesterday they were lying about very high standards for Pilots in Germany.
CEO Spohr will be replaced within 6 months so he won't need to testify. Count on it.
To go along with the homosexual people I've known they were all on psychotropic drugs to treat their disturbed personalities.