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"Serious Depressive Episode" May Have Driven Germanwings Pilot To "Criminal, Mad, Suicidal" Action, Prosecutors Allege
Andreas Lubitz, the 28-year-old co-pilot who murder-suicided a plane full of 150 people into the Alps, had been judged to have suffered a "serious depressive episode" around the time he suspended his training in 2009, according to internal documents cited by Germany's Bild. As Reuters reports, Lubitz had broken off his training in 2009 and reportedly spent a year in psychiatric treatment but as the Lufthansa CEO noted, "After he was cleared again, he resumed training. He passed all the subsequent tests and checks with flying colors. His flying abilities were flawless." French Prime Minister Manuel Valls urged patience during the investigation but stated, "everything points to a criminal, mad, suicidal action that we cannot comprehend."
As The Wall Street Journal reports, the Germanwings co-pilot who appeared to intentionally crash an airliner into a French mountainside this week, killing himself and 149 passengers and crew, received a note from a doctor excusing him from work but apparently tore it up, a German prosecutor said Friday.
The prosecutor said evidence collected in a search of Andreas Lubitz’ Düsseldorf apartment on Thursday afternoon did not include a suicide note and gave no indication of a political or religious motive for his apparent decision to crash the plane.
“However documents were confiscated that contained medical information indicating an existing medical treatment,” the Düsseldorf prosecutor said in a statement.
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“Doctor’s notes that were found that were current and for the day of the incident support the assumption, based on a preliminary evaluation, that the deceased concealed his illness from his employer and work environment,” the prosecutor said in the statement.
Earlier, Germany’s Federal Aviation Office said that Mr. Lubitz had a medical condition noted in his pilot’s medical certificate, but the spokesman couldn’t say whether the record was related to his mental or physical health because the information was confidential.
And as Reuters adds, Lubitz broke off his training six years ago due to depression and spent over a year in psychiatric treatment, a German newspaper reported on Friday.
Lufthansa Chief Executive Carsten Spohr acknowledged at a news conference on Thursday that Lubitz had broken off his training in 2009 but did not explain why. He said there was nothing in the pilot's background to suggest he was a risk.
"After he was cleared again, he resumed training. He passed all the subsequent tests and checks with flying colors. His flying abilities were flawless," Spohr said.
But Bild, citing internal documents forwarded by Lufthansa's Aeromedical Center to German authorities, reported that Lubitz had suffered from depression and anxiety, and had been judged to have suffered a "serious depressive episode" around the time he suspended his training.
Lufthansa and German prosecutors declined to comment on the report, which is likely to raise questions about the airline's screening procedures for its pilots and, if confirmed, could expose it to substantial liabilities in the crash.
Friends are stunned....
“He was a quiet person…not someone who tried to be the center of attention,” the club’s Mr. Rücker said.
Jörg Kämpflein—a flight club board member who has been with the club since 1993—said he was “surprised, astonished” by the allegations surrounding Mr. Lubitz. These, he said, “in no way” fitted his personality. Klaus Radke, president of the club, said Mr. Lubitz had renewed his pilot’s license to fly alone when he last visited.
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Because nothing fixes despression and anxiety like smashing a plane into a mountain at 500mph.
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Why is it always a mental disorder? Maybe he's just a asshole scumbag camel lover.
Goofy fuckin' kraut.
I wonder if there will be any religious or racial profiling applied when screening future pilots? There might not be too many job opportunities in the future for Islamic pilots.
it alters the brain in a negative way i here.
no way jose i bet you still suffer you poor poor soul.
The two boys, members of the city’s ultra-Orthodox Jewish community, were circumcised in the Jewish ritual known as metzitzah b'peh, in which the practitioner, or mohel, places his mouth around the baby’s penis to “cleanse” the wound and suck away blood, Medical Daily reported.
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/04/08/two-infants-contract-herpes-fol...
European comission: Atypical Employment in Aviation. Final Report: https://www.eurocockpit.be/sites/default/files/report_atypical_employmen...
Should we insist politicians submit to psychological evaluation? Would that slow down their suicidal madness? :)
LCS? The Grove Guild? Andrew, is that you? lol
why the jewish and gay cover up on this fella
i mean we live in a soros transgender agenda world
elton john and david furnishings purchased kids for simple family and friend fun
why the cover ups be a proud jewisher i say do not hide granny ethnicks of tora talmoodicks
Suicidal episode just required the Captain to go to the toilet as they approached a mountain range............maybe the aircraft simply needed two pilots for when theair turns toxic
http://www.gcaqe.org/media.html
Have I missed something somewhere? Why did the captain find it necessary to leave the cockpit?
I think it high time, folks, to head on over to ___.VeteransToday.com for some sane, real-time forensic sleuthing!
Thanks for tip.
Interesting website.
It is tragic that so many died in the crash. It would have been more tragic if the plane had crashed into any of the densely populated cities and areas along the French Riviera. Almost convenient the plane came down at the mountain side instead of anywhere near a more populated area.
Did the alleged suicidal co-pilot actually care about where the plane would crash? Possibly trying to avoid more casualties? Was he aiming for the mountain side or was that just the logical place to crash this plane given the flight path and the descent?
Flight had reached cruising altitude somewhere in the middle of the Mediterranean. Captain leaves cockpit shortly after.
Co-pilot was taking his sweet time and not overriding controls to go down faster. 8 minutes sound like a pretty long time to go from 38,000 feet to barely 2,000 feet. Audio would have indicated some form of distress by all passengers if it had been uncomfortable to go down faster.
Maybe co-pilot didn't know how to override the system and to stir manually and down faster? His actions to bolt the cockpit door and to hit the descent button numerous times definitely suggest criminal intent.
The French authorities were 100% in panic mode when they knew a jet was on an unauthorized descent, non-communicative and heading straight for their coast line.
Maybe the French Riviera got really lucky. Imagine how much more damage this could have caused.
I will just leave these thoughts here. Everyone draw their own conclusions.
too much info missing to draw conclusions.
Have you got any idea where exactly the fighter jet(s) took off and at what time ?
"Maybe co-pilot didn't know how to override the system and to stir manually"
Is that not standard knowledge for co-pilotes ?
They say they could hear the co-pilote breathing on the recording. What was his respiratory rate and respiratory pattern ?
Fighter jets came from Orange. One of the earliest reports mentioned this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange-Caritat_Air_Base
There was an incident late last year on the exact same flight path.
LH1829 from Bilbao to Munich.
The plane's onboard computers malfunctioned and the plane started a tail spin pretty much in the same territory where U4 9525 ended crashing. Official explanation was that the sensors were frozen and fed wrong data to the computer.
Here is the kicker. If it hadn't been for a very knowledgeable senior pilot who knew how to shut down the system and fly the plane manually, the plane would have crashed.
Same plane. Same flight path? Co-pilot was too young to have known what to do. Cabin and cockpit audio could have very well been doctored.
Coincidence?
Here's something chilling. The news of this near catastrophe came out on March 20th. Der Spiegel broke the story. Every German news outlet picked it up and quoted as source "Spiegel". Was it a warning? U4 9525 crashed four days later on March 24th.
In reference to LH1829 it was initially reported that the two were unrelated and that Airbus had fixed the computer glitch and updated all board computers right after. It was expressively said that U4 9525 "Mannheim" had received this update. Therefore leaving us to conclude that the computer malfunction cannot be blamed.
Otherwise Airbus would be TOAST. Airbus is largely French. It happened in France, and all information and analysis is being released by French investigators. Not aviation experts.
Who owns Airbus?
thanks man, very interesting info. I looked for it on Spiegel website, but could only find it on http://www.stern.de/panorama/lufthansa-airbus-entgeht-nur-knapp-einer-ka... ( it is the same info ).
"Who owns airbus ?" Good question. Do not know who are the big shareholders. French and German state perhaps ?
Style is the answer to everything.
A fresh way to approach a dull or dangerous thing.
To do a dull thing with style is preferable to doing a dangerous thing without style.
To do a dangerous thing with style, is what I call art.
Bullfighting can be an art.
Boxing can be an art.
Loving can be an art.
Opening a can of sardines can be an art.
Not many have style.
Not many can keep style.
I have seen dogs with more style than men.
Although not many dogs have style.
Cats have it with abundance.
When Hemingway put his brains to the wall with a shotgun, that was style.
For sometimes people give you style.
Joan of Arc had style.
John the Baptist.
Jesus.
Socrates.
Caesar.
García Lorca.
I have met men in jail with style.
I have met more men in jail with style than men out of jail.
Style is a difference, a way of doing, a way of being done.
Six herons standing quietly in a pool of water, or you, walking out of the bathroom without seeing me.
- Charles Bukowski
Was this airplane crash a message to Germany, perhaps? To the EU? (And not from muslims of any kind, nor from Russia or China...)
LOL. i.e. it's from somewhere on the East Coast of the US.
This article is pure BS.
The fact that such a nonsensical BS "theory" appears shortly after the crash is in and of itself proof that somebody else was behind the accident.
Remember the "theory" that appeared hours after the Mh17 crash in Ukraine? The one that accused Russia and the rebels of shooting down the Malaysian airliner? We now know conclusively that it was shot down by Kiev at the urge of the US.
According to the CVR, the Captain said he was going to take a piss, and the copilot said ''Okay, I am going to nosedive the plane,'' Captain, said , ''Funny guy, hahah, and went to take a piss''
They should have had the remote control system on board like the 767/757 had on 911. Those aircraft were taken over from the ground.
Airbus has it. You think the French let thousands of planes go up and over their many nuclear reactors every year without an opportunity to avoid the planes crashing in there? The reason these systems are in place is to avoid a crash in hugely populated areas or crash into critical infrastructure.
It does have it, which is why the op worked so well, now all the media/political puppets need do is help spread this BS story and all the sheeple can go back to sleep once more.
If you look for evidence, you will most likely not find any. Interesting how things hitting at that speed usually leave a mark, but not so in this case. Hmmm.f
The data points are endless, which is a good reason for those other crew members at that company to not desire to fly again. Who knows when another op will target them, on purpose or 'accidentally'.
All tools have to be tested, don't they? Wh
All aircraft will now be retrofitted with Captain and FO seats having built in potty and urinal tube.
New Gen aircraft especially Airbus are so computerized its actually hard to hand fly,. When they punch in the flight plan into the flight director the pilots are just more or less monitoring the computer.
Leave it to the shit for brains Americunts to say this was the work of a Muslim, a Right Wing Republican, Dumb Germans (who invented the car) , or some deranged closet homo.
SSRI's http://www.naturalnews.com/049137_Germanwings_depression_antidepressant_...
"Because nothing fixes despression and anxiety like smashing a plane into a mountain at 500mph."
You guys misspelled depression.
When Sony makes the sequel, will Germany hack their servers and threaten them?
Pharmaceuticals are never questioned in cases like this and other massacres. Yet almost every new prescription drug has 'thoughts of suicide' listed as a side effect.
"His flying abilities were flawless," Spohr said."
His landing abilities left a little to be desired.
GERMANWINGS co-pilot Andreas Lubitz last year told his girlfriend he was planning an act so heinous the world would remember his name before he this week intentionally crashed Flight 9525 into the Alps, killing all 150 aboard.
In a stunning revelation in German media, Lubitz allegedly told his 26-year-old flight attendant girlfriend known as Maria W that he was worried his psychological issues would affect his dream of becoming a captain and flying long-haul flights.
The woman had been with him for a number of years but broke up recently.
Lubitz, it was revealed, had wanted to win her back and bought two Audis, one for him, the other for her, but then had just his delivered.
Andreas Lubitz’s chilling prophecyMaria W told Bild newspaper when she heard about the crash she recalled one of their last conversations.
“When I heard about the crash, there was just a tape playing in my head of what he said, ‘One day I will do something that will change the system and everyone will then know my name and remember me’,” she claimed he had told her.
“I did not know what he meant by that at the time, but now it’s clear.”
The black box voice recorder indicates that the Lubitz locked his captain out of the cockpit on Tuesday and flew the Germanwings aircraft into a mountain in a remote corner of the Alps killing 149 crew and passengers including two Australians.
According to Bild, the young woman, who was “very shocked”, flew with Lubitz on European flights for five months last year, but separated because she said it was increasingly clear “he had a problem”.
She said if he did intentionally crash the plane as claimed, “it is because he understood that because of his health problems, his big dream of a job at Lufthansa, as captain and as a long-haul pilot was practically impossible”.
She also said Lubitz would wake up from nightmares screaming, “We’re going down”.
Lubitz had sick note for crash dayThe claims come amid revelations from authorities the co-pilot had been in Dusseldorf University Hospital on March 10 and even had a sick note excusing him from work on the day he is suspected of having intentionally crashed the aircraft.
The German prosecutor’s office said his medical records seized showed he had an existing unnamed illness and was being treated by doctors. They found torn up sick notes at his apartment in Dusseldorf.
“The fact there are sick notes saying he was unable to work, among other things, that were found torn up, which were recent and even from the day of the crime, support the assumption based on the preliminary examination that the deceased hid his illness from his employer and his professional colleagues,” a spokesman for the prosecutors office said.
They have confirmed also his flying file at the Federal Aviation Office had a note which said he required “specific regular medical examination.”
No suicide note was found or anything that hinted what he was about to do or political or religious agenda.
Some of his friends have said he had suffered depression and had been in treatment with psychologists since 2009 for at least 18 months and was becoming increasingly withdrawn.
France’s Prime Minister Manuel Valls called on Lufthansa to provide all information they had on him.
German press has stated Lufthansa would have been well aware of Lubitz condition, his personnel file stating he suffered from “serious depressive episode” yet faced questions as to why they allowed him to continue flying.
Mr Valls said that Lufthansa should give the maximum of information “so that we can understand why this pilot got to the point of this horrific action” which he added that “everything is pointing towards an act that we can’t describe: criminal, crazy, suicidal”.
Others who knew Lubitz said he was “obsessed” by the Alps and knew the area of the crash well.
He was a gliding enthusiast and took part in at least one class organised by his local flying club in the French Alps’ province where he brought down the flight reported the International Business Times according to an article published in the Le Parisien newspaper.
A club member told the newspaper that during the class the 28-year-old flew over the mountains he later chose to die on.
Germanwings pulls ‘adventure’ adsGermanwings has pulled advertisements with the slogan “Get ready to be surprised” from London’s underground station after Tuesday’s deadly crash.
The posters featured a sultry-looking flight attendant with slogans like, “Enjoy the variety of Germany and fly to e.g. Berlin or Hamburg.”
A Transport for London spokesperson told Metro.co.uk the posters and digital ads were being removed.
“Our advertising department was contacted by the company and asked to remove the adverts on Tuesday,” the spokesperson said.
A Germanwings spokesperson said: “Germanwings has stopped any marketing activities in the UK until further notice and has removed posters and online campaigns. Our thoughts and prayers continue to be with the families and friends of the victims.”
Germany to hold memorial ceremonyMeanwhile, Germany will hold a national memorial ceremony and service for victims on April 17, regional authorities say.
The ceremony will be held at Cologne Cathedral in western Germany, a region from where many of the victims originated, and is due to be attended by German Chancellor Angela Merkel and President Joachim Gauck, a spokeswoman for the regional North Rhine-Westphalia government said.
Families and friends of the victims, as well as representatives from other countries affected by Tuesday’s air disaster are invited, she said, adding they also wanted to enable anyone wishing to express their condolences to take part.
Gauck attended a memorial service Friday for 16 pupils and two teachers from a school in the western town of Haltern, who had been flying back from an exchange trip in Spain.
Half of the 150 people on the ill-fated flight from Barcelona to Dusseldorf were German, with Spain accounting for at least 50 and the remainder composed of more than a dozen other nationalities.
http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/co-pilot-andreas-lubitzs-ex...