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Turkey Devolves Into A Full Police State: Law Grants Unlimited Powers To Weaponized Police Force
While a source of much schadenfreude by its neighbors and casual onlookers, Turkey has become a glaring example of what happens to a formerly respectable nation as it devolves entirely into a banana republic with not only authoritarian overtones but a police state to boot. And earlier today, Turkey's conversion to a full blown police state was complete when, after weeks of heated debates and brawls in parliament, Turkey’s government passed a security package expanding police powers, along with an online surveillance law and a discretionary fund for President Recep Tayyip Erdogan to fund covert operations.
In other words, president Erdogan has just voted himself quasi-dictatorial powers with a private police force to defend him.
As Bloomberg details, the parliament voted to approve security laws that allow police to conduct searches and arrests without immediate court orders and use firearms against militants. The law separately empowered government-appointed governors to order police or paramilitary forces to conduct searches and detain suspects for up to 48 hours without immediate court orders, state-run Anadolu Agency said.
Furthermore, protesters are banned from carrying fire crackers, firebombs, iron pellets and slingshots, along with covering faces during demonstrations.
Taking a cue from the US, whose NSA continues to enjoy 4th amendment-busting privileges despite all the Snowden revelations, Turkey's online surveillance law will allow police to keep wiretapping or monitoring online activities of suspects without court orders for 48 hours. At least in Turkey it's legally mandated: in the US at last check it was still unconstitutional.
Bloomberg further reports that Turkey’s main opposition Republican People’s Party, or CHP, vowed to seek cancellation of the law by the country’s constitutional court before June 7 parliamentary elections, Anadolu reported. Good luck with that.
CHP and another opposition party, the Nationalist Movement Party, or MHP, also criticized the surveillance law and a special fund for spending by Erdogan on state affairs, including covert operations “related to the state’s national security and interests,” Anadolu said today.
Meanwhile, Erdogan continues to push for an authoritarian state in which the power of the people has been voided, and only his decisions matter, and is seeking to replace the parliamentary system with a presidential one that expands his powers at the expense of Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu’s government. Davutoglu, Erdogan’s hand-picked successor as prime minister and leader of the ruling AK Party, has not clarified his views on a transition to a presidential system.
Again: none of this is unique, and is merely indicative of the various "evolutionary" stages of a small banana republic as its grows into a full-blown banana plantation. And as the much needed money runs out to keep any democracy afloat (see Greece) what happens in Turkey today, will happen in a country near you tomorrow or in the immediate future.
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Score another for the religious fucktards who are his voter base.
Turkish Neocons
I'll take what was the first world leader Obama called after taking the Presidency for a thousand Alex.
Spreading to a NATO country near you.
Was at a party Saturday night and was talking to a guy about the proposed ban on steel penetrator ammo and I said it really didn't make much of a difference as lead core .223 will go right through body armor anyway. He said he wasn’t worried about having that ability because anybody wearing body armor would be a “good guy”. dipshit
if you squint your eyes that turkish guy looks like Frank Underwood from house of cards.
If you squint your eyes you look like Kim Jong-un
I guess the Turks finally got around to passing the Patriot act.
Take one more step and i'll rob this dime bank.
Remember the nat gas pipeline being built for Russia, for which Turkey gets a nice 10.25% discount on its own gaz purchases, and the construction of new nuclear power stations in Turkey by Russians, and many other deals signed in December 2014.
Remember Erdogan boldly declared the Charlie Hebdo incident to be a false flag.
The new law approved by the democratically elected Turkish parliamentarians may seem draconian, and maybe it is, but how else is a sovereign nation supposed to defend itself against the now predictable internal coup attempts by Washington's agents.
Who would'a thought it was gonna start in Turkey??
Nice placement!!
this turkey is dark meat, correct?
if so that allows us to bomb the shit out of them if we fell they need a little democracy, correct?
Have you been to a Turkish prison?
Score another one for the "religion of peace".
All that NATO training put to good use.
If you squint your eyes , too late, you been kinda ass fucked too hard.
When I squint my eye I pinch a loaf.
Oatmeal.
A big bowl of oatmeal takes the squints out.
Pro Tip: Wear running shoes.
religion, the root of all evil by humans, believe what i believe or i kill you, basically full hypocritic humans that break their own god based rules and use some lame jesus excuse to justify their own weakness. nice plan bro...
Communism/socialism and it's derivations have murdered hundreds of millions of human beings in the name of - NO religion (religion being illegal) - worshiping the state.
The only religion that is murdering others for fun is Islam. Islam is a totalitarian death cult.
Your ignorance is stunning.
Which 'chosen' group founded communism, again?
If man had not invented religion on the third planet, the homo sapien morons might have been able to figure out how to live together in peace.
Religion and politics both based on trust, faith, moral dictates, using threats of punishment, exclusion, retribution. No difference, that I can see, between them.
That you do not understand the major religions is no excuse. Please read up some then get back to me on the differences.
And how many has greed killed Mr. Wizard?
You shoud pose that question to the people who brought you the 'kosher tax' on most of the items you buy in the grocery store.
Greed never killed anybody ---- maybe you mean greedy persons driven to murder by their greed??? Kind of like persons in positions of absolute power--say gov't dudes---
"Which 'chosen' group founded communism, again?"
Excellent question.
Communism was an economic-political philosophy founded by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. Neither of which believed in any religion. Marx, in his doctoral thesis, set out to show that theology must yield to the "superior" wisdom of philosophy.
Atheism was the official doctrine of the Soviet Union under the ideology of Marxism-Leninism. Between 12 and 20 million Christians were murdered by the "superior wisdom" of the atheist state, simply because they believed in a higher power other than human, communist, leaders.
So, the "chosen" group who founded communism were atheists. Like many on ZH - they believed that human beings who did not worship the state should be extinguished. Then they followed through with the slaughtering of non-state-worshipers - to be praised by many to this very day for doing so.
It was'nt the jewish Bolsheviks? They may have been atheistic (or Kabbalists) but they were still jewish.
He is a typical obamatron assclown progressive drone. Another one who does not realize "The stupid, it burns"
Grimaldus
Not sure if ignorant or deliberately stupid...
The biggest problem with firing on a guy wearing body armor is that he often has a lot of friends with him, and those friends will send back .223s at full auto, along with tear gas, grenades, and 50 caliber slugs.
Of course, when the time comes, you will need to shoot through body armor being worn by a few dudes in the roaming gangs. But they will learn quickly enough about the limitations of body armor.
Shoot em in the balls.
That'll ruin their day.
Dipshit is an under statement. He's going to love his re-education.
Ahhhh... Dear Leader Obama's utopia. Dear Leader is getting close but he still has some more Hope-n-Change to implement.
Forward.
Actually Bill more like "Turkish Progressives". Edrogan is an Islamist. Progressives and Islamists are fellow travelers in tyranny, both worship a corrupt, all controlling criminal state. Neocons are idiots duped by progressives to follow the progressive "fundamental transformation" path to moar big government tyranny.
Grimaldus
"Hands up, please shoot."
The difference between Turkey and the USA seems to be that the Americans hire much better propaganda ministers -
(mainstream media & 'schooling' system)
Score another "win"for Obama's foreign policy spreading hope and change around the world.
Imagine the world on fire (INFERNO!!!) if Hillary(!), who brokered these situations, became president. A bunch of incompetent, dangerous, narcissists with no knowledge of human nature.
?imdi bok oldu
This is just a precurser of things to come here in the USSA...
Precursor? Its already here.
If you're in Texas or Utah.....you are the resistance.
If you're in Texas or Utah.....you are the resistance.
Apparently the U.S. Army Special Operations Command believes this because they are scheduled to start military exercises in Texas and Utah this summer...We are well on our way to becoming a police state...
U.S. Army Special Operations Command is pushing back against alarmist claims that an upcoming U.S. military exercise is a preparation for imposing martial law or subduing right-leaning groups and individuals. Army Lt. Col. Mark Lastoria, a USASOC spokesman, confirmed that there is an upcoming exercise called Jade Helm 15 which is scheduled to take place this summer at locations in Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Colorado, California and Nevada.
http://www.stripes.com/news/us/army-special-operations-command-pushes-back-against-alarmist-claims-about-upcoming-exercise-1.335949
Less than 20% of congress are military veterans. A rather small % of US citizens have served in the military. Of those in the military, less than 10% are in combat roles, 90% is various support activities from hospitals to base grocery stores. The ratio of 'tail to fang' is rather heavily weighted. - Today, in the post draft, all volunteer times - most Americans get their viewpoint of the military from t.v. and Hollywood. They haven't experienced the inefficiency, careerism, waste, and institutional stupidity of the military for themselves. Many think everyone wearing a uniform is a 'hero', while that person they see may actually have the job of running a base bar/restaurant stateside (NCO club). - - The US military has not fought against a major power on an extended basis since WW2. Despite this, they have not won a long term strategic victory while taking on various poor rivals since WW2. Many weapons systems are overly complex, vulnerable to breakdown. They may be pushed despite the objections of the military. Contractors make a lot of money and they bring jobs to congressman's districts. - The US officer corps is in a 'bubble' - despite the evidence they also believe themselves "the most powerful military in the world". Many good officers have been purged from the armed services.
Bottom line - don't blindly accept all the hype. It's designed to make you see them as supermen 'heroes' (rather than just human beings ) and scare you. It's also designed to divide you from your fellow Americans who happen to be wearing uniforms.
If they couldn't control much smaller Vietnam, Iraq, or Afghanistan . . .
Doesn't it seem that a lot in this society is based on some type of con game?
I agree that we are already well along the path...Although not quite full blown yet...we are gettin there...
Oh, they finally translated the patriot act into Turkish?
oh man, protesters can't carry firebombs? wtf is this world coming to?
or slingshots, or fire crackers, or cover their face
"to conduct searches and detain suspects for up to 48 hours without immediate court orders"
The U-S is way ahead on this already.
How long until we indict the Guantamo inmates with a charge?
Thank goodness for the NDAA.....huh bitchez?
The head of the new caliphate
Can't Turkey be more original? Washington will sue them for copyright infringement...
I like my Turkey fried in Greece
"Formerly respectable" .... as when they killed 1.8 million Armenian Christians .... I went to a Banana Republic Revolution .... and a respectable Turkey Nation broke out ?
Turkey was a good country before the islamists took over the government, now it is just another islamic-cult-worshiping dogma-serving despotic dictatorship.
wow, I think I just upvoted you......
I used to go to Turkey for business and enjoyed the country and people so much that I would always include days before and after my business to travel in the country where tourists were never seen. It was the ONLY islamic country where I felt safe not being a follower, especially after having been attacked on sight in other islamic countries, and the Turkish people were exceptionally hospitable, helpful and friendly. In those years I NEVER heard or saw ANY sign of the islamic fanatical insanity that is now pervasive and gushing from the top levels of government. Turkey's having succumbed to the islamic disease is a great sad loss.
@Prober - very interesting. I haven't travelled to that region, so it's interesting to hear your experiences.
From my limited research I've come across evidence of the British encouraging and supporting various fundamentalist Islamic groups since the time of the Empire as part of their Great Game. It was the use of the Divide & Conquer strategy.
Have you looked into this ? If so, did it play a role in Turkey, which was always considered fairly secular in rulership . Thanks
I never saw any vestige of British influence in Turkey. From the time of the Ottomans the Brits & Turks were competitors, and during WW1 the Brits were especially hated for trying to invade Turkey at Galipoli, where the ANZACs were slaughtered, and for playing a major role in depriving the Ottomans of their middle-eastern empire, eg Lawrence of Arabia, so I doubt that the Turks would have tolerated ANY kind of Brit influence inside Turkey.
Turkey has GREAT food, the prices for everything were low when I was going there, and it was a very good place to buy leather goods, any kind of silk carpets, wide variety of wooden products - excellent craftsmanship. The Agean beaches were just as good as in Greece but much less crowded and lower cost, and there are ABUNDANT archeological sites in Turkey.
As I said, Turkey WAS a fabulous place to enjoy leisure time :-(( - I would not go to ANY islamic country now.
I spent time in Izmir back when Istanbul was still Constantinople on most maps-- The bazzars were great --I loved the place-- There were a lot of mosks with minarets that had the call to prayer sung from--- will never forget the echoes from the hills--
Christianity will be outlawed in Turkey within 5 years.
That would be a good way to start a regional war.
Because the US is different.
That's what I like about these Turks...no beating around the bush, no "secret FISA court" show for the kiddies, just a "good ole fascist" crackdown.
Erdogan only counts for vize-villain because Putin is the Number One.
Turkey as i know is a good country with free citizens.
See this law as preemptive against colour revolutions and Istanbul Maidan.
Actually, Turkey is in far better shape than Greece economically. I trust Erdo?an wants it to stay that way.
To do that, bankster-financed Maidan movements need to be aborted as early in gestation as possible. That won't always be a pretty sight.
I've learned that if Bloomberg are spitting bullets about a local leader being a tyrant---Bibi, Erdo?an, Putin---he must be doing something right by his people. Often that's taking the threats posed by fifth columns seriously.
neither you, nor those who voted you up have no clue about what a psychopath Erdogan is. So stop portraying him as a developing country leader against bankers, that has nothing to do with the reality. He's sold the country to the bankers and oligarchs through privatization, and has jailed judges/policemen trying to uncover his corruption. Listen to the secret recording tapes on youtube if you love him so much.
This motherfucker has destroyed my country in 12 years, and around 50% of the country would not even blink their eyes once as they strangle him to death if they have the chance. The other 50% is the Sunni sheeple, who will ask you to do it again if you rape them in the ass.
No he hasn't. Stop acting like a child.
The sooner the spoiled Istanbul brats who still think being part of the Fourth Reich was ever in the interest of any Turk who has to actually get up and go to an honest job in the morning pack their bags and go, the sooner Turkey will be free to find her own path.
Please. Go live in Germany a while, drive a cab, work in a kebab shop or as a janitor somewhere, because no German in his right mind will hire you for any work not involving wearing a name tag. Feel free to be treated like shit all day, every day, by rich Germans who think they're doing you a favour putting up with you. See how wonderful the Fourth Reich is in real life. Let us know how it goes and how long you last. I'm sure you can easily get directions to the airport. You wouldn't be the first Turk who thought Berlin's streets were paved with gold and wound up shovelling shit instead.
Your loss will be Turkey's gain.
Look who is trying to teach me my country. Keep your recommendations to yourself idiot fuck, I live in UK anyway because of these fucking Muslims
Their our allies so its okay. Only governments that dont want to be central bank slaves, I mean we don't like, I meant to say won't be part of the petro dollar scheme. Dammit, have nuclear weapons. Yes thats it...wait...ah forget it.
Do we call the country Turkey after the bird? What is that about.
It happened to Jews, Blacks, Jehovah's Witnesses and political dissidents in the 30's when Adolf too over. Stalin did a good job of coercing and murdering.
Saudi Arabia has religious police, run by old kings and princes, makes females lesser than and they are a US ally.
Methinks the USA is the biggest force for anti democracy in the world, if they do not like an elected leader somewhere, they will sanction, drone and bomb till they get who they want, even if the locals have a majority will against it.
I have seen liberty go down the tube and taxpayer without representation hit home since Bush and Obama stamped their seal of approval on dictatorship.
The world may be a little better off if they got rid of DC and replaced it with a government that respected the Constitution. But they like power too much.
Poor gringos, being led by the nose.....
cherry picker - "poor gringos, led by the nose"
Unfortunately this doesn't restrict itself to one group of people. The Latin American world was dominated by Spain for centuries. Many of them are like beaten down dogs. And the Church has been very effective teaching people that it'll all be better in the next life . . and to turn the other cheek.
Simdi bok oldu...
And they have nuke's...............
Technically yes, but they're Anerican nukes. The host states cannot arm the bombs without authorization codes from the US (which is not very comforting)
Stuxnet says what?
Make that "Islamic police state." And therein lies the problem.
That is precisely what is happening. Creeping theocracy.
Joey, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?
Do you like it when your dog rubs up and down on your leg?
Why would the people stand for this? just kill every single one of them...problem solved.
And there goes Ataturk's dream
Ataturk was a western pussy.
Just ask any ANZAC!
Erdogan's clearly in the crosshairs of another "Color Revolution," particularly after his gas pipeline deal with Putin. He's also balked at allowing the US to use Turkey as a military depot. He's always been unreliable, and his connections to the Islamists are certainly concerning.
Turkey definitely sees itself as the rightful leader of the Middle East. NATO membership or not, that isn't going to be permitted, unless Turkey is run by an abject puppet. Erdogan isn't that. I don't think I'd want to live in a country run by him and his ilk, but what seems to be shaping up for Turkey is pretty ugly. Between the Kurds in the east, the Sunni extremist monsters to the south, and Russia to the north, that's turning into a mighty rough neighborhood. And Erdogan doing the deal with Putin probably sealed it.
As usual, the US Brzezinski-Wolfowitz doctrine doesn't care what happens, as long as civil society is destroyed and chaotic violence breaks out. That way nobody can accomplish anything without the ability to project massive military power globally. There's only one nation that can do that. So the old question, "Cui bono?" yields familiar answers.
"As usual, the US Brzezinski-Wolfowitz doctrine doesn't care what happens, as long as civil society is destroyed and chaotic violence breaks out."
@swmnguy
Should that be the Obama, Clinton, Kerry Progressive Criminal Tyranny Doctrine?
Grimaldus
@swmnguy - good summary.
I think a lot of people make the mistake of trying to paint some of these people as a 'good guy'. It's probably more useful to see them as All being power mad meglo-maniacs and even psycho paths. They run their own particular mafias and are likely competing against each other. As psychopaths, they cannot really trust one another.
So the question comes down to "Which one of these mafias can cause me the most harm now ?" And that is likely to be the one in charge where you live.
Some see opinions against the U.S. neocon gang, to be pro Russia and China. Those places have their own megalomaniacs, but they're not here in America robbing us and stripping away what freedom is left, now. - As psychopaths they probably would do this if they could. No 'good guys' out there.
Not one comment about President Recep Tayyip Erdogan anti-Isreal stance on here?
Another spice to toss into the soup. You're right.
Ok, here you go.
The one positive element in President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's government is it's anti-Israel stance.
Any anti Israel stance is for the local plebes. No US/ZATO puppet can have a sincere anti-Israel leaning.
It figures that Obama and of all the worlds leaders is closest to the Turkish leader Erdogan. These next two years are going to be very interesting to say the least in the United States.
Got a blind date with a Turkish lady tonight, think I will leave this out of the convo
So Turkey is turning back to its roots, turning their attention east, and saying goodbye to western values like democracy and civil liberty as well.
personal feelings about the state of the country aside... on a geopolitical level, doesn't this smell like a rat jumping off the western ship?
Turkey stradde the east/west crossroad, and have been trying their best to westernize up till recent times, now they are doing an about turn and de-westernizing
They are de-US-ing.
Wherever Muslims are the majority, there can be nothing but oppression. The Turks enjoyed their freedom from oppressive and sadistic Sunni islam with the laws to restrain Muslim resurgence put forward by an atheist, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk. However, the muslim disease have finally won in Turkey after almost 100 years.
coming soon to a city near you......
Erdogan the Magnificent.
Does he want to be worshiped as a god too?
Don't have an issue with that as long as he gets sacrificed if things don't work out (hint: they won't)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZeWjYx5MhQ
Outside of Constantinople, Turkey goes from a modern, secular, quasi western state to a Turkish bible belt of sorts.
But its coming to the US eventually. perhaps after a US and/or Israeli atrocity blamed on iran or russia or 'the palestinians' a la who was blamed by those Israelis caught with explosives on 9/11...
Neocons are everywhere but my patch of woods. The word of the day is, lowprofile.
Oh boy we get to watch to see how Master Dude's head gets whacked.
Coming soon to your neighborhood!!
With the permission and encouragement of the U.S. Gov't.
Turkey is no banana republic. It has a strong economy based on a combination of efficient agriculture and an expanding hi-tech sector. Erdogan is just one more regional strong man of the sort that attracts lots of admiration - think Saddam H. Turkey also has a well educated and fairly young population who are not about to buy into a repressive Islam any time soon. If they have strong religious beliefs, they revolve around football. Erdogan's strength is his links to the military and together they're pretty hot on having a sense of order. Turkey also has a system of military conscription and training which has resulted in a pretty orderly state of affairs. As with many other states in the region it's the rural population that are Erdogan's electoral poweer base and it's to them that Erdogan nods with his harking back to a state underpinned by religious principles. Yes there is a fair amount of corruption, but no more than one finds in Washington or London. Turkey is the most stable state in the region and any attempts at say, Kiev Mk II, would result in profound embarassment, not to say cases of sudden death, for Washington.
Something to make you go hmmmm. And power outages???
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/03/israel-turkey-erdogan-silent-netanyahu-election-campaign.html