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Greek Energy Minister Slams "Unscrupulous, Imperialist" Germany, Will Seek "Bold Alternatives" In Russia
With fresh rumors springing late on Friday that "this" just may be the weekend Greece - with close to no funds left in either the financial or government sector - imposes capital controls, a precursor to a full-fledged Grexit, the situation in Athens is on a knife's edge. Yesterday is also when the Syriza government submitted its list of 18 proposed reforms to the Troika: a reform package which the Guardian dubs "reform-for-cash", as Greece hopes the roughly €3 billion in revenue generated from the reforms will unlock €7.2 billion in financial assistance.
Rather, make that promises of reforms to generate €3 billion in revenue. Because the question, and problem for Athens, is which comes first: does Greece implement the reforms and generate the revenue or does Europe disburse the funds. It is a problem because the reforms will be extremely unpopular if and when they pass. According to Bloomberg, which sources Greek Skai TV, among the proposed reforms is an increase on the duty paid on cigarettes and alcohol. Other proposals include:
- Lift sales tax on certain items while keeping a low rate for food products
- Combat tax evasion including fines for non-payment of tax or failing to declare income; combat black market trade of fuel
- Intensive controls of the names in Lagarde-List (more than 2,000 name suspect of tax evasion) and money transfers abroad.
- Online system connecting companies to tax offices, and electronic system for the payment of Value Added Tax
- Freeze early pensions, consolidate social security funds, create a national wealth fund
- Continue with certain privatizations
- Encourage issuance of retail sales receipts including linking collection to participation in a lottery
- Overhaul tax process for games of chance, real estate and heating oil
- Issue licenses for media companies
The 18 proposals, three times as many as put forward and dismissed by prime minister Alexis Tsipras’s government last month, anticipate GDP growth of 1.4% this year: about 1% less than where the most optimistic analysts see the US growing. The package also endorsed finance minister Yanis Varoufakis’s argument that the primary surplus demanded of Greece would have to be reduced. As such, the primary surplus was estimated to hit 1.5% in 2015 – half that in the country’s existing bailout programme. Unfortunately for Greece, considering the collapse in tax collections in recent months, Athens can kiss any hope of a positive primary surplus goodbye.
Since all of these proposals, if implemented, will lead to increased tax revenues and thus a decrease in the already low quality of Greek life, whether for everyone or just the 1%, they will be met with stern opposition, especially since they will be seen as going against Syriza's original radical pre-electoral agenda. Which is also why as the Guardian reported, "the country’s international economic affairs minister, Euclid Tsakalotos, raised the stakes, saying while Greece wanted an agreement it was prepared to go its own way “in the event of a bad scenario... We are working in the spirit of compromise, we want a solution, but if things don’t go well you have to bear the bad scenario in mind as well. That is the nature of negotiations.”
Once again Greece is unable to determine when it has lost the negotiations, and while giving with one hand, it tries to take with the other. And this is the biggest problem, because for Europe while the amount of the money transfer is modest, what it wants more than anything is to see the "radical" spirit of the Syriza government crushed.The problem for Greece is that this is not happening, especially with statements such as this:
“The government is not going to continue servicing public debt with its own funds if lenders do not immediately proceed with the disbursement of funds which have been put on hold since 2014," said government aides. “The country has not taken receipt of an aid instalment from the EU or IMF since August 2014 even though it has habitually fulfilled its obligations.”
Then there was the prime minister himself, who said in an interview with Real News that Greece won’t agree to any wage or pension cuts nor allow mass redundancies. Again: the issue is that the Troika, or whatever it is called, wants precisely this: they want real reforms, by which they mean that Greece finally has to implement some/any of the long ago promised and never delivered redundancies in the government sector.
What is surprising is just how naive Tsipras now appears with his continued populist rhetoric even after it has been revealed that he has no more leverage, with the threat of Grexit taken off the table. Some of his other soundbites:
- An agreement in June with Greece’s creditors will only concern changing debt repayment terms and debt relief measures
- Democratic Europe won’t choose a rupture regarding Greece
- One of government's priorities is beginning and completing tender for broadcasting licenses
- Won’t tolerate officials who put personal political interests above those of govt and Syriza party
And then there is the Greek energy minister, Panagiotis Lafazanis, who said in an interview with Kefalaio newspaper that the "only way for Greece to exit its crisis is through tough confrontation, if not conflict, with "German Europe."
Making sure the ongoing negotiations between (almost completely broke) Greece and the Troika take 1.4% steps forward and ten steps back, the energy minister said the Greek reform list can’t be opposed to Syriza’s radical program or be above popular will, sovereignty. As noted above, this is precisely what it would take for the Troika to release the funds.
Reuters confirmed as much earlier when it eported that as Athens battles to have a list of reforms accepted by its EU partners in order to secure much-needed funds to stave off bankruptcy, Lafazanis criticized Berlin and said the government must not roll back on its commitments.
"No list should go over the will and sovereignty of the people," he told Kefalaio newspaper in an interview on Saturday. "The Germanized European Union is literally choking our country and tightening week by week the noose around the economy," he said.
Virtually assuring Germany's fure, Lafazanis said that "if the government suspends pre-election promises, Greece will be driven over cliff’s edge" adding that "privatizations, especially in strategic areas, can’t and won’t happen." Alas, the Troika said it will, and the Troika writes the checks, so...
The punchline: "Greece is at more than breaking point; urgently needs big, bold alternatives to “German, incumbent Europe"and that "creditors behaving as unscrupulous imperialists towards distant colony, threatening submission or economic suffocation."
More importantly, Lafazanis has some ideas where to find said "big, bold alternatives." In Moscow.
Greece's Energy Minister Panagiotis Lafazanis will meet his Russian counterpart and the CEO of energy giant Gazprom in Moscow on Monday, as he hit out at the EU and Germany for tightening a 'noose' around the Greek economy.
Outspoken Lafazanis, on the left wing of Greece's co-ruling Syriza party, will meet Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak and Gazprom Chief Executive Alexei Miller as well as other senior government officials, the energy ministry said on Saturday.
Lafazanis' visit will come just over a week before Tsipras is due to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow although the Greek government has stressed it is not seeking funding from the Kremlin.
It is not seeking funding form the Kremlin yet. Because once the first week of April comes and goes and Greece officially runs out of money, it will go to anyone who can provide it with the funds needed to avoid civil war, even if that means switching its allegiance from Europe to the Eurasian Economic Union, something Russia is eagerly looking forward to, and something we predicted would be the endgame months ago.
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Go 4 it!... Sick Vlad on 'em ~ lol
The MSM has been demonizing Putin extensively of late that any attempt to align with Russia will be met with political blowback. I'm not saying it's the wrong strategy, just that there are costs associated with such a move. Conversely, pain of staying with the Euro are much more catastrophic for Greece.
Could Greece and Russia Crush the European Union?
They are just posturing. They are big pussies. They will cave. Greece knows it is better to go with the devil you know then the devil you don't.
The devil they know IS the Devil.
Even Stalin would look like an attractive alternative.
hmm.. Cheap energy and a revitalized economy from Russia, or more economic slavery and unpayable debts from Germany via Goldman.
Pretty obvious, but TPTB will do everything possible to confuse and force the issue.
Quelle surprise. And what did, pray tell, the EU expect to happen? Skullfuck me once and shame on me, skullfuck me twice and shame on you
and if you know what's good for you
Do you believe that the words from the energy minister are spoken because of enlightenment, or because they deem opportunistic?
I tell you: if the money would still flow to Greece, he would not at all feel uncomfortable about being debt slaves!
Did they feel bad, because they used Goldman Sachs to fake their statistics and get entry to the Euro? A currency that was way to hard for their low productivity?
What we are witnessing is just the lamenting of stupid debt slaves, that feel perfectly fine, as long as they can make new debt and then blame everyone else, when the creditors do no longer believe, that their debt slaves will be able to pay the interest.
I don't want to defend the system of debt slavery by this. I just want to point out, that opportunistic politicians who do not raise questions about the SYSTEM cannot bring the solution. Only politicians who speek the truth to the stupid masses: either you want to be free, then we will have to pay a price for it and may not choose the easy way, or you decide for the easy way. Then you have not deserved souvereignity and freedom.
unless
you fancy mulatto girly men
60 million dead russians would strongly disagree.
The Greeks do make a mean Trojan Horse. Just what the Russians need to take down the EU Troy'ka'
NEW MEMBER :-
Russia to apply for China-led infrastructure bank AIIB
http://rt.com/business/244805-russia-join-aiib-china/
The Greeks are talking about:
You all are going to take it up the ass!
We will not pay, fuck you!
hehe.
Read my blah blah blah blah blog,
Everyone with an IQ above 10 knew that a strong DMark-like currency (Euro) would kill the smaller and poorer countries. They thought it would drag these countries up and help Germany have a bigger market to sell stuff.
The problem is the whole thing is corrupt along with the elites, banksters, politicians.
Greece only hope is to leave but it is a disfunctional society.
they tried the same strategy years ago in baltimore (mto=move to oppurtunity)...were they took the animals, i mean the unfortunates out of baltimore city out to baltimore cnty, figuring they would learn how to live a more responsible lifestyle....hard to believe it didnt work than either....same thing
Tsapass, ViralFukus, amd Syriza should join with Puutie.
Puutie can show them how to make all the problems go away.
Start whacking journalists and opposition leaders.
Then the same old socialist strategy will be evident.
One vote, one time.
Perhaps Puutie can also show them to make you go away.
Costs, and risks.
For one thing, we don't know how close the Empire is to being able to pull off a "color revolution" in Greece.
For another, we don't know where the loyalty of the Greek armed forces lies. Armed forces which trace their history back to the forces that collaborated with Hitler in the '40's, helped Britain reimpose a pro-Hitler king, overthrew an elected government in the '60's and ruled by naked force.
We can assume, based on what we know about how the Empire operates, that the officer corps is riddled with those on the pay of the Empire. Beyond that, I'm not aware of any facts, although it is a safe guess that there must be many patriots and honorable professionals in the ranks. Sariza most likely knows more and is factoring this into their strategy.
This is a high-stakes game, and I expect everyone in Greece knows that.
Why would Russia want them? They've always been a money loser.
http://redefininggod.com/2015/02/globalist-agenda-watch-2015-update-19a-...
ports & bases bitch...
the imf is waiting like a black hole.
RE: Ports and bases
In most countries when you purchase land you receive a land title or title deed - an official record of who owns a piece of land. Since 1945 the land title for Germany has been locked in a vault at the US state department Washington. The same is true for Greece. During the civil war (1946-49), and with the communists (supported by Tito) gaining the upper hand, the Greek ruling elite in Athens were faced with a major dilemma; lose everything or call in outside help. The communists were uncompromising - 100% redistribution of wealth from the bourgeoisie to the workers/peasants. They were facing complete ruin and exile. As they saw it they had no other option but to sign their country over to the American empire. Today Greece is in the same boat as Germany and has about as many NATO (US hegemony/domination) installations.
It's very easy for a country to fall into empire and very hard to get out. The US knows that if the Syriza marxists pull the trigger and default, economic collapse and turmoil will ensue providing a legitimate excuse for the Greek military to step in and cease power. Also, understand that there's a difference between the governing elite that control government and the ruling elite that control the country's productive industries; often the same but not always.
Don't be fucking stupid about 'treaties' & 'legal' bullshit...
When TSHTS [which is often much AFTER 'secret' negotiations have been formulated & acted upon]... All that bullshit dissolves in a nanosecond...
Next thing you know you're gonna be telling me that Corzine should be in jail... Which is TRUE... But which is EXACTLY my point...
Italy partially funded the new Russian natgas pipelines, and over the last decade has perfected state-of-the-art natgas distribution.
Expect the big deals to be:
1. natgas pipelines through Greece to ports and underwater to Italy.
2. liquid natgas refineries in Greece, tied with the ports.
These are "permanent" long-term committments that can not be easily 'undone' once built and running in a few years.
Greece becomes Moscow's slave vs. German.
As fiat collapses many will scramble to find similar "sugar daddy's", many corrupt yet new relationships.
Corrupt long-term arrangements will be popular.
A major issue preventing above requires Turkey to reliably supply natty to Greece, so Turkey needs to have similar Russian intentions...will that happen ?
Will Greece ever trust Turkey ? or will Russia lord over both to 'make the deal' ?
Possible. Who would ever have thought the Germans and French can ride in the same tank. Lots of ancient history to overcome.
It would be a relatively cheap way to fight back against the Euro/USSA bankster's economic attacks on Russia.
For Russia, yes.
Greece has warm pretty beaches with babes. You ever been to Russia? It be a nice playground for Putin. Think about the irony too: The birth place of democracy, be a Russian ally
Did you ever have a closer look at Greek "babes"? (And i don´t even talk about their mothers over 35).
The "babes" on the beaches are from all over the world. Maybe you weren't aware of it but a lot of tourists go to the Greek islands.
Who said you had to marry them? And who in their right mind would fuck anything over 35?
Your daddy.
"Who said you had to marry them? And who in their right mind would fuck anything over 35?"
I hope for your sake your hand is younger than that.
... Since normally, the kind of dude who speaks like you do ends up married to it.
"democracy" brought the Greek politicians who created the cesspool Greece now rots in
AND the Clintons, GW Bush, the obomination, etc, etc
What is so fucking wonderful about "democracy" ??????
you have to ask
When you can get practically everybody as to believe in something that doesn't exist, that's pretty wonderful.
It took 2000 years to get everybody to believe in the "man in the sky."
And less than 300 for everybody to believe that one's vote counts in a democracy.
In ancient Greece, anyone proposing a new law had to do it on a platform with a noose around his neck. If the law passed, the noose was removed, if the law failed to pass, the platform was removed.
It is all fun and games until you find out you only have you to blame for ruining your credit by not paying your bills.
Everyone's a capitalist until then.
And were the big bad boogie man because you spent money like a drunk sailor and no one stopped you like your mommy.
Why would Russia want them? They've always been a money loser.
http://redefininggod.com/2015/02/globalist-agenda-watch-2015-update-19a-...
Defense Minister Kammenos,
“What we want is a deal. But if there is no deal – hopefully (there will be) – and if we see that Germany remains rigid and wants to blow apart Europe, then we have the obligation to go to Plan B. Plan B is to get funding from another source,” he told a Greek television show that ran into early Tuesday. “It could the United States at best, it could be Russia, it could be China or other countries,” he said. <<<
Well, Russia has now permanently a port in Crimea, why not go for one in the Med? With plenty of islands to dock your ships? And then a nice port in Cyprus. From there it is not so far to the Suez canal. They would cover that. And Syria. How about that as a stranglehold on the West?
Russia has a naval base in the Med, it's at Tartus Syria. Oppppah! Makes the geo-politics a bit more clear now, don't it?
Why stop at one? Why not create a nice little triangle of bases in the Med? Something in Syria, something on Cyprus, something on Crete and then control the Aegian and the Sea of Marmara and control the flow of ships to Suez.
Makes camp Bondsteel once of a sudden look quite silly despite its size.
Maybe they could buy Malta from the brokeassed Brits.
"Ve must take Malta"
An even better swindle than the Indians who didn't own it selling Manhattan to the Dutch-- and for the same reason.
You're so smart, tarabel.
How could anybody own land if they didn't record their ownership with the Recorder of Deeds?
And the indians didn't open one Recorder of Deeds office before Whitey showed up.
not to mention
Tartus, Syria. Ah, the unfashionable side of Turkey
simple
location, location, location
"Go 4 it!... Sick Vlad on 'em ~ lol"
As I've already explained on 3/17* and on 3/19**...
Assume that you're lending money to a junkie (you'll NEVER see it again), and would therefore treat Greece on a pure 'Quid Pro Quo' basis:
1. Cash for Russian Naval Base on primo Greek island
2. Cash for Greek Agricultural products
3. Join AIIB
4. Natgas+Oil pipeline from Russia, via Black Sea and Turkey, through Greece to Macedonia
5. Principal Partner (co-owner) of Aegean development of gas fields
6. Cut Greek NATO spending in half, exit in 2-3 years. Every Euro removed from NATO budget to be added to Greek Navy.
7. Tell ECB to "Go stuff it!" Don't be polite about it.
p.s. As one ZHer*** noted, if Greece keeps its NATO seat, Russia/China get a Proxy Vote via Greece.
* Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:16 | 5899233 new Kirk2NCC1701
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-17/greek-pm-meet-putin-amid-cash-c...)
** Thu, 03/19/2015 - 12:59 | 5906514 new Kirk2NCC1701
*** Tue, 03/17/2015 - 16:58 | 5899492 TomGa
Good plan. But I have to wonder if Syriza are just lackeys for the US or if they are simply not bold enough to make any kind of big move.
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is ruh666 a troll?
colorad?
Go Greece Go!
Ban all clown cars to raise money to bailout Greece and call it climate change.
No cars allowed in Paris because green cars are still causing smog. Damn it. We fuck up again.
/sarc.
Option A: Continue putting up with the farce of being in the EU and its attendant miseries.
Option B: Run into the arms of Russia and trust to the tender mercies of Vladimir Putin.
Option C: Go it alone, get off your dead Greek asses, go to work, start paying your taxes and dump the socialist mindset that got you into this situation in the first place.
Maybe they could get the Turks to take them back.
Kissy, kissy!
The more the current Greek regime ups the rhetoric, the more it is clear they do not have a serious national leadership plan. Their chances of getting support (from Russia or any other country) depends on first having a plan to mobilize the people of Greece.
Holding out the alms cup will not work. The solution must begin with a plan to build on the real strengths of the Greek economy and strengthen the internal war on oligarchs and corruption.
Ukraine could benefit from that approach as well.
"The solution must begin with a plan to build on the real strengths of the Greek economy"
What are the "real strengths of the Greek economy" ????
My microscope is not powerful enough to find these "strengths" in that horribly degenerate society of socialist parasite defraudering thieves liars and hyper-corrupt bureacrats and communist unions, maybe yours is powerful enough to find these "strengths" and you could enlighten us.
Please compare with TINY ZERO-natural resources Singapore, one of my favorite places.
ports, shipping to world...which helps the agriculture too.
travel, tourism for world...busy/updated shipping ports help too.
agriculture to Russia.
I think Greek culture (and yes, gyros and feta) are very popular around the world...so Greece could become a strong tourist area with very cheap post-exit deals.
I am sure many from north EU and Russia would visit yearround if the prices were cut 10 times lower.
You are wrong on ports - while Greeks dominate the shipping biz, the ships are registered under flags of convenience AND there is only1 ports of any significant size in Greece (very small in EU ranking) - ports are located where there are BIG economies.
Regarding agriculture, obviously you have not been to Greece, which is one BIG rock with marginal agricultural lands.
The ONLY domestic biz of any significance tat Greece has ever had is tourism, and if you actually spent time there vs just imagining, you would know that northern europeans have been flocking to Greece in winter for generations already - not new - BUT that the tourism is DECLINING because of all the anti-northern-European hostile insutling propganda emanating from the Greeks !!!
Greece has few viable methods and economies, but these could be developed in the future.
Greece is not landlocked. So what are the possibilities for Greece in the future ? A new Byzantine ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ports_in_Greece
None suggested here Greece dominates anything at this point.
Personally I have met a few Greek shippers/fleet though family a few decades ago.
I have read recently there are plans afoot.
Separately off topic, I visited Athens in 1981 before university.
Singapore had MUCH LESS resources than Greece and became a world-leader in prosperity, urban planning, good governance, technology industry, shipping etc because Singapore had Really Good leadership AND citizens who worked together for the greater good of all, and corruption is NOT tolerated.
Greece is a failed culture/society of parasites, cheats, liars, thieves, swindlers, socialists, incompetents, failures, communists, and human garbage. That is why Greece will never rise from the cesspool of its own making.
Yes, it is true. Greece has been one of the most corrupt countries. I'd guess Turkey would also compete for many adjacent shipping/port business. Greece really only has natty trans-shipment possible going for it near term (Russia to Europe), as long as the gas pipelines get funded and built (through Turkey), and the leftist Greek "revolutionaries" don't blow it up every few weeks.
Changes.
OMG
if you substitute 'Jesus freaks' for 'communists' you have nailed down 'Exceptional Americans".
Western Civilization, too.
Here comes the Colored Revolution! Lets see, what color shall we pick. Ukraine used up Orange. Libya used up Green. Georigia used up Rose. Lets see, the State department's Public Relations contractors are busy right now working out the details. Perhaps Blue, to match the flag.
Let's be clear, you don't just walk away from NATO and the EU. No, you are a member for life, if not in good standing, then as a full blown Puppet. The State department is screening Greeks who belong to American NGO's right now. Offering bigger salaries and more important positions to those willing to act as leaders and instigators of street demonstrations. The local fasicsts are already courted by Mossad, MI6 and the CIA, their role will be worked out as the muscle behind the color revolution.
Here is what to look for. A take over of the square in front of parliament by European minded youth, soon to be aided by fascists hiding behind EU flags and Greek flags. But you will know the US is serious, when unknown snipers open up on the crowds and then vanish, seemingly members of the Greek government. And that frees up the Greek NATO army, which is under American command, to clean out the streets and the government. Put a General on the seat of power, and call for new, manipulated elections in two years time, while the NATO army cleans out all oppostion.
REMEMBER. Watch CNN! And watch for SNIPERS!
Look out for guys with distinctive coats or armbands. These will be coordinators for the various groups.
Let's be clear, you don't just walk away from NATO and the EU.
Just watch!
Turkey and Greece went to war with each other in 1973 you moron.
Not that Turkey isn't Russia's little bitch right now.
It was 20th of July 1974,
1973 was the the Arab Isreali war.
The then President Dictator Papadopoulos REFUSED TO ALLOW USA planes to station on Crete and to Help Israel.
He paid dearly on the 17th of November 1973 when he was deposed by his Military Policeman Ioannidis, puppet of the CIA.
Yes. Greece walks directly into Russa's open arms (or China or some other major non-EU). It is a way to exit the EU.
Interesting times.
Otpor anyone?
One of the guys of this movement (subsidized by the CIA) that put Milosevic aside went on to other color revolutions. For services rendered in the Maldives he got an island as a present. Why not go for a Greek island?
Probably a few Uke snipers in need of employment.
Jack, you've been paying close attention.
Hopefully a lot of Greeks have too!
That's one annoying way that we're different from sheep!
Unscrupulous NWO imperialists are going after US workers pensions. I think we should arrest them and exile them to Somalia.
Greece getting funding from Russia would be the best thing to happen to the West. Clearly Greece will eventually default, since there is no way they can grow fast enough to ever pay the debt. So here's how it would play out:
1. Greece gets funding from Russia.
2. Greece later defaults, but blames Russia for not covering the new bonds.
3. Russia is the villain and Greece returns to the West.
So in the end Russia pays lots of money and still makes an enemy. lol.
You leave out that as a part of the process, Greece defaults on $320 billion European debt. That $50 billion from Russia will become a whole lot more manageable.
you assume too much
DEJA VU CUBA: Russia could do this standing on their head.
I'm impressed
How did you masterbate and type that comment at the same time?
OH YEAH OH
The Central Banking Mafia have dictated terms for too long. Forcing loans on poorer sovereign States , most of which ends up in the pockets of the bankers, is no longer acceptable to a waking public. The days of the banking cartel are drawing to a close. It cannot come soon enough.
"Forcing loans"
FORCING loans, FORCING - WOW !!!! - I could hardy type this because I was laughing so hard I almost choked, wow, you are one stupid shit-for-brains, you've been watching the Godfather series too much, your parents must be ashamed to the point of suicide
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, John Perkins.
Don't be ridiculous. Nobody forced any loans on Greece. The Greeks begged for the money which they then spent like drunken sailors. Anybody with any knowledge of the country knows this.
Since 1824 and there after the game was to have the Banksters own people inside Greece.
They went in droves from Constantinople and other places to usurp the hard fought war for Greece's Independence.
The First Governor was Kapodistrias. He was ASSASINATED as he tried to print Greece's OWN Currency, the Phoenix, in the Aegina Island. (Ring any Bells?)
After that the country was NEVER OUT OF DEBT.
The Question is, WHO BEGS FOR LOANS? The People or the Politicians and their Oligarchs?
Rather shoddy underwriting, don't you think?
Just cry me a river you greedy stupid fucks.
hmmm discounted gas and land for new BMW factories....
Greece, unwilling to do anything but blame everyone else for it's fucking mess.
The new Greek "Trojan horse" is filled with hot air.
What Putin wants is to put Euro land in its place and punish them for their insolense of late. It would be worth printing 50 billion dollars and give it to Greece to create a messy Grexit. Take the whole thing down, recession for all and Russia with no debt wins!!!! I am a nobody and can see that. Putin must be salivating..... .
"Combat tax evasion including fines for non-payment of tax or failing to declare income; combat black market trade of fuel"
You combat Tax Evasion the same way the DEA combats drug lords: CONFISCATE ALL THEIR ASSETS! FINANCIAL AND REAL Assets (Money, properties, toys... all gone, MFer!). And then drag their asses to jail.
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p.s. Greeks are known as cunning and crafty, not as warriors. Forget the fictional demigods like Achilles or Hercules, etc. The REAL warrior heroes that "Greece" had, weren't even Greek:
Exhibit A: KING LEONIDAS (of The 300) was SPARTAN, not Greek.
Exhibit B: ALEXANDER THE GREAT was MACEDONIAN, not Greek.
Greeks were thinkers, sailors, traders and wankers, not warriors. Seems to me that they aren't "thinkers" any more either.
If in doubt, check out how Greek men dance, holding hands... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgQbqkRAu4k
Or their hands in the neighbor's waistband: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yx3O6MlVmo
Leonidas and Alexander must be spinning in their graves.
Imagine Putin gaining favor of Greece, Spain, Italy and Portugal.
It would be a slap in the face to NATO, Euro-land and the US.
Turkey must go Ruskie in order for Greece to go over.
RISKTMy Business.
Add Hungary to your list
They need some Greek Restaurants in Kansas Shitty. I love me some Greek food!!!!
feta, pita, olives, lamb kabob, salad!!
Question: How do you sit four Greeks at the bar?
Answer: Turn the barstool upside down.
Greece's leadership needs to stay off flights and go with secured conference calls.
"Imperialist"
....the first imperialistic people who wants to leave the whole Greece-debacle (...and the Euro...) as soon as possible.
When Germany leaves they will spit on us even more or call the ATM-machines "imperialists" when it does not spit money anymore..,
Fits in well with Russias ownership of Cyprus
Probably Syria and Turkey have to go hard Russian, and cooperate with Greece for any major change to occur. Cyrpus could then exit too, to Russia.
One can only speculate if the Germans would have had enough foresight, if they had first discovered the bomb.
Germany: Lent money and will lose it. Greece couldn't pay Germany back if it wanted to do so, which it doesn't.
Greece: Criminal enterprise masquerading as a country, will lose, one way or another.
Russia: Another way for Greece to lose.
Dude
Greece has already lost in regulation time.
Russia is Greece's only chance to win in overtime
Another 18 point plan. Jesus this is so pathetic . Defaulting is the way to punish Germany
Tsirpussy thinks Merkel will be kind enough to give him a reach around while assfucking him
Either default or enjoy debt slavery
As opposed to;
Unscrupulous non-budgeting defaulting Greece?
There was a time when zerohedgies vociferously and endlessly uttered high-minded platitudes about taking responsibility for actions. So does Greece get a free-pass on that one, for some unclear reason? If so, please explain what that reason might be, as I'd love to know the 'logic' of it?
Hopefully it's a bit more than an adolescent chip-on-the-shoulder, that awards Greece as 'right' for being a defaulting dead beat, and Germany 'wrong' for trying to make the system of EU budgeting functional, viable and based on actual maturity and taking responsibility.
Or is this one of those increasingly common variable hypocrisy things, where the crook and deceiver becomes the re-branded hero of the accepted propaganda memes, and the do-the-right-thing-guy, is painted as the defacto utter bastard spewed out of a pit of burning brimstone?
Is there a list I can read so that I know not to transgress the accepted facts from thinking too much for myself? I'd rather if someone did my thinking for me so I can just sit here and nod and drool at the double-think gymnastics.
This is why I hate Americas support for Communism like Apple making phones there.
Everybody likes Capitalism until you dont pay your bills then they dont like what happens.
Just like American banks and those who bailed them out.
We have no credibility now. Everyone running to the Commies.
Hell we dont let kids walk to the park or school we do everything for them and wonder why were turning socialist.
Fuck all of them.