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Americans Supported and Inspired the Nazis
Preface: I am a patriotic American who loves my country. I was born here, and lived here my entire life.
So why do I frequently point out America's warts? Because - as the Founding Fathers and Supreme Court judges have explained - we can only make America better if we honestly examine her shortcomings. After all:
“Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.”
Only when Americans can honestly look at our weaknesses can we become stronger. If we fail to do so, history will repeat ...
While Americans rightly condemn the Nazis as monstrous people, we don't know that America played both sides ... both fighting and supporting the Nazis.
Americans also aren't aware that the Nazis were - in part - inspired by anti-Semites in America.
Backing Nazis
Large American banks - and George W. Bush's grandfather - financed the Nazis.
American manufacturing companies were big supporters of the Nazis. here are 6 historical examples ...
(1) IBM. CNET reports:
IBM has responded to questions about its relationship with the Nazis largely by characterizing the information as old news.
"The fact that Hollerith equipment manufactured by (IBM's German unit) Dehomag was used by the Nazi administration has long been known and is not new information," IBM representative Carol Makovich wrote in an e-mail interview. "This information was published in 1997 in the IEEE Annals of the History of Computing and in 1998 in Washington Jewish Week."
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IBM also defended Chairman Thomas Watson for his dealings with Hitler and his regime.
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On September 13, 1939, The New York Times reports on Page 1 that 3 million Jews are going to be "immediately removed" from Poland, and they appear to be candidates for "physical extermination." On September 9, the German managers of IBM Berlin send a letter to Thomas Watson with copy to staff in Geneva via phone that, due to the "situation," they need high-speed alphabetizing equipment. IBM wanted no paper trail, so an oral agreement was made, passed from New York to Geneva to Berlin, and those alphabetizers were approved by Watson, personally, before the end of the month.
That month he also approved the opening of a new Europe-wide school for Hollerith technicians in Berlin. And at the same time he authorized a new German-based subsidiary in occupied Poland, with a printing plant across the street from the Warsaw Ghetto at 6 Rymarska Street. It produced some 15 million punch cards at that location, the major client of which was the railroad.
We have a similar example involving Romania in 1941, and The Sunday Times has actually placed the IBM documents up on their Web site.... When Nazi Germany went into France, IBM built two new factories to supply the Nazi war machine. This is the 1941-'42 era, in Vichy, France, which was technically neutral. When Germany invaded Holland in May 1940, IBM rushed a brand-new subsidiary into occupied Holland. And it even sent 132 million punch cards in 1941, mainly from New York, to support the Nazi activity there. Holland had the highest rate of Jewish extermination in all of Europe; 72 percent of Jews were killed in Holland, compared to 24 percent in France, where the machines did not operate successfully.
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When Hitler came to power in 1933, his desire to destroy European Jewry was so ambitious an enterprise, it required the resources of a computer. But in 1933 no computer existed. What did exist was the Hollerith punch-card system. It was invented by a German-American in Buffalo, New York, for the Census Bureau. This punch-card system could store all the information about individuals, places, products, inventories, schedules, in the holes that were punched or not punched in columns and rows.
The Hollerith system reduced everything to number code. Over time, the IBM alphabetizers could convert this code to alphabetical information. IBM made constant improvements for their Nazi clients.
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Our entry was of course precipitated by the bombing of Pearl Harbor on December 7. Shortly before that, with sudden new trading-with-the-enemy regulations in force--this is October 1941--Watson issued a cable to all IBM's European subsidiaries, saying in effect: "Don't tell us what you're doing and don't ask us any questions." He didn't say, "Don't send machines into concentration camps." He didn't say, "Stop organizing the military forces of Nazi Germany." He didn't say, "Don't undertake anything to harm innocent civilians."
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He then bifurcated the management of IBM Europe--one manager in Geneva, named Werner Lier, and the other one in New York, in his office, named J.L. Schotte. So all communications went from Switzerland to New York. Ultimately there was a Hollerith Department called Hollerith Abteilung--German for department--in almost every concentration camp. Remember, the original Auschwitz tattoo was an IBM number.
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IBM put the blitz in blitzkrieg. The whole war effort was organized on Hollerith machines from 1933 to 1945. This is when information technology comes to warfare. At the same time, IBM was supporting the entire German war machine directly from New York until the fall of 1941 ....
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IBM did more than just sell equipment. Watson and IBM controlled the unique technical magic of Hollerith machines. They controlled the monopoly on the cards and the technology. And they were the ones that had to custom-design even the paper forms and punch cards--they were custom-designed for each specific purpose. That included everything form counting Jews to confiscating bank accounts, to coordinating trains going into death camps, to the extermination by labor campaign.
That's why even the paper forms in the prisoner camps had Hollerith notations and numbered fields checked. They were all punched in. For example, IBM had to agree with their Nazi counterparts that Code 6 in the concentration camps was extermination. Code 1 was released, Code 2 was transferred, Code 3 was natural death, Code 4 was formal execution, Code 5 was suicide. Code 7 was escape. Code 6 was extermination.
All of the money and all the machines from all these operations was claimed by IBM as legitimate business after the war. The company used its connections with the State Department and the Pentagon to recover all the machines and all the bank accounts. They never said, "We do not want this blood money." They wanted it all.
(2) Standard Oil. The Nazi air force - the Luftwaffe - needed tetraethyl lead gas in order to get their planes off the ground. Standard Oil sold tetraethyl to the Nazis.
After WWII began, the English became angry about U.S. shipments of strategic materials to Nazi Germany. So Standard changed the registration of their entire fleet to Panamanian to avoid British search or seizure. These ships continued to carry oil to the Nazis.
(3) Ford. Ford made cars for the Nazis. Wikipedia notes:
Ford continued to do business with Nazi Germany, including the manufacture of war materiel. Beginning in 1940, with the requisitioning of between 100 and 200 French POWs to work as slave laborers, Ford-Werke contravened Article 31 of the 1929 Geneva Convention. At that time, which was before the U.S. entered the War and still had full diplomatic relations with Nazi Germany, Ford-Werke was under the control of the Ford Motor Company. The number of slave laborers grew as the war expanded ....
(And see discussion under GM, below.)
Wikipedia also points out that Henry Ford was one of the world's biggest anti-Semites ... inspiring Hitler, Himmler and other high-level Nazis:
In Germany, Ford's anti-Semitic articles from The Dearborn Independent were issued in four volumes, cumulatively titled The International Jew, the World's Foremost Problem published by Theodor Fritsch, founder of several anti-Semitic parties and a member of the Reichstag. In a letter written in 1924, Heinrich Himmler described Ford as "one of our most valuable, important, and witty fighters." Ford is the only American mentioned in Mein Kampf. Adolf Hitler wrote, "only a single great man, Ford, [who], to [the Jews'] fury, still maintains full independence...[from] the controlling masters of the producers in a nation of one hundred and twenty millions." Speaking in 1931 to a Detroit News reporter, Hitler said he regarded Ford as his "inspiration," explaining his reason for keeping Ford's life-size portrait next to his desk. Steven Watts wrote that Hitler "revered" Ford, proclaiming that "I shall do my best to put his theories into practice in Germany," and modeling the Volkswagen, the people's car, on the Model T.
Grand Cross of the German Eagle, an award bestowed on Ford by Nazi Germany
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James D. Mooney, vice-president of overseas operations for General Motors, received a similar medal, the Merit Cross of the German Eagle, First Class.
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Testifying at Nuremberg, convicted Hitler Youth leader Baldur von Schirach who, in his role as military governor of Vienna deported 65,000 Jews to camps in Poland, stated,
The decisive anti-Semitic book I was reading and the book that influenced my comrades was ... that book by Henry Ford, "The International Jew." I read it and became anti-Semitic. The book made a great influence on myself and my friends because we saw in Henry Ford the representative of success and also the representative of a progressive social policy.
(4) GM. The Washington Post reports:
"General Motors was far more important to the Nazi war machine than Switzerland," said Bradford Snell, who has spent two decades researching a history of the world's largest automaker. "Switzerland was just a repository of looted funds. GM was an integral part of the German war effort. The Nazis could have invaded Poland and Russia without Switzerland. They could not have done so without GM."
Both General Motors and Ford insist that they bear little or no responsibility for the operations of their German subsidiaries, which controlled 70 percent of the German car market at the outbreak of war in 1939 and rapidly retooled themselves to become suppliers of war materiel to the German army.
But documents discovered in German and American archives show a much more complicated picture. In certain instances, American managers of both GM and Ford went along with the conversion of their German plants to military production at a time when U.S. government documents show they were still resisting calls by the Roosevelt administration to step up military production in their plants at home.
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When American GIs invaded Europe in June 1944, they did so in jeeps, trucks and tanks manufactured by the Big Three motor companies in one of the largest crash militarization programs ever undertaken. It came as an unpleasant surprise to discover that the enemy was also driving trucks manufactured by Ford and Opel -- a 100 percent GM-owned subsidiary -- and flying Opel-built warplanes ....
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The relationship of Ford and GM to the Nazi regime goes back to the 1920s and 1930s, when the American car companies competed against each other for access to the lucrative German market.
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In 1935, GM agreed to build a new plant near Berlin to produce the aptly named "Blitz" truck, which would later be used by the German army for its blitzkreig attacks on Poland, France and the Soviet Union. German Ford was the second-largest producer of trucks for the German army after GM/Opel, according to U.S. Army reports.
The importance of the American automakers went beyond making trucks for the German army. The Schneider report, now available to researchers at the National Archives, states that American Ford agreed to a complicated barter deal that gave the Reich increased access to large quantities of strategic raw materials, notably rubber. Author Snell says that Nazi armaments chief Albert Speer told him in 1977 that Hitler "would never have considered invading Poland" without synthetic fuel technology provided by General Motors.
As war approached, it became increasingly difficult for U.S. corporations like GM and Ford to operate in Germany without cooperating closely with the Nazi rearmament effort. Under intense pressure from Berlin, both companies took pains to make their subsidiaries appear as "German" as possible. In April 1939, for example, German Ford made a personal present to Hitler of 35,000 Reichsmarks in honor of his 50th birthday, according to a captured Nazi document.
Documents show that the parent companies followed a conscious strategy of continuing to do business with the Nazi regime, rather than divest themselves of their German assets. Less than three weeks after the Nazi occupation of Czechoslovakia in March 1939, GM Chairman Alfred P. Sloan defended this strategy as sound business practice, given the fact that the company's German operations were "highly profitable."
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After the outbreak of war in September 1939, General Motors and Ford became crucial to the German military, according to contemporaneous German documents and postwar investigations by the U.S. Army. James Mooney, the GM director in charge of overseas operations, had discussions with Hitler in Berlin two weeks after the German invasion of Poland.
Typewritten notes by Mooney show that he was involved in the partial conversion of the principal GM automobile plant at Russelsheim to production of engines and other parts for the Junker "Wunderbomber," a key weapon in the German air force, under a government-brokered contract between Opel and the Junker airplane company. Mooney's notes show that he returned to Germany the following February for further discussions with Luftwaffe commander Hermann Goering and a personal inspection of the Russelsheim plant.
Mooney's involvement in the conversion of the Russelsheim plant undermines claims by General Motors that the American branch of the company had nothing to do with the Nazi rearmament effort.
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At GM and Ford plants in Germany, reliance on forced labor [from concentration camp inmates] increased.
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In a court submission, American Ford acknowledges that Iwanowa and others were "forced to endure a sad and terrible experience" at its Cologne plant ....
Ford has backed away from its initial claim that it did not profit in any way from forced labor at its Cologne plant.
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Mel Weiss, an American attorney for Iwanowa, argues that American Ford received "indirect" profits from forced labor at its Cologne plant because of the overall increase in the value of German operations during the war. He notes that Ford was eager to demand compensation from the U.S. government after the war for "losses" due to bomb damage to its German plants and therefore should also be responsible for any benefits derived from forced labor.
Similar arguments apply to General Motors, which was paid $32 million by the U.S. government for damages sustained to its German plants.
(5) Kodak. During World War Two, Kodak's German branch also used slave laborers from concentration camps. Several of their other European branches did heavy business with the Nazi government.
And Wilhelm Keppler - one of Hitler's top economic advisers - had deep ties in Kodak. When Nazism began, Keppler advised Kodak and several other U.S. companies that they'd benefit by firing all of their Jewish employees.
(6) Coca Cola. Coke made soda for the Nazis. Fanta was specifically invented for Nazi-era Germans.
Leading American financiers Rockefeller, Carnegie and Harriman also funded Nazi eugenics programs.
And the U.S. government actively backed the Nazis in Ukraine 70 years ago.
Inspired By America
As noted above, Hitler and his top henchmen were inspired by Henry Ford's writings.
The American author Lothrop Stoddard was the source of the concept of "under-man (sub-human)" adopted by the Nazis in regards to Jews and communists.
According to the San Francisco Chronicle, the idea of killing Jews, communists and gypsies in gas chambers originated in the U.S. ... not Germany.
And Nazis were also apparently inspired by America's treatment of Native Americans. Specifically, retired Major in the U.S. Army Judge Advocate General Corps, Todd E. Pierce - who researched and reviewed the complete records of military commissions held during the Civil War and stored at the National Archives in Washington, D.C. as part of his assignment in the Office of Chief Defense Counsel, Office of Military Commissions - notes:
Stories of the American conquest of Native Americans with its solution of placing them on reservations were particularly popular in Germany early in the Twentieth Century including with Adolf Hitler.
Finally, the Nazis copied American propaganda techniques.
Postscript: After WWII, America imported and protected many high-level Nazi scientists and spies, and put them into prominent positions within the U.S.
And many allege that we're supporting neo-Nazis in Ukraine.
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You don't get to hound and haunt anyone. You are too big for your britches is all.
If the Tyler's kept pumping some financial propaganda that was below the intelligence of fellow Zh'ers wouldn't you hound and ridicule that author for pimping a book or some financially fraudulent investment?
You damn sure would. I'm not getting to big for my bitches. You are forgetting why I wear britches and not a skirt like some around here.
Oh nos its zeeee Nazis.
http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/
The ethno-Bolshevik mass murderers
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Putin-First-Soviet-governm...
All the history we've been taught about WW2, or probably any friggin war for that matter, is 100% BBS, Bolshevik-bullshit.
There is no "History of the NKVD" in DC now is there.
Would appear we have about five ACTIVE NKVD's right now there probably explains.
Even Stalin hated the NKVD. They completely missed the entire German invasion!
How the fuck do you not see an entire 8 million man Army preparing to attack you? Even the Russians puzzle over that one today.
America's top air ace in World War II got just over 40 kills. In Germany it was over 400!
"How the fuck do you not see an entire 8 million man Army preparing to attack you?"
Because Stalin was adament that the Germans would not attack. Anyone publicly disagreeing with him was likely to hear the Midnight Knock.
Chas Linbergh supported Nazi Germany till he didn't.
http://www.rationalrevolution.net/war/american_supporters_of_the_europ.htm
Dickheads come in all flavors and colors calling themselves whatever they find easy. They hide behind religion and race and even sex.
Its this wierd thing we do. We give free passes to people of our group. Like the way cops let other cops do bad things. Loyalty to your team? Even tho they cheat. We so like to lable people into groups then its easy to blame everyone in that group. We make it way to easy to do this. We lump all the Japs together as evil. Its a trick that runs thru all of history. Its much easier to blame a nation than the person baking bread.I knew some Germans that came over after WW2. They were lead into war not by choice but by force as a group. All Germans became nazi by decree.
The governments start wars not the plumber. I dont recall any person with honest skills ever starting a war. Why we ever let any no tallent POS lead us is beyond me. We would be better off being lead by ditch diggers than lawyers any day. Show me you can make a living without force of any kind. Then what you say might have some value.
Fixing this starts with holding our own group to the same standard. My group is the honest hard working folks that dont use force to get their way. We shun dickheads of all flavors.
The double standard is evil. The sooner each of us stops using a double standard the better.
Judge me how you will. All I ask is that you hold yourself to the exact same standard along with your dickhead friends.
The author neglected to mention Margret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. I'd like to add that Sanger often preached here philosiphy at KKK meetings too!
The Nazi "Final Solution" can trace its birth back to Dr. Paul Popenoe's 1933 'Eugenic Sterilization' in Margret Sanger's Birth Control Review. The article was based upon the work of Mr. Gosney and Dr. Popenoe experiences with California's 'forced sterilization' laws and their implementation. Margret Sanger's eugenics friends in academia helped Ernst Rudin, Alfred Ploetz and Reich Interior Minister Wilhelm Frick withthe formation of an Expert Committee on Questions of Population and Racial Policy which eventually crafted Germany's Law for the Prevention of Genetically Diseased Offspring. In the autobiography of Leon Whitney, head of the American Eugenics Society he himself documents being the "go-between" for Hitler and Sanger.
"The undermenschen" still won though didn't they.
Another fact conveniently ignored by "George Washington."
The real GW lost pretty much every battle save the first and the last.
He was a great retreater however.
Took everything the USA had to exit Vietnam. We are not so lucky this go around.
To me THAT is the issue that needs talking about.
At a minimum we're talking at least a Thirty Years War here.
That's the model I am basing this conflict off of right now. Would appear so is Wall Street as well.
Apparently, the Americans failed to support them enough since they ended up losing the war.
In the end of things, WWII was wn by the Russians and they had to pay for the consumption that they demanded (Lend / Lease).
We helped beat the Germans logistically. The Russians paid a much greater price in blood, though I think that a lot of that was Stalin's fault for not believing that Hitler would turn on him when he did, not to mention the purges that wiped out a lot of the generals that probably would have known what they were doing. At the beginning of Operation Barbarossa, it was clear that the Russians were wholly unprepared. At the end of WWII, it was clear that the Germans were wholly unprepared.
Not much change today, the corporate monopoly criminals are still in charge of the USA. Rockefeller’s Exxon is investing more funds in Russia than they are in the USA.
Exxon is apparently exempt from the USA sanctions on Russia. The same modus of operation of dealing with the enemy for profit exist today and goes unpunished as it did during WW11.
When will we bring the American Traitors to Justice?
Of course Exxon is. Russia has lots of oil, and Exxon is in the oil business. The sanctions themselves are stupid. I'm sure that if I go rooting around, I can find plenty of reasons to condemn Exxon, but I'm not going to condemn them for ignoring US dicates when I think that a lot of US dictates across the board are stupid, unconstitutional and often downright malicious. If you want to talk about them ignoring those dictates because they semi-own the US government, where others would get locked into a cage and/or driven out of business for doing what they do, then fine, they should be condemned. But ignoring US sanctions alone? There is no rule of law here, and if the government isn't going to follow its rules, why should I follow its rules? Why should they?
In reply to El Vaquero: You missed my point: GW’s documentation of American big oil and American banksters doing business with the enemy for profit during WW11, is Treason. I have relatives that served our country and died doing so while American monopoly corporations profited from their deaths; that is treason.
The current idiot sanctions were just an example. In WW111, Exxon would be working with the enemy supplying the enemy with fuel just as the Rockefeller’s supplied the Nazis during WW11.
Washington’s Lawlessness and treason is running rampant in the USSA as American military industrial complex are arming both sides in our “never ending war on terrorism”; that is also treason.
We are arming and supplying the very people that we are fighting; that is treason to our boys dying in the American military.
Exactly who is our enemy and, more importantly, why are they our enemy? Where are we sending troops and why are we sending the troops in there? I am not patriotic and I will continue to be unpatriotic so long as the US government is acting like a bunch of greedy criminal vermin. I'm not going to get pissed off at Exxon for doing business in Russia while the US is agressivly pursuing a policy that could lead to WWIII. The travesty here is that they can do it when others cannot. This is every bit as stupid as WWI was. In the end, it may prove even dumber. Only 20 million people died in that war. And for what, exactly?
In reply to El Vaquero: You fail to connect Rockefeller Exxon, Rockefeller global banksters, Military Industrial Complex, Federal Reserve, Congress and the USA government together.
Don’t you understand that OUR government has been overthrown and is controlled by the Washington neo-con fascist (merger of corporate monopoly with government)? The criminals and government reign over the USA with lawlessness while the government and military carry out the criminals wishes. We the people, must regain our Constitutional Republic in order for the American People to return to business and the Rule of Law. The American Empire of debt criminals will be brought to Justice for Treason.
Yes, I understand that, but sanctions on Russia are to protect the dollar. They're also bad for oil companies. Like I say, the travesty isn't that Exxon is in there, it's that nobody else can go in there without risking their asses. There shouldn't be sanctions in the first place and there shouldn't be special treatment of one company over another. US oligarchs are not all on the same page here. If Exxon is in there creating, controlling or otherwise supporting some evil totalitarian regeim that is going to rampage across the planet, then yes, they should be taken down, but if they're just in there extracting oil, who gives a fuck, really? US law has become a joke and it's not followed by the very government that promulgates it. If the government cannot be bothered to follow it, nobody else should either. Until some hard evidence pops up that they're doing more than just extracting oil, I'd be more concerened with what our banking institutions are doing.
On today's global stage, we're playing a role that is somewhere between that of Kaiser Willhelm and the Nazis. Russia is no good guy, but we're the movers and shakers of alot of the bad shit that's going on to day. We're the bad guys, and that's a hard pill for a lot of people to swallow.
Nothing excuses - not a thing - Nazi atrocities, but there were certainly reasons things unfolded as they did - the treaty of versailles being the largest/least controversial contributor - but part of the backlash was heavy Jewish involvement in failed communist revolutions in Germany, their role in Hungary, Russia, and elsewhere.
As well as perceived profiteering and coordinated efforts to control media [as Ford and Lindbergh alleged] after ww1 while most germans suffered.
This isn't to say the allegations of anti-jewish conspiracy theorists are "true" - they tend to be wildly over-stated, but there is generally some basis in fact, and one should be able to fully explore historical questions IN GOOD FAITH...without fear of offending some group or other.
So is this book:
https://archive.org/details/JewishDominationOfWeimarGermany1919-1932
just nazi crap, completely false, based only in hate, filled with nothing but abject lies?
Or is the truth of the matter more nuanced?
https://archive.org/details/TheInternationalJewTheWorldsForemostProblemh...
Deciding a priori - before the fact - doesn't seem to be a valid way to address the question.
Look at the lies and exaggerations used to get the US into ww1, or vietnam, or Iraq.
I'd argue that understanding how kernels of *truth* are used to smuggle in lies and exaggeration is worthy of our study.
Although its certainly easier to say that some unpleasant book or theory is just "hate" and completely false.
Then, you don't have to do any thinking at all.
Talking about genocide and WW 2 the supreme irony is that it was the Jews who tried to exterminate the Germans, not the other way around.
so says the resident nazi on zh.
'IN GOOD FAITH'.
you lost me right there nazi. there is something called rewriting history. you allege others are doing it because you yourself are in fact the one doing it.
in good faith, you cannot make that shit up.
if there is one thing about nazi's and most people is that they always maintain the absurd claims they make are in good faith. yes is no and up is down. it's all in good faith.
whenever people like you...
and by like you I mean stupid racists who don't think they're racist because they hate groups its okay to hate....
repeat the word 'nazi' - without any argument to support it...
or claim that a claim is 'absurd' - without any argument to support it....
I know I've struck a nerve with a Ziopath.
https://kloposmasm.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/anti-semitism4.jpg
Here's the thing, sport - once upon a time the Nazis were people who made people worship the German state and murdered innocent Jews.
Now, "nazis" are people who worship the Jewish state and object ANYONE OBJECTING TO that state's oppression and murder of the indigenous people of Palestine.
Get some new material. You are far more of a Nazi in actuality than I could ever be.
Fuck.
You.
https://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/why-zionism-nazism-comparis...
https://i0.wp.com/anonhq.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/double-standard-...
Bolsheviks, too:
http://www.counter-currents.com/2013/10/wall-street-and-the-november-191...
both groups were evil fucks, but the Bolsheviks dont get nearly the credit they deserve in the US for their evil fuckery.
Mao, too, I suppose.
National socialism, isn't it grand?
Why were communists in Hollywood – even Jews – saying nice things about Hitler in 1939 – and even as late as 1941? They were doing so because of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact – also known as the Hitler-Stalin Pact.
It was signed in 1939 and broken June 22, 1941, when the Nazis invaded the Soviet Union.
From 1939 right up until June 22, 1941, the communists in Hollywood had nothing but praise for Hitler. They held rallies against aiding Britain in its life-and-death struggle with Nazism. They gave speeches saying Hitler was no threat. They wrote anti-war scripts.
All that changed June 22, 1941. One day the Hollywood communists were pro-Hitler. The next day they wanted to go to war. Why? Because they took their orders directly from masters in the Soviet Union.
Except they weren't largely praising NS Germany.
http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/j...
This is all irrelevant. It's in the past. Let's look at the present: Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, et cetera
People bitch about the jews expelling the arabs in 1948.
It's not irrelevant. It should spurr you to look at who is financing the shitshow today. People can be duped into supporting some downright nasty stuff, and the fact that it happened back then means that it can happen today. We should all be cognizant of this. Furthermore, just because it didn't happen here does not mean that it cannot. The US does support some downright nasty shit today.
+1000 El Vaquero.
FFS, Follow the money.
Just more anti-America PROPAGANDA from islamic-cult-worshiping vermin. The only objective is to denigrate America in the pursuit of the islamic-cult's fantasy of world domination by the islamic cult.
Those of you live in America and believe in their garbage are licking islamic-cult-worshiping assholes - how does that taste ???
Those of you live in America and believe in their garbage are licking islamic-cult-worshiping assholes - how does that taste ???
Pretty much like Taco Bell.
odd how if you replace 'islamic' with 'jewish' what you wrote suddenly becomes hate speech and you could be banned from the site and if europe maybe arrested.
but because you limited your ignorant, hackneyed diatribe to muslims..... it's just free speech, maaaaaaan.
xoxoxox
I like for those kinds of people to reveal themselves.
The islamic handbook REQUIRES all followers to convert or kill all non-followers, that makes islam a doctrine of of conquest, domination and subjugation, and all actions against islam and it's cult followers SELF-DEFENSE.
I don't care for or against jews because I don't see the same doctrine in their handbook and they are not threatening or endangering me.
BTW, you might want to read up on The Crusades, The Inquisitions, as well as the subjugations of conquered peoples to Christianity.
So would you, if I take the correct inference from your comment.
why not take a walk through the Hebrew Scriptures?
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/
Jews and Muslims holy texts are both replete with hate and violence.
But you're *allowed* to say so about the Muslims.
There are 1.2 Billion muslims.
If even 5% followed the hate and violence stuff literally the world would even more of a shit show.
But as it is, in the past say 100 years, the US and Israel have killed, BY ORDERS OF FUCKING MAGNITUDE, more Muslims than Muslims have killed Jews and Christians.
As for Jewish acts of mass violence, I suppose the massacre of Greeks and Romans in Cyprus didn't make it into your textbook, or the mass executions and expulsions of Arabs in the late 1940s by Jews born in Europe....
Even so, you ought to do some more reading before you assign to Islam alone violence and hate.
For fuck's sake, even with a text primarily about love and mercy, Christians acted like absolute savages during the Crusades.
Religion is horseshit, but thank god most religious people dont take literally, fully, the sacred texts they claim to adhere to.
Not true, Islam allows coexistance with other monoteists peoples, including jews and christians. Not hindus nor atheists though.
It does not matter. Muslims dont give a shit about Islam. The koran is boring.
"Muslims dont give a shit about Islam."
What an unimaginably stupid and ignorant thing to say....
Good job on the propaganda. I'm not a fan of the muzzies, but playing on hatreds to convince everybody that the US isn't some gigantically fucked up country full of its own problems and its own evils is a time tested method. Point to another group that people can easially hate to take attention away from the reasons that we should hate some of the things that we are doing here. It's even better if there are reasons to hate the patsy group that are real.
We'll I'll this country didn't become fucked up because of too much liberty or Christian values that's for damn sure.
I did not claim that America is not a "fucked up country" - I agree that it IS, BUT
the islamic cult vermin and russian gangster invaders
that the GW impostor propaganda sewer is always defending OVER America
ARE FAR FAR FAR WORSE THAN AMERICA
so don't be shitting on America while spraying perfume on those who STINK EVEN WORSE.
you're a tedious and vapid twit with this account, and you're a tedious and vapid twit with your other ones, too.
Yet you show up to disparage GW at every single article and offer nothing, and I mean nothing, to counter anything that he says on a factual basis. That is a hallmark of propaganda, and I do not like propaganda. Are you going to argue that there weren't Americans who supported Hitler? Factually? If not, go probe some anuses.
And hard as it is to believe and accept, words command and control worlds and never more so than today for the raising of events and projects/programs for tomorrow which phorm the future with IT phishes.
And a very nice virtual business to be masterful in too, for it and IT suffer not the folly of fools and their wielding of blunt tools.
now IBMs employees are the target.
IBM employees are a target by their own management.
Relish your role!!!!
Youse guys wear ties annymore?
Itsa good thing.
Try telling this story to the average American redneck...
They are not interested in the truth. They are so fucking brainwashed.
"Hey...Look at the size of Kim's ass. You need to stop reading that conspiracy bullshit. That was so long ago that it does not matter."