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First Europe, Now The Gulf's Leaders Agree To Form United Arab Military Force
Just a week after Jean-Claude 'I am not a hawkish warmonger' Juncker pressed for the creation of a Unified European Army to combat the 'looming' threat of their massive trade partner Russia; RT reports Arab leaders have agreed to form a joint military force from roughly 40,000 elite troops and backed by warplanes, warships and light armor at a Sharm el-Sheikh summit. Egyptian President Abdel Sisi has announced a high-level panel will work out the structure and mechanism of the future force. The work is expected to take four months.
The president of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker, who leads the EU’s executive arm, said an EU army would let the continent “react credibly to threats to peace in a member state or a neighbour of the EU”.
And now, as RT reports, The Gulf is getting one too...
Arab leaders have agreed to form a joint military force at a Sharm el-Sheikh summit, hosting Egyptian President Abdel Sisi has announced. The meeting was dominated by the situation in Yemen, where Saudi Arabia leads a bombing campaign against rebels.
"The Arab leaders have decided to agree on the principle of a joint Arab military force," Sisi said Sunday as the summit wrapped up. The summit final communique called for "coordination, efforts and steps to establish an unified Arab force" to intervene in countries such as Yemen.
The Egyptian leader said a high-level panel will work out the structure and mechanism of the future force. The work is expected to take four months.
Earlier reports said the joint Arab military may be formed from roughly 40,000 elite troops and backed by warplanes, warships and light armor. There are however doubts that all 22 members of the Arab League would significantly contribute to it; the formations of the force could take months.
In a communique signed in the Egyptian resort city, the Arab countries also called on the West to form a new more comprehensive response to militancy, which is a thinly veiled reference to the desire by some Arab nations to see a new Western military intervention in Libya.
The country that was devastated after civil war and a NATO bombing campaign, which helped to oust strongman Muammar Gaddafi in 2011, became a hotbed for Islamist radicals, including the terrorist organization Islamic State.
Not everyone is buying it as a possibility...
James Dorsey, a Middle East analyst with the Singapore-based S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies, said that despite support for a joint-Arab force, "it would still take months to create and then operate on an ad-hoc basis.
"I don't think we will get an integrated command anytime soon, as no Arab leader would cede control of any part of their army anytime soon," he said.
"Today we will have a formal declaration that would be negotiated every time during action."
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It appears The Endgame of this global game of Risk is fast approaching as one-by-one, geographically proximate nations join forces for whetever comes next.
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It's all soooo exciting...!!
Is Israel in this coalition's horizon?
No, but Zionists will control it's use. It will kill only Arabs or Persians. It would never lay a finger on Zionists or their puppets. Saudi Arabia is a perfect example, swon defender of zionism and Israel. Suadi forces will kill Arabs at will, but never ever lay a finger on the Zionists and Co.
LOL... I see that you have the secret decoder ring!
Sure, go ahead, write a long post on how you know precisely what goes on in all the back rooms!
I guess you missed Obama bowing to the Saudi King not too long ago? Not to mention all the standing ovations for Netanyahu in Congress. It doesn't take a genius to figure some of this out (those who defend and support Zionism and the NWO).
Let me guess, instead of explaining anything you will pull the "anti semite" card in 3, 2, 1...?
The difference between Putin and Obama.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SiUYlm7M6vc
The silence from the "always endangered and threatened" Israel about creating an Islamic military attack force "to intervene" in other countries is deafening!
And the silence of the Zio-media in the West about ignoring the UN and attacking souvereign countries is deafening, too. While the "always endangered and threatened" poor Israel is quietly sitting in the midst - and probably laughing.
CH1, for a smart guy, your response is emotional and falls short of your usual analytical insight. I'm guessing that your blue & white underwear is showing?
What you could and should have flagged, is that although Iran is an "existential threat" to Israel, this Arab Confederacy is NOT? Note he suspicious silence about this in its media and its satellite US MSM.
It's the exact analog of Sherlock Holmes and "the dog that did not bark".
Please raise your game, CH1. I know you can.
I did not try to research it but I wonder how many of the Confederacy are Shia's. Any?
Will it be used against Syria and Iran?
The way you put it, seems like them Israelis are pretty smart fellers. Guess there's a reason why they don't let their daughters date just anybody.
No goyims!
Considering how ugly most Jewish girls are, that is an excuse to make them feel better. Keep them home so they dont get rejected by the goyim lol.
Yes psychopaths are generally pretty smart fellas. The trauma of circumcission on only a few days old baby is guaranteed to trigger the psychopath gene that 2% to 5% of any given population carry. Consider this , if circumcission had never been "invented" and then out of the blue some parent did this to their new born baby , the whole world would react with horror and these parents would be vilified and locked up as criminally insane perverts. Because two competing circumcissionist cults have been indulging in this vile perversion for what ? 2 thousand years , people accept this without stopping to think rationally about it. If you are of the Judaic or Islamic cult or even just plain ole American these days , do you honestly think that without this being part of your indoctrination into your "cult"ure you would think to do this to the baby child that you hopefully would love so much. How can you do this brutal mutilation assault on your own child ? are you really that mind controled by old men in special costumes ranting old myths from old books written by you dont even know who and anyway they are long dead ? For the sake of reason and love of your children ,please liberate yourselves from this barbaric and criminal practice .
That's all well and good but....9 out 10 women prefer circumcised men.
"brutal mutilation assault" may be taking a little snip a bit too far.
"9 out of 10 women prefer", what ? did your favorite pervy old man in a special costume tell you that when you were a little boy and you had forgotten the extreme pain that his cultish beliefs had caused you because the coward had done it to you when you were too young to defend yourself and to retain the memory of his betrayal and perversion
That is a moronic reply, Joker. I am not going to join in on this debate overall, but it is certainly the case that if 9 out of 10 men preferred genitally mutilated women (and they do in some parts of the world), that would not make female genital mutilation (except of truly consenting adult females) ethical.
You say my reply is moronic and then dare to compare female genital mutilation with circumcision. Hello?
Your penis is still intact. What they do to women is completely mysogynistic. They don't have a clit left when they're done.
Jesus, of all the things to be concerned about, circumcism never even crossed my mind.
Don't take my word for it. Ask the next ten women you talk to.
Um, what's the difference? In both cases the person has no say about what happens to his/her body. They are treated like an object by people who have total control over them, and made to endure a hideously painful mutilation. Naturally in all these cases, the people who are doing the mutilating have all sorts of self-justifications. Naturally, in neither type of case do they allow the person to make the choice him/herself - since then, oddly enough, many of them wouldn't want it done to them. It's no accident that it is done to people who can't stop it from being done to them.
There are many varieties and degrees of female circumcision - some of them are as "limited" as male circumcision. Nonetheless, the young women who are mutilated find it hideously painful and demeaning: http://www.stopfgmmideast.org/a-kurdish-girls-story-of-female-genital-mu....
Circumcision has never crossed your mind, because it is a cultural norm. I invite you to start to thinking about it. Once you do, you may come to another view. Most people eat animals. I used to. Once I started to think about that cultural norm, and realized that I could not ethically accept it, I stopped eating animals.
My sexual satisfaction as a female, is not the most important thing to me. I would rather have less sexual satisfaction, and have a partner who had not been mutilated without his consent. If some guy, once he reached the age of consent, decided that he wanted it done, all power to him.
I'm glad I was circumcised, cultural practice or not. An uncirc penis is high maintenance, can harbor all kinds of bacteria and other things unless carefully kept clean. Whatever.
Eating animals is not a cultural norm. Our teeth and digestive systems have evolved to eat meat. Otherwise we wouldn't have incisers (for grasping meat), canines (for grasping and tearing meat), and premolars (for breaking meat into smaller pieces). We would have teeth like a horse or elk. Molars are the only teeth designed for grinding seeds and cellulose. Also, my gut is getting big enough without having to compensate for a rumen! Culture, sure.
The fact that you are glad that you are circumcised, is not relevant to the question of whether infant circumcision is an ethical practice. A certain percentage of women who have been genitally mutilated are glad of it. That doesn't mean that it is ethical to inflict on someone without his/her consent. If you don't like to wash yourself much, and are glad you were circumcised because of that, that is your specific situation although I really wouldn't brag on it if I were you.
There are cultures in which animals are not eaten (Buddhist, Hindu, Seventh Day Adventist). Ever since we have been humans, it has been a cultural norm, rather than a biological obligation. You are really into rationalizing your own preferences. We are physically designed/able to do all sorts of things that we have chosen not to do; having the physical ability to do something does not mean that it is somehow an inevitable behavior.
Circumcision is the Mark of the Beast.
"Circumcision is the Mark of the Beast."
Interesting theory, but not likely since that "mark of the beast" is supposed to be located on the forehead or the hand. Hence, either your... well, you know what, is on your forehead, or you walk with your... er... thingy in your hand all the time, it doesn't work.
Unless, of course, you're a circumcised porn addict. (A common WASP occurrence, BTW). But it still wouldn't add up to the figures, as almost everyone is supposed to sport one (I mean, a mark of the beast, not an American porn addict).
According to a re-re-translation of Aramaic... by someone with the mark of the beast.
I have grown quite skeptical of the words of penis-choppers over time.
The part of the procedure and ritual that I find offensive and indecent, is the FACT that (per Orthodox ritual), the boy's circumcised foreskin is removed with the Mohel's MOUTH.
Had this happened in ANY other faith or group, its practitioners would be behind bars and its groups tarred and feathered in the (Jewish-dominated) US MSM.
Although most Jews are strongly opposed to this (Orthodox version) of the Ritual, the point is, that it has not been banned or criminalized -- as it SHOULD be.
Another case of "Do as we say, not as we do". If the Truth hurts, so be it.
Let their daughters date, or fuck? Big difference there, they love to suck and fuck the goy cock, after which the jewesses are only permitted to marry their own because their parents are racist. But make no mistake, they love the goy sausage!
Where did you think she was back in college? I'd wager she was doing the whole team.
I though Isreal had 8 million active military personel. Maybe it was a dream
Applying the passive aggressive approach to doing business with the rest of us is not "smart." However, not many people can recognize this form of trickery because it is behavior we shun. Passive aggression (lying) does not take brilliance. It does not take courage. It requires hatred and it burns bridges. The Israelis can be glad humans have forgiveness in their heart, otherwise, they'd have been wiped off the earth long ago. Stealing for a living is essentially the job description.
You are correct. But what is important to understand is that it's necessary to act that way to keep the relationship between parasites and the host intact.
Interesting. Half the reason the US invaded the middle east to begin with was to prevent unification of arab states rising up to a superpower. Now, it seems that may just happen if this goes through. I was going to say the neocons won't like this but I think you are right. Things have changed since then, namely puppets in place, different regimes. A dead give away is if SA is included.
Kind of like how ISIS sworn enemy is Isreal and the US but they fight Syria and Iraq. Head fakes.
Military-Industrial Complex for the win!
Get used to it: "We've always been at war in the Middle East!"
The powers that be want/need a new world war to restructure things as they see fit.
Many moves occur during the "fog of war".
Rights will be lost, new laws will be instated, fortunes will be made, livelihoods stolen, dreams destroyed, and the techno-auto-oligarchs will wield more power and control than ever before.
As it is painfully wellknown, all it takes is an archduke/prince/oligarch to die, or a ship to sink, or a building to be demolished, or some other dubious reason to light the world ablaze.
Are we going to let them lead us and all the other organisms to the slaughter?
Given how few people have any clue what's actually going on, how do we stop the approaching slaughter?
Kissinger's quote "Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy." applies to most of the population, not just the military.
The only thing the powerful fear are people united in cause and most importatly willing to fill public spaces to let it be known.
Until then, talk publically about this, at work, home, online, wherever, plant seeds in the minds of others.
As long as people are afraid of confrontation with authority and with confronting their own cognitive disonance then yes I agree with you.
It is just a shame that there are way too many DUMBFUCKS and PUSSIES out there.
Those who see this are a small minority, and when the herd moves it can easily drag down any that try to go the other way.
Fight in your own way.
I do talk to as many as possible about these concepts.
Most stick their fingers in their ears and say 'la la la' loudly, but every now and again you see the lightbulb go on.
Remeber the lightbulbs and ignore those with blocked aural canals.
Helps you keep doing it.
Not "always". Per Oded Yinon and fellow Zionists, it only needs to destroy the fighting ability of Israel's neighbors and rivals in the ME.
"Zionist Plan for the Middle East (Special Document, No 1)"
http://www.amazon.com/Zionist-Plan-Middle-Special-Document/dp/0937694568
Please note that non-Zionist Israelis are pretty much marginalized in Israel's politics and media, so it is the Zionists who drive the Agenda, frame Arguments, and set Policies and Laws.
Time to take the blinders off.
yea when they need israel to nuke iran, they will ask israel very nicely to do so for them.
Not to worry, they have the best intentions. They are doing it for the children.
80,200 nuke warheads still rank second .
Max Steel, that's between 80 and 200 warheads. I thought 2nd was a bit low as well. Then I see it's not including quality of equipment, professionalism or training. WTF is the point of the ranking then?
My Bad . Israelis were always on top . Business Insider : Koch brother's propaganda outlet . They can't report the obvious
People give too much credit to those lists of planes and tanks like it means anything. In any modern war those tanks and planes would destroy each other or run out of ammunition in days. Arabs can put up fights with infantry only and only when operating in small, cohesive groups. Big institutional arab armies are but masses of unemployed dudes in khakis.
Many people refuse to see that war is plain FUCKING STUPID.
FIFY
Tell that to Hezbollah, their infantry did pretty good with anti tank missile vs the Heeebz
Good luck trying to find 40,000 "elite" troops in Arabia....
I think the author meant to say "effete". Makes more sense.
Define the baseline....
Anyone above it is 'elite'
Set the definition and you colour the way words are percieved, by those who don't look past the words.
I remember my thought at the Euro Army proposal was that it would be hard to imagine a less unified military force.
With the proposal for an Arab League Army I can now imagine one.
The thing that would unite the ME is the thing they are proposing to unite against.
Conner, Conner...Party Donner!
These folks have their eye on Babylon "via Yemen." Problem being Iran is there right now.
Turkey, Egypt, SA...been fighting this war since civilization began. Control of Baghdad means control of the Middle East....meaning food and water.
A coalition of the willing wishing it was the other they were killing.
It's The End Of The World As We Know It
Well, they might as well. Seems US arms get shipped to one group, then captured by another in any case. Why not have all the US arms get shared amongst ALL the Arab countries?
US arms "captured?!" HAHAHA! Gotta love Proxy War.
The Military Industrial Complex is under the ultimate control of psychopaths, natural deceivers, who manipulate public perception like magicians use sleight of hand. Nothing that is reported in Controlled Media nowadays can be taken at face value. Everything is a cover story, with names and labels changed to protect the guilty. All the groups marketed to us in recent years (Al Qaeda 1.x, Al Qaeda 2.x, Islamo-Fascists, Khorazon, ISIL, ISIS, etc.) are STATE AND CORPORATE SPONSORED AGENTS, PROXIES, the geostrategic equivalent of "Global Warming." Got an unsavory mission? Blame the bogeyman. It's called FOURTH GENERATION WARFARE, a mechanism for avoidance of responsibility and accountability to the citizenry. It isn't complicated, but it is counterintuitive to anyone with a conscience and a naive view of international affairs.
The Secret History of the American Empire: The Truth About Economic Hit Men, Jackals, and How to Change the World
What we're seeing now is a logical consequence of this evil, like urban succession warfare among street gangs, but on a larger scale, prompting large scale police response. The proxy groups have become too powerful for their sponsors to keep in check, and now threaten regional order. Local governments are increasingly motivated to pool their resources in the interest of regional security. The world is gearing up for major confrontation with the psychopaths, starting with their intermediaries.
The fact that western pathocrats resort to false flag terrorism in recent years (e.g., Boston) is an indication of desperation on their part to shore up public support for expansion of the police state ("protection") and continued meddling overseas, a diversion and stalling tactic to avoid dealing with top-down social, economic and political decay at home which seems ready to bring many western nations to the brink of collapse. I have worked for a psychopath at the helm of an organization which he brought to such a point on a smaller scale, and the only thing which saved it was his removal by force. The scale of corresponding cleanup that would be required of western institutions is mind-boggling.
Yes, we also see Bankers showing they are active in Politics with Announcements. Here we see two doing some Propaganda
- Society General announces that Diplomacy btw EU & Russia will fail and we will need years or decades of Sanction
- PIMCO Germany states what is needed is a united States of Europe and probably wants to help design it
"The lesson from history is that the status quo we have now is not a tenable structure," said Mr Bosomworth, PIMCO. "There's no historical precedent that this sort of structure, which is centralised monetary policy, decentralised fiscal policy, can last over multiple decades."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11501280/Eurozone-cant-surv...
In the USA threats are made that Congressmen or Presidential Candidates are committing treason if visiting foreign dignitaries.
Same thing, Treason, when Bankers are Political Actors in War, Weapons, diplomacy, and propaganda.
Everyone wants to be part of ww3 these days.
"wars and rumors of wars"
The summit final communique called for "coordination, efforts and steps to establish an unified (East Europe) Arab force" to intervene in countries such as (Hungary) Yemen.
If the U.S. is going to continue to stir up shit in the M.E. they will soon need to get a bigger spoon.......
Keep in mind, the current bull market in the world reserve currency
( the US$ in case you forgot ) is predicated on the new competition perceived
to be coming from the SCO. Everything falls out from there.
The noise from the FED on raising interest rates comes from there.
The panic interest rate drops around the world comes from there as well.
( if everyone else has lower rates the FED is under less pressure to raise theirs
... get it??? )
The Asian "pivot" comes from there as well.
The Russian situation comes from there ( Russkies are the nuclear punch line for the SCO )
The drop in oil prices also comes from there... a 25% increase in US$ value means everything
else including oil gets reprices downward... and yeah the DOW is next.
A combined EU and now ME army comes from there as well... none of them
are BRICS members now are they(???) ... so the SCO threatens the US$ and
therefore them as well...
Do we get the picture now???
!
United against a common enemy, who is probably sponsoring them anyway
What country deserves more condemnation for violating human rights than any other nation on earth? According to the U.N.’s top human rights body, that would be Israel.
I believe everything the UN says. After all, if you assemble all of the fake government statistics issued by individual nations and then have the bureacuracy at the Dictators' Club further "enhance" them, you're bound to end up with the god's honest truth about everything.
Knowing that the UN is there to protect my rights, well... who needs guns so long as they're on the job?
Remember the League of Nations? Here is why it was rejected:
Best Answer: "Although the League of Nations was the brain child of President Woodrow Wilson the United States Senate ultimately rejected it. It was done primarily for partisan political reasons. Wilson who had undergone a stroke and was physically weakened did not take any prominent Republicans with him when he made the unprecedented move of going to France for the peace process. At home there were a small group of Republicans who opposed any involvement in any type of International Organization because they feared that it would bring the United States into another European War that would be costly both in lives and dollars. They felt that the ocean was the only protection we needed to keep us out of constant European Warfare. These people were called "Isolationists" and their viewpoint started to become more and more popular with the public who did not want to send any more American men or dollars to support European troubles.Another group of Republicans led by the prominent Henry Cabot Lodge were called revisionists. Lodge generally accepted the wisdom of such an organization but opposed one article which allowed the League to send American forces into battle without approval of Congress. He wanted the charter to be revised so that Congress could have the right to approve or disapprove of the use of U.S. forces. Wilson refused to budge on the issue and made an impassioned whistle stop tour of the U.S. appealing to the American people to elect pro League democrats in the election of 1920 that is often referred to as the "October Appeal". In the election the American people overwhelmingly voted in Republicans including President Warren G. Harding and as a result the republicans took this as a mandate of the people not to join the league." baadevo · 8 years ago
Typical deathtoll of a traditional Gaza war: 2000 killed.
Typical deathtoll of a traditional month in Venezuela: 2000 killed. I personally witnessed a headshot and saw a corpse in front of my apartment building.
Get the hell out of there
It's funny how they can form a joint military force but they can't form a cartel to stabilize the price of oil to a level that ensures adequate revenue for their budgets.
Who said one isn't going to be used to control the other? Let's see who ends up with the controlling interest in this new ME military force....
It's much easier and more profitable for a few to destroy societies than it is to build a stable one for the benefit all of all.
If NATO is busy Saber Rattling with Russia, then it obviously can't go to the Aid of Suadi Arabia, Eygypt, Israel, Iraq, Turkey, Jordan, or Northern Africa.
So, yeah, Saudi Arabia needed to expand it's military Profile and puff up it's image.
USA is also busy in the region, busy with Africom, and Eucom. Plus China is part of it's pivot to Asia.
NATO, USA, Arab United Military, Iran, China, Japan, South Korea, North Korea, Pakistani Nukes, Indian Nukes, French... Lots of players and lots of Theaters of war.
Most people don't know that many countries are involved in all of our wars.
Funny about NATO a very old Organization is unprepared for war with Russia, what a joke.
How do the Sauds spend so much and have so small of a military?
PS. Let's not forget nukes>>everything else. Not sure how you don't put Israel at the top of the list.
israel gets a lot of credit for being a hyper technological western backed player with nukes.
but consider this.
the ottoman's rules the entire area for centuries. turkey has 80 million people. and a MASSIVE land area for agriculture.
the real question is , whether , simply because of nuclear weapons, we can disregard conventional realities about fighting prolonged wars.
you need OIL AND PEOPLE AND FOOD AND INDUSTRY.
isreal doesn't really have oil AT ALL. it's got a very small amount of PEOPLE and moderate food supplies that are highly vulnerable.
like ALL NATIONS FIGHTING WARS-------THE COUNTRY NEEDS CREDIT AND SUPPLY LINES FROM OTHER PRODUCING ALLIES TO SURVIVE.
HOWEVER-----israel's particular size and posture mean that even though it has nukes, it's still a very small country unable to survive prolonged war.
in this world ----israel is hyper vulnerable to being cut off from her allies. and thus------her sampson option is a veiled suicidal threat to those who might abandon her.
she cannot fight a war for more than a few months at a time, and indeed SHE NEVER HAS. israel is ALWAYS OVERSPENDING on military and ALWAYS taxing the shit out of her people to sustain the constant state of readiness that makes her a near perpetually hard country ready for conflict. that said---ACUTALL FULL SCALE CONFLICT stretches her borders and her people .
worse yet----due to isreal's rapid ascendance into the high culture and high lifestyle club of the west, her population is far less willing to die for her than the refugees of the 30s 40s 50s and 60s were. so she is far more political vulnerable from within than she used to be. as a once fearless country without nukes, israel has become a fearful country , spoiled , with hypertechnological prowess that remains highly in the clutches of her western puppet imperialists.
for all the anti-semties that think israel is controlling america, it is in fact very much the other way around. the ameircan mliitary industrial complex uses israel like a pitbull and a testbed. and whether in the next few years, decades or by the end of the 21st century the american military industrial complex will eventually find it useful to throw israel to the dogs in a bid by the MIC to either conquer the world, or save its own ass.
proxy colonial nations like south africa followed this same model. and while south africa was an agriculutral power house that allowed for a small group of whites to control hundreds times more of cheap labor, israel is not an agricultural powerhouse and increasingly finding itself struggling to maintain its majority of jews against arabs within her borders and occupied territories.
israel is NOT a very powerful country relative to turkey or iran in the long long run. she never will be . her mission is only to survive. and even that is difficult in a dynamic world with population growth rising rapidly amongst the poorest and dropping off a clif amongst the richest.
Time for the USSA to let ISIS steal some more military hardware,to combat this threat of Arab unity,and stability
Reformation of the remnants of the late period Ottoman Empire?
The fact that everyone keeps ignoring is that the Muslim Sunni and Shia hate each other even more than they hate the Jews and other 'infidels'.
The Sunni faction of Islam is much more fixated upon extermination of the shia and consolidation and domination of the trans-national socio-polictial Islamic order ( estabishment of the 'new Califate' ? ) before Islam turns it's full unified wrath upon Jews and 'infidels'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Shi'ism
"Anti-Shi'ism is the prejudice against or hatred of Shia Muslims based on their religion and heritage. The term was first defined by Shia Rights Watch in 2011, but has been used in formal research and scholarly articles for decades.[1][2]
The dispute over the right successor to Muhammad resulted in the formation of two main sects, the Sunni, and the Shia. The Sunni, or followers of the way, followed the caliphate and maintained the premise that any member of Quraish could potentially become the successor to the Prophet if accepted by the majority. The Shia however, maintain that only the person selected by God through the Prophet (Hadith of the pond of Khumm) could become his successor, thus Imam Ali became the religious authority for the Shia people. Militarily established and holding control over the Umayyad government, many Sunni rulers perceived the Shia as a threat – both to their political and religious authority.[3]
The Sunni rulers under the Umayyads sought to marginalize the Shia minority and later the Abbasids turned on their Shia allies and further imprisoned, persecuted, and killed Shias.[citation needed] The persecution of Shias throughout history by Sunni co-coreligionists has often been characterized by brutal and genocidal acts.[citation needed] Comprising only around 10-15% of the entire Muslim population, to this day, the Shia remain a marginalized community in many Sunni Arab dominant countries without the rights to practice their religion freely or to become established as an organized denomination.[4]
Historical Persecution Umayyads[edit]The grandson of Muhammad, Imam Hussein, refused to accept Yazid I's rule. Soon after in 680 C.E., Yazid sent thousands of Umayyad troops to lay siege to Hussein’s caravan. During the Battle of Karbala, after holding off the Umayyad troops for six days, Hussein and his seventy-two companions were killed, beheaded, and their heads were sent back to the caliph in Damascus. While Imam Hussein’s martydom ended the prospect of a direct challenge to the Umayyad caliphate, it also made it easier for Shiism to gain ground as a form of moral resistance to the Umayyads and their demands.[5]
"Under the peaceful conditions of life at Alexandria, the Greek philosophers certainty could continue their work. The political ferment in the eastern regions, however, was something else. Muawiyah had appointed al-Mughirah ibn-Shuvah as governor of al-Basrah, and when Mughirah died,Yazid became ruler of Arabia, Iraq, and Persia, ruling through a secret service of 4,000 men. The main purpose of these 4,000 was to unmask the Shiites, and bring them to justice, which in this case meant death. So while peace seems to reign in Damascus, the western half of the empire was soon bathed in blood."[6]
Abbasids (750-1258)[edit]The Abbasid caliphs who ruled from Baghdad imprisoned and killed Shia Imams and encouraged Sunni ulama to define Sunni power and contain the appeal of Shiism.[citation needed] The last decades of the tenth century witnessed anti-Shia campaigns in and around Baghdad.[citation needed] Shias were attacked in their mosques and during the day of Ashura processions often being killed or burned alive.[citation needed] In 971 C.E., when Byzantine forces attacked the Abbasid empire, the first response of the caliph’s forces and angry Sunnis was to blame the Shia.[citation needed] Shia homes in Al-Karkh (Modern-day Iraq) were burned.[citation needed] This pattern of behavior became repetitive and was repeated throughout the centuries to the present day.[citation needed] The Shia bore the forefront of popular frustrations with the failures of the Sunni rulers.[citation needed] They were usually treated as the enemy within and were the first to come under suspicion if there was a threat to the Sunni establishment.[citation needed] By the middle of the eleventh-century, it became custom for Sunni mobs to loot the Shia town of al-Khakh every Saturday.[citation needed]These anti-Shia attitudes were further propagated by Sunni jurists of the Hanbali school of thought.[citation needed] Hanbalis labeled Shias as rejectors of the truth.[7]
Siege of Baghdad[edit]After the Mongol sack of Baghdad in 1258, prejudice against Shias became more frequent, reminiscent of blaming Shias for every problem.[8]
Persecution under Seljuk/Ottoman Empire[edit] Main article: Ottoman persecution of AlevisIn response to the growth of Shiism, the Ottoman Empire killed shias in Anatolia. Hundreds of thousands of Shias were killed in the Ottoman Empire, including the Alevis in Turkey, the Alawis in Syria and the Shi'a of Lebanon.[9] "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide
"The Adana massacre of 1909
Main article: Adana massacreThe Armenian quarter of Adana left pillaged and destroyed after the massacres in Adana in 1909.
A countercoup took place in early 1909, ultimately resulting in the 31 March Incident on 13 April 1909. Some reactionary Ottoman military elements, joined by Islamic theologicalstudents, aimed to return control of the country to the Sultan and the rule of Islamic law. Riots and fighting broke out between the reactionary forces and CUP forces, until the CUP was able to put down the uprising and court-martial the opposition leaders.
While the movement initially targeted the Young Turk government, it spilled over into pogroms against Armenians who were perceived as having supported the restoration of the constitution.[25]:68–9 When Ottoman Army troops were called in, many accounts record that instead of trying to quell the violence they actually took part in pillaging Armenian enclaves in Adana province.[31] The number of Armenians killed in the course of the Adana massacre ranged between 15,000 and 30,000 people.[25]:69[32]
The Balkan WarsIn 1912, the First Balkan War broke out and ended with the defeat of the Ottoman Empire as well as the loss of 85% of its European territory. Many in the empire saw their defeat as "Allah's divine punishment for a society that did not know how to pull itself together".[25]:84 The Turkish nationalist movement in the country gradually came to view Anatolia as their last refuge. That the Armenian population formed a significant minority in this region would figure prominently in the calculations of the Three Pashas, who would eventually carry out the Armenian Genocide.
An important consequence of the Balkan Wars was also the mass expulsion of Muslims (known as muhacirs) from the Balkans. In fact, beginning in the mid-19th century, hundreds of thousands of Muslims, including Turks, Circassians, and Chechens, were expelled or forced to flee from the Caucasus and the Balkans (Rumelia) as a result of the Russo-Turkish wars and the conflicts in the Balkans. Muslim society in the empire was incensed by this flood of refugees. A journal published in Constantinople expressed the mood of the times: "Let this be a warning ... O Muslims, don't get comfortable! Do not let your blood cool before taking revenge".[25]:86 As many as 850,000 of these refugees were settled in areas where the Armenians were resident from the period of 1878–1904. The muhacirs resented the status of their relatively well-off neighbors and, as historian Taner Akçam and others have noted, the refugees would come to play a pivotal role in the killings of the Armenians and the confiscation of their properties during the genocide.[25]:86–87 "
WOW.....i Knew facts are sacred other places. Thanks for links.
Amazed and Dazed
Turkey Slipped in the Grease and landed in the Shia now makes sense in light of the Balkan war.
Don't know if anyone remembers the childhood memory trick for Geography. Probably someone's Grandfather passed down some info about Shia and Turkey and Greater Balkan Peninsula History.
Anyway I remember hearing it from a kid in Geography class when I was like 9 years old.
The neocons have wanted to take on Iran forever. Now that the Obama administration is moving closer to Iran, the neocons want to turn Yemen into a proxy Saudi-Iran war. The Saudi princes understand that the necons are f ing crazy and the necons will allow Saudi Arabia to be trashed to make the point that Iran should be bombed. When is the kast time you saw Saudi Arabia get off it's ass and actually fight? The US is promoting it's oil industry with expensive technologies, do you think big oil cares if Saudi oil comes off the market? BTW big oil is neocon. I don't think this situation will just go away.
Iran agrees to trade oil in USD and US agree to allows Nukes; Saudi Arabia is displaced as the House of Saud falls; meanwhile Saudi's invade Yemen for what reason exactly? This is insanity; actually just gross immorality.
This is a distraction; better look the other direction for the real "act".
Another cycle of rearmament, in preparation for another cycle of war, best observed through the lens of Strauss & Howe.
Arabs uniting by Western installed puppet governments to murder other Arabs; what can go wrong?
8,000 tanks between Iran / Iraq & Syria plus almost 1 million men!
Shiites would be formidable in protecting their interests
Doesnt work that way.
War is only possible because of governments that refuse to represent those they claim to - that would be ALL of them, BTW
About time. See what happens when the US (Obama) shows he isn't going to do there job for them. US neocons are pissed, fuck'm.
Get ready for the daring adventures of Camel Force Oil...
One side circumcises the boys,the other side circumcises the girls.
SEEMS LIKE SOMEONE HAS A DIRTY MIND!
What was that line in the Movie Patton?
"Give me a week and I'll have a war going with the Russkies,and make it look like their fault!".
Arabs dont circumcise girls, only Africoons do. Arabs circumcise their boys though, at 13 years old. Ghastly.
Huh? So you count Egyptians as Africans?
"According to a survey in the year 2000, a study found that 97% of the country's population still practiced FGM; a 2005 study found that over 95% of Egyptian women have undergone some form of FGM.[74]" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_female_genital_mutilation_by_...)
And I don't think most people think of Yemen as being Africa: "Sana'a Governorate, which includes the capital of Yemen, has a prevalence rate of 46%.[156" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_female_genital_mutilation_by_...)
And the United Arab emirates? "The WHO mentions a study that documents FGM in the United Arab Emirates, but does not provide data.[157][183] The practice is reportedly prevalent in rural and urban UAE.[184]) In a 2011 survey, 34% of Emirati female respondents said they were circumcised, and explained the practice to customs and tradition.[26]"
Here's a lovely story (/s) from Kurdistan: http://www.stopfgmmideast.org/a-kurdish-girls-story-of-female-genital-mu...
1) The "global elites" already own the planet (with "regional elites" systemically "tied" to the the "global elites" by their common interests and the global "cash flows"; the individual difficulties between these "exploiting eites/clasess" do not outweigh their common interests), and the global market volumes have already reached their possible limits, making the of "intra-redistribution" senseless, so it cannot be a point of a war.
2) The main problem of our time is a crisis of management/control by the "elites", as the ancient management structures" with their vertical/hierarchical architecture, which worked for thousand years, became useless with their current "negative effectiviness" (the cost of maintenance of "elites" has greatly exceed the backbone benefit from their existence, since the "elites" cannot cope with the increased complexity of society and business/production processes and the "vertical" governance structure is not capabable of producing control actions in real-time).
So, the main point pursued by the "elites" is simplifying the control object, i.e. their own society/citizens.
E.g. the deliberate dumbification/dismantling of the educational system, which "happened" in the 60's in the West and was later repeated in the 90's in the former Eastern Bloc (that's why most western sheeple younger than fifty years are hopeless morons with their non-systemic and fragmented view of the world, no offense, since same applies to the twenty-twenty five year olds and younger in the rest of the world), along with population (i.e. complexity) control measures such as feminism, [homo]sexual revolution etc. were just the initial steps, but now it's time for a global war.
So, a bunch of global everlasting conflicts with sheeple killing each other on both sides will greatly help the "elites".
PS
Expect more movies like Fury with imbeciles like Brad Pitt promoting fake pariotism and fantasy movies like Harry Potter/Hobbit aimed against the systemic/engineering education and the technological changes.
Well said.
Actually, Christ owns everything and He determines the course of history and He is the only reason there exists hope for the future; especially for those who recognize their reprobate condition and seek to doing something positive about it and do.
1) The original Christian sources were destroyed long ago. Christianity in its current form is just one of the three Abrahamic Religions, and like Islam, it's a religion for slaves. Judaism, on the other hand, is an instruction manual for the slave owners:
Deuteronomy 15:6
[...]
For the LORD thy God blesseth thee, as he promised thee: and thou shalt lend unto many nations, but thou shalt not borrow; and thou shalt reign over many nations, but they shall not reign over thee.
[...]
Wasn't it the whole point of capitalism for the "elites" to accumulate almost all the wealth on this planet? Now Kapitalism and the middle class are not needed anymore.
2) Talking about Abrahamic religions... there was another one, in fact. Karl Marx's "maiden name" was Moses Mordecai Levi Marx, no wonder Kommunism ideas were borrowed from the Talmud/Torah.
Arab militaries are paper tigers. Their funny lists of rotting planes and tanks dont mean anything. Their troops are abused illiterates, the officers are good for nothing playboys with a deep love for purchasing expensive weapon systems they never care to maintain or learn how to operate.
benjamin
benny baby how good was your mighty israheil
How Hezbollah Defeated Israel
Reports from Lebanon underscore this point. Much to their surprise, Hezbollah commanders found that Israeli troops were poorly organized and disciplined. The only Israeli unit that performed up to standards was the Golani Brigade, according to Lebanese observers. The IDF was "a motley assortment", one official with a deep knowledge of US slang reported. "But that’s what happens when you have spent four decades firing rubber bullets at women and children in the West Bank and Gaza."
http://www.counterpunch.org/2006/10/13/how-hezbollah-defeated-israel/
Hezbollah is not an "official" arab army. It is a people's militia.
the arab must build armies.
must use the useful country tools of history.
the saudi,qatari,whorish turk bastard pimp for hire egypt.
a mighty zionist army funded by the jewish house of saud.
ideas and strategum from tel aviv,city of london and demonic washington.
for yinon plan to suceed history must be zero
the ancient destroyed
communities depleted uranium killed or scattered to the winds.
do not blame the refugee in your community
for he flees the tora and the talmoo.
do not hate him for he soon will be dead from monsanto roundup and vaccine sv40 mercury monkey virus.
a glaxo smithklein vaccine for life
however short that will be.
When Israel Is Mightyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSy6ENVAJlY
If you look closely at some mideastern Navy vessels you will notice they are highly automated,being designed
to operate with a minimum crew.No one wants to be a stoker,everyone wants to be an Admiral.
Should they enter battle and sustain casualties,where do they make up the manpower?
Much of the Mena is composed of peasants sitting on the fence to see who wins.
The Saudis might have the hi-tech toys but the Iranians have the tough ground troops.
The ISIS crowd are a bunch of wannabes who are being fed battlefield Intel from the western spook mob.
They get no glory for taking over abandonded cities.This is the price the west pays for leaving Saddams army
unemployed.Pay each of them what a Blackwater Merc makes and you will see some enthusiasum.
Many posters here and on other blogs have stated that "the plan seems like chaos and disunity everywhere".
I have to agree.There seems to be a "Kissinger touch" here ("We wish that both sides would fail").
U.S. 50,000,000,000 and that doesn't count the Pentagon's "shadow budget" estimated to be another $25,000,000,000 in 2015. Nor does it count the militarization of the "Homeland".
http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/ashton-carter-military-leade...
Where is the chart of increasing military budget to loss of liberties; should look like a big "X".
So who controls all those Yemeni tanks now?
Let's see now...
All Persians hate all Arabs and all Arabs hate all Persians.
All Sunnis hate all Shiites and all Shiites hate all Sunnis.
All Arabs hate all Jews.
All Persians hate all Jews
All Jews hate all Arabs and all Persians.
All Arabs change sides at the drop of a hat.
All US military suppliers give weapons to Israel and sell weapons to all Arabs.
All of the rest of the world sells weapons to Persians.
This pan-Arab military thing... what could go wrong?
AAaaaaaaaa-hab, the AAaaaaaaaaa-rab, sheik of the burning sands.........
Hey Jabbar, where you goin' with that gun in your hand....
Gee, on the surface terrorist Israel isn't in on the coalition, imagine that?
Even as the jewesses love to ride the goy bologna (100% genuine pork product), I have to admit that goyim remain dumb as shit.
Interesting to note how controlling the Middle East was always essential to winning the original Risk board game.
What? Yemen military is ranked eighth and can't control there own country What's thay say about those below them. Bad chart.