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2015 Or 1987? Computerized Trading & "A Crash Is Coming" Or Rates Mean "Bull's Not Over"
1987 Or 2015?
"They are not real buyers and sellers... these are computers that drive the markets down extremely fast..."
"A crash is coming..."
"A correction will prompt rate cuts which will ensure The Bull Market is not over..."
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It's never different this time... The Friday night before Black Monday 1987...
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A global sovereign debt crisis after October 1st?
>>>>. Casino
>>>>. Market
IT'S A FUCKIN CASINO AND THE HOUSE ALWAYS WINS!
Yea and cramer was a bald, short ugly J in '87 too
Pretty sure it's a casino when Chinese high school drop outs are ramping the Shanghai exchange.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-31/china-s-big-stock-market-rally-is-being-fueled-by-high-school-dropouts
The FROGS continue to cook in the near boiling water... AND DON'T EVEN KNOW IT. The situation is getting out of hand, and the best the MSM can do is provide BEARISH forecasts for gold and silver. I find this simply hilarious.
While the Fed & Central Banks focus on rigging the Gold Market, their real threat is the tiny SILVER MARKET:
BANKING CARTELS’ REAL ENEMY: Physical Silver Investment Demandhttp://srsroccoreport.com/banking-cartels-real-enemy-physical-silver-investment-demand/banking-cartels-real-enemy-physical-silver-investment-demand/
Can you say "Heinz" in a hurry?
It's even worse than a casino with a house advantage. In this casino, the big players get to secretly read the little player's cards and bet against them.
the shemitah year will not disappoint...
"when Chinese high school drop outs are ramping the Shanghai exchange... "
wait, are you saying ivy-leaque-trainees are more prudent?
or, are you saying they're backed by the returnees in the back (boardroom)?
ah....the good old days....
the shemitah year will not disappoint...
please give us ample warning when "Friday" is approaching...
excellent report...keep on stackin while you still can...
Big question is whether the woman on the TV was fired on Monday for being oh so wrong?
A wrong assumption beginners always make. Your odds are much better at a casino , plus you can get some descent food and if you're lucky , some nice piece of ass from the blackjack table.
I've been trading the market long enough to know that you never get any of that. You only eat what you kill , and suffice to say i'm pretty slim.
I think they forgot that volatility tends to cluster.... it is always natural for humans to think the worst is over after the big "whatever" hits... whether it be the north wall of a hurricane, first wave of a tsunami, first shockwave of an earthquake.... everything in nature and mostly in markets tends to suggest that volatility clusters and if day 't' volatility is high then t+1 tends to be relatively high..... and of course it tends to have mean reverting characteristics too, right now I believe we are in one of those clusters, expect big losses in the Dow this and next week.
Crisis is now, can kicking regimen in place
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Sucking cocks for a living is not a good way to go about life, son.
SKYNET WILL ALLOW NO CRASH
Good thing SkyNet is still laying on its back, cooing.
When it learns to run, we will have real problems.
No crash this time folks.....12 Month, market holiday instead.
thought Zirp is bad.....I'll take cash
I always thought I would be part of the human resistance to fight Skynet.
Now? I'll help the computer point to where to bomb first. Fuck these humans.
On a side note: the fun starts on 9.30.2015.
Shemittah and shit.....
The real fun begins in July and August.
The crescendo will happen on 9/13.
Shemitah and shit...
And there will be a lot of shit bricks stinking up the ruins.
Ahhh! 1987... when there were actually rates to cut...
Coke, Porsches and Rubik's Cubes....twas the golden age of Wall Street!
Was, being the oprative word here.
Big hair and leg warmers too!!
bush, too
Were'nt there Pepsi's too?
the eighties were the last of the golden age of everything in the usa.
i still can't visit times square since they disneyfied it.
Yeah well imagine working there for 7 years as I did. I am very far away now in a rural Ohio town that has friendly cops, two gun stores downtown next to the metal dealer, gun range you can hear on the weekends from a mile away and a garden I need to get going next week with some germination. I gotta redo my fence though. Fuckin' deer picked me clean of my maters, but not too bad for a city boy on his first garden.
Yep! You could borrow 180 day money at 26%, and they were falling over themselves to give it to you.
Back when we made toasters and T.V.'s, and before we completely sold out to China.
The computer graphics at the beginning were cute; I'd wager those people would be shocked by the algo's and the market "breaks" whenever there is a dip.
Not to mention the repeal of Glass-Steagall, and the abject corruption of the bail outs and the ensuing insanity of Central Banks.
Somehow it is seen as normal...or plastered over as such.
I remember when we had actual manufacturing plants, everywhere. and you didn't need a college degree to get a good job. Enough salary to pay rent, party and drive a nice car.
"But before we all turn the color of Smurfs..."
Or muppets.
Yaa!!!! I had to give the clip a big thumbs up, for that little acknowledgement of the interest the '80s had in the Smurfs ....
Just Smurfy...
Lou!! You magnificent bastard!
He got while the gettin' was good- 2006.
Lou~ciferians!
Did someone mention to buy the dip? Guacamole please!
nothing new about HFT... only losers find mythical stories to place the blame....
Prescient...
Here's what's fucked up - the capitalist establishment can dictate fed policy simply by employing a concerted market sell-off at key moments, much like a pilot fish could make a great white shark follow HIM around by using the scent of blood. Both have been swimming in a mutually favorable direction for quite some time.
ha
I worked on that show in the 80's. at Maryland Public TV
Before CNBC, it was FNN on cable --- who watches cable. Back when Ma and Pa Investor tuned into Lou every fri nite for advice.
here's the following friday show, after the crashPt 1, when they rolled out the Big Wall Street Guys for a Special
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFn1G2goDQw
Long live Marty Zweig!
marty zweig for the win!
Thanks, you had at least one faithful watcher, out of WGBH, Boston.
Wow ...what memories. Even the opening music and intros. I watched faithfully from the 1970's. Way before computers, internet, algos, ect. Louie, Marty, Mary Farrell..knew them all through the program.
Yeah Iz, I followed the 'after' series too - hilarious.
BUT, if you had put all your fucking money into the market the day after the crash and sat on it, the market went from 1700ish to 17000 ish these days...and I did put a bunch more spare change in at that time -into computer stocks. (Compaq) Remember talking to my Dentist that Friday about not selling his APPL, which took a big hit. He didn't. He's retired now, very comfortably...
Timing is everything...
I believe it's gonna bust big time. Keep your powder dry.
Oh, and buy a few more PMs while you wait.
Was it Confuscious who said something like, "If you say the market will crash every day for 50 years, you will be correct maybe twice." ?
I thought Confuscious said "Man who go to bed with itchy butt wake with smelly finger."
Noooooo
He said he who stick cock in tailpipe has HotRod
Notice how throughout the almost 10 minute discussion, there was NOT A SINGLE MENTION of what the Federal Reserve might or might not do.
My, how things have changed.
Things changed exactly 3 days after that show.
That was really scary. The similarities are amazing.
Hmm, sorta, kinda, not really but yeah.
Every single time a market starts down it shuts down.
There will be no crash until THE crash. And that won't be anything like the good ol' days.
Fuck the crash, there is something wicked this way coming... a crash will probably be the trigger. Operation Jade Helm 15 is fucking creepy. You do not train in an urban enviro within the USA, while saying its for foreign ops. I call bullshit.
Recently a buddy of mine, who was a 2nd in charge to base commander, retired after indicating they were actually interviewing officers for commands - question was, would you fire on civies... most said yes... those that said no were passed over. He said no, and is getting as far away from a city as humanly possible.
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Oh pisha. They might be training for Moscow. Considering Russia has nukes to defend itself, that worries me more. I think we can defend ourselves against the mil. I don't think we can do that against nukes.
See, green shoots.
1987 - PPT
2015 - HFT
Is it just me or does it seem that when one administration is handling things over to the next they try to leave them with the biggest possible load of sh*t to sort out?!?
On the one hand they all seem to be working together: Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama are all pushing the same agenda, only with different slants and nuances. Evidence suggests that there is coordination at the top ... they only play different games to achieve it.
So, whether you believe in a 394 week cycle, or the election year cycle or the Shemitah ... there seems to be evidence of the cycle.
Not a bad premise, but you should start at Washinton, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Adams.
first Adams, yes.
Of course that has become the case. You need a crisis to make big bold changes. Better to be able to blame those leaving than those coming.
Seriously, you didn't realize they are all on the same team (sort of) and do as their are told in their little marionette way?
Big Bold Crisis. Look at how the Japanese were 'encouraged' to attack us (over the U.S. pulling out the oil..) - Pearl Harbor -- the U.S. President knowing that he HaD to get the Japs to attack .. otherwise, Congress would never vote to enter WWII.
200 points!
It moves that on a quiet day now
200 is the new 25.
brought to us by companies with great futures...none of which still exist....even the names are gone....and the buildings...time can be a killer...
Crash like 1987, you say that like it's bad. In fact, I really don't like to be teased with chum and then not fed the main course.
You know it would be helpful if you could narrow that time line down to the month. I would like to save up some cash for that buying opportunity. I made a lot of money after the 1987 crash.
Oh! And...ah, if you could just ..you know, buy the eFF'ing dip, That Would Be Great ... M'kay?
Funny to hear about huge moves of 91 points.
You know what this market is like, the online poker
with fake chips. I rais $100,000. LOL
Cramer looks like a pedophile to us.
Who? Whaa? Cramer the Kike? No way!
Does anyone really think we can have a crash? In a market, yes, this is a system. The Fed panics after a 2 percent decline, any selloff will be met by the Fed buying . . . they are now comfortable that there is no market to hold them accountable. If need be they will print the entire value of the stock market and buy it, like real estate paper like bonds, etc . . . wtf is going on?
>>>>>> STOCK MARKET
>>>>>> WHORE HOUSE
Now now, Whore houses provide a product that's in demand! :>D
Buy dividend aristocrats at or near 52 week lows.
Collect dividends and reinvest in more dividend yielding securities.
Never sell.
If you or I bought in 87 and never sold, the compound return over the years would have been enough to live on for life. Even if you owned Kodak or Enron, a diversified portfolio would have solidly weathered the storms over the decades. Junk me for saying something other than buy precious metals and keep cash under the bed.
buying them after the crash will be the opportunity of a lot of people's lifetime.
Agreed. At this point prepare the best you can for the crash.
Either zero debt or up to the gills in debt. L0L
Reminds me of that Warren Buffet quote from a few years back - “Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful”
Nobody became freeby millionaires by buying fixed income in the 80's because they were all too greedy about stocks/afraid of inflation. Now no one is afraid of inflation, but how do you capitalize on that without relying on securities that wont be backed if youre right? Gold? Cant go all in on an illiquid metal that our government will outlaw.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnddd .. IT'S GONE!
hike soon or nirp later.
Hm... If I would be in charge I would program these computers in a way that the system never crashes, especially under present circumstances...
Heebs were in charge back then as well, in case anyone thinks it's a recent development
>>>Stock market crash
>>>Bond market crash
What is more likely to crash in the next couple of years?
neither. the west is feeding the entire world on zirp/nirp. there is still not enough business to stave off starvation so bonds will not burst.
all that money being fed into the system is being invested in the things that hold value historically, art, real estate, gems, gold, silver, equities and bonds. all of those items are experiencing classic inflation, too much money chasing too few things to buy. the only way the market crashes is if the supply of money to the investors in the market slows down or a concensus among investors decide to all go short or sell outright(where will they put that money?). besides almost all trading is algo trading so fear and greed have been removed as the arbitrator of value. as with all inflation the prices rarely come back all the way without a currency adjustment. there will be no stock market crash
my new theory is the bots will bump along in a tight channel until earnings catch up with a dollar adjustment floating the boat.
Of course the woman is wrong; she probably when to the Federal Reserve School of Economics
Cramer the KIke, pumping the goy for his fellow bankster heebs. Par for the course. I said he was a cheap used car salesman the first time I saw his kike ass on TV. I saw right through his fraudtalk BS straight away. We need to start a list of all the kikes that are working to tank the markets and fraud the Goy and put it out there for those unnamed heros that visit fraudsters with nailguns.
We'll call it Swindlers List
http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/A+smart+man_6dd693_4860978.jpg
Is the truth about jew laws so embarrassing? What is there to hide? Why if a jew is called a jew they cry anti-semite? That is there to be ashamed of?
...a LONG history of deception
Christ threw them out of the temple for money changing
Shakespere wrote the "Merchant of Venice" not on a whim, but real world inspiration.
The Magna Carta protected against their brand of usury.
Below are a few examples even written in their native tongue. Read it all!!! These are from one of their own websites!!!
----->> http://www.aishdas.org/avodah/faxes/mmOnNachriim.pdf <<-----
"If a Jew is chasing a gentile in order to murder him, it is forbidden to kill the Jew in
order to save the gentile, even if there is no other way to save the gentile's life. A
person who kills the Jewish pursuer in order to save the gentile's life must be put to
death. But if a gentile (or a Jew) is chasing a Jew in order to murder him, one must
kill the pursuer in order to save the pursued person (if there is no other way to save
his life). This law applies to a ger toshav as well.
Sources:
Minchat Chinuch commandment 600"
"2.2) In a commercial transaction, if a Jew charges an exorbitant price or conceals the
low quality of the goods from a gentile customer he does not owe the gentile any
compensation (as he would owe a Jewish customer). According to some opinions, it
appears that this law is not applied to a ger toshav; it is forbidden to cheat him and
therefore he must be compensated if he is cheated. In any case, it is clear that if a
gentile charges an exorbitant price or conceals the low quality of the goods from a
Jewish customer, he owes the Jew compensation.
Sources:
Babylonian Talmud Tractate Bechorot 13b
Maimonides, Laws of Sales 13:7
Tur Choshen Mishpat 227:30
Shulchan Aruch Choshen Mishpat 227:26
Minor Tractates, Tractate Gerim chapter 3
Palestinian Talmud Tractate Yevamot chapter 8 8d:1"
"2.3) When a Jew owes money to a gentile who has passed away, the Jew is not obliged
to repay the debt to the heirs, provided the latter do not know about the debt. If the
heirs ask the Jew whether he owed money to the deceased, it is even permissible to lie
to them and deny the debt (provided the Jew knows for sure that they do not know
about the debt, so that the name of G-d will not be profaned by his lie).
Sources:
Shulchan Aruch Choshen Mishpat 283:1
Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 182:4 (uncensored edition included on the DBS version 9 CD)"
There are many more enlightening things on that PDF file for you (the GOYIM) to read
Read ALL of it to understand how deceptive and knifing they really are.
In the 1970s I was training with Rank Xerox here in UK and learned about the 'ethics of selling'. It was made clear that to be successful in sales one had to display 'HAGS' when dealing with customers/prospects. This acronym is for: Honesty, Authenticity, Genuineness and Sincerity. RX was very ethical in those days and insisted that if we, as salesmen, did not believe that the customer would benefit from the proposed RX solution, we were to say so and help the prospect find an alternative solution suited to his needs.
The message here is clear; it's about rules (laws) and how we each apply them as part of our individual cultures. What is acceptable for one person is not for another. When I was in Egypt I discovered that it was quite acceptable for a man to 'stab another in the back when he's not looking!' In my business dealings I had to be aware that this type of approach would conflict with my own ideas of 'Queensbury Rules' which I learned in my early years. Another one is: 'my word is my bond' again I have applied this in all my dealings sometimes to my own detriment.
Your examples of the Jewish 'rules' or laws are yet other cases of conflicts between cultures. Clearly they have their own way of dealing with business affairs which are quiet alien to us in the West. This principle may also apply to our wayward banksters who truly believe that they are doing nothing wrong according to their Wall Street culture; doesn't make it right though!
As the market is all based on digital datastreams, the answer is as simple as the Fed vis a vis the NSA taking control of the the price datastreams to hide the crashing.
America's favorite color or colour is Blue ;) ... Will that last?
Fire, Fire - Is this place crowded enough, Martin Zweig?
Computers back then - whole introduction makes it looks like War Games, just waiting for Matthew Broderick to show up with Joshua trading. Strange game; the only way to win is not to play.
No point to the market, just go to the casino or flip bitcoins back and forth with a bot.
When I look at a candle stick chart, I see "red , Green, Red, Green , Red, Red ,Red,Red, Green"
When I go the casino and sit at a baccarat machine I see "Red, Red, Red, Blue,Blue,Blue"
What is the difference?
Ill tell you what the difference is. . .
Free Drinks at the Casino.
7$ Trades at the market.
If they would just allow me to bring a robot to the casino and park it at a table 24/7 , I would program it to sit there and do nothing but wait for long banker streaks (8~12 banker wins in a row) and then to start doubling against the banker....win.... and then wait again for another ridiculous streak to bet against.
But since they wont, and I don't have the time to camp it out at the casino.... I am contempt winning or losing instantly ^^ . . .
This is the logic people should enter the market with. . . except we don't . . . because some privileged "traders" are botting the market as if it was a baccarat table, it just ruins the game. . . people park there money in the markets and feel cheated . . . and used.
Am i the only one? I really really miss WSW.
It had a certain class about it that's missing these days.
Loved the show. Crap they look young. And I am now older than Lou was in that episode. Geesh!
SNL does Wall Street Week
"Friday October 23rd, 1987"
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/wall-street-week/n9623
Wow back when people invested. Now it truly is a ponzi scheme of accounting tricks and fraudlent scams... The system is broken beyond repair....and a LARGE RESET will happen. The crooks don't even trust each other...and they all know it is based on cheating and piles of debt that can't be paid off
Whenever you see a flash crash, the top of the real market is somewhere below the flash bottom.
Yo. There can't be a crash anymore. The FEDs jacked in and that is that. Obama's and other's public statments also testify to the fact that the FED's software controls the markets. Think about it from a logical perspective if you have no inside sources. BTFD until you see the mushroom clouds bitchez.
DEBT BOMB - The Global Financial Crisis Stripped Bare by Dominic Frisby
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXcLVDhS8fM (3:30)
Interesting that it was the woman that foresaged the crash and its aftermath.
Would pay serious change to watch Yellen & Musk jump
The situation is even worse than in 1987. The algo trading system in ’87 had only indirectly, due to the open-outcry, limited access to some US and European (mostly equity) markets, now a day they have on limited in real-time digital access to all the global financial markets (in all the possible and imaginable financial products) . If it go down this time it will be more than a global mess.
Americans never have learned a lesson ever. 1987 was a positieve year for the DOW.
thanks ZH for sharing the video - I hadn't signed into that yt account since I posted all of those videos so many years ago.
I updated tags and with a thx to you in the description (zh from z0)
(never did get around to posting excerpts from the untold hundreds of hours of tape from then and CNBC circa 1999-2003)
cheers