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Obama Makes Statement On Iran "Deal" - Live Webcast
Update: here is the statement by Obama, not to be confused with the statement Netanyahu is about to make and which may be measured in the kilotons.
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In the same style as we have grown used to around the world, a major negotiation has ended with all sides claiming victory and no sides offering any actual solutions. Iran proclaims the talks have made "significant progress," yet Western diplomats are saying progress is "limited," only to be confused even more by Iran's Foreign Minister stating that "but still we have not agreed on the reviewed solutions." So in summing it all up, a press conference will be held shortly to explain that 'they agree on the outline of a plan which will pave the way for an agreement but aren't sure how much of the plan or hypothetical agreement they want to share'. New normal geopolitics... no deal is the new deal.
Nuclear talks between the Iranian delegation and foreign ministers of the P5+1 group might bear fruit on Thursday, RT reports, if the sides manage to agree certain solutions.
Western negotiators are saying progress is 'limited.'
However, Reuters cited Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif as saying: "We have made significant progress in the talks, but still we have not agreed on the reviewed solutions."
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The meeting has been going on through the night between US Secretary of State John Kerry and his Iranian counterpart.
The German and French foreign ministers are also present, as well as the UK foreign secretary and European Union negotiator Helga Schmid.
The foreign ministers of China, Russia and France left the country on Tuesday after the initial deadline passed, saying they would return when necessary.
“We are a few meters from the finishing line, but it’s always the last meters that are the most difficult. We will try and cross them,” French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said in Switzerland on Wednesday night when he returned to negotiations.
Iran and and six world powers have agreed on the outlines of an understanding that would open the path to a final phase of nuclear negotiations but are in a dispute over how much to make public, officials told AP.
Good heavens, this is embarrassing. RT @johntabin lol http://t.co/FeGt3p1pvA pic.twitter.com/U5w6im7Xmu
— Curtis Kalin (@CurtisKalin) April 2, 2015
Got it?
So both sides are cornered by their domestic needs to save face and international reputations...
Pressured by congressional critics in the U.S. who threaten to impose new sanctions on Iran over what they say is a bad emerging deal, the Obama administration is demanding significant public disclosure of agreements and understandings reached at the current round. But the officials say Iran wants a minimum made public.
Iranian leaders are opposed to two agreements, saying previous two-stage negotiations were detrimental to their interests. They results reached in the Swiss city of Lausanne as less than a deal and more of an informal understanding.
The officials demanded anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss the negotiations publicly.
They spoke after senior diplomats from the six countries negotiating with Iran huddled overnight in strategy sessions meant to advance the pace of agonizingly slow nuclear talks. Iran's foreign minister said the sides were close to a preliminary agreement, but not yet there.
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And then there's the Neocons...
"It is clear, the negotiations are not going well," Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina said in a statement.
"At every step, the Iranians appear intent on retaining the capacity to achieve a nuclear weapon."
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Summing it all up... a process that started in February 2013 has now been extended yet again from another self-imposed deadline to June 30... Guess what happens next?
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Ambassador Seyed Hossein Mousavian will report on the outcome and consequences of the latest round of negotiations on the Iranian nuclear program that concluded on March 31, 2015.
And here's the Press Conference (due to start at 1pm ET) where this will all be spun as somehow a victory...
John Kerry's Statement Live...
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"Failure Spun As Success"
Welcome to Dear Leader Obama's incompetent, dangerous, narcissistic, gang.
As the "news" media lap it up and praising their failures.
George carlin on politician double talk...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oFY0l63JYI
"Most governments are usually, and all governments are sometimes inexpedient." HDT
This deal is about getting nukes for Iran so they can balance the power of Saudi Arabia in the region. This also spurs US weapons sales in the region as well.
Iran deal reached - news on ZH in 3 days
Run! Runa away!!
So, no happy meal ?
Saudi Ambassador to the US has announced that the Houthis have taken possession of Yemen’s ballistic missiles.
This is some gewd shit…I am runnin’ outta popcorn… ;-)
Looney
Ok boys, now that Iran agreement or whatever has been struck, time for a drinking game. Better call Uber now....
When Obama finally speaks, you must drink for every "I", "My", or "Me". YOU MUST HAVE AT LEAST 2 CASES OF BEER TO ACCOMPLISH THIS FEAT.
if hillary gets trust on her server, of course iran deserves trust
#IranNukesMatter
"New normal geopolitics... no deal is the new deal."
Even better, No deal is a good deal.
"Mr. Vice President, Mr. Secretary, the missiles are flying. Hallelujah. Hallelujah."
P5 plus 1 your ass!
If you like your uggly ass ketchup heiress wife, you can keep your uggly ass ketchup heiress wife.
nope.
it isn't.
Thanks negative nelly, now will you enlighten us?
.... lies and more ies from the gubmitlying politikturds.... the fudgepacker is so desparte to get a deal it doesn't giveashit about what the details are... just like Cuba, just like the 5 terrorist muslims for a deserter.... the despicable incompetent corrupt arrogant narcissitic illegal indonesian kenyan alien muslim sociopathic pathologic liar is intent on destroying the country before it runs out of time... and on top of that it doesn't care who gets hurt as long as it gets to continue to live its celebrity grand imperial golf lifestyle on the backs of tax paying US citizen serfs and peasants.... and the idiotic voters and stupid elected congressional and senatorial ruling political elite turds let it get away with whatever it wants.... jeez....
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Can we get some pictures of Persian beauties up in this thread?
Damn made me look www.beauty-around.com/en/tops/item/976-most-beautiful-iranian-women
All I can do is surrender and make peace*
*love, but i'm not sure if that is allowed
... the sound of the fudgepacker's voice is like the sound of long uncut fingernails scraped over and over on a blackboard....
Nuke up 'da Persians 'an let 'da gud times roll!
"a war with iran is at the top of the israel to-do list"
Since Israëls inception Israël is at war
This right here is a better deal!
http://politicalvelcraft.org/2014/05/25/another-banker-dead-iran-executes-rothschild-billionaire-on-2-6-billion-bank-fraud-used-fraudulent-funds-to-implement-agenda-21-in-buying-state-property/
Iran is merely trying to find out exactly how stupid Obutthead and ketchup-boy are, and apparently the answer is pretty damned stupid......
I was wondering why crude is down with the dollar being so weak.
They will agree to nothing but to meet again on June 1st, export sanctions will remain in place and then crude oil will soar is my guess.
Rumors and rumors of rumors, this won't end well.....
Baffle the public with bullshit.
One thing for sure - a lot of diplomats just had two weeks of well catered vacation time in Switzerland.
Fuck me ebworthen, "One thing for sure - a lot of diplomats just had two weeks of well catered vacation time in Switzerland."
That is one of the first things i think when these *uckers meet
"Lt John Kerry reporting for duty" is on the case. The outcome is certain - complete shite
In the world of perpetual QE nothing ever gets done.
A lot of people assume that the Israelis/Zionists/neocons want a deal with Iran that will prevent Iran from having a breakout capacity.
These people are wrong.
The Israelis and neocons don't want these talks to succeed which is why Israel has ensured that the goalposts have been constantly moved - the "just one more thing" tactic they use with Palestinians as they continue to build Jewish only roads and settlements.
They want nothing short of regime change, to eliminate Iran's support for Hezbollah [and its ability to prevent an Israeli occupation and annexation, de facto, to the Litani] and, most of all, to degrade Iran as an economic rival, and as any kind of force that can resist Israeli expansion.
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islam...
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2013/06/the-machiavelian-threefold-game-of-the-...
http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/future
^^^hat tip to ragnar redux for the last link, which provides extra support for what should be obvious - this isn't some 'antisemitic conspiracy theory' but sourced from right wing and religious Zionist position papers, some based explicitly on religious texts - though those texts are largely horseshit as legitimate history.
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/chosen-people.html
Negotiations in the 'Modern' era -
World Powers -- we are asking you to do something we know you don't want to do, but don't worry, we don't want you to get mad at us so nothing bad will happen if you don't.
Iran -- we are going to do whatever we want, we don't care what you want, and we are not worried about your threats.
Both - we have a framework and are moving closer to a deal.
We fistbumped some folks.
We fistfucked some folks. - fixed it.
yeah - Iran has every right to civilian nuclear technology under the NPT. In fact, the US is supposed to *help* them.
Meanwhile, it is unlawful for the US to sell arms {or "sell"} to countries with nukes that refuse inspections or to sign the NPT...
like Israel.
But just as AIPAC simply refused to register as a foreign agent, despite multiple times being caught spying for Israel...
Israel is above the law, and the hasbara trolls could not care one bit about the fact.
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On Iran, an Unsmoking Nongun
Nuclear report doesn’t say what media want it to
"he release of a United Nations report on Iran’s nuclear program in early November was, according to much of the corporate media, the long-awaited confirmation of something many outlets had already treated as established fact: Iran is working on a nuclear weapon. You would have a hard time figuring out that the report from the International Atomic Energy Agency did not actually arrive at that conclusion.
As has happened with past IAEA reports on Iran, some coverage presented a sneak preview of the supposed conclusions, based on leaks from sources intent on portraying Iran in a more negative light. On CBS Evening News (11/7/11), Scott Pelley reported, “The UN’s nuclear agency is expected to report later this week that Iran is on the threshold of being able to build a nuclear bomb.” In that day’s Washington Post, a piece by Joby Warrick, headlined “Iran Close to Nuclear Capability, IAEA Says,” led with this warning:"
... http://fair.org/extra-online-articles/on-iran-an-unsmoking-nongun/
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meanwhile:
Evidence of War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity Committed by Israeli Military During Operation Protective Edge: International Federation for Human Rights (FIDH)
http://www.globalresearch.ca/evidence-of-war-crimes-and-crimes-against-h...
Settlers attack Palestinian children in South Hebron Hills, injure 6-year-old girl
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/03/settlers-palestinian-children
Hebron, of course, is in occupied Palestine, where Zionists keep building their Jewish-only settlements and roads, and calling people names who object to their attacks on little kids.
As for you hasbara trolls - shouldn't you be over at the New York Times?
You're getting your asses handed to you - mostly because you're arguing fallacious, racialist propaganda.
By all means keep posting but, nine weeks
Good to have you here and the bandaids are on the right side of the bar
Might be a good idea to get your bucket list items knocked out before January 2017, when either Hillary or Bush start WWIII.
LOL, Obama is more than capable.
I thought this was appropriate, the new CNBC news show regarding this topic---and all others:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAwVIZDAUF0
If we like your sanctions, we will keep your sanctions!
Guess it's time for me to get out my Kerry VooDoo Doll and start pricking away.
The Iranian Representative in the WH, Val Jar, has Barry's peeny in a vise.
failure is success, woar is peace, america is all about freedum
This sounds like the same rhetoric we've been getting to resolving the Israel Palestinian "issue". Nothing to see here...
time to short that BOK pig
Did Israel win or did the US and Iran lose? Help!?!
change "or" to "and". A win for Israel is generally a loss for USA.
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/04/agreement-inevitable-congress
Why are progressives like obirdbrain, kerry and hillary driven to bend over and spread ass cheeks for criminal murdering islamists?
Some kind of twisted Stockholm syndrome or something?
Grimaldus
hey shitstain:
UN says Israel, not Iran, North Korea or Syria worst violator of human rights
http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/672198221/m/5470064813001
@mister suck delicious Islamic cock
The UN? Bunch of Islamist goat-f**kers!
What about goats rights? Wherever there is Islam, the poor goats suffer!! Not to mention the people.
Grimaldus
Only increases tension in a tense environment.
According to the communist plan of attack.
The farce of France , Great Britain and Germany been present in this round of negotiayions . Those " has been countries " powers seventy years ago an now , not so important . What the F...... are doing there ?
Will the same stooges negotiate also a deal with the worse rogue country on the face of the Earth namely : Israel ? Oh nooooooooo .
This rogue state is known to have an arsenal of nuclear weapons and chemical and batteriological weapons , but the stooges from the west USA , France , Great Britain , never talk about forcing the Apartheid state in joining the Nuclear proliferation Treaty ........... It 's only the danger from IRAN , because it is an Islamic country and because it is not a democracy, so the wetsern BLS narrative tell us .. forgetting that The USA is the chief war wamomgering FAKE democracy , France an Britain next criminal states .
very solid points.
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2015/03/31/when-war-comes-we-know-who...
Obama's desperation shows. Iran is fucking with his mind lol
I the ~Sultan of D.C.~ hereby decree that the can shall be kicked until otherwise advised... Now eat your peas, and buy some myIRA's.
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j030802.html
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Marxist son of a whore.
Why the progress report? Obomber cannot wait a few weeks to take a bow?
please replace unprecedented with unrestricted in the agrrement. Thanks
Some here are all for Iran getting Nukes
Iran, number one supporter of Islamic terrror.
Obama not far behind, soon to surpas.
Destroy US, Destroy Israel they chant led by their Ayatolla leader.
Oh, why not, give them nukes.
It's only fair!
So, dsty what you are finally exposing for the world to see is who were the real perps behind nine one one? It was Iran? Moving target. If this pass the blame goes on long enough we can bomb iceland for wmd's and flying planes into the twins? Sheesh, my head is exploding.
It's starting to make sense to me now, Mosedegh was behind the trists attack, ok, got it. Move along, these aren't the bots your looking for.
THere are a lot of people here that believe the US and Israel were behind 9-11
There are several who are not.
I am one of those
I am totaly aware that RT is also a propaganda site often quoted here.
Islam and the US also have their propaganda.
That being said,
how many times do the Iranian have to chant death to America for you guys to get it?
Perhaps when the Iranians chant "Death to America" anywhere near as often as it is chanted in Pakistan (and I'll exclude NWFP and Waziristan from the count). Pakistan has had multiple operable nuclear warheads since at least the summer of 1994 (four years before the CIA approved Wikipedia entry gives them credit). Despite having nuclear weapons it hasn't stopped the USSA from bombing Pakistani civilians or fostering regime change in Pakistan... or resulted in a Pakistani nuke being used against the US.
Moreover, that other hot bed of terrorist financing even moreso than Iran thanks to the FED (where they don't publicly chant "Death to America") - Saudi Arabia - will have nukes before Iran does, yet a lot people don't seem to "get it".
Yes, nuclear proliferation is a serious issue, but there are no serious proposals to combat nuclear proliferation being advocated by either side at the negotiating table, there is no neutral mediator and the other participants have been reduced to peanut gallery spectators as both sides have other "more important" interests which dictate their respective terms.
It’s hard to think of a president that has been more of an Epic Failure than President Obama. Even Carter is glad this guy came along, so at least he knows he is no longer the worst president ever. Here is just a short list of Obama’s Failures:
Returning the bust of Churchill to the Brits.
Had to make room for MLK.
He was elected
for the hearing impaired /S
Not going to hijack this thread but I couldn't help myself to stick it GW
Hey GW. Why is it that Bill Richardson, and most of Europe as well, is worried about this nuke deal with Iran.
If they are just about peaceful purposes and they've never had a nuke and all the US does is lie about it them then why does bob Menendez and Bill Richardson have concern as democrats?
But I'm sure you'll find away to blame Bush and Cheney for it.
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2014/11/11/bill-richardson-i-worry-about-...
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Outlines of understanding for the path to final phase? In just two short years of negotiation? That's fantastic! In ten years they might get to even producing something like a text of an agreement. Except Iran most likely will have the nukes then. Obama said that while we are in a loving embarace with non nuclear mullahs we will keep sanctioning them for support of terrorism and development of ballistic missiles. Isn't this a grand plan? Something like another deal where we will let Iranian troops occupy half of Iraq and run air support for then while fighting the same troops a fifty miles away in Syria.
Well said, that is where we are.
But there is a plan.
Dinesh Was Right – Obama Forming Global Caliphate
http://www.westernjournalism.com/dinesh-right-obama-forming-global-calip...
They're using the template that CONgress uses to negotiate the United States annual budget.
Congress finally passes US budget | US news | The Guardian
no deal is the new deal.
I have a similar situation with my bank. Yes, we did agree to the framework of giving me money, but, after spending the money, we still haven't agreed to a deal of me actually paying that back.
We're making progress everyday though.
"And I promise you, peace in our time. On this piece of paper..."
that Obama guy, sure knows how to make history...
Fuck Obama & the magic carpet he flew over on
I grow weary of Nuttinyahoo's lies and bellicose whining yawp.
We the Goy are not going to die for your pleasure and amusement.
Do Iran or STFU.
Obumma der dickmeister
http://www.locutions.org/2015/03/7-when-the-iran-nuclear-treaty-is-signed/