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Martin Armstrong: "Hillary Commits A Crime And They Defend Her"
From Martin Armstrong's ArmstrongEconomics
Hillary Commits A Crime And They Defend Her
MSNBC’s Ed Schultz who never saw a Democratic he did not like or a Republican who should not be executed, amazingly admitted in trying to defend Hillary that she is 67 years old and too old to know what she is doing. “There’s a lot of people in her demographic that just don’t want to be overwhelmed by that technology that are going to take the easier, simplest route to do something — I get that.”
You cannot get around the fact that what she did was criminal for when all those emails were subpoenaed by Congress, she failed to produce them or inform Congress she had a secret personal email. That is outright OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE and anyone else would go to prison for 5 years. Then when they are discovered, she erases the files. Come on! Why are there three sets of laws – (1) for Democrats, (2) for Republicans, and (3) for the rest of us?
Then her supporter Ed Randel, Former Pennsylvania governor whose wife is a Federal Judge on the Court of Appeals in Philadelphia, argued with a straight face that Edward Snowden hacked the NSA so Hillary was entitled to keep a private server. Hillary’s security would be even less impressive on a computer at her home.
Come on. Rendell is a lawyer and he KNOWS the law. What Hillary did is an absolute criminal act – there is no exception if there is honestly one rule of law for everyone. Can you image what what have happened if Nixon just said sorry, I erased all the tapes. Tough shit!
Then the venomous James Carville blamed the Bush Administration for all the investigations of the Clintons that justified her secrecy. Oh yes, there was Hillary trading commodities and making tons of money in a futures account while she was in meetings that were just a means of money laundering with the wins stuffed in her account and the losses in her lawyer’s account. This was typical kill the messenger. How come she never trades commodities ever since that one wildly successful trade?
All of these excuses are symbolic of the fact that politics is out-of-control. This is indeed the peak in insanity and with this ECM we may see a real turn against these people that just feel they can do whatever they want and then hunt us down to pay their bills.
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There is no more law. Only power and it's projections- money, influence, leverage and corruption.
"Can you image what what have happened if Nixon just said sorry, I erased all the tapes. Tough shit!"
Yeah, he would have been a full 2-term president.
I fall into the "rest of us" catagory...
Same as it ever was. And the sheep sleep.
When misguided public opinion honors what is despicable and despises what is honorable, punishes virtue and rewards vice, encourages what is harmful and discourages what is useful, applauds falsehood and smothers truth under indifference or insult, a nation turns its back on progress and can be restored only by the terrible lessons of catastrophe.”
–Frederic Bastian
“Where you have a concentration of power in a few hands, all too frequently men with the mentality of gangsters get control.” – Lord Acton
“When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a Moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat.
"The deterioration of every government begins with the decay of the principles on which it was founded.” - Charles Louis De Secondat, 1689
We must continue to trivialize this nonstop until American idiots start believing it's trivial...until it happens to them!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Oh, wait...this is dailykos, right?
give her a break.....besides....she has great legs and a nice ass........
for a hippo
Hippos do not have cankles and wall butt...
wall butt....
That's funny shit right there.
the clintons, like oj, are like litmus tests for the willfully stupid.
when you meet their fans, you know you instantly and unequivalently,
have met the morally bankrupt, and completely untrustworthy.
Let's just execute the bitich already.
I am Chumbawamba.
But she tucks her balls up so no one knows she has them.
Lois Lerner is another one who is getting off scott free. Nice precedent these people are setting. Criminals protecting criminals is what our government has devolved into. And the sheep are too fucking stupid to understand the ramifications of it all.
Seems to me that if she "is too old to have two emails", she sure as heck
is in no way capable of managing a Nation.
Prayer and divine intervention are our only hope.
...that's a long wait for a train that don't come.............
Bet your one of those who believes in unicorns shitting skittles.
The only "divine intervention" is going to be your ass getting off the sofa and taking responsibility for this mess.
I already did.
I blamed you.
Wouldn't it be nice if we actually saw a politician or a banker held accountable for the crimes they committed?
I never consented to be governed by these psychotic assholes.
Yeah, it would be nice.
Hint, hint.
Against the people or the State?
The latter has a waiting list.
"Seems to me that if she "is too old to have two emails", she sure as heck is in no way capable of managing a Nation."
True but don't bank on it. George Bush I was absolved from Iran-Contra because he didn't attend meetings and didn't pay attention in the meetings he attended to know what was going on but the sheeple elected him.
Female and Jew. Double protected demographic.
Was there ever any question she would walk?
FROM THE BEGINNING, her all too typical arrogance shuld have been a adead giveaway.
Oh no, there was never any question. It just amazes me though, how there are sheep in the fold who will defend these criminal scum---because they somehow think that if they are the sheep that are nice to the wolves, the wolves won't eat them.
It's fitting that humans will defend humanity's most destructive elements right up until the end.
Everyone justifies supporting psychopathic scum who share similar beliefs.
It's the Corzine Way...Free John Corzine!
Lerner will go to jail...count on it.
obvious sarc, no need for a tag, She's farking old so I give her a pass on appearance. Her daughter is ugly and young so no pass for her.
She is likely to be the next Prez so long as she doesn't piss off her handlers. The FSA will come out in droves to vote her in. Chelsea for Prez 2036? Nope, the USSA will be a 3rd World country by then. The biggest nig will be ruler for life. An off the grid cabin in the deep backwoods of Idaho is looking better all the time.
Dr. Lexus: Don't wanna sound like a dick or nothin', but it says on your chart that you're fucked up. Ah, you talk like a fag, and your shit's all tarded. What I'd do, is just like... ha ha... like... aha... you know, like, you know what I mean, like... haha...
"What difference at this point does it make?"
Sick fuck that she is, Hitlery is a symptom of what a sick system tosses up as "viable." She perfectly reflects the interests that put her in her position of power. Same with the rest of the shit-stains we are given to choose from.
Let them put her up. Once people really focus on her her candidacy will crumble like a butter cracker. Then we will be left with what though? Nothing good I am sure.
There is no good in the never ending propaganda story or else they'd have to write the closing chapter. That equates to loss of power and control when you reach the finale, then reset has to happen. All you get is 50 shades of grey so the show can go on indefinately unless you can hijack or unplug the people from the 24/7 365 nonstop coordinated propaganda onslaught on their senses.
You want to know who really rules over you start with finding out who/what is coordinating all the propaganda channels for starters. Give you a hint it ain't the bankstas, they are just plotlines and character actors. The director never stars in the film unless it is a film about directing and we don't get to see the ending credits to find out either. Remember the FED plays to the press not the other way around or else they wouldn't bother to jawbone for pyschological/propaganda perception effect in the first place.
Just to expand slightly on the good and bad theme. Look at it from a logical perspective.
It is either good and bad | good or bad.
Or implies a single winner
by using Demorgan's laws you can turn good or bad into not (good and bad)
And implies no single winner.
so now you have not good and not bad
good = white
bad = black
If it is not black and not white it has to be grey aka every color between. There can never be an absolute single winner since they are all shades of grey.
They'd rigged the game on the most basic of levels...
The only way to win is total spectrum dominance (control all 50 shades of grey) or not be part of the game in the first place aka black to it.
Ed Schultz who never saw a Democratic he did not like or a Republican who should not be executed
Who.....BTW started off as a conservative....but he sucked at it.
no zerohedge please no......we dont need the o'rielly show and other lame ass destractors....i dont want to read commments or articles about lame democrats and children eating republicans,,,,seems like the zerohedge ship is sinking slowly but surely into the icy depths of being bought out and owned like the rest.....FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK......
Alinsky freakout......imminent!
Subpoenas don't mean shit anymore. Bush US attorney scandal e-mails that were subpoenaed? Nope, Executive privilege. All O-bomb-a has to do is make the claim it's EP and it's a done deal, no recourse. Supported by the Just-us dept.
Hillary's obstruction charges can go right next to Lois Lerner's contempt charges.
I think CONgress has some sort of authority but nah, they won't do anyhting about any of this, except maybe jawbone.
I think it is time for her to go on "Ellen" and show off her dance moves
Agreed, but she'll need to do a better job of hiding her member than Michelle did.
I would weep for the Republic, but it died decades ago. This is what the rotten corpse looks like-- Hillary Rodham Clinton.
its still a "republic" - banana
Your last sentence is sarcasm, right?
The American Left (including one already venal, hate-filled dyke, HRC), through their then emerging attack dogs in the MarxistMedia, were absolutely determined to bring down Dick Nixon, due to this Commie-hunting days as a member of HUAC.
After all, this propagandizing arm of the Democrats, had already enjoyed an early and huge success in lying to the American public about nearly every aspect of the Vietnam War, most notably Comrade Cronkite casting the huge American military victory in the Tet Offensive, as some sort of stumbling defeat.
Actually, there is better evidence that the Democrats just went along for the ride. Nixon was overthrown by persons unknown on the inside of the administration.
http://www.garynorth.com/public/12768.cfm
"Somebody deep inside the bowels of the White House had access to the tapes. This person leaked the exact position of the tapes to the government's lawyers. This was illegal. The government knew it was illegal. Any reporter with an ounce of sense would have known it was illegal. Any historian with an ounce of sense would have followed the trail back into the White House. And yet, 40 years later, nobody in the mainstream has done it.
When something this important sits under the nose of every full-time journalist and historian for 40 years, and no one picks up the trail, this testifies to an extreme lack of curiosity on the part of historians and journalists. It reveals, for all to see, that journalists and historians choose not to investigate, in depth, things that ought to be obvious, things that were judicially crucial, and things that they would rather not have the public think about.
Forcing Nixon out of office was not a triumph of democracy. It was the triumph of a mole inside the White House, the complicity of the courts at theft, and the self-imposed silence of the media."
I always assumed Nixon was done over by the CIA. Something to do with JFK's assassination and also Nixon getting in the way of CIA's control of US foreign policy. Absolutely certain it had nothing to do with investigative journalism. However, extremely interetsing that the CIA's in-house journal, Washington Post ran the story.
Cough cough...
Rumor has long had it that Nixon's knowledge of certain Kennedy Assassination data (related to the coverup, and especially Ford's role in it) was what earned him the pardon. However, quite apart from that, even the Democrats understood back then that an impeachment trial undertaken during time of war was simply a nonstarter. Some other means would have been found to avert that, had Ford not been so disposed.
'...Forcing Nixon out of office was not a triumph of democracy. It was the triumph of a mole inside the White House, the complicity of the courts at theft, and the self-imposed silence of the media."
It does seem rather odd that no one has ever come up with the suitable explanation how the prosecution was able to target with such specificity.
“...We are told that Watergate illustrates the triumph of American democracy, because a sitting President was forced to resign. Nobody ever asks this question: "How did the government know which sections of the infamous Watergate tapes to demand from Nixon and his lawyers?" They were not granted access to all of the tapes. The tapes have never been released. They are still incomplete in terms of public transcripts and access. The government's lawyers could only request highly specific segments of specific tapes. They knew exactly which sections to subpoena.
January 8, 1973 from 4:05 to 5:34 P.M. (E.O.B.)
a) at approximately 10 minutes and 15 seconds into the conversation, a segment lasting 6 minutes and 31 seconds:
b) at approximately 67 minutes into the conversation, a segment lasting 11 minutes;
c) at approximately 82 minutes and 15 seconds into the conversation, a segment lasting 5 minutes and 31 seconds.
How did they know?" -- Inside Job: How Nixon Was Taken Down By Gary North
It’s amazing to see those with firsthand knowledge and experience back in these historically important and sensitive days can continue to count on this same lack of follow through by supposedly logically deductible reasoning “investigative” journalists. I guess it goes to show someone with the power to “not disclose sources” can actually deliver on the promise.
Pathetic, imo.
(My personal opinion lies somewhere between Chuck Colson and Bryce N. Harlow .)
No, no sarcasm. If Tricky Dick had dug in his heels and stuck out his middle finger he would have been impeached, as expected, but not removed from office. NO AMERICAN PRESIDENT HAS EVER BEEN REMOVED FROM OFFICE BY IMPEACHMENT. And 'ol Dick wouldn't have either. He would have been sactioned, censured or some such shit, but he would have served 2 full terms. Just like Billy Clinton.
Up to a few years ago I would have vehemently attacked your argumentative position,
but now I know you are absolutely correct.
I have a hard time reading this shit anymore, everyday the corruption becomes worse and worse. The mindless zombies defend their favorite sports team (D) vs. (R) no matter what they do, it's political stock holm syndrome. I feel sick and I want out of this fuckin' circus, when the fuck does this bullshit stop?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl7s4fsooPE
She would have a tough time being nominated.
Maybe some Community Organizer from the Chicago bullpen.
La Raza will have some good suggestions and campaign infrastructure is in place.
NoDebt. Agreed. What Nixon did would be considered business as usual today. People would belittle him for being wimpy and resigning. There is no rule of law any longer.
But the point he made was that Nixon's presidency would have survived back then also.
.... the prgoressive liberal democraps behavior is reprehensible, despicable, and just plain mean and nasty and flies in the face of decency and respect... and the tone set in this country and gubmint by fudgepacker is doubly so if not more... they have even turned against one of their own the Senator Menendez from NJ... the charges against him may well be real but no doubt trumped up by the despicably politicized DOJ....meanwhile Lois Lerner gets a pass for her reprehesible behavior because it benefited the fudgepacker and its elite.. WTF - the gubmint under the fudgepacker has turned mean, nasty and evil towards its U.S. citizen and tax payers by flaunting the rule of law and the consittution by the ruling elected political democrap turds.... Behavior reflects personality.... these are not nice people....
Once your Cult of Personality reaches critical mass, facts simply don't matter and the rule of law no longer applies. That is modern America.
Hillary is an old pro at obstruction
In 1996, a special Senate Whitewater committee released a report from the FBI demonstrating that documents sought in the Whitewater investigation had been found in the personal Clinton quarters of the White House. The First Lady’s fingerprints were on them. The documents had gone mysteriously missing for two years. Mark Fabiani, special White House counsel, immediately stated that there was no problem, according to the Times: “He added that she had testified under oath that she had nothing to do with the documents during the two years they were missing and did not know how they ended up in the family quarters.” Hillary remains the only First Lady in American history to be fingerprinted by the FBI. Those weren’t the only missing Whitewater documents later found in the Clinton White House. Rose Law billing records were found years after being sought “in the storage area in the third-floor private residence at the White House where unsolicited gifts to the President and First Lady are stored before being sorted and catalogued.”
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/04/hillary-clintons-long...
Why isn't the Bitch in jail already.
If by jail you mean the White House, yeah, she's likely to serve an 8 year sentence in that jail starting sometime around January 2017 for this crime.
I hate the bitch, but she's probably gonna pull it off. You don't understand how fanatical people are who support her. Shit, if this ends up a Bush vs. Clinton race, which it probably will, I WILL VOTE FOR HILLARY just to get this shit show over with and finish off the country as fast as possible.
Why isn't the Bitch in jail already.
The tribe has had a long understanding.....it's worked for many years now.
Why a subpoena for the server was not issued day one is beyond me. Yes she should arrested.
My brother refers to this as the popping the zit strategy.
I'm hoping Ted Cruz continues to gain momentum.
Ted Cruz is not an eligible natural born Citizen. He was naturalized at birth by 8 US Code 1401(1), since he was born subject to the jurisdiction of the US in Canada due to his US Citizen birth mother.
Not to mention his wife who is a VP for the Squid (she has recently taken a "leave of absence").
Cruz is a liar and a hypocrite. Bought and paid for.
Agreed. The pubs got nothing. It's all rigged anyways. TPTB et.al. will install who they choose.
4 reds for BofP? I see we have some right side believers left. I was one. Keep on reading ZH and eventually you will see thru the delusion they offer.
It is no surprise. The Dem's did the same thing after Bush and many still support and defend Obama and his warmongering and bankster loving policies.
Some people are still deep asleep in America (perhaps even most of the population).
Nice threory, going nowhere.
Congress settled the issue. He can be President.
Move along. Nothing more to see here.
Congress does not settle that issue. Eligibility for office of the POTUS, and VP are judicial decisions. Congress is only responsible for the "qualifications and elections of its own members". A1S5C1.
Cruz was born with 3 allegiances (citizenships) Canadian, US and Cuban, as such he is not eligible.
Of course Cruz is not eligible. Not according to the Constitution anyway.
It appears we have some really stupid fuckan people posting here at ZH on this issue. Either that, or the .gov trolls are busy today.
Please, stop it.
If the machine puts a name on our ballot,
that name has been aproved by the owners.
The system is in place.
They're all rotten.
WTF.... the fudgepacker wasn't born in this country and is not eligible and look where that thing is.....
Nice theory.
Who in hell do you think is going to give a crap?
The gubberment can do anything they want if no one legally objects. And most of the time, they can do it even IF someone legally objects because they can litigate to eternity.
No one is going to legally object.
Case closed.
... this country needs another clinton or even another bush as much as it needs another term by the fudgepacker....
"There ain't nuthin uglier than an old white woman." Fred Sanford, Sanford and Son
It will never happen. The optics have moved. Funny how this Indiana law is the media focus now when that piece of legislation is essentially identical to the federal version of the law that was passed by her husband in 1993.
Let's not forget that she was fired from the Watergate Investigation Committee (House) for Impeachment, for cause. And then this ensued.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/ronald-d-rotunda-hillarys-emails-and-the-law...
http://www.eohistory.info/2013/hillaryHistory.htm
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/04/hillarys_baggage.html
A friend said the other day to me that I had to back Hillary for President because she'd be the first woman. I responded, first, "Why?" (FWIW, I am female, and the product of an elite women's college, of the sort Hillary attended, during the same era).
My friend, who is highly involved politically in her home state, was aghast, but really had no answer; I pointed out that I had no problem electing anybody who was not morally corrupt, and clearly so, but given the longstanding evidence otherwise re Hillary, I found it no more useful to elect her on the basis of her gender than to elect a DNA resurrected dinosaur on the basis of DNA scarcity. Both are being elected, theoretically, on the basis of DNA specifics--certainly not performance, and both are equally dangerous.
On reflection, Hillary remains more dangerous, because she holds the media in her grip. The Dinosaur, unless radically genetically modified in addition to being resurrected, would lack her speech advantage. Otherwise, they would still be about even.
Some people are just exempt. Get used to it.
Or people who have a terminal disease or nothing left to live for, start taking these scumbags out. Only then will corrupt behavior begin to change.
Either "nothing left to live for" or, what is becoming more likely, "can't live this way anymore".
No.
Never.
What are we, Europe?
When Hillary is indicted I will stand corrected.
Ed Schultz, one of the biggest bias A-holes on teh TeeVee.
EDIT: And if she's too senile at 67 to know what she's doing, then that should exclude her from ever thinking about running for President since she has to carry the nucular football, an electronic device. What a lying dick!
Right, ranks up there as the most idiotic lie ever.
Please remember oldster, only one electronic device at a time.
The football does not receive hourly pictures of the grand children I bet.
It's already been done. See: Reagan, Ronald. They have always been big on precedent, especially when it comes to presidents...
HRC would be just as old as Reagan if she gets in in 2016
But Reagan didn't commit multiple felonies like HRC. Not to mention Arkancide.
But Klink, who ya gonna call @ 3am?
No one that has been mentioned here. That's for sure!
Fuck HRC
I vomit at the thought.
.... even her sexual predator pedophile hubby won't do it...
"Come on. Rendell is a lawyer and he KNOWS the law"
He was also governor and his wife is now a judge so he knows the law only matters for muppets.
come on, you know the law only apply to bottom 99.99% ...
The thing is, actual liberals can't stand this pinhead or the sycophant that surround her. Some will still vote for the dumb, corrupt woman anyways (I think she'll lose and am giddy to bet on the Republicans to win POTUS at +160 to win).
.... fat fukn chance.... the republicants are disjointed, disorganized, have no real leadership and behave like they are dumber than litter box full of cat turds.... look who they put up against the fudgepacker the last two elections... both ran shitty campaigns about as effective as a pay toilet in a diarrhea ward.... this country needs another bush like it needs another term with the fudgepacker or another clinton...
I took a biotech company public in 2001. Any employee that was conducting any official e-mail communications or any official electronic business from a server that was not at and under the managment of the company's IT people would have been fired and prosecuted to the full extent of the law, period.
And these people call themselves "educated" cirtical thinkers, FAIL.
Does anyone really believe that, considering all the resources at their disposal, that our government could not provide this bitch with a reliable and secure e-mail account?
She doesn't fucking care. They've beat Whitewater. They beat the cattle future bribing incident. They beat travelgate. She refused to turn over Vince Fosters documents when requested by law- she shook down Marc Riches wife for millions in return for a pardon- she stole shit from the WH. She beat Benghazi with that ridiculous videographer bullshit.
So why in the fuck would anyone think she couldn't beat this? These fucking Clintons are criminal sociopaths. And every pussy prosecutor in America just pisses themselves at the thought of prosecuting these two.
http://www.arkancide.com/
yes, precisely why there is only one way "out"...
the guillotine grows hungrier by the day...
and we all know damn well that the NSA has a copy of every single e-mail from hillary...
As do Putin, the Chinese, and of course the Israelis.
Only criminal sociopaths?
You're being kind.
A number of (all?) banks will fire you if you send an email from a company account to a personal account. It doesn't matter what the contents of the email are, you're simply fired.
Everyone knows that she could have been provided with a government managed email account. The excuse they're going with is that she didn't want two devices when any modern device (including blackberry which survives on government contracts) can handle two accounts... and she had more than one device anyway. Another excuse is that it was "easier" to call up some guy to set up a brand new domain and server in her home than it was to tell the IT department to create an account for her. Obviously that decision was made on the basis of who was standing in front of her when she received the brainwave that she needed an email account. It would be unconscionable to believe that she took considered and positive action to hide her activities from the people. She's just not that kind of person. /s Adding still more incredulity is the fact that the WH press secretary said that Hillary defied policy because in order for this to be true, Hillary would have had to never email or get CC'd on an email that went up to the preezy...or for that matter anyone who knew about the policy.
tl;dr- it's sad and offensive how many blatant contradictions there are in the official story. It boggles the mind how anyone could think that she's suitable for the presidency, she's not even good at lying.
Membership has its priviledges bitchez. Hillary 2016.
Hillary would lie to Satan, she should never be allowed to talk with her mouth open.
But she is so HOT!
Quite the contrary, she's not hot enough. Someone should set her on fire.
EDIT: Don't do crack, and step away from the meth pipe Heisenberg.
This bitch is above the law. Just like Dear Leader. They are like cockroaches- we don't want them in our house but we can't get rid of them.
What the shit is on that guy's head?
Hold the fuck up.
“There’s a lot of people in her demographic that just don’t want to be overwhelmed by that technology that are going to take the easier, simplest route to do something — I get that.”
So...starting your own email server is "easier" and "simpler" than using government provided addresses?
Bull-fucking-shit.
Yeah, going to be hard for the single-party talking heads to sweep this one under the rug.
I wonder if she used POP or IMAP?
Great question, but largely irrelevant. I'm sure she's paid someone to wipe both her devices and the server properly.
I can guarantee she'll only be using sneaker-net in the future. Or in her case, old -cunt-orthotic-net.
You know, there used to be a time when such blatant and public mendacity was grounds for a tar-and-feathering. Fuck spanking children - bring back corporal punishment for adults, who have brain development enough to understand why they're being punished.
Set up stocks on the National Mall.
Hillary to the Pillory.
We are governed by the worst humanity has to offer.
For the most part, there is no humanity, or loyalty to oaths of office.
We have a radiated poisoned eaarth and it is an increasingly difficult place to raise a family
+1 Quote of the week
“There’s a lot of people in her demographic that just don’t want to be overwhelmed by that technology that are going to take the easier, simplest route to do something..."
I completely agree. Some of these newfangled doodads are just plain too complex for people in Hillary's demographic. These people should be "grandfathered in," so to speak, so they don't have to follow all those stupid rules about keeping official emails. Oh, and any other laws these people couldn't possibly understand should also not apply to them.
/sarc btw
Knowing that Armstrong spent all that time in the slammer for failing to disclose information (contempt of court and later plead guilty to conspiracy to commit fraud), I find his comments rather ironic.
Pretty simplistic summary of Armstrong's case. The reader's digest version (his story) is that when Princeton Economics called the break up of the Soviet Union he was visited by the CIA and asked for his computer program model. He refused and they concocted a reason to bust him and seize his computer. Unfortunately for the CIA he had a program that wiped the hard drive clean with an unauthorized hacking. That royally pissed off the CIA and he was charged on some trumped up issues surrounding the handling of clients assets. He refused to hand over personal assets or assets that didn't exist (I forget) and was held in contempt of court. While in prison he had at least one attempt on his life which was a severe beating while the prison guards watched. He was in prison for something like 7 years. They were leaving him in there to die. Fortunately for him, he started getting his economic writings out into the general public while in prison. This led to a widespread campaign by his readers/fans (I was one of them) to write to the prison warden and judge to set him free and/or keep him safe. He was eventually offered a plea deal because (in my opinion) he became a liabiility to the justice system. He took the plea deal as it got him out of prison with time served, IIRC. You would have done the same even if you didn't commit the crime. There was ample evidence he provided to support his case and version of events although I have no personal knowledge of whether what he says is true. I gave him the benefit of the doubt because he named names of the corrupt judges/prosecutors and why they did what they did. I'm sure if you looked around you could find the several articles he wrote describing what happened to him and why.
Yes, I'm aware of all that. I have no idea which parts of those stories are true either. But if he was such a threat, I'm sure they would killed him in prison.
My point being is that his writings and attitude have changed dramatically since those days. Especially on gold issues.
My point being is that his writings and attitude have changed dramatically since those days.
Please tell us what he would have written differently on HRC, back in those days.
Otherwise stop throwing dirt in his general direction I find his comments rather ironic because he sat on trumped up charges for failing to disclose information (contempt of court and later plead guilty to conspiracy to commit fraud), and when some other commenter calls you out you evade into completely unrelated (to HRC) gold issues.
It makes you look like one of those butt hurt "gold bugs hoarding gold mainly to make a killing when the current system collapses (reserve psychopaths, great!)" that must have pissed off Armstrong so much he started writing crap about gold on purpose to piss them off.
Please. The fact that Armstrong denies gold and silver manipulation is enough to dismiss his own twisted theories on gold.
Many of his recent historically incorrect posts here have been factually destroyed by other posters. He is far from being a saint and truth teller, that's for sure.
Where did I call Armstrong a saint.
And if we are already changing the topic at will here, I find it much more hilarious that many ZH posters still believe Paul Volcker was/is at least almost a saint.
Hillary like Jeb Boooosh are the squirrels guys, stay focused cause we are beyond a political answer. TIme to move on to a viable solution, accept the reality and move on to devoting more time to figuring out your family's future plans to punch out and avoid going down in flames. The REpublitards have had ample opportunity to perp walk all of these criminals and yet nothing. I hear Lois Lerner is walking and she is as guilty as all get out.
What's George W Bush have to say?
MSNBC's ratings are even worse than CNBC. It is an echo chamber wherein Party Liner's perform public worhsip of their Overlords. Very few people are watching.
The problem, of course, is that there is no stopping the FSA now because the rule of law means nothing to them. We will all live to see a Dictator here, handing out EBT cards and publicly shaming those who will not submit.
Once these sociopaths get into the white house they get the dirt on everyone involved in the big ponzi so they get a permanent "safe" pass and can do no wrong. It's all so obvious at this point it's sickening. I just read the other day about how people put shit and piss and a jar and then put a balloon over the top of the jar and collect the gas. Then they take the gas and huff it and get "jenked". The American political class are shitting in a jar and feeding the gas to the sheeple who hallucinate and believe everything is fantastic.
Let's see now. Hillary is a fairly bright person who has used computers for four decades, and cellular phones for two decades and she is befuddled by them? "I get that" if he said it about Bush or Obama, but Hillary?
Hillary is guilty, just as she was when she got the nonmargin call in cattles futures. That much is true. its also true that Heritage and Ken Starr went after the Clintons tooth and nail from the get go. and their efforts were successful. There was just enough dissuasion cast on Al Gore that with a few votes brokered from brother Jeb and Katherine Harris in Florida George won the electoral college despite being 6 million votes behind nationally. Apparently they are still winning because we are bashing the hell of the Hillary while Jeb campaigns to be the third Bush to be President. Right now the history books are being written, the end of the American empire, built on fairness and justice, these things always seem to happen at the century and even the millenial points in history, the year 2000 for instance is going down as a bad turn for America, and it all goes back to a blow job in the White House, and some people who were publically hounding a President who had some moral character flaws to be exploited, for certain. I agree Hillary is a nonstarter for 16 but lets keep the bigger picture in mind. America is off the tracks lets not forget who got us there.
Why does Armstrong act like he was born yesterday?
In other news Islamic terrorist group al Shabaab is attacking in Kenya. This will affect Dear Leader 's upcoming trip? Why does 'al Shabaab' sound like The name of a 60's beach music group from North Carolina?
Opening act will be Bokam Haram performing whiter shade of pale
This from the Wall Street Journal
Hillary’s Emails and the Law
By
Ronald D. Rotunda
March 16, 2015 7:09 p.m. ET
The fact that Hillary Clinton exclusively used a private server in her home, rather than a secure government server, to send emails during her four years as secretary of state has raised many questions. She now says that it was a mistake but also emphasizes that she broke no law. News reports typically describe her offense as not following “policy.”
Whether or not Mrs. Clinton violated a State Department rule, her admitted destruction of more than 30,000 emails sure looks like obstruction of justice—a serious violation of the criminal law. Let’s consider some of the basic, undisputed facts, and then the law.
First, Mrs. Clinton was worried that communicating through email would leave a trail that might be subject to subpoena. “As much as I’ve been investigated and all of that,” she said in 2000, “why would I ever want to do email?” But when she became secretary of state, she didn’t have much choice. So she set up a private server in her house. That way, in the event of an investigation, she could control which emails would be turned over.
We know this is true because that is exactly what happened. When Congress subpoenaed Mrs. Clinton’s official communications, or when nongovernmental organizations filed Freedom of Information Act requests for the same, the State Department could not turn over her emails because it did not have them.
The State Department must have known that its leader was using a private account. Mrs. Clinton presumably emailed other officials within the department, and the “from” line would have shown clearly that she wasn’t sending the message from a proper government email address.
Mrs. Clinton claims that she never sent any classified or secret information on her private account, though many have noted that she conspicuously left out whether she received such material. Either way the claim is hard to swallow—one would think it would have left her out of the loop—but let’s assume she is telling the truth.
By her own admission, Mrs. Clinton destroyed more than 30,000 emails once the subpoenas started coming in. She claims that she only destroyed personal records. Team Clinton initially explained that her work emails were separated from her personal emails using keyword searches. Now, after the outcry about how much this method might have missed, Mrs. Clinton is insisting that every email was individually read before the deletion.
Still, this leaves questions unanswered. How did those reviewing the emails define “personal”? For instance, if Mrs. Clinton had emailed a foreign government about a donation to the Clinton Foundation, was that message—whatever its interest to watchdogs or voters—tossed in the trash bin?
The law says that no one has to use email, but it is a crime (18 U.S.C. section 1519) to destroy even one message to prevent it from being subpoenaed. Prosecutors charging someone with obstruction don’t even have to establish that any investigation was pending or under way when the deletion took place. As T. Markus Funk explained in a journal article for the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, the prosecutor “need only prove that the defendant shredded the documents, at least in part, to make life more difficult for future investigators, if and when they eventually appear.”
Legal commentators call this “anticipatory obstruction of justice,” and the law punishes it with up to 20 years imprisonment. The burden of proof is light. The Justice Department manual advises that section 1519 makes prosecution much easier because it covers “any matters” or “’in relation to or contemplation of’ any matters.” It adds, “No corrupt persuasion is required.”
In addition, rules governing the practice of law forbid attorneys from anticipatory obstruction of justice. These ethics rules are drafted by the American Bar Association, but they are also reflected in real law. Virtually every state court adopts them, and violation can lead to disbarment. Rule 3.4 (which has been around for many years) provides that an attorney shall not unlawfully “conceal a document or other material having potential evidentiary value.” Mrs. Clinton is a lawyer governed by these rules. So are any attorneys who advised her to delete her emails.
When the Senate Watergate Committee discovered that President Richard Nixon had a very extensive inventory of White House tapes, both the committee and the special prosecutor subpoenaed them. At the time, some wondered why Mr. Nixon, a lawyer before entering politics, didn’t simply destroy the tapes. The answer was that doing so could have led Mr. Nixon to an indictment for obstruction as well as disbarment.
At the time, I was assistant majority counsel to the Senate Watergate Committee, so I remember that period well. Mrs. Clinton should remember it too: She worked on the House Impeachment Committee, which warned Nixon not to destroy the tapes.
Here’s another reason Mrs. Clinton should know about obstruction: Congress enacted section 1519, making the crime easier to prove, in 2002, as part of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act. As senator, she voted for the law.
Mr. Rotunda is a professor at Chapman University’s Fowler School of Law and the co-author, with John Nowak, of “Treatise on Constitutional Law” (Thomson Reuters, fifth edition, 2013).
Jawol Schultz! Now get back to your post.
HOOOOOOOGAN!!
Ed is gonna spit in your beer at the next Schultz reunion
Thanks for this.
How does this not lead to three scenarios
1. Brought up on obstruction of justice charges (Holder)
2. Contempt of Congress
3. Disbarment
Ed is gonna spit in your beer at the next Schultz reunion
Thanks for this.
How does this not lead to three scenarios
1. Brought up on obstruction of justice charges (Holder)
2. Contempt of Congress
3. Disbarment
Hillary doesn't care, as long as her name is kept in the news cycle, she's good. It gives sycophants like these the opportunity to defend and promote her for POTUS. Secret emails? Erased servers? Vincent Foster? SHE'S ALREADY OVERQUALIFIED TO BE POTUS.
We erased some files and lied to some folks.
If she becomes a front runner it's likely going to turn in to the same "does character count" meme we had the last time someone with that name stepped up to run the office of President.
We saw how that went.
Will she get a coating of Teflon as well?
(to this day there is a school in my neighborhood with a giant banner, erected when Slick Willy was elected, that reads: "Character Counts School".
Ed Schultz just really likes Hilary and wants to suck her cock.
Q: Why doesn't Hitlery wear skirts?
A: Because her balls would show.
She shouldnt have destroyed the server. All she had to so was send in Sandy Berger to stuff it down his socks. That precedent was set years ago.
Oh and for the record, Ed Schultz who?
This will not mean anything unless a strong alternative Democrat contender can challenge Hillary. I expect the Democrat leaders to squash any competition in the primaries so they hand the nomination to Hillary. Once she locks it, the usual Clinton sleeze will push the email issue aside and turn any Republican questions into an attack on women. The play book is already written - and so far Hillary has slimed her way out of any sserious trouble.
As ZH pointed out a while back, the Democrats have a lock on 40% of the electoral votes they need. They would vote for Hillary even if she was sitting in a jail cell. Thus the battle is really for about a half dozen swing states, with Hillary only needing 3 or 4 of those to clinch.
Will the Dem money brigade (the only group that really matters) put away their checkbooks if Hillary is indicted for contempt of Congress? You know that is why she has held off declaring for Pres. She can't while this scandal cooks along on medium boil.
I think the R's will hold off on subpoeas until she declares and then immediately strike.
Dem's have no fall back. But they must be in full on panic mode. Who will be the first to crack that it is time to cut losses on a dead donkey?
The scandalmongering defense is starting to ring hollow.
If Ed Schultz is saying she is too old to get a grip on technology that has been routine for nearly 2 decades, what makes him think she can handle the complexities of being President. Hillary doesn't get to have it both ways.
But if Ed wants to keep his job, he has to suck Hill cock
MSNBC is the Democrat Channel. Obots = Hillbots
Obama doesn't want Hillary as his successor. He doesn't trust her. It won't happen. Somehow some of those incriminating Hillary emails NSA has nicely collated will find their way into the public domain.
She will do anything, literally anything to gain power. She makes her husaband look amateur.
I'll say it again: "Hillary of over".
The reasons mount.
1. As Obumba said: "She doesn't have that new car smell".
2. She's a terrible politician and just plain unlikable. The Democrats fantasize over here because they imaging that "it's her turn". Bill was likable. Hillary isn't.
3. George Soros dumped her in 2008. When Georgie dumps a politician, they stay dumped.
4. The Obama's don't like her and will leak the dirt that takes her down, starting with "server gate." Sooner or later,someone will whisper in her ear that there IS stuff that will put you in the slammer. Just take your loot and enjoy your retirement.
Nice analysis, but Hillary isn't a quitter, she's got to crash and burn.
I said "she's over". It's not the same as saying "she realizes she's over".
I love watching a violent, flaming train wreck as much as the next man.