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This Is Your Country On Drugs: NatGeo Documents "American Nightmare"

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On Wednesday, we showed that nearly a quarter of Americans use drugs to alter their moods and promote relaxation. We also outlined which states are the “most drugged,” and went on to show, via a series of maps courtesy of National Geographic, which parts of the US had the highest per capita rate of illegal drug charges.

Below is the NatGeo documentary which outlines the proliferation of illegal drug use in America. The startling finding: “...the most drug infested state in the most drug infested country is Vermont.” 

 

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Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:21 | 5952954 Glass Seagull
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Hence, the strategic location of Ben & Jerry's HQ

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:33 | 5952997 Harbanger
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To put Vermont in perspective, in 2012 Obama won a higher share of votes there than NY.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:42 | 5953028 ACP
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Highest drug use, but low crime rate.

Thank you, Constitutional Carry.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:46 | 5953042 froze25
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New Hampshire has the best of both worlds.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:52 | 5953075 NoDebt
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Watched the video and they sure nailed it with Delaware being the highest per-cap for heroin busts.  I can believe that stat.  H has made a HUGE come-back in the PA/DE area the last 10 years.  You almost didn't hear about it 10 years ago- it had been off the radar for so long.  Now all the cool kids are doing it again.  For when stealing Mom & Dad's oxy pills just doesn't cut it any more, I guess.

 

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:59 | 5953110 General Decline
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Didn't the huge heroine influx in this country coincide with the US invasion of Afghanistan? Weird.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:05 | 5953132 Ignatius
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The CIA manages much of the world illicit drug trade.  Real weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFzGu5bxnOc

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:07 | 5953142 0b1knob
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Why its almost like the government actively promoted drug use by EBT food for druggies, free medicaid care, free clean needles, US military protection for heroin production in Afghanistan...

Oh wait....

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:09 | 5953150 0b1knob
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Report with Kal Penn.

Kal is an expert on drugs due to his "position" with Obama in the White House.   And that position would be bent over and lubed.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:35 | 5953229 Stackers
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Real men wake n bake

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:57 | 5953291 hedgeless_horseman
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"Swallowing half an hour before closing time, that second dose of soma had raised a quite impenetrable wall between the actual universe and their minds."

 

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"I don't understand anything," she said with decision, determined to preserve her incomprehension intact. "Nothing. Least of all," she continued in another tone "why you don't take soma when you have these dreadful ideas of yours. You'd forget all about them. And instead of feeling miserable, you'd be jolly. So jolly,"

 

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"When the Warden started booming, she had inconspicuously swallowed half a gramme of soma, with the result that she could now sit, serenely not listening, thinking of nothing at all, but with her large blue eyes fixed on the Warden's face in an expression of rapt attention."

 

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"As soon as they got back to the rest-house, she swallowed six half-gramme tablets of soma, lay down on her bed, and within ten minutes had embarked for lunar eternity. It would be eighteen hours at the least before she was in time again."

http://www.huxley.net/soma/somaquote.html

It's a Brave New World.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 16:36 | 5953430 svayambhu108
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>To put Vermont in perspective, in 2012 Obama won a higher share of votes there than NY.

Hopium...

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 20:12 | 5954034 conscious being
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Hey Dover AFB in Dover, Deleware.

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 02:40 | 5954862 Exponere Mendaces
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Oh look, its the "thrivalist" with the obligatory SOMA quote. Whatever would we do without your grizzled old white man point of view. Let us know when you get strong enough not to cross the street when you see colored people, won't you?

Fucking ancient knob-gobbler.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 19:43 | 5953966 Andre
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Not really so  weird. It's at least as old as Vietnam, And the deals between the Mafia and the OSS for cooperation in WW2, well, really.

Remember, all operations funded by Congress are (theoretically) subject to the Senate Oversight Comittee. No .gov funding, no reporting requirement.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:19 | 5953171 roadhazard
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Yeah, we sure nipped that trade in the bud when the US occupied Afghanistan. Nancy would be so proud. Besides not eradicating the poppies the same plant financed the Taliban. So US troops had that going for them. I just couldn't believe no one Ever complained.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:41 | 5953244 Trogdor
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Yeah, well, the Taliban took over and started burning the poppy fields - made opium production a capital crime - opium production fell off a cliff.  That pissed off the IMF AND the CIA (they love the money-laundering and unlimited black-budgets) - so they painted the Taliban with a big red "Terrorist" brush and sent troops in to rid the world of those heathen anti-drug rag-heads.  The dogs go in, run the Taliban out, and the US installs one of the top drug dealer's brother as puppet president.  Heroin production soars.  We now have troops guarding poppy fields ..... and getting addicted.  Just another day in the world turned completely fucking upside down.....

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 16:00 | 5953312 daveO
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They came home from Vietnam addicted, too. The MSM never talked much about it, of course. Too busy calling them baby killers.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 17:28 | 5953608 mkkby
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That was swiftboat boy John Kerry calling them baby killers.  Anything goes when you have a narcissist's need for attention and a sociopath's craving for power.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 20:08 | 5953992 TheGreatRecovery
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I don't remember anyone EVER calling any Vietnam Vet "baby killer". 

What I do remember is, "HEY HEY LBJ, HOW MANY KIDS DID YOU KILL TODAY?"  But LBJ was not a Vietnam Vet.  LBJ was the guy who lied about Tonkien Bay to send USA KIDS over to get killed, for no reason that I could ever figure, unless it was just to make Military Industrial Complex "War Pigs" rich.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 17:47 | 5953671 Van Halen
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Not really - heroin was huge on the west coast back in the nineties - remember all the grunge rock star deaths?

I have a friend in a midstate NY emergency room and she says heroin is big again up there. It was PCP, then bathsalts, then synthetic marijuana then heroin.

Bottom line: For the love of all that's holy, HOW MANY times do you have to tell people not to do drugs?

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 20:07 | 5954021 ThroxxOfVron
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In the 80's and 90's the 'North Shore' above Boston was rife with smuggler's.

The 'quality' steed went to the people with money, Boston's financiers and their kids that lived from Swampscott and Salem or so on northwards.

From Revere down through Roxbury and on south and west was saturated with low-grade and dirty mixed nag for the poor irish and townies, students at Boston's many secondard schools, negroes, etc..

 

Berklee was like a magnet that sucked musicians into hell.  

I lived about a block away above The Pourhouse for awhile.   

Aimee Mann and Peter Wolf would sit together schtonkered fabsolutely ucking senseless, mute and half asleep, in a booth in there for days...

 

I know a lot of musicians that got hooked after a night of drinking at places like The Rat or Wally's.

So many guitarists idolizing Aerosmith.  So many horn players hung up on Coltrane and Davis...

Really just kids desperately trying whatever they thought would lend them credibility or inspiration...

There was a saying: "If you wanna rock 'n' roll you gotta pay the toll."

They paid alright.  Some of them paid with their talent and their sanity -and their lives.

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 03:22 | 5954898 MEAN BUSINESS
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Aimee Mann featured in the music video Time Stand Still in 1987 by RUSH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMSFqXGZ5TQ

RUSH tours NA this summer celebrating 40 years.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:10 | 5953151 Skateboarder
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Hi-skool friend of mine ODd twice on bigPharm pills and once on the H. Pot isn't "the gateway drug"... those damn bigPharm pills are.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:19 | 5953172 0b1knob
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In Soviet America, drug DO YOU!

Jackoff Smirnof

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:28 | 5953185 El Vaquero
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A high school friend of mine really fucked himself up on them plus alcohol too.  The fucker would snort oxycontin like it was going out of style, then he started just walking into people's houses and going through their medicine cabinets.  He wondered why nobody wanted to hang out with him.  He's been in prison too, in and out of rehab. He finally almost killed himself with vodka one evening.  His blood alcohol level was just shy of 0.6, he was in a coma, and because all of the abuse he had put his body through, they had to remove parts of his lungs and keep him in the coma for a week or two. 

 

And this was all on drugs that were legal.  His use of them wasn't always legal, but they were government approved or regulated drugs.  He was fun to be around before he got so fucked up, which is a damned shame.  Had he been shot for stealing somebody's shit, I probably would not have blamed the person who shot him either. 

 

And despite all of that, I am still against the war on drugs.  There is no such thing as a perfect solution to people ruining themselves.  A lot of people I went to high school with did a lot of illicit substances and it didn't fuck them up like it did him. 

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 16:10 | 5953349 General Decline
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As Jack Blood used to say (maybe he still does) "sometimes freedom is messy & sometimes people get hurt in a free society".  I'm poorly paraphrasing.  Point being;  a totalitarian police state is also messy. 

 

It comes down to - what type of "mess" do you prefer?  

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 17:16 | 5953567 drdolittle
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When they decriminalized drugs in Portugal use rates went up slightly (but less than the rest of the continent's use rates went up) and overdose deaths virtually disappeared. Portugal's drug use rate is about half of Spain's. War on drugs doubled our prison population and usage rates stayed the same. Same as prohibition, violent drug gangs were fostered. Same as prohibition, harder drugs become more used. Prior to prohibition, number one alcoholic beverage was beer, during prohibition number one was hard liquor, more bang for your smuggling effort.

I work in the ED in WV, people OD on heroin way more than they did when pills were the thing. Get them hooked on the pain pills, make pills expensive and hard to come by and they switch to heroin. Never know what you're getting. An 80mg oxy is always an 80mg oxy. OD is the number one cause of death nationwide 18-24. Not so funny, huh. BTW, in 15 years I can literally count on one hand the number of MJ related ED visits. Coupla anxiety, coupla bronchitis, one or two violence related (war on drugs related). I can easily see more alcohol and tobacco related in one evening.

And, to finish, I'm shocked DE is number one in heroin busts. There are a shit ton of heroin addicts here. We are number one in hep B per capita. KY is number one in hep C so take that, DE.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:23 | 5953186 roadhazard
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Good pot gives you the best bang for the buck and if you run out it ain't no big deal. Me and Willie are here to tell you. It's going to be 4:20 in my neighborhood within the hour.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:40 | 5953240 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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I want to be the first to open a Willy Nelson Bud franchise in CANADA. When Willy Nelson Pot hits the market Goldman Sachs will want to start another IPO. Willy Nelson Pot is going to be huge in terms of sales. I want in on the ground floor, Mr. Nelson!!!!

 

NOTE: Willy Nelson Pot is going to be the new oil boom of the future, Z/H.

 

:|

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:51 | 5953276 TeethVillage88s
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Could be the European Royalty and Old Money felt there was a big US Market wide open to a New Opium War in America.

Picking the Winners and Losers.

Maybe the Masons help facilitate finding the Leadership in US MIC, US Government, and US Private Industry for War in Afghanistan Opium.

Even Bill Clinton was Knight in some Masonic Order.

Skull & Bones.

"Hey if you mess around (say the High Level Masons), then you going to make yourself a Loser."

So the main Goals of the Afghanistan War:

- Control Oil & Gas Concessions, Mining, Pipelines
- Push Out Competing Powers
- Test US Forces, Test Weapons & Tactics, Gain Military Experience, Convert US Households toward Right Wing Military Republic
- Rare Earth Metals
- Control the Opium & Increase Crop Yield
- Destroy US Households, Create Under Class, Expand Prison Class, Bring Back Privatization of Prisons
- Capture Taxpayer Dollars for the MIC & Corporate Friends
- Create New Career Places for Former Military

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:35 | 5953230 Ward cleaver
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Same here in outer parts of NY. Reason is that obtaining legal opiates such as Vic or Oxys is impossible so kids turn to H. Friend of mine told me his neighbor lost both sons to H OD. Stuff is too strong for them. Again, gov't gets involved and law of us intended consequences kicks in

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:51 | 5953278 Zerozen
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...or instead of blaming the gov't for this one, your friend's neighbor should be blamed for doing a fuck-up job of parenting his sons, as evidenced by the fact that they are both (deceased) drug addicts.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 20:22 | 5954062 conscious being
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How involed is government in moving Horse? How many bankster bonuse depend on laundering Horse? What's up with that little old Lick Willie airstrip in Mena, Arkansa?

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:52 | 5953076 Boris Alatovkrap
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Boris is recommend to much use of vodka, then is citizenry too sloshy for meth chef or prescription drug. There, is all solved!

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:57 | 5953103 NoDebt
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Holy shit, Boris, where you been?  I thought you had checked out or something I havent' see a post from you in so long.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:19 | 5953174 unrulian
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+1 With the Minsk Accord you must be back from the front lines.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 20:01 | 5954001 TheGreatRecovery
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Give love to Natasha.  Give EVERYBODY love to Natasha.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 20:02 | 5954008 TheGreatRecovery
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Boris, NOT "Dirty Boris" racing Vespa champion, yes?  Different Boris.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 20:09 | 5954029 ThroxxOfVron
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I am too happy is seeing from you again, Boris !

Molotov time is now yes?

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:11 | 5953155 DuneCreature
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I don’t know how you Russies do it. The Mexicans tell me they drink excessively every day to keep from getting a hangover. ………… Kinda Tequila QE.

~ DC

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:25 | 5953196 Consuelo
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Fine warrior that Magua was.

 

 

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 16:16 | 5953367 DuneCreature
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Yes he was or is. (Is that the proper tense for a fictional character?)

He sums me up in the ‘tude department. …. Just think of me as thoroughly pissed off Huron with a Paslode.

..

..

Not that I would actually use it on anyone, mind you, but I might be willing to rent it out.

~ DC

 

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 16:06 | 5953331 DutchR
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Russions do have a lot of practice

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 16:51 | 5953501 DuneCreature
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Say, is it just me or do Russians talk little funny?

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 17:14 | 5953562 TeethVillage88s
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Chingutchkiq and Magua we all speak funny.

But US Culture is so Maverick and independent we don't allow people to look or act different. We think we all should have the same hat, boots, hair cut, facial hair, blue jeans, and hand gestures.

Oh wait that is Fascism... never mind.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 17:47 | 5953669 DuneCreature
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It was a Russki rass. .. He’ll, know what I mean. I love Boris’ .. aaaaah ‘accent’.

I up arrowed him for ‘sloshy’  right away but it took me a minute on the ‘meth chef’.

Hell I even have a SU T50 high res screensaver with little red stars on the wings and I’m about to go long rubles.

 

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 16:03 | 5953322 DutchR
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I repeat myself but, BORIS, kisses in a manly way and vodka on the house, good to see you again

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 17:50 | 5953683 Van Halen
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BORIS! I haven't seen you in forever! I was wondering where you went. Great to see you! Your post made my day!

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 19:51 | 5953980 Andre
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Welcome Back!

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:30 | 5953214 Harbanger
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Interestingly, Vermont is very white, liberal and uber rich, lots of bloomberg types there, yet it has some of the most lax gun laws in the country.  It's like liberals just want to ban shit for everyone else.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 16:10 | 5953350 DutchR
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Do what i say but don't do what i do kind of liberals

 

Vermont, 

Nuke the entire site fom orbit , it's the only way to be sure

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 20:27 | 5954078 conscious being
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Vermont is where Manhattanites go to ski. Again, skewed stats. How many of those busted are locals?

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 20:17 | 5954050 Mr. Frosty
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Demographics is destiny, even with drugs everywhere

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:45 | 5953036 froze25
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Hahahah, go to Afghanistan put the Drug lords, known as the "Northern Alliance" in power, make the head drug lords brother President.  What could go wrong.  Nice cheap Heroin for the CIA.  Remember that the next time you are told we are using our troops to defend our freedom.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:03 | 5953126 General Decline
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The US military... Spreading democracy AND heroin. Cue the slow motion bald eagle with track marks all over his wings.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:46 | 5953038 Bastiat
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So they're self medicating to escape the cognitive dissonance?

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:33 | 5952998 Deathrips
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Decriminalize it all.

Why should the government be gifted anything else in the form of tax revenues?

 

I got 5 on it.

 

RIPS

 

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 17:38 | 5953646 mkkby
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You and the 26 people who upvoted you must be high on some bad shit spiked with rat poison.  How the fuck is the gov taxing it when it's sold by the black market?'

It's the exact opposite, meth brain.  Gov taxes it when it's decriminalized.  That the main reason they do it.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 20:30 | 5954087 conscious being
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It was the decriminalize part. What a supposedly free, adult person decides to injest in none of the governments business.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:33 | 5953001 Burt Gummer
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Is there any correlation to the number of rich bankers living in vermont and the states high rate of coke addicts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl7s4fsooPE

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:16 | 5953164 slaughterer
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This ZH article just makes me want to fuck Hillary Clinton up the ass while toking on a bong and eating Cherry Garcia.  

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 16:02 | 5953318 chairman of the...
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Slaughterer...please include eyebleach for the image created....

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 16:45 | 5953471 JohnG
Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:23 | 5952960 Mister Delicious
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legalize it.

regulate it.

tax it.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:32 | 5952996 Consuelo
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'regulate it'

'tax it'

Why...?

 

 

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:42 | 5953025 Harbanger
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To pay for education, like cigarettes.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:43 | 5953033 Deathrips
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"Ummms, I likes to give more to my rapists"

 

?

 

RIPS

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:55 | 5953096 Harbanger
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They told me my cigarette tax goes to education for the chiddren.  We can't quit on the chiddren.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 16:44 | 5953470 DutchR
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Why not?

F them,

Just make some new one

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:36 | 5953008 Luapnor
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"regulate it."

"tax it."

 

Why?

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:25 | 5952966 LawsofPhysics
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LOL...  Come on, people will do whatever it takes...

When fraud is the status quo, possession is 100% of the law.

Get long black markets and sharecropping, beat the rush.

It's this kind of stuff that almost makes you want to vote for the most corrupt fuckers, just to get the reset over with already...

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 17:42 | 5953657 mkkby
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You get more shrill and batshit by the day.  And that is the reason for all the drug abuse.  Untreated mental illness.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:25 | 5952968 Big Corked Boots
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Has anyone considered the possibility that Vermont might be a statistical anomaly?

Or is it assumed that numbers don't lie?

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:54 | 5953088 NoDebt
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It doesn't take many busts to print a big number on a per-cap basis when you've got the lowest population.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 20:33 | 5954098 conscious being
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One word ski resorts. Ok, two words. Many non-locals.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:26 | 5952970 KnuckleDragger-X
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Find the right doctor(s) and there are all kinds of interesting drugs you can get legally.......

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:48 | 5953051 froze25
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Really learn how chemistry works and you can just make them nice and cheap.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 20:35 | 5954101 conscious being
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Two more words. Mother Nature.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:13 | 5953143 gaoptimize
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I have found this difficult, because most doctors are unaware of many drugs. For reasons having to do with my technical hobbies and work ( and I like being clever ) , I've been trying to find a doctor who will prescribe Modafinile (a high-end nootropic ) for me.  As a libertarian, I largely reject the Government intrusion into health decisions, but as soon as we collectively decide we are going to pay for the collateral damage to peoples lives through the safety net, in for a dime, in for a dollar.

A year ago, I had a kidney stone.  I spent 9 hours in agony, 4 of those in the emergency room, before it passed by itself ( heaven on Earth ).  Prior to circa 1913, I could have grown and picked some poppy for tea or smoking.  I really resent our loss of liberty because some people can't control themselves and it has become our mandatory duty to protect them from themselves.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:26 | 5953199 PirateOfBaltimore
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You sound a lot like me.

And you mean Modafinil aka Provigil, a non-amphetamine alertness aid generally used for shift-work sleep disorder, narcolespy, and to help those with disturbed sleep from sleep apnea.

 

Great drug.  Occasionally get some of it's newer isomer counterpart, Nuvigil.  

 

A decent alternative is sold OTC in Europe and is a precursor of modafinil: Adrafinil.  It's unregulated in the US and can be found online.

 

I'd also recommend selegiline in patch form (less side-effects since it's an MAOI).  Did wonders for my dysthymia and has supposed nootropic effects.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 16:06 | 5953333 TeethVillage88s
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Follow up questions

I suppose if you are a 2nd Amendment guy there are issues and risk of getting on lists of different kinds. Like if a Clinton got in office again, wonder what would be taken from our rights. Drugs are a big question mark.

I guess like someone said if you grow something you don't get on a list anywhere. Then you can tend to some pain management on your own maybe.

Big pharma seems like they are the Big Oil of Health, took over US Congress, then monopolized mother nature, implanted Patriarchy as an Institution. Victorian USA. We tell you want you can do to yourself.

I've got sleep problems, but no solutions except for common sense. But I've never heard about any of these things you mentioned here.

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 08:47 | 5955310 PirateOfBaltimore
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I found the selegiline helped my sleep issues - largely related to the dysthymia.  Used to have trouble getting back to sleep and waking up ungodly early in the morning.  It certainly helps me focus during the day, too, as one of its metabolites is a small percentage of amphetamine.

Hardly anyone knows about selegiline, despite it being a god send for me (and probably other dysthymic patients).  My doctor was skeptical/hesitant at first because it is an MAOI (usually a shit ton of side effects), but since you bypass the gut using the patch for administration, there are no dietary restrictions at the 6mg dose.  A warning though, it increases dopamine levels, so watch out for reward from instant gratification going overboard. 

 

Am I concerned about getting on a list?  No.  Having chronic low grade depression (disthymia, primarily presenting in sleep issues and motivation/focus problems) for most of my life and nothing moreso than that, I'm not concerned.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 22:46 | 5954385 Cornfedbloodstool
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I use ambien to grat effect. It is habit forming though and has some weird side effects.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:30 | 5953212 Skateboarder
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Don't forget the inability to distinguish natural law, man-made lawfulness, and man-made legality, as a result of poisoning the food and retarding the minds of the people through edumacayshun and entertainment. If mandatory obedience (backed by violence) == liberty, then the Newspeak dictionary is indeed complete.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 20:39 | 5954112 conscious being
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How many Americans take Flouride? The only place in Europe that approaches US rates of water flouridation is Ireland. Somebody thinks the Irish need some calming down.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:26 | 5952971 Dr. Engali
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The CIA could not have devised of a better plan to control the undesirables and line their pockets at the same time.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:43 | 5953032 pickupthatcan
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The Taliban almost had the poppy fields in Asscrackastan eliminated.  Now that the CIA is in control, they're now the largest heroin supplier to the world again.  Couple that with the DEAs agreement with the Sinaloa cartel that they could have open distribution to the states and the DOJ giving the go ahead to the banks to launder all that cash.  TPTB know exactly what they're doing.  Gotta keep that money flowing into the corrupt judicial system.

 

The War on Drugs has ruined many more lives than the drugs themselves.

 

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:50 | 5953058 froze25
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True indeed, well said and right on point.  War on Asscrackastan, heroin prices plummet like a stone and purity goes up and your kids right to rehab.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:18 | 5953130 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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War on Drugs itself or a war fought on drugs, i.e. all the combatants are high on drugs.

It is not the drugs that get you high but the brain chemicals like dopamine the neurotransmitters produce.

The human brain stores memory in words as stories or narratives that is why babies don't have any memories until they start to learn language.

Some memories are more hurtful than others we know this to be true by personal experience. If memories are stories/narratives in words they have to have pleasure pain/value associated with them which implies words can get you high. Like that geico commercial that words can really hurt you. Propaganda is language. That pain/pleasure value can be programmed into ones head, just say nigger in the right crowds to see what I mean. Word placement becomes important when you are bombarding people with propaganda 24/7. It creates linguistic drug addiction.

Language is man's greatest blessing and curse all at the same time because the way the brain processes verbal language.

Here is another one to ponder hooked on phonics...

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 16:09 | 5953343 TeethVillage88s
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Good point on the Banking, Yemen is a Money Transfer location from what I see in Wikipedia. Makes me wonder how many African Countries are used for Money Laundering.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 16:51 | 5953498 DutchR
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TeethVillage88s, I'll take The City for $400

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 17:10 | 5953552 TeethVillage88s
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Oh Citibank, Citigroup.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:28 | 5952981 malek
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 a quarter of Americans use drugs to alter their moods and promote relaxation

You clarify below that this is meant for illegal drugs.
Now please give us the number when legal drugs/pharmaceuticals are included!

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:31 | 5952983 Frank N. Beans
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The video clip did not explain why Farmer Jones in Vermont is such a great customer to Crime Inc.  "Because it's booming" is not really a reason.  Hope it does in the full showing.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:33 | 5952986 FreeShitter
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Here in Texas its all about Sizzurp/Lean (Promethazine w/Codeine syrup)

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:39 | 5953020 cossack55
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But has it replaced Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill yet.  Or maybe some of that solid extra Mescal shit with the worm in it that you buy in the pint bottles on the "other side" that has 11 of 13 chemicals contained in mascaline.  Cheapest trip I ever took.  

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:51 | 5953064 froze25
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Cheapest trip I ever took was a 5 dollar hit of acid back in the 90's.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:51 | 5953070 FreeShitter
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For sure. Md 20/20 and Straw hill are outdated now lol....

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:30 | 5952988 Which is worse ...
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This implosion is going to make Imperial Rome look like nothing...

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:47 | 5953047 DutchR
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Took Rome a couple of hunderd years, take a oxy and some *** and relax, enjoy the show

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:32 | 5952995 Shizzmoney
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Vermont? Damn hippies!

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 16:16 | 5953368 smokintoad
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Live Free or High

 

Oh Damn... that's New Hampshire.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:34 | 5952999 Condition 1SQ
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What a crock.  Some stats from 2013 ..

Alcohol induced deaths: 29,000

Alcohol-related liver failure: 18,000

Pharmaceutical drug fatalities: 22,000

Illicit drugs fatalities: 17,000

Marijuana fatalities: 0 (it is physiologically impossible to die from marijuana ingestion)

Not to mention tobacco use and the unparalleled addictiveness of nicotine.

It's pretty clear that the distinction between "illicit" and "legal" has more to do with preserving existing power structures rather than saving the public from themselves (which the government shouldn't be involved in, anyway).

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:45 | 5953037 weburke
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legal pot is now poisoned in at least 2 ways. either grow your own, or dont do it. 

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:51 | 5953067 Bastiat
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With what and by whom?

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 16:36 | 5953433 negative rates
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With seeds and nature silly.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:34 | 5953002 sfisher
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Good gun laws in that State.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:34 | 5953003 Jack Burton
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This is a sign of the rotten economy and lack of jobs, economic growth, and dropping wages. When unemployed and hopeless, drugs are a perfect diversion. Also, a good way for people to make money who can't get decent wages in a real job. The drugs do not cause the rot, they are a symptom of the decay of American culture and economy. The bottom 50% might just as well be on drugs.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:52 | 5953078 Bastiat
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They sustain and contribute to the rot--vicious spiral.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:53 | 5953082 FreeShitter
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Im sure the bottom 70% are on some type of legal/illegal pill or drug.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:57 | 5953304 Chuck Knoblauch
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The shadow government is funded by this underground economy.

For a smart man, you must see it.

The drug business is big business for the elite.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 21:06 | 5954178 mendigo
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Drugs, alchohol, tv and internet.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:35 | 5953004 czarangelus
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All drugs are medicines, and so far as I can tell, nobody in the medical or psychiatric establishment has a better handle on what medications will help us as individuals than you yourself do. And if you decide you want to destroy yourself with heroin or cocaine, so fucking what? Why is it society's job to stop you? The real reason for drug prohibition is the real reason for anything - an excuse to abuse the poor; a justification for giving the government more control; and a way of trying to keep people from having breakthrough experiences that reveal the undeniable reality of the spirit world.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:44 | 5953035 Sanity Bear
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Anyone want to join me on a trip to Vermont?

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:46 | 5953044 Manipuflation
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Yes, but do I have to take a piss test for a $9 dollar an hour job first?

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:48 | 5953052 Sanity Bear
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if you don't test positive for anything you can't come along

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:47 | 5953046 pachanguero
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NatGeo is a paid NWO media whore.

I put no value in anything they say............

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:55 | 5953091 davidalan1
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Loved the magazine as a 12yr old with all those topless african women in grass skirts ..oh yeeahhhh diggeity

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:04 | 5953131 LFMayor
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LOL.  Preach it brother!

Beat the shit out of the bra section in JC Penny catalog, that's for sure.    

Sun, 04/05/2015 - 14:03 | 5961163 GoinFawr
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I dunno, the image of a woman breast feeding a child she was carrying on her back (over her shoulder, in case you're wondering) never really pumped my nag.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 18:30 | 5953802 Sokhmate
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NatGeo subscription ran in our family since 1913. I stopped that tradition.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:50 | 5953053 lasvegaspersona
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The Federal war on legitimate pain prescription drugs drives patients with chronic pain problems to seek illegal relief. They are also being forced into prescription drugs that cost (A LOT!!!) more to protect against 'abuse'. I'd like to believe there is more than just profits that drive this new war on legal drugs....but I think that the dollars is what it is really about. In October the FDA started to require a new prescription for all hydrocodone (no refills). More significantly they are apparently drastically limiting the amount of all marcotic pauin meds to the pharmacies. They have been hassassing the pharmacies to the point one (CVS) has been teling patients that they will no longer carry them.

In 40 years as a physician I have never seen so much intrussion into the doctor - patient relationship.

The Federal government has an unquenchable thirst for the power that comes with control. Once they control every aspect of medicine, compliance by patients in pain or with sick relatives wil be almost automatic. Bow before your masters of Washington DC.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:52 | 5953073 czarangelus
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The war on pain relief and doctors is enough to make one think there are literally demonic or Reptilian entities literally in control of our government with the literal goal of causing human misery for its own sake.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:55 | 5953093 FreeShitter
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Thats why we invaded Afghanistan. Someone has to pump in the opium/poppy.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:59 | 5953112 Abaco
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And absolutely no fucking authority to do any of it.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 14:56 | 5953097 dizzyfingers
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I wish National Geographic would morph backwards; nature shows only, please, and NOT about global warming! I rarely watch NG shows anymore.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 17:59 | 5953099 Radical Marijuana
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DEBT SLAVERY BACKED UP BY

WARS BASED UPON DECEITS!

THAT is the "American Nightmare," regarding which drugs are a relatively trivial symptom ... However, of course, National Geographic is NOT going to present THAT BIGGER PICTURE, but only an extremely biased point of view, through the tiny keyhole of their perception, which is based upon deliberately ignoring, as much as possible, what is actually going on in THAT BIGGER PICTURE!

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:05 | 5953116 IridiumRebel
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clean and sober since 11/25/06

The mind is a terrible thing to debase....

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:06 | 5953136 viator
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Obamahigh

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:09 | 5953145 Oswald did it
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Some folks like to party

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:09 | 5953146 Chuck Knoblauch
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Remember Chinese Opium Dens?

The Chinese do, and they don't forget.

Strictly an Americans only club today.

Jade Helm, bitchez.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:10 | 5953152 bpj
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Banning something is a good way create jobs. Drugs create police, probation officers, parole officers, prison guards, prison construction, law clerks, judges, deputy district attorneys, public defenders, rehab employees, crime lab employees.

Imagine if they banned guns, we could all have jobs with state.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:10 | 5953154 Ramesees
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Who the fuck cares about what people do to relax?  Jesus I never thought Zerohedgers would be such a bunch of Neo-Victorian prude assholes. 

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 16:23 | 5953389 paint it red ca...
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Current broad interest in black market imported drugs and their use is not centered on the consumers or there reasons. The interesting part of non-pharmaceutical drugs is more in the control of production, transport, and profiting by those organizations that have remained above 45 years of 'the war on drugs'. A war that may well have been waged on competition rather than the related suffering, vice and corruption.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:23 | 5953188 creeko
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Fuck nat'l geo... when they do a documentary on how jet fuel doesn't melt steel, and on how a plane engines don't vaporize in dirt, I'll pay attention.  They didn't do that one yet?  No way!

Sun, 04/05/2015 - 13:58 | 5961155 GoinFawr
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I'd pay attention too, just so long as that doc covers how if you hold steel over a jet-fueled flame long enough it will weaken, and that a solid planet of earth will pretty much 'vaporize' anything that directly impacts it @ ~mach 2 plus...

this isn't to say that there are no relevant questions to be answered regarding that tragedy, just that yours aren't really two of them.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:34 | 5953225 Consuelo
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While I fully expect a government based on Federalism combined with a few generations of watering down Boobus to a point that he wouldn't know what real freedom is from Shinola, it still pains to see so-called 'conservatives' and even many 'Liberals' support this illegal war on Freedom and Choice - which, by any other name is what U.S. policy on 'drugs' is all about.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 20:36 | 5954097 franciscopendergrass
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How the spelling of federalism is so akin to feudalism?

after 1913 with instituting of the income tax and the Fed, the US government could not tell the difference between Feudalism and federalism

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:36 | 5953227 frankly scarlet
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this is your country's business plan.... the profits fund the narco surveillance agencies and then some, the banks take their cut as laundromats keeping them liquified, and the prison industrial garners fresh slaves.  'nough said; we're being run by the mob.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:38 | 5953234 VladLenin
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Another "war on ..."  that's a failure. Let the states and counties decide on the legality for any vice crime (and they can pay for it!). Sure, my bible thumping county will outlaw about everything I enjoy, but I can move somewhere else in the U.S. to snort blow off of hookers' asses. It's better than having to find another country. 

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:39 | 5953238 The Shape
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Kal Penn's been on the pies.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:45 | 5953257 Jack Daniels Esq
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The dumb black muslim is America's biggest adict

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 15:50 | 5953275 will ling
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the Great Winnowing Out will remedy things .

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 16:03 | 5953320 venturen
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The legal drug trade is much worse whether it is oxy, perc, or the mind altering drugs. The terrible decsion people make...like voting democrats to financially ruin them

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 16:16 | 5953366 RaceToTheBottom
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A drugged populace is a docile populace....

All according to plan.

 

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 16:30 | 5953415 TeethVillage88s
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I agree with others in that this NATGEO has little relevance today.

This guy makes up a Logo and a fictional company "Crime Incorporate". WTF. Not enough facts to work with. The MSM Powers would let you do the real investigation, so you do a puff piece of sensationalism, drama, and statements for users that don't really know Investigative Facts.

- Implementation of Law Enforcement of Drug Crimes plays a part
- If North Dakota has Oil Workers with Money, maybe it is a case of Targeting Rednecks not high drug activity

I'm not an Expert on this stuff, but Corporate Control is probably the Story Here.

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 20:40 | 5954116 franciscopendergrass
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I think you are thinking roughneck with redneck

who am I kidding.  They are about the same

Thu, 04/02/2015 - 16:40 | 5953450 ljag
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Sorry. Too late! Weed as we know it has gone the way of the dodo. OIL (as in weed/hash oil) put into a vape pen is on fire. Can't make enough of the shit

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