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I loathed the bullshit presidential speech...the word Tentative and comprehensive kept being used. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU have a TENTATIVE, comprehensive agreement? answer, YOU DONT.. Just more bullshit and lies...
John Chamberlain comes to mind.
Who's the obscure white guy or is this just more MSM cartoon Obama insulation
tentative, comprehensive, wtf does it matter. It's either that or a war the zionists drag us into. I'll take the former, please.
This whole situation is so fucked up that I don't know what to think anymore. But it made headlines and gives Barry something else empty and meaningless to take credit for.
LOL'ing at you people that still pay attention to this shit as if it means something more than mere cheap spectacle.
I am Chumbawamba.
"Stupid is as stupid does."
It's written on the rug at cartoon Kerry's feet. Apropos of everything.
does netanyahoo draw all these crappy zio cartoons that aren't funny ?
No, the only thing NuttyYahoo draws is blood and treasure.
Weasel words in any contract...
it was never about nuclear, that's a side issue. it was all about Iran selling energy in other than Fed Reserve Notes (USD bring a misnomer to fool the public). The negotiations are about who can sell energy resources in other then FRNs and not get attacked....or if you prefer the partial deconstruction of the petro dollar platform; so please let's not get hung up on Iran pursuing nuclear produced electricity. If Iran decides against religious doctrine to get nukes then they become a big target while restoring some balance of power vis a vis the Israelis in the region so no big deal unless you have swallowed way more cool aid than even remotely neccessary.
It was all about Iran (and Iraq too) selling oil in competition with the Rothschild controlled energy companies.
The "peak oil" meme was bullshit intended to fatten their profits immensely and it worked. It's also working well (for the insiders who have their shorts placed) as the price collapses.
Remember all the sock puppets broadcasting oil shortages? The real shortages are customers that are willing to pay the high prices.
Dalan: you are a retard.
The man's name was Neville Chamberlain, PM of England, and his opponent in peace negotiations was Hitler, Germany which had greater military capability than the UK at the time-1938.
Iran does not have anything close to the US in nuclear arms (or conventional arms for that matter) as the US has approximately 8,500 nuclear warheads and Iran is trying to get its first, so there is no comparison whatsoever.
And the word you are searching for is, 'appeasement'.
You should learn some history before making wide historical comparisons that are wholly inaccurate, tripe and insipid.
Thanks genius. Actually I wasnt "searching" for a WORD. The word was used by our illustrious leaders. "Tentative", like that tentative contract you signed i.e. non-binding, not yet reached as in NO agreement.
As far as Chamberlain. It wasnt a comparison of then and now it was a simple example of what Kerry came away with. NOTHING.. as did chamberlain. But thanks for the unsolicited history lesson.
The peace strategies that Chamberlain employed in the Munich negotiations have been labelled as,'appeasement', by historians.
And yes, even though you don't 'get it' your reference to Chamberlain, your idea really thirsts for the 'appeasement'analysis.
What would you do with Iran? Bomb them, create another war in ME?
The US administration dullards have finally realized they need Iran (like Iraq fighting ISIS) for ME stability which suit US interests as they are a big , effective player and a solid counterpoint to the radical Sunnis (remember the ones that did 911?) ; divide and conquer-a strategy as old as Julius Ceasar.
Nixon and Kissinger favoured Iran under the Shah to carry their weight in ME before the revolution so this 'treaty' is just a continuation of the US ME foreign policy in the 60's and 70's
If you had read history you would know that.
It is a framework and will still need to be debated and voted on.
As with any treaty actually.
Should be an interesting debate.
The technical term is "raproachment" (French always have the good diplo-speak) as yes, at one time Iran and the US were very close allies...and may be so again looking at the Street celebrations.
Why anyone is against the US and Iran being buddy/buddy is, well...beyond nutty.
But like I said...should be an interesting debate. Huge win for the Administration and Kerry and indeed depending on how the debate shakes out is in my view "a massive power shift in sector 943-6."
FWI...just my view.
Oudinit: The Sunnis did 9/11??
Are you joking?! I think it is you who is retarded, you stupid c*nt.
And you know f*ck all about history. Neville Chamberlain's idea of diplomacy was to take it up the poop-hole from anyone and everyone, in customary British fashion.
Disbaledvet: As for John Kerry, it takes that retarded buffoon half the day just to tie his own shoe-laces. You must be f*cking delusional and an idiot to think that he achieves anything other than being a total imbecile.
"Retard", "Dont get it" - thanks Mr. Pendantic. I grow weary of your faux Professorship and condenscion.
Fuck Iran and FUCK the ME. "Need Iran"? You jest I surmise. "Like Iraq fighting Isis". This is way too rich for me.
ME stability?? LMFAO!! Sunnis? Shiites? who the fuck cares? "The ones that did 911"? OMG And now we broach Julias Ceasar. This is comedic to say the least.
Nixon? hahahaha Treaty? what treaty? oh, the Tentative treaty..got it. and you call me the retard?
How bout this professor. We use the current CIA, FBI, DIA, DOD, ATF, NSA, Army, Navy, Airforce, Marines, Nat Guard, DHS, State and local police to protect us from the boogie men half a world away. We become self suffiicent with our own oil reserves. We focus on our own suffering people in this country and FUCK the M.E.
It's actually, 'condescending', not, 'condenscion'.
Look, I'm sorry for calling you a ,'retard'; if I knew you were this stupid, I wouldn't have bothered-as it is cruel to call a true retarded person , a 'retard'.
Have a good day, keep up with the interesting ideas!
Why thank you good Sir. I consider it an honor to have exposed your abject deluded arrogance. I will be watching out for the sunni's.
Good Friday to you.
.
Every reasonable person would like to see a successful diplomatic solution...however, a repeat of North Korea, now or in 10 or 15 years is not a successful diplomatic solution. The alternative is not war, it s a military operation to strike at the Iranian nuclear development sites. I would rather be the bad guy and bomb their nuke sites than end up with an outcome like North Korea. It appears most of the mideast, not just Israel, feels the same way.
Every reasonable person knows the world is fucked up and that diplomacy is bullshit.
Government, no matter what part of the globe it's on, is the problem.
The psychopaths running the US don't like what the psychopaths running -fill in the blank- are doing, and vice versa.
Meanwhile 99.9% of the hairless apes on planet earth just want to get on with their lives and be left alone.
Think about it.
didn't downvote, just trying to be helpful
Thanks for that bit of sanity.
The alternative is not war, it s a military operation to strike at the Israeli and Pakistan nuclear development sites.
Fixed it.
If ever you wake up, you are in for a REAL BIG SHOCK.
Any self respecting retard would be upset to be associated with you.
Maybe you should start taking your meds again.
I rarely downvote, but......
Radical Sunnis used nanothermite to bring down the three towers?
laser-you are right, the thermite was supplied by unknown groups: but we could make a good guess.
My point is that Sunnis are more radical, militant than Shiites (most Iranian citizens) and the West should be more worried about Sunni radicalism then Shiite radicalism
You should be more worried about the warmongering Neocon Zioinists than any other radical group. What bullshit this is about Iran being a "threat" to the West. They haven't invaded another sovereign country in 200 years.
+100 thank you bay of pigs!
Hasbara out in full force tonight!
I've had a few beers, so I'm hoping my sarc detector is on the fritz here.
LMAO...uh huh- I suggest a boiler maker at this point.
I'll just have some rum!
Thanks!
"the radical Sunnis (remember the ones that did 911?)"
You're joking, right?
F lame On!
.... the sound of the fudgepacker's voice is like fingernails dragged across a blackboard....
Neville Chamberlain?
I know right?, sucks to make a mistake in the fight club...
not the shelter island sculptor?
thanks for straightening things out.
Maybe you mean Neville.At least the first thing he did on his return from Munich
was double defense spending. He is given a bad rap in history.My
avatar would have nothing without him saying one thing,and doing another.
I think your namesake said of Mr. Chamberlain something along the lines of 'history will not be kind to Mr. Chamberlain, as I intend to write the history'
If you would like to read some very well researched stuff regarding WC, go to
http://www.fpp.co.uk/books/Churchill/1/index.html
Worth the read, and free download too. Can't beat that!
Winston was a self-interested, warmongering drunkard.
There's more, but they were his better traits.
the importance of timing.
The Neville Brothers were avaunt guard at the time.
http://www.nevilles.com/
Was it not Churchill at the Tehran conferences in 1943 where he urged Chiang Kai-shek to invade and control south east Asia. Chiang Kai-shek refused and Winston had a temper tantrum.
FDR is quoted as saying "calm down Winston not everyone was born an imperialist".
Winston was indeed warmongering elitist.
Yes Tehran how ironic.
You're not taking this well.
Iran stated that they don't even have an agreed to "understanding". More grandstanding by the liar-in-chief and propped up by the MSM.
Chamberlain? Good one. Very original. That's been the Republican line now for a while. Watch Fox News much?
Just more bullshit and lies...
Yes, but what you don't understand is, they are professionals.
ValJar and company whipping the horses, on towards Apocalypse!
Do any world leaders seriously respect the US anymore?
" Do any world leaders seriously respect the US anymore?"
PM Harper from Canada does but he is a craven reptile whose puppet masters are Zionists.
I don't think Mr. Harper's actions signal respect, just total ass licking.
Other than that, i think your description is bang-on!
that's the Easter Horse !
If you call him TRIGGER... he'll surely be pissed!
If I had a horse that looked like Kerry , I would call the knackers, and
he would already be cooling in his cans.
Shergar?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1576718/The-truth-about-Shergar-r...
The communist party thanks you John.
which commie party? the one hiding out in a basement in former east Germany? or where exactly, and don't say China as the system there is termed a totalitarian capitalist state.
The ones embedded in the humanities departments of our universities?
can we now PLEASE put all the warmongers on an island for a while, give them wooden swords or so (maybe make a liveshow out of it, dunno) and go on with peaceprocesses? cause its possible.
So how do you plan to round up the warmongers, considering they are probably packing armies? Oh right, war!
There cannot ever be peace. There must always be war. It is human nature. Get used to it. Get used to the idea you have to fight for what you believe in. Unicorns don't exist and rainbows are just mirages and there is no pot of gold. You wanna be happy? Where is it written by a higher power than man that you should be happy? Life is struggle and then you die. Get over it.
Warmongers become overlords about 5 seconds after you believe they've put down their arms and are ready for peace. I fucking hate unicorns.
I also hate double posts.
"go on with peaceprocesses? cause its possible."
No it is not possible, not by human means. Have you ever read history?
The only way that peace will be brought to this earth is through the Prince of Peace (Isaiah 9:6)
Since the Noble committee scuttled the FUCKING JACKASS who got Barry the prize, let's see if the fix is in for John.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/03/us-nobel-peace-idUSKBN0LZ1UW20...
who thinks this is a setup for failure
If Netanyahu wants failure, there will be failure. Nuland and McCain will jack each other off and Graham and Bolton will drool.
Another Ramirez ............
Why the long face, bunny?
so many interesting cartoon on the hedge late lie.
the rabbi rupert murdoch owner of fox and vice network did he buy this joint or
what already?
and of agreement
even mongo would not believe anything unkle sam says or does
all that matters is the gathering of new souls for the talmud
Anyone who believes the US will live up to this deal probably believes in the tooth fairy.
The tooth fairy left me coins under my pillow. This "deal", not so much.
I'm not John Kerry. I did not downvote you.
Hey Kerry....why the long face???
"A horse is a horse of course of course...."
Peace in our time
Up arrow - "I more trust Iran to keep an agreement than the US"
Down arrow - "I more trust the US to keep an agreement than Iran"
up arrow +100
Iran has meticulously respected the agreement with Reagan which was incidentally not brought to congress for approval.
John Kerry is really John Kohn.
Rebranded, not remade.
The banksters need to repay us.
Noiz
is there a counter party that will adhere
to this non-agreement agreement?
or,
are there actual party's here or is the
entire discussion a narrative for a
sound nights sleep, made of whole cloth?
Nobody in the world, with even a remnant of a functionaing brain, believes this vacuous "agreement" is anything but political chicanery by the Ovomit coven.
A deception by the myriad demons squatting in the white mosque on Pennsylvania Avenue.
1953...
Kermit
truck stop toilet paper has more value...NEXT!
It's like paying to name a star after you. Is there anybody out there who thinks that's going to last?
Treaties?! What are they worth?
Ask the Indians.
One could also think of the Constitution as a kind of treaty with the states and people.
A pack of toilet paper is worth more than a treaty with the DC US.
The banksters need to repay us.
For those so inclined and in need of some sardonic humor, go here and read how NPR spins for empire the broken treaties that the Smithsonian has on display.
From the link: "People always think of broken treaties and the bad paper and the bad acts, and that is our reality. But it didn't begin there. It began on an honorable footing," she says." So it's okay to be dishonest and dishonorable if you had good intentions before you were dishonest and dishonorable?! LOL
Why is ZH spouting neocon claptrap?
I agree with you. Some of these cartoons are brutal.
Why are you making dumb ass comments?
Why are you an Israeli tool?
Looks like everyone missed the 'carpet' saying, 'stupid is as stupid does'
Anyone who believes the Iranians will live up to this agreement prop ably believes in talking horses.
Mister Ed??
lol
Wiiiiillllllburrrrrr.
Anybody who believes the U.S will live up to any agreement with Iran probably believes in the Easter bunny.
There fixed that for ya.
Anyone who believes Obama while live up to any agreement he makes probably believes in the Easter Bunny!!
Fix it right back atcha
How many "red" lines are there in this obamanation?
Kerry is a duplicitous faux Chosenite masquerading as an apostate Catholic......an anti-american demoniac in the first rank of Ovomit's coven of demons.....a moral and ethical disease.
If that's John Effing Kerry's outfit then Barry's outfit would be the Noid from dominos pizza. Because everyone wants to avoid THAT Noid.
http://www.demeterclarc.com/wp-content/uploads/images/2013/10/THE-NOID.jpg
bring a deal dammit, any deal. We'll fix it later, just like ACA!
Good work commentors you earned some serious government shill down arrows today. Keep it up.
The South was right!
You damn straight the South was right. The difference now is that the other parts have been settled so we need 5 different countries, at least, not two.
Must have got that cartoon out of the Israel times. Strange behaviour from Obama lately, almost as if his testicles are descending.
Those aren't testicles. They are demon eggs from his alien ovaries.
You have been duped.
Iranians would be fools to think that the USSA isn't setting them up for a slaughter. Is there a reason the USSA doesn't mess with N Korea ?
Yes, there is a reason. North Korea has nothing worth fighting for or controlling.
Do you trust Iran? Do you trust Kerry/Obama? Do you trust Netayahoo? Do you trust the neo-cons? Do you trust the media? Everything any government says is a lie.
They want you to want war. They want you to emote. They want you to obey. They want; you oblige.
The US stood up to Israel. Never thought I'd see the day.
The Soetoro/Ovomit/Kerry/Kohn coven didn't "stand-up" to anyone, they caved to their brothers-in-satan to facilitate the expansion of satanic power on earth. We have further alienated every ally we had on earth. No one can trust Ovomit.
We grow weaker and more isolated every day under this destroyer and his evil wonks. He has accomplished a great deal in his Sorosian plan to diminish America. The entire world will ultimately pay dearly for the ascension to power of this putative POTUS.
Shame on us.
"The entire world will ultimately pay dearly for the ascension to power of this putative POTUS."
Correction:
He's not POTUS,
He's LOTUS*
*LOTUS —Liar Of The United States
Michael Ramirez is an idiot who never gets the point. I think Ramirez’s job depends on not getting the point. The negotiations were worthless from the start. Iran never intended and never intends to produce a nuclear weapon. This is all an Israeli/US Kabuki sham which Iran never needed to attend. I.E. there is no there there.
Perhaps Israel just needed their bitching points to be confirmed.
Michael Ramirez is an idiot who never gets the point. I think Ramirez’s job depends on not getting the point. The negotiations were worthless from the start. Iran never intended and never intends to produce a nuclear weapon. This is all an Israeli/US Kabuki sham which Iran never needed to attend. I.E. there is no there there.
Perhaps Israel just needed their bitching points to be confirmed.
Crossbreeding rabbits and horses is unnatural
Rabbits, horses and camels all have the same digestive sytem, possessing a large cecum.
Coincidink???...I think not.
http://www.locutions.org/2015/03/7-when-the-iran-nuclear-treaty-is-signed/