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Californians Outraged As Oil Producers & Frackers Excluded From Emergency Water Restrictions

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California's oil and gas industry is estimated (with official data due to be released in coming days) to use more than 2 million gallons of fresh water per day; so it is hardly surprising that, as Reuters reports, Californians are outraged after discovering that these firms are excluded from Governor Jerry Brown's mandatory water restrictions, "forcing ordinary Californians to shoulder the burden of the drought."

From Reuters,

California should require oil producers to cut their water usage as part of the administration’s efforts to conserve water in the drought-ravaged state, environmentalists said on Wednesday.

 

Governor Jerry Brown ordered the first statewide mandatory water restrictions on Wednesday, directing cities and communities to cut their consumption by 25 percent. But the order does not require oil producers to cut their usage nor does it place a temporary halt on the water intensive practice of hydraulic fracturing.

 

California’s oil and gas industry uses more than 2 million gallons of fresh water a day to produce oil through well stimulation practices including fracking, acidizing and steam injection, according to estimates by environmentalists. The state is expected to release official numbers on the industry’s water consumption in the coming days.

 

“Governor Brown is forcing ordinary Californians to shoulder the burden of the drought by cutting their personal water use while giving the oil industry a continuing license to break the law and poison our water,” said Zack Malitz of environmental group Credo.

 

“Fracking and toxic injection wells may not be the largest uses of water in California, but they are undoubtedly some of the stupidest,” he said.

 

The industry has received scrutiny for how it disposes of undrinkable water produced during oil drilling. Last month the state ordered the operators of 12 wells to halt injections of the water out of fear that it could contaminate fresh drinking water supplies.

 

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In an interview with the PBS Newshour on Wednesday, Brown indicated that curbing oil industry water use would not help a state so dependent on petroleum products such as gasoline and diesel.

 

“If we don’t take it out of our ground, we’ll take it out of someone else’s,” Brown said.

Suck it up, or well don't as the case may be, serfs.

 

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Fri, 04/03/2015 - 15:04 | 5956677 Magooo
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The End of Cheap Oil  (published 1998)

 

Global production of conventional oil will begin to decline sooner than most people think, probably within 10 years http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-end-of-cheap-oil/

 

 

Jean H. Laherrère is a petroleum engineer and consultant, best known as the co-author of an influential 1998 Scientific American article entitled "The End of Cheap Oil".[1] Laherrère worked for 37 years with Total S.A., a French petroleum company. His work on seismic refraction surveys contributed to the discovery of Africa's largest oil field. [1]

 

 

Since retiring from Total, Laherrère has consulted worldwide on the future of exploration and production of oil and natural gas. He is an active member of the Association for the Study of Peak Oil and Gas, and continues to contribute detailed analyses and projections of the future of world energy production. [2]

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 15:02 | 5956678 goldenbuddha454
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1969 man on the moon, 1978 first test tube baby, 1990's Al Gore created the internet, 2015 California can't find way to desalinate water from the pacific ocean

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 15:03 | 5956685 The Duke of New...
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CA residents thrown under the Bus kinda like what Bernanke did to Seniors when making his Banker buddies whole from their bad decisions ....

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz1lwc25ox1rnua94o1_500.gif

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 15:05 | 5956691 Stay Frosty
Fri, 04/03/2015 - 15:06 | 5956694 unplugged
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without water, manscaping will turn into manscraping

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 15:19 | 5956715 Magooo
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The question is --- if enough people down vote the facts --- does it mean we are UN-FUCKED?

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 15:26 | 5956738 BigRedRider
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Meh, I never drink water.  Ever see what it does to pipes?

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 15:28 | 5956741 swass
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If I were in California, I'd be pissed too.  I'm no greenie, although I consider myself to be very respectful of the environment, but fracking is really a complete waste of fresh water supplies, especially in a drought.

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 15:28 | 5956744 Atomizer
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Never let a unfunded union pension crisis go to waste. 

Breaking Bad secular expansion with EPA tied up with Climate change directives. This will be fun to watch when all hell breakaway. 

Caddyshack Gopher Montage

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U4xuZMpmXtc

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 15:41 | 5956778 RichardParker
Fri, 04/03/2015 - 17:01 | 5957000 jomama
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To most Californians, the irrigated, fertile Central Valley seemed a natural occurrence, not an environmental anomaly made possible only through the foresight of a now-forgotten generation of engineers and hydrologists.

This article is such a load of shit. Most of the SF bay area and the central valley used to be wetlands - the flood irrigation those brilliant planners employed destroyed the topsoil for hundreds of square miles and ruining arable land that took hundreds of thousands of years - if not millions - to create.

On top of it all, the author is trying to pin the water crisis on 'liberals'. Laughable.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 06:17 | 5958222 conscious being
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Tullare County, Ca Central, aka San Jaquin Valley. Tulare means something like reeds. The whole place was a giant swamp. Now its a dust bowl.

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 15:52 | 5956796 orez65
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"Californians are outraged ..."

The rest of the United States is OUTRAGED about what a bunch of ass holes Californians are!

You reap what you sow!

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 16:09 | 5956846 Bear
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This is good ... set people against one another; race vs race, Heritage vs Heritage, old vs young, greens vs others, gays vs straight, religion vs religion, right vs left now region vs region. This is the way the TPTB keep us occupied as they spin the truth and rape at will. We the People will only prevail if we recognize and stand against the real evil ... bankers, media, and their governmental puppets.

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 16:13 | 5956865 farmerbraun
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But I thought that each of the States in the U.S.  was semi-autonomous. 

Or did I just dream that. 

Are you saying that the states are fighting against each other?

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 16:18 | 5956886 Really20
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True indeed. None of our petty culture war conflicts matter at all in the fight against bank creation of money and the usury of interest, profits, and rents that inevitably comes with it.

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 15:56 | 5956806 Atomizer
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Humans need water to supervise operations, drones need new coke plant infrastructure electricity grids to refuel a 30 minute battery-powered drone. The cost benefit analysis will show whether humans or drones will doglap quantative sleezing one more round. 

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 16:00 | 5956823 rsnoble
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I bet Hollywood Hills doesn't turn brown.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 06:20 | 5958223 conscious being
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I thought it always was arid. At least the hill the big sign is on has always looked pretty dry.

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 16:02 | 5956827 farmerbraun
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I thought that most of the water that is used in California for agriculture was being exported,  in vegetables and fruit , to other states, and the real problem is the fact that California is bankrupt and cannot afford to close down this source of income.

 

This exporting of water and food is probably relatively unsustainable anyway , but isn't that actually the problem? California is an unsustainable civilisation?

 

If it is , then nothing needs to be done: it will go away all by itself.

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 16:03 | 5956829 Atomizer
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I want drones to prevail. We can sent a signal to block their reception. They just fall from the sky. No different than mobile phone signal jamming. Huge market on this old technology, all about frequency blocking. 

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 18:42 | 5957354 Parrotile
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I'd imagine that Commercial UAVs have a very great degree of autonomy, which will certainly include routines to allow a controlled (i.e. non-damaging) landing should external command links fail. It is more than likely that there will be a standard "return to base" routiine embedded, so your jamming efforts might be very fruitless.

Seeing as these devices will be costly, you may safely bet thet should a "return to base" situation occur, theUAV will cease to respond to ANY external commands, on the reasonable premise that such commands will be unauthorised - i.e. simply "switching off" their receive link.

It's not as if Autonomous Flight capability hasn't been around in the Hobbyist RC worls for a significant time - lots of "off the shelf" systems, e.g. - http://boingboing.net/2009/02/05/autonomous-aerial-dr.html (24 DOLLAR Autopilot . . . . .)

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 06:24 | 5958225 conscious being
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And Iran did not commandeer a drone, forcing it to land so they could have a look-see. /s

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-21373353

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 19:25 | 5959595 Parrotile
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Which makes one wonder if the US MIC really care a hoot about their taxpayer-funded "toys"!

Or, perhaps the local population are a LOT smarter than the West seems to think (which is very likely the case)!!

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 16:11 | 5956854 juicy_bananas
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Just keep worrying about some podunk pizza parlor that doesn't want to kowtow to rump raiders while your limited natural resources are stolen right under your nose. Suckers!

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 16:12 | 5956856 pupdog1
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I guarantee that six months from now, every golf course in LA will look as lush as a tropical rain forest.

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 16:13 | 5956860 Atomizer
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Bet Amazon is shitting their pants. Without a GPS encryption endpoint. They are a lost dog in the woods. If end user for delivery decides to block frequency, drone will end up as as Amelia Earhart plane crash. 

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 16:28 | 5956864 not a yahoo
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I think no one got the gist of this. 25% is a monumental cut, on top of existing measures too. To top that off, to even have some certainty to get there, they will be shooting for 50% measures. You know this is final when they are doing away with all lawns.

California is done. Over. Get it?? Ie. depression.

In a month or so, when the cities have figures out the rules, no lawns will be sprinkled anymore here: if a city cannot afford to help convert private lawn properties into cactus and stone sets, they will just hike the water price to desert-gold levels. At best it will look like Arizona, more likely, Detroit. In any case, here's the long awaited housing collapse of California. Finally. unfortunately, it will suck even more living here.

As far as the frack watering goes, I think at this point nobody gives a shit. Basically, the big issue is agriculture, but then it isn't a big issue for California really: basically, it will go away. As a % of state gdp, it's only 2% or so. They will pump ground water for as long as they can; it will be exhausted this year, and since they won't get any water from the state, you got a farming depression/exodus as well.

Why do you think Baja California is not super popular/populated with all its coastline? Right, water.

 

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 16:29 | 5956922 silverer
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Will a 25% cut for 75% less water work, or is this a new Keynesian faucet?

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 18:44 | 5957362 TheGreatRecovery
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Apparently, there is no Quantitative Easing magic for water.  :0)

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 16:13 | 5956866 Really20
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The reasons for these water crises are the expansive suburban houses that define Californian population centers, and the large amount of animal agriculture (especially beef cattle) that takes place in the state. (Although the massive fruit orchards do not help either.)

Per a Cornell University study:

Producing 1 kg of animal protein requires about 100 times more water than producing 1 kg of grain protein (8). Livestock directly uses only 1.3% of the total water used in agriculture. However, when the water required for forage and grain production is included, the water requirements for livestock production dramatically increase. For example, producing 1 kg of fresh beef may require about 13 kg of grain and 30 kg of hay (17). This much forage and grain requires about 100 000 L of water to produce the 100 kg of hay, and 5400 L for the 4 kg of grain.

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/660S.full

We need to stop exhorting people to perform insignificant tasks like installing low-flow shower heads, plugging leaks in their homes, and the like. The big violators need to be taken to task. Quotas on meat production, and export of forage and grain for meat production from the state, must be imposed immediately. The construction of new suburban housing, with the attendant lawns and gardens, needs to stop and decrepit suburban homes in areas like Los Angeles need to be converted into higher-density, more water-friendly developments.

Of course, both massive meat consumption and suburban housing are part of the "American dream" that drive us into a cycle of debt, sickness, and more debt for the benefit of the very rich.

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 16:14 | 5956869 WhyWait
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How many gallons a day of aquafer water are being poisoned forever by the frackers?  

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 16:37 | 5956904 Atomizer
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Double post

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 16:33 | 5956934 Atomizer
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Geez Wally, why not produce the sited figures so we can have a healthy debate. Don't forget to include T Boone Pickens Water World statisics in selling from his pond of water. Awaiting your facts. 

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 16:20 | 5956896 Atomizer
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Insurance companies are baiting new growth forecast on untested home drone deliveries. Jack up 25% per delivery and hope 2% reaches the final destination point. Wish I was this evil, you have fucked yourself again. Watching in complete humor. 

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 16:24 | 5956907 silverer
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Since California requires their own special gasoline, no screwed up energy deals would surprise me.  Anyone remember Mad Magazine's "Lou's Potato Chips - the only chips fried in crude oil!"   So you really need that black gold.  Water is way over-rated, lol.

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 16:30 | 5956926 unicorn
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wanted to post a link to a film from 1985 called brazil, where the technicians get their suit filled with sh*t, but youtube is dead, unusable, everythings forbidden, except for big corporations.

anybody knowing the film will know the scene im talking about; for who doesnt know the film has to see it anyway. in whole you can whatch it on youtube, but not the funny snipplets.:(

 

do politicians allowing such behaviour get payed in dozens? do they have their own  panders?

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 16:40 | 5956949 Toolshed
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Brazil was one awesome head spinner of a movie.

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 18:45 | 5957364 TheGreatRecovery
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BRAZIL, the movie, is SO wonderful!  :-)

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 06:36 | 5958229 conscious being
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Unicorn, try this with Russian voice-over. Brakalachia.

http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?list=PLt7eG-42G17cq-FT_nEtSke9-arAwgY1I&pa...

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 07:10 | 5958246 radiobomb
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Yeah Unicorn !..... Brazil was an excellent film from Terry Gilliam [Monty Python], dark comedy at it's best with an Orwell'esque future and overwhelming paperwork. Highly recommended. Inc false flag incident and work-place espionage, ... ahead of the curve with concepts- & 60's retro-tech !

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 16:48 | 5956969 Atomizer
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Bilderberg and Club of Rome are running out of bullshit ideas to mandate mother nature. I laughed at the Paris car ban and police ticketing to instill fear or buy a new car. Campaign: Debt owned car loans for new car loan credit expansion. 

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 16:55 | 5956983 scatha
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Another fake water crisis under guise of real and severe drought so politicians can earn their political "contributions" from oil interests and utilities that continue to extort exuberant money from California residents.

I found interesting take on what is really going on in California, and who is actually causing this water crisis at:

https://sostratusworks.wordpress.com/2015/03/28/california-waterworld-of...

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 17:31 | 5957091 TuPhat
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Californians love to be ordered around by their gov.  Whether it concerns water or anything else.  They only get upset when someone is exempt from the orders. 

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 17:34 | 5957102 suckerfishzilla
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This may provoke Californians to organize marches and drum circles.  Heads up. 

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 17:37 | 5957118 Village-idiot
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This just shows how idiotic and short-sighted Californians are.

They want all those fancy (expensive) social programs but never consider where the money is coming from to pay for them.

Well, I've got news for you, energy industries pay millions in taxes and royalties to the California state government. Without those energy industries you'd be $h!t-out-of-luck.

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 18:17 | 5957292 Tegrat
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I say stop all access to oil and it's byproducts in California for anyone who moans. 4-9% profit margin. Disgusingting but the 7-10% tax ok?

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 18:41 | 5957352 q99x2
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Since when did people start thinking they were more important than oilygarchs?

Long live the revolution. If you want to stop the injustices stop Lloyd Blankfein, Jamie Dimon and the Rothschild banking system.

Good luck and God's speed.

Sun, 04/05/2015 - 10:09 | 5957355 TheGreatRecovery
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CALIFORNIA HOMEOWNERS!  I understand that sandspurs are very drought-tolerant.  Perhaps, therefore, they might make "environmentally-friendly water-saving" substitutes for residential turfgrass .  :-)

Sun, 04/05/2015 - 10:11 | 5960682 TheGreatRecovery
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Hey, GreatRecovery (whatever that means) some of us CALIFORNIA HOMEOWNERS just might call our State Representatives and ask if we can come over and help them by planting sandspurs in THEIR yards.  Waddaya think of THAT?

Sun, 04/05/2015 - 10:12 | 5960686 TheGreatRecovery
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Thank you for your comment.  I have plenty of extras in my yard you can come over and dig up and transplant if you want.  Does Saturday work for you?

Sun, 04/05/2015 - 10:15 | 5960694 TheGreatRecovery
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Saturday I have to carry water.  We are going down to the River with a whole lot of 1-gallon milk jugs and get water.  If there is any.  Do you know whether the Gov will be sending any helicopters to the River to catch water juggers on Saturday?

Sun, 04/05/2015 - 10:26 | 5960700 TheGreatRecovery
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Sorry, no.  But there are plenty of drones for sale, so maybe we can get a drone network working down at the River to spy on any helicopters that are spying on the water juggers.

Sun, 04/05/2015 - 10:26 | 5960727 TheGreatRecovery
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Wow!  All this infrastructure DOES get complicated.

Sun, 04/05/2015 - 10:27 | 5960730 TheGreatRecovery
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Yes, I know.  But sandspurs are NOT complicated.  Good luck to you.  :-)

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 19:10 | 5957458 disgruntled hou...
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How about kicking out the likes of Nestle, Coca Cola, and Pepsi from bottling water? I recall when we were reduced to begging to find out how much municipal water these folks were bottling up and selling back to us at 7000% profit (I don't remember the actual figure but it was high.) They didn't even treat the stuff, just slapped a label on the bottle and ran to the bank with the profits. In the end we were not given the figure and the matter went away. This should stop. I can't turn on my tap and have gas flow but I can with water. These companies have some serious muscle. Back east a small town experiencing a drought saw its hospital bringing in water trucks but the local water bottling business had the spigots running the same speed as usual- no cut back for them. We live in a sick country. No one challenges big banks or big businesses- we have no leaders.

CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM IS ALL WE CAN DO AND INFORM THE WALMART CROWD.

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 19:41 | 5957516 mijev
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If it's true that the average american uses 300 gallons of water per day and there's close to 40M people living in california then 2M gallons used in the oil industry isn't huge.

 

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 21:36 | 5957812 Its_the_economy...
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i call BS

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 22:18 | 5957870 mijev
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It would make it easier if you could actually tell us what you're calling BS on.

Sun, 04/05/2015 - 10:21 | 5960712 TheGreatRecovery
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I believe I read that the average American uses 100 gallons of water per day IN HIS HOME.  I don't argue with the other 200 gallons of water per day per American, but I think that might be agricultural and industrial usage.  You can check your water bill, of course.  But 40-million people is still, IMHO, WAY TOO MANY.  This might be a good time for the local newspapers to publish tables and graphs showing where all the water in California is coming from and who is using it, and what industries and agriculture and so forth.  I bet SOMEBODY will start publishing such tables and graphs.

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 19:42 | 5957522 mijev
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A little OT but when I first migrated to CA the state government sent me a booklet and the first papragrpah stated that California is the country's largest producer of fruits, nuts and vegetables. No shit Sherlock.

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 20:52 | 5957708 petroglyph
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Can't Monsanto help Cal. somehow by developing strains of imitation agriculture that doesn't need as much water?

Totally plastic food, made from fracking waste sounds yummy.

That 2 million gallons by the fracking industry is a misprint, imo. That has to be 2 million per day or per well. All the workers setting up a drilling platform flushing twice a day is 2 million gallons. Somebody ooffed.

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 21:33 | 5957805 directaction
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Two million gallons, lol, it's off by at least three or four orders of magnitude. 

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 23:24 | 5957966 MEAN BUSINESS
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Sooner or later Implied Violins will get a sore neck from "just looking up" and will come login to clear all this confusing data up for us. 

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 21:34 | 5957806 Porous Horace
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I don't get it. People who demand that the government redistribute wealth and resources are outraged that the government is redistributing wealth and resources from those with no political clout to those with political clout? What did they expect?

Sun, 04/05/2015 - 10:23 | 5960720 TheGreatRecovery
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:-)  Thank you.  Best post ever!

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 21:35 | 5957809 Its_the_economy...
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Yeah, but its a dry heat.

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 23:46 | 5957989 MEAN BUSINESS
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greenie for the "dry" humor Dude AWESOME lols!!!<not sarc (On a dry note would you and SavvyinDallas<sic?> please do something about using the same avatar. TIA. Keep 'em comin' Telly Savalases!

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 22:16 | 5957864 AmarUtu
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WOW how does it feel to be less important than a corporation to your state Californians?

Whatever America has become, its evil now and it has spread across the globe, we have the same scum corporates down here in Ausland, case in point red Haliburton trucks ruining the land and draining the water for profits putting our water tables at risk leaving the damage to be dealt with by future generations, much like the debt.

If you don't do something soon, you might as well not even have children, because they will be in a living hell, if they are not already.

Although I must admit I expect you to elect another Bush or worse, Hillary, hope and change for more enslavement and destruction of the planet and its peoples at the hand of the US Govt the MIC its bankers and corporates.

And to think you had been warned on more than 1 occasion that this would happen, yet you sat back and done nothing, and still do nothing but bitch and moan on the internet all day.

To a normal person this all seems impossible, they have empathy, feeling and emotion, the need to engage people on a personal level, it has become very obvious to me that the majority of leadership positions are now being filled by psychopaths or personality disorders. AWESOME!!! 

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 23:00 | 5957936 Sweet Cheeks
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Think you might be ready to give up oil?
OK.  
Then you must not only give up gasoline, but plastics, fertilizer for agriculture, aspirin, many vitamins, golf balls, tires including those for bicycles, cosmetics, nylons, floor tile, and jet fuel.  Try producing any of that with solar power.  Go ahead, we will wait on you while you work in the lab.

Oh, and one final thing, since CA has one of the highest gasoline taxes in the nation at 63 cents per gallon (18.4 is federal). state and local government would suffer greatly without this source of revenue. 

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 06:50 | 5958235 conscious being
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Dude, they get the gasoline tax you are refering to wether the oil was fracked within the state or extracted someplace outside.

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 22:22 | 5957877 surf0766
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When do they print EBT water credits to load up on the 1st of each month.. Fair share and all..comrades

 

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 22:27 | 5957886 Dre4dwolf
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nothing left but corporations

corpse operations.

As in

Turn everyone into corpses for profit.

Sun, 04/05/2015 - 10:24 | 5960723 TheGreatRecovery
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Dang!  I think you have something there.  Might that actually be the derivation of the term "corporation"?  Epiphany!  Thank you.

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 22:54 | 5957927 TNTARG
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Well, Californians may died thirsty but happy on their running cars.

It's called Corporate Capitalism, folks.

Lobbying (also lobby) is the act of attempting to influence decisions made by officials in the government, most often legislators or members of regulatory agencies. Lobbying is done by many types of people, associations and organized groups, including individuals in the private sector, corporations, fellow legislators or government officials, or advocacy groups (interest groups). (Just Wiki).

It's legal in the US, and corporations have much more money than citizens, "individuals"...

Either you lobby properly, change the law or take it as it is.

 

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 22:59 | 5957935 Joe A
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Let them drink oil. Or fracked water.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 00:43 | 5958034 bunnyswanson
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Ah, fuck you joe.  California is filled with fags, mentally ill, and illegal field workers most think.  Oklahoma dust storm sent millions here and most of the land owners in the agricultural areas are "Oakies."  East coast saw many flee the winters. 

 

In 20 minuts, I can be in the Sierra Nevada mountains fishing/cramping, in 2.5 hours, from where I sit, I can be in Yosemite or the central coast, in 4 hours, I can be in SF or LA (theater, concerts, shopping), in 5 hours I can be in Lake Tahoe, Las Vegas. 

I have been in nearly every state of the USA, including Florida and Texas, WAshington, NY - give me the name of a state that can provide tourist spots that people around the globe spend thousands to get to fucker.

The fire sale of resources - sucking up every last mineral that will sell, even at a loss, is what they are doing.

MILK HER DRY - that is what is happening in both US and Canada.  Max keiser says fracking is being done at a loss.  so why the fuck do you think they are doing it?  Storing the fuel?  I do not know but it is a free-for-all and I really did think a planetary event was underway and this was the reason the big money interests have thrown caution to the wind.  but, I was wrong, they are choking us/cutting off our food/air/water supply,leaving us in debt and jobless.  This is palatable form of murder.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 01:23 | 5958059 Joe A
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The problem is, people and businesses put short term profit over long term interest. They don't think 10 years down the line. And problems? "Future generations can sort that out", that is the attitude. The predications of the Club of Rome are still on track. Unless we drastically change our modes of production and consumption (and the use of energy to make that possible) expect system collapse in 30 years. Now, that will be one big correction!

 

Oh, and fuck you too ;-)

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 04:01 | 5958162 Victor999
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I don't think we have 30 years.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 07:13 | 5958248 Joe A
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You might be right.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 10:37 | 5958508 Niall Of The Ni...
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Fuck the Club of Rome. Their goal was to get Americans and Europeans to voluntarily go extinct and make way for a proletariat too stupid to be threat to their rule. Even by the standards of 1970 Keynesian economics their model was so laughably crude as to be useless for anything but frightening people. Forcing people to live within their means is why we have a price system, even mainstream economists pointed out.

Not to mention that when Limits to Growth was written our masters were working overtime to see that all the natural limits to African and Indian mud people's breeding like rabbits were removed. 

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 11:17 | 5958579 Joe A
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Some professor recently reran their numbers and they they proved to be on track. World population increasing and resources getting scarcer. The world's ecosystems are seriously damaged and deteriorated. The carrying capacity of the world is reaching its limits.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 22:41 | 5960061 Niall Of The Ni...
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Fine. Re-introduce smallpox and knock the Turd World's population back to a manageable size. Problem solved.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 08:07 | 5958281 didthatreallyhappen
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California isn't filled with fags, mentally ill, and illegal field workers?

 

judging by their voting patterns, how can we argue otherwise?

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 09:26 | 5958385 SirBarksAlot
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What about that huge cloud of radiated water from Japan that NORAD has been holding over the ocean for years? 

http://www.oaklandmofo.com/blog/nuclear-fallout-radiation-japan-california

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 16:23 | 5959213 Village-idiot
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Sounds like you need to apply for that one-way trip to Mars!

Fri, 04/03/2015 - 23:22 | 5957962 razorthin
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That California swill they call wine might actually be drinkable in 2017.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 07:39 | 5958257 T-NUTZ
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get an education and pay up a bit.  Cali has the kind in abundance.  

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 10:20 | 5958483 Niall Of The Ni...
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Don't laugh too loud---the humiliation received by Euro wine growers in taste tests by "Two Buck Chuck" is the stuff of legend even now.

Anyway, the wine will move north to wetter states. Ontario still has plenty.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 00:17 | 5958012 DarthVaderMentor
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I wonder how the DNC and governor Moonbeam will be able to blame either the Bushes or Reagan for this little example of environmental regulations corruption?

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 02:11 | 5958085 Peter Pan
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I am coming right at the end of all the comments but is it possible to use grey water for fracking and mining?

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 12:38 | 5958743 BeansMcGreens
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This is a very interesting thought.

Here in the east they truck all this water in for fracking, so why not use grey water that has been somewhat treated? They use it for lawn irrigation.

Your comment is why i read zh.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 16:19 | 5959206 Village-idiot
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The problem with "grey water" is that you really don't know what chemicals may be in it.

Fracking needs clean water to control whatever chemical reactions may just happen when everything is mixed together.

Also, the high pressures used may just ignite some volatile element in the water.

No, I reckon that idea has already been considered and rejected.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 02:13 | 5958086 KashNCarry
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We fracked some people...

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 02:42 | 5958110 damicol
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Why don't they get that faggot Cook to distract them with some more fucking faggots rights laws.

surely that more important to Cfers than drinking water

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 08:23 | 5958301 lakecity55
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As Governor, I am calling for a 25% decrease in Buggery. It makes you thirsty. As over 50% of  our state is gay, this would save more water.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 03:09 | 5958128 vegan
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It's funny how many people say they're concerned about water use, but still eat animal products...

http://www.cowspiracy.com/facts/

...

Fracking (hydraulic fracturing) water use ranges from 70-140 billion gallons annually.

“Draft Plan to Study the Potential Impacts of Hydraulic Fracturing on Drinking Water Resources.” EPA Office of Research and Development. United States Environmental Protection Agency, 2011.

http://www2.epa.gov/sites/production/files/documents/HFStudyPlanDraft_SAB_020711.pdf

Animal agriculture use ranges from 34-76 trillion gallons of water annually. [ii]

Pimentel, David, et al. “Water Resources: Agricultural And Environmental Issues.” BioScience 54, no. 10 (2004): 909-18.

http://bioscience.oxfordjournals.org/content/54/10/909.full

Barber, N.L., “Summary of estimated water use in the United States in 2005: U.S. Geological Survey Fact Sheet 2009–3098.”

http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2009/3098/

Agriculture is responsible for 80-90% of US water consumption.

“USDA ERS – Irrigation & Water Use.” United States Department of Agriculture Economic Research Service. 2013.

http://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/farm-practices-management/irrigation-water-use/background.aspx

Growing feed crops for livestock consumes 56% of water in the US.

Jacobson, Michael F. “More and Cleaner Water.” In Six Arguments for a Greener Diet: How a More Plant-based Diet Could save Your Health and the Environment.
Washington, DC: Center for Science in the Public Interest, 2006.

http://www.cspinet.org/EatingGreen/pdf/arguments4.pdf

One hamburger requires 660 gallons of water to produce – the equivalent of 2 months’ worth of showers. [iii]

Catanese, Christina. “Virtual Water, Real Impacts.” Greenversations: Official Blog of the U.S. EPA. 2012.

http://blog.epa.gov/healthywaters/2012/03/virtual-water-real-impacts-world-water-day-2012/

“50 Ways to Save Your River.” Friends of the River.

http://www.friendsoftheriver.org/site/PageServer?pagename=50ways

2,500 gallons of water are needed to produce 1 pound of beef.

Robbins, John. “2,500 Gallons, All Wet?” EarthSave

http://www.earthsave.org/environment/water.htm

Meateater’s Guide to Climate Change & Health.” Environmental Working Group.

http://www.ewg.org/meateatersguide/interactive-graphic/water/

“Water Footprint Assessment.” University of Twente, the Netherlands.

http://www.waterfootprint.org

Oppenlander, Richard A. Food Choice and Sustainability: Why Buying Local, Eating Less Meat, and Taking Baby Steps Won’t Work. Minneapolis, MN: Langdon Street, 2013. Print

...

1,000 gallons of water are required to produce 1 gallon of milk.

“Water trivia facts.” United States Environmental Protection Agency.

http://water.epa.gov/learn/kids/drinkingwater/water_trivia_facts.cfm#_edn11

5% of water consumed in the US is by private homes.
55% of water consumed in the US is for animal agriculture.

Jacobson, Michael F. “More and Cleaner Water.” In Six Arguments for a Greener Diet: How a More Plant-based Diet Could save Your Health and the Environment. Washington, DC: Center for Science in the Public Interest, 2006.

http://www.cspinet.org/EatingGreen/pdf/arguments4.pdf

Oppenlander, Richard A. Food Choice and Sustainability: Why Buying Local, Eating Less Meat, and Taking Baby Steps Won’t Work. Minneapolis, MN: Langdon Street, 2013. Print.

The meat and dairy industries combined use nearly 1/3 (29%) of all the fresh water in the world today.

“Freshwater Abuse and Loss: Where Is It All Going?” Forks Over Knives.

http://www.forksoverknives.com/freshwater-abuse-and-loss-where-is-it-all-go

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 06:53 | 5958236 conscious being
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It's funny how many people say they're concerned about water use, but still use fiat...

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 22:26 | 5965519 Really20
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Meat is a great way of sickening, putting into debt for medical expenses, and killing off the proles. 

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 03:27 | 5958141 Magooo
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GET ready to STARVE

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 04:27 | 5958175 Jack Daniels Esq
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LA did this before - saved so much, they upped price - cunts

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 08:05 | 5958277 thecrud
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Just what did you think caused the less usage.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 05:32 | 5958204 Return of 20-20
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Serves Californians right for electing a Republican governor.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 08:04 | 5958273 thecrud
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I have not seen not even a single rage over that.

The real rage is gas is still over 3 bucks.

I call bull shit.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 08:08 | 5958282 overmedicatedun...
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maybe OT, but: thecrud says:

"The real rage is gas is still over 3 bucks."

for me the real rage is that banks pay savers .01% and yet Credit cards and Loans from said banks are

6 to 22%..riddle me that.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 08:07 | 5958280 thecrud
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Without most of those usages you know for food, you wont have to worry about water for long.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 08:20 | 5958298 lakecity55
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Who owns ya, Jerry?

Now we know!

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 08:46 | 5958328 vegas
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Well, to be honest, they give more money to the money laundering scheme known as the Democrat Party of Kalifornia; Mom & Pop don't give shit to these guys.

 

www.traderzoo.mobi

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 08:52 | 5958338 SirBarksAlot
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Soon the dollar will be based on the value of water, rather than the value of oil.

They should wait until then to present their case.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 09:21 | 5958378 SokPOTUS
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Can't Californians just be ordered to drink their own urine?  The groundwater is going to be contaminated by all that fracking anyway.   Sheesh.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 10:13 | 5958466 Niall Of The Ni...
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"Moonbeam wants me to stop showering. Better drink my own piss."

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 09:28 | 5958388 fremannx
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...the order does not require oil producers to cut their usage nor does it place a temporary halt on the water intensive practice of hydraulic fracturing.

 

Frackers will eventually be put out of business anyway. The cost of fracking will soon prove to be impossible to justify as oil prices continue to slide into the deflationary vortex.

 

 http://www.globaldeflationnews.com/shale-oil-companies-on-the-ropes-firs...

 

http://www.globaldeflationnews.com/oil-light-sweet-crudeelliott-wave-upd...


Sat, 04/04/2015 - 09:29 | 5958390 ak_khanna
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There are two sets of rules in our society today.

One for the politicians, their sponsors the crony capitalists and the other set for the rest of the population. 

The politicians are in the power seat to extract maximum advantage for themselves in the small time frame they occupy the seat of power.The rest of the population is least of their concerns. The only activity they do is pacify the majority of the population using false statistics and promises of a better future so that they do not lynch them and their masters while they are robbing the taxpayers.

 http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article40231.html

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 09:38 | 5958398 GMadScientist
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US usage is 410,000,000,000 gpd...so this water represents 0.000048 % of the water in the US.

CA usage (from 2010 report) 38,000,000,000 gpd...so that's 0.000052 % of the water in CA.

There are much better reasons to not frack in a state with seismic instability issues.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 09:46 | 5958408 SirBarksAlot
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In Kuwait, the purify water from the ocean.  Why isn't California doing that?

 

In California, 80% of water is used by agriculture, which keeps the price lower than it should be:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/30/how-growers-gamed-calif...

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 10:09 | 5958460 Niall Of The Ni...
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Desal plants would block the NIMBYs' views of the Pacific from their dream homes. That's why. 

As long as the NIMBYs get to keep their dream homes (defended from annual bush fires by poor white firefighters) and their organic almond milk, that's not going to change

Our masters only start doing much about problems that affect the rest of us when the problems start affecting the master class personally and they run out of ways to put the problems out of sight and out of mind. By then, it's usually too late to repair the damage.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 10:16 | 5958470 GMadScientist
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Because it's very energy intensive and not everyone is sitting on huge petrol reserves eh.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 14:31 | 5958985 snblitz
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Santa Barbara built a water desalination plant some years ago, but then mothballed it when it started to rain.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 09:47 | 5958411 Stan522
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We kalifornian's are in a constant state of outrage.......

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 10:16 | 5958472 GMadScientist
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"No whip cream on my latte?! The HORROR!!"

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 09:55 | 5958423 Niall Of The Ni...
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I might have done the same. Rich parasites need their perfect lawns much less than frackers---the only employers still providing jobs to working-class white men at a living wage---need to get oil out of the ground. No surprise the eco-kooks were whinging. There goes another excuse to send rednecks packing.

But surely figuring out who has top priority for the water is what a price system is for?

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 10:39 | 5958513 GMadScientist
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How many of these price thingies should I print up (or issue...)?

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 11:09 | 5958566 orangegeek
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Jerry Brown and the rest of the cali-socialists need their "folding money" so the bash it in public and suck it up in private.  What is amazing is how stupid the "greenies" are to believe the "save the planet" meme - Al Gore is laughing at all you fucking idiots that are too stupid to figure out what a lying pig Al gore really is.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 11:19 | 5958583 directaction
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My favorite part of this bountifyul gift to the largest water wasters such as the frackers and Nestle and grape growers and almond orchards is the directive to remove 50 million sq ft of lawns. 

Of course not all homes in CA have lawns, but most do, so in rough terms with six million homes in California it means removing an 8.9 square foot patch of grass (2.89' x 2.89') from the yard of each home.

It'd take about five minutes for someone to accomplish this, but most people in CA are too lazy to bother so it won't happen ... until one day when Mother Nature takes 'em all out. 

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 12:56 | 5958782 Chumly
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The headline speaks for itself...it's like we are in the Isengard phase of the battle for Middle Earth...an Entmoot must be convened to deliberate the Last March of the Ents.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 13:18 | 5958830 Jano
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those people do not need enemies.
they are going to kill off their unborn generations.
I have no problem with it, to contrary, I welcome it. If they die of polluted water or of Fukushima, who cares.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 14:38 | 5959000 snblitz
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Estimates of running desalination plants in California run around $2000 per acre foot of water produced.

For me and my familiy and farm that would come to about $20 per month.

I think I could manage that.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 19:28 | 5959607 conscious being
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But could you manage the Fukashima consequences?

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 16:39 | 5959241 Magooo
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The End of Cheap Oil

 

Global production of conventional oil will begin to decline sooner than most people think, probably within 10 years

 

Feb 14, 1998 |By Colin J. Campbell and Jean H. Laherrre

 

 

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-end-of-cheap-oil/

 

HOW HIGH OIL PRICES WILL PERMANENTLY CAP ECONOMIC GROWTH For most of the last century, cheap oil powered global economic growth. But in the last decade, the price of oil has quadrupled, and that shift will permanently shackle the growth potential of the world’s economies.  http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-09-23/how-high-oil-prices-will-permanently-cap-economic-growth

 

BUT WE NEED HIGH OIL PRICES:  The marginal cost of the 50 largest oil and gas producers globally increased to US$92/bbl in 2011, an increase of 11% y-o-y and in-line with historical average CAGR growth.  http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2012/05/02/983171/marginal-oil-production-costs-are-heading-towards-100barrel/

 

THE PERFECT STORM (see p. 59 onwards)

The economy is a surplus energy equation, not a monetary one, and growth in output (and in the global population) since the Industrial Revolution has resulted from the harnessing of ever-greater quantities of energy. But the critical relationship between energy production and the energy cost of extraction is now deteriorating so rapidly that the economy as we have known it for more than two centuries is beginning to unravel. http://ftalphaville.ft.com/files/2013/01/Perfect-Storm-LR.pdf

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 20:37 | 5959767 falga
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This is when you realize that water is mis-priced. California only legislated regulation for use of its ground water recently. Put a price on water That is realistic and related to its availability and lets see what would happen? California voters are responsible for their fate...

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 21:00 | 5959814 Chauncey Gardener
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Moonbeam is doing too little too late. Back in the 90's I had to travel to SoCal on a regular basis for work. On a horribly memorable business outing, I wound up staying in Long Beach at a Marriott, and could not believe the tap water qualtiy. After my very abbreviated shower, I smelled like I had jumped into a vat of dry cleaning chemicals. Nice view of the refinery from my room, btw. 

I can't imagine how great the remaining water must be. 

Hello, Room Service? Can I get some more of that $9.00 per bottle of that Fiji spring water? I need to brush my teeth.

Sat, 04/04/2015 - 21:02 | 5959815 Chauncey Gardener
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Sorry 'bout that double post. Don't get me started on what a damn ripoff Frontier Internet "service" is, only snailmail is slower. The only alternative we have is Comcast. Customer service hell on steroids.

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