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Mission Accomplished? ISIS Leaders Are All Ex-Saddam Hussein Army Officers
Almost all the top leaders in the Islamic State are former officers in the Iraqi army. As WaPo reports, the current leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, reshaped the original al-Qaeda affiliate by recruiting from Saddam Hussein’s disbanded army...
So it's all Bush's fault?
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I watched the 1956 jew Hollywood version of, THE TEN COMMANDMENTS ON TV LAST NIGHT just 4 the yuks... [which was basically a ridiculous narrative on how Jews claim to have PROVIDENCE on mankind] ... So, IMO ~ It's all "The Burning Bush's" fault...
I blame the apple.
If it hadn't been for the apple, the serpent would have had nothing to work with.
no Apple... no IWatch...
Oh the humanity!
Get me the fuck off this jew infested shitsphere...
Wheter or not there is some conspiracy or if these guys switched religious affiliations or if it's all the Jews' fault, the bottom line is that this world has become much more complex than the dolts in DC can handle.
WDC = Jews...
Does that help?
All my life I've tried to play by the RULES... The problem is that only until recently did I realize who was making the rules...
Somebody is 6 months behind.
Not really... If you're a typical Chinese or Indian... You hardly ever hear about these fucking clowns...
The only get 'REPORTAGE' time in Western culture [who are born, bred, & trained sychophants]...
ZH readers are not your typical readers, nor are they Chinese or Indian, I hear that on the internet, they can't lie on the internet.
I can tell the fucking TRUTH all day long here on ZH & get 45-55% 'junks' from sychophants...
I really don't give a FF... I just tell the TRUTH... Whether you like it or not...
But what I said earlier still holds TRUE... I'm REALLY TIRED OF LIVING on a JEW INFESTED SHITSPHERE of a planet...
If that's anyone's veresion of utopia... They can have it... I'd rather fucking be DEAD...
ISIS leaders are Israeli/CIA double agents if there is such a thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6AmyRTBdXI
Time to start a new deck of playing cards?
perhaps there's a Klan office near you...or you could join up with Isis. Klowns love to be helpful.
Seems the Hasbara keep cropping up using one of their most tired tactics: Accusing people of being [insert conspiracy-theorist/racist/Hitler/muslim-lover/socalisist/etc.etc.] if they hold a position contrary to the mainstream.
Be gratefully so if that's the case, the day of Providence has passed, the moment has failed and dreams of absolute utopia are far into the future as far as I can tell. Otherwise the whole place goes to hell in a handbasket, unless YOU prop it up.
in your own mind
you have a very evil mind
world would be a better place with out you.
dsty - you sound like a 12 year old. Just sayin'
No one here's stopping you.
"I'm REALLY TIRED OF LIVING on a JEW INFESTED SHITSPHERE of a planet...
If that's anyone's veresion of utopia... They can have it... I'd rather fucking be DEAD..."
You sound so well adjusted, tell us more of the "sychophants"
He is well adjusted because he gets it. The only way to a healthy country is to boot the parasites out. Germany did great without any parasites right after the war, perhaps the second biggest economy after complete destruction after the war. The Chinese are number one without the tribe of parasites. Japan also. Only the USA economy staggers along with its parasite infestation. Oh those little spark plug parasites that spark in the night.
Proof that the parasites kill millions of goy. Look at the parasite infestation that was communism and its results in Soviet Union/Russia with millions upon millions of dead. Look at the parasite infestation of the USA govt and the millions dead as a result of the USA wars in the past few decades. Look at the parasite bankers that funded Hitler etc.
Parasites kill and yet they make themselves out to be the victims, hilarious.
It dont sound like there would be any loss.
You just woke up from the matix recently(written by jews movie). Its natural to be angry, but calm down and start to think, you might even learn that the elite deceivers have themselves been deceived and its going to take way more than lashing out angrily to survive this mess.
Bail out taught me who has to follow the rules and who does not.
I now understand it is every man for himself and what ever it is I do to survive I will not confuse with who I am.
For fucks sake give the jew CRAP A REST ... what is this Stormfront .. constant blathering about the joooosssss makes ZH less than credible .. enough already . pick on gypsies .. homosexuals.. Catholics the Saudis ..feminists . slavs and Rockefeller for awhile ... ZH is gerat until the Jew bashing comes out .. than it turns into a 14 year old boys club .. give it a rest . .here come the down votes.. but at this point I do not give a fuck . bunch of wankers..
One down vote, who's the wanker now, asshole? Hee hee hee just kiddin.
Guess we're all worn out on that shit.
Socioeconomic status is the real differentiator, not race. Most of us don't even pay enough attention to race issues to give a fuck, I mean does it matter that the waiter was a certain color, or your client for that matter? Does it impact anything at all? F no. The only people who take note on another's race are those who are either full of hate, or stand to benefit from it. Politicians.
This isn't an anti-capitalism rant; but we would be blind not to acknowledge the existence of a caste system here in America. Old wealth elites and the buttfucking politicians and media that they own in one corner and the independent taxpayer in the other. Taxpayer is funding his own death, with no other option.
They've even weaponized the welfare poor into their own throw-away army to use when needed, like those poor unarmed fuckers in Braveheart who led the charge with clubs and sticks. Shits gonna get REAL real soon, the rulers have every option on the table, ready to go. They've built this arsenal for a while and they damn sure don't plan on going down without lighting some fuses. It's gonna get a lot worse before it gets any better.
Guess you like being a slave after a while when you know nothing better.
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Security-Watch/Backchannels/2013/1007/Rab...
"Goyim (gentiles, non-Jews) were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel," he said, according to the Jerusalem Post. "Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat. That is why gentiles were created." An "effendi" is a lord, or a master, in Arabic
Guess hearing you are a goy donkey can be tiring after a while, and not a fun reality. Carry your master's heavy load and shut up.
Face it you are not organized and they are. If you organize you will be called anti-ceramic. If they organize they are not called anti-goy which is what they really are. Then without the organizational ability even though you are in larger numbers you are just a flock of sheep prayed on by a tightly organized and networked pack of wolves.
They will keep you from organizing with cries of the holohoax. Let us not forget who funded the Nazis and who still does in Ukraine.
http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/06/24/ukraine-jewish-billionaires-batalli...
http://tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/187217/borislav-bereza
Love the silent down arrows.
This from the "foremost J-mafia expert"
Post links and counter argue king schmuck Borzan. Otherwise you are just a one neuron member of the tribe.
Your copy and paste quotes of a right wing fanatical mean nothing. I could link to any number of fanatics from the Muslim faith, but it wouldn't justify hating all people of the Muslim faith. Your a hate monger deceived into wasting your time hating people you don't know and accusing people by association. You don't consider the individual and lump them together in your neat packages of us vs them as if they all think and act alike.
Do you believe all Jews in the world are Zionists or that all Muslims are bent on violent conquests?
Civilization grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under Democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical Politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to Safety by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. H.L. Mencken
Ehhh, right wing fanatic followed by like two more than two million jews world who are Sephardic and not to mention all the Ashkenazi jews like Bloomberg who sent their condolescences, and revered this POS..
His funeral in Jerusalem was the largest in Israel's history, with an estimated attendance of 850,000. Some religious authorities have stated that this was, perhaps, the largest in-gathering of Jews since the days of the Second Temple.[33] However, other estimates put the number in attendance at the funeral lower, at between 273,000 to 450,000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovadia_Yosef
Pretty well followed by the mainstream for a so called right wing fanatic. Seems to me like the right wing is a lot bigger than the left wing in Israeli politics. Doesn't even seem like there is a center anymore.
What gets me is that you guys, the biggest racists around, dare go around and call gentiles anti-ceramic, when you POS spew this kind of anti-gentile garbage.
Tell you what, Phuck you and your murderous cult. Nothing imaginary about these goblins, just look at their noses.
You're a real jackass. Your real beef with Isaiah, whom the rabbi was just colloquially paraphrasing, chapter 61:
5 And foreigners shall stand and feed your flocks, and aliens shall be your plowmen and your vinedressers.
6 But ye shall be named the priests of the LORD, men shall call you the ministers of our God; ye shall eat the wealth of the nations, and in their splendour shall ye revel.
7 For your shame which was double, and for that they rejoiced: 'Confusion is their portion'; therefore in their land they shall possess double, everlasting joy shall be unto them.
8 For I the LORD love justice, I hate robbery with iniquity; and I will give them their recompense in truth, and I will make an everlasting covenant with them.
9 And their seed shall be known among the nations, and their offspring among the peoples; All That See Them Shall Acknowledge Them, that they are the seed which the LORD hath blessed.
Yes, goyim will serve Israel but it will be voluntarily as compensation for the brutal treatment Israel was subject to.
WRONG.
You completely miss the meaning of God’s promise through Abraham, fully explained in Galatians chapter 3:
“Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham.” – Galatians 3:7
Who are Abraham’s “children”? Those who descended from him? NO. It is those who have faith <in God>!
“Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you.” So those who rely on faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.” – Galatians 3:8
God announced through Abraham that all nations would be blessed through him (not by him). That blessing occurs ONLY by Jesus Christ- NO OTHER WAY.
“For all who rely on the works of the <Mosaic> law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”[e] 11 Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.”[f] 12 The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, “The person who does these things will live by them.”[g] 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”[h] 14 He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.” – Galatians 3:9-14
All those who rely on the Mosaic law (~“jews”) are under a curse, because the Mosaic law does not save- ONLY faith in Jesus Christ saves!
“The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ. What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise. For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on the promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise.” -– Galatians 3:16-18
ONLY one seed- not seeds! That seed of Abraham is one person- Christ- the only way to salvation. The Mosaic law (~“judaism”) wasn’t introduced until 430 years AFTER the promise. The Mosaic law has nothing to do with the promise! You can’t have it both ways- either salvation comes through the law, or it comes through the promise! God’s grace gave salvation through a promise- NOT the law.
“So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
All who put their faith in Jesus Christ- jew or gentile- are Abraham’s seed according to the promise!!!!
The modern nation of “Israel” has no special status in God’s eyes- they (only 5% at best) are not the Biblical nation of Israel- they are not the descendants of Jacob, son of Isaac, son of Abraham! The modern nation of Israel is a secular construct, not a divine one; it was brought about by Walter Rothschild and the Balfour declaration- not the hand of God!
Jesus Christ warned about these so-called "jews":
"I know about the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan." - Revelation 2:9
"I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars--I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you." - Revelation 3:9
You have now been shown what the Bible teaches- only those who put faith in Jesus Christ recieve the blessing of the promise given to Abraham- quit claiming otherwise.
I agree with you all the way until you said, "The modern nation of “Israel” has no special status in God’s eyes"
Maybe so for the current secular state, but not so for the people he gathered back into the land called Israel or the land itself. It has a very special status in God’s eyes as do the Israeli people. We who've been grafted in through faith in Christ have not replaced the tree, we've joined it by God's Grace to provoke the secular Israelis to return to their roots.
Romans 11
11 Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all! Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious.
12 But if their transgression means riches for the world, and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches will their full inclusion bring!
It was God who gathered them back into His land according to Ezekiel,
Ezekiel 36
1“Son of man, prophesy to the mountains of Israel and say, ‘Mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord.
2This is what the Sovereign Lord says: The enemy said of you, “Aha! The ancient heights have become our possession.”?’
3Therefore prophesy and say, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Because they ravaged and crushed you from every side so that you became the possession of the rest of the nations and the object of people’s malicious talk and slander,
4therefore, mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Sovereign Lord: This is what the Sovereign Lord says to the mountains and hills, to the ravines and valleys, to the desolate ruins and the deserted towns that have been plundered and ridiculed by the rest of the nations around you—
5this is what the Sovereign Lord says: In my burning zeal I have spoken against the rest of the nations, and against all Edom, for with glee and with malice in their hearts they made my land their own possession so that they might plunder its pastureland.’
6Therefore prophesy concerning the land of Israel and say to the mountains and hills, to the ravines and valleys: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I speak in my jealous wrath because you have suffered the scorn of the nations.
7Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I swear with uplifted hand that the nations around you will also suffer scorn.
8“?‘But you, mountains of Israel, will produce branches and fruit for my people Israel, for they will soon come home.
9I am concerned for you and will look on you with favor; you will be plowed and sown,
10and I will cause many people to live on you—yes, all of Israel. The towns will be inhabited and the ruins rebuilt.
11I will increase the number of people and animals living on you, and they will be fruitful and become numerous. I will settle people on you as in the past and will make you prosper more than before. Then you will know that I am the Lord.
12I will cause people, my people Israel, to live on you. They will possess you, and you will be their inheritance; you will never again deprive them of their children.
And it is God who will protect them when they are surrounded by there enemies, not because they are a wonderful people, but to protect His name, and so that the Nations will know the Lord is God!
Ezekiel 38
16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.
17 Thus saith the Lord God; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them?
18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord God, that my fury shall come up in my face.
19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;
20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.
This little piece of land is the hammer of God and he will reveal himself to the Nations through it when He puts a hook in the Jaw of the surrounding nations and they seek to finally drive the people He gathered from this land.
Sounds like another Hollyweird script. Guess if the crap is made up might as well make movies about it to try to make it seem real.
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Oh no, there are people in the middle east who say bad things about people of other religions? They said..... Something bad about me? Well I'm going to stomp my feet like Cosmos and worry about it, maybe my emotions can even control me and make me just as hateful and bigoted in return. Meanwhile you get FUCKED here in the homeland by your own elected representatives, and 'them ain't all jobs, Cosmos (crickets).
That little Bitch session accomplished nothing but prove you admit you have placed somebody else's thoughts in control of you. Your reaction, on full display, is what they want.
Joos 1
Cosmos 0
Just quoting the ideology of the World Jewish Congress. If they were just saying bad things no big deal. But they are actively acting out on their hatred and are killing millions.
When the PM of Israel receives standing ovations that require half the time of the speech to another country's congress, it means something godam it. OWN IT. Or stay out of other people's state businss and refuse their contributions which total in the billions. Dual citizens from Israel are in govt seats and voting on legislation that benefits Israel, not the USA. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? The USA should have conquered this cruel little tax haven/laundry mat/military state so the world would not have to listen to it CRY every day - EVERY DAY - on on TV screens. I don't know about anyone else, but at this point, how the country of Israel fares is the least of my worries. But it is front and center for some reason. And I have no idea why. Maybe because assassinations result otherwise. The country is rogue and the blood is still warm from dead babies and and tears of orphans. Not to mention the exclusiveness of this tribe - can you say RACISM. The Talmud, a manual apparently which has deemed everyone but THEM undesirable is apparently something you have yet to read.
If I think its true and it needs bashing, I bash, unabashedly, until proven wrong.
Isn't that the real point ... to get off the planet. Otherwise we are stuck here in a long loop, being slaves to the worst imaginable management in the universe.
Shitsphere? I didn't realise they had proved the earth is spherical yet. It's still flat until proved.
Technically, it is an oblate spheroid.
.....and CIA assets
ISIS = re-branding Al CIAda
They are the same.
Rebranding of its origin. The Mujahideen.
Lucifer did the dirty work with his dick, "apple" is never mentioned in any relegious text . The problems of humanity are in your blood .
like most of the bible, apple story in an allegory.
how i interpret it is, to have free you you must consume knowledge and use it. to follow god " your parents " you must believe what you're told.and do what you're told. the fruit of free will is making your tough calls in life, and suffering the consequences. not relying on god (your parents) to make them all for you.
and then a whole pile of crap that teaches nothing about life for the rest of the book.
If Adam and Eve had been Chinese they would have stir fried the serpent for dinner and we all wouldn't be dealing with original sin now.
The Chinese Adam and Eve did, that is why they are not slaves to the tribe.
The goy Adam and Eve were not that smart.
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Ba'ath was militantly secular, and ISIS claims to be militantly religious, making it quite odd that the same group of characters would be in leading positions in both.
What were these guys doing for the past dozen years?
Well, Saddam was an advocate of pan-Arabic Islam. Why is it shocking that his senior officers would be attracted to ISIS?
They came out of retirement.
Look at them. It is like looking at Bundy, Manson, Berkowitz & co. Kind of a job requirement.
Netanyahu: If you take out Saddam, I GUARANTEE you will see enormous positive reverberationshttps://youtu.be/wHmhf_wrcrM
Hindsight is a bitchez
Unless I miss my guess, some of them were STILL serving in the Iraq army until the new (Shia) puppet government we set up in Baghdad started to summarily kick out all the Sunnis.
That red one is from me. You wildly missed your "guess", falling into a pool full of Shia vs Sunni Kool Aid.
How quickly we forget!
Here is the short answer: It wasn't the Shia government, it was the good ol' USA. We did it... on purpose!
Remember Paul Bremer?
The Imperial Czar arrived in Baghdad on May 14, 2003. The very next day, he released CPA Order No. 1, barring members of the Baath Party from all but the lowliest government posts. The next day, he issued CPA Order No. 2, disbanding the Iraqi army and key ministries.
The effect was to immediately throw out the entire structure of government, the army, and the police, among others. Over 600,000 persons who ran key ministries and security/civil services were affected directly by this colossal blunder. Of course, lawlessness, anarchy, looting and violence immediately followed.
Here is the punchline- to this day, we still do not know who gave the disastrous order.
Great post gallistic, all truth. I wonder how many of these ZH dipshits were cheering for DEMOCRACY in Iraq? Just another full-bore jingoistic tug at 'muricans misguided patriotism.
Same asshole that flew into Kiev right after the coup.
Getting religion, apparently. Having their 'come to Allah' moment...
What ever pays the bills.
Oh the terror !
Fuck you Abu
Sooooo...radical Islamists in Iraq were then, and are now, legitimate threats to the Free world, deserving the full measure of our military wrath?
O.k.
It's Saddam's fault?
FUCK YOU BANKERS !
So Iraq has full employment?
Mr. Yellen must be sooo jealous.
Is any one here suprised? Shocked? Mildly stunned? ;)
Psychopaths will be psychopaths, wherever they find themselves.
They normally find themselves in the US CONgress, administration or any number of Federal agencies.
It does explain a lot. Destroy where you're planted.
And we're supposed to believe this wasn't intended? Ha ha ha, JWO all the way.
JewSA! JewSA! JewSA!
I'm calling Bullshit,
I see your bullshit, and raise you an exhausted recruit, Mr. Winkle.
100% bullshit, they are all Mossad and everyone knows it. Go ahead and google it, the so called leader is an Israeli actor named Elliott Shimon.
So who's running their PR dept considering Saddam didn't have a digital media group before?
The Pure Evil Criminal Psychopaths at the CIA.
Martha Raddatz and Rita Katz.
LMAO? In hindsight, Saddam was pretty good at keeping a lid on his little piece of the world. We would be a couple ot $T ahead of the game if we had just left them alone.
Ya know, blaming the Jews for all our problems is like blaming the niggers/queers/white trash etc for our problems. There may well be some truth in it at times but redirect the hammer kids. The Jews are not the only nails out there. jmo and of course if you are a hardcore anti-semite you'll do what you do best.
except Saddam had to go and fuck it up by invading Kuwait.
With a nod and a wink from Bush Sr. and April Gillespie.
saddam kind of screwed up earlier, when he invaded iran, too...
no Saddam got played by Bush and Co and then got pissed and then did the almighty error and tried to sell oil in something other than dollars
BUt it is a hell of a lot easier to blame jews.. .. makes knee jerk responses so much easier .. reading the comments sometimes... I wish the Tylers would go back to testing people to post comments.. the Minnesota Multiphasic would be a start .. anyone who thinks jews aer the sum total of problems in this world are delusional .. thought far too higly of the commentators on ZH .. thought they had brains instead they are full of hubris unable to understand the problems of the world are not all caused by jews or any other particular group . .. 'redirect the hammers' .. the 'kids' do not want to do that . it wuold take away their sense of moral superiority and self righteousness .. how can anyone take anyone on ZH serisously when 65 percent of the time its all jews bashing all the time .
MMPI? You damn anti-semite! Your MMPI 'test' would unfarely disqualify a disproportionate number of Jews.
From the Handbook of Cross-Cultural and Multicultural Personality Assessment by Richard H. Dana
Psychasthenia is no longer used as a 'psychological disorder', but back in the day it meant: characterized by phobias, obsessions, compulsions, or excessive anxiety.
I'm no psychologist, but simple observation of Bibi with his little bomb cartoon about Iran suggests that he would also rate an elevated score on the Hysteria, Psychopathic Deviate and Psychasthenia (at least with regard to Iran) scales. You would probably end up denying him the opportunity to post on ZeroHedge. Maybe he has something interesting or entertaining to say. I wonder what screen name/avatar he would use?
oh whoop de doo...some ISIS leaders were formerly members of Iraqi military...like that means anything. When you have lazy slovenly goat herders fighting other lazy slovenly goat herders, you get what you get. Seriously. Iraqis vs Syrians. Vs iranians. whatever. They're all tough guy goat fuckers who are just busy shooting themselves...which is the entire point of the exercise. You know this is one big criminal enterprise, with the dumb and dumber members of Islam martyring themselves for the cause while the 'leaders' make out like, well, make out like themselves (bandits!). Seriously, ISIS for whatever they 'want' it is not to start their own caliphate or whatever dirthole phrase they want to use. They can barely maintain bodily hygiene let alone a fucking country.
ISIS = US govt. So that is certainly where the inability to maintain a country comes from.
Yes, clearly you are inanimate.
"Abu " means "father of ...". The guys name could be abdulla, but his son's name is Usama. So his buddies all call him "Abu Usama" as a nickname. All of the people on this list have their nicknames listed instead of their actual names. Just #fyi #themoreyouknow
And that's because it's also a common habit there to adopt new names at the drop of a fig, and why not, since pretty much everybody is named Mohammed Mohammed Mohammed at birth.
Abu Bakr was Muhammed's uncle, his first successor. Sunni's believe on the succession of the Prophet through this geneology line.
The Shia's, on the other hand, believed in the succession through Muhammed's daughter (forget her name) whose descendent, Ali Hussein, was martyred (killed by the Sunni's through the Abu Bakr line) in southern Iraq (Karbala?) in the late seventh or early eigth century. Shia's make pilgimages every year to Karbala to mourn Hussein's martyrdom not much different than Christians do for their Jesus. Most of Iraq had been Persians for centuries until the 20th century. Iran's control of Iraq is only natural as they are mostly Shias. .
The Hashemite line, is presumably,still extant as King Abdullah of Jordan is Ali Hussein's s genetic successor; the last King of Iraq (forget again the name , this is what happens when your son smokes up his old man) but he was of the Hashemite line as well.
Abu Bakr would predominantly be a Sunni name
sunni-sunni bad blood goes full
retard. it is so crazy they designed
a curriculum to keep track of the degrees
of nutty yahoo ness of it. (mad-ras) notice, the neocon,
neonazis, zionazis somehow are in complete
sink with that vibration and suffer no ill
effects but always benefit from the tone,
loc- .....
it must be a plot, a centrally intelligent
money plot with agency.
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Tone Loc - Wild Thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=387ZDGSKVSg
If these guys are ISIS, then it's because the US/Saudi, etc are paying them to be there. The higher echelons of the Iraqi military have a tradition of being paid to defect or stand down going back to the original Gulf War. And since the Sunni officer class obviously still has power & influence in the new Iraq, it makes sense that these higher-ups are being recruited to try and weaken Baghdad. Luckily it's not working. ISIS is gradually being rolled back with Iranian help in central/northern Iraq.
ISIS, U SIS, we all SIS for ISIS.
The is Obama's baby don't bush yourself.
Not enough playing cards in Bush's deck apparantly ........
Amazing how so many unemployed former officers always seem to 'find' a war. Just watch the cable news channels and you will see how many former US officers are pounding the table for escalating war across the entire planet! Lucky for the ex-Saddam officers, they don't have to go very far.
Very astute comment. Let us not forget that the media tables the USA generals pound in front of the camera are owned by AIPAC supporters and dual citizens.
Tyler, why do you repost a BS from WAPO?
To cover-up their masters in Tel Aviv?
To cover-up the source of their weapons in Langley?
To cover up the source of their moeny in Rhiad?
Lots of short memories on this board.
Bush was warned shortly after the invasion that it was important they keep the Iraqi military
in place which, it was believed, would have prevented the insurgency and kept a leash of sorts on
the command structure. Their fiefdoms would have been relatively intact.
Nope. This would not fit with the true agenda.
Instead, they were allowed to scatter.
And here we are.
lets hope ISIS hits Israel real soon.........
ISIS is sponsored by Israel.
They treat the wounded, provide logistical and media support, and they even make the flags.
Their strategy is obvious: put Sunni vs. Shia on the menu, then wipe up the leftovers.
Hitler? Liebenstraun? He had nothing on these guys.
Freed from the Fear of Saddam, many of these officers were Iraqi Patriots. Instead, we created this stupid deck of cards.
You guys have no idea how this got fucked up, and I am going to shut up.
Divine; I gave you an upvote as you present a cogent argument but I think you are incorrect.
I don't believe Bush and co. had any real rational plan. If one used, "Occam's razor',to adduce the simplest answer to this question, one would be led to the idea that the Bush/Cheney Iraq total fuck up was due to breathtaking incompetence, nothing more.
Stupidity and arrogance combined - what a perfect combination for a massive CF.
Does Abu mean "mister" in sand ebonics?
Please bring back Abu Musab al Zarqawi character to storyline. He was a cat with nine lives.
Pentagon channel report: Zarqawi.http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ7dJl2ZdB4
is anyone *seriously* surprised?
The Oded Yinon plan in the Levant
And Leviathan gas will not compete with Persian!
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/podcast.php
You have to start a resume somewhere. Am I supposed to be shocked. And who cares.
a Boo Boo Boo!
The fucking stupid Shrub did not bring the true patriots (as such are) into the new Iraqi Army.
Many people, myself included, told these idiots the Ba'athist officers would bring better stability to Iraq and get things to chill. The dumb motherfuckers wanted to get RID of the Party. There would have been a more seamless transition. But, no! Did they listen to the ground guys? No! They punked the Experts because they had Another Goal In Mind.
The whole invasion was BS anyway, unless one seeks mastery of the World.
This is what happens when Neocon dual-PP holders determine your country's policy.
Now we are stuck with a Charlie Foxtrot.
If Blowbama has an IQ of 25, Shrub's is like 24.
These idiots are going to start a War with Russia. Haha, Bath House will rule over a desolate land if he keeps this up.
It works just perfectly every day, the MIc gets richer. That's the only way it works.
ISIS is all Langley and Glilot Junction.
The banksters need to repay us.
This exact meme also popped up in the UK meeja couple days ago: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/how-saddam-husseins-....
Their numbers were in the CIA Rolodex
Give Israel to ISIS
How????.....ISIS is already a USraeli branch operation..
or hasn't anyone noticed that ISIS has not attacked Israel????
Not even worth commenting on, its like throwing raw meat into a cage full of retarded jackals, you guys do realize Soufan is FBI right?
"...you guys do realize Soufan is FBI right?..."
Not true, nmewn!
Here's the 'team' from their web page:
ALI SOUFAN << FBI
CHAIRMAN & CEOMr. Soufan is a former Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Supervisory Special Agent who investigated and supervised highly sensitive and complex international terrorism cases, including the East Africa Embassy Bombings, the attack on the USS Cole, and the events surrounding 9/11. READ MORE
ROBERT MCFADDEN << Fed and member of popular TV show NCIS, but not FBI
SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT Mr. McFadden is a 30-year veteran of the U.S. federal law enforcement, intelligence, and counterintelligence communities and has held several high-profile leadership positions, including Deputy Assistant Director, Counterintelligence Operations, NCIS. READ MORE
RICHARD BARRETT << Limey counter-terrorist
SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT Mr. Barrett worked for 9 years at the United Nations on counterterrorism. Before that he spent more than 25 years with the British government working in the Security Service, the Foreign Office, and the Secret Intelligence Service. READ MORE
SUSAN SIM << Not FBI; some kind of hybrid shill from Singapore
VICE PRESIDENT FOR ASIAMs. Sim is a former intelligence analyst and foreign correspondent and has been Singapore’s Deputy Chief of Mission in Washington, D.C. She also serves as an Adjunct Lecturer and Consultant with the Home Team Academy of the Ministry of Home Affairs of Singapore. READ MORE
BARRY GROSART << Limey
INTERNATIONAL OPERATIONS MANAGERMr. Grosart is a veteran of the United Kingdom Special Force and has more than 35 years' experience in the security-risk management discipline. READ MORE
MARK PRITCHARD << Limey MP
INTERNATIONAL ADVISOR Mark Pritchard is an International Adviser of The Soufan Group. Mr. Pritchard is a Member of the UK Parliament. READ MORE
JAMES A MCGEE << FBI
SENIOR PROGRAM MANAGER James A. McGee is a Senior Program Manager for The Soufan Group. He holds a Bachelor of Science from California Polytechnic State University and a Master of Science from Virginia Commonwealth University. Mr. McGee has twenty-five combined years of law enforcement experience of which he spent twenty-one years as a Special Agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). READ MORE
RAYMOND S MEY << Generic counter-terrorism parasite
SENIOR PROGRAM MANAGERRaymond S. Mey is a Senior Program Manager of The Soufan Group, LLC. He is an internationally recognized law enforcement and security professional with extensive experience in counterterrorism investigations, major event security, crisis management and hostage rescue. READ MORE
JOHN WADDELL << Qatari oil-company merc
DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS John Waddell is an honorably retired U.S. Marine. Since 2006, he has resided full-time in Qatar and worked in projects involving critical infrastructure security evaluations, national-level risk management and security related training. Mr. Waddell is an ASIS CPP. READ MORE
ANITA WADDELL << FBI
ASSOCIATE Anita Waddell serves as the Executive Associate seconded to Qatar International Academy for Security Studies (QIASS). Prior to joining TSG, Anita spent 25 years with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). READ MORE
DON BORELLI << FBI
CHIEF OPERATIONS OFFICERMr. Borelli is a 25-year veteran of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, where he held high-profile leadership positions, including Assistant Special Agent in Charge in the New York Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF). READ MORE
DANIEL FREEDMAN << Strategist, writer, entrepreneur (= unemployed)
STRATEGIC ADVISOR Daniel Freedman is a Strategic Advisor to The Soufan Group. Daniel is the Senior Vice President - Strategy & Business Development, of Apploi, a jobs ecosystem and hiring app. He is a highly-regarded strategist, writer, and entrepreneur, and is the co-author of the award-winning, New York Times top-10 bestseller, "The Black Banners.” Daniel also manages an early stage security technology start-up. READ MORE
MARTIN REARDON << FBI
SENIOR VICE PRESIDENTMr. Reardon is a 21-year veteran of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. His last position at the FBI, prior to joining TSG, was as Chief of the 24/7 Terrorist Screening Operations Center, overseeing the worldwide management of encounters with known and suspected terrorists. READ MORE
STEPHEN WHITE << Limey; Iraq rebuilding money parasite
VICE PRESIDENT FOR EUROPEMr. White served for 26 years as a senior UK police officer and for five years as a Special Adviser to the European Union’s Secretary General and as the Head of Mission for the EU’s Integrated Rule of Law Mission for Iraq. READ MORE
LILA GHOSH << Generic CNN shill
DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS Ms. Ghosh is the Director of Communications at The Soufan Group, focusing on communications, research, and policy. She has experience in international media, foreign policy, and international security, having worked at Condé Nast International, The Council on Foreign Relations, CNN, and a private security contractor. READ MORE
PATRICK M SKINNER << CIA, likely Walter Skinner (X-files) son
DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL PROJECTS Patrick M. Skinner is the Director of Special Projects for The Soufan Group. He is a former CIA Case Officer, with extensive experience in source handling and source networks, specializing in counter-terrorism issues. In addition to his intelligence experience, he has law enforcement experience with the US Air Marshals and the US Capitol Police, as well as search and rescue experience in the US Coast Guard. READ MORE
JEFFREY DONALDSON << Limey MP
ASSOCIATE The Right Honourable Jeffrey Donaldson MP is an Associate of The Soufan Group. Mr. Donaldson served with the Ulster Defence Regiment (British Army) in Northern Ireland from 1981 to 1985, specialising in counter-terrorism operations. READ MORE
AHMAD KHALIL << What the hell is QIASS? Oh, never mind...
FINANCIAL CONTROLLER Ahmad Khalil is the Financial Controller for QIASS and is responsible for all the financial and fiscal management aspects of company operations. Mr. Khalil has a BBA from the University of Toledo and has over eight years in business and financial management experience. READ MORE
THOMAS NEER << FBI
SENIOR ASSOCIATE Thomas Neer's distinguished and diverse 32-year law enforcement and intelligence career began with the Federal Bureau of Prisons, continued with the Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) and concluded with 25 years as a Supervisory Special Agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).
See? Out of 19 of the Soufan 'team', only six (31%) are ex-FBI. Nearly as many as the five Brits. I think we can trust an unbiased opinion from Soufan Group as long as it doesn't interfere with their money-making counter-terrorism and risk management graft in Iraq.
Doha, Qatar is an interesting place. Qataris fund terrorists, and westerners set up security and risk management outfits in Doha to help governments and corporations cope with terrorists. I should have sold my soul and jumped on that gravy train years ago. I would have retired at 50 and been sitting on a nice beach sipping umbrella drinks instead of working for a living and bitching on ZH. [sigh] Life just isn't fair. I want a do-over as a psychopathic oligarch.
Ya all just don't understand the NEW Democracy Dickie Cheney and the Whizz Kids have created. There'll be Dickie Statues all over the Mid East...
So maybe a few unemployed ex-Iraqi army officers "found religion" and joined up with a new up-and-coming bandit gang. So what?
The thing that I can't figure out is why a bunch of hard-core Islamofascists would name their group after a pagan goddess from ancient Egypt.
Stop addressing the figurehead Presidents. They cannot tie there shoe without being told.
Michael C. Ruppert
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/zbig.html
Read the 1997 book. It will all make sense.
Mission accomplished.
We fixed Iraq
We fixed Libya
We fixed Trashcanistan...
We're in the process of fixing Syria and Ukraine.
We're currently experiencing technical difficulty fixing Iran.
Mercenaries don't work for free.
Somebody is payin' 'em.
Saddam just out sourced them from the US.
So in other words, these guys have always worked for the US.
Brilliant US military minds totally got rid of Saddam's army and put these guys
out of a job....What do you expect them to do?? Sling burgers in McDonalds??
What makes you think they’re not still working for the same people? Saddam was originally a CIA trained assassin, (trained in Egypt in the 1950’s) then installed as a US puppet in 1979. Many of the Iraqi generals were paid off to stand down in Gulf War II. I would suppose these guys are on the CIA / Pentagon payroll. Who can forget weeks after 9-11 the number three man in Al Kaeda , Anwar al-Awlaki, dined at the Pentagon with the Secretary of the Army. The American people for the most part are informationaly wasted. The corporate fascist entity can get away with almost anything.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/10/20/al-qaeda-terror-leader-dined-pentag...
Anyone wonder why Israel is so fixated on Iran,
but is totally unconcerned about ISIS in Iraq?
ISIS is well funded and as well organized as most sovereigh nations.
With money, nukes are certainly available on the world market,
and ISIS certainly has enough money and enough connections.
Could Israel's lack of concern be related to
the source of ISIS support money??
They even treat the ISIS guys in Israeli hospitals.
On account of the fact that Tony "war monger" B-LIAR has made a complete fuck up of his "job" as peace envoy to the ME it may be appropriate to offer him a "job" as CEO of ISIS.
After all ISIS is actually his creation, he IS the reason for its existance.
I can't help but think the CIA is behind ISIS, with the Schlumberger plea deal and the former Director of the CIA and Former #2 at the DOJ on the SLM board.
Or are we that incompetent that we delivered new weapons and vehicles to ISIS troops on accident?