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Ron Paul: Freeing The People From The IRS's Tyranny
Submitted by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity,
This week the Justice Department announced it would not charge former Internal Revenue Service (IRS) official Lois Lerner with contempt of Congress. Some members of Congress requested that Lerner be charged with contempt after she refused to testify at a congressional hearing investigating her role in denying or delaying the applications for tax-exempt status of “tea party” and pro-limited government organizations.
Cynics might suggest it is not surprising that a former government official would avoid prosecution for refusing to tell Congress about how federal employees abused their power to help the incumbent administration. These cynics have a point, but the problem goes beyond mere partisanship. Government officials are rarely prosecuted for even the most blatant violations of our liberties. In contrast, federal prosecutors routinely pursue criminal charges against whistleblowers. For example, the only American prosecuted and imprisoned in relation to the government's use of torture was whistleblower John Kiriakou!
While some officials like Lois Lerner who find themselves at the center of a high-profile scandal or partisan dispute can expect harsh treatment from Congress, this is the expectation, not the rule. Executive branch officials usually receive deferential treatment from members of Congress. I recall one hearing on government surveillance where a representative actually apologized to a government official because Congress had the gall to ask that official to testify about the government’s ongoing surveillance of the American people.
In contrast, private citizens called before Congress are harangued and even bullied. Congress should stop using the hearing process to intimidate private citizens and start using it to intimidate those government officials who are threatening our liberty. For example, Congress should continue to investigate the IRS’s ongoing attempts to silence organizations that work to advance free markets and individual liberty.
My Campaign for Liberty organization has had to battle an IRS demand that it hand over personal information regarding some of its top donors. The IRS is either ignoring, or ignorant of, the numerous precedents protecting the right of organizations like the Campaign for Liberty to protect their members’ privacy from government officials.
The IRS is drafting a new regulation that would empower the agency to revoke an organization's tax-exempt status if that organization sends out a communication to its members or the general public mentioning a candidate for office by name sixty days before an election or thirty days before a primary. By preventing groups from telling their members where candidates stand on issues like Audit the Fed and repeal of the PATRIOT Act, this anti-First Amendment regulation benefits those politicians who wish to hide their beliefs from the voters.
Since the IRS’s power stems from the tax system, the only way to protect our liberty from this agency is to eliminate the tax code. Promising to end the IRS is a popular applause line for politicians wishing to appear as champions of liberty. This week, John Koskinen, the current IRS commissar, responded to these cries to end the IRS by pointing out that shutting down the IRS would deprive Congress of the revenue needed to fund the welfare-warfare state. Koskinen has a point. Congress cannot shut down the IRS until it enacts major reductions in all areas of government spending.
Politicians who vote for warfare abroad and welfare at home yet claim they want to shut down the IRS should not be taken seriously. Freeing the people from the IRS’s tyranny is one of the best reasons to end the welfare-warfare state and return the federal government to its constitutional limitations.
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But if we didn't pay taxes how would we have roads? - Boobus Amurikanus
"if we free the slaves, who will pick the cotton?" — Boobus Amureekanus Jr
If I'd have known how bad it was going to be... I'd have picked my own damn cotton.
Probably would have done a better job than your average dumb-ass American anyway
ABOLISH THE FEDERAL RESERVE (Whitehouse Petition. Please sign and share):
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/abolish-federal-reserve-40
"Congress should continue to investigate the IRS’s" very existence.
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My dad, and his brothers and sisters in the '40's DID pick their own damned cotton.
And they did it pretty well.
Agreed!!
Funny you should mention this. I came home Friday to find one area of our dirt road fixed. All the terrible granite boulders were removed and the road groomed to perfection. All of us have bottomed out our cars, hit oil pans and destroyed struts trying to negotiate this area for 15 years. I had the honor of flipping mr Miffed's prized diesel truck there once ( I'm surprised we are still married).
Two days ago we got a notice someone had hired a construction company to do the work which cost 5K. He was asking for donations. We gladly wrote a check for $500 knowing this was more than our fair share but realizing some living here would be hard pressed to pay.
I forget, what is the purpose of government again?
Miffed
I can't remember anymore. I don't think government has ever had a purpose...at least in regards to me, anyway!
We need government.....to keep track of our email.
Theft, intimidation, protection of monopolies, self aggrandizement, political theater and fascism. Feel free to add your own list.
Good story Miffed, glad to hear this.
This is a great example of how crowdsourcing can replace many functions of government.
We live in an era where technology allows us to purchase and subscribe to goods and services. Since the "Income Tax" is thought by the ignorati to pay for "services," why not simply make services optional, and payable by subscription.
Yes, I mean every single service. Have children? You (and ONLY YOU) can choose to pay for their schooling (Homeschool, private, or Hitler Youth Camp (public)). Don't feel like you want fire service protection, OR, feel like giving that new private fire-service startup a try? Subscribe or don't. Don't like the response time of "The Cops(TM)?" Go with a different private firm.
Revoke the corporate charter of Northern Trust and Holdings, and simply make all services optional, and fully consensual. Nobody is forced to pay for things they don't want or need. Every penny is fully accountable, and if the service is not competitive, it will very quickly be defunded. Since currently, "voting" is a yes or no proposition, being able to "Vote" with your dollars would have far more effect.
The only ones that would immediately start bleating are the over-paid corporate ("government") IRS workers that would be summarily fired, and the nanny-state ignorati that are married to the concept that the "income tax" is "fair and equitable." What could be more fair and equitable than giving everyone the ability to support those services that they feel are valuable? This would be as close to "direct democracy" as was possible to get, to all those "direct democracy" supporters.
"came home Friday to find one area of our dirt road fixed."
That story is fit for a Reagan speech, but it hardly addresses things like the interstate system. I know, down away because I'm not sucking from the trough of libertarianism. But it irks me when otherwise seemingly intelligent people ignore glaring issues such as the difference between a local dirt road and an interstate or even a state road, and draw conclusions from nice little stories that justify ignorance of broader issues. Ron Paul is correct in a lot of things, including that government has a legitimate function. It would be much better if rational people had rational discussions about that role, as opposed to happy stories and platitudes.
The issue Miffed illustrates and the interstate system are not qualitatively different. The are only different in terms of scale. Just because you can't imagine a highway system sans government doesn't mean one cannot exist. Indeed, there are many examples of highways in human history which were privately financed.
"Muh roads" is, and will always be, a retarded argument against forcible government taxation. If you want to make a statist argument, at least make a good one.
LTER, here's a link to a book you should check out.
I think most people here would enjoy the book, but I think you may need it.
http://www.amazon.com/Diary-Early-American-Eric-Sloane/dp/1887840516
If they taxed gas and diesel and earmarked all of what came from that tax for roads and the necessary infrastructure for driving, people probably wouldn't bitch as much. You use the roads more, you pay more for their maintenance. But that's not how it works in practice. The taxes typically go into the general fund, government gets greedy and/or stupid and raises the tax, and then they have to issue bonds to pay for the roads.
Hey, and guess what else?
Local would flourish, as in local food growth and even more local production as shipping costs would lose a hidden subsidy and shipping lettuce 1200 miles would cease to make sense for the majority of the county.
Chinese goods would also increase in price, again helping at least marginally, more local production.
But why would we want to help out Americans with better jobs and more tightly knit neighborhoods and local resiliency? They don't so they won't.
Rand, I would be happy to pay for a paved road but for God's sake, stop this crap would you? This is just a clever rewording of the "Well, you don't want bridges, roads, and firemen, I guess. Do you????!" fallacy.
The same old bullshit false dichotomy just repackaged.
Of course I want bridges, roads, and firemen. What I don't want is to have to pay $9 for a bunch of shit I either don't need, are morally opposed to, or actually work against my best interests to get $1 worth of bridges, firemen, and roads.
Idiot.
I'm remodeling a store in Baltimore. Inside and outside. Yesterday, a Bobcat drove onto the lot, out of nowhere, with a jackhammer mounted to the front. It went to a manhole cover, off the edge of the lot, and started scratching and digging up the frame and cover.
At first I thought it might be a scam to steal the metal. A "foreman" pulled up, and explained they were in the area, refurbishing the tops, re bricking and mounting, making them watertight. I did not see a problem with the cover, but these things are done in batches. Ok, fine.
30 minutes later, there where 3 nice size trucks, and about 10-12 working diligently. They had the top re bricked, and covered in a layer of mortar. Very efficient. Private contractor. Shovel ready work. A fair use of tax dollars. Infrastructure maintenance. Great.
Every single worker, except the Forman, was Hispanic. I heard not a word of Engish.
Shovel ready. Infrastructure. Put Americans to work. Yeah, right, South Americans.
When I was deployed in Italy, I witnessed a rather inspiring display of efficiency (in ITALY!): There was a street in front of the hotel we were staying in that was to be repaved. The day before, workers walked down the street and knocked on doors, talked to people, and left flyers telling people to not leave their cars on the street and to expect to not be able to access the street from 8am to around noon. The next morning, trucks showed up, street grinding machines (4 of them) in formation drove down the roughly quarter-mile street and ground the street surface. This was followed by a platoon of guys with brooms, picks, and prybars cleaning up details, followed closely by a tar-sprayer, followed by three trucks rolling fabric, then by trucks dumping asphalt, followed by guys with rakes and shovels followed by compactors and rollers. In the end, they repaved that street in less than 4 hours - and did a beautiful job. Something that would have taken at least a week in 'Murica. Turns out the public works guys get paid based on how much work they accomplish, not by the hour.
Lving in dallas - we have several Toll Roads. All are very well constructed and maintained and if your car breaks down or you have a flat tire - the toll authority is there in 15 minutes to either change the tire or tow the car. These are owned and operated by private capital. Converslt - the Interstates 635, 35 , 75 are pot hole riddled pieces of shit - with constant "Construction" (defined as 10 guys standing around leaning on a shovel with one guy in a bulldozer actually doing anything). I guess what I am saying is - we need government for one thing and one thing only - ntional defense, and that could be a lot more affordable if we would mind our own business and if defense contractors ripping off the government were sent to prison rather than being awarded more contracts.
Nice ad-hominem attack, BTW, LTER: i.e. anyone who doesn't agree with your viewpoint is "shallow, ignorant, jumps to conclusions, irrational, otherwise-intelligent, and a mindless piece of libertarian livestock" - a classic liberal attack.
Forget the interstate highway system. Do you know anything about how a pencil is made? It's international, amigo.
http://www.econlib.org/library/Essays/rdPncl1.html
There are women in the comment section! I'm impressed. Now, if only the women that the Tylers write about had half the intelligence as Mrs Miffed (unless this is one of the same sex marriage thingies. Even then, only if Barney Frank had 1/2 the intelligence of Miffed), America would be headed in the right direction.
Ummm, yes I am a woman and if you don't mind, please don't put me and Barney Frank in the same sentence? Sexual orientation being one of our many differences.
Miffed;-)
But wait - you both like men, right? I often tell people I'm just a lesbian trapped in a man's body .....
Ok, I guess I should dispense with the confusing nuance and just speak frankly.
I take great pleasure in masculinity including anatomical differences which deliciously complement my own. I also find the male mind utterly fascinating in its simplicity of reason as well as perspective which is often at a stark contrast to my own mind awash in a cacophony of conflicting ideas and impulses. I enjoy the fact my femininity seems to be appreciated by the masculine and as honoring such, I am often rewarded with a sharing from men who often are reticent ( with good reason) to divulge their opinions.
Ok, that was a bit wordy. How 'bout I ain't gay? But, I must admit knowing a lot of male lesbians. ;-)
Miffed
There used to be a time in America where we solved our problems locally, either through the church or community, where we took care of our own.
But it evolved to now, where taxes from a Central government took more of our money to pay for those needs, but the money for the needy was skimmed and the needy got less and the donators got no recognition. So now both the recipient and the giver gets less and the middleman profits. That is Central Govt and it doesn't' work well for those who give and those in need.
I miss America.
That works on a strictly local level. But I can give you ample historical examples; large economies simply do not function unless governments are subsidizing the means of transport. Which would be fine with me, if it wasn't for the fact that any small economy today is going to be conquered by a larger one. It's totalinarianism going forward as far as the eye can see.
The IRS is not the government.
It's a private for-profit corporation, held by Northern Trust and Holdings. Every penny it has generated ("revenues" are generated) since its charter in 1913 has been pure profit. When do we get to see the IRS's tax documents? Because EVERY PENNY it has taken in has been "taxable." I would be shocked, shocked I tell you, if they were not paying their fair share.
The public needs to stop treating it as part of the government. It's not, and never was.
Stop asking to see "the law" that "requires" you to pay. Titles that you claim ("Citizen" "US Person (Corporation)" "Voter") all create an implied contract with this Corporate entity. You are paying a fee for use of the titles and use of private script (FRNS), and they WILL take those revenues from you.
Stop with the Patriotic bullcrap ("worshiping another daddy"). Stop with the whole "the 16th amendment was never properly ratified" crap. As long as you claim to be entitled, the Lords of the Land will collect revenues from your capit (head). That's what CAPITalism is. No different than communism. The Lords ("The People") own your ass in both systems. Some day, maybe we will have an open-market economic system (what folks mistakenly refer to as capitalism currently), but not until people stop patronizing their predators.
Start working at home with Google ! Its by-far the best mixed bag of goods I've had. Last Thursday I got a trademark new Bmw since getting a check for $6474 this - 4 weeks past. I began this 8-months ago and immediately was coming with house at least $77 per hour. I work through this connection, go.to tech marker for work detail.... www.globe-report.com
Who did they make the collector and enforcer for the "Affordable" Care Act?
Why, the I.R.S. of course!
Just wait until next year when the fines go up to $395 or 2% of income, whichever is greater!
They can garnish your paycheck, put levies on your accounts - the tentacles are already there; the shit is going to hit the fan and something big my friends!
the formation of the EU was all about "asset-stripping" Europe for the bankers-just like they've been doing to the USA for several generations.
In Europe and the USA it works as follows-
Income taxation and the IRS reporting requirements provide the road map;then targeted tax increases and regulation by compliant legislatures provide the mechanisms of extraction.
When vote time comes the immigration gates are opened to drown the native opposition to being ass-raped yet again
Rinse Repeat
The guys enabling it all make out pretty good
the Greeks BTW, will get f'd because they refused the reporting requirements part of the deal
"But if we didn't pay taxes how would we have roads?"
The roads would be privatized and paid for by usage tolls. The small companies would eventually come under the control of a corporate monopolist who would unify and control tolls for maximum shareholder (ie CEOs) return.
Tire taxes, it's all about only taxing what you use, you know, being smart about it, exactly what we don't have with todays leaders.
If I only had a nickel for every time I've heard that when the topic of income taxes comes up... and a nickel for rapid subjet change by the person who utters this nonsense.
I always reply "that's what taxes on gasoline are used for".
Free yourselves. No one is ever going to do it for you......
The most powerful weapon the American people have is Rejection.
The system of fraud and theft that has been built up upon the backs of the American people is dependent upon our backs. Withdraw our backs, and the whole scheme collapses. This is our greatest weapon.
Stop Paying--Put it into food, and precious metals, etc. They stole whatever "debt money" they loaned you in the first place (fraudulent-reserve banking) and soon you won't be able to pay them anyways, so Stop Paying.
Stop Playing--Stop being a tool for them to use, mock, and call "stupid." Stop Playing.
Stop Obeying--If they are in violation of the Constitution then they are not legitimate anyways, so Stop Obeying their unlawful dictates.
The Four Rs
Rejection: Stop Paying. Stop Playing. Stop Obeying.
Revolution: It is inevitable, so prepare, as they are.
Retribution: The guilty must answer for their crimes against the American people and the Constitution. No “truth and reconciliation,” but “trial and Retribution.”
Restoration: Restore the American people, country and Constitutional republic.
The banksters need to repay us.
Sounds great Chris bit I'm too old for prison. Good luck on cell block D
This is precisely why nothing will change. People are too tired, too afraid, or have too much to lose. Our keepers know us very, very well. When given the option, we will choose to be the house cat.
You too can be the house cat with the urine smell!
I'm making $7474 dollars a week being a part-time house cat obeying my government and it's awesome. Google www.myswollenbutt.com and for just signing up get three free vaseline coupons!!
Kchris - I dunno - isn't that what Greece did to get to 180% debt/GDP?
Obviously the spending spree will never end - until nobody accepts the dollar that is.
Most of the people have been indoctrinated and fear the threats of imprisonment if they step out of line and stop giving their money to the government. it takes balls to stand up and say NO to the illegitimate ways of the corrupt government..
What it means to me to Secede is to stop all participation and voluntary compliance with the tax collectors. I am sort of an agorist and since 1979 have practiced freedom. I wish millions more would join in and starve the great beast, Washington.
Secede or Die, it still your choice.
One of my favorite fantasies is that every fucking wage slave in the world would wake up tomorrow and say fuck you, I'm not coming back to work. But this will only be effective if a large number of people do it, same a the stuff you're suggesting. This will absolutely not happen.
When a country has no social services you get the Philippines you want that here? Without social services instead of beholding to the state the people become beholding to the churches that fill the void then you get the Middle East You want sectarian religious open warfare in America because very soon that is what you will have here.
We know because that is what happens elsewhere the got a stupid as this guy.
That is a stupid comparison. Countries located in the tropics typically are not advanced because of recurrent hurricanes and monsoons, which lead to mud slides, floods, and natural disasters. Those things continually sap resources (for rebuilding) from countries who from the beginning have few natural resources to exploit. Add to that tropical diseases like dengue and yellow fever and you have a recipe for low economic growth.
Even with the facts you state I am amazed how many associates of mine are planning to retire to the Philippines. Their meager retirement going a lot further with the lower cost of living. Personally, my work makes me nervous locating to an environment where I would have no natural immunity, preferring the bugs I know.
Miffed
Mediterranean climate over tropics anytime. Less bugs, period.
I'd take Appalachian climate over either.
I like mountains as much as the ocean though.
That is a stupid comparison. Countries located in the tropics typically are not advanced because of recurrent hurricanes and monsoons, which lead to mud slides, floods, and natural disasters. Those things continually sap resources (for rebuilding) from countries who from the beginning have few natural resources to exploit. Add to that tropical diseases like dengue and yellow fever and you have a recipe for low economic growth.
Funny, Davao city and most of PH is going like gangbusters.
You mean gangbusters. Most of the several thousand islands of the Philippines don't recognize Manila and run their own militia.
Some good places in the Phils.
http://touroriental.com/
@5965563
What about Singapore, Hong Kong, Macao, Taiwan, Malaysia and (northern) Australia?
I want a line item veto, no tax money for War, every taxpayer choose for himself
of course I'm a dreamer..
"When a country has no social services you get the Philippines you want that here?"
PH has some social services, it's just not a welfare / nanny socialist state.
It's a damn good non-nanny state with a lot of other good features.
Illegals not welcome, many speak English, and the USD still goes far there.
Bugs, yeah. But no bug as big as the the parasites in the US.
@crud, That might be one of the stupidest comments I have read during my time reading ZH. Wow!
Are you really dumb enough to believe that prosperity comes from the government? If that's the case, why have Communist systems performed so poorly?
The Phiippines have a shitload of government "services" and controls. They have the socialist-nanny state out-the-ass. They just can't do any of it well. Its why they are poor, corrupt, and can't get ahead.
I believe you meant to say "They have corruption, organized crime, and pirates out-the-ass." However, they do produce the world's best billiards players.
Spoken like a true collectivist POS...Keep your Fing grubby hands out of my pockets and go make it yourself. It's too bad that we have reached the tipping point (where there are more people on the dole than people producing)I can't wait until your unrealistic world comes crashing down around your head, as this socialist utopia runs out of other peoples money.Good luck to you and your parasitic ilk. :P
Can you tell I just paid my taxes. :P
no, No, NO!!! Jeebus Fracking Krist! How well has propaganda worked on you! When you have no GOVERNMENT social services you have PRIVATE CHARITIES, like the AMERICAN RED CROSS or other MUTUAL AID SOCIETIES that existed before FRACKING Lyndon Baynes "when I nominate a n!ggr to the court I want everyone to know he is a n!ggr" Johnson decided to take it over with his war on poverty.
FRACK ME!!!!
Churches have been around since the beginning of this human cycle (Minoans) and I suspect were around last cycle also. Long before gaubimint decided to save us from poverty and want and embarrassing moments and acne and....
RON PAUL IS A LYING HYPOCRITICAL SACK OF SHIT.
THE BANKS ARE THE IRS PERIOD!
THIS GUY IS WALKING, TALKING fucking INSANE ASYLUM.
Ad hominem attacks are the last refuge of scoundrels
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Oops, forgot to take your Thorazine again.
He does certainly speak what some want to hear, even without all caps. He is unfortunately irrelevant. He had his chance and he blew it and it maybe it wasn't even his fault. Either way, he is out now and there is no one in. If he had any strength at all he would wrangle his son's neck for being even more of a sellout than he is. We are done with the Paul legacy I think. We get it already. We don't need the blow by blow from someone using a walker. Great speeches and whatnot but it didn't do anything in the past and that's not his fault..entirely, although he was affiliated and caved. If he showed up at that first debate with some 10,000 gun toting nut supporters, he might have had his day on the debate. He didn't though and I have not listened to him since. He is not bad at all but he is not strong. Truth is, no one is so I wish he would just enjoy his retirement and leave us out of it. This train isn't stopping.
What's your point?
"He is unfortunately irrelevant."
Because he isn't "powerful?" LOL! I see a great mind at work here.
The mainstream media just may have deliberately marginalized him or, depending on the slant, characterized him as a racist (abhorrent to libs) or as having a foreign policy dangerous to America (abhorrent to cons).
Clearly, asking Americans to think about real issues is frightening to the PTB and the momentum he built in 2008 scared the shit out of them. Which is why they ignored him during debates, laughed off his astute and accurate observations (remember Gulliani's reaction to 'blowback?).
I can spot a TV watcher from a mile away. Here we have one.
Downvote.
1) what is an IRS PERIOD? that sounds yucky
2) why is the curse word the only word not in all caps, WHAT KIND OF ANIMAL are YOU?
Never in this lifetime.
I think it is a fucking bargain what we get for our taxes.
Putz.
Will Rogers: Be thankful we aren't getting the government we pay.
... said the government employee.
Spoken like a true bankster.
It's a real bargain when you ain't paying for it.
Fuck you parasite.
You have to quit that Washington D.C. nation and join mine. True you'd have to give up alcohol and live around creatures that look like one egg set on top another but we're IRS free bitchez. Imagine it. No freakin tax collectors.
"When a country has no social services you get the Philippines you want that here?"
When a country has freedom, you get the American country of 1796 to 1913. When a country has freedom, you get Hong Kong up to about 1992.
The banksters need to repay us.
"Social services" start with theft, and create more in need of "social services" to the benefit of those stealing the funding for "social services."
Do a little research on the conditions for the working class 1796-1913 and get back to me.
Sure, 1796-1913 saw a marked improvement in working conditions. From the end of slavery to the shifting of work towards machinery, the income, life expectancy and overall health of the American worker actually improved during that century. Yes, the working conditions of Chinese, Irish and Scottish immigrants were worst than the working conditions of today's immigrants, yet the overall conditions were better than those of workers in their countries of origin (otherwise they wouldn't have boarded A FRACKING BOAT to get here)
+1,000
The banksters need to repay us.
"While some officials like Lois Lerner who find themselves at the center of a high-profile scandal or partisan dispute can expect harsh treatment from Congress, this is the exception, not the rule."
Fixed that.
"While some officials like Lois Lerner who find themselves at the center of a high-profile scandal or partisan dispute can expect harsh treatment from Congress, this is the exception, not the rule."
Wrong it is theater for the masses. Bread and circuses nothing more.
Is the Justice Department pursuing criminal contempt charges against her? No.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/doj-no-contempt-charges-against-lois-lerner/
so if no Americans signed up for Military or NSA duty...
They will not leave. They will not back off. They will continue to crush and inslave.
Since when is the IRS a government agency? According to my research, the IRS is a privately owned trust operating out of Puerto Rico.
Your taxes don't go to the general fund. They are split between the City of London Corporation and the Vatican.
The purpose of your "birth certificate" is to sell your tax producing income to investors.
Freaky, huh?
Internal Revenue Service.
No one ever told you who they were serving lol.
The best way to invalidate the IRS is to fire yourself.
Say it like Donald Trump himself, "You're fired!"
Heh
At this rate we'll all be laid off collecting whaterver bread crumbs the government feeds us so that we don't revolt. IRS problem solved. No income...no income tax.
Viva Doctor Pablo!
Muerta a IRS! Los tiranos!
theater of the absurd. the pols must be hearing from some loud constituents they have to pander to for a few bucks to do nothing for them in the end. it would take the support of the .1% to abolish the legal(is it?) theft of my labor.
meanwhile. in russia, there is better theater.
Chief of Ukraine’s emergencies service, his deputy arrested during Cabinet meeting WorldMarch 25, 14:22 UTC+3
Both were charged with fraud schemes in carrying out state purchases
1 2 3 +KIEV, March 25. /TASS/. The head of Ukraine’s state service responsible for handling emergency situations, Sergey Bochkovsky, and his first deputy, Vasily Stoyetsky, have been arrested for using fraudulent schemes in carrying out state purchases. Both were handcuffed at a meeting of the Cabinet with a group of journalists watching. Dozens of TV cameras were on at the moment.
"Sergey Bochkovsky and his first deputy, Vasily Stoyetsky, were detained under article 208. Their offices are being searched," an investigator said.
Read also Russian lawmaker warns Ukrainian tycoons may rise in revolt against president Finance Minister Jaresko may succeed Yatsenyuk as Ukraine PM — experts Reshuffles expected in Ukraine's government — Ukrainian lawmaker Ukrainian PM party’s electoral rating going down — poll Ukraine commission called for to probe PM and government corruptionAccording to Interior Minister Arsen Avakov, state purchases were carried out through private companies, which eventually transferred the proceeds to the accounts of Bochkovsky’s and Stoyetsky’s companies in Jersey Island.
He also demanded dismissal of the chiefs of all heads of regional offices of the emergencies service involved.
"This week, John Koskinen, the current IRS commissar, responded to these cries to end the IRS by pointing out that shutting down the IRS would deprive Congress of the revenue needed to fund the welfare-warfare state."
The last I checked, the Fed prints whatever is needed by the government. Why the need for taxes in the first place?
to keep you poor and under control
There is only one reason:
So that data can be gathered on which new and existing entrepreneurial markets are the most profitable, which offer the greatest ROI, etc.
This information is then shared with crony capitalists so that they may know which prey is most suitable for takeover. Capiche?
Yes, seriously.
PS- of course, there's the thousands employed as Tax preparers, tax attorneys, IRS employees, and other leeches on society. That would be out of work, as well.
That's one of their many rackets.
My two penneth worth on this one.
FED creates the money Government spends it in the economy.
You grab it in some way if you can competing with corporations who stash it.
IRS then grabs it back way to go Sherlock.
In this process a whole shed load of this money goes to China.
Next time round depending on how effective the taxing is of YOU and the CORPORATIONS the FED makes up this loss to China on the next print.
When you read all the concepts of the fiat money system in shock nobody looks any further to the other mechanism. In the central bank forced inflation world for that is what it is this became a financial tool and nobody recognised it.
KILL the Federal Reserve, and everything else will begin to fix itself naturally.
Whatta complete phony. I wanna see him try to shut down IRS. He is not gonna last the week. How is USA gonna wage wars and finance itself without the IRS? I pity the fools who fall for his BS.
Sadly, Rand is a sellout whore to TPTB, and does not appear to be related to daddy.
If I had it to do all over again, I'd have insisted that my sons were.delivered by Dr Paul.
Hey ZHers I'm trying to verify a claim please help me out.
In a previous ZH article some time back it was reported that banks have to file a minimum quota of SARs (suspicious activity reports). I'm trying to verify whether this is true, but all sources seem to lead back to the same ZH article which doesn't source the claim. (If you're blaming Simon Black here, you're correct.)
Can someone help me figure out if that claim is true or not?
Article from 2004 so it could be outdated:
"The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, the Office of the Comptroller
of the Currency, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, the Office of Thrift
Supervision, and the National Credit Union Administration (the “agencies”) and
FinCEN are not aware of any specific situations where an institution has been
criticized solely because the number of Suspicious Activity Reports filed did not
meet a minimum threshold or for not filing the same number of Suspicious Activity
Reports as “peer” institutions. It is not the policy or practice of the agencies or
FinCEN to draw conclusions based solely on the number of Suspicious Activity
Reports filed. Nonetheless, as evidenced by the Industry Forum article written by
the American Bankers Association, there is a perception and concern within the
financial services industry that examiners are criticizing institutions on this basis."
You can read the rest here: http://www.fincen.gov/news_room/rp/sar_tti.html
issue 7 - August 2004 page 51 in the document but better start on page 45
Reports by banks of suspicious transactions.: http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?rgn=div8&node=31:3.1.6.1.4.3.5.8
Have fun investigating.
Ron Paul is proposing social darwinism.
It is no brainer to figure out it would lead to a violent revolution pretty soon
So if the FED can print money and loan it indefinitely at 0% interest why is the IRS even needed? The gov can just borrow or sell treasuries to the FED and never repay. Conclusion: The IRS is just a terrorist tool to enslave the public and has nothing to do with a budget.
He want us to trade the new deal for his raw deal.
Like we told every politician before him show me.
Pie in the fucking sky bull shit.
Running a god damn household is not fucking free and with prices where they are from ass clowns like his dad
Running a country with a huge defense machine is not free what to know where your taxes go it sure aint social services
But then again the military just might be at least the unit I was in pretty much look like it.
I know there working for it we called it shamming all day.
Alright welfare recipient, listen up. Running a household is the business of the household, the government is an UNNECESSARY parasitical organization where 1% of the population control the other 99% thru intimidation, coercion, bribery and violence.
Now back to your Oprah
This moron wants to be President but not badly enough to risk his seat so he got his state to change the rules so he could keep it and run. What a looser right out of the gate.
The time has passed for wasting energy within this system. We need initiatives with teeth. I'm thinking something more along the lines of encouraging people not to pay their property tax en mass. Get your ass on the TV and say; Your government is out of control. Your votes don't count. They are using your tax dollars to fund illegal wars and oppress people around the world. It's time for it to stop!! The most effective ballot cast is from your wallet!!!
I, Ron Paul, encourage you to stop paying your taxes today!!
This might sound ridiculous, but it makes a hell of a lot more sense then trying to change this system from within.
Psychopaths don't stop hurting you when you ask nicely. They understand one thing: force.
Remember, George Washington and Co didn't get the British to leave by asking them. He shot them.
An Oliver Cromwell moment ... so all nations have it from time to time and the king lost his head on this one. The French and Russina revolution are exactly the same and even Rome was sacked by rebelling barbarians.
George Washington and Co were just another flip of the coin on this.
end the welfare-warfare state? Ha, ha, omg, rofl, HOW?
I really don't mind ... a little problem occurs for the sheep though, forget the wolves they have bodyguards. What do those who look for work but cannot find any do when so many man hours on the goods americans buy are outsourced from around the world. That gets ugly!
Now you could pay less for the goods, again I don't mind and return that work home but all the costs of food, housing, everything have too collapse BIG DEFLATION you only got a puny deflation at the moment so that the income earned in America can pay for the cost in america.
If you cannot afford it then it don't buy and places like China willl start devaluing like crazy to retain the supply link like a drug dealer.
It is the same for all the western nations who have been inflating YOY for decades relying on the cheapness of the goods from abroad so they do not have a western price tag whilst the central banks just created the value that flowed to these other nations.
This point is the most pertinent though and you know the central bank is a thief?
Without the welfare-warfare mechanism YOU WOULD HAVE CAUGHT THE THIEVES but you allowed them to do this so they live a little longer until you get the opportunity again.
Comical like a goons show!
Okay, let's all get something perfectly straight. there are 3 houses of government; there's the executive branch, the legislative branch, and the judicial branch. You KNOW your government is in trouble when the executive and legislative branches want to perform judicial functions, and the judicial branch and legislative branches want to perform executive functions, and the executive and judicial branches want to perform legislative functions.
that said, if I was called to 'testify' before Congress, I would make it clear to the dummies there that I understand that I would go only for the theater that they create. They are not performing a judicial function by calling people to testify, they are not a judicial body, no matter what they want to pretend. If I am called to testify, I would tell congress I'll wait for a justice order compelling me to testify IN COURT. Then congress can do what they want. Congress won't ever do that, because it steals their theater from them, and the theater, with the bullying and intimidation, is what it's really all about. It has nothing to do with judicial proceedings. In fact, I may even ask the question as to why the legsilative body is engaging itself in judicial activities?
Congressional oversight dipshit.
Politicians who vote for warfare abroad and welfare at home yet claim they want to shut down the IRS should not be taken seriously.
Sounds like he is describing Rand as of late even though he is taking a veiled swipe at Ted Cruz. I thought Ron was out of the politics business.
Fed & IRS..both independent of congress both came into being at near same time..dots along a line of dots we are now the result of this 100yrs later.,.eyes wide shut types say: what about the roads...LOL
They both die an irrelevant death if you cut off the return flows for both.
No taxes paid, IRS dies since it runs out of energy and purpose to sustain itself. Same with the FED, they need return flow aka currency also not just unlimited printing powers. Those TBTF banks are ultimately going to break the FED at this rate. That is why they are really instituting negative interest rates... They can't juice the system with more money at this point without breaking the whole thing without castastrophic global consequences. Governments have to step in to loosen the resistance of TBTF banks and that ain't happening if anyone has been paying any sort of attention.
V=IR, it is not rocket science.
Money is not currency money aka FRN's are voltage, Current is currency aka +/- interest rates, Banks are resistors, FED is the voltage generator. IRS is also part of the electrical circuit.
You break the flow on the return circuit you break both institutions.
To expand on this fractional reserve banking is nothing more than an electrical transformers changing voltage levels within a closed loop network which makes banks transformer circuits that are not discharging when TBTF banks won't lend/discharge money into the rest of the circuit to keep the flow/currency consistant in turn starving the FED of return flow. With that said the IRS is really subset of another transformer aka the US government which does the same converting AC voltage aka FRN's to DC voltage aka Treasury Bonds.
Title 26 7701(16) Withholding agent: (your employer or a third party)
16) Withholding agent
The term “withholding agent” means any person required to deduct and withhold any tax under the provisions of section 1441, 1442,1443, or 1461.
26 U.S. Code § 1441 - Withholding of tax on nonresident aliens 26 U.S. Code § 1442 - Withholding of tax on foreign corporations 26 U.S. Code § 1443 - Foreign tax-exempt organizationsand US citizens living and working abroad, NOT US citizens livining and working domestically.
Just sayin : )
All those years in congress and he did not one thing that made any American any freer.
A pox on his devotees.
He did all that a minority of one could have done. Nobody put him in control of his banker bought and paid for cohorts without which- we couldn't even manage to audit the FED. That's not his fault.
Btw, what have you done to make andbody "freer?"
I certainly didn't go full psychopath and run for office raising money from donors so I could like like a king above the laws while throwing bones out for the already converted to gnaw on while everything goes to shit. That's YOUR boy.
bullshit. he woke up millions to necons and assorted other commies and ex-commies con games.
Congress really bashed up the "bash brothers" but when it comes to gov goons, eh no can.
The IRS is the power arm of politicians.
There is no way they will ever get rid of the IRS - it is their hammer held over the US citizens head and they like it that way.
Government for the people by the people?
Not by these thugs.
Actually the Fed is the power arm. Only by monetizing debt to cover fiscal deficits can the government continue to misspend and cover the shortfall from not enough tax revenue.
Congress does not control the FED, they do however control the IRS
Riddle me this?
Our State govt. in TX is in session 1/2 year every other year. So, why can we not cut the federal government by having one 6 month session. The way to limit govt. is truly limit govt. Sure make it a lot tougher if politicians had to live amongst the people they create all of these laws for. Also, be a lot harder for lobby groups to take posession of a politician when thye are sprinkled across 50 states. I know this makes too much sense, but our state seems to limp along!
Riddle me this?
Our State govt. in TX is in session 1/2 year every other year. So, why can we not cut the federal government by having one 6 month session. The way to limit govt. is truly limit govt. Sure make it a lot tougher if politicians had to live amongst the people they create all of these laws for. Also, be a lot harder for lobby groups to take posession of a politician when thye are sprinkled across 50 states. I know this makes too much sense, but our state seems to limp along!
http://end-the-irs.com/
Social Security and unemployment are not welfare but earned by the people who receive them. On the other hand, the problem is the Rothschild bankers, corporations and politicians stealing trillions from the USA and most countries of the world. Welfare is not the problem. Criminal politicians, corporations and bankers are the problem.
Bullshit. SS pays out tons of money to peope who did not earn anything. It pays out way more than can be justified by any financial returns. Unemployment is not earned by those who receive it. It may or may not be wise policy but to speak of insurance benefits from a policy paid for by pothers as earned is stretching the word beyond recognition. Welfare is a problem - especiallially including corporate welfare.
Welfare is an unsolvable problem, because you take it away and you're going to have mass starvation int he western world. I live in smalltown rural MN, I know a LOT of people on welfare. News flash: most of them are working. Some of them are two job households. None of them can make it without the welfare. The cost of living relative to wages paid is simply too damn high.
It's stuff like this that convinces me Ron Paul is controlled opposition. He knows damn good and well that his proposals will A) never be adopted and B) would be neutered even if they did. My favorite is his bullshit about auditing the fed; as long as he's been on capitol hill he cannot possibly be stupid enough to believe that an audit of the fed would produce accurate or useful information. He's a shill. His purpose has always been to convince the disaffected that one of theirs is in Washington and there might still be hope in politics. He's there to keep you from doing anything that might actually be effective.The day he or his son make a proposal that might actually have a chance of changing something, I'll take them seriously.
shill for who?
You will be able to tell whena politician is actually anti establisment and I am not talking about a sitting senator.
You will know because he will be winning and not taking a single donation.
This is the one I will vote for.