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Warren Buffett, Slumlord – Predatory Loans, Kickbacks & Preying On The Poor

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Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

The disastrous deal ruined their finances and nearly their marriage. But until informed recently by a reporter, they didn’t realize that the homebuilder (Golden West), the dealer (Oakwood Homes) and the lender (21st Mortgage) were all part of a single company: Clayton Homes, the nation’s biggest homebuilder, which is controlled by its second-richest man — Warren Buffett.

 

Buffett’s mobile-home empire promises low-income Americans the dream of homeownership. But Clayton relies on predatory sales practices, exorbitant fees, and interest rates that can exceed 15 percent, trapping many buyers in loans they can’t afford and in homes that are almost impossible to sell or refinance, an investigation by The Seattle Times and Center for Public Integrity has found.

 

Berkshire Hathaway, the investment conglomerate Buffett leads, bought Clayton in 2003 and spent billions building it into the mobile-home industry’s biggest manufacturer and lender. Today, Clayton is a many-headed hydra with companies operating under at least 18 names, constructing nearly half of the industry’s new homes and selling them through its own retailers. It finances more mobile-home purchases than any other lender by a factor of six. It also sells property insurance on them and repossesses them when borrowers fail to pay.

 

Former dealers said the company encouraged them to steer buyers to finance with Clayton’s own high-interest lenders.

 

Buyers told of Clayton collection agents urging them to cut back on food and medical care or seek handouts in order to make house payments.

 

To maintain its down-to-earth image, Clayton has hired the stars of the reality-TV show “Duck Dynasty” to appear in ads…

 

- From the excellent Seattle Times article: The Mobile-Home Trap: How a Warren Buffett Empire Preys on the Poor

In so many ways, Warren Buffett and modern America are the same thing. An idea packaged and marketed so brilliantly, most of humanity unquestionably believes the myth. Warren Buffett and the U.S. both sell themselves as encompassing the very best of human qualities; highly successful, extraordinarily intelligent, yet at the same time, extremely ethical. It’s that last part that’s actually most important to the continued power and prestige of both the man and the nation-state. However, when you look beneath the surface, it becomes increasingly clear that neither of them actually come close to what’s printed on the package.

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Incredibly, Mr. Buffett has proven far more successful in maintaining and nurturing his own personal myth, than America itself has during these post crisis years. While more and more people domestically, and especially internationally, have come to acknowledge the hypocrisy of U.S. foreign and economic policy, it continues to be something marginally short of cultural blasphemy to harshly criticize Warren Buffett. This provides a fertile environment for him to continue to doggedly and ruthlessly expand his ubiquitous economic and political empire.

This is not an empire built simply on cheeseburgers, cherry coke and ice cream cones. As you will see in the following article, his empire is also dependent on predatory lending to the poor, kickbacks, market domination, lobbying and opacity, via Berkshire Hathaway’s mobile home company, Clayton Homes.

Clayton Homes was previously mentioned here at Liberty Blitzkrieg a year ago in the post, With 1 in 3 Homes Unaffordable, Freddie Mac Prepares to Enter the Trailer Home Loan Market, but an excellent deep-dive article recently published by the Seattle Times provides a great deal of additional and extremely disturbing information.

Here are some excerpts, but I strongly suggest reading the entire article:

Billionaire philanthropist Warren Buffett controls a mobile-home empire that promises low-income borrowers affordable houses. But all too often, it traps those owners in high-interest loans and rapidly depreciating homes.

 

EPHRATA, Grant County — After years of living in a 1963 travel trailer, Kirk and Patricia Ackley found a permanent house with enough space to host grandkids and care for her aging father suffering from dementia.

 

So, as the pilot cars prepared to guide the factory-built home up from Oregon in May 2006, the Ackleys were elated to finalize paperwork waiting for them at their loan broker’s kitchen table.

 

But the closing documents he set before them held a surprise: The promised 7 percent interest rate was now 12.5 percent, with monthly payments of $1,100, up from $700.

 

The terms were too extreme for the Ackleys. But they’d already spent $11,000, at the dealer’s urging, for a concrete foundation to accommodate this specific home.

 

Kirk’s construction job and Patricia’s Wal-Mart job together weren’t enough to afford the new monthly payment. But, they said, the broker was willing to inflate their income in order to qualify them for the loan.

 

The disastrous deal ruined their finances and nearly their marriage. But until informed recently by a reporter, they didn’t realize that the homebuilder (Golden West), the dealer (Oakwood Homes) and the lender (21st Mortgage) were all part of a single company: Clayton Homes, the nation’s biggest homebuilder, which is controlled by its second-richest man — Warren Buffett.

 

Buffett’s mobile-home empire promises low-income Americans the dream of homeownership. But Clayton relies on predatory sales practices, exorbitant fees, and interest rates that can exceed 15 percent, trapping many buyers in loans they can’t afford and in homes that are almost impossible to sell or refinance, an investigation by The Seattle Times and Center for Public Integrity has found.

 

Berkshire Hathaway, the investment conglomerate Buffett leads, bought Clayton in 2003 and spent billions building it into the mobile-home industry’s biggest manufacturer and lender. Today, Clayton is a many-headed hydra with companies operating under at least 18 names, constructing nearly half of the industry’s new homes and selling them through its own retailers. It finances more mobile-home purchases than any other lender by a factor of six. It also sells property insurance on them and repossesses them when borrowers fail to pay.

 

Berkshire extracts value at every stage of the process. Clayton even builds the homes with materials — such as paint and carpeting — supplied by other Berkshire subsidiaries.

 

Former dealers said the company encouraged them to steer buyers to finance with Clayton’s own high-interest lenders.

 

Buyers told of Clayton collection agents urging them to cut back on food and medical care or seek handouts in order to make house payments. And when homes got hauled off to be resold, some consumers already had paid so much in fees and interest that the company still came out ahead. Even through the Great Recession and housing crisis, Clayton was profitable every year, generating $558 million in pre-tax earnings in 2014.

 

The company’s tactics contrast with Buffett’s public profile as a financial sage who values responsible lending and helping poor Americans keep their homes.

This is the key to Buffett’s continued success. A public profile that is basically a myth compared with reality.

Berkshire Hathaway spokeswoman Carrie Sova and Clayton spokeswoman Audrey Saunders ignored more than a dozen requests by phone, email and in person to discuss Clayton’s policies and treatment of consumers. In an emailed statement, Saunders said Clayton helps customers find homes within their budgets and has a “purpose of opening doors to a better life, one home at a time.”

 

In 2013, Clayton provided 39 percent of new mobile-home loans, according to a Times/CPI analysis of federal data that 7,000 home lenders are required to submit. The next biggest lender was Wells Fargo, with just 6 percent of the loans.

Of course, Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway is the largest shareholder in Wells Fargo.

Clayton provided more than half of new mobile-home loans in eight states. In Texas, the number exceeds 70 percent. Clayton has more than 90 percent of the market in Odessa, one of the most expensive places in the country to finance a mobile home.

 

To maintain its down-to-earth image, Clayton has hired the stars of the reality-TV show “Duck Dynasty” to appear in ads.

It’s all just a show, yet Americans remain completely awestruck by this clever oligarch.

“Home purchases should involve an honest-to-God down payment of at least 10% and monthly payments that can be comfortably handled by the borrower’s income,” Buffett later wrote. “That income should be carefully verified.”

 

But in examining more than 100 Clayton home sales through interviews and reviews of loan documents from 41 states, reporters found that the company’s loans routinely violated the lending standards laid out by Buffett.

 

Clayton dealers often sold homes with no cash down payment. Numerous borrowers said they were persuaded to take on outsized payments by dealers promising that they could later refinance. And the average loan term actually increased from 21 years in 2007 to more than 23 years in 2009, the last time Berkshire disclosed that detail.

 

Many borrowers interviewed for this investigation described being steered by Clayton dealers into Clayton financing without realizing the companies were one and the same. Sometimes, buyers said, the dealer described the financing as the best deal available. Other times, the Clayton dealer said it was the only financing option.

 

Kevin Carroll, former owner of a Clayton-affiliated dealership in Indiana, said in an interview that he used business loans from a Clayton lender to finance inventory for his lot. If he also guided homebuyers to work with the same lender, 21st Mortgage, the company would give him a discount on his business loans — a “kickback,” in his words.

 

During the most recent four-year period, 93 percent of Clayton’s mobile-home loans had such costly terms that they required extra disclosure under federal rules. Among all other mobile-home lenders, fewer than half of their loans met that threshold.

 

A couple of years after moving into their new mobile home, Kirk Ackley was injured in a backhoe rollover. Unable to work, he and his wife urgently needed to refinance the costly 21st Mortgage loan they regretted signing.

 

They pleaded with the lender several times for the better terms that they originally were promised, but were denied, they said. The Ackleys tried to explain the options to a 21st supervisor: If they refinanced to lower payments, they could stay in the home and 21st would get years of steady returns. Otherwise, the company would have to come out to their rural property, pull the house from its foundation and haul it away, possibly damaging it during the repossession.

 

They both recall being baffled by his reply: “We don’t care. We’ll come take a chainsaw to it — cut it up and haul it out in boxes.”

 

Nine Clayton consumers interviewed for this story said they were promised a chance to refinance. In reality, Clayton almost never refinances loans and accounts for well under 1 percent of mobile-home refinancings reported in government data from 2010 to 2013. It made more than one-third of the purchase loans during that period.

 

Carroll has since sold belongings, borrowed money from relatives and cut back on groceries to make payments. When she was late, she spoke frequently to Clayton’s phone agents, whom she described as “the rudest, most condescending people I have ever dealt with.” It’s a characterization echoed by almost every borrower interviewed for this story.

 

Consumers say the company’s response to pleas for help is an invasive interrogation about their family budgets, including how much they spend on food, toiletries and utilities.

 

Denise Pitts, of Knoxville, Tenn., said Vanderbilt collectors have called her multiple times a day, with one suggesting that she cancel her Internet service, even though she home-schools her son. They have called her relatives and neighbors, a tactic other borrowers reported.

 

After Pitts’ husband, Kirk, was diagnosed with aggressive cancer, she said, a Vanderbilt agent told her she should make the house payment her “first priority” and let medical bills go unpaid. She said the company has threatened to seize her property immediately, even though the legal process to do so would take at least several months.

 

Practices like contacting neighbors, calling repeatedly and making false threats can violate consumer-protection laws in Washington, Tennessee and other states.

 

The government has known for years about concerns that mobile-home buyers are treated unfairly. Little has been done.

 

MHI spent $4.5 million since 2003 lobbying the federal government. Those efforts have helped the company escape much scrutiny, as has Buffett’s persona as a man of the people, analysts say.

 

“There is a Teflon aspect to Warren Buffett,” said James McRitchie, who runs a widely read blog, Corporate Governance.

Personally, I never thought twice about the Warren Buffett myth until I noticed how much he pandered to the government for Wall Street bailouts. Bailouts, which clearly in retrospect, funneled enormous wealth to the super rich, while leaving everyone else out to dry.

My most popular post on the subject of Mr. Buffett was published all the way back in 2011, and titled, A Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing. Here’s the opening paragraph:

Anyone that has read these pieces for a while knows where I stand on Warren Buffett.  Namely I can’t stand him.  It has nothing to do with the fact that he has so much money.  I am not an envious person and moreover I think having wealth anywhere near his is more of a curse than a blessing.  The reason I can’t stand him is because he is a fraud.  While he may have been a great investor at one point, he is more of a great actor than anything else.  Here is one of the richest people in the world.  He sits there in Nebraska, chuckling, drinking his cherry coke and eating hamburgers in this pathetically obvious attempt to convince the masses he is “just like us.”  The term wolf in sheep’s clothing was invented for guys like this.  Like most people out there I don’t like bad guys.  The trick; however, is that the most dangerous bad guys don’t come out and tell you they are bad guys and how they are going to fleece you.  What they do is pretend they are the good guys.  Pretend that they are on the side of the little guy or working for the “collective good,” which is a preposterous statement because there is no such thing.  Human desires and notions of what is a good life are as varied as the stars in the sky.  Once we start allowing officials or rich people to define “collective good” you can be sure we are finished.

With all of that in mind, take a look at one of the pictures used in the Seattle Times article:

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The man to the left is Kevin Clayton, CEO of Clayton Homes, and the man to the right is, of course, “Uncle” Warren Buffett, clutching his characteristic ice cream pop. Take a close look at the expression on the face of Kevin Clayton. This isn’t a look of admiration, respect, or even love. It’s a look of worship, of undying cultish fervor. The only thing missing is a tongue hanging out of his mouth and a blob of drool on his tie. If you ever see me looking at anyone with this sort of expression, immediately put me out of my misery.

One thing that’s crystal clear, is there’s no doubt regarding the intelligence of Warren Buffett. We don’t need to discuss it, or express admiration for that here. On the other hand, many questions need to be asked about his supposedly ethical business practices. To me, he seems to represent the consummate personification of the saying “do as I say, not as I do.” At the end of the day, I think the secret to his continuing success is more about his acting skills than his intelligence.

As I noted on Twitter recently:

That, more than anything else, is the Oracle of Omaha’s secret weapon.

 

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Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:16 | 5963381 ukspreads
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Fuck you Warren - Must be as old as Granpa Walton

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:17 | 5963399 Beam Me Up Scotty
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Pay your taxes, Warren.  And how about you give your secretary a raise too, you greedy cocksucker??

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:33 | 5963450 Occident Mortal
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Well when he's gone he aint taking his money with him and he didn't spend that much of it.

 

He should have earned a little less and lived a little more.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:44 | 5963483 KnuckleDragger-X
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But everybody loves dear uncle Warren and you have to admit he has one of the best PR spin machines in existence.....

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:51 | 5963503 RaceToTheBottom
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Vertical Integration resulting in one path for money to flow from the poor to the pockets of Uncle Warren.....

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 12:11 | 5963557 new game
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soon we will all be able to celebrate one of the richest fucks on the face of the earth, soon...

hint, rip(not).

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 12:24 | 5963600 BurningFuld
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The biggest take away for me is that people are surprised by this. 

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 12:38 | 5963650 Not Goldman Sachs
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Oh, but think of the jobs he creates.  Part of the narrative of trickle down. Without Uncle Sugar the economy would be tits up (I have been dying to work that in at some point) and we would be "serfin" already. Now we are just on glide path to oblivian.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 13:09 | 5963753 Son of Loki
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It's not secret the ONLY way [most] people get new house loans now is thru the builder's lender who will loan money to anyone who fogs a mirror. Best yet, is many of these are now zero-down again!

 

The new home sales person who lives down the street said prob 90% to 95% of their buyers would not be able to buy the traditional way with 20% down.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 16:37 | 5964545 Muh Raf
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And of course Buffet has been exposed as a pedo in at least one book but the US prosecution service hasn't noticed this fact. And the pigs ignored the complaints of his victims. It's all very Jimmy Saville. 

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 16:27 | 5964501 Fun Facts
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Warren Buffett likes ice cream cones, Coca Cola and puppies.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 16:37 | 5964543 Infinite QE
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I can only imagine what he has stored in the multitude of sub-basements he has in the shack in Omaha. And I'm not thinking puppies.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:18 | 5963401 Dr. Richard Head
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If it was not for the bailout in 2008/09, this mother-fucker would have been naked as the tide went out on his AIG exposure alone.  Fuck these oligarchs.  Fuck them right in their ass.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:55 | 5963520 Seek_Truth
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Warren_Buffett,_Molech_worshipper,_eats_babies.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 12:22 | 5963597 seminal1
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The Berkshire Hathaway chairman and CEO gave the maximum amount allowed to a super PAC in support of Hillary Clinton running for president in 2016. 

http://www.ibtimes.com/warren-buffett-gives-money-hillary-clinton-2016-c...

 

 

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 13:23 | 5963809 marathonman
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How much money has Uncle Warren gotten for shipping crude oil via the rail company he bought because Obama blocked the Keystone XL?  I think you can guess the answer.  Warren is the worst kind of crony capitalist.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:19 | 5963404 thunderchief
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When does a greedy old man like that have enough?

When he is dead I guess.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:45 | 5963486 KnuckleDragger-X
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There is never enough and must always win at all costs....

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:43 | 5963479 williambanzai7
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Tue, 04/07/2015 - 01:37 | 5965838 blowing winter
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Start working at home with Google ! Its by-far the best mixed bag of goods I've had. Last Thursday I got a trademark new Bmw since getting a check for $6474 this - 4 weeks past. I began this 8-months ago and immediately was coming with house at least $77 per hour. I work through this connection, go.to tech marker for work detail.... www.globe-report.com

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:14 | 5963384 LawsofPhysics
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So, back to fuedal time it is...   ... "shocked" just "shocked" I tell you...

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:47 | 5963489 KnuckleDragger-X
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Great for the Lord's, not so hot for the serf's and peons....

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 16:21 | 5964482 NESD
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I am no Buffet fan but he did not put a gun to the head of the peons and make them sign the documents or make them bite off more than they could chew.  At some point peon personal responsibility enters into the equation.  They had the freedom to make poor decisions and fail.  It would appear many did.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 19:15 | 5965075 garypaul
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If you read the article you will see that people were offered one rate then switched to a higher one, the appraisals were fraudulent, etc. etc. What are you having trouble understanding?

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:15 | 5963386 Itchy and Scratchy
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D'oh! Grandpa really tricked my with his ukelele seranade!

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:19 | 5963403 Dr. Richard Head
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Becky was bathing him at the time, from what I recall. 

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:16 | 5963389 Chuck Knoblauch
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His disowned granddaughter could have told you this years ago.

My grandpa has two faces.

LOL.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 15:49 | 5964341 Bob
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Yeah, an interesting movie, too. 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0819791/

It's on netflix.  Uncle Warren is one real twisted prick.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:16 | 5963394 p00k1e
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Nah, Buffet eats Popsicle’s and smells like Aspen chips (hamster bedding). 

Warren Buffet is Americana. 

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 12:35 | 5963634 giggler321
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You know Michael Jackson liked to give some folks, kiddy ice cream in his theme park.  Not many more steps for mr buffet to reach the same height, albeit a trailer park

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:16 | 5963395 i_call_you_my_base
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"Billionaire philanthropist Warren Buffett..."

Philanthropist. Yeah, right. The media protects these fuckers like it's their job. Oh wait, it is.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:35 | 5963458 NoVa
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Nobel Peace Prize nominee ?

 

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:18 | 5963398 Itchy and Scratchy
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My personal fav is how he owes the IRS US$1b in back taxes - yet desperately wants to pay more than his secretary!

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:21 | 5963412 onewayticket2
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as long as he keeps dancing their dance, the IRS will be told to look the other way.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:22 | 5963410 doggis
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i will second that - FUCK YOU BUFFET! YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO THE GAYS!

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:21 | 5963411 Itchy and Scratchy
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Snake oil salesman made a fortune using derviatives in the credit collapse while denying using them because they were too complicated!

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:22 | 5963415 Stoploss
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rapidly depreciating homes.

Shitty credit quality...

 

Who knew?

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:23 | 5963416 Atomizer
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Warren Buffett (1962) talks about a brief stock market drop

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=REhg_bv7srM

Grandpa's sharper years 

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:24 | 5963418 Fukushima Fricassee
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Inside trading criminal , Obama supporting crony son of a bitch.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:32 | 5963446 Berspankme
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Hate this fucker and everything he stands for. Criminal. Daddy was a senator, learned to fuck the taxpayers at a young age. Fuck you and die warren you cockbreath cunt.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 12:13 | 5963565 new game
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thanks for that, should be all upvotes...

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:24 | 5963419 Itchy and Scratchy
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His legend began decades ago when he claimed to live in his marriage bungalow while driving a 12 year car  - while forgetting to mention his 20k sq ft beachfront palace in the Hamptons where he cultivated his 'young' interests! ;)

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:54 | 5963516 PTR
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In addition to buying up a real estate firm to get skim from churning mortgage properties...

 

dirty uncle warren owns car dealerships now.  I think it's around 25 or so.  Only heard anecdotal from a family member, but I'm leaning towards it being on the mark.

 

 

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:59 | 5963529 Itchy and Scratchy
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Central Bank directed sub-prime auto lending.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:24 | 5963420 praps
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Just like that tv show Undercover Boss, which portrays company managers as being surprised at finding out how difficult life is for their employess.  And handing out a few sizeable morsels to make life for a few of the worst off employees temporarily better.  Great marketing of compassionate CEO's.  That's the way to do it.  Take a lot from your employees very quietly and give a ltlle bit back very noisily.  

Same as the rich attending these big charity events.  Take a lot very quietly and hand a bit back very noisily.    

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:25 | 5963423 Dr. Engali
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Warren Buffet is a piece of human excrement who ads nothing of value to society yet he is worshiped by the masses. It just goes to show you how stupid and controlled the Merkan public has become. These fucking predators seem to live on forever.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:31 | 5963443 Dr. Richard Head
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I was exhibiting at a trade show recently and during the lull my booth neighbor and I were talking about stawks and such.  I said that I don't play that game anymore.  She claimed to follow Buffet's buy and hold strategy.  I commented on what a corporate welfare queen that fraud of a man is.  She didn't understand, so I directed her to google "Buffet AIG bailout" and get back to me.  She literally turned white while reading.  I did my good deed for that day. 

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:26 | 5963427 JustObserving
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He made billions from his inside knowledge that the Fed was about to bailout Goldman Sachs.  An expert tactician of corrupt, crony capitalism masquerading as a sage of Omaha.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:33 | 5963448 Itchy and Scratchy
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His massive score was on Burlington Northern Rail. He got the EPA and all their 'environmental' buddies to drag their feet on pipeline construction while shipments by rail exploded by 30k%! Masterful insider influence business plan while passing higher costs & risks to everyone! He is cutie 4 sure!  

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:29 | 5963432 Dazman
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Here's "An idea packaged and marketed so brilliantly" that I've been thinking for a while now - I'm defaulting on everything and F the creditors. I'm going to live outside the credit system. Already halted payments on my BMW 650 convertible - about 20 days overdue on a month already. Don't care if they repossess - you'll find me in Europe or Asia guys.

I guess this is the marketing part of that idea.

PS. Go fuck yourselves beaurocrats in Washington.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:39 | 5963461 Elliott Eldrich
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You make a very interesting argument. I wonder if there are any people knowledgeable about US bankruptcy laws who would be so kind as to point Zero Hedge readers to some resources on how to use bankruptcy laws to enrich ourselves? They create the money out of thin air in the first place, so it's really hard to imagine how it is some great sin to not repay what they created out of thin air to begin with. 

What would be the best way for someone with excellent credit and little to no debt to go about getting the largest amount of capital that could be wholly defaulted upon? Obviously student loan debt is about as bad as it gets in terms of being able to be discharged, but what about the other kinds of commonly available debt? Does anyone have any good references handy that might be able to inform someone on how to best make use of the current bankruptcy laws for personal profit?

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:47 | 5963493 Dazman
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I don't know. What I do know is that 1) I have about an 820 credit score right now and I know I'm giving that up, but I don't care, 2) I have cash and will use cash for everything from now on (actually I do use the AMEX for points but it's under my business), and 3) I'm only a permanenet resident of the US, not a citizen (I'm a citizen of Europe, which is better in some regards, and worse in others, but I haven't lived there in over 10 years).

I won't be filing bankruptcy - I don't care of they force it on my behalf (which I believe they can do)... My assets will be abroad and not tethered to my social security in any way.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:46 | 5963487 Atomizer
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Sounds as if you overleveraged yourself financially to look like a broken rich bitch. Liberalism will always come back to haunt you. 

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 12:10 | 5963545 Dazman
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Well, I have enough cash to buy the car and the other assets I "own", outright. But I did get sucked in by excessive consumption ever since moving to the US, and now I'm reversing that and going to the other extreme. I consider it my duty to contribute towards deflationary pressures - just as a FUCK YOU to central bankers and politicians. I've always been extreme in my actions, so this is kind of like cutting off my nose to spite my face - but once I get over the initial hurdle of, oh my credit sucks now I have to use cash fo everything, I'm pretty sure I'll come out smelling like roses. A few years of rough stuff for a lifetime change in habits. It's worth it.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 12:48 | 5963673 Grumbleduke
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Kinda like Cortez burning his ships after arrival, to get the proper motivation from his soldiers.

Good luck!

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 14:33 | 5964081 Dazman
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Of course I had to Google that because my history sucks. Sounds like an interesting and apropos analogy. I hope that worked out well for them lol.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:30 | 5963437 MiltonFriedmans...
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How many are aware that The POS Buffett was in an underground bunker with GS bankers on 9/11 and participated in the planning of the levy sabotage associated with Katrina. He is purely evil....

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:31 | 5963440 Herdee
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Buffet is a big backer of Obama.He makes a fortune shipping oil by rail.That's why Keystone isn't going through.He's Obama's bum buddy.He'll be sucking up to Hillary too.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:35 | 5963459 Itchy and Scratchy
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In China they would be taking this double-dealer on a one-way ride in their 'little white van.'

 

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:33 | 5963452 Elliott Eldrich
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I read this article the other day, and it made me so angry that I just about threw up. These vermin sure make a whole lot of noise when they give a penny, while quietly stealing billions every day. It's disgusting, it's despicable, it's loathsome, and ultimately it is an indictment of our entire system; a system that elevates the biggest liars, cheats, frauds and rapists to the highest echelons while crushing, cheating and then pissing upon the people who actually do the work.

 

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:35 | 5963453 reader2010
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The biggest slaveowner of the day. Fuck yeah, Savage AmeriKa!

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:37 | 5963462 orangegeek
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buffet has a huge desire for cameras - a high risk proposition for a pissed off economy

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:40 | 5963466 Ignorance is bliss
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What if they upload Buffett's brain into a computer and name him CEO of Berkshire Hathaway until eternity shuts down the show? That's so Tron, but you know they will try it.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:42 | 5963474 djsmps
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Comment from the HuffPost: i 'm sure Warren is not aware of this. He is just not that kind of person. I bet after this hits the tubes things will change and fast.

 

It's good to be Obama's pal.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:51 | 5963504 Dazman
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It's called "plausible deniability"... That's why he claims to let the CEO's have carte blanche. All he needs to say to them is - make me more fucking money you peasant - I don't care how you do it - I don't even want to know, just do it. Something bad happens... Uncle dingleberry has no idea about it, can't help responsible.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:48 | 5963491 paint it red ca...
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Not wanting to defend buffet in any way, I will say that loan shark rates, predatory lending and aggressive debt collections are, and have always been, part of the Clayton Homes business model. Berkshire hathoway purchased clayton homes with those practices well established which were the reason for the wealth generated to the prior owner and predictably why clayton homes was acquired by berkshire.

I think it an indicator of rising negative sentiment toward buffet that he gets the slum lord finger pointed at him for the present ownership of a business model that is decades old and never criticized by anyone other than the unwary victims of the modular home (the politically correct term for house trailer) industry.

As for Clayton, he sold one sleazy business model in order to enter another, he started a regional bank after selling out to berkshire.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 17:06 | 5964653 Blankenstein
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Just like Kirby vacuums and their abusive selling practices - Buffett no doubt condones this as he is always clucking about how he only invests in things he truly understands.   I used to wonder why Buffett would buy Kirby with all the horror stories I had heard ...

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:50 | 5963497 Atomizer
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Warren will discover the Pepsi Challenge. 

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:52 | 5963506 samsara
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I guess Ilargi (AutomaticEarth)'s post was pretty much on target.

Warren Buffett is Everything That’s Wrong With America

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 12:18 | 5963587 NotApplicable
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That article was a giant fail, as Ilargi seems to think that two wrongs can make a right.

Then again, so does any delusional statist.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:54 | 5963512 PGR88
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Warren Buffet has smartly been buying political protection, mostly from the Statist Left, over the past 10 years, with his cosying up to the Clintons and Obama, and his multiple pronouncements that taxes should be higher.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 12:00 | 5963523 Itchy and Scratchy
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Media spin is everything. The cold & hungry huddled masses will believe anything if it has slick packaging & widespread distribution.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:55 | 5963519 Colonel Klink
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When will this old coot die?  Not soon enough for the rest of humanity.  Same applies for Soros, Adelson, Munger, and a whole host of parasitic scumbags.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 13:36 | 5963849 Niall Of The Ni...
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Leave Adelson out of it. He made his money more-or-less honestly---and to Adelson his Jewish heritage is rather more than an excuse to shut down any criticism as anti-Semitic.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 19:07 | 5965051 Colonel Klink
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Adelson is one of the main culprits in the middle of American politics.  WTF are you even talking about.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:57 | 5963524 starman
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Co"C"k roach! 

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:57 | 5963526 DebtTheNewEquity
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Sorry, what is "crony" about any of this?  That is if you are not a communist.

 

St. Warren has all kinds of problems, but he and Clayton have housed millions of people, something this author or any of the commenters cannot say. 

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 12:07 | 5963547 Mike Honcho
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A communist doesnt have crony in their vocabulary, state and corporations are one.

 

Why are you confused about the information provided?  He uses his government connections to benefit financially.  Clayton and its lender used unethical tactics.  #1 receiver of bailout funds, as in your takes directly helped a billionaire.  But the ice cream threw you off didnt it?

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:57 | 5963527 Bear
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Oh ... he says the biggest problem with America is income disparity?

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 11:59 | 5963530 Mike Honcho
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Even his son little Howie likes handouts.  "Philanthropist" farmer getting tax subsidies for his play farm.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 12:13 | 5963564 Snoopy the Economist
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How many people are waiting to shit on his grave?

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 12:14 | 5963566 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Warren Buffett is Jabba-the-Hutt of America. He is admired just like Adolf Hitler was admired before his overthrow.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 12:14 | 5963568 Mister Delicious
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typical evil fuck billionaire...nothing new here.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 12:23 | 5963598 booboo
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But he WON the Presidential Medal of Freedom from the same guy that got a Nobel Peace Prize for doing nothing to earn it from a group of intellectuals that don't have jobs on orders from the Rothchilds who control all foreign governments that are preselected by bankers that are owned by Warren Buffet. The Circle of Jerkistanians.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 12:51 | 5963681 TeethVillage88s
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Circle Jerkistan is worth remembering

From FT

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8559c84e-d896-11e4-ba53-00144feab7de.html#ixzz...

"US society is taking on the character of a hereditary meritocracy. It is far preferable to the indolent aristocracy so rightly abhorred in Washington’s day. But in one respect it is more insidious. Those who believe they have succeeded on merit alone are often free of self-doubt. This can blind them to the perceptions of others. If 2016 is indeed to be a Clinton-Bush contest, we should expect a low turnout."

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 14:49 | 5964145 kchrisc
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"US society is taking on the character of a hereditary meritocracy."

There is a solution for hereditary meritocracy/tyranny. See solution here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_XVI_of_France#Imprisonment_and_execu...

The banksters need to repay us.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 15:32 | 5964278 TeethVillage88s
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Question do we pay for mortgage before Medical Bills?? I would think buy food, take care of health & family, keep people safe, keep electric and water running... then pay mortgage before all the Health Care bills. Some hospitals are probably on to this and if you don't have insurance they may demand payment first or refuse service.

- But 1 out of 2 that reaches 85 years old will go bankrupt probably from Health Care Bills.

"Vanderbilt agent told her she should make the house payment her “first priority” and let medical bills go unpaid."

I really want to know. Eventually most of us find ourselves in hospital. Mortgage or Hospital Bills first?

- Personally I think there is a New Generation of US Citizens which won't tolerate the Gray Hairs in Congress and Banker Fraudsters

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 15:29 | 5964266 AurorusBorealus
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That article is a complete paraphrase of Christopher Laisch´s, Revolt of the Elites, published in the 1970s.  I want a job as a journalist, so  I can just restate other people´s ideas and get a paycheck (of course, the vast majority of college professors do the same thing).

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 12:29 | 5963615 foxmuldar
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Buffett's just another rich slimeball who made his billions using insider traidng and with the help of his buddy Obama. Buffett bought a ton GS before it was bailed out.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 12:29 | 5963616 foxmuldar
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Buffett's just another rich slimeball who made his billions using insider traidng and with the help of his buddy Obama. Buffett bought a ton GS before it was bailed out.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 12:39 | 5963648 Q-Q-Q
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Soros and Buffet - separated at birth.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 12:42 | 5963657 Eahudimac
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I've always wondered how much Buffet was in on the Franklin child abuse cover-up in Omaha. No one gets as rich as powerful as Buffet without drinking the blood of freshly sacrificed children. He is one of Baal's brightest pupils. 

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 12:52 | 5963690 basho
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Thou shalt have no other false gods before me

lmao

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 12:57 | 5963709 TeethVillage88s
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Vandals Spray Paint 'Death To Higher Cla$$' On TX Houses...

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2015/04/04/vandals-leave-offensive-messages-on-p...

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 14:42 | 5964118 kchrisc
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Damn kids these days. Don't they know that it is supposed to be:

"Death to the Banksters"

Joking aside, this is exactly what the Zionists and their propagandists want, the sheeple pounding on each other, and the honest capitalists, while the banksters and their cronies "return," flee, with the loot.

The banksters need to repay us.

 

Guillotines are the people's debt collector.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 15:40 | 5964310 TeethVillage88s
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Vertically Integrated Conglomerates secured by Crony Capitalism Formed by Lobbying, Gifts, and Campaign Contributions.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 13:02 | 5963733 arrowrod
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Huh?  You can't make money reposessing trailer trash.

This is hilarious.  "We're going to pull the trailer from the foundation with chainsaws." 

Where does zerohedge get this tripe?

 

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 13:04 | 5963744 dogismycopilot
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I have never liked Buffet since I first learned of him 19 years ago. As days go by I like him less. I think he is a Wolf in Sheeps clothing

And probably a boring mother fucker to hang out with as well!

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 13:23 | 5963807 Mitch Comestein
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OKay, as much as I would like to jump on the Warren-bash bandwagon I want to focus on the article.  First, 15% interest rates sound reasonable to me for collateral that can disappear like items charged with a credit card.  Also, the article is giving the company grief about having the dealers stear customers to their lenders.  What the hell is wrong with that.  I would do it to.  If I had a lending operation I would want MY lenders to get the businss not a competitor.  Is Liberty Blitz trying to stear us to his website or to another writer?  Just saying.

 

Queue the red arrows in 5, 4, 3.....

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 17:31 | 5964738 Blankenstein
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Maybe they should be able to borrow cheaply from the Fed's discount window. Oh that's right, only the banks can and they are so credit worthy that they had to be bailed out with $700 million of taxpayer money.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 22:41 | 5965548 Blankenstein
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make that $700 billion

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 14:11 | 5964000 Eastwood
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Such a nice old man he is.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 14:34 | 5964085 kchrisc
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Going to have to add another line to my guillotine. In addition to "banksters," "pols," "crats," and "funcs," I will need to add "cronies."

The banksters need to repay us.

 

Unlike at the supermarket, the idea will be to get into the slowest line.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 14:52 | 5964157 GRDguy
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Warren Buffett, like many others rich in one generation, are simply agents (fronts) for The Great Red Dragon (Snakes In Suits). The old 1889 book explains how these fronts keep the attention away from what's really going on, which is the accumulation of title to property into a few hands. That's why their holdings go into foundations, so that the Money Power can continue to consolidate it's holdings after the agent dies, or is disposed of. That's why Balzac (before 1850) wrote something like "behind every great fortune is a great crime."  Sometimes The Dragon Wins.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 15:08 | 5964199 Brokenarrow
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"All evil deeds smell. In time they are found out. There is no hiding them forever." Inside Man

 

Look at what he owns: banks, car dealers (sub prime loans), junk food companies (processed food-cancer factories), junk food restaurants, and a host of foriegn companies that don't comply with GAAP (he makes up the numbers), and his new biz pard owns the largest booze dealer in the world that was bought with epic leverage.

 

What happened to "I love to pay taxes, my kids wont inherit my $$$/I'm giving it to charity, Bill Gates and his wife are my partners in charity, the USA is the greatest free market in the world?" What a crock of shit!

 

This old fart has Lucifer waiting for him. I wish him a speedy trip. And that fucking partner of his, Munger: Mr. Suck it up," He looks like the guy in the wheelchair in Hannibal 2. What a piece of shit.

 

Thye still try to influence public opinion to deflect public outrage. Me thinks they are a little too late.

 

 

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 15:15 | 5964215 homiegot
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Such a nice man. He eat's ice cream and drinks Coca-Cola.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 16:43 | 5964428 mastersnark
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Don't forget he is giving away all his wealth too...including the parts he gets from Clayton Homes.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 16:02 | 5964404 still kicking
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I straight HATE that old fuck with all my being.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 16:20 | 5964478 Rusputin
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A building corporation structured as a microcosm of the Western economies?

a) Unregulated competitionless production operating in a contrived protectionist market;

b) Unregulated selling agents chasing up prices and charging excessive fees, whilst ring-fencing transactions from competition;

c) Unregulated lenders giving inflated loans at unusually high interest rates and more excessive fees;

d) Unregulated debt collectors putting repayment pressure on unprotected consumers who cannot afford to pay in an environment of lowering incomes and rising prices, whilst adding more default fees;

e) Unregulated repossession agents and legal specialists who take back the valuable assets from defenceless homeowners who are then rendered homeless, losing all the money they paid in deposit, fees and interest.

Anyone see a pattern here? A lack of actual, practical, working legal regulation of corporations that deal with consumers and borrowers!

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 16:58 | 5964634 pupdog1
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I lost all respect for Buffet when he started spewing how Goldman Sach's shit doesn't stink.

Luckily, he is about three more Dilly bars and a cherry Coke away from infarction eternity.

Mon, 04/06/2015 - 18:51 | 5964994 ImYourHuckleberry
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Here's praying that Warren dies a slow and painful death from prostate cancer and it matasticises throughout his body.

Thu, 04/09/2015 - 02:01 | 5974310 onmail
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When Warren Buffet came to India he taught like this :

"All the world's Gold can be kept in a 60x60x60 yards cube, it is so small, you cannot eat gold, it is of no use. Rather buy shares and buy these for long periods as long time investment for life."

It means this : Sell the gold and buy stock market shares. Hah ha ha (and become bankrupt)

Fox preaching the chicken.

Maybe he thought that Indians (and all 3rd world ppl) are fools who would fall into his trap of selling gold to buy shares. 

Mr. Warren Buffet , you are good at selling colored water (coca cola) and made money at the cost of releasing green house gas CO2, which is killing the whole world. You should rather plan for after life now by good deeds. 

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