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The Greek Counter-Ultimatum To Europe: "We Cannot Keep ISIS Out If You Keep Bullying Us"
Greek Defense Minister: We Cannot Keep ISIS Out If EU Keeps Bullying Us
For a second time within a couple of weeks, Greek Defense Minister and leader of coalition government junior partner Independent Greeks, Panos Kammenos warned that if the European Union keeps undermining the coalition government and the country exit or is forced to exit the Euro “waves of migrants: will stream from Turkey to Europe and among them there would be ISIS “radicals.”
Speaking to THE TIMES, Kammenos said:
“The gross meddling into [Greek] domestic affairs isn’t just unheard for European standards, it’s unethical and it’s dangerous. If Greece goes, then a lot more than financial stability and the euro is at stake.”
“If Greece is expelled or forced out of the eurozone, waves of immigrants without papers, including radical elements, will stream from Turkey and head towards the heart of the West,” Kammenos told The Times.
German government coalition partners, the European Parliament President Martin Schulz and “European anonymous sources” have repeatedly and even blatantly expressed the wish that Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras gets rid of nationalist Kammenos and make a coalition with austerity-friendly To Potami and/or even PASOK.
Panos Kammenos described these statements and efforts as “bullying” committed by Brussels and Berlin in order to force Greece into “a full and complete economic surrender.”
“Europe must realize that maintaining Greece stable, the West front against the Islamic State (ISIS) is safe. But if expelled or forced out of the eurozone, waves of immigrants without papers, including radical elements will stream from Turkey, heading towards the heart of the West. If these waves of immigrants increase, then the threat of incoming extremist elements will grow not for Greece but for the whole of the West. “ (The Times via Newsit.gr)
It is not the first time, Kammenos makes similar warnings. Short before another “crucial” Eurogroup meeting, beginning of March, he warned Berlin to “flood Europe with migrants”, potentially including Syrian jihadists, if Europe fails to find a solution to the Greek debt crisis.
“If Europe leaves us in the crisis, we will flood it with migrants, and even worse for Berlin if in that wave of millions of economic migrants there will be some jihadis of the Islamic State too,” according to the Italian newspaper La Repubblica.
He went on explaining that: “If they [the Eurogroup] strike us, we will strike them. We will give to migrants from everywhere the documents they need to travel in the Schengen area, so that the human wave could go straight to Berlin.”
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That ISIS is becoming the wonder tool.....fixes everthing!!!
Except Iran.
We ISISed some folks
You have to hand it to the Greek Defense Minister - he's picked up on the only thing of importance to the EU: the imaginary threat of terrorism.
Tee heeeh. Hey, they probably believe some of that crap, too. Gotta hand it to him, might just as well have said; "Forgive the debts or go screw yourselves." Gettin' hard to keep track of who's on whose sides anymore, anywhere, let alone in the ME.
Throw the Greeks out of Europe already. Give them to the Turks, they have common great-grandfathers anyway.
The Greeks can´t do shit. With or without bullying. It just does not matter. Just ignore them fat bastards.
Might as well keep the Germans with the Italians, their deutsch men got ass raped more than enough, while their German women filled the harems of the Roman households all over the conquered territories.
There's a reason why, even at the height of their power, the Roman frontier ended on the Rhine and it wasn't because the Germans were pooftas.
There were Roman forts on the other side of the Rhine, and the Romans under Germanicus did more than just cross the river in their pursuit of Arminius.
Last time I checked the brothels in Germany were full of teens and twens from the PIIGS plus Bulgaria and Romania!
The PIIGS and BR have nothing on those hot little Uke girls that will be filling the brothels real soon.
The Ruskis will come to you too you little sod.
Oh I forgot!!
Here is one that will be after your ass.
Just don't send in the JV team, we know how bad they can be.
The Greek Defense Minister plays Qaddafi games telling everybody about his fight with Al Qaeda. We know it did not work for Qaddafi since Al Qaeda was a CIA instrument to get rid from fools like Qaddafi.
I bet that, like with the WW 2, the World Banking Mafia is digging its own grave. The USA under zionist control is totally fucked up its domestic and geopolitical priorities.
A new wrinkle in state-to-state extortion, "Keep the funds flowing to us or the terrrrists won't linger in Greece enjoying our wonderful welfare system!"
Spoken by a guy supposedly defending Greece...lol.
How much does a bullet cost over there? ;-)
The creature eventually turns on the villagers. This should be fun.
The more I see these guys grand-standing, the more I realize who is in a position of strength.
Buhbye Greece. Good luck with those Bitcoin backed Drachmas.
They will fund ISIS...to get more aid. IMF might reward them
Leech fuckers.
RIPS
obama doesnt see the problem.
A problem is not a problem and doesn't become a problem until somebody admits it's a problem.
"Denial" is not a river in Egypt
Except Iran.
I heard Israel is working on that fix.
Well things are getting interesting again. Grab your popcorn and get ready to be entertained.
Germany and Belgium better take a crash course in poker playing if they
want to get the Greeks to fold. This game is just getting started.
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The guillotines grow hungrier by the day...
Oh bullshit, Europe has become a geriatric petting-zoo. Why is this such a big surprise? Greeks are Greeks, they finally found their ultimate leverage. If Europe had any balls they'd start naval reposession of Greece's outerlying islands...fat chance.
You can't keep 'em out if they stop bullying you, either
“waves of migrants: will stream from Turkey to Europe and among them there would be ISIS “radicals.” ... They already do
I logged in just to post this. It will change nothing - our politicians already fly them in, millions per year, and give them money and priority housing. And then they act all "shocked" when the demands for sharia start...
But the ISIS guys already have EU passports, they left Europe to train in USA camps. THey dont need to go through Greece. They can fly in first class.
They have their own airline too - Central Islam Airways.
I C what you did there.
Tsapass and ViralFukus will return from Russia with arms for ISIS.
You know how in college you got drunk with with your friends and talked about how you'd run the government? It was all misguided, uninformed, stupid, and juvenile. Imagine if you and your drunk bozo friends were in charge of a country. That's Greece.
Imagine if the Greek politicians actually did what the voters want. Thats whats going on here. If the Greeks leave the EU then they will be the ultimate "Anti-politicians".
The Princton study discussed on ZH showed that when 80% of voters were onside on any issue the US politicians only voted for it 43% of the time. Data was 1981 to 2002, so what is it this time? 20%?? Greek Pols have an opprtunity to show true Democracy, not Oligarchy, and give the people what they are demanding.
"You know how in college you got drunk with with your friends and talked about how you'd run the government? It was all misguided, uninformed, stupid, and juvenile. Imagine if you and your drunk bozo friends were in charge of a country. That's Greece. "
Ok, I give up: which countries are NOT being run by misguided, uninformed, stupid, juvenille, drunk bozo friends of which half have all matiriculated from about two dozen or so of the colleges and/or investment banks?
Iceland?
I admire Switzerland (in great contrast to Greece).
This is the only country I know, where the majority of people are able to act responsible and also vote responsible. These people knows that it is not enough only to ask government for any social benefits, they know that the country (their people) must also EARN the money.
Do you know some other country where voters says:
1. NO to minimum wage increase
2. NO adding extra 1 week of vacation
.....
What about China? So far they have played an excellent game. In the last 20 years, they moved from a colonial dumpster into a world superpower.
China did good! Looking forward towards eating dimsums for brunch.
Soap Opera Digest: Can this relationship be saved?
No, nein, nyet, forgetaboutit.
Plus they won't be able to keep the transgendered in!
Ho hum. Typical liberal threats. "GIVE US THE MONEY OR [insert extortive excuse]!!!!" They're pulling the same crap in the USA with the hellish ghettos. Americans better rebuild and invest and throw money at our boondoggles or the cities with BURN!!! Yawn.
I can just see ISIS attacking and destroying Greek artifacts.
sledge hammering the acropolis. fuck islam
[now that I've read your comment I should also up vote you for that.] lol
That's because even the richest oligarch antiquity hoarder couldn't hide away the whole Acropolis. Anyway, it is good business practice to destroy antiquities. The value of the parts is greater than the value of the whole. Also the Central Islam Airways does not have access to the largest cargo aircraft.
The ISIS thing is so overdone it is becoming downright comical.
I don't remember hearing about a huge contingent of them there in Turkey causing bedlam.
the single largest voting block in the EU is Muslims, the EU is a non-state, a sovereignty denial and involuntary debt conscription zone, they're already asserting themselves with debt everywhere they reside.
Huh? So ISIS = EU Muslims? Uh, that would be no.
The demonization of all Muslims seems to be the driving force behind the "threat" of ISIS. Gee, I wonder why?
ISIS
Israeli Security Intelligence Services = Mossad
ISIL
Israeli Security Intelligence Legion = Dumb fucks called up by their dual Israeli Citizenship because they are useful stooges. Better them dead on the front line than your real forces.
Point being ISIS is about as Muslim as a Kosher Dill pickle with a Bagel and smoked salmon. Want to stop the attacks, stop funding it with foreign aid to Israel. Besides the 'Ra' in Is Ra El is dead, fat fuck ate himself to death.
What would Balkan (Beat Box) do?
I have nothing against Muslims. As long as they stay in their own countries. They represent a social and demographic disaster for Europe.
ISIS is 'Fast and Furious' transferred to the Middle East.
“If they [the Eurogroup] strike us, we will strike them. We will give to migrants from everywhere the documents they need to travel in the Schengen area, so that the human wave could go straight to Berlin.”
Yeah, that's how you get tossed out of Schengen. How dumb do you have to be to not figure that out? Can't quite see enough ahead to determine the step that happens after one misbehaves. Greece is a country run by children.
The Syriza govt was backed by ISIS's backers, their agenda has always been the same, mass immigration, Muslim invasion and public debt to finance it, this is old news, a broken record, the zionist game plan for the last 10,000 years bribe a nation into looting itself to death.
It is a Zionist gameplan to increase muslim population of Europe?
The coke habit must be costing a lot of cash.
"It is a Zionist gameplan to increase muslim population of Europe?"
Yes. White Christian society has always been seen as the main enemy by Jews. Also Muslims will make life uncomfortable for some of Europe's Jews thereby encouraging them to move to Israel.
Q1: Are these clowns looking for a job on the Comedy Channel as their next gig? Or is it as talking heads on Fox?
Q2: How long do they have to be "in Gov't", before they can collect Gov Pensions as ex-ploticians*.
* No, "pLOticians" it's not a dyslexic typo.
Yes, we do get that the Trojan Horse was a Greek thing. But the Greeks will have to get the CIA's permission to use their army.
He says it like that is something the ZWO would want to prevent.........LOL
+100
They do have a real point though; allowing a failed state right there in Europe itself profoundly increases the danger of radicalization and the ability of unsavory ideologues to set up camp on the doorstep of their oppressors. Of course, the real solution is to default and institute a new Drachma, not beg Yurop for concessions that will never come.
So Germany will have to invade for real...again.
Probably not a problem actually.
Start up the panzers!
I'd opt for the ISIS radicals over banksters any day.
Fool.
At least bankers want you to live to pay.
Muzzies dream of a suicide death that also kills you.
Make the Muzzie choice and that "any day" is your last day.
Greece has a mjor illegal immigration problem for several reasons to include the Dublin Treaty - which forces illegals back to the port of entry which is almost always Greece, the economic crisis, and of course it's geographic position. The never ending wars in the middle east is a massive cause of the influx of refugees to Greece and Europe.
Kammenos, aside from the ISIS fear mongering, is right. The illegal problem is a European wide problem given the fact that nearly all illegal immigrants enter Europe from Greece. Patroling the 11th longest coastline in the world and having a financially sound military/police/judicial/detention center to handle this porblem requires $.
If Europe wants to destroy Greece to prove a point only to bailout it's banks and central banks, then this does become their problem, moreso than it already is
The Dublin Treaty is almost never enforced. Human rights, you know.
Greece is doing this already
Langley and Glilot Junction's latest boogeyman being used again.
"Boo! Pay attention to that rabbit over there not us murders and thieves over here."
The banksters need to repay us.
A friend mentioned last night that this weekend's roll out of the list of Iraqi persons supposedly behind ISIS is right on track, as they can't stage the next 9/11 until they have people and personalities attached. Reminiscent on how they personified "Al Qaeda" with Bin Laden before 9/11. It's coming...
Interesting new take on the time-honored tradition of blackmail.
" The never ending wars in the middle east is a massive cause of the influx of refugees to Greece and Europe " Also reason for emergence of ISIS. Seems Bush/Cheney/Neocon crusade is having unintentional consequences. What will be consequence of Obama/Nuland/Neocon initiatives in Ukraine ?
Bush/Cheney removed the murdering Hussein. Country was making real progress when they left office.
Obammie has the real muslim belief and removed US stabilizing forces. Obammie got exactly what he wanted.
"Country was making real progress when they (Bush/Cheney) left office."
True. Apart from the half million killed, destroyed infrastructure and a three-way civil war Bush/Cheney did Iraq a great favor.
Tyler should ban that dumbfuck on grounds of stupidity alone. He might be the most ignorant poster in the history of ZH, and that's saying something.
The Wolfowitz Doctrine is destablizing and destroying the entire MENA area and setting up the stage for WWIII. Yeah, just fuckan great progress.
Where the white women at?
The Rhine was frozen decades ago. Greece is already allowing the hordes move about without resistance.
The Greek chicken has come home to roost. Gets more ridiculous every day.
News for Greece.
There is millions here in Europe already.
And I mean wannabe terrorists who will slit our throats on the kick off whistle.
100,000 + already in Britain.
Many terrorist traiined and coming in posing as refugees and asylum seekers.
It can't get much worse - saying that the French are in a deadly situation.
I would guess worse.
And not only that. When you visit, and we see you're from the EU, we will serve you unleavened bread.
I don't understand this threat. Europe is flooded with migrants anyway and the Court of Human 'Rights' won't allow any of them to be deported.
Empty threat.
Somebody buy that man a U Boat.
I'm think that, if Russia puts that slightly-burn-damaged used sub up for sale on eBay, I couldn't afford it, but maybe Rupert could, and it would be just the thing for him to visit his worldwide media empire and pop in on various offices unexpectedly. And, en route, well, there's NO PARTIES like SUB PARTIES! :-)
Based upon that traitorous extortionist response from the failed state named Greece, I would send in the panzers and put the Greeks out of our misery.
i think they meant they won't be able to stop 'golden dawn' from taking over greece if they don't get more money.
this made me think of when the summer camp counselors took all us campers on a 'snipe hunt'.. if the kids all of a sudden get hep to the big lie but play along, they can make the counselors either a) follow their lead or b) admit it's all b.s.
Isn't ISIS Sunni? Is Greece Sunni, or Shiite, or Greek Orthodox, or Roman Catholic, or what?
Good thing they will keep passing thru and Not Stop In Greece... Oh wait..