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Marketwide Stop Hunt Over As Algos Realize Cushing Close To Overflowing

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"We felt a great disturbance in The Farce, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. We fear something terrible has happened in Cushing."

 

The Dow has been fully CYNK'd

 

The stop-hunts will continue...

 

until everyone realizes...

 

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Wed, 04/08/2015 - 10:55 | 5970692 FieldingMellish
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You would have to be a lunatic to hold PMs and any commodity now.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 10:57 | 5970702 CrimsonAvenger
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You would have to be a lunatic NOT to hold PMs at this stage in the game.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:19 | 5970827 FieldingMellish
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Look up the definition of insanity. That is what is happening in the markets now.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:26 | 5970879 DavidC
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Someone down voted you?! Uh?!

DavidC

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:36 | 5970944 FieldingMellish
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Probably Jim Sinclair. Everyone is waiting for TRX to go under before declaring the bear market dead.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 10:59 | 5970703 TruthInSunshine
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I'm starting a company that pays people to store crude oil in their swimming pools.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:05 | 5970756 Winston Churchill
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Most of my clients are leaving for the summer.

Thats a lot of vacant pools, do you supply liners ?

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:12 | 5970783 ukspreads
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Trade what you see, not what you think (especially what a lot of lunatics here think)

Oil has bottomed and the medium term trend is now up... So BTFDips.. Obviously, all those that know better than to trade with the trend may just downvote as usual as well as losing their socks

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:19 | 5970831 mayhem_korner
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Some of us aren't traders.  "Trend" is an illusory term - like blackjack players claiming a "hot" table.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:28 | 5970886 DavidC
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Certainly true so far this year - take a look at the Dax since the middle of March.

DavidC

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:29 | 5970894 ukspreads
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My trading account balance has gone up on the back of buying the dips in oil, or is that also illusory?

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:36 | 5970938 TruthInSunshine
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ukspreads - don't "trade'" but BE the dip.

Like Zen.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:43 | 5970997 ukspreads
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Or as Bruce Lee put it - Don't think - Feeeewwwl

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 12:19 | 5971210 maskone909
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after studying years of paul krugmans bar napkin notes.  i have come to the conclusion that the drillers should simply pump the oil out of- and back into the ground.  only they should sell it right before they put it into the ground.  where is my fucking nobel prize.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 12:33 | 5971275 ParkAveFlasher
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I just heard a window break...I think an economist just got his wings!

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 13:33 | 5971598 pakled
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I just heard a window break...I think an economist just got his wings!

 

That's actually pretty funny.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:48 | 5971026 mayhem_korner
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My trading account balance has gone up on the back of buying the dips in oil, or is that also illusory?

 

Irrelevant until you close your final trade.  Including the store of purchasing power into which you transfer that final balance. 

But your smart, so you'll figure that out.  Oh, wait...

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 12:28 | 5971249 ukspreads
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Smarter than you sucker - It's "you're" = you are

 

Your means yours

 

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 12:37 | 5971295 Doubleguns
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Now we know, you are an English teacher not a trader. 

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 12:49 | 5971371 ukspreads
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Not at all, all it really means is I went to school and learned something

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:45 | 5972956 nailgunnin4you
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Your a faggot

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 18:24 | 5973055 ukspreads
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Where I come from dog's breath, that means A ball or roll of seasoned chopped liver, baked or fried... Hardly relevant, but then neither are you really

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 18:35 | 5973135 nailgunnin4you
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Where I come from it means spellchecking gay cunt oil oracle, relevancy is subjective, your a faggot.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 18:42 | 5973157 ukspreads
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Where you come from, literacy also appears irrelevant - That would be You're.....  "Dogs breath"

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 19:01 | 5973213 nailgunnin4you
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You're sarc detector is broken, my apologies faggot.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 19:20 | 5973271 ukspreads
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On the contrary, I'm just playing with you... Your mummy will be calling you for bed soon, so I'll say goodnight dog's breath

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 22:24 | 5973829 nailgunnin4you
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You're mummy*

Thu, 04/09/2015 - 03:49 | 5974388 ukspreads
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Zzzzz

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 19:01 | 5973212 mayhem_korner
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Smarter than you sucker

 

Thanks.  Didn't realize I was conversing with a 9 year old.  No doubt you are the incarnation of Einstein.  But those that have been around ZH for more than 22 weeks would probably not put their chips on your square, Jethro.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 19:23 | 5973278 ukspreads
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You don't realise anything and assume way too much... In fact you're one of the most least smart people I've yet to come across on here..

 

 

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 19:30 | 5973313 mayhem_korner
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Thanks.  I love being lectured by traders that make less than I pay in taxes.

Thu, 04/09/2015 - 03:50 | 5974389 ukspreads
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Zzzzz (Yawn)

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 13:42 | 5971656 Smiddywesson
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"Irrelevant until you close your final trade."

 

That's a common misconception among traders, and a bit lit saying Godzilla isn't eating Tokyo if I close my eyes and can't see him.  Your net worth is what it is at any given second, whether you close that trade or not.  If you are sitting on a million dollar loser, you just lost a million bucks whether you close the trade or not.  Reality doesn't care about your intentions.  It works in reverse too, if you holding an open trade with a million dollars of profit in it, you are up a million dollars.  Protecting it or not protecting it, doesn't change that reality. 

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 14:03 | 5971792 ukspreads
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Smiddy, you are the voice of reason and on a roll my friend

 

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 13:33 | 5971575 Smiddywesson
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I believe it would be more precise to say "trend" is a subjective term, a qualitative assessment of whether you can make money from a given amount of price movement relative to your time frame, given the existing noise or chop.

 

There is nothing illusory about price movement, that's as real as it gets.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 13:40 | 5971644 ukspreads
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Joined up thinking is plain too much for some folks Smiddy. Nice explanation !

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 19:21 | 5973272 mayhem_korner
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You sir, are a lightweight.  Happy trading.  Assume you will show up on your 'up days' only, proclaiming from the hilltops about just how much you've "made". 

Does the car dealership accept barrels of oil for that Acura you're eyeing?  I wonder...

Thu, 04/09/2015 - 03:54 | 5974393 ukspreads
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You force me to repeat myself,

"You don't realise anything and assume way too much... In fact you're one of the most least smart people I've yet to come across on here.."

Yet you prove the statement time and time again

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 19:17 | 5973260 mayhem_korner
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Smiddy...you used to be smarter than this.  Prices are neither rising or falling - they either have risen, or have fallen.  This is true over every time horizon - nano-second or 20-year view.  Any claim that one can infer future moves in prices by extrapolation of prior moves is pure speculation (or manipulation).  And if you are speculating, then you have moved your holdings away from its default store of value.  Once you do that, your transient gains/losses are irrelevant until the position is closed.   

Let me know if you need an advanced course in this - happy to point you to some of my work.

Thu, 04/09/2015 - 03:55 | 5974394 ukspreads
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What a cunt !

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:22 | 5970845 astoriajoe
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lol.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 12:11 | 5971163 Smiddywesson
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Correct, no matter what happens, trading is about making money, not predictions.

 

I find it ironic that so many people come here day to day to discuss how the markets are not markets, and then voice their beliefs with the flimsiest excuses to take a trade, reality.  These markets laugh at reality.  If you see it, trade it.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 13:22 | 5971542 ukspreads
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Good call Smiddy - Plenty of peeps here to voice an opinion, not so many with the guts to trade one

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 13:37 | 5971622 pakled
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Guts indeed. I'm about to put on a big position and thus scrounging around for any spare scrap of guts to be found.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 19:28 | 5973304 mayhem_korner
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Many here do not have a trader's mentality, Jethro.  Trying to monetize market movements - which is what trading is - is a fool's errand.  You seem to fancy yourself a good market-timer, so knock yourself out.  Just don't pretend trading is something that it's not.

Thu, 04/09/2015 - 03:58 | 5974399 ukspreads
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Were you bullied at school and does your own mummy hate you

Thu, 04/09/2015 - 08:49 | 5974770 mayhem_korner
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Silly me.  I thought real trolls weren't allowed to have the Unknown Comic avatar.  I'm thinking you might be Flakmeister's twin sister.

Thu, 04/09/2015 - 09:33 | 5974904 ukspreads
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People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones is to People who aren't very bright, shouldn't think too much or make assumptions.....

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 18:52 | 5973192 thecrud
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I heard that at 80 70 60 50

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:17 | 5970815 db51
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I'm in.....can hold approximately 42,000 gallons.   

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:28 | 5970885 tmosley
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That's nothing, I'm starting a company in Switzerland where people pay me to store crude oil in their swimming pools.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:49 | 5971031 froze25
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California has all those empty reservoirs.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 13:37 | 5971624 Arnold
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nice.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:51 | 5971046 SilvertonguedAngel
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Water and oil don't mix so we could fill our aquifers as they rapidly deplete with crude. Should be easy to separate later.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 12:58 | 5971422 actionjacksonbrownie
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Let me know when you start storing diesel fuel. You don't even need to supply the liner*.

 

*my present liner has a slight leak...

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 10:59 | 5970723 Quinvarius
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You'd be a lunatic not to hold gold.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:02 | 5970732 1000yrdstare
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Do we have enough yet to sustain the MIC in a long drawn out world war?

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:12 | 5970791 NotApplicable
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Only question is, just how long will it take to destroy all of the refineries?

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 18:49 | 5973183 thecrud
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About an hour the one in Torrance California.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 19:38 | 5973338 mayhem_korner
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Depends on what you use for an accelerant.  Oh, wait...

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:02 | 5970735 1000yrdstare
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Dup

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:32 | 5970909 blowing winter
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I'm making over $7k a month working part time. I kept hearing other people tell me how much money they can make online so I decided to look into it. Well, it was all true and has totally changed my life. This is what I do... www.globe-report.com

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 10:58 | 5970713 SheepDog-One
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LOL full retard, all the time.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 10:59 | 5970714 NoWayJose
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Wanna bet that Goldman is already positioned - BEFORE - they release - THEIR - numbers for Cushing storage?

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:03 | 5970741 TruthInSunshine
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*BREAKING NEWS*

--Bill Dudley choked this morning on bankster cock during bukkake session and had to have emergency tracheaotomy.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:05 | 5970744 wrs1
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Gold dropping like a rock.................

 

Cushing storage barely increased, the big increase was on the Gulf Coast and that was all imports but there were also 26mmbbl of refined product exported from the US.  

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:03 | 5970746 mastersnark
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Cheap oil means more money to spend on stocks, doncha know?

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:06 | 5970758 Bell's 2 hearted
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has anyone started a pool yet for date that cushing inventory full?

 

i'll pick may 29th ... if not taken

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 15:30 | 5972342 Toronto Kid
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June 1st.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 18:47 | 5973179 thecrud
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Let me play, June 14th Flag Day.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:10 | 5970779 sidiji
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who cares...more oil cheaper gas for me...do i give a fuck about redneck texan oil workers? no.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:16 | 5970807 SheepDog-One
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Right, sounds like a bankster problem to me.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:51 | 5971045 Arnold
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Must take delivery.

Say.... don't we have some empty Gold Vaults sitting around?

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:14 | 5970797 mayhem_korner
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"We felt a great disturbance in The Farce, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. We fear something terrible has happened in Cushing."

 

Didn't Peter Cushing issue the order to blow up Alderaan?

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:17 | 5970799 TruthInSunshine
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Mad world created by CBS, bitchez.

We'll all be saved by the next Repocratic or Demoblican POTUS in 2016.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:14 | 5970800 LawsofPhysics
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Ask yourself a simple question; does or does not oil have any real value in modern society?

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:16 | 5970806 Solio
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Whatever; you are a lunatic, but it's not your fault.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:20 | 5970840 ukspreads
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Fair enough, but then you accept if you're short then you are a loser and it is all your fault

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:49 | 5971030 FPearl602
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Everyone is making a fortune on the long side of the S&P but since I am a dinosaur, I can't bring myself to buy into the mo-mo story with valuations so fubar...

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 11:55 | 5971072 Blopper
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In the future, market exchanges will operate without the involvement of UHFT market makers.

Any market that is known to be operated by UHFT market makers will be shunned by everyone.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 13:41 | 5971651 Arnold
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You do want to be part of the team, don't you?

--SkyNet

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 18:56 | 5973204 thecrud
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Oil is always up until it is not. And all any of you have to do is ask anyone in any oil field who has been around for awhile.

 

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 19:05 | 5973220 thecrud
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Impossible to stop loss if there are no buyers.

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