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USA Today: U.S. Government Tracked Billions of American Phone Calls BEFORE 9/11
USA Today reports:
The U.S. government started keeping secret records of Americans’ international telephone calls nearly a decade before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, harvesting billions of calls in a program that provided a blueprint for the far broader National Security Agency surveillance that followed.
For more than two decades, the Justice Department and the Drug Enforcement Administration amassed logs of virtually all telephone calls from the USA to as many as 116 countries linked to drug trafficking, current and former officials involved with the operation said.
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The similarities between the NSA program and the DEA operation established a decade earlier are striking – too much so to have been a coincidence, people familiar with the programs said. Former NSA general counsel Stewart Baker said, “It’s very hard to see (the DEA operation) as anything other than the precursor” to the NSA’s terrorist surveillance.
Both operations relied on an expansive interpretation of the word “relevant,” for example — one that allowed the government to collect vast amounts of information on the premise that some tiny fraction of it would be useful to investigators. Both used similar internal safeguards, requiring analysts to certify that they had “reasonable articulable suspicion” – a comparatively low legal threshold – that a phone number was linked to a drug or intelligence case before they could query the records.
“The foundation of the NSA program was a mirror image of what we were doing,” said a former Justice Department official who helped oversee the surveillance. That official said he and others briefed NSA lawyers several times on the particulars of their surveillance program. Two former DEA officials also said the NSA had been briefed on the operation. The NSA declined to comment.
This is not the only time that the Drug Enforcement Administration has been at the center of U.S. spying. Edward Snowden revealed that the DEA “launders” information gained through mass surveillance by the NSA … and then forwards it to other government agencies to use to prosecute Americans … all the while lying about the source of the information.
In fact, widespread spying on Americans began before 9/11 (confirmed here, here, here, here, here, here and here).
And the government tapped the 9/11 hijackers’ phones, and heard the 9/11 hijackers’ plans from their own mouths. But that’s okay … spying on Americans never had anything to do with stopping terrorists.
Indeed, the entire "war on terror" started prior to 9/11. That doesn't have much to do with stopping terrorists, either.
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The hypocracy is their big issue in that it is getting very hard to ignore these days. Spying on everyone. While corruption runs rampent and unchecked. Ya we noticed. The only ones that have not spotted the complete hypocracy of it all are the hypocrates. The double standard crowd. The shoe is on the other foot now. People are asking for real proof.
The name calling and sidestepping are working against them now. A real conversation is taking place. The grown ups are coming.
These silly games dont fly with the grown ups. Answer the questions punk or STFU! The honest folks aint hiding from the truth they are searching for it and will find it too. It was right there all big and ugly the whole time. All we had to do was look and point it out.
You have to wonder who's behind this surveillance and why. Let's say you're part of the the Black Nobility that's secretly running the world using your vast army of Masonic, Zionist and Jesuit agents.
Your worse nightmare are healthy, courageous and rebellious people who are aware of and have avoided your disabling and dumbing-down poisoning agenda and who investigate your theft and deception scams and seek to remove your power and ill-gotten riches.
So you want to know everything that's being talked about and written to track these rebels and prevent your removal from power.
You're obsessed with control because you're always insecure knowing that the masses could remove you at any time if you're ever discovered. So you seek to control the entire world with your NWO agenda.
You seek to know it all and continue to control it all because you know healthy, courageous rebels somewhere are plotting your removal or worse.
US government "DID" 911!!!
So that's how they won the "war on drugs". No doubt will have the same success with the "war on terror".
And to think all those years before 9/11 they told me I was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia disorder, always worried about them spying on me - and whaddya know? By golly...I was right all along.
Netwerk @MinPres is er inmiddels achter dat 'Europees bankentoezicht', 'hogere buffers', 'wettelijke verankering van de zorgplicht', 'de bankierseed' en 'bonuswetgeving' niet past in het script van netwerk Juncker.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-08/usa-today-us-government-tracked...
De 3e SpinozaGolf zal de huidige structuren van de mondiale financiële wereld gigantisch veranderen. Immers het verpanden van activiteiten van de echte economie door middel van het witwassen van virtueel geld van de centrale banken, zal binnenkort worden bezien als een 'criminele activiteit' die niet past in het systeem 'Leven en Laten Leven'.
http://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/chistenunie-wijzig-grondwet-om-anti-...
De ChistenUnie denkt de 3e SpinozaGolf te kunnen versnellen door anti-democratische partijen te verbieden. Indien de rechter die mogelijkheid krijgt dan moet het direct de VVD, PvdA en CDA afschaffen, omdat ze nog steeds toestaat dat het volk geen inzicht mag krijgen hoe het SCHULD=H00P-principe gehele rechtstaten corrumpeert.
http://nos.nl/artikel/2029288-kamer-voelt-dijsselbloem-aan-de-tand-over-...
Natuurlijk kan minister Dijsselbloem één en ander vandaag nog rechtzetten en anders ...
You jest, but don't you think it a bit of irony when in fact all those "the government is watching us" tin foil haters had been correct all this time? The even better joke is that the public still doesn't really believe it, as in, they don't care. Keep shooting unarmed black dudes, and its all good. Maybe this is exactly what Nazi Germany felt like. Gassing Jews? Fine, as long as it ain't me.
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What is truth? When none of your sources can be trusted, what can you know? Nothing, but that they cannot be trusted.
They might monitor all the calls, but why do you expect them to be capable enough to separate the wheat from the chafe? Why do you respect or trust them? Because they hold a government office? They have lots of information, but no guide, nor personal intellect to its connectivity.
Worse, you or the sheeple might actually trust them to report the true content, when it's apparent that the police, federal and lesser, routinely lie, plant evidence or throw down guns.
Who protects us from our protectors' lies and malfeasances? There is no free lunch. There is no free protection. There is no good surveillance. There was a Constitution. There was a dream of honest government. The price of your trust is your freedom. To think is to go beyond doubt to their rejection.
I still would not trade republicans and democrats for anything else, And sanity always was and always will be right down the middle.
The further right or left you go the longer it takes to recover every time.
That's a one dimensional world. Right or left. How about up and down. Add forward and backward and then a hundred other dimensions. Where's sanity then? Where's the middle? Compromise in the middle is the solution of the non-thinker.
The Founding Fathers Tried to Warn Us About the Threat From a Two-Party System
There hasn't been a real third party since the 1890s, and all of those parties had a central theme, stopping private Bankers from controlling the issuance of our currency and preventing them from controlling Washington DC. Now they run both parties and the Media, thus we are screwed!
I think Shitgum is signaling NSA that he would make a reliable Camp Kapo.
And of course all this time terrorists and drug dealers have just been chatting away long distance.
Yup:
Found it.www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcHvAfMYVhs
And btw when you agree that obama and his ilk are bad and can't be trusted then why do you site their administration as a source for the claim that Israel is spying and scooping up info on America at an alarming rate when that can't be trusted as accurate?
But you still make the claim! Why?
john oliver / snowden. (dick pics)
priceless and fascinating,
not to mention curious.
theater, comedy, political satire
and education rolled into one
performance presentation. gorilla
comedy crossing cold war empire oligarch
banking divides? a grand distraction
from the global slave camp ideology?
what the hell is happening?
somehow, no one mentioned
boosy allen, contractor.
The Church commission documented this back to the invention of the telephone, continuous through Hoover, COINTELPRO, the CIA monitoring all the phones on SNETCO 67-70 & Echelon. Snowden confirms that all conspiracies are true, and there is worse you don't know about.
The question becomes. If so, what are they doing with that information? Why aren't people "disappearing"? How long is the end game, and if it is super long, then why do they even care about us now?
IF you are to believe they are tracking everyone for some purpose, then you would have to expect that the purpose as to their techniques would be a short term game. Right? I mean, lets suppose they started the mind controll stuff in the late 50's, got caught in the 70's (no one really did anything), and after the 80's ramped it up to the max. That's now 60+ years. Now what?
the good old days.
Like I said above, the link to your alarming and terrifying about Israel spying was an allegation by Susan rice and obama. It doesn't prove like you suggest it does. Same with your links to raw story and the propublica article which happens to be a soros outlet. All the articles says alleges or believes but does not PROVE IT. This is what I mean.
And I welcome your articles probably more than you look forward to mine. But please don't let me stop you.
Obama and his advisors are idiots and tyrants.
But do you deny that Israeli companies hoover up all of the U.S. data through their equipment? And have been doing so for years and years? And see this.
Or that Israelis were spying on the 9/11 hijackers within America before 9/11. See this, this, this, this and this.
Or that the NSA voluntarily shares the raw data it collects on American citizens with Israel. Or that this includes raw data on U.S. government officials.
Or that leaked NSA documents show that U.S. intelligence officials are concerned that the NSA may be putting Israel’s security needs ahead of America’s?
Lets stick to this story not change the subject to Obama Republicans were running the show here.
Bush was HORRIBLE and CRIMINAL ... but:
For purposes of security info yes. The debate is how much and what's acceptable. My beef is your conclusions are meant to sow distrust where there is another explanation and history that you seem to conveiniently leave out.
You source a lot of info but with all that you post you leave out other info that you should know ad that I have asked about that draws my criticism. That and you use the avatar that you do while being deceitful.
If you haven't learned already, that's my beef with you.
Mmmmmkaaaay!
Sir,
Who is sowing distrust ... corrupt government officials or reporters who expose their wrongdoing?
Hint #1: Lack of Trust – Caused by INSTITUTIONAL CORRUPTION – Is Killing the Economy
Hint #2: Authoritarian Regimes Treat Reporters Like Terrorists
Until there is a sense of honor amoung men; there can be no trust. One comes before two. Milestones
Sir, we know that governments lie and that there are many sides inside every government.
However it is the role of responsible journalists to accurately report the facts regarding the actions of our goverent but not to make accusations about things that don't dupport the specific claims.
Kind of like when the media touts the "hands up don't shoot" meme to promote an agenda of white cops execute unarmed black kids as a standard practice. All evidence showed otherwise but the media pushed an agenda.
The cop in SC is hands down guilty unless new evidence comes to light and even then I can't see any situation that could make that true.
But you are like the MSM promoting an agenda to support things that didn't happen the way you report it and the people you report or don't report about.
Just to take up one point, and this should be concerning to you, in regards to the SC cop.
Think about this. Had the video not become public, what would have been the outcome? Think of how nonchalant (allegedly) that cop was in the radio report and the (allegedly) planting of the taser. It should be chilling to consider that perhaps all your opinions regarding the other cop shootings (see Ferguson, etc...) are maybe not as black and white as presupposed. Perhaps the whole "hands up, don't shoot" people might be onto something with the, I don't know, "coincidence" of black dudes getting mugged on by the police at rates much higher in proportion to their population. Especially considering whites do typically conduct crimes at similiar rates and make up a much greater percentage of the population. I think the real trouble is that the whole "don't tread on me" crowd never trusted the government, unless it involved the police. Now they are finally waking up to the fact, yes, maybe, blacks are being victimized as allowed by said group. That yes, maybe, we shouldn't be allowing this, because the ulitmate end game = cops shooting the "don't tread on me" sorts. These events are coalescing towards the worst case scenario for tbtp. A merger of the "radical" left and right. This is what leads astroturfing morons such as yourself to become even more transparent.
What It MEANS To Be An American
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"And the government tapped the 9/11 hijackers’ phones..."
Whoa, wait a minute there GW, that isn't gonna go over too well at all with some of your more rabid nutcase readers.
Let me help you out of this mess, maybe the calls recorded were just simulated, more state of the art voice-to-skull recognition software the CIA already has of known terrrrist types and the listeners were actually NSA holograms produced on Halliburton's Way-Back Projector ;-)
Rabid nutcase here...and that's Mr. Nuts to you. Close, but no dice, no cigar, and no soup for you.
lol...ok "Mr.Nuts" how do you square jet engines laying on sidewalks with "Truthers" yakking about hologram jetliners? What about voice recognition software (which was also a "highpoint" of Trutherism) to try and deny what was happening on the planes?
That shit was never gonna work out logically upon just a modicum of inspection, there was crew on the planes who WERE NOT SUPPOSED to be there, last minute stuff, no one or no thing can "plan" for that or the inflections & mannerisms of the voices that only someone who knows them would know.
Yet, "Truther's" wanted to believe that bullshit so bad you allowed me (and others) to be junked because of idiots when the obvious was pointed out.
So who's to say you won't be made complete fools of again?
The floor is yours...
Mnewn- now do you see why I do what I do?
Good to see your posts as always.
I'm after truth, wherever it leads to.
Amen! Me too.
TRUTHERS!!
The subversion of that label as that to be ridiculed is demonstratve of the depths of moral depravity into which this Government has descended.
to which "jet engines laying on sidewalks" do your refer?
apologies for stepping into this point of the thread.
Ok a fan from one of the engines, in a drainage basin.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a5688/debunking-911-myths-flight-93/
Surely "Truthers" (not saying you blindman) are no longer saying jetliners did not hit both towers, I think we're beyond the hysterical nature of that by now.
Probably planted at the scene though, to reinforce the hologram avenue of their "investigation".
The problem with being married to a proposition or theory is once its debunked one has to sink deeper into the abyss.
Do you see any differences between these plane crashes?
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=twa%20flight%20800%20crash%20site&qs=n&form=QBIR&pq=twa%20flight%20800%20crash%20site&sc=1-25&sp=-1&sk=
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=flight%2093%20crash%20site&qs=n&form=QBIR&pq=flight%2093%20crash%20site&sc=8-20&sp=-1&sk=
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=pentagon%209%2F11&qs=n&form=QBIR&pq=pentagon%209%2F11&sc=8-10&sp=-1&sk=
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=plane%20crash&qs=n&form=QBIR&pq=plane%20crash&sc=8-11&sp=-1&sk=
Not to impugn your diligent efforts but what does any of that have to do with voice recognition software, holograms and nanothermite?
Its a foregone conclusion that passenger jetliners, did in fact hit the towers.
Try this comparison:
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=airplane+crash+into+empire+state+building&qs=n&form=QBIR&pq=airplane+crash+into+empire+state+building&sc=2-35&sp=-1&sk=
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=twin+tower+collapse&qs=n&form=QBIR&pq=twin+tower+collapse&sc=8-11&sp=-1&sk=
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Mt+st+helens&qs=n&form=QBIR&pq=mt+st+helens&sc=8-11&sp=-1&sk=
The trade centers were specifically designed to withstand plane crashes because of the Empire State building being crashed into. No possible way they could have collapsed. What pulverized things to dust? Also, planes and cars only explode like that in the movies. Pyrotechnics.
The Trade Center was not designed for the impact of a passenger jetliner (no tall building is) a Piper Cub, no problem.
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Clearly I've wasted enough of my time here.
Seeya
nmewn...
I do not know why you are in such denial.
Kerosene cannot fuel a fire hot enough to vaporize Titanium. (That is the metal which the Compressor Fans and Exhaust Fans of Jet Engines are fabricated.) If that were the case then the Jet Engine Exhaust Fans in any operational jet aircraft would burn through. Jets would never get off the ground as the engines started to thrust. They would burn through their Housings and explode of the ground.
The fact that so few engine components were found demonstrates that somehow they were disintegrated to that which was unrecognizable. Furthermore one partial Engine out of four were recovered. How hot was that fire to where the Engine components would vaporize or oxidize into nothingness?
Kerosene, even under the pressure incurred in the combustion chamber of a Jet Engine, cannot burn hot enough to vaporize Titanium.
In a Catastophic Jet Engine Failure the Titanium may crack, contort, shred and bend. It may even melt a little. IT DOES NOT VAPORIZE.
At times the LACK OF EVIDENCE, as in the MISSING ENGINE PARTS, screams louder than the existing evidence. Yes they did find ONE. What happened to the OTHER THREE?
Please tell me...What can cause a fire hot enough to melt...AND VAPORIZE or oxidize...the Titanium?
(Can Thermite cause a fire hot enough? The fire that hot certainly is NOT KEROSENE FUELED.)
As for nanothermite there are particles found in the dust of the aftermath that indicate the process. Identification of those particulates is easily accomplished with mass spectrometry and electron microscopy. It is an indisputable fact.
Architects and Engineers For 911 Truth has presented EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE. I have read the peer reviewed articles which were published in Science Journals.
As for Resonant Pulse Weapons and/or HARRP. (Dr. Judy Wood's untestable hypothesis) There is no supporting EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE. That is mere speculation, very possible, but not possibly demonstrable from the existing EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE.
But your denial of the fact that the design specifications of the buildings were to withstand Jet Airliner impacts, the denial of the fact that nanothermite particulates were within that dust, and your refusal to accept the fact that the inherent heat in the aftermath vaporized the Titanium Engines, is just as irrational as those who believe in Holograms.
The EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE suggests otherwise.
You may suggest that you are seeking the truth. Seeking the truth is a noble act. But truthfully you are deluding yourself because you are denying that which is.
I am sorry. Your Government as well as the Israeli Government, the Saudi Government, and others had foreknowledge.
I do not know why you cannot accept the facts.
Are you that invested into the idea that our Government is good and just? (It is not.) Will it destroy part of your persona to accept the facts, the Emperical Evidence? It will cause your disillusionment.
I am sorry. Really I am.
Seriously Tom, I pointed out that one of the fan blades was found...that is to say, not incinerated or destroyed...then you set up an entire strawman argument saying that I said Jet-A melts titanium? I don't know how you can do that when the text of everything I said is right there for everyone to re-read.
And being as how you do in fact have knowledge of chemistry, you think finding iron and other oxides in the dust around just collapsed buildings points to nanothermite instead of paint & rust? I guess some see a single tree when others see a forest.
And don't ever accuse me of being a collaborator in this which seems to be your tone, elements of the Saudi government (princes) do in fact support assholes like the ones involved. That is beyond dispute. Now in what corner of hell the Israeli, American & Saudi governments would meet up and cordially agree for this "plan" to be carried out on the innocent is beyond my scope of understanding.
I'm sure you have a well thought out reason why they did and who precisely "they" are...
Actually it was one half of an Engine Housing which was found. That is more than one of the fan blades.
The fact that the others were not found strongly implies that they could not be found. Things just do not magically disappear...
Thus they burned up.
Engines survive Plane crashes. Along with the Tail they are that which is most likely to survive.
And being as how you do in fact have knowledge of chemistry, you think finding iron and other oxides in the dust around just collapsed buildings points to nanothermite instead of paint & rust? I guess some see a single tree when others see a forest.
Well when the EVIDENCE points out that paint and rust cannot account for it, then, yes. As for my background it is founded on Physics, moreso than Chemistry, but I still have an adequate understanding of Chemistry.
As for the nanothermite there was Aluminium and Iron Microspheres with Sulfur.
You can read about that here.
http://www1.ae911truth.org/en/news-section/41-articles/348-previously-molten-iron-spheres-were-in-wtc-dust-reveal-use-of-thermitic-materials.html
From this article you can read that,
This, along with the chemical makeup of the spheres, was first discussed by physicist Steven Jones and other scientists in two articles published in 2007 and 2008. The chemical signature of several of the spheres shows significant amounts of aluminum, thus matching the signature of thermite residue but not that of steel. Some of these spheres also contain sulfur but no calcium. So the origin of the sulfur cannot be gypsum (from the buildings’ wallboard). Thermate, a special thermite mixture developed by the military, contains sulfur. The chemical signature of many of the WTC dust spheres also "strikingly" matches that of the spheres and spheroids found in the residue of ignited red/gray nanothermite composite chips.
Furthermore here are the links to some of the published papers...
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod.pdf
Pay attention to page 77.
http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/WTCHighTemp2.pdf
Now I invite you to read them.
If you are searching for the truth then you will be able to read them, critically analyze them, and debunk the science behind them.
Or if you cannot debunk them, then accept them.
This is only a start.
You may end up spending the hundreds of hours into this rabbit hole as I have. Of course the US Government removed the link to the RJ Lee Survey done by RJ Lee and Stephen Jones from the USGS website...
They are doing their damndest to cover this up.
(Of course, on another "off topic" about the fact that the US Government Mint Depository at Fort Knox is empty, the links to the announcement of the suspension of Fractional Gold Coins back in 2009...due to the fact that the US Mint ran out of Gold...was also removed from the US Mint's website. Funny how the Government is beginning to censor itself??? I am Jack's complete lack of surprise. 1984)
Now I know that you are not a "collaborator". No disrespect intended.
And, no, I do not know exactly who did this, or, the exact reasons why, although I have some strong inclinations. If I did have absolute knowledge then I'd had been directly involved...which...I was not.
However when the Mossad Agent is on Israeli late night TV, and allows it to slip that he and his colleagues were there, to "Document the Event" rather than to STOP THE ATTACK then that is prima facie evidence that they had foreknowledge.
https://youtu.be/tRfhUezbKLw?t=1m20s
With all due respect it is undeniable.
Now I encourage you to look at my links. I encourage you to read and study this.
And I encourage you to stop denying the evidence. At least research it. Use my links.