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Vietnam Shuns US, Joins Russia-Led Economic Union

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With many of the world's nations drawing closer to the China-led AIIB, and The Greeks in Moscow today, the news that Vietnam has agreed all of the principle aspects in creating a free trade zone between the countries of the Russia-led Eurasian Economic Union, will likely come as yet another blow to Washington.

As Sputnik News reports,

During the first day of Dmitry Medvedev's visit to Vietnam, the Russian and Vietnamese sides have signed several agreements on energy cooperation.

 

“Almost all of the parameters have been agreed, and the preparation of documents have reached the final stage," Medvedev said after negotiations in Vietnam's capital of Hanoi.

 

Medvedev stated that a contract will soon be signed between Moscow and Hanoi.

 

"I hope that we will soon move on to signing the agreement," Medvedev added.

 

Hanoi plans to sign an agreement with the Eurasian Economic Union on a free trade zone by the middle of this year, Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguy?n T?n D?ng said.

 

“Our goods turnover has dropped a bit lately and in order to improve the situation, we decided to instruct our ministers, businessmen, and organs from both sides to take measures on signing an agreement soon on a free trade zone between Vietnam and the Eurasian Economic Union in the first half of 2015,” D?ng said in a joint statement with Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev.

 

D?ng added that Vietnam is striving to increase its goods turnover with Russia to $10 billion by 2020.

 

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“We are continuing our cooperation in nuclear energy and have discussed the current situation of business,” Medvedev said after negotiations in Vietnam’s capital of Hanoi.

 

Medvedev added that an overall framework agreement would soon be signed.

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Wed, 04/08/2015 - 16:38 | 5972673 Jonesy
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So long JewSA, everybody wants away from you.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 16:49 | 5972719 CarpetShag
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No longer wrong to be long the Dong?

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 16:54 | 5972746 Beam Me Up Scotty
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"will likely come as yet another blow to Washington"

Seems like alot of "blowing" has been going on in Washington lately.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:03 | 5972777 Pladizow
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Obama is China's bitch!

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 18:42 | 5973122 Freddie
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These "communists" and their trade deals.   Putin flies around the world promoting global world (free) trade. 

Obola plays with his droning murder trading cards after play golf. 

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 18:54 | 5973199 svayambhu108
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What is with all this war talk latelly

Love not war

Nice  vietcong ladies in the background

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 19:18 | 5973264 Fukushima Fricassee
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Reggie's bitch

Thu, 04/09/2015 - 00:53 | 5974249 WOAR
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YOU JUST SAID OBAMA'S GOT NO NIPPLES!

OOOOOOOOH!

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:03 | 5972784 negative rates
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And that's the way they like it.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 18:33 | 5973127 SickDollar
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Bitchez , we are getting closer to WWIII, watch out for a false flag

boy 2015 is full of crazy events and we are only in April FFS

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 16:50 | 5972723 HonkyShogun
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Et tu, Charlie?

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:34 | 5972912 Freddie
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Kilgore: What the hell do you know about surfing, Major? You're from goddamned New Jersey!

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 16:52 | 5972726 LasVegasDave
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Russia will spy on your life too, but they'll leave you be, and wont force their niggers and homos down your throat.

In this fucked up world, if I'm Vietnam I take that trade.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 16:58 | 5972756 giggler321
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i'm sorry mate but your post is so bad.  if you got a problem with someone you don't know, stand on a street corner with a sign and protest - that's how it works today...

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:03 | 5972783 LasVegasDave
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this is the fucking street corner, mate.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:10 | 5972802 graneros
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Retort of the day. +1

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 18:42 | 5973165 SilverIsKing
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I'm for protesting cause that really works.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 19:37 | 5973335 Ignatius
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"this is the fucking street corner, mate."

Yeah?  Well why don't you try 65th and Compton just for shits and goggles.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:18 | 5972841 davidalan1
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Truth hurts a bit? Especially when spoken so succintly and directly and honestly. Minus the PC crap

Thu, 04/09/2015 - 03:03 | 5974358 researchfix
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"wont force their niggers and homos down your throat."

Of which they have none and few.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:54 | 5972992 teslaberry
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so there is now an automated bot dedicated troll to putting the first comment as just antisemitic race baiting nonsense. may as well add some bots that curse out niggers spicks wetbacks etc..blablabla

 

why stop?

 

 

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 18:15 | 5973073 cheech_wizard
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I'll get busy on writing one right away. 

Dorothy
I don't like this ghetto! It's - it's dark and creepy!
Scarecrow
Of course, I don't know, but I think it'll get darker before it gets lighter.
Dorothy
Do - do you suppose we'll meet any wild animals?
Tin Man
Mmmm - we might.
Dorothy
Oh -
Scarecrow
Animals that - that eat straw?
Tin Man
A - some - but mostly niggers and wetbacks and spicks.
Dorothy
Niggers!
Scarecrow
And wetbacks!
Tin Man
And spicks!
Dorothy

OH MY!

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 18:15 | 5973071 HardAssets
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Gulf of Tonkin 2 on the way ?

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 23:11 | 5973971 blowing winter
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I'm making over $7k a month working part time. I kept hearing other people tell me how much money they can make online so I decided to look into it. Well, it was all true and has totally changed my life. This is what I do... www.globe-report.com

Thu, 04/09/2015 - 00:20 | 5974185 Perimetr
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What did we ever do to Vietname to be treated this way???

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 16:39 | 5972676 Rainman
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And Oblameo asks : ' What time we teeing up ' ?

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 16:59 | 5972761 Max Steel
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It means Vietnam has shunned US proposed TPP ( Trans Pacific Partnership ) ? If yes , then booyah !

TPP is pure sham . Good to see asian are not dumb enough to fall for it . But Japan , S.korea , Australia , New Zealand will anyhow .

Thu, 04/09/2015 - 04:04 | 5974405 Motasaurus
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Australia isn't "falling" for it. We probably wrote the damn thing (like we did Israel's formation). We're still just a continent of convicts shovelling coal for The Empire. 

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 16:41 | 5972678 JustObserving
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Can you fault Vietnam for that?

3.8 million Vietnamese killed in false flag war based on Gulf of Tonkin incident that never happened

VIETNAM WAR KILLED 3.8 MILLION VIETNAMESE, NOT 2.1 MILLION?

https://mattsteinglass.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/vietnam-war-killed-38-mi...

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 16:41 | 5972684 cossack55
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Vietnamese is in the top 5 of folks to split a foxhole with.  Damn fine fighters.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 16:44 | 5972694 JustObserving
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Giap considered one of the greatest generals in human history:

Military leader Vo Nguyen Giap defeated French, U.S. forces in Vietnam conflicts

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/military-leader-vo-nguyen...

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 16:51 | 5972725 optimator
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We should have ended the war by sending in B-52s in mass to Hanoi years before they had SA-2 missiles in place.  That and sinking a few Brit ships in Haiphong Harbour would have ended it.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:22 | 5972866 fudge
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Russian Federation thanks the US for the Bear refueling stop.

:-)))

 

Thu, 04/09/2015 - 03:04 | 5974359 researchfix
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That seems settled now.

Thu, 04/09/2015 - 03:58 | 5974397 fudge
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Yes it does. Once again true Diplomacy and mutually beneficial 2 way Trade make for better global relations .. Win-Win for the peoples of Vietnam and Russia and further proof that it is NOT Russia that is ' isolated ' in the NEW Multi-Polar World :-)

Veiled threats from the Great Satan fail yet again, they really should learn from their mistakes >> but I'm sure they won't. ;-)

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 16:40 | 5972681 Kirk2NCC1701
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Send in McCain.

Book him into a Hanoi hotel.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 16:42 | 5972689 cossack55
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And this time don't  let the motherfucker out.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 16:48 | 5972713 optimator
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But lock him up in the same cell with a real woman to comfort him, may I suggest Jane Fonda.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:01 | 5972771 Usurious
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may I suggest Golda Meir?

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 18:17 | 5973078 cheech_wizard
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Way off the mark... Janet Yellin.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:39 | 5972930 Freddie
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Which McCain?

The one who almost sunk the USS Forrestal?  (see why Forrestal was murdered - by zio's)

The McCain who sold out the USS Liberty?

The McCain who with Kerry sold out US POWs and MIAs? 

Kerry's family (Colliers comml real estate - has a lifetime exclusive on Vietnamese commercial real estate).

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 16:45 | 5972695 Dr. Engali
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Ungrateful bastards. We need to drop more freedom bombs on them. That will teach them.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:05 | 5972702 JustObserving
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Perhaps, more napalm will do the trick.  Only 388,000 tons was dropped - apparently, that was not enough:

Napalm in Vietnam

Napalm, which was considered as one of the most successful weapons, was quickly employed in the Vietnam War in 1963. 388,000 tons of napalm was dropped in Vietnam during 1963 -1973 period – more than ten times the amount of napalm used in Korea.

http://thevietnamwar.info/napalm-vietnam-war/

But enough Agent Orange was dropped that 1 million Vietnamese are suffering from its effects today per the Vietnamese Red Cross.

 

Generation Orange: Heartbreaking portraits of Vietnamese children suffering from devastating effects of toxic herbicide sprayed by US Army 40 years ago  

During his travels, Driscoll got to meet and take pictures of teenagers and children as young as 5 suffering from debilitating conditions, among them Nguyen Pham, 11, who is deaf, blind and mute. The boy has been bed-ridden for most of his life.

Agent Orange is the combination of the code names for Herbicide Orange and Agent LNX, one of the herbicides and defoliants used by the U.S. military as part of its chemical warfare program, Operation Ranch Hand, during the Vietnam War from 1961 to 1971.

In the course of 10 years, American forces sprayed nearly 20 million gallons of the chemical in Vietnam, Laos and parts of Cambodia in an effort to deprive guerrilla fighters of cover by destroying plants and trees where they could find refuge.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2401378/Agent-Orange-Vietnamese-...

 

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:12 | 5972811 Dr. Engali
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Yep, we kill off people in the most horrific ways and then we have the audacity to talk about another country's human rights issues.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:54 | 5972994 Freddie
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Loads of Vietnam Vets dead or dying from Agent Orange.

Not a word is said about LBJ's lie. 

Not a word is said that he, MIC and certain defeZio-e contractors like the one who backed Obama -were involved in the death of JFK and was backing LBJ all the way.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 16:46 | 5972704 CarpetShag
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That chick in the background with the blue skirt is carrying a packet of condoms.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 16:47 | 5972706 Creepy A. Cracker
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Another Dear Leader Obama success story!!!

<sigh...>

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:02 | 5972768 Omen IV
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AND ......China is finishing agreements with Laos and Cambodia - Trifecta!

between the dams on the Mekong and the Rail ---- they fucked Obama in the............. drive thru

 

The game is backing up everywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and this:

A White House official said Tuesday that Venezuela was not a threat to the national security of the United States, backing off language in an executive order that had inflamed relations with the South American nation and drawn criticism from other countries in the region.

The comments came as President Obama prepared to leave for a trip to the Caribbean and Latin America that will include a meeting of heads of state from the hemisphere. “The United States does not believe that Venezuela poses some threat to our national security,” said Benjamin J. Rhodes, deputy national security adviser for strategic communications, during a telephone call with reporters to discuss the president’s trip.

 

 

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 18:18 | 5973080 Freddie
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After the Vietnam War - Vietnam went in to Cambodia to take out Pol Pot.  This pissed off China and they attacked Vietnam.

The VIetnamese Army was mainly in Cambodia and kicked China's ass with just Vietnamese militias.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 16:47 | 5972709 john milton
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http://www.iran-daily.com/News/115153.html

Iran’s President Hassan Rouhani and his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan agreed to boost trade and signed a raft of agreements at a meeting in Tehran on Tuesday.

The Turkish leader also noted that the two neighbors had better start trading in their own currencies instead of dollars or euros to avoid foreign exchange volatility, reports say.... so no need for dollar here..

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 16:47 | 5972712 ebworthen
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The U.S. has demonstrated that it is a two-faced backstabbing warmongering spying evil squid with tentacles that never stop grasping - and that's just how it treats its own citizens! 

U.S. has treated the rest of the world in the same way, so no one should be surprised by this.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 16:58 | 5972759 Omen IV
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The Empire of Chaos..........is in CHAOS!!!!

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:19 | 5972851 fascismlover
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It's been a while so it's about time for another false flag with Russia's fingerprints on it this time.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:21 | 5972858 davidalan1
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This shit is reminding me as a kid of choosing teams for sandlot sports.  Team obie is fucked.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:21 | 5972862 Fun Facts
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The ZioCons are leading the US into a dark corner.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 18:22 | 5973092 HardAssets
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It's almost as if theyre trying to destroy America, isn't it ?

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 19:49 | 5973386 HowdyDoody
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They have also been supplying China with top grade US military know-how. The Zionists are looking to jump ship. The question is - will China/Russia allow themselves to become thew new host?

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:28 | 5972887 Infinite QE
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The Anti-Bolshevik Federation is growing and growing.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:30 | 5972895 tocointhephrase
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Wun sum dou

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:33 | 5972908 DutchBoy2015
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As a former American (renounced last year ) and Vietnam Vet (DaNang 71-72)  I laud the Vietnamese .  Who would want to do business with a bunch of worthless cocksucking bullies and bastards who think their shit doesn't stink?

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:43 | 5972948 SilvertonguedAngel
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When the USA says let's do business, it just means it wants to ass rape you.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:50 | 5972977 TeethVillage88s
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Now you guys have a good String.

Why would people with self respect or values tie in with the USA... Russia has issues too and not sure I would do that if I was a good Buddhist or Vietnam Man of Values.

But Russia lost to the Bully 20 years ago.

USA Abuses it's power and doesn't steward it's World Reserve Currency. What else would an Oriental thing, but that the Power was corrupted and abusing.

USA = High Debt & poor honesty politically and statistically about it's wars, economy, and social wealth of middle class.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 18:05 | 5973043 Berspankme
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USA is a bankrupt nation, morally, socially and financially

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 19:30 | 5973312 Icelandicsaga.....
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Have not renounced yet .. but wife's parents gave us some acreage in the southern part of tje country near Vinh Long .. love those people ..hard workng . kind  .. and most do not have any hatred of Americans .. strange to say .... now have a son .. and trying to decide if we move to Nam part of the year or all the time . Vietnam in many ways is more free than the US  .. more small business .. .. some corruption but not bad .. they buy gold as savings .. .. and are survivors .. fact Vietnam sided with the Russians .. is our fault .. can not blame the Vietnamese ..... if you ever go to Ho Chi Minh City .. go see the Bitexco Towers .. the city is growing and you can find real estate deals if you hook up with locals.. otherwise its pricey ... and get used to scooters... cause cars are few and far between .. as I see this country .. USSA ...... swirling into the toilet ... living there permanently looks better and better.. if you can not take the heat try . Dalat . very cool .. province of gardens .. property is relatively cheap there because "Vietnamese think Dalat is place where ghosts live .. Da Nang and Nha Trang all have an expat community .. living there is cheap . you can do so . and live quite well     for less than 2K per month .. some do it on less .. but if you are going to do it .. better do it before the USSA starts yanking passports ...... and if you can open a bank account .. asap.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 21:20 | 5973658 Volkodav
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you should meet this guy:

http://windowstorussia.com/

Nam sniper married Russian Lady

'Grouchy Bear' to ZH

lots compare and info from Russia

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:35 | 5972916 DutchBoy2015
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Everyone in the world now knows the USA is NEVER to be trusted.  The truth about all their false flag operations and their goal of world hegemony is now out in the open,.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 20:54 | 5973573 Monty Burns
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But don't forget USA is de facto occupied teritory. 

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:37 | 5972924 Spectre
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Sure is gonna be funny when the Chinese AIIB & the Russian led Eurasion Union together put the screws to us.  Our corrupt politicians deserve it.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 21:36 | 5973714 jerry_theking_lawler
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The sad part is that the 'screws' will be put to US first, then the politicians next....Oligarchs last, if they don't make it out to Paraguay, etc before then...

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:40 | 5972932 SilvertonguedAngel
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That is some funny shit.

 

Charlie's president has 3 ?'s in his name!lol

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 17:50 | 5972976 q99x2
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Now can we arrest the globalists?

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 18:01 | 5973023 TheGreatRecovery
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American citizens STILL cannot retire to Vietnam and receive Social Security checks.  They can retire to most nations in the world, but not to Vietnam.  The genocidal Judeochristians who run Washington DC will never forgive Vietnam for successfully protecting its people from their bombs, napalm, and enslavement-by-banking.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 18:07 | 5973050 Berspankme
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But most importantly do the Vietnamese allow fag marriage?

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 20:52 | 5973564 Monty Burns
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Now dat's true.

Thu, 04/09/2015 - 00:26 | 5974197 TheReplacement
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Am not sure how you can tie in any practicing christians with that but whatever.

Thu, 04/09/2015 - 00:52 | 5974248 DutchBoy2015
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They don't have ATM's in Vietnam?

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 18:01 | 5973024 thecrud
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Oooo they joined something as useless as the tits on a bore hog.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 18:03 | 5973035 TheGreatRecovery
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I like my tits.

Signed, Bore Hog

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 18:19 | 5973086 DutchBoy2015
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Says the shit for brains Americunt who can only build hamburgers and nothing else.  

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 20:51 | 5973562 Monty Burns
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Ok, but not all Americans, not even most, are like the bastards you're getting at.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 18:22 | 5973089 DutchBoy2015
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Hey fuckface, your infrastructure is falling apart in the USA and its light years behind Europe and increasinly ASIA.  Suggest you get out of your trailer and do some travelling , you goddam MORON.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 18:31 | 5973114 SickDollar
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Boy, you are as pure as it can get

Pure 100% sheeple, what a fucken Bozo you are.

 

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 19:06 | 5973225 me or you
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I can't blame you I know your ignorance is  due to Hollywood,  MSM propaganda and watching too many reality shows. 

Thu, 04/09/2015 - 04:47 | 5974436 Jano
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Then let them be.

do not meddle in EUrope, Ukraine, better go home andl leave the whole world to live its life wtihouot your zio regime.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 19:13 | 5973246 HardAssets
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me or you: " I can't blame you I know your ignorance is due to Hollywood, MSM propaganda and watching too many reality shows. "

Dont forget the 'schools'. Theyve been dumbing down Americans for a long time too.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 20:58 | 5973588 me or you
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You are very right my friend.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 20:24 | 5973493 logical-different
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"You don't have to be a genius to figure this one out"

The USA killed well over a million people in Vietnam and vicinity during the Vietnam war.   Another horrible illegal action by the Americans.   Guess where everyone is about to go.   Right to the Russians and Chinese because their trust in America has begun to crumble.   The almighty buck is about to take a major hit eventually.  

I ask America only one thing.   Please don't start a major world war because you're not the top dog anymore.   Realize that you have to get along with everyone and not look at them like a Piranha looking for their next victim.

Get rid of the FED and  neuter  Wall Street as fast as you can.   These guys make it very uneasy for any country to do business with the USA.   GOOD LUCK!!

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 20:49 | 5973560 Monty Burns
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It seems to me that they're doing everything in their power to provoke Russia into starting WW III.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 20:56 | 5973579 me or you
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I'd better say Americans start enjoing your "third world country style of life."

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 21:01 | 5973595 mendolover
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All this makes me wonder if the man-in-lieu of a CIC ever tires of pretending that all this shunning of the US in foreign agreements is a disappointment to him.  He loves it and his mentors can't be happier with him.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 21:20 | 5973657 Jungle Jim
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What does any of this mean for metals prices? I mean in the near term, not in 5 or 10 or 20 years. Last time I looked, they were way down again.

Wed, 04/08/2015 - 22:53 | 5973909 sidiji
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US is fading fast

Thu, 04/09/2015 - 03:49 | 5974387 Zwelgje
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First thing I thought, going down like a brick in water.

Thu, 04/09/2015 - 00:22 | 5974189 TheReplacement
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Blah, blah and blah.

Now to the important issue at hand.

Who is the hotty in the blue skirt?

Thu, 04/09/2015 - 03:35 | 5974380 Gold_Spot
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What will cause more constipation to USNeoCons is that China is already moving towards better ties with Vietnam. Let's see: Russia returned Crimea without fireing a single shot. Russia unifies Asia trade without resorting to war.

I suggest a new action PC game where on one side are the US military with lots of weapons and the other the smart guys that always win. Brute force always had local not lasting success. Smartness always lasts

Thu, 04/09/2015 - 04:27 | 5974417 Element
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hmm ... yeah ... looks like it falls to people who are actually paying attention to inject some 'reality' into yet another banal zh dirge, as it sure isn't going to come from objective informed blogger-ers at zero hedge. Published just a week ago: 

Vietnam Seeks To Strengthen US, Japan Ties - By Pierre Tran, April 2, 2015

Vietnam is seeking to strengthen ties with Tokyo and Washington in a search for security against neighboring China — a fellow communist power but one whose territorial claims are raising concerns, an international relations expert said. ... "That's why they want a partner outside southeast Asia, including Japan and to some extent even the United States," he said.

 

The whole truth, not just the partial truth. Incidentally the word partial shares the same root origin as the word partisan - curious, no? But now watch how many confirmation-bias and echo-chamber addicts reach for their little red button of angst to salve their impugned over-stimulated sense of irk.

i.e. if you react in that way it is evidence you were interested in being informed, from the beginning, were you?

And btw, it is you are supposed to stand apart from the crowd, when everyone else is doing the collective nazi-salute and goose-step thing. It's you who is supposed to stand apart and coolly watch a shallow crowd of peer fools swallow an echo-chamber full of fables. It is you who is supposed to do your own reading, and your own research, and actually think for yourself - and not just do shallow lip-service to the concept of thinking, or finding evidence. It's you who is not supposed to swallow every bit of twisted spam which some dubious author plopped on to your 'telescreen'.

 

Apologies if pointing that out fucked with your radical ignoramus ambiance .

 

PS:  Regarding 'Eurasia', which so many of you are all keen on, I don't suppose it's sunk into your skull that it's an Orwellian-State name?

Eurasia
One of the three world superstates as described in George Orwell's "1984." Eurasia consists of all of continental Europe, all of the Russias, North Africa, and some parts of the middle-east. Eurasia's flag is a green banner featuring a black coloured clenched fist and the word "Eurasia" spelled-out in English across the top. The three superstates all have the exact same styles of government, with their populations kept in a state of controled ignorance. Also, all three superstates are continuously at war with each other, alliances changing on a monthly basis, with two superstates ganging-up a third.
 
See also: Oceania, Eastasia, 1984, and George Orwell. "We are at war with Eurasia. We've always been at war with Eurasia."

The ignorant crowd of 'sheep' making the metaphorical nazi-salutes to a perpetually new set of variable facts and histories, as branwashing inadequately concealed, is not 'out there', somewhere, ... it is right here ...it is you who are doing it. You are the ones who failed to 'wake up' and are instead still obliviously lapping at a cesspool of lies each and every day.

 

 

Thu, 04/09/2015 - 04:57 | 5974452 dreadnaught
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LOL! "PERPETUAL WAR NEWS" now THERES a reliable source     

Thu, 04/09/2015 - 06:22 | 5974499 Element
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There are no 'reliable sources'.

There are no 'better' sources even, there's just fiction calling itself truth, and the people who easily believe almost anything.

There used to be a link at the top of the page called the zero hedge "Manifesto" which used to say something approximately like I did there. But apparently it is no longer desirable or expedient to warn people about what they read here, or what they 'think' (haha!) or 'conclude' based on what they read here ... no matter who the author is ... that zh manifesto link has been taken down, however the text remains active if you search for it:

http://www.zerohedge.com/about

 

the zero hedge manifesto

 


 
 
 

 

our mission:

  • to widen the scope of financial, economic and political information available to the professional investing public.
  • to skeptically examine and, where necessary, attack the flaccid institution that financial journalism has become.
  • to liberate oppressed knowledge.
  • to provide analysis uninhibited by political constraint.
  • to facilitate information's unending quest for freedom.

 

our method: pseudonymous speech...

 

anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority. it thus exemplifies the purpose behind the bill of rights, and of the first amendment in particular: to protect unpopular individuals from retaliation-- and their ideas from suppression-- at the hand of an intolerant society.

   ...responsibly used.

 

the right to remain anonymous may be abused when it shields fraudulent conduct. but political speech by its nature will sometimes have unpalatable consequences, and, in general, our society accords greater weight to the value of free speech than to the dangers of its misuse.

 

- mcintyre v. ohio elections commission 514 u.s. 334 (1995) justice stevens writing for the majority

 

though often maligned (typically by those frustrated by an inability to engage in ad hominem attacks) anonymous speech has a long and storied history in the united states. used by the likes of mark twain (aka samuel langhorne clemens) to criticize common ignorance, and perhaps most famously by alexander hamilton, james madison and john jay (aka publius) to write the federalist papers, we think ourselves in good company in using one or another nom de plume. particularly in light of an emerging trend against vocalizing public dissent in the united states, we believe in the critical importance of anonymity and its role in dissident speech. like the economist magazine, we also believe that keeping authorship anonymous moves the focus of discussion to the content of speech and away from the speaker- as it should be. we believe not only that you should be comfortable with anonymous speech in such an environment, but that you should be suspicious of any speech that isn't.

i.e. free of the tyranny of the crowd's group-'think', enforced by a collective threat, or peer pressure, or ego. And yet people in zh cowardly group-think, regardless! They have come to identify with their online 'persona' and 'avatar' which becomes their effective 'identity', so they act as though they are no longer anonymous! So they begin to self-censor, they more-or-less comply with the populist group-think of the room, they have not the balls to even question the echo chamber any more. Too afraid of the opprobrium of zh's populist collective voice. Hence the commentary is rendered an unproductive farce of mincing intellectual cowards, unwilling to risk the dust-ups.
 
 
I piss on that and always will.

 

Thu, 04/09/2015 - 06:35 | 5974519 Ghordius
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Element, +1

"...they have not the balls to even question the echo chamber any more. Too afraid of the opprobrium of zh's populist collective voice"

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:11 | 5978121 Max Steel
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hmm ... yeah ... looks like it falls to people who are actually paying attention to inject some 'reality' into yet another banal zh dirge, as it sure isn't going to come from objective informed blogger-ers at zero hedge. Published just a week ago:

LOL see this where problem occurs . You take one fragment of the ongoing discussion and start beating to it like a good all ignorant yank . This is the  pertinent part of your diatribe .

Vietnam has joined Eurasian Economic Union . Oh! if Viets are really tilted towards US proprosed sham TPP why didn't they ratified it and signed it ? tpp came early than eau proposal .

Future lies with Eurasian co-operation in East .Talking about S.China conflict yes China is flexing muscles which worries its neighbors just like US flexes its globally and it worries more than a quarter of nations . FYI Vietnam has close military co-operation with Russia . Moreover just quoting an article showing viets talked in order to have close military ties with japan , us doesn't prove anything . Each country do a lot of talking but what actions it take shows its interest . US lifted the arms embargo from vietnam and now they can sell weapons to vietnam . but viets aren't interested in buying it .
If viets and neighbors are son annoyed than why did they join AIIB . Pissed troll ? Even aussies defied and joined .

Quoting Orwell well those neo wankers are always at war with eurasia and they are loosing out their sheen already . Your inane rumble dragging US and its unipolar world with its puppet nations ( satellite nations ) is preposterous . You are  still just a continent of convicts shovelling coal for The Empire . 

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