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Fukushima Chiefs: The Technology Needed To Decommission 3 China-Syndromed Reactors Doesn’t Exist ... Maybe In 200 Years?
Preface: As you read this post, please keep in mind:
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The reactors didn’t just suffer a melt down, or even a China syndrome type melt-through, but a series of melt OUTS. Scientists have no idea where the cores of the nuclear reactors are. Well actually, maybe they have found them … scattered all over kingdom come.
- In response to the Fukushima crisis, Japan banned journalism, and Japan has once again gone fascist. If the heads of Fukushima are publicly telling mainstream media such as NHK that things are bad - and the government is letting them do it - you know things are really bad ...
We reported in 2012 that top nuclear experts say that the technology doesn’t yet even exist to clean up Fukushima.
Now, the head of the Fukushima nuclear plant and the head of decommissioning at Fukushima both say that the technology doesn’t exist to clean up Fukushima, and it may not exist for hundreds of years … if ever.
The Times of London reported last month:
The chief of the Fukushima nuclear power station has admitted that the technology needed to decommission three melted-down reactors does not exist, and he has no idea how it will be developed.
In a stark reminder of the challenge facing the Japanese authorities, Akira Ono conceded that the stated goal of decommissioning the plant by 2051 may be impossible without a giant technological leap. “There are so many uncertainties involved. We need to develop many, many technologies,” Mr. Ono said.
EneNews notes:
NHK ‘Nuclear Watch’ transcript, Mar 31, 2015 (emphasis added):
- NHK: The people trying to decommission the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant have been hit by setback after setback… and faced accusations of misconduct. It’s lost them a lot of public trust… [Naohiro Masuda, president of Tepco’s decommissioning company] revealed he’s not sure if he can comply with the government set plan [for] removing the fuel…
- Naohiro Masuda, president of Tepco’s Fukushima Daiichi Decommissioning Company: We have no idea about the debris. We don’t know its shape or strength. We have to remove it remotely from 30 meters above, but we don’t have that kind of technology, it simply doesn’t exist... We still don’t know whether it’s possible to fill the reactor containers with water. We’ve found some cracks and holes in the three damaged container vessels, but we don’t know if we found them all. If it turns out there are other holes, we might have to look for some other way to remove the debris.
- NHK: Asked [about the gov’t target to begin by 2020], his answer was surprisingly candid.
- Masuda: It’s a very big challenge. Honestly speaking, I cannot say it’s possible.
Dale Klein, Tepco Nuclear Reform Monitoring Committee chair, Mar 31, 2015 (at 24:00 in):
- Richard Lloyd Parry, The Times: I was at the plant last week on the tour and we talked Mr. Ono, the boss. He made no bones about the fact that the technology… to remove the molten or semi-molten fuel doesn’t exist yet… I asked him how can you be sure that it will be, and he said, “Well, 200 years ago people would never have dreamed of bullet trains or mobile phones, but they exist.” That seems to be the scale of the leap… that’s going to be required. So there must be immense uncertainties around that… There must surely be a chance that it won’t work out, and that the eventual solution will be something like the Chernobyl solution… a sarcophagus of some kind sealing in the 3 plants…
- Klein: This is something that has never been done… Units 1, 2, and 3… molten fuel penetrated the bottom of the vessel… We don’t know… how much and where it moved. ***
Akira Ono, chief of Fukushima Daiichi, Mar 28, 2015: “There are so many uncertainties… For removal of the debris, we don’t have accurate information… or any viable methodology… I believe human beings have the capability to develop technologies…
It may take 200 years.”
In related news, Fukushima radiation just arrived on the West Coast of North America.
We explained in 2012:
[Airborne] radiation from Japan’s nuclear accident has turned up in seaweed on the coasts of California, Washington and other parts of the West Coast of North America.
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A 1955 U.S. government report concluded that the ocean may not adequately dilute radiation from nuclear accidents.
MIT says that seawater which is itself radioactive may begin hitting the West Coast within 5 years.
And government experts measured "astounding" levels of radiative xenon in the U.S. from Fukushima.
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Mmmm, keeping the backup diesel generators (that ultimately would continue to provide circulation of the coolant in the event of such a disaster) in the basement where a flooding event would render them inoperable wasn't our decision. Only the Fukushima chiefs could be that fucking stupid...
That was all too easy. Next time, give me a tougher one.
Out of curiosity, the closet you've come to a nuclear reactor would be?
There are identical GE designs in the US, and you're forgetting that GE designed them with the fuel pool ON TOP of the reactor - what could possibly go wrong?
When the customer demands something that clearly puts the public's safety at risk, the professional says "no" to the customer.
Unless the price is right. Duh.
No. That's what professionalism is all about.
Perhaps that is an easy one but you completely dodged the question.
How do you clean it up? In all your pompous posts you have not once suggested a one iota of useful ideas to that end.
GE just writes that cocksucker Obama another check and forget about it.
God almighty, what a mess.
And after 4 years our little speck of dust may well be lost due to human stupidity mainly composed of equal parts of ego, greed and mostly pure sloth, What a sad commentary for this arrogant species.
One wonders how many other civilizations?? have expired befor Earh gives up in futility of self created suscide. Milestones
Japan is poisoned.
Bullshit, the prevailing currents fuck California the worst
My fear is the Californians migrate to Florida......they don't want to be here & we don't need 'em here
Don't worry concealed carry scares the shit out of them they won't come.
San Diego Co. is open carry.
Nobody here wants palmetto bugs, cockroaches and dengue, so don't worry.
The vast majority of people around the world don't know, don't care and can't extend their logical thinking out to a point where the actual extent of the disaster can be comprehended. There are not enough details and what is known, is over the head of the vapid population that exists for the most part.
But I know that three molten or semi-molten cores not in containment is a giant cluster fuck. And we have how many nuclear power plants and used rods sitting around the world, waiting for the great disconnect that cuts all power (and cooling) to those fuel rods? If we get hit by a Carrington Flare, we won't have to worry about anything but how quick we perish.
We are far past the time of dilly dallying with religious rights or racial shootings or even dare I say, Kardashians? We are to the point where if we don't figure out how to get a handle on the way we are screwing ourselves, we don't stand a chance in hell of seeing the 22nd century. Zero Hedge's time line may be closer than we think.
Carrington event is not a possibility but a certainty.
The only question is will it be next week or many years away.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859
And to think the elites of the world want to unleash WW3 or some other population reduction program. Who is going to run the nuclear reactors around the world and take care of them if their is a global calamity? They think they are going to go to their private islands or caves and think they are somehow going to survive a nuclear exchange followed by the melting of ALL of the worlds reactors and the spent fuel in all of the fuel pools burning into the bioshere?? The only solace is, they will all die too. Think you can live in a cave for a few thousand years? HAHA!!
I try to not think about it. There are no solutions. There are no Star Cruisers. There are no extraplanetary habitable options. The Pacific will die first. We failed our biosphere, there are no second chances. Human beings have no logical outcome other than extinction. All your base are now belong to us.
It remains unclear why they are turning up emaciated in such large numbers. But the surge in stranded sea lions has kept animal rescue teams busy.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/baby-sea-lions-beaching-themselves-in-record...
I wonder what the cause is ... mmm....
Sea lions realise they wouldn't be taken to Moon and Mars bases...
and us heads in sand group...pity us.
They've been fucking things up since this disaster started since they refuse to admit how bad it really is. The Soviets did more and better in six months with a very badly designed reactor, but the USSR actually gave at least enough of a damn to ask for help instead of covering their ass and pretending it wasn't a big disaster.
They are the most arrogant people on the planet - refuse to openly discuss anything. Silence = coward. They are almost as self-destructive as the muslim fanatics. The gunnys had to shoot them dead even if wounded after their suicide charges - they refused to surrender even when all was hopeless to any person with a functioning brain. They need to be erased before they kill us all by polluting the planet. Remeber they are building more nuke reacters and opening the ones they closed after fuki-fuckup. They are the worst - just look at their financial engineering - human stupidity and arrogance to the nth defgree.
Some of our realtives just returned from Japan and they had only glowing reviews!
They've fucked us all right.
And in todays most popular news:
VIDEO: Sofia Vergara Has To Buy Bras Designed For StrippersWe are SO fucked...
Tick Tick Tick....
Too late.
Sofia has atomic tits, told you so.
Here's the link to the SV story!
http://www.independent.ie/videos/style/video-sofia-vergara-has-to-buy-bras-designed-for-strippers-31130041.html
And to think...200 years ago, bras hadn't even been invented! HUMANS CAN DO ANYTHING!!!!
OK - yes I clicked on the link. I'm going to justify it on it was an exploration of containment possibilities. Wow.
No need to justify anything, brother ... simply beautiful, natural art!
Colombian women, heaven and hell all wrapped up in one package... Don't ask me how I know...
Athletes at the Tokyo Olympics will need radiation badges.
"She's absolutely GLOWING, despite losing the event."
They could hand out medals made from lead , by the time they leave they will have changed into gold.
Good one!!! A little gallows humor never hurt anyone!