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Iran Dictates "Deal" Conditions To Obama, Demands All Sanctions Lifted On "Same Day"
If there was any confusion whether Iran thought it had gotten the best of John Kerry and the Obama administration as a result of the non-deal April 2 "framework" announcement for some future possible deal, it can be swept away following a Reuters report that Iran will only sign a final nuclear accord with six world powers if all sanctions imposed over its disputed atomic work are lifted on the same day, President Hassan Rouhani said in a televised speech on Thursday.
In other words, Iran is now dictating conditions to Obama, something it would not consider doing if it thought it did not had the leverage, or if it actually cared about how said negotiations ultimately conclude.
From Reuters:
"We will not sign any deal unless all sanctions are lifted on the same day ... We want a win-win deal for all parties involved in the nuclear talks," Rouhani said.
Since the preliminary agreement was reached, Iran and the United States seem to have different interpretations over some issues, including the pace and extent of sanctions removal.
"Our goal in the talks (with major powers) is to preserve our nation's nuclear rights. We want an outcome that will be in everyone's benefit," Rouhani said in a ceremony to mark Iran's National Day of Nuclear Technology.
And just in case his speech may have been lost in translation, here again, for the benefit of John Kerry, is Iran's presidential assessment of the winners and losers in the Lausanne negotiations.
"The Iranian nation has been and will be the victor in the negotiations."
Iran insists all nuclear-related United Nations resolutions, as well as U.S. and EU nuclear-related economic sanctions, will be lifted immediately once a final accord is signed.
But the United States said on Monday that sanctions would have to be phased out gradually under the comprehensive nuclear pact.
The U.S. and EU sanctions have choked off nearly 1.5 million barrels per day (bpd) of Iranian exports since early 2012, reducing its oil exports by 60 percent to around 1 million barrels a day.
"Our main gain in the talks was the fact that U.S. President Barack Obama acknowledged that Iranians will not surrender to bullying, sanctions and threats," Rouhani said.
"It is a triumph for Iran that the first military power in the world has admitted Iranians will not bow to pressure."
So why the sudden surge in perceived negotiating leverage by the middle eastern nation? Well, the full backing of Russia and China may have something to do with it, just as we explained in the hours leading up to the non-deal announcement, and as was confirmed overnight with a report (more shortly) that China is about to build a pipeline from Iran to Pakistan to deliver Iran's massive resources that much closer to Beijing.
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Obama the little bitch takes it with a smile as long as you are not an american conservative tax payer..
You can have my answer now...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfeHKGvcEUg
Obama has finally been exposed as a Kenyan, Muslim foreign student covering loans to an American University Degree.
Dude...shhh!
Bacon Bombs Bitches!
Why the hell is Iran such a big damn problem now? They have been 3 months away from getting the bomb for 2 decades.
Now every single damn morning I turn on the radio I hear some local radio host interviewing yet another Zionist who has a book out about how Iran is going to do X,Y, and Z.
Like seriously, come on. I understand that they control all the media, but can we sometimes get something local?
If the USA would just STFU and quietly sink into irrelevance the world would be a much nicer place.
As it is now I get to see pics of poor kids in Syria surrendering to a camera due to the USA's need to exert some kind of "influence" in this world.
pods
Because someday finally gets here?
Iran is the red-herring du jour.
So nice to know that we have successfully built-up china to the point that they are now able to openly work against US interest.
just another reason for 160 billion dod increase, yea increase. also a distraction from the slow fluid suck of the lamprey bankers...
Just wait for ISIS.
Tyler1: We are losing the old man republican fanboy demographic of zerohedge readers.
Tyler2: Don't worry I'll just write another obama hitpiece editorial to appease 'the butthurts' faction. It won't be hard I'll just say they are right and that obama sucks, they'll love it.
Tyler1: Great idea , I'll scour the conservative blogs and find us an unfunny cartoon that is inaccurately, as well as inconsistently critical of obama.
Tyler2: Excellent, the butthurts will be walking funny for a week, they'll love it.
Because someday finally gets here?
Pretty good article on the differences in the US / Obama / Kerry statement on the "agreement" vs the Iranian statements on what is agreed. Also includes some historical context relating to dealing with the Muslims.
Iran Fiasco: John Quincy Adams Knew Jihad, John Kerry Does Nothttp://pjmedia.com/blog/iran-fiasco-john-quincy-adams-knew-jihad-john-kerry-does-not/
I am so sick of fucking war
You can say that again. With all the constant small operations now combined with what we know of past wars, it really makes you loathe humans who seek any sort of authority position.
pods
Amen to that!
it could all be end in a nano second. take all those billions of wasted killing monies and keep it here(create less debt) and reach out to every ripped apart country and offer to help them return to what they desire...
and stop all foriegn aid. ha fucking ha, (pinched hard) oouch as i'm waking up from a ron paul woody dream...
I'm sick of war, that isn't really war....it's just trillion dollar high powered police actions which aren't nearly as effective as a good old fashioned war...which reduced the world population by a few hundred million. Not that I'm into death or anything...
You may be sick of war, but war is not sick of you.
"Why the hell is Iran such a big damn problem now?"
Because John Kerry, riding the wave of success in negotiatiating with the Iranians, is secretly lobbying for a Nobel Peace Prize and will soon announce he's running for President.
Can't Obama simply give him the one he found?
you get your nukes....don't sell your oil to China in RMB...force China to pay in US Dollars. that's the only deal that really matters.
We made them a problem. The US prefers to meddle overseas, where its waste of time and money (while enriching the chosen few) is not covered by the US press, and far less noticed by the public than when it meddles domestically. It's either waste billions here or there; there is easier. Fewer folks watching.
"We Kansas City Shuffled some folks."
Iran has a decent chunk of oil
If I were Iran, I'd get nukes as soon as I possibly could
it seems to be the only thing that stops our criminal ass
@pods - check out this article, if you havent already had a chance to do so -
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/04/07/iran-nuclear-energy-agreement...
Opps - I read down further and see someone already posted the link. Its a good article.
Yeah that's a great read. As an Amerikan it is difficult to step back and see just what this government has done, allegedly in our name.
pods
Israel, water,Hezbollah and Iran.
Reverse the order for your answer and to find the true agenda.
First, let me say the only reason the US cares about the Mid-east is oil. Control of that oil is not only an economic imperative, but political and military one as well to maintain global dominance. So this is the reason the US is involved, rightly or wrongly, wisely or foolishly.
Having said that, we now know a lot more about the Iranian program. The key to the concern is the amount of 20% enriched we know they have (IAEA has seen it) and the capabilities of their latest centrifuges (also seen by IAEA inspectors and disclosed publicly by Iran).
Combining these two elements results in a capability to rather quickly enrich the 20% uranium to 85% of higher, which is required for a working device. Assembling a "gun type" weapon is easy. This was the first US device (Little Boy), and the US was so sure it would work, they did not bother testing it but just dropped it on Japan. The second weapon was a much more complex "implosion" design that had the advantage of needing a lot less fissile material for the same effect, but is much harder to make and requires testing.
So, those nations who fear a Iranian nuclear capability, and there are many, fear Iran is on the threshold of being able to make a Little Boy type of device.
The problem then is that all the regional rivals to Iran will feel the need to have a nuclear device as well, and we end up having a lot of economically and politically unstable countries infested with violent messianic sects having nuclear weapons. No matter your views on the United States and or its current leadership, most people think this will not end well.
Obama's gambit to make Iran a regional partner of the US is probably doomed to failure, will make all Iran's adversaries fearful and seek their own nuclear capabilities and new security relationships, and invite regional meddeling by Russia and China to unknowable consequences.
I agree that control of oil is paramount to the US Petrodollar.
But 20 to 85 is no easy task. Especially when you have Stuxnet running wild in your controllers and Mossad blowing up anyone connected to the industry.
A gun type, or any "dropped" bomb is worthless as a deterrrent. Everyone knows this. Making something that will fit on top of a missile is the only thing that will scare Israel and or the US.
And who does this better describe, the USA or Iran?
pods
Respectfully, Iran. But the US does have Obama and all those that worship him, so the US is making progress to catch up.
Obama touches something else. Immediately turns to shit. News at 11.
eventually, one will conclude that he's either a harvard law review chair, but a complete moron......OR........his intention is to turn gold into excrement.
Same tired remarks that have gotten no traction the last 6 years, nor will get any the remaining 2.
If you're truly invested in the presidency, focus on what's to come after Obama. But if you're merely invested in complaining, carry on.
y3maxx
he may have been a mussel man
but he all jew now moshe
say hi to satan for me kleinfelt : )
Barack Obama is a Jew who celebrates Passoverhttp://hipsterjew.com/jew-obama/
Let me get this right . . .
Are they saying that one party to a negotiation won't agree to fill its part of an agreement unless all parties on the other side also agree to fullfill their obligations under it ?
How outrageous !
On the other hand - if I bought land owned by three people, I would require all three of them to sign over their interests before we had a deal and they got the money.
No, the Iranians are saying they want lifting of UN, US and EU sanctions before they need to follow through on their obligations on allowing enhanced inspections and sending their 20% enriched uranium to Russia. So, they get everything up front, but the other side has to trust Iran to deliver down the road.
It's kinda like saying "Give me the money for the house now, and I will allow you to send an appraiser and inspector in to take a look at it sometime latter."
They have allowed inspections for years.
No credible, solid evidence has been presented against their program, just unsubstantiated accusations.
Your analogy doesnt hold. At closing all parties to a land agreement fulfill their immediate obligations simultaneously (often with the assistance of a title company.)
Like in Ukraine, someone wants a war in Iran, - and theyre doing all they can to start one.
Remember Iraq's "weapons of mass destruction" ?
No, Iran has not allowed FULL inspections for years. They never have allowed them. As the article notes, Iran has no intention of allowing the full inspections now.
Augustus is correct. They have also constructed several clandestine facilities to further avoid inspections. These facilities have been discovered despite Iranian attempts to hide them. There could be other facilities we still do not know about. The IAEA has said, and recently, that Iran is not cooperative with inspections.
Agustus, see how when you state facts on ZH you get down arrowed. I find it very interesting.
This is stupid. I admit, it is what you expect from US cheap propaganda...
I'm making over $7k a month working part time. I kept hearing other people tell me how much money they can make online so I decided to look into it. Well, it was all true and has totally changed my life. This is what I do... www.globe-report.com
The saga continues
Iran will only sign a final nuclear accord with six world powers if all sanctions imposed over its disputed atomic work are lifted on the same day
Israeli fighter bomers fueling up....
Gotta kinda wonder what those guys are waiting for.
Being a parasitic nation, they would greatly prefer it if their hosts could be persuaded to do their fighting for them.
Whoever cast that down arrow is more than welcome to give the billions and nukes back.
Aren't they being bribed by the US to hold back? Same as the US is bribing Arab countries not to attack?
Yank the bribe money from all of those assholes and let them sort their shit out.
Ya know what is real disgusting? Arch progressive criminal moron Jimmy Carter bent over and spread butt cheeks for the murdering mullahs of Iran all those years ago. Basically Jimmy Carter installed Islamist tyranny in Iran.
Fast forward to arch progressive criminal birdbrain obombya who meddles with the murdering mullahs via crippling sanctions but then turns around, spreads his and Kerrys buttcheeks wide open for Persian goatfugger pleasure.
Looks to me like progressive tyrants like to bend over and spread em for some Islamic tyrants. Look what US has done in the ME, especially the last 6 years. Bloody murdering Islamist have taken over and hundreds of thousands have died.
I am in the zero intervention, zero aid to any of them camp. But I damn sure would not bend over and spread my ass cheeks wide for them murdering snackbarian rat goatfuggers like progressives want to.
Islam is not a religion, it is a political system, a very bloody, corrupt and tyrannic one. Painfully obvious. I guess that's why progressives love them some Islamist? Fellow travelers in tyranny!
Grimaldus
I wonder when we will get to see if Russian anti aircraft technology really is as badass as they say.
it is and so is their anti-missie shield .
Russia is not going to be attacked. Iran does not have modern anti air tech from Russia.
Putin CANCELLED a signed contract to sell missiles to Iran and Syria. Thus making them more vulnerable (see the results in Syria). Iran has for a long time had a lawsuit in international court against Russia.
Once Russia gets Iran to give away all the materials that concern the west the most (as they did to Iraq's chemical weapons and Syria's chemical weapons) Iran will be taken out after Syria is done. Russia will never give back to Iran what is being removed.
Recommend you learn something about combat payload radius of the tactical attack aircraft in the Israeli inventory, as they have zero medium or long range bombers. While at it spend a day reading about Iran's air defence system and its capabilities. They've been expecting a major air and naval attack from the US for the past 35 years, so it's a case of, "here's one I prepared earlier". And never forget that just prior to the Iranian revolution the Military forces of Iran had taken delivery of the very best air warfare and anti submarine ships the USN had in the 1970s, and the best fighters the USN had. In other words, they've been using cutting-edge advanced warships, aircraft and missile technology, for over 40 years.
Never forget that the Iranians plucked an RQ-170 out on the air, while it was on a recon mission over Iran and captured it intact, then deciphered its database and code. They have a sophisticated and clever military and technical capacity, and they have observed every Western and Israeli platform, weapon or tactic used for the past 35 years, up close, in every conflict. They intend to win in any war. Moreover, they believe they will win. Plus Russia, China and most probably Pakistan would back them up if it comes to blows with Israel. And we all know what else they can do if backed into a corner.
The best thing nuttyahoo can do is shut his gob and hope he doesn't trigger an IDF coup. It's clear IDF commanders are not happy with him, plus his electoral 'majority', was a minority. Likud won only 29 out of 120 seats in the Parliament and the Palestinian Party block won 14 Seats! Almost 50% of what Nutty's Party got!
Hardy a ringing endorsement for his rhetoric, policies, leadership or personal qualities, even among hardline zionists
"In other words, they've been using cutting-edge advanced warships, aircraft and missile technology, for over 40 years"
Surely this is sarcasm. All the combat systems the US sold Iran are no longer in service with any military I am aware of. 40 years? That's like a Foker dr. I up against an F-86 Sabre.
And the advanced warships (modified Kidd Class destroyers) were never delivered, by the way.
Finally, please do examine the combat radius of Israeli combat aircraft. The Israelis developed special fuel tanks for their aircraft and it is thought they have combat range to reach Iran. they have been planning to attack Iran for a long time, too, after all. Also, they have some air-to-air refueling capability, and don't discount the possibility they could refuel at a Saudi base either enroute, or on the way home.
Cuz Obammy is a JWO bitch.
Nobel Prize Committee is now utterly confused!
Mr Kerry now looks like both ends of a horse.
The Iran Nuclear Energy Agreement: Force Again Prevails Over Law — Paul Craig RobertsThe Israel Lobby and its associated neocon war criminals will block if they can the
nuclear energy agreement, worked out by Putin, Iran, and Obama, which has the promise of bringing to an end the US orchestrated crisis over Iran’s development of nuclear energy.
As a signatory to the nuclear weapons non-proliferation treaty, which Israel is not, Iran has the right under the treaty to develop nuclear energy. Iran, alone of all the signatories to the treaty, has had its rights under the treaty cancelled by economic sanctions imposed by the US and by the threat of a US military attack.
Neither US intelligence nor the International Atomic Energy Agency, which inspects Iran’s enrichment sites, has reported any sign of an Iranian nuclear weapons program for the past decade. Despite the absence of any evidence of an Iranian nuclear weapons program, the crazed Israeli government and its neoconservative agents, who represent Israel’s interests, not America’s, have almost driven the US to war with Iran over nuclear weapons as non-existent as Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction.
The nuclear energy agreement that has been reached eliminates any possibility of Iran diverting enriched uranium to a weapons program. Nevertheless Washington warmongers and the Israel Lobby are attempting to block the agreement with the argument that “Iran’s leaders cannot be trusted.”
The real question, however, is on what basis can Iran possibly trust Washington?
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/04/07/iran-nuclear-energy-agreement...
Yup, I would not see any program if not having access to it as well.
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/i/inte...
Seems to me that Saddam's nuclear program had some setbacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Opera
So a nuclear site wiped out in 1981 provides justification for destroying a country 2 decades later?
Iran is continually asked the equivalent of "have you stopped beating your wife."
You GD international meddlers need to find something better to do.
pods
Naw, Mr Pods, the Persians don't have the heart or means to reform their mullah based government.
We have a similar attitude here in the US.
The anarchy part is easy, the forming it into something you thought you wanted is the real heavy lifting.
Thanks for the wreath of international meddler, but it is undeserved, I am barely a local meddler, with a long memory.
The Iranians have been put to work like any other tool to be the bad guy.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1EODB_enUS535...
It is obvious that the Iranian Nuke program is to create a bomb, and they are using electricity generation and medical reasearch as cover. 22,000 centrifuges later we have the Nevel Chamberlyn team negotiating with the blood thirsty mullahs.
War is coming, and has been for quite a long time.
Arnold, I'll assume good faith. You've been misinformed.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/iran-nuclear-talks-remembering-the-israeli-...
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/mehdi-hasan/2012/03/iraq-nuclear-iran-...
http://mediamatters.org/research/2011/11/14/wsj-distorts-osirak-strike-o...
As a reminder:
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/02/brief-history-netanyahu-cr...
http://original.antiwar.com/smith-grant/2012/07/03/netanyahu-worked-insi...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-accuses-israel-of-al...
On a scale of 1 to 10, American negotiating credibility is zero.
along with its balance sheet
The other obvious question is how does the US get around the illegality of giving arms and financial aid to a country (Israel) who has not signed the Nuclear Non-proliferation Act, as outlined in that law?
No, the real question is: Why do the crazed Likud Zionists persist with this red herring argument?
Truth comes out...Obama is of Etheopian Jewish ancestry, deying his ancestry and preferring to follow in the steps of Hitler.
"Pigeon chess" is defined at Urban Dictionary as "having a pointless debate with somebody utterly ignorant of the subject matter, but standing on a dogmatic position that cannot be moved with any amount of education or logic, but who always proclaims victory." The term is generally used in conjunction with an explanation that it derives from the image of a pigeon engaging in a chess match by "knocking the pieces over, crapping on the board, and flying off to announce that it has won":
About sums up my interactions with most people outside of ZH.
pods
So did obama get this latest ultimatum while on the golf course, or while sucking the shit out of Reggie's ass? There's not much else he does, other than being a despicable pile of shit 24/7.
typical negotiation bluster... red meat for the folks back home... it's not June yet, expect changing tunes...
Sherwood Schwarz had it all figured out back in the 1960s... control vs. chaos... the problem is control is now defined as white privelege... maybe they should bring back the cone of silence.
I soooooo wanna fuck 99's brains out.
This will be great day for the empire , the next one
Never announce an agreement before you have an agreement.
Ummmmm........never mind.
We want a win-win deal for all parties involved in the nuclear talks," Rouhani said.
Arab mentality:
Choice level
Arab Them
1. Win Win
2. Win Lose
3. Lose Lose = armageddon
4. Lose Win = not an option
Arabs have never been slaves, anyone who thinks they will accept slavery does not know Arabs.
Yes, enough of them were enslavers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade
Yes, so were Americans, but I have just got to see how Zionists are going to teach mercurical Arabs how to become slaves.
My experience with Arabs from the old country (which is familial - my folks are immigrants from there) is that they don't culturally get the concept of win/win. They only win in their minds if you clearly lose, so option 1 never comes into play. Only options 2 or 3. You are absolutely correct that 4 will never be an option in their minds, because if they are going to lose anyway, there's no fucking way the opponent should be allowed to win, ever.
It is true that Arabs, like Americans, culturally do not get the concept of win/win with a weak negotiating partner, and will step over the line if presented with the opportunity. However they understand a balance of power and will work repectfully within that framework to coexist. Pakistan, similar middle eastern but not arab people, haven't nuked the world yet, arabs are no more insane than the next guy. What about the troublemakers who want to rule the world from their G_d ordained throne of deception? The average Arab in the street knows who they are and wants them out of their affairs, either directly or by proxy. This game is very far from over, there will be a balance of powers, each remaining in their own belief system while respecting the systems of others, or there will be perpetual chaos or worse. I think every culture is obligated to understand that, diversity will not be overrulled, its presence is ordained by the Most High.
. . . "or there will be perpetual chaos or worse"
Or? There most definitely WILL be perpetual chaos or worse. Everyone was so eager to get into this smaller world of instant info and knowledge of the world, and most people everywhere are cool with it and respect differences, but the power-tripping nutjobs (everyone, not just arabs) go fucking nuts now and rile people up with the knowledge and visual evidence that we live in a world where ... heaven forbid! ... heathens with different ways of life and of different beliefs also exist and worse yet, they are just 5 hours away by plane or 1 second with a click and they want to come here and contaminate us all with their treacherous ideas!
People in power everywhere are fucking nuts. Every.Single.One.Of.Them. And they are going to use that power to perpetually attack those with differing ideas. In the past the balance you speak of was maintained by the offset of distance. Today that offset is highly diminished, and tomorrow it will be virtually 100% gone, which means the days of perpetual chaos are here to stay ... that is until like-minded groups of people can board a space ship and put quite a few lightyears between themselves and those evil fucks of the "wrong" ideology. I'm not betting on that last part coming true any time soon enough.
funny - I';ve heard that mostly about Jews.
And people have been saying that about them for 2500 years.
ALL just "anti-Semites" of course.
but your thing as to Arabs is def true.
Iranians are not Arabs, Iranians are Persians.
Someone needs a basic lesson in geography/history.
Ok middle easterners then, don't drown in sematics. Technically "Americans" are more mongrelized than "Arabs". Thanks for the history and geography lesson although I didn't see any mention of Iranians specifically in my post.
Tch, tch, are these American citizen down arrows? The day will come when you will personally understand the effects of your (at least partially guided by external forces) geopolitical machinations as they blowback on yourselves personally. People everywhere, once they understand what is going on, like to keep what they own for themselves, not further fatten already fat foreign asses. Russia has been through the bullshit via the bolshevic revolution, and it didn't work out too well for them. Now its the next hosts turn, but things still aren't too bad as long as the EBT's keep coming, except when the occasional "security force" shoots one of your darks in the back and will undoubtedly be found unculpable. The machinery is already in place in the USSA, just waiting to be fired up at the right moment; lets see if the fat asses have the brains, balls and will to resist when their turn comes. You already have prison archipelago industries and kangaroo courts and are just waiting for the upgrade to the FEMA archipelago. Don't worry about Iran or the other middle easteners, you all have the ones from the "middle east" that matter the most warmly ensconced in your most sacred places. Let time be the judge of things, those of you who still have any semblence of a mind of your own might come to realize that living off the fat of the dispossesed is not a sustainable passtime, for anyone, anywhere, and always results in consequences.
A four year old wouldn't try to make a deal with a habitual on-the-record serial liar like Iran.
We need to remove Obama and his ilk now. He is driving us off a cliff. It's not even an option any more, he must go today.
Ok, now back to troll J on erusalem Post.
haha Iran owns USA.
Pretty much so far...
How would you know .... if the Iranians actually signed an agreement .... their signatures look like chicken scratches .... in the barnyard ?
Iran has been fucked over by the United States more than once, and what harm have they ever done us (yes, yes, I know they took hostages but we did put the Shah in place and he was BRUTAL). The fact that they still feel resentful and antagonistic because of OUR paranoia toward Tehran (ginned-up, for sure) doesn't surprise me. It's time to normalize relations with Iran; we need to be more pragmatic and we don't have to abandone all our principles. Unfortunately, Irseal is driving this diplomatic agenda and the Neocon press is going along for the ride... same old, same old.
It's already been decided by the Israelis that the U.S. next war will be with Iran, why put it off any longer, just do it already.
But the United States said on Monday that sanctions would have to be phased out gradually under the comprehensive nuclear pact.
Sure dear, and pigs can fly, just ask the Native Americans about Amerika's national "promises".Interesting how this is couched; "dictating conditions".
Iran is not even being allowed its rights under the non proliferation treaty agreements and yet Iran is dictating conditions to the P5+1.
What a total load of western propagandistic bullshit!!!!
This whole deal is stacked against Iran from the beginning.
I'm amazed at the compromises Iran has agreed to in order to get this agreement/treaty.
Lift the bloody sanctions!!!
And then there are the Netanyahoos (sp) and Cotton Brains, and both war parties of the U.S. house and senate.
If there is an agreement in the end; sign me flaberghasted.
War is coming; tighten your seat belts...
In other words, "ha ha, psych".
A recent Fatwa .... finally allows Muslims .... limited use of Western TP .... but, they still have to enter the bathroom with their left foot first .... and leave the bathroom with their right foot first .... and of course .... no stepping on cracks in the flooring ! Source: BareNakedIslam.com
When outdoors .... Muslims must wipe .... withree three round stones .... or three lumps of clay !
Yeah, but how do they police these things? You can just claim a shart attack, if they want to have a look.
Lets see how the spinless shit Obama responds to this very explicit demand. It will be nice to see him twist this "give in" into something that's a win for Americans when the reality is he'll be playing the patsy like he always does on the world stage.
Most forget that Iran now operates outside the U.S. Dollar hegemony system.The U.S. created what's there now when they overthrew Iran's King years ago.These guys in the State Department have been using drug money by the billions to insist on the American way worldwide.It's lunatic right wing neocons that think this way.Iran can sail a giant fleet of supertankers filled with oil to China and park them there anytime they want.They don't need the U.S. or Israel.Israel has never been subject to inspection.That's what's two-faced.
When Iran's leaders stop formeting their populace with phrases like "Death to America" and other such nonsense that has its roots in their death cult religion then maybe we'll be a bit more sympathetic to their "plight". If someone said he was going to murder me and my family and was looking to obtain the means to do so you think I'm just going to sit there and laugh it off and try to be friends with him?
Iran hasnt invaded a country in 200 years. Stick a passie in it to promote shutting up.
wow what a simple statement. you don't know jack shit what goes on over there as i can see you conveniently left out small details on each of the wars iran is involved in in some capacity. i won't bother trying to educate you.
The way I see it, "Death to America" is being shouted from the US Capital, with 90% of legislation that comes out of that place.
Especially since 1999 and the repeal of the Glass-Steagal Act.
Ah, but come on, it does say in the Talmud "And God said unto the Jews, you shall never have to be party to the Non-Proliferation Treaty."....So, can't argue with that really. It's God's will.
Smart move. Everyone knows Uncle Sugar only keeps his end of the bargain when it's convenient for him.
Iran agreed to everything which they were asked to do.
Of course the sanctions need to be lifted on the same day! ZH is starting to yell from both sides of its mouth...
Never has it been agreed all at once. That is retarded.
Does an agreement serve the purposes of those who would like to see Iran submit to the will of the puppeteers?
If the answer is no, why does anyone think that there will be an agreement?
Makes me wonder what the teleprompter response is going to be.
What will an un-stymied Iran do for oil supply?
Hmmm...Zeroes, prepare another Western Union care package for Vlad.
Now at least we know the start date of the war. Too bad I thought we had a chance of avoiding it this time.
sorry neville not this time. sometimes you just gotta call evil what it is. not that america is all exceptional and on the moral high ground but i'll take less evil over more evil kinda like every presidential choice during election time.
Maybe when warmongering neocons threaten to deep six the deal, the Iranians don't want the promise of "phased" sanctions lifting. It just another thing for the US to backslide on.
The Iranians have probably also figured out that this was the democrats in the Iraeli-Firsters' lobby plan all along.
Defensless citizens get shot by thug cops, defensless countries get bombed into the stone age.
I am sick of this shit.!
Well it aint stopping, so buck up buck-aroo
Jesus Christ. Jesus fucking Christ. I don't know what's worse, this article or the comments.
1) Obama isn't the one calling the shots. When are you morons going to direct your anger at the puppetmasters and forget the puppets?
2) Not a single commenter, not one, seems to understand what this is really about. This is a power play for control of the largest remaining reserves of cheap, easily extractable oil in the world.
3) Iran hasn't attacked anyone in how long?
popular headline stories draws popular crowds
try to look at it as a broader representation of the general population than the more technical articles. :-)
The only thing I would add to your list is that the Muslim world has interest free banks, which is generally a problem for the Bank of International Settlements.
They also have fee-free ATM withdrawals, which irks a banker somewhere I'm sure. They must be invaded so #JSIS or the US can reform their primitive ways!
I had no idea that AIPAC was writing propaganda as a ZeroHedge author,... must be the advertisement money. This sort of thing through Reuters is soup de jour as the process comes to a head, haven't you been listening to the AIPAC bought Senate? Even democrates have become part of the neonazi "Far Wrong" that Rand Paul has referenced. SERFS UP AMERICA!
They've had nukes. They have nukes. Everybody has nukes that ain't getting blasted. You need nukes to survive in today's world.
A PRESIDENT TRUMP WOULD BOMB IRAN BACK TO THE STONE AGE AND MAKE THEM BEG FOR A PEACE DEAL BY GETTING RID OF THEIR NUKE PROGRAM COMPLETELY.
Do you know what is amazing? The degree to which Jews have played everyone else. Some suffering from serious Stockholm syndrome might even admire them.
Here we have the Iranians announcing that they "will win" the negotiations (what country wouldn't say this to it's own people?) and butt-hurt Americans on ZH are proclaiming this evidence of BHOs Kenyan Muslim Fail-ness or whatever latest seed of faux-dissent against TPTB that was planted in their noggin by the Jews's media. Meanwhile, the underlying facts - you know physical reality - have been totally inverted by the Zio-narrative to perpetuate goy confusion. Iran can barely do shit - especially to the US, who would deserve it for the CIA coup foisted upon Iran. They don't have a nuke and aren't close. Iran DID sign the NPT and is playing by human planetary rules (unlike the chosenites). Bibi inserts himself into the US conversation, like he isn't some self-serving foreigner who represents a race of people who have only their own domination and interest at heart (not brotherhood or anything "shared" with Americans, other than a lush host to feast upon, so long QE8 can continue, I suppose). Israel DOES NOT sign the NPT and plays "wink wink" about their massive nuclear arsenal, the launch codes for which are under the influence of Israel's own set of Ovadia Youssef looking mullahs as well as "secular" semi-white looking people who have an ethnic ideology that has consistently torn through empires of various goy nations tossed into the trashheap of historical memory under the aegis "we are superior than the other humans, so fuck your 'rules'". And yet people actually believe this nonsense?
At best, Iran represents a counter-force to KSA. Even if that is what this really is about, it's none of the US's business and they should let these regional creeps play proxy war with each other. It hurts me to hear people blather on about this being evidence of somethiing about Obama being a failure - the failure preceded Obama by a few generations when the tribe got their hooks in.
You go Big Daddy - soak that turban with ghost pepper sauce and stuff it up the USA's and Israel's fat asses.....[My apologies for being so crude, but I have had it with this nonsense....]
We are working behinds the news media coverage to end the negotiations with these primitve subhuman iranian islamic cult worshiping vermin and just eradicate them. Problem solved, good lesson to the remaining islamic cult worshiping vermin.
Christians and Muslims need to unite against the Zionists and you're buying into the thesis that Muslims are "subhuman". Oh yah dude, you're defeinitely not the subhuman in the eyes of those who run the finance, banking, legal, university, and media systems. In fact, those people are just like you and have your interests in mind. Good luck with your new life in a bank in Stockholm.
I am not zionist, not a jew, not a christian.
You are another failed fool who is paranoid about jews, sees them in every shadow, responsible for all your failures and frustrations.
Am I? I just thought I was a guy living in Israel for the past 7 years who knows a bit more about reality - both Jewish and Islamic reality. ?? ????
Sorry about the question marks at the end of my statement, achi. ZH doens't support Hebrew characters. It must be those anti-semites lurking in the shadows.
Cocksucking KIKES who live in Israel shouldn't be allowed out of the country,. I would love to shoot a few of those pigs. especially the IDF goons.
unfortunately he is correct. unfortunately.
You are an ideal goy. I like you so much. Can you send your chidren to me?
I would enjoy sending you my adopted children but you would not - they include a Navy Seal, a Delta sniper, a "field agent", and two "independent contractors". They are not "sentimental" or sqeamish, especially the "independent contractors".
Don't care for their religion, but do agree with their opposition to USURY, which their faith makes clear.
By the same token, Mosaic Judaism and classical Christianity oppose it also, but we have seen Mammon-worshipping swine (who dare to call themselves 'Jews' or 'Christians') dance and weasel around that one for a hundred years or more.
Until real Jews and real Christians remove these rotten apples out of their midst, they are ALL contaminated. Or will be. END USURY NOW.
Why to wonder? 8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends, and all submit”
Get ready, Oblablama …
Stop! Science has uncoverd Gods Penis. This changes everything!
Good little white shoe harvard boys should NOT try to do serious business with orthodox jews or iranians. In fact maybe the iranians are worse than the super jews, cause they love fucking each other over, while the jews are at least somewhat loyal to their tribe. Come to think of it, the above now applies to DC also...
I'm not really following your comment. Orthodox Jews aren't really the problem...or did you not notice that "good little white shoe Harvard boys" are disproporationately non-orthodox Jews these days?
So after 20 years of crying wolf, years of repressive sanctions, at least 1 attempt at a coup, multiple murders of civilian scientists, the murder of Iranian troops helping to fight ISIS in Iraq ( at that state's invitation) deliberate mistranslations, and misrepresentation and warmingering by a heavily Jewish-and-Zionist media..... there is STILL noevidence of any current or recent effort by Iran to pursue a nuke... and after years of goalpost-moving and attempts at sabotage by various international Jewish/Zionist groups and national 5th column Jewish/Zio groups (in the US, Uk, Canada, France, etc.)....... the Iranians want to finally be free to do WHAT IT IS THEIR LEGAL RIGHT TO DO UNDER THE NPT ( which Israel, with HUNDREDS of nukes refuses to sign ).... and Iran is the cunt in all this?
The author of this article is, on this matter, neither well-informed nor objective.
And for the millionth time, no, Iran did not threaten to nuke Israel or wipe the country off the map by force of arms. they did suggest that a 'Jewish' state achieved largely by violent ethnic cleansing and theft, with a 20% Arab citizen population, and millions of.more indigenous Arabs under colonialist, apartheid occupation, seems a tad ... racist and unjust.
And they are right, but they are right in a way that challenges cherishee Jewish and Israeli myths, and have not yet learned either the merits of private central banking, or the inevitability of Israel's thousand year reich.
Iran did not thraten to nuke Israel or wipe it off the map. They threatened to "remove the zionist regime from the pages of history" - something that even some people in Israel support.
Keep speaking truth - don't let the manipulators invert reality or intimidate you.
Nobody talks about solving the Israel and permanent wars problem . The USA shoulg get rid of who controls the State deprtament andthe White House .
Have you ever considered nuking Tel AVIV ? There are immense advantages for the USA and mankind ..... no more wars for greater Israel , no more war in Ukraine , no possible war against Iran ,
Analize the pro and Cons in a detatched way , why are you going to war to protect who Nuked you ? ( 9/11 ) , who kills your presidents , who forces you to combat war for a greater israel , who attacked the USS liberty , who stores all the private conversations you have with your friends . Are you NUTS ?
My reccomandation is Nuke Israel soon ! Forget about Iran !
Did anyone notice the Deputy Secretary of State who was put in charge of the US line on Yemen (against Iran, btw)? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Blinken
Not only is he tribe, but he was a Senior Fellow at CSIS. Amazing that Jewish Neo-Con warmongers are still running US foreign policy and pea-brained goys here wanna blame Obama for being a Muslim. It's hilarious...but what do I know, as one of those peabrainers said earlier, I am just someone who sees Jews in every corner as a way of distracting from my own failures...or something. LOL
No - I'm an Ivy League trained attorney who has dwelt among these folks both in the centerse of power in the US and Tel Aviv. Call me whatever you want, but don't discount my touchstone to reality.
"I'm an Ivy League trained attorney"
You mean progressive obombatron assclown. Lunatic fringe, and in no way even close to reality.
Progressives are in charge, the progressive messiah obirdbrain himself directing the regime line on Yemen. How come you are not proud of that? Does the progressive stupid burn a little bit?
Embrace your progressive suck dude. You guys own it and no amount of blaming the progressive rino bush (neocons) will change the reality.
Grimaldus
Nuking the bloody tyrannical murdering shitstain of Islam from the planet would be a better idea. Would stop all the goat-rape overnight.
Grimaldus
iran is doing this
demanding that
close to this
not far away from that
bogeyman
bogey man
persian monster
tell me something rabbi rupert murdoch
who writes the joo news.
if all are news about israel came from iran and was framed by iranians
would we not have a slight skew into the jew negative
so then
why should we believe anything from the locked down rothschild controlled bbc,fox,ap,reuters
knuckleheads the rabbi has you by the pineal and sex glands
believe nothing not even the big titities juggling in front of you.
he was once called stan before the operation
remember what a frenzy you got into over msm ebola rocknrolla all for what
google advetising anal leticks
the black guy with the ebola green t shirt fake shot psy op on video yesterday
it was poorer than that site intel group rita katz caananite fake isis beheadings videos
and yet these pixelated iphone james holmes temporal illusions become your reality
critical tinking nahh no need mate saw the video init it real
these talmoo dicks sure know how to tickle goy sphincters yes sir
in the nuclear futures rabbi rupert murdochs will be added to the pages of the book heroes of hebrew histories
for his goy mule control work
does the cohen not make the finest human cattle wrangler
the lost kingdom of the khazars was never lost
it was always amongst us.
like cancer cell it feeds on weakness
Iran have been saying publically for some weeks, that all sanctions must be lifted in full and immediately for a deal, and that 'sanctions lifting' is the single biggest stumbling block for an agreement.
Iran shouldn't sign any deal with anyone. The goddam USA Nazis are not to be trusted EVER.
Never send a mooslim half breed marxist nigga to do a job you need done right. Not even sure that breed could pick cotton correctly.