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Dash Cam Footage Shows Moments Before Policeman Shot Fleeing, Unarmed Man

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Last weekend, a white South Carolina police officer shot a fleeing, unarmed black man 8 times in the back, further inflaming race relations in the country and raising fresh concerns about police misconduct. Now, the officials investigating the incident (which left 50-year old Walter Scott dead), have released the dashcam video from officer Michael Slager's patrol car which depicts the moments before Scott was killed.

Via NY Times:

The video begins with a traffic stop in a parking lot at an auto parts store. Officer Slager asks Mr. Scott for his identification and insurance paperwork. But Mr. Scott says that he has not yet purchased the vehicle — telling Officer Slager that he intends to do so soon — and that he does not have any documentation of insurance coverage.

 

Officer Slager, telling Mr. Scott “I’ll be right back with you,” returns to his patrol car. Mr. Scott soon emerges from his vehicle but returns to the driver’s seat at Officer Slager’s direction.

 

About 20 seconds later, though, Mr. Scott jumps from the car and flees on foot. Officer Slager follows, saying at one point, “Taser! Taser! Taser!” 

 

Perhaps a South Carolina lawyer who spoke to the Times put it best:

“If a guy runs, officers will chase him. But you can’t just shoot a guy.” 

 

 

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Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:02 | 5978076 Thirst Mutilator
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Make sure you use the proper resin to get the donut grease off your pistol fatty...

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:06 | 5978094 Headbanger
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Fucking horrible act to shot an unarmed man in the back when he's running away from you.

He could have easily shot him in the lower leg to knock him down.

It would have been a much safer shot to take anyway aimin so low.

Anybody know what the pistol was?

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:06 | 5978106 fascismlover
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Not when the goal is to cover it up.  People with leg wounds can still talk after.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:09 | 5978115 Headbanger
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What am I saying!?

The cop didn't even have to shoot him cause he had his ID from the car plates.

The police could have arrested him later

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:24 | 5978179 strannick
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What a chickenshit, taxpayer-funded, murderous weasel

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:29 | 5978222 Stackers
Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:54 | 5978319 BLOTTO
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Is their any chance (of course their is) that this was - a setup? - To incite more racial tensions.

.

Officer Michael T. Slager was looking (1:24min) directly at a guy recording him with video - so he goes and plants evidence?

Wouldnt you as a police officer say something or do something to the person just recording you 'murdering' someone? AND! then planting evidence.

What about how Walter L. Scott fell over as he got shot? Is that the normal way?

Where is blood?

Wouldnt you think with all these current high profile police events that the officer would show more constraint?

.

Think about it. Something is fishy...again.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:08 | 5978402 Government need...
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If this is a setup, it is to incite a far different response than racial tension.  This is an ugly example of a general theme: that of an all-powerful state reveling in the desecration of Constitutional (civil) rights.  No more due process?  Check.  No more presumption of innocence?  Check.  No more right to remain silent?  Check.  No more freedom from unlawful search and seizure?  Check.  Billions of rounds of mil-spec hollow point ammo for Fedcoat employees (IRS, USDA, Postal Service)?  Check.  Thousands of light tanks for municipal poleece departments?  Check.  SWAT teams called out for a shoplifter who stole $8 of merch?  Check.  

 

THEY ARE DARING US TO GIVE THEM HELL.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:52 | 5978512 chunga
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Two things I find strange...after watching it again...it looks like there is a passenger in the front seat. Does anyone else see that and why hasn't he/she said anything? Maybe I just missed it.

Also thought there should have been more of a reaction from the guy getting shot. He just went down at the end, but didn't seem to flinch from the other shots.

edit ok 3 things...the tail lights look fine. This video is better and says the passenger was detained and released.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POLQWpJFu4Y

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 11:57 | 5978953 Againstthelie
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Running away from police when it orders you to stop is begging for bullets.

This policeman should receive a medal for his feeling that something was fishy with the driver of the car.

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 12:03 | 5978991 Againstthelie
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Why are you downvoters identifying with people running away from police?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 12:09 | 5979019 chunga
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I'll speak for myself.

Actually, I think you're a troll because what you say makes so little sense. The cop, that you say deserves a medal, drops the taser on top of the dead guy with another cop standing right there.

How do you defend that?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 12:19 | 5979071 Againstthelie
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I understand that he knows he will get problems in a system that gives the criminals more rights than the decent citizens.

A good man like Michael Douglas in Falling Down.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 13:07 | 5979319 Squiddly Diddly
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"A good man like Michael Douglas in Falling Down."

God requires the official use of deadly force to comply with His justice, not street justice.  One cannot justify this officers action in this case as good.  I hope he gets a fair trial.  The victim had his trial, unfortunately. 

 

Rom 3: 10as it is written:

“None is righteous, no, not one;
11 no one understands;
no one seeks for God.
12All have turned aside; together they have become worthless;
no one does good,
not even one.
13“Their throat is an open grave;
they use their tongues to deceive.”
“The venom of asps is under their lips.”
14 “Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness.”
15Their feet are swift to shed blood;
16 in their paths are ruin and misery,
17and the way of peace they have not known.”
18 “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 13:20 | 5979362 winchester
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problem is why the nigga run....

if you flee from the police,  for a sugar stolen or a murder, you will get shot.

 

nigga run = nigga dead, but it is also tru for whitey, so stop the bs about rascism, anywhay  anybody hate everybody, if you write the opposite down my post, you fucking liar.

 

whatever the reason he flee....

when you are a man, you face your acts, any act have consequences, you cannot  fuck girl, flee, do not pay her maintenance for the child and keep struting in mercedes. end of discuss

 

and all downvoters who will click me you just fucking liars who hide your own mess under the carpet claiming 2nd chance.

no, i'm sorry, with 7 billion people if every body 2nd chance = 14 billion people, if you fuck your life,  die, let the slot for the next, we have enough problems on the hands atm.

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 13:38 | 5979470 Againstthelie
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Correct. What the brainswashed White sheeple here do not understand is the fact, that the scum would not even dare to run away, if it knew, that after the first warning shot, the police will shoot sharply.

When I was a child, it still was normal practice, that the police, after calling you to stop, gives one warning shot and if you do not stop, it will shoot at you.

But then cultural Marxism and White genocide with it's RACISM came and begun to turn things upside down: the police is evil and the scum running away has teh right to do so. That the scum that runs away tomorrow will harm other innocent people, does not exist in cultural Marxism, because people ar enot criminal. The society makes the criminal. We all know this Jewish garbage to destroy the White societies.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:28 | 5979935 tdag
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"The first of the Supreme Court rulings that still govern law enforcement policies nationwide on the use of deadly force is Tennessee v. Garner. In the 1985 case, the court concluded that police officers could not shoot at a fleeing suspect simply to prevent their escape. They could shoot, however, if they had probable cause to believe the person was a violent felon and posed a significant threat of death or serious harm to the community."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/current-law-gives-police-wide-lat...

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:08 | 5980104 Againstthelie
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They could shoot, however, if they had probable cause to believe the person was a violent felon and posed a significant threat of death or serious harm to the community.

You forgot to bolden the second important sentence.

So even today it still is allowed to shoot at fleeing suspects, while here the mob believes, this was murder. BS.

The leftist brainwashing of evil police is sickening.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:07 | 5980367 Sweet Chicken
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And what exactly was probable cause to believe he was a significant threat of death or serious harm to the officer or other citizens? I'm sorry but fleeing a traffic stop, resistin arrest, assaulting an officer, and then fleeing are not probably cause to believe he was a significant threat of death. You are the fucking zombie not those who can see this for what it is. 

Eat a bag of dicks. 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 13:42 | 5979484 Sanity Bear
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fuck your evil god and you too

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 13:46 | 5979503 Againstthelie
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That is no answer to my simple question.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 12:06 | 5979007 Againstthelie
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Why are you downvoters identifying yourself with people running away from police?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 12:08 | 5979016 Government need...
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Agree, the cop deserves some metal.  Steel, lead, or tungsten.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 12:23 | 5979088 Againstthelie
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Cops in the multicultural paradise of JewSa already catch lots of bullets. You are just begging, that the last decent cops that try to get the scum from the streets will stop doing it.

You deserve a judicial system that gives all rights to the criminals and demands from the decent ones to tolerate everything.

The scum has all your understanding but the decent people must follow strict rules.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 13:10 | 5979332 TheReplacement
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We deserve a judicial system where all rights go to citizens, criminal or not.  For instance, the right to bear arms so citizens can protect themselves against criminals.

I don't see where we need all the cops that need more rights than the citizens they are supposedly serving and protecting.

How exactly did this cop protect that citizen?  Cops are supposed to be associated with justice.  Where is the justice in shooting someone in the back and planting evidence?

Should the same happen to you in a slightly different racial scenario? 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 13:58 | 5979543 Againstthelie
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Only a few decades ago it was good and NORMAL practice only Communists criticized in the Western world (not in Moscow!), that the police shouts once that you should stop, then a warning shot into the air and the next shots, if you do not stop, will be aimed at the one running away!

How brainwashed must someone be to believe that police must run faster than a criminal to catch him?!?

This police officer protected YOU and ME by doing what has been perfectly legal for centuries, before White genocide and cultural Marxism devastated the White societies and obviously your brain.

He shot a criminal that was running away despite being ordered to stop!

A mentally healthy society would give this police officer a medal for his excellent sense, that something was fishy with that driver of the car. But instead the brainwashed demand, that criminals are allowed to run away from the police and the police should not be allowed to do anything, except playing catch me if you can.

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 14:11 | 5979620 Bunders
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"He shot a criminal that was running away despite being ordered to stop!"

I'm pretty sure he shot a suspect.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 14:32 | 5979724 Againstthelie
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If suspects have the right to run away then criminals have the right to run away too, because if they are criminals, can only be judged at court. What a stupid comment.

The point is, that the enraged but brainwashed mass (congrats NYT, an excellent disinfo stunt!)  demands, that criminals shall have the right to run away because police stopping them from running away was murder.

Incredible how stupid people are. TPTB will succeed.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:38 | 5979993 daveO
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Anything out of the NYT is 'suspect', never let a good crisis go to waste. Murder reduced to manslaughter, IMO. About 2-3 years jail time.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 13:10 | 5979334 Government need...
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Your 'cops are great guys protecting citizens' canard is so . . . 1890.  It would be lower taxes and MUCH higher freedom to return to every citizen packing and working through their conflicts without '911' access to the stormtroopers.  

Get this through your head:  I dont need a dipshit with a '00' status to make-believe they are 'protecting' me from the bad guys.

I can shoot straighter than the cops, and I can take ruthless and cunning to a level commensurate with my physical and cognitive capabilities.

I demand something other than the 'justice theater' we see everyday in courtrooms throughout the USA.  I'd prefer a rule of constitutional law, but i'll take Wild West over the status quo.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:50 | 5980021 daveO
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It's the women's vote that created the police state (for your protection!) over the last 100 years. It's also the women's vote that got Scott killed. He owed child support. 

http://www.wfmynews2.com/story/news/crime/2015/04/10/no-warrant-issued-f...

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 20:48 | 5980982 Government need...
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Agree, the weaker are more easily co-opted.  Women tend to be tasked with single-parenthood duties and be less insistent about their salary/picking a job for its earnings.  This makes them financially weaker so . . . they turn to the welfare state.  Women are less violent than men, so the State has effectively marketed itself as the force for good that will keep them and their kids safe.  This is ironic, given the # of errent rounds capped off by the coppaz.  You'd think the women would experience fear with all the troopahs capping off rounds. . . Or fear for their children, who the troopahs might start shootin' @.  It is an interesting duality.  As we get further down the tyranny path, I suspect more women will regret their love of state 'power' projection.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 12:52 | 5979251 Bunga Bunga
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The rest of the world hates America because of people like you. You are respectless and have a deeply inhumane mind. Too many people like you are in charge of the country and that is the problem. All decent Americans must wake up. 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 13:23 | 5979396 winchester
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All decent Americans must wake up


 

extinct race, you are outnumbered  with mexicans, blacks, apple fanboy and blacks.

 

 

 

did i enumerate black already ?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 13:59 | 5979490 Againstthelie
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But, but, but libertarians believe they were sooo anti-establishment... ;-)

The NYT Jews probably are laughing their asses off, how the stupid white Goyim are attacking a police officer that caught a criminal. I already can hear their discussions: "Is it already the right time to demand quotas for Blacks in prisons to fight this racist judicial system?"

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 12:36 | 5979170 Dark Space
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It was the tiny middle tail light (the officer says so in the dashcam) that was out - his regular tail lights are working fine. Not sure why we should be using public tax dollars for something like that in the first place, but that is what he said.

 

I've shot animals that did not flinch. Others hopped around in death throws and bled everywhere. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 14:34 | 5979536 chubakka
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saw that too.   

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:08 | 5978408 Buzz Fuzzel
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If you watch the shooting video closley you will see a brief physical altrecation between the officer and Scott.  The legal term for that is assault on a police officer.  This does not justify shooting Scott in the back after he turned and ran but it goes a long way to explain the shooting.  The race hustlers will calim this was a racist cop shooting an innocent non threatnening black man.  There is more to it than that.

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:13 | 5978426 Government need...
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Negative.  This is murder.  And some cop somewhere else in the country is going to get dead as payback.  And I'm going to celebrate when it happens.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:26 | 5978478 Calmyourself
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Hey asshole they, cops are individuals, not saying  this cop did not murder this man, he did..  Your going to cheer other cops murders, to each their own cog diss asshole.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:46 | 5978572 Government need...
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I hope your loved one is the next to be murdered at the hands of a nice friendly neighborhood pig.  You sit at your computer thinking all is well in Murrica as other people get murdered by tyrants.  You are the asshole.  Drop dead.  Or run from a thugcop.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 12:36 | 5979165 Calmyourself
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Asshole; never said that clown.   I think all is well huh, is that what I think.. Your a clown..

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 13:12 | 5979346 Government need...
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You got anything more than name-calling, there esse?

I mean, a thought, an argument . . . anything?

Fuck off . . . go whack-off a pig.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 13:47 | 5979491 A Nanny Moose
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A) False dichotomy.

B) Initiating force is not going to solve a damned thing. The initiation of force it precisely how we got here. Surely you are not suggesting that people initiate violence against each other? If so, this man's blood is on YOUR hands. As will be the blood of future victims of violence.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 14:11 | 5979618 Againstthelie
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So how do you suggest that police shall catch criminals if they are not allowed to shoot them, if they do not follow the orders to stop running away?

Are you really that stupid that you do not recognize what your demands mean? That criminals only must run away and they are safe, as long as they run faster. In what la la fantasy Hollywood world are you living?

You deserve that the police stops doing their job that you LEARN the hard way, what you are demanding!

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 12:32 | 5979150 FIAT CON
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There is alwys a double standard!

 when one citizen or five do something wrong we all lose our rights! because they always let a few bad apples ruin the freedom of the rest.

BUT WHEN IT HAPPENS WITH COPS, THEY ALWAYS SAY DONT LET ONE COP RUIN IT FOR ALL THE OTHERS!

Well im sorry to say that it does and it will. so this is the new normal, cops had better be good and the good ones better weed out all the bad ones, cause things are changin.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:53 | 5980049 daveO
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When cameras are outlawed...

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:34 | 5981070 FIAT CON
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A down vote! you are either a troll or a trolling Cop. 

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:27 | 5978484 Buzz Fuzzel
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You need to take a deep breath and have another look at what I said.  Yes it is murder but there is more to it than most are seeing. 

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:44 | 5978564 Government need...
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I'll say it again.  A tyrant gettin' dead is a good day.  Let freedom and justice ring.  I will celebrate the next pig getting dead.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:52 | 5978607 RECISION
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No there isn't.

Police needs must be held to a higher standard of behaviour.

They are NOT issued a firearm in order to impose their personal authority.

It is for personal defense, and defense of the public in life threatening situations.

To draw your sidearm and shoot someone in any other circumstances ergo becomes much more than a "neglegant discharge" (look up the military definition of that) and becomes a premeditated discharge (ie, unlawful shooting).

And even the cops are subject to that legality.

Regardless of "provocation".

THIS, is the definition of - Trigger-Happy.  

(an American affliction, ya'all watch too much stupid TV)

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 12:15 | 5979050 Againstthelie
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'Police needs must be held to a higher standard of behaviour.'

The problems is not that he was shot. The problem is, that running away from police is NOT seen as begging for bullets!

Just follow their orders and you will be fine. But running away should catch everyone a few bullets. Case closed and lots of taxpayer money saved.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 13:13 | 5979351 TheReplacement
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What is your badge number Officer Eichman?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 14:05 | 5979575 Againstthelie
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Ah, the raycisst card.

Are you aware what the conclusion is of your demands?

That police may not shoot at fleeing people that were ordered to stop and even run away after a warning shot.

Interesting position to demand that the criminals shall have the right to run away and the police may do nothing against it, except playing catch me if you can.

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 14:34 | 5979740 Libertarian777
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follow their orders and you will be fine...

 

don't follow their orders and they have the right to execute you? even when cuffed and immobilized on the ground like in Oakland?

 

I wish the founding fathers 'followed their orders'... the King was the legal and rightful authority. What were Jefferson and them thinking. The fools! They should have been arrested for not respecting the King's authority.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 11:08 | 5978688 Lewshine
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Buzz, it's idiots like you who create the 50 shades of grey that circumvent and pervert every reasonable thing in our culture. This was nothing but high handed MURDER you fawking dimwit!! 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 14:28 | 5979706 Libertarian777
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where's the COP ASSAULTS CIVILIAN first?

jsut because a civilian is verbally non-compliant, does NOT give a cop a right to initiate force with a taser.

He was not a violent criminal on the run where force was necessary to prevent injury/death to others. It was a traffic stop.

 

I think people watch too much TV in this country. SWAT is supposed to be for active shooter situations only. Even in the case of hostage situations negotiators are supposed to just wait it out, until the perp gets tired and then gives up. Instead they give you 10-12 hours and storm the building and kill people. That is a military tactic, not a police tactic. In fact the SAS embassy siege, they were waiting for DAYS, and only took action once they shot 2 hostages.

This mentality now runs through police departments. Immediate Action is ALWAYS required.

In this instance even if the cop was too damn lazy to give chase, there were a lot of alternatives, instead of 'immediate action'

1. impound the car

2. speak to his friend

3. take his prints from the car and find out who he is

4. just wait by the car, highly likely he would have returned to it.

5. call other cops to look out for him in the area

6. Find where he lives and pay him a visit (without a SWAT team) and wait for him to come home. Why escalate with violence?

shooting him, even with the taser is only required when he is physically assaulting someone. Using a taser because a civilian talks back to you even with 'contempt of cop' is NO justification for the cop to use force.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 14:38 | 5979756 Againstthelie
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So you are demanding that the police has no right to stop criminals from running away.

Why escalating. Why not visit them at home. Maybe with some crackers and tea? And no loud word, that could escalate the situation!

Jesus, the dumbing down is complete.

TPTB have won.

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 02:43 | 5981492 RECISION
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When did running away become a capitol offense punishable by the death penalty?

Is a peaceful "Sit-In" protest punishable by death also.

Who decides what actions, the police officer doesn't like, are punishable by shooting multiple times???

Is flipping an officer the bird punishable by shooting as well?

Actually, what we are saying is that if a suspect (not yet proven quilty in a court of law - and therefore deemed innocent, until proven quilty - not the officers job by the way) is running away, then the officer is entirely within their right to apprehend/stop them.

Just, NOT by shooting them.

That is actually ILLEGAL.

And a crime... even for a police officer.

There - does that explain it clearly enough for you?

Pinhead.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 11:24 | 5978782 Chumly
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Hey Blotto,

My theory is that the leprechaun "was castin' a shadow from one limmmb..." What do you think?

Take another bong hit and get back with us, okay?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 12:28 | 5979128 Againstthelie
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I had the same feeling, when I saw the slow motion and the zoom, when the policeman drops something. The picture in the zoom is perfectly sharp and stable, while the whole movie had a much worse resolution and because of the shakyness doesnn't show sharp contours.

 

I agree, this could indeed be made up. A system that can kill the president with a magic bullet, 9/11, Irqs WMDs, Golf of tonkin can only do this with the help of the MSM. And the NYT is a leading MSM propaganda tool for the Western regime. If a newspaper can be trusted, it's the Jew York Times.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:05 | 5978391 Cap Matifou
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He couldn't ID him, because he had no ownership papers and insurance on the car.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:09 | 5978411 Government need...
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Ok, then.  Whew.  I was worried for a second that the cop murdered the guy.  All good.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 12:11 | 5979038 Againstthelie
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Indeed good. One criminal less.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:24 | 5978470 schoolsout
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Wasn't his car...couldn't provide insurance.  Claimed he was going to buy the car.  That part doesn't add up, but not an excuse to shoot the guy.

The audio from Cop to HQ is all out of whack, too.  He claimed the perp was 20s to 30s...

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 12:10 | 5979029 Againstthelie
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Arrested and immediately freed by a legal system following cultural Marxism.

One criminal less. Who knows, how many decent people would have fallen victim to him in the next decades.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 14:03 | 5979573 Abaco
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Just to be clear - you are talking about the cop right?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 14:13 | 5979632 Againstthelie
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You call it murder, if police shoots after ordering a suspect to stop and after they make a warning shot.

So you demand that criminals are allowed to run away and the only way to stop them, is running faster.

Idiot.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:11 | 5978125 EscapeKey
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But will the court weigh the argument of a civilian above that of a cop?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:13 | 5978130 Jethro
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It isn't the testimoney of a civilian, it is the testimoney of an unbiased video.  The LEO is screwed, because what he did is indefensible.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:18 | 5978141 EscapeKey
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you're missing the point.

the cop clearly wanted to cover it up. had he had his way, there would be no video evidense of the act - if so, why even attempt to cover it up. had it come to a court case - with no video evidense available (no doubt the dashcam would break in retrospect) - it would essentially be shot-in-leg-man civilian argument vs cop argument.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:20 | 5978164 jbvtme
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a fellow hedger pointed out this might be a false flag as a precurser to federal control of local police. the guy who filmed the event was quoted on nat'l tv saying you are accountble for wrong decisions, essentially parroting the exact words of the police chief of the shooter.  sounds like abe zapruder just happened to be in the right place at the right time...

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:30 | 5978234 chunga
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If true that shouldn't come as a huge surprise...the MSM news cycle is presently focused on cops killing or beating right now.

To me drudge is just another msm thing and it's got a bunch San Bernadino sheriff's beating the fuck out of some guy with a helicopter hovering right overhead. You can see the guy get tazed, then he falls down and puts his hands behind his back. Instead of cuffing him they just start wailing away.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Man-on-Stolen-Horse-Stunned-by-S...

In the two minutes after the man was stunned with a Taser, it appeared deputies kicked him 17 times, punched him 37 times and struck him with batons four times. Thirteen blows appeared to be to the head. The horse stood idly nearby.

 

The man did not appear to move from his position lying on the ground for more than 45 minutes. He did not appear to receive medical attention while deputies stood around him during that time.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:51 | 5978332 max2205
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He should be tried in Utah 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:51 | 5978335 Bone Nower
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As pointed out yesterday, where is the gunsmoke and where is the recoil? Both are MIA.  

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:51 | 5978336 Bone Nower
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As pointed out yesterday, where is the gunsmoke and where is the recoil? Both are MIA.  

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:31 | 5978237 BandGap
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How does the officer explain up to eight bullet holes in the guy's back, regardless of a video?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:58 | 5978631 Memedada
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He doesn't have to. SOP. Next case.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 14:17 | 5979654 Againstthelie
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How should in your opinion police stop suspect criminals from running away? By running faster?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:53 | 5978613 Jethro
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I didn't miss anything.  It's all right there in the video.  We can all watch it thousands of times if we want.  What part of "indfensible" doesn't apply to the LEO's handling of this situation?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:18 | 5978151 StychoKiller
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Which is probably why so many LEOs aren't too keen on wearing eyecams.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 14:19 | 5979664 Againstthelie
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What did you see?

I see a suspected criminal ordered to stop and ignoring it. Ignoring also the warning shot.

Are you of the opinion, that criminals shall have the right to flee?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 14:32 | 5979732 Nemo DeNovo
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Yeah 'suspected criminal' for failure to pay child support, so now not paying your baby-momma is a capitol offence?  People like you make me ashamed for ever being in service.  I can only hope that someday karma finds you and lets see what kind of shit you talk then.  EVERYONE deserves DUE PROCESS, everyone period or in your book does the Constitution no longer apply?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 14:44 | 5979766 Againstthelie
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You are effectively demanding that criminals have the right to run away because every criminal first is only a suspected criminal.

Talking about the constitution? Where is stated, that suspected criminals have the right to run away and the police may only run faster to catch them? Are you all gone completely insane?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:19 | 5978156 jbvtme
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moved

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:49 | 5978311 mtl4
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If there was a justice system you'd be right, but it's now just a bought and paid for legal system so watch out when this guy's acquitted.......major racial violence for sure!

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 20:46 | 5980974 Slomotrainwreck
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They're trained to unload the clip

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:07 | 5978108 NoDebt
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That was an execution, period.  I watched all the video that's out there and I got the feeling the cop just didn't feel like running the guy down on foot a second time so he just unloaded on him.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:23 | 5978184 Dr. Engali
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Yep, it's fucking sickening. The cop needs to be executed in the same manner.  

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:41 | 5978287 petolo
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I'll volunteer for the gauntlet.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:11 | 5978417 Government need...
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The correct response is for a CWP-carrying citizen to witness this type of murder, draw, and put one thru the murderer's head.

Fuck the murderous pigs.   

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 14:22 | 5979676 Againstthelie
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Are you really of the opinion, that criminals shall have the right to ignore orders and run away?

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 03:43 | 5981516 Memedada
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I'm of the opinion that "who is a criminal' is not defined by the cop ( or you), but by the law ( a judge/jury).

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:28 | 5978217 Seek_Truth
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Another disturbing video just out- the donut gestapo beat a horse thief- every one of them has to get in a few punches and kicks even though the guy is laying face down and handcuffed:

http://gawker.com/san-bernardino-sheriffs-deputies-caught-on-camera-atta...

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:36 | 5978255 Dr. Engali
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Fuckers will get away with it too.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:51 | 5978334 Thirst Mutilator
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It's time to start bring a mean ass dog with u wherever you go...

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:19 | 5978448 Government need...
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It's going to take more pigs getting dead.  A straight-shooting citizen is going to need to put one thru the head of a murdering pig right after he murders (or beats) a citizen.  It will happen.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:29 | 5978489 Calmyourself
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Batt5 professional provocateur...

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:43 | 5978552 Government need...
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I call it like I see it.  And I try to shoot straight.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:52 | 5980712 COSMOS
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Horse thieves were hanged in the West.  The guy got off lucky.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 13:28 | 5979429 Againstthelie
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Don't worry, it's coming to a cinema near you soon enough.

Cultural Marxism praying Blacks were innocently jailed and Whites were the reason that they have multitides more inmates than Whites and Asians is teh guearantee, that this bomb will explode.

 

Only fools believe to be protected by a gun. When the multicutlural paradise will explode then police will no longer be there to protect the asses of your girls. Then you stupid waeapon fetishists will learn, that going out on the street for women is deadly. That the night is deadly. That making everyday shopping is deadly. Enjoying leisure, cycling, jogging? Then you will recognize all that was only possible, because there was a police that removed th scum from the streets. But then it will be too late, White idiots.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:50 | 5978320 Oldwood
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As sad and disturbing as it is to watch, one must wonder how inclined anyone will be to run from the cops when they are stopped?

I predict two outcomes.

First will be fewer runners.

The second will be more cops killed in traffic stops.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:09 | 5978116 10mm
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A Glock.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:10 | 5978119 Headbanger
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Which one?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:17 | 5978146 f16hoser
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Standard 9mm Glock. Some use a .40 Glock by exception. His sounded like a 9mm.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:11 | 5978126 Jethro
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Sorry dude, you just don't know what you're talking about on this subject.  You can't just shoot somebody that is running away from you to wound them.  If you have to shoot somebody in the course of your duties, you do so in defense of yourself or others, and then you shoot them center mass to incapacitate them.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:21 | 5978168 Headbanger
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You're right. 

My thinking was more like the cop intended to kill when he could have just knocked him down with a lower leg shot when he flipped out using his gun.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:44 | 5978275 Buckaroo Banzai
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You can kill someone by shooting them in the leg, you know. There is this thing called a femoral artery.

The whole idea of "shooting to wound" or "shooting to disable" is a retarded one, both legally and practically.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:15 | 5978430 Mr. Frosty
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Yea, I cringe whenever I read the phrase "shoot to wound." Reality isn't an action movie...

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 14:36 | 5979752 forexskin
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gotta add wrong morally.

the only reason to open up on someone is if life is in danger from an agressor, which justifies full defense, or shoot to kill, or be killed.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:15 | 5978432 Jethro
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I can honestly say that I don't know anybody, that carries a firearm in the course of their daily professional duties, that thinks the way you described. 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:13 | 5978131 Gamma735
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My guess Glock 9mm. He did not go down on the first shot.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:17 | 5978149 Thirst Mutilator
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Yeah, I agree there... You practically have to empty a half a clip to bring someone down...

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:39 | 5978278 NoDebt
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It's half a MAGAZINE, and you don't know how many of those 8 shots landed.  He could has sailed the first 4 shots right past him for all we know.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:44 | 5978559 Calmyourself
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Garand is a clip...  ping...

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 13:30 | 5979436 Government need...
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Why was this piece of information relevant?  Are you hearing voices again?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:23 | 5978182 BandGap
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Or S&W M&P.

He might have missed him a couple times. Eight shots to take down a 50 year old man.

What the fuck was this cop thinking? His wife has a kid on the way (8th month) and he does the worst thing.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:52 | 5978337 actionjacksonbrownie
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Cops have an iq of less than 100 - they don't have the ability to think. And any woman who would marry one these assholes is obviously not too high on the iq chart either.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 14:20 | 5979671 g speed
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so--did the cop spy on the wife and catch her with the boy friend and then follow him and stop him and when the boy friend realized who stopped him he ran and the cop followed and tried to beat up the boy friend but couldn't hang on --so just shot him instead ?????

sound reasonable to me---just saying--

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 14:47 | 5979787 Againstthelie
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And how high is your IQ if you demand that criminals shall have the right to run away?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:19 | 5980415 Zorrohodge
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Wow that's crazy 8 month pregnant wife!?

The cop guy maybe really believes that the general public are a danger to him, why? Maybe too much movies and stories and fear resulting in this tragedy.

Poor man shot down, maybe he was afraid and ran for fear of this very thing happening after Ferguson etc.

USA is messed up

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:17 | 5978145 negative rates
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It's a thumb bazooka, you need a camera to be convicted, otherwise it's all good.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:32 | 5978241 Payne
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We do not know what the officer said to make him run.  I doubt it was show me your license and registration.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:39 | 5978534 Recognizer
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Did you not have your audio turned on or something?  That's exactly what he said.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 14:55 | 5979795 Againstthelie
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If even ZHers are so enraged that they demand that criminals shall have the right to run away then you know it worked for 99,9% out there.

Raycisst, murderous white police.

Jew York Times, one can only admit that was a brilliant propaganda coup.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:01 | 5978377 Guinny_Ire
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He should never have shot him. But after sprinting 50 yds, or even 25 yds, shooting a weapon isn't easy period. He may have been shooting at his legs for all we know.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 13:31 | 5979439 Government need...
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With training, a reasonable person can put the 1st round center mass under these circumstances.  The murdering cop (like so many of them) cant shoot for shit.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:01 | 5978378 Guinny_Ire
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He should never have shot him. But after sprinting 50 yds, or even 25 yds, shooting a weapon isn't easy period. He may have been shooting at his legs for all we know.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:21 | 5978456 Recognizer
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It makes complete sense to me that he shot him.

1) The guy is willing to forefit his car in order to try to run away.

2) The guy is willing to run even though officer has his ID.

3) The guy is willing to fight with the officer and attempt to run again.

If you are the officer, you have to assume that either this person is up to some serious shit, or they are willing to go to great measures to escape.  Any measures, like hostage taking and murder.  If the officer's job in any way, shape, or form, is to protect the community, this person must be perceived to be a inmediate threat to the community and a danger to others.

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:50 | 5978594 tarsubil
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The car was stolen. His ID was fake. He was a two bit criminal. Nothing he did warranted being shot in the back. Please move back to 1930s Nazi Germany.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 11:23 | 5978772 Recognizer
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Yes, and those are all things you would know at the time you stopped him, because why?  We are assuming the officer is clarvoiant? 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 11:28 | 5978810 tarsubil
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I gave possibilities that undermine your "this guy is public enemy number one" BS. You really sound like a neocon before every BS invasion. Having trouble getting the delorean going, adolf?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 12:00 | 5978974 Recognizer
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Cry Nazi, and unleash the dogs of war.  Your false attributions are a little grandiose, no?  Public enemy number one?  Invasion?  DeLorean?

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 14:07 | 5979591 Abaco
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If you are that officer you should quit the force or shoot yourself.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 12:33 | 5979153 Dark Space
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Wrong answer. You never, ever, ever shoot someone to wound them. You shouldn't even point a gun AT someone unless you intend to shoot them to death - ever, ever, ever. Tha is the first rule of handling a weapon.

 

This shooting is clearly unjustified, don't mistake what I said as justification. But, if you are shooting someone, the intent should be to kill them, not wing them, or whatever you're proposing. If your goal is to be non-lethal, than a gun just should not be the tool you're using.

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 00:28 | 5981374 readmylips
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you don't shoot to wound. thats stupid.

you shoot to kill, or you don't shoot at all. those are the two choices.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:06 | 5978095 GetZeeGold
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The police acted stupidly......now Obama.....say it now.

 

Under our nationalized police force.....which will be just as strong as our military....this will never happen again.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:11 | 5978123 Equality 7-25-1
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Under their interpol regional police force, you mean. 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:22 | 5978463 Government need...
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That would be a real easy point at which to go full Wolverine.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:04 | 5978096 Iocosus
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How come there isn't any smoke coming from the gun?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:05 | 5978102 Dr.Evil
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Modern ammo is smokeless.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:21 | 5978169 Serfs Up
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True since 1884.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:56 | 5978356 rpboxster
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Because it wasn't a musket.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:00 | 5978374 PenguinDude
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Inside job?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 11:42 | 5978887 Chumly
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Inside? As in conspiracy theories whirling around like little peas "inside" someone's vacuous skull? Maybe.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:05 | 5978101 fascismlover
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I hear the big guys in prison like a squishy butt so officer McShooty will be a popular gal there.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:07 | 5978109 Thirst Mutilator
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Might as well tattoo a glazed donut on his ass right now...

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 09:25 | 5978195 WillyGroper
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I thot that was a W on either cheek.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 10:29 | 5978492 RafterManFMJ
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Silly peasants; only you get ass raped in prison;* cops usually get special custody where they are isolated from such unpleasantries.

It amuses me no end you console your weak Ego with the fantasy that someone else will make [generic killer cop] pay; the only justice, the only *sure* justice, is justice you personally administer - and I personally recommend a 10:1 payment.

They take one from you, you take 10 from them.

*...and come to think about it, outside of prison as well. 'Ello, FED, I'm lookin' at you!

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