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Germany Orders 100 Tanks To "Ensure Troops Are Ready To Respond To Russian Assertiveness"

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With Jean-Claude Juncker demanding a Unified European Army, it appears Germany is wasting no time in simultaneously boosting its own economy with warfare spending and comforting a 'fearful populace' with more military might. As Reuters reports, Germany plans to procure more than 100 additional Leopard 2 tanks, increasing its total Leopard 2 tank inventory by a whopping 45% a government spokesman said on Friday, as it seeks to ensure its "troops are ready for action in response to concerns over recent Russian assertiveness."

 

 

Reuters reports:

Germany plans to procure more than 100 additional Leopard 2 tanks, a government spokesman said on Friday, as it seeks to ensure its troops are ready for action in response to concerns over recent Russian assertiveness.

 

The decision to restock its military comes as NATO tries to hasten the response time of its rapid reaction force following Russia's annexation of Crimea last year and conflict in Ukraine.

 

"The ministry has decided to raise the upper limit for the future to 328," a defense ministry spokesman told a regular government news conference on Friday, confirming a report by German magazine Spiegel.

 

Just before the end of the Cold War, in the 1980s, the then West Germany had more than 3,500 tanks. Now, seventy years after World War Two, it has just 225. As a result soldiers have to share tanks and heavy equipment across different units.

 

Given NATO's new goals on flexibility and rapid reaction time, Germany has to ensure that it can deploy troops with the correct equipment to the right place in a short period of time, the spokesman said. "This can only succeed if the equipment does not need to be first moved around through the country," he said.

 

The Leopard tanks are made by Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW).

So harbinger of S&P algos euphoria-inducing WWIII? Or just another Keynesian public works spending project?

 

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Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:24 | 5980194 Boondocker
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You must be the only there who doesnt....had lunch with a six river bank VP.  watched him smoke a joint before our meeting. ..

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:03 | 5979856 JimmyRainbow
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be careful, news in germany is that retired tanks are bought back additionally

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:13 | 5979869 tony wilson and...
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burp

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:07 | 5979870 Boondocker
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Germans and tanks...what could possibly go wrong 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:31 | 5979956 bluskyes
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the 100 tanks is a diversion. How many tractors did they order, and are the Deutsche jungen being drilled in the care, and polishing of shovels?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:07 | 5979872 wcvarones
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Hahaha.  A hundred tanks.  How cute.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:07 | 5979873 Banananomics
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It's a joke. They are buying back old mothballed leo 2 (i heard for 22 mio euro).

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:08 | 5979877 Caleb Abell
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Makes sense to me.  After all, tanks worked out so well for germany the last time they visited Russia.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:15 | 5979896 LawsofPhysics
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I think that the tanks are for Greece in reality.  Well hey, at least Poland can relax now.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:55 | 5980723 HardAssets
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Oh yeah, - German tanks rolling into Greece for their banksters.
That would be fantastic p.r.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:12 | 5979887 tony wilson and...
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better make it 200

100 for the kraut uki parties

100 for past compensations

to  the innocent netanyahoo

whos 6 million family was killed by nazi

germany

germany must always pay spielbergs  compensations

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:14 | 5979892 p00k1e
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What’s the sound like inside of a Leopard 2 when it’s nailed with a Kornet? 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:58 | 5980066 taoJones
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"Ach, du lieber!" followed by silence & regret...

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:16 | 5979904 I Write Code
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I hope they paint them the same mirror-colors that are hot for the Audi R8s around town.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:43 | 5980676 knukles
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That would be Awesome, dude!

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:18 | 5979911 auntiesocial
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I saw this debate -sarc- once on whether the Jews or the Germans make a better oven cleaner... fucking high larious.  wish I could find that again.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:21 | 5979921 p00k1e
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Sinking cruise ships would be more convincing....  

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:22 | 5979924 Lin S
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Because Germany's last vacation in Russia worked out so well for them.  I mean, really, what could possibly go wrong?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:12 | 5980124 Winston of Oceania
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We just grow tired of Russia expanding into their neighbors lands. This time Ivan you won't be on home territory fighting an exhausted and spent foe. This time America will be supplying Germany and not Russia which is why you made it through the last time.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:29 | 5980230 johny2
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you really are that stupid.

you are paid to troll.

 

the second option is so much easier to believe, in todays age of freely available information. still, down to the style of your post, the first option gets my vote.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:17 | 5980406 GeezerGeek
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The problem with all that freely available information is that some of it is accurate, some is disinformation, some simply misinformation, etc. How does one tell? After all, isn't Jim Cramer's information freely available?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:36 | 5980658 johny2
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main media outlets for most of people in nato countries plays an active role in bringing forward the ww3. almost everyone here knows the nato will keep pushing and using any means to start it. and the media has to make populations ready to believe that it is a right thing to do. it used to be a reason to open zh to see where we are regarding the end of the debt scheme, but as we suspected, the ponzi scheme collapse will be hidden by the smoke of some very big bombs going off. 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:37 | 5980233 Max Steel
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But you don't get tired in fucking things up near Russia's bordering nations by bringing sham revolutions chickenhawk . Ever tried bringing such revolutions against your corrupt oligarchs ? You won't trolls are on govt payroll getting monthly fat cheques .

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:50 | 5980300 Kayman
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Winney of O

While it is true that America supplied planes (thru Canada and Alaska) and trucks (thru Iran) to Stalin, Russia far and away built their own armaments.  Ask the old timers, American or Russian, "would you rather have been in a T34 or a Sherman ?".  

Even the Germans started copying the T34 sloped armor design.

Any new war in Europe won't be requiring tanks. 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:20 | 5980420 GeezerGeek
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And if I recall, the T34 used a suspension/drive system developed by an American. Christie, I think. (No, not Doughboy Chris.)

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:46 | 5980687 Volkodav
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there is no Ivan here, dummy

you are loose mouth know nothing about this subject

I am Swabian, Bohemian, Russ heritage  and know Germans, Russians not enemies..

There is so much German in Russia..Great Katerine a German, invited especially to Volga regions 

enemies made war twice to keep rising economic Germany down, now work for war to control rise of free Russia

their worst fear is German Russian cooperation

you are ignorant of real enemy

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:24 | 5979930 Lin S
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On second thought, maybe these tanks are really intended for Saudi Arabia, there to be "lost" to ISISIL.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:25 | 5979933 Bighorn_100b
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Germany should have its name changed after WWII. The new name should have been called, DONT DO IT AGAIN! The name "Germany" should have been erased from the map. IMO!

That's not racist, but lose the name and never forget what they did, ever!

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:27 | 5979937 Lin S
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Germany seems to get smaller after each world war that they lose.

How much will be left after the one they're about to start, now?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:33 | 5979964 hendrik1730
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Ever gave a thought of what YOU guys did to native Americans? It's called genocide, FYI.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:38 | 5979992 p00k1e
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Damn, ya got me.

I’m 158 years old.  

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:44 | 5980026 shovelhead
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And we know your name ain't Custer.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:27 | 5980218 Boondocker
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They should have learned to forge metal. ..fuck them for being content to war on other tribes with primitive weapons 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:26 | 5980440 GeezerGeek
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Pretty much the same as every conquering group, like the Ostrogoths, Visigoths, Huns, Mongols, Muslims, etc. did. Or in the case of ISIS, still do. It's called being human. 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 20:04 | 5980871 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Human nature, again this crap.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:45 | 5980028 DutchBoy2015
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What did they do?   How about never forgetting the 10 million INNOCENT people the USA has killed since 1960.  Including the genocide in Vietnam .

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:29 | 5980452 GeezerGeek
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None are innocent. Except maybe the 40 or 50 million aborted babies the USA found inconvenient.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:46 | 5980030 DutchBoy2015
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Let me guess, you believe the bullshit 6 million figure.  Are you a KIKE?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:28 | 5980641 Volkodav
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ignorant post

you know nothing about this subject

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:32 | 5979960 Mister Delicious
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what a hunk of Orwellian horseshit.

I doubt the Germans believe it.

Meanwhile, in Nulandistan:

https://consortiumnews.com/2015/04/03/mysterious-deaths-in-ukraine/

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:32 | 5980464 GeezerGeek
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Incredibly, none of the deaths in the article involved a nail gun. 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:32 | 5979961 aliki
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peace-keeping tanks

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:35 | 5979977 Omega_Man
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will come in handy to use against their own people when the general population revolts... 

after all it's a long drive to russia...

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:39 | 5980001 p00k1e
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France is occupying France (Paris).

Germany will now occupy Germany.
 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:37 | 5979984 p00k1e
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Why is Germany allowed to ‘Tank-Up’, yet Japan is forced to remain a sitting duck?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:06 | 5980100 Winston of Oceania
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100 panzers are not equal to "tanking up". BTW Japan is arming up as well.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:38 | 5979995 datura
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OMG, Germany's economy is going down the drain, so the first thing they absolutely need are new tanks. Great. Do you know this great song? It sums it up all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia0CUR160Vc

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:41 | 5980265 TheFourthStooge-ing
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"They've got tanks on the border of Europe,
and spies ... everywhere."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVf7m_YZ2zY

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:42 | 5979997 sessinpo
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To find some generally intelligent persons suggesting there is such a strong link to Greece so that could be a blitzkrieg of Germany tanks on Greece is funny.

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:39 | 5979998 Omega_Man
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with all the idle factories in china , they could probably make 100 tanks an hour without breaking a sweat... preferably 1 million T38's with extra large fuel tanks.  send them to Iran.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:24 | 5980633 Volkodav
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what is T38?

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 00:24 | 5981369 tarabel
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Czech light tank with 37mm gun from pre-Hitler takeover times.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:42 | 5980016 Omega_Man
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Dr. Prosche designed a Tiger prototype with electric drive but it didn't work.. perhaps they have the technology now to finally make it.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:23 | 5980626 Volkodav
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Porsche.... "por-sha"  two sylable

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:43 | 5980019 DutchBoy2015
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Russia should cut off all gas to Germany and Europe and kick out all German companies. 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:04 | 5980089 Winston of Oceania
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Why because Germany might have 300 panzers compared to Russia with at least 7500? Stupid Russians...

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:17 | 5980151 DutchBoy2015
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Russia is not the aggressor. USA/NATO are.   

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:06 | 5980099 Solarman
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LOL, and Russia then sinks further behind the West.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:11 | 5980116 LawsofPhysics
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LOL!  Yeah the "average westerner" is a real super genius...

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:19 | 5980160 DutchBoy2015
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Is it a race?  The USA is light years behind Northern Europe in modern infrastructure.  Hell, even Spain has better trains system and hi speed autobahn.,

Oh, and why does America have such slow and EXPENSIVE internet?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:53 | 5980047 Mister Delicious
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Putin put his borders like really really close to all the tanks and missiles and mercenaries we've put over there in the past 5 years!

he must be stopped!

http://www.takeoverworld.info/Grand_Chessboard.pdf

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:56 | 5980057 blueRidgeBoy
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on a serious note, this is a consequence of American isolationism.  Germany buys tanks, Saudi Arabia wants nukes, Japan launches helicopter carriers.  This trend will only accelerate.  Not passing any judgment, just noting that it's a direct and predictable result. 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:00 | 5980075 Mister Delicious
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I either applaud your pithy sarcasm or lament your understanding of "isolationism."

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:04 | 5980362 Kayman
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 "this is a consequence of American isolationism."

Let us in on when our "isolationism" started.  Even during the 1930's FDR was busy building up arms. 

If the war in Iraq was never started, Sadam and the Iranians would be working their hostilities out on each other and the rest of their internal tribes.

Fortunately, our interventionism has calmed the whole Middle East into a garden of tranquility. 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:59 | 5980063 Element
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"So harbinger of S&P algos euphoria-inducing WWIII? Or just another Keynesian public works spending project?"

 

I'm thinking the latter.

Who aspires to tank crewing in an MBT? No armored vehicle crew is 'protected' these days, and MBTs are the first thing that gets shot at. The number of weapons that can kill tanks today ... just forget about it!

So yeah ... the latter.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 15:57 | 5980064 dogismycopilot
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John Winger: C'mon, it's Czechoslovakia. We zip in, we pick 'em up, we zip right out again. We're not going to Moscow. It's Czechoslovakia. It's like going into Wisconsin.

Russell Ziskey: Well I got the shit kicked out of me in Wisconsin once. Forget it!

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:00 | 5980079 gcjohns1971
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Well...

Soviet Russia went to Czechoslovakia in 1968...and stayed until 1991.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:21 | 5980174 Winston of Oceania
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Funny you should bring that up, is Russia acting any differently now than they were in 1968? Sooner rather than later they will have to be dealt with as Manstien predicted. I only bring up the the feldherr because it make the Russians squirm and cry.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:19 | 5980602 Volkodav
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BS    that is one squirrelly post

You conflate defunct Soviet with Russian Federation

From 1917 thru Stalin was never Russians in control

 

 

 

 

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 00:42 | 5981382 Element
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Well during the the cold war the holy Obama was not in control either, so what's your point? It was still Russia and Russians pursuing Russian empire. That whole 'it was the Soviets I tells ya!' excuse you keep pedaling is beyond laughable, it's the pathological strange-meat for vegans. 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:12 | 5980123 Ban KKiller
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Long war profiteering. As per plan. 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:16 | 5980130 kchrisc
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"War is a racket." - Smedley Butler

I know much about history, and the people of history, so I can say with a pretty high level of confidence that that quote may be the most important and insightful of the last two thousand years of humanity's history.

I would only add that one must then find the racket and kill it.

The banksters need to repay us.

 

"In the day and age of nuclear weapons, it is clear that standing armies only serve an offensive purpose, and always have, despite the rhetoric of defense."

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:38 | 5980153 Nobody For President
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Russia orders up a couple hundred more anti-tank missles.

War is SO good for everyobody's economies...

Tanks are groovey, especially with Infantry support, unless you do not have air superiority...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9M120_Ataka

WHAT A FUCKING WASTE of money, energy, youth, all of it. l am getting sick of this shit, and I'm a vet that once believed.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:18 | 5980154 justmy2cents
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There actually going to be loaned to the new tax inspectors in Greece.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:20 | 5980165 ScorpionDeathLock
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Its missing AMAP-ASS. Asshole protection

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:24 | 5980167 Prober
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Dear Angela Merkel:

Your order for tanks contains a gross comical error, ie missing a zero, you NEED AT LEAST 1,000 MORE tanks, to defend against the rampaging russian gangster invaders, not merely 100 more tanks, which will be destroyed in just the first few minutes of battle.

You also need MANY Apache attack helicopters, MANY A10 Thuderbolts, MANY F117s, and MANY F22 Raptors, which you may be able to buy from China at a lower price than from the USA since the chinks stole the plans from the decadent, incompetent Americans, and you especially need MANY cruise missiles and mobile ICBMs with nuke warheads.

I wish you the best of luck with your eastern land-hungry neighbor.

Signed

Former Resident Who Moved to Safer Location

PS Spending money on defense instead of socialist programs may anger the large population of socialist entitlement parasites in Germany, so I suggest that you borrow the money for defense spending at negative interest rates and then "greece" the lenders :-))

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:48 | 5980290 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

Former Resident Who Moved to Safer Location

Those padded cells really do work, huh?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:58 | 5980330 Prober
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You are still a failure and nothing, and always will be, just a stooge.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:28 | 5980448 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Don't get all riled up or Nurse Ratched will have to give you some 'medicine'.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 19:11 | 5980758 Prober
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I use live bait for fishing that has more intelligence and worth than you.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 20:53 | 5980989 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

I use live bait for fishing that has more intelligence and worth than you.

Best laugh I've had this day.

Cannot make the same live bait comparison with you. Would need first to substitute a spoon with pork rind trailer attached.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:43 | 5981096 Prober
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you are still a nothing and will remain a nothing for the rest of your life :-))

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 19:03 | 5980715 Sauerkraut-Opinion
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F22 Raptors? Weren't they the biggest investment errors of the Airforce? 

Although the intended purpose of EF is not the same -  here the (...of course inofficial...) result of a happy red flag-weekend in Canada:

http://theaviationist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/closeup1.jpg

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 19:09 | 5980748 Prober
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The F22 is an excellent significant leap forward in technology, but victim of the obomination era politics. The pentagon is terrified of the budget consequences of any additional costs, failures or crashes, so they are mismanaging the program for political correctness instead of pushing technological advances.

If I were going up against the russkies and their extremely capable air fleet, and could choose my fighter from the current inventory, I would definitely choose the F22 Raptor.

Practical independent evidence as to why the F22 Raptor is the most advanced fighter:

The chinks chose to clone the F22 vs all the other plans they have stolen, including the russian planes. The chinks always choose the best quality !

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:21 | 5980168 OutaTime43
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Russian assertiveness = Russia defending themselves    ..   can't have that now can we?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:24 | 5980193 Winston of Oceania
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Defending themselves right into their neighbors territory how cleaver of them.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:28 | 5980224 Moccasin
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Who's territory???

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:29 | 5980231 DutchBoy2015
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YOu are a goddam brainwashed idiot.  Russia did NOT invade Ukraine you fucking MORON.  You must be American and believe the crap FOXCNNABCCBSNBC and your Mulatto Monkey feeds you.

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 01:23 | 5981413 COSMOS
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Well USSA and NATO certainly have invaded Ukraine, flown mercenaries in, gold out, CIA head in, Bidens son in, foreign nationals in control of govt etc.

I'm like Russia has every excuse in the world to invade to prevent the genocide of ethnic Russian people.  Ukraine is no longer a country but is quickly becoming a NATO base.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:34 | 5980245 DutchBoy2015
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Hey Dumbo. watch this video,   and see what an American visiting Crimea discovered/.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1zvb_ottiw

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:27 | 5980213 Moccasin
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Russia is laughing at the West. If push comes to obliteration, nothing a few tactical nuclear weapons wouldn't solve. Rule 1, on page 1 of the book of war, is: 'Do not march on Moscow'... [Rule 2] is: 'Do not go fighting with your land armies in China.
- Bernard Law Montgomery

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:28 | 5980223 DutchBoy2015
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Neo-Nazis, Blackwater in Ukraine and US State-Funded ‘Independent’ Media: http://bit.ly/1GwRMq4

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:35 | 5980249 DutchBoy2015
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Fucktards like this Winston of Oceania need to watch this video.  Crimea for Dummies

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1zvb_ottiw

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:40 | 5980259 newsoutlet
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putin regime is criminal and aggresive - it must be stopped like hitler regime.

http://stopputinregime.wordpress.com

 

He has plans to invade EU countries and threaten world with nuclear weapon armagdon - he is a nutty - just like hitler.

https://youtu.be/74vVyCorxiE

 

Also a food for your mind:

 

Russia demands that Belarus become part of Russian Federation – otherwise it will be liquidated

 

The journalist Eduard Birov insists that Lukashenko must decide with whom he is - with Russia or the West, Joinfo.ua reports.

According to him, otherwise, Belarus can face the fate of Ukraine "The same thing, and even with the same blood can happen to Belarus, if the leadership and the people do not make a choice in favor of one party - in favor of their home in the Russian peace. Moreover, the choice must be imperial and principled - not just to sit in the apartment and be afraid to quarrel with each of the parties, even making money out of sanctions against Russia, but to join Russia with territory and soul, to fall into the same line with it, to share its grief".

The Vzgliad newspaper insists that "collection of the Russian lands" is "not Putin's whim, but an objective necessity."

"In this regard, the only correct way out is that Lukashenko, if he is a real patriot of Belarus and the Russian peace, should hold a referendum on accession to Russia along with the elections in the autumn of 2015 and then, depending on the will of the people, make a historic decision. Russia needs the Russian Belarusians to make their clear and direct choice, without this Ukrainian wagging between the two poles. If Lukashenko shows such an initiative, in the winter of 2015 Belarus will become a part of the Russian Federation as a special autonomy. But for this, Alexander Grigoryevich have to give up his ambitions as a leader of a "sovereign state," which, of course, is a very painful moment for any politician, and all the more, for such an experienced one," writes the Russian propagandist.

Otherwise, he says, "Belarus will be liquidated in its current form."

http://joinfo.com/world/1001931_Russia-demands-that-Belarus-become-part-...

 

Check out: http://toinformistoinfluence.com/

 

 

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:46 | 5980282 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Predicting Ukraine's Future Through Latvia's Past

(hint: it's a peculiar form of insanitation)

http://russia-insider.com/en/letter-latvian-friend-donetsk/5355

But hey, some Latvians are actually quite honorable and think about more than just their next potato:

http://sputniknews.com/analysis/20150407/1020578886.html

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:49 | 5980296 DutchBoy2015
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Put down the crack pipe you fucking moron.  Putin is a real leader who protects his country. UNLIKE the goddam Useless Snakes which is the most bullying aggressive warmongering nation on earth.

Now fuck off,

And watch THIS>  See what Crimeans think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1zvb_ottiw

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:01 | 5980343 newsoutlet
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putin regime has no interest in russian people but instead to please oligarchs and keep his self at power as czar and here facts that prove that:

There is money for elite:

Russian Big Business Is Lining up for Budget Funds

and killing machine in order to invade Ukraine and who know where else:

Russian Defense Budget to Hit Record $81 Billion in 2015

but not for doctors:

Moscow’s plan to close hospitals and fire doctors threatens social welfare system

and not for education

Putin War Budget Gives Less to Health, Education, Agriculture and Even Crimea

putin regime occupied and annexed part of Ukraine – Crimea (which is an international crime and for what he will be brought to court in time):

Putin Admits Russian Troop Role in Crimea Annexation

but gave away land territory to China:

China Eyes Land Giveaway Program in Russia’s Far East

and China will take over Russia leaving Russia as puppet state to China:

Former head of Moscow FSB warns Russia could lose territory to China

Watch this video - you can switch on ENG subtitles:

https://youtu.be/a0DEbJitRaY

One thing is that putin gives away money to his corrupt elite system members and gives away Russian land and energy for pennies to China – other that he is slaughtering Russian people by sending them in undeclared wars – where young boys are slaughtered and their mothers receive lies from putin regime that their boys has died in “accidents” and they can visit their son corps in far distant places guarded by FSB agents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C66mAkS1ZfM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_CoL_yfI1s

 

 

https://stopputinregime.wordpress.com/

And despite all that – people in Russia Federation is so brainwashed by main stream media that they are ready to starve and die for czar putin. It’s not normal. This is hitler rising in Russia Federation.

Kremlin hard-liner: Russians would 'rather starve' than surrender Putin to Western aggressors

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:45 | 5980514 Mister Delicious
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news outlet, you ignorant slut. Never let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

And troll less and read more, you vapid twat.

http://www.softpanorama.org/Skeptics/Pseudoscience/harvard_mafia.shtml

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:46 | 5980526 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Well look at the treachery going on in Latvia. In February, NATO and their toadying poltroons held a coordination meeting on strategies for using Ukraine to overthrow and break apart Russia.

http://drakulablog.com/2015/04/01/west-and-ukraine-against-putin-and-his...

Poor newsoutlet viedoklis: his morbid preoccupation with Putin has blinded him from seeing that his country is again occupied by totalitarians. Personally, I think he likes it that way.

Hat tip to Colonel Cassad:

https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.ru/colonelcassad.livejournal.com/21...

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:55 | 5980497 Volkodav
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BS   you are hapless troll

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 19:22 | 5980776 Niall Of The Ni...
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What's your point? White Russia and Little Russia never made sense as independent states to anybody but Russia's enemies. The sooner "Belarus" and "Ukraine" are restored to the Russian nation, the better.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:44 | 5980275 DeliciousSteak
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A hundred tanks, ohmigod. 1000 would be news. German armor traditionally has a good K/D ratio but then Russia has some 15,000 tanks total against their "soon to be" 330.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:44 | 5980511 silverer
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And did you see the newest Russian tanks?  Quite serious hardware.  But Russia intends to invade nobody.  Sad.  What a waste of money everywhere!  So many problems, and so many elites to dodge them all.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:52 | 5980307 CrucialConfront...
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Without tanks the Germans can't get rid of the army that is occupying their country, taking away their freedom, and threatening their future.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:01 | 5980342 q99x2
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Oh Boy. Banksters are going to try to skate their responsibilities by making war. Hehehehe.

Everyone knows that if you want to stop war you stop the source of funding first.

Arrest Lloyd Blankfein.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:06 | 5980364 dexter_morgan
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Actually, it one of their biggest money making plays. Finance all sides with fake money created out of thin air and sit back and rake in the interest.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:04 | 5980359 dexter_morgan
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Big Joe: Hey look, you just keep them Tigers busy and we'll take care of the rest.

Oddball: The only way I got to keep them Tigers busy is to LET THEM SHOOT HOLES IN ME!

Crapgame: Hey, Oddball, this is your hour of glory. And you're chickening out!

Oddball: To a New Yorker like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Tigers.

Kelly: Nobody's asking you to be a hero.

Oddball: No? Then YOU sit up in that turret baby.

Kelly: No, because you're gonna be up there, baby, and I'll be right outside showing you which way to go.

Oddball: Yeah?

Kelly: Yeah.

Oddball: Crazy... I mean like, so many positive waves... maybe we can't lose, you're on!

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:11 | 5980384 Hyjinx
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About time.  Tired of carrying around the defensive needs of Europe.  Although they are going to need a lot more than 325 tanks to even begin to pick up the tab.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:46 | 5980623 Sauerkraut-Opinion
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One Leo is not one T90. 

Nevertheless: I don't guess that Wladimir Putin is intenting invasion. Beside of western propaganda: Maybe he is the most European politican of all. And Mrs. Merkel doesn't believe here own hesistant authorised public propaganda 

Putin for sure is not interested in nuclear actions - why should he be interested to contaminate European ground- beside the circumstance that putative the answer would be the same? 

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 02:30 | 5981483 basho
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"One Leo is not one T90. "

get current.

 

" the Russian armed forces have ceased ordering the T-90, and are instead waiting for the development of the Armata Universal Combat Platform that is expected to enter service in 2016.[7]"

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:41 | 5980624 Sauerkraut-Opinion
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...

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 02:28 | 5981482 basho
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"Tired of carrying around the defensive needs of Europe. "

ohhh, poor baby.

anything original to add to your MSM opinion? lmao

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 07:09 | 5981594 Winston of Oceania
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The best part about Russians is thT they actually believe they are invincible because Uncle Sam spoon fed them trucks, ammunition and shitloads of food so that they could win against Germany. Without which they would have LOST.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:26 | 5980439 Saccard
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Wow, 100 additional tanks!? Hmmmmm, considering the status of the equipment (and the personnel) of our Bundeswehr, I think, I'd feel much more safer if we set up just  one battalion Volkssturm. ;-)

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:41 | 5980502 silverer
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Best protection against the Russians: friendly German citizens at the border with lots of bottles of vodka.  Hey, make drinks, not war.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:28 | 5980447 DutchBoy2015
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Russian assertiveness = Protecting their country from USA/NATO NeoCon Nazi aggressors.

 

I support Russia. so look out Ramstein if you bastards attack Russia.  

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:04 | 5980562 nuke ISIS now
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Doucheboy 2015 states

"Russian assertiveness = Protecting their country from USA/NATO NeoCon Nazi aggressors."

So apparently overtaking the Ukraine, and flying nuclear bombers by and over NATO countries, does not make Russia an agressor?  You fucking Russian propagadist fucktard mother fucker...

Guess what, you inbred black livered Russian fuck tard,  CHUG another bottle of Stoli, because the US has an ICBM Enema comng your way

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:06 | 5981015 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Captain Butthole said:

You fucking Russian propagadist fucktard mother fucker...

Guess what, you inbred black livered Russian fuck tard,  CHUG another bottle of Stoli, because the US has an ICBM Enema comng your way

Is that the same foul mouth you use to fellate your uncle?

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 02:26 | 5981479 basho
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my, my, what a marvelous vocabulary you have. bravo

now just go and crawl back under your rock, homeboy.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:36 | 5980479 DutchBoy2015
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Here is all you need to know who really funds ISIS and claims to be fighting them

 

''US, Britain, France, and Jordan reject Syria’s proposal to add ISIL to the UN sanctions list as a separate terror group''

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:40 | 5980492 silverer
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Don't worry German citizens: we've got you protected from the Russians!  Now, about your wallets...

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 23:48 | 5981329 Freddie
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Indeed. Who is protecting German taxpaers from the EU-SSR and ECB?   Maybe the Germans will escort the Russians if Putin decides to take out Brussels.

Sadly, Germans love putting that stupid blue flag on the bumber of their cars.  The flag that Nigel Farage lampoons.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:41 | 5980500 lasvegaspersona
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fighting the last war??? Seems to me a tank is a target. With the ability to find the GPS location of any stationary or moving object with pinpoint accuracy the purchase of tanks can only beneit the seller of tanks. Might be cheaper just to buy coffins.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:46 | 5980525 Mister Delicious
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with due respect to comments above - the russians arent invading europe, and NATO isn't going to [overtly] get into even Ukraine, let alone Russia proper.

And if they look like they might - Ivan will go nuclear.

There will be no New Bolshevik conquest of Russia.

Israel isn't the only Sampson out there.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:51 | 5980536 Laddie
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The problem is that Germany is led by a COMMUNIST Angela Merkel, and they hate NATIONALISTS and Putin IS a nationalist. If only Germany had a Jean-Marie Le Pen leading it...

Interview, French weekly Rivarol on April 9, 2015

Jean-Marie Le Pen: The figures are terrifying. On the one hand we have 735 million Europeans with the average age of 45. Fertility rate: 1.4 children per woman. In front of us there are 6 billion individuals, with mean age of 20. Fertility rate: 4 to 5 children per woman. The problem is of a geopolitical nature. If you do not cut off the pipeline between these two, if you do not remove the suction pump, if you do not reverse the immigration flood — we are finished, without even needing a revolution or a war. We will be defeated at the ballot box. This is an unavoidable mathematical reality...

Here are the other numbers you may want to think about: China has 1.4 billion people, India 1.5 billion. If China drops, as it is likely, the iniquitous law of one child per family, it is to be expected that on the demographic level the backlash will result in the large families they were deprived of earlier. Thus we can have a China with three or four billion people! This seems obvious from the planet Sirius, but we need to look from this perspective at the future of the world. There are one million Chinese people in France. These are intelligent people, active, discreet, yet powerful and redoubtable. As we are all too eager to sell our mortal remains and the pearls of our crown to the highest bidder — of course, there’s a reason to worry! That’s why we absolutely need to agree with Russia and save the boreal (north) Europe and the White World. The Northern, boreal Europe also encompasses Slavs, Siberia, although I am afraid that the Russians cannot keep it for themselves only.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:03 | 5980570 realWhiteNight123129
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Time to split Germany in two again.

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:06 | 5980577 yellowsub
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Can these thing survive a nuclear blast?  

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 07:04 | 5981591 Winston of Oceania
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Russia surely can't so why ask.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:18 | 5980603 Sauerkraut-Opinion
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I think it's more a symbolic good-will-act for Washington while former German canceller Gerhard Schröder is playing Golf with his best friend Wladimir. Next year they will sell it to Saudi Arabia. ;-)

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 02:23 | 5981478 basho
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yeah, deal in symbols when you've got no balls to say 'get out of DE, amis'

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:20 | 5980609 newsoutlet
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https://stopputinregime.wordpress.com/

 

To understand that it's putin who is behaving like aggressor in Europe and threatening western world for helping Ukraine to defend it's self against putin regime invasion - read these facts about these latest close military encounters between Russia and the West.

High Risk Incidents High Risk incidents, in our view, are defined as those with a high probability of causing casualties or a direct military confrontation between Russia and Western states. We have identified three such cases in the relevant time period:   On 3 March 2014 a close encounter occurred between a SAS passenger plane taking off from Copenhagen and a Russian reconnaissance aircraft which did not transmit its position. The incident happened 50 miles south east of Malmo. A collision was apparently avoided thanks only to good visibility and the alertness of the passenger plane pilots. The SAS 737 plane was carrying 132 passengers to Rome. Had these two planes collided with a major loss of civilian life comparable to the tragedy of flight MH17 over eastern Ukraine, the result would almost certainly have been a new round of western sanctions on Russia and increased NATO patrolling in the Baltic Sea but also, and perhaps more importantly, the classification of further un-logged or blind air activity over Europe as a possible threat to life requiring forceful pre-emptive interdiction.     On 5 September 2014

an Estonian security service operative, Eston Kohver, was abducted by Russian agents from an Estonian border post, on Estonian, and therefore NATO, territory. He was later taken to Moscow and accused of espionage. The incident itself involved communications jamming and the use of smoke grenades, and took place immediately after President Obama’s visit to the region and his repetition of security assurances to the Baltic States. Had the incident resulted in loss of life there could have been dangerous and uncontrolled escalation.

 

  Between 17-27 October 2014 a major submarine hunt by Swedish authorities was prompted by credible intelligence reports of “underwater activity” in the Stockholm archipelago in Swedish territorial waters. Supreme Commander General Sverker Göranson underlined that Sweden was ready to use “armed force” to bring the vessel to the surface if necessary. Russia issued denials and attempted to ridicule Swedish concerns. The major search operation stopped on Oct. 24. The Swedish military stated that “foreign underwater activity” had probably taken place, with at least one unidentified vessel involved. This incident represented the biggest anti-submarine operation in Sweden since the Cold War and increased Swedish concerns that more aggressive Russian surveillance and probing operations are under way in breach of international law. Had the submarine been found and force used by Swedish authorities, this may have resulted in casualties and a further Russian military response.       Serious Incidents with Escalation Risk   What we characterise in this report as serious incidents go beyond the previously established pattern of interaction and the near routine cases outlined below and involve close encounters of a more aggressive or unusually provocative nature. As such this category of incident brings a higher level of risk of escalation. We have identified 11 such serious incidents. They include 4 separate cases of the harassment of U.S. and Swedish reconnaissance planes in international airspace by armed Russian fighters; 2 cases of Russian aircraft conducting close overflights over U.S. and Canadian ships in the Black Sea; Russian aircraft violating Swedish airspace on a mock ‘bombing raid’ mission; a mock attack on the Danish island of Bornholm; the practicing of cruise missile attacks against the US mainland; boarding and detention of a Lithuanian fishing vessel accused of illegal fishing in the Barents Sea; and a massive outburst of Russian aviation activity along NATO borders in late October. Each of these incidents could have evolved into a more serious situation, both in terms of possible casualties or broader political and diplomatic consequences. More detail on each incident is presented below:     On 12 April 2014 an unarmed Russian fighter aircraft made 12 passes of the American warship the USS Cook in the Black Sea. Such aggressive behaviour, if repeated by an armed aircraft, could have resulted in the ship commander targeting the aircraft in an act of self-defence.   On April 23 2014 an armed Russian fighter undertook very threatening manoeuvres in the vicinity of an American reconnaissance aircraft in the Sea of Okhotsk. These manoeuvres involved demonstrating that the fighter was armed. Such behaviour is far removed from what would be expected in a relatively routine encounter.   In June 2014 armed Russian aircraft approached the heavily populated Danish island of Bornholm before breaking off in what appears to have been a simulated attack. The Danish intelligence service described the incident as “of a more offensive character than observed in recent years.”  

On 16 July 2014 an armed Russian aircraft intercepted a Swedish surveillance plane conducting operations between Gotland and Latvia in international airspace, and flew within 10 metres of the plane. This indicated a far more aggressive approach to intercepting aircraft than in previous encounters.

 

  On 18 July 2014 an American surveillance plane conducting operations near Kaliningrad was chased into Swedish air-space after being approached by Russian fighters. This evasive action took place without Sweden’s prior approval that the US aircraft could enter Swedish airspace.     In early September, 2014 Russian strategic bombers in the Labrador Sea near Canada practiced cruise missile strikes on the United States. The Russian aircraft stayed outside of Canada’s ADIZ but this was still a provocative move in light of the NATO summit ongoing at the time. Cruise missiles launched from the Labrador Sea would have Ottawa, New York, Washington, Chicago, and the Norfolk Naval Base in range.   On 7 September 2014 HMCS Toronto (a frigate) was buzzed by a Russian aircraft in the Black Sea, with the plane coming within 300 metres of the warship. HMCS Toronto locked its radar on the Russian plane but took no further action as the aircraft was not armed. This incident coincided with larger Russian naval combat training activities near Sevastopol. Such aggressive behaviour, if repeated by an armed aircraft, could have resulted in the ship commander targeting the aircraft in an act of self-defence.   On 17 September 2014 two Russian military aircraft crossed into Swedish air-space south of the island of Oland. The Russian Su-24 bombers intentionally violated Swedish airspace possibly to test the capabilities of the air defence system strengthened after previous incidents. The Swedish Foreign Minister described the incident as the ‘most serious aerial incursion’ in years.   On 19 September 2014 Russian officers detained a Lithuanian shipping vessel in international waters in the Barents Sea, subsequently towing it to Murmansk. This represented a clear escalation in Russian attempts at the provocation and intimidation of the Baltic States.     On 3 October 2014 a Russian fighter flew “within metres” of Swedish surveillance aircraft in the Baltic in an incident deemed “unusually provocative”. A collision between the aircraft would have had serious repercussions for bilateral relations and increased military tensions across the entire Baltic area.   From 28-30 October 2014 Russia conducted a major air exercise in the North Sea, Atlantic, Black Sea and Baltic Sea. In a series of developments, aircraft from NATO states and partners tracked Russian long-range bombers conducting missions across this entire area, including a large formation of Russian fighters and bombers conducting missions over the Baltic Sea. All missions were conducted in international airspace but their scale and use of different kinds of aircraft and different zones of operation has added significantly to increased tensions between NATO and Russia.   SOURCE: http://www.europeanleadershipnetwork.org/medialibrary/2014/11/09/6375e3d...     Serious Incidents with Escalation Risk
    Near Collision between Russian military jet and Commercial Airliner Date: 12/12/14 States Involved: Sweden; Russia Geographical Region: Baltic Incident Details: A Russian military aircraft, flying without using its transponders, flies within close proximity of a commercial carrier south of Malmo. Russia has denied that the incident was a danger. Category: Serious. Such incidents represent a credible threat to life; Swedish Defence Minister Peter Hultqvist said "This is serious. This is inappropriate. This is outright dangerous when you turn off the transponder."   Air/Naval Incident Date: Early March 2015 States Involved: Russia; US; Turkey Geographical Region: Black Sea Incident Details: Russian fighter bombers are using NATO warships in the Black Sea to practice attack scenarios. Category: Serious. Such actions risk provoking a more proactive defensive response from the captains of these ships should they feel endangered.     Routine incidents keep on reading at the source.   SOURCE: http://www.europeanleadershipnetwork.org/medialibrary/2015/03/11/4264a5a...       https://stopputinregime.wordpress.com/
Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:22 | 5981043 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Ah, newsoutlet viedoklis, you are posting the same drivels to repeation. Hard to believe that so many reruns earn a potato.

Is Latvian TV the same, showing endless reruns of a show with only half dozen of episodes?

Are you so resources lacking that you cannot come with a new drivel? Not a better drivel, as you've shown that not possible, but at least a different drivel.

For the sake of the Latvian taco at least give a try.

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 01:29 | 5981420 Jano
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....American surveillance plane conducting operations near Kaliningrad was chased ....

tell me what the hell has zionist surveilance plane to do on russian border 7000 miles away from judaic Jew Yourk??????

thanks for swift answer.

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 02:22 | 5981477 basho
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Free Occupied Latvia!

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 07:03 | 5981588 Winston of Oceania
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Go ahead, make my day...

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:22 | 5980621 newsoutlet
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putin regime scared of truth

 

Criminal putin regime can only be at power if people are brainwashed by putin regime lies propaganda spell. So this mean putin regime must attack truth and stop it in any possible way. So it can get ugly & funny in same time.

Here are some examples to start with - but I'll add some others in time - putin regime won't let us down ;)

The moment Valentina Lisitsa says she supported Euromaidan Russia's RT immediately "loses" her signal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6ZiFErxRMg&feature=youtu.be&t=8m39s

“Stranger things have happened” Journalists literally cut an article out of their newspaper about a Russian soldier fighting in Ukraine

But censorship goes further - even though is censored. You can't express your self as an artist if it's against putin regime brainwashing program:

Thousands protest in Novosibirsk for artistic freedom

In TV shows controlled by putin regime - if you manage to get there to speak your mind against putin regime - you will be over run by screams so that your voice won't be heard.

https://youtu.be/sbHh6GBM6AM?t=6m41s

And putin regime not only censors truth but creates lies after lies after lies to brainwash people minds - both in west and at home.

Reports of 10-year-old killed in Ukraine 'made up'

Sputnik News or manure for feeble minds

 

https://stopputinregime.wordpress.com

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:25 | 5980635 newsoutlet
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putin troll army attacks you

https://stopputinregime.wordpress.com/

 

These days you have to understand that even people in west are attacked by putin regime - by putin regime propaganda and it's paid trolls.

You can learn about this fact from these articles:

  1. One Professional Russian Troll Tells All
  2. The Kremlin's Troll Army
    Moscow is financing legions of pro-Russia Internet commenters. But how much do they matter?
  3. Ukraine conflict: Inside Russia's 'Kremlin troll army'
  4. The Kremlin's troll army
  5. Documents Show How Russia’s Troll Army Hit America
  6. Kremlin Troll Army Shows Russia Isn't Charlie Hebdo

These trolls act at news articles, many at putin regime propaganda assets such as zerohedge.com Also they attack you at youtube videos and other news portals with their propaganda lies. So you simply must be aware of their existence and be ready to detect a kremlin troll. They are aggressive, manipulating, no respect to other opinion and pro-putin agenda.

 

So remember when you encounter putin paid troll – than don’t go into disccusion – because there is no point doing so. Because he knows that he is lying – that is why he gets paid.

Only time when you should communicate is to post more materials revealing putin regime crimes & lies.

 

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 23:24 | 5981301 radiobomb
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....& the NSA trolls are feeding the otherside of the propaganda machine.

who has more trolls; usa or ru ?......

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 00:46 | 5981385 Element
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How Russia Is Revolutionizing Information Warfare
 
September 9, 2014 By Peter Pomerantsev The Atlantic
 
Putin's Russia doesn’t just deal in the petty disinformation, forgeries, lies and cyber-sabotage usually associated with information warfare. It reinvents reality.

 

By Peter Pomerantsev
 
At the NATO summit in Wales last week, General Philip Breedlove, the military alliance’s top commander, made a bold declaration. Russia, he said, is waging “the most amazing information warfare blitzkrieg we have ever seen in the history of information warfare.”
 
It was something of an underestimation. The new Russia doesn’t just deal in the petty disinformation, forgeries, lies, leaks, and cyber-sabotage usually associated with information warfare. It reinvents reality, creating mass hallucinations that then translate into political action. Take Novorossiya, the name Vladimir Putin has given to the huge wedge of southeastern Ukraine he might, or might not, consider annexing. The term is plucked from tsarist history, when it represented a different geographical space. Nobody who lives in that part of the world today ever thought of themselves as living in Novorossiya and bearing allegiance to it—at least until several months ago. Now, Novorossiya is being imagined into being: Russian media are showing maps of its ‘geography,’ while Kremlin-backed politicians are writing its ‘history’ into school textbooks. There’s a flag and even a news agency (in English and Russian). There are several Twitter feeds. It’s like something out of a Borges story—except for the very real casualties of the war conducted in its name.
 
The invention of Novorossiya is a sign of Russia’s domestic system of information manipulation going global. Today’s Russia has been shaped by political technologists—the viziers of the system who, like so many post-modern Prosperos, conjure up puppet political parties and the simulacra of civic movements to keep the nation distracted as Putin’s clique consolidates power. In the philosophy of these political technologists, information precedes essence. “I remember creating the idea of the ‘Putin majority’ and hey, presto, it appeared in real life,” Gleb Pavlovsky, a political technologist who worked on Putin’s election campaigns but has since left the Kremlin, told me recently. “Or the idea that ‘there is no alternative to Putin.’ We invented that. And suddenly there really was no alternative.”
 
“If previous authoritarian regimes were three parts violence and one part propaganda,” argues Igor Yakovenko, a professor of journalism at the Moscow State Institute of International Relations, “this one is virtually all propaganda and relatively little violence. Putin only needs to make a few arrests—and then amplify the message through his total control of television.”
 
We saw a similar dynamic at work on the international stage in the final days of August, when an apparent Russian military incursion into Ukraine—and a relatively minor one at that—was made to feel momentously threatening. Putin invoked the need for talks on the statehood of southeastern Ukraine (with language that seemed almost purposefully ambiguous), leaving NATO stunned and Kiev intimidated enough to agree to a ceasefire. Once again, the term ‘Novorossiya’ made its way into Putin’s remarks, creating the sense that large territories were ready to secede from Ukraine when, in reality, the insurgents hold only a sliver of land. (For an earlier example of these geopolitical tricks, see Dmitry Medvedev’s presidency from 2008 to 2012, when Russia’s decoy leader inspired American faith in the possibility of a westward-facing Russia while giving the Kremlin time to cement power at home and entrench its networks abroad.)
 
* * *
 
The belief in the absolute power of propaganda has roots in Soviet thinking. Jacques Ellul, in his classic 1965 study of the subject, wrote, “The Communists, who do not believe in human nature but only in the human condition, believe that propaganda is all-powerful, legitimate (whenever they employ it), and instrumental in creating a new type of man.”
 
But there is one great difference between Soviet propaganda and the latest Russian variety. For the Soviets, the idea of truth was important—even when they were lying. Soviet propaganda went to great lengths to ‘prove’ that the Kremlin’s theories or bits of disinformation were fact. When the U.S. government accused the Soviets of spreading disinformation—such as the story that the CIA invented AIDS as a weapon—it would cause howls of outrage from top Russian figures, including General Secretary Mikhail Gorbachev.
 
In today’s Russia, by contrast, the idea of truth is irrelevant. On Russian ‘news’ broadcasts, the borders between fact and fiction have become utterly blurred. Russian current-affairs programs feature apparent actors posing as refugees from eastern Ukraine, crying for the cameras about invented threats from imagined fascist gangs. During one Russian news broadcast, a woman related how Ukrainian nationalists had crucified a child in the eastern Ukrainian city of Sloviansk. When Alexei Volin, Russia’s deputy minister of communications, was confronted with the fact that the crucifixion story was a fabrication, he showed no embarrassment, instead suggesting that all that mattered were ratings. “The public likes how our main TV channels present material, the tone of our programs,” he said. “The share of viewers for news programs on Russian TV has doubled over the last two months.” The Kremlin tells its stories well, having mastered the mixture of authoritarianism and entertainment culture. The notion of ‘journalism,’ in the sense of reporting ‘facts’ or ‘truth,’ has been wiped out. In a lecture last year to journalism students at Moscow State University, Volin suggestedthat students forget about making the world a better place. “We should give students a clear understanding: They are going to work for The Man, and The Man will tell them what to write, what not to write, and how this or that thing should be written,” he said. “And The Man has the right to do it, because he pays them.”
 
The point of this new propaganda is not to persuade anyone, but to keep the viewer hooked and distracted—to disrupt Western narratives rather than provide a counternarrative. It is the perfect genre for conspiracy theories, which are all over Russian TV. When the Kremlin and its affiliated media outlets spat out outlandish stories about the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 over eastern Ukraine in July—reports that characterized the crash as everything from an assault by Ukrainian fighter jets following U.S. instructions, to an attempted NATO attack on Putin’s private jet—they were trying not so much to convince viewers of any one version of events, but rather to leave them confused, paranoid, and passive—living in a Kremlin-controlled virtual reality that can no longer be mediated or debated by any appeal to ‘truth.’
 
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Now Russia is exporting its reality-reinventing model through the hundreds of millions of dollars that it spends on international broadcasters like the rolling, multilingual news channel RT (Russia Today). Domestically, RT helps convince Russians that their government is strong enough to compete with the CNNs of the world. In the United States, RT isn’t taken too seriously (if the channel manages to sow some doubt among Americans, all the better in Moscow’s view). But in Europe, Russian propaganda is more potent, working alongside the Kremlin’s influence over local media as well as economic and energy pressures.
 
The situation is tensest in the Baltic countries, whose large Russian populations are serviced by Russian-language TV channels like the Latvia-based PBK, which receives Kremlin programs at very low rates. ‘‘Huge parts of our population live in a separate reality created by Russian media,” says Raul Rebane, an expert on propaganda in Estonia, where a quarter of the population is ethnic Russian. “This makes consensual politics impossible.” In his research on how Bulgarian media covered the conflict in Ukraine, Christo Grozev, of the Bulgaria-based Risk Management Lab, found that the majority of the country’s newspapers followed Russian rather than Ukrainian narratives about events such as the downing of Flight MH17. “It’s not merely a case of sympathy or language,” Grozev says. “The Russian media just tell more and better stories, and that’s what gets reprinted.” Organizations like the Ukraine-based StopFake.org have been working hard to expose disinformation in Russian and foreign media. But for every ‘fake’ they catch, Kremlin-allied news outlets produce a thousand more. These news organizations don’t care if they’re caught in a lie. They care only about clicks and being compelling.
 
Like its domestic equivalents, RT also focuses on conspiracy theories—from 9/11 truthers to thehidden Zionist hand in Syria’s civil war. Western critics often snigger at these claims, but the coverage has a receptive audience. In a recent paper, “The Conspiratorial Mindset in the Age of Transition,” which examined conspiracy theories in France, Hungary, and Slovakia, a team of researchers from leading European think tanks reported that supporters of far-right parties tend to be more likely than supporters of other parties to believe in conspiracies. And right-wing nationalist parties, which are often allied ideologically and financially with the Kremlin, are rising. In Hungary, Jobbik is now the second-largest political party. In France, Marine Le Pen’s National Front recently won 25 percent of the vote in elections for the European parliament.
 
“Is there more interest in conspiracy theories because far-right parties are growing, or are far-right parties growing because more conspiracy thinking is being pumped into the information space?” asks Gleb Pavlovsky, a little wickedly.
 
The United States, meanwhile, is struggling with its messaging to the outside world. America is in an “information war and we are losing that war,” Hillary Clinton told Congress in 2011, citing the success of Russian and Chinese media.
 
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Just as the Kremlin’s international propaganda campaign intensifies, the West is having its own crisis of faith in the idea of ‘truth.’ It’s been a long time coming. Back in 1962, Daniel Boorstin, who would later serve as librarian of the U.S. Congress, wrote in The Image about how advances in advertising and television meant, “The question, ‘Is it real?’ is less important than, ‘Is it newsworthy?’ … We are threatened by a new and a peculiarly American menace … the menace of unreality.” By the 2000s, this idea had moved from the realm of commerce to the realm of high politics, captured in the now-legendary quote from an unnamed George W. Bush aide in The New York Times: “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors … and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”
 
The pressure on reality from capitalism and Capitol Hill coincides with an anti-establishment drive in the U.S. that likewise claims that all truth is relative. In a Prospect magazine review of Glenn Greenwald’s No Place to Hide, for instance, George Packer writes, “Greenwald has no use for the norms of journalism. He rejects objectivity, as a reality and an ideal.” (Similarly, RT’s managing director once told me that “there is no such thing as objective reporting.”) Examining the sins of omission, biased value judgments, and half-truths in Greenwald’s book, Packer concludes that “they reveal a mind that has liberated itself from the basic claims of fairness. Once the norms of journalism are dismissed, a number of constraints and assumptions fall away.” The ties that bind Greenwald and the Kremlin consist of more than a shared desire to ensure Edward Snowden’s safety. In some dark, ideological wood, Putin the authoritarian gay-basher and Greenwald the gay, leftist-libertarian meet and agree. And as the consensus for reality-based politics fractures, that space becomes ripe for exploitation. It’s precisely this trend that the Kremlin hopes to exploit.
 
Ultimately, many people in Russia and around the world understand that Russian political parties are hollow and Russian news outlets are churning out fantasies. But insisting on the lie, the Kremlin intimidates others by showing that it is in control of defining ‘reality.’ This is why it’s so important for Moscow to do away with truth. If nothing is true, then anything is possible. We are left with the sense that we don’t know what Putin will do next—that he’s unpredictable and thus dangerous. We’re rendered stunned, spun, and flummoxed by the Kremlin’s weaponization of absurdity and unreality.

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 02:20 | 5981473 basho
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r u a paid troll?

if so u r overpaid.

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:26 | 5980640 newsoutlet
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Mass grave of russian soldiers on Russia teritory, Rostov

 

Another proof of putin lies.

Here you can find mass graves that appeared in Rostov

You can find it by your self using this site:

http://www.gps-coordinates.net/

And these are coordinates:

47°19'4.36"N

39°42'6.36"E.

Using Google Earth -  here is timeline of this place:


2. July, 2014

29. September, 2014

original source of info https://twitter.com/RuslanLeviev/status/582129917430759424

 

https://stopputinregime.wordpress.com/

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:47 | 5980679 forputin
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russians are superior race - the only pure race left! Hi Putin!

https://youtu.be/Pxyq83Y7Ods

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 19:05 | 5980745 Max Steel
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Weve not forgotten you an obvious troll . 

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 00:43 | 5981383 Element
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Pot, kettle, say g'day.

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 01:39 | 5981431 IridiumRebel
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We are all trolls now....

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 02:39 | 5981490 Element
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apparently

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:46 | 5980685 knukles
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#nailgunsforpeace

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:49 | 5980698 bugs_
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It can be done!

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 19:13 | 5980761 Niall Of The Ni...
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Of course they're prepared---to run like rabbits at the first sight of a real army. What else are they expected to do? Point a broomstick at a Russian tank and shout *BANG*?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 20:08 | 5980881 safedisk
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Interesting article about the history of the proposed EU agreement with the Ukriane.

 

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/war-in-ukraine-a-result-of-mi...

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