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Greece Releases Graphic Footage From Nazi Occupation, Ups WWII Reparations Pressure
Having demanded EUR 278.7 billion from Germany for WWII reparations, which was quickly eschewed by Germany, Greece has decided to up the ante. As KeepTalkingGreece reports, Greek Defense Ministry has published a video with rare footage from the occupation of Greece by the Nazis during the World War II. Among others, the footage shows children suffering from malnutrition and emaciated adults, victims of the Great Famine during the Nazi occupation. The video is designed to provide context for the huge claim and the video voice-over states that the Enforced Loan by the Nazis was to blame for the mass starvation of estimated 300,000 people in Athens alone.
As KeepTalkingGreece reports, the video states:
“The agreement of 14. March 1942 foresaw that Greece paid to its occupiers 1.5 billion drachmas per month, a total of 3.5 billion USD, according to the Dollar value of 1938. The current value of the enforced loan is 54 billion euro without the interest. The agreement had to be implemented retrospectively as of 1.1. 1942.
The agreement was signed by Germany and Italy and Greece was notified later.
Two agreement modifications were added on 2. December 1942, with the effect that Germany had to start repaying the loan by April 1943.
Germany paid back two installments only.
In the Peace Paris Treaties (1947) Greece claimed 14 billion USD in war reparations, but the allies reduced the Greek claim down to 7.1 billion USD.”
Video: from the Archive of the Greek War Museum (Deputy Defense Minister Kostas Isychos had recently announced that ministry was in possession of the s-called Wehrmacht- Archive, an archive of 400,000 records of the German occupation, was currently in the process of digitization. therefore, I am not sure if the filmed material is from the Wehrmacht Archive.)
According to the video “Greece lost 13% of its population during the WWII. One part was lost in the battlefield, but the largest part due to Famine and the Nazis’ atrocities.”
The Great Famine, the period of mass starvation during the occupation of Greece by the powers of Axis – the fascist Italy and the Nazi Germany – hit especially the urban areas and some islands. The Great Famine was initiated by a large scale plunder by the Axis forces and as soon as the German army entered Athens 0n 27. April 1941. The Nazis confiscated fuel and all means of transportation, including fishing boats, preventing any transfer of food and other supplies and seized strategic industries. They proceeded with the wholesale and food looting , unemployment and hyperinflation skyrocketed, the black market flourished. The price of bread was increased 89-fold from April 1941 to June 1942.
During the winter of 1941-1942, the food supplies system had collapsed, the famine was in its peak and mortality exploded.
According to the records of the German army the mortality rate only in Athens reached 300 deaths per day during December 1941, while the estimates of the Red Cross were much higher, at 400 deaths while in some days the death toll reached 1,000.
Next to Famine, the atrocities committees by the Nazi occupiers against the locals ended up in the “murdering of residents in 89 cities and villages, they burned down more than 1,700 villages and killed many of their residents,” so the Defense Ministry video.
The Defense Ministry concludes its narration noting that “Italy paid its share in WWII reparations but Germany did not.”
Last year, Greece concluded a large scale investigation about its claim on WWII reparations to be paid by Germany. The new Greek government made the issue one of its top priorities. Deputy Finance Minister Dimitris Mardas declared the Greek claim was 278.7 billion euro.
Germany vehemently rejects the Greek claims even thought without legally convincing arguments.
Greece is expected to bring up the issue again and again with whatever tools it has in its hands. Until it decides to solve the issue in the courts.
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For the Germans, it appears this topic is not going away anytime soon
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NEIN! NEIN! NEIN!
So the Krauts are doin' the same shit all over again to the under peoples, huh?
Time for the Grexit.
Not to mention Fraudulent Conveyance
Hello blondie. Thank you for your payment for civilization. To the rest of the world, from Greece: You're welcome!
6,000,000 Greeks? Who knew?
Yea, I watched it.
Still better than modern US policing. I pine for the good ol' days of Nazi atrocities; at least you weren't paying them for the beating/execution/pet murder/being burned alive.
And they even took care of burials afterwards.
How far we've fallen.
Totally bollocks claim of course, but I like the recursiveness of this situation. A large cause of WW2 was inflated reparation payments. And now the Greeks wish to venture down this road again.
"In the Peace Paris Treaties (1947) Greece claimed 14 billion USD in war reparations, but the allies reduced the Greek claim down to 7.1 billion USD"
So, do we even know if this was honored, or not?
Let me guess they are going to tell us that they were gassed in buildings that have open ventilation as well now too.
Since when is punishing the children for the mistakes of the father a guiding principle in the modern era? That honestly sounds like some sort ancient era Semitic idea. Something the Muslims and Jews would do.
Is it me or does it seem like Greece is grasping at straws here? I guess time and circumstance changes all people's minds.
Like strapping a child with his father's debt?
or a country's debt
~“Greece lost 13% of its population during the WWII. One part was lost in the battlefield, but the largest part due to Famine and the Nazis’ atrocities.”~
But you climbed in bed with them after, taking their money in the form of loans, didn't you? And so now you don't want to pay them back, eh? Tough shit, you feta-farting fucks! So heads up, Greece! As noted elsewhere, Germany is currently long Leopard IIs.
Everyone should have seen this coming. Syriza is leftist. The left's entire Ideology revolves around the victimhood of groups and the class struggle for the poor. I've always said that I was surprised they hadn't used the victim card yet.
"" Totally bollocks claim of course ""
you're right and germans can't afford to fund Greece and shoulder 1 third of the cost of submarines for jizrael
http://sputniknews.com/military/20150410/1020708138.html
fuck ze germans
When the banksters are given a choice between their f*cking MONEY and some vague sense of guilt for something their grandparents did, is there any doubt which way they'll choose?
I see this more as an indication of Greece's desperation. I wonder what they'll come up with when this fails.
Just Grexit, and get this shitshow over with.
Israel needs to insure the next time they attack a "USS Liberty" that the actually sink it. That's why they got stealthy German subs.
i'm hoping there's a plc with a payload on board, would be great to see the little goat fuckers get done in by their own worm.
I often wonder if the Germans are forced into playing this game due to the past. Of course many German people protest the arms industry, and it is often a big debate if they should be producing arms to sell. But, as with all first world nations, industry does as it pleases and the populace can deal with the fallout.
I wonder who is paying for the other 2/3rds? ;-P
Well, if you insist on denying this happened we are going to have to bring you to trial where you will not be able to offer any evidence to the contrary and then you get 10 years in prison. That's what a free society does when it has nothing to hide.
Yes , Free Sylvia Stolz ! Then pay her some "reparations"
Will the Greeks provide some kind of restitution for the 150,000+ killed during Greek on Greek violence during the Greek Civil War that followed WW2? Or are their lives more unworthy because they were killed in a domestic dispute?
Ummm, as far as this isn't a bilateral but a domestic issue, yes there's an obvious difference there. Internal conflicts are not the subject matter for any international organization, after all.
When you bring up Hitler and Nazis that's the first sign you've lost the argument... oh, and that you're historical frame of reference only goes back 80 years or so.
Generally, yes, that means that you've lost the argument. Except that it is possible for another monster to rise to power. If you fail to make the Hitler and Nazi argument as it is happening while that monster is coming to power, what then? Claiming that you've always lost the argument when bringing up Hitler is why people like Hitler can come to power. It is the same thing as saying "it can never happen here" or "it will never happen again." It is an argument from incredulity that just happens to be correct most of the time, but it will not be correct all of the time.
As for war reparations, that was 70ish years ago. How many living Greeks even remember it? How many living Germans perpetrated it? This is a move of desperation from the Greeks. Just Grexit and shift to an agricultural economy already.
El Vaquero you are making an assumption(yes I know based on a lifetime of endless propaganda and lies) and ad hominem attack by calling Adolph Hitler a monster, just because he lost the war against overwhelming odds and therefore is subject to the "Victors Version" of events . If you look a little closer at the man, he was a survivor of vicious abuse by his father , he was a genuine "volunteer hero" as a regular foot soldier who was wounded and gassed in the trenches and he was passionate about correcting the injustices of the banker tribe rape of his nation at the end of world war 1. His motivation was in the main the honorable and passionate protection of his people , his tribe. Whats so "monstrous" about that ? Was he not the most loved leader in history ? Flawed definitely like all great men but how come Churchill, Eisenhower , Roosevelt and Truman are not automatically called monsters because they indisputably were ? Maybe its a pity there do not seem to be Anglo/Saxon/Vikings around these days with an equal passion for protecting and nurturing their tribe , cos, you know, "diversity"
I was recently flying for work, and had the fortune (or misfortune after she opened her mouth) of speaking to a beautiful young British girl. I asked her what was her favorite part of visiting the capitol German city. Her response was, "the hard rock cafe." After which she proceeded to tell me how the Germans learned history incorrectly.
I had to remind her that they learned their version, plus the version told by the victors. Whereas she had only learned her countries version.
Needless to say, I didnt get that handy on the plane i was hoping for.
I suppose the German Jews who also fought along Hitler in WWI were of his tribe too, no? And what about the German Jews who weren't bankers but simply shopkeepers? Kristalnacht and the Nuremburg Laws weren't benefiting them too much...I guess they weren't German enough.
And this was before the "dual citizen" canard the anti-Jewish ZH folks like to throw around here.
Sometimes, Occam's Razor really does apply.
Yet, on the European front, it was the German army that rolled first. Fuck Hitler. And fuck the treaty of Versailles that set the stage for him to come to power.
The Greeks know damn well they aren't going to receive any reps from Germany. The value in raising the reparations canard is to infuse Europe, and the Greek citizenry, with a sense of equity regarding the present crushing austerity being imposed upon the Greeks by the self-same monsters from the North. It is, in a word, your argument precisely. Remember then; Hear us now.
I agree, EV. This notion that citing Hitler or the Nazis means one has lost the argument is stupid, as is any artifical constraint on argument, thought or debate. The fact is that people are more likely to know about WWII history than any other historical era*, and references to it are commonly known or understood.
*(Here's where visitors from Storm come and say that we do not know the true history of WWII.)
Nazism: History is repeating itself in Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaaiTZk6Dig
When I was a young lientenant on cav border duty in W Germany, I would brief new troop on the monuments throughout the country saying that despite the eagles and swastikas in the cemetaries, these graves were for the farmers and country people who were generally not members of the Nazi Party. Instead they were drafted to defend their country. To blame all young Germans is bullshit, always was, always will be. They didn't have a Canada to run off to to avoid the draft. They entered German military service, fought and died.
When you bring up Hitler and Nazis that's the first sign you've lost the argument...is true when using it as a hyperbolic comparison to a modern day argument. It's OK to bring up Hitler and the Nazis when you are specifically talking about ...Hitler and the Nazis.
The 6M figure has been bandied about since 1915*.
If the Greeks had outstanding claims, they should have raised them sooner. Time's up.
* Ref. 1
Sat, 02/07/2015 - 22:42 | 5757461 COSMOS
My position is that one cannot trust the numbers pushed by the media owned by the Khazars. The 6 million number has been pushed around before ww2. Several people here have made posts and links to that effect. As far as wars go, no doubt the Rothschild banking family has profited from wars on European soil. If you can make a profit from wars why not finance them or help push them along. Especially since when the aristocracy in many of these European countries was the only well educated and organized opposition to cliques formed by the Khazars to the detriment of Christian nations and business people. The world wars have seen the fall of the aristocracy in Europe and the rise of a bureaucrat class that is easily manipulated and bribed, thus what one has in modern European countries is an unorganized mass of people unable to check the tentacles of the Khazars even though they vastly outnumber them. Add to that the constand drone of yelling 'thats anti-semetic' and 'one must remember the...' pseudo holocaust whenever one tries to stop the power grab, and its pretty obvious how we got to where we are today.
* Ref. 2
Sat, 04/04/2015 - 16:03 | 5959175 Kirk2NCC1701
How sad when a People are used for political agenda and propaganda of a powerful and ruthless Elite. For example, there have always been "6 MILLION" getting attacked or killed (since 1915), thanks to the propaganda machine of global Zionists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk
There weren't six million Jews in Germany in those days. These death figures have been revised downward several times by official Jewish sources.
good thing they dont have to feed them.
"Genius, genius, genius!"
YAY!!!!! More "Hate the Germans" bullshit...
1. Why is it, that the so-called Holocaust is the ONLY historical event where mere debate can result in a prison sentence?
2. For all you Americans out there: I'm sure you've heard a thousand times about "how many Jews died in WWII". Here's a question: How many Americans died in WWII? Try to answer it without Googling it.
I'm tired of all you so-called victims.
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize. - Voltaire
I'd give you a hundred more upvotes if I could. Everyone needs to watch "The Greatest Story NEVER Told" on youtube.
didn't google it: estimated 400,000 Americans killed, 1.5 million injured. Estimated killed in WWII: 60 million Estimated jews killed: 6 million.
3. For ALL you 'Americans': how many natives were killed during the colonization and westward expansion since 1776 ?
4. For ALL you 'latin Americans': how many natives were enslaved and killed during the colonization and expansion of the Western Hemispere?
HINT: Anglos did not enslave or kill a fifth of those that the latins -French, Portuguese, Spanish- did in the Western Hemisphere. Take a good look at the present geopgraphy.
not all of us -_-
But..., I thought the consensus on ZH was that this never happened?
Not presuming to speak for EVERYONE here, but I humbly suggest that any related 'dispute', tentatively proffered from the minds of people capable of deductive reasoning, has more to do with wildly exaggerated numbers & media frenzied HORROR, [whilst suppressing other concurrent & historical 'HAPPENINGS'].
Peace, out
Sure, the Germans have made a few mistakes, but that’s why pencils have erasers! -Lenny, the Simpsons.
The programming goes deep & covers ALL proxies...
BEAT STREET ~ Grandmaster Flash & Melle Mel [1984]
"Christians killed Muslims, and Germans killed Jews"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_ShwO10d6g
Beat Street Breakdown, Raah!
Hip Hop!
Beat Street
The king of the beat
You see him rocking that beat from across the street
And Huh Huh!
Beat Street is a lesson too, because you can't let the Streets beat you!
Well a picture can express a thousand words to describe all the beauty of life you give
And if the world was yours to do over, I know you'd paint a better place to live
Where the colours would swirl and the boys and girls can grow in peace and harmony
And where murals stand on walls so grand as far as the eyes are able to see, Ha!
I never knew art til I saw your face and there'll never be one to take your place
'Cause each and every time you touch the spray paint can
Michelangelo's soul controls your hand
Then serenades of blue and red and the beauty of the rainbow fills your head
Crescendo of colours hang in tune, Man why oh why d'ya have to die so soon?
Ashes to ashes and dust to dust, where the good die young it's all thy must
'Cause as life must live, death must die and the tear shall fall from the living eye, Huh!
The teardrops fall for the state of mind of the beautiful lady that you left behind
In love and alone, but now you're dead, and she still can't get you out of her head, Huh!
More tears fall for all you've done, trying to be a good father to your only son
But now who's gonna make sure that he's fed, put a shirt on his back and a roof overhead?
Tell me who's gonna dream the impossible dream of the beautiful cities in the islands genes?
When your works of art brought into being all that the ghetto stopped you from seeing
Bums on the sidewalk, garbage in the streets, abandoned buildings, bricks of concrete
The ladies on the corner are selling their bodies, and everybody wants a part in that party
I'm hanging out tough, rocking late at night, running wild in the town of the neon light
You either play some ball or stand in the hall Huh!
You gotta make something outta nothing at all
I'm sitting in the classroom learning the rules and it says you can't do graffiti in school
They can't be wrong in the hallowed hall, so my notebook turned into a brick wall
The heart of a lion and the courage of three, and the mind of a man much wiser than me
You're the soul of the brother who won't come back
Who died in my arms on the railroad track
'Cause I'm caught in the rat race, looking for my own space
There's gotta be a better place for you and me
There's pie in the sky, and an eye for an eye
Some people gotta die just to be free
You search for justice and what do you find?
You find just us on the unemployment line
You find just us sweating from dawn to dusk
There's no justice, there's Huh, just us, Ha!
Still life urban masterpiece, your trademark was written on trains and walls
A million dollar gift only God released, and yet you got killed for nothing at all
So after this there'll be no more hard times, no more bad times and no more pain
No more chump change, none of that bull
Just movies, museums and the hall of fame
So all you Hip Hops get on up, and let's take it to the top where we belong
'Cause the age of the Beat Street wave is here
Everybody let's sing along, now c'mon, say 'Ho!' ('Ho!'), Say 'Ho!' ('Ho!')
And to let me know I'm rocking the microphone everybody say 'Ramo!' ('Ramo!')
'Ramo!' ('Ramo!')
Raah!
A newspaper burns in the sand, and the headlines say 'Man destroys Man!'
Extra! Extra! Read all the bad news on the war for peace that everybody would lose
The rise and fall, the last great empire, the sound of the whole world caught on fire
The ruthless struggle, the desperate gamble
The game that left the whole world in shambles
The cheats, the lies, the alibis
And the foolish attempt to conquer the skies
Lost in space, and what is it worth, huh?
The president just forgot about Earth
Spending multi billions, and maybe even trillions
The cost of weapons ran into zillions
There's gold in the street, and diamonds under feet
And the children in Africa don't even eat
Flies on their faces, they're living like mice
And the houses even make the ghetto look nice, Huh!
The water tastes funny, it's forever too sunny
And they work all month and don't make no money
A fight for power, a nuclear shower
And people shout out in the darkest hour
Of sights unseen and voices unheard
And finally the bomb gets the last word
Christians killed Muslims, and Germans killed Jews
And everybody's bodies are used and abused, Huh!
Minds are poisoned and souls are polluted
Superiority complex is deep rooted
Leeches and lice's, and people got prices
Egomaniacs control the self-righteous
Nothing is sacred and nothing is pure
So the revelation of death is our cure
Hitler and Caesar, Custer and Reagan
Napoleon, Castro, Mussolini and Begin
Ghengis Khan and the Shah of Iran
Mixed with the blood of the weaker man
The peoples in terror, the leaders made the error
And now they can't even look in the mirror
'Cause we gotta suffer while things get rougher
And that's the reason why we got to get tougher
To learn from the past and work for the future
And don't be a slave to no computer
'Cause the Children of Man inherits the land
And the future of the world is in your hands
So just throw your hands in the air
And wave 'em like you just don't care
And if you believe that you're the future
Scream it out and say 'Oh yeah!' ('Oh yeah!')
'Oh yeah!' ('Oh yeah!')
Raah!
Beat Street Breakdown
Raah!
Hip Hop!
Poor muslims.
The nerve of the Christians.
Killing all those innocent peace loving Muslims.
Rap music
Proof of rotted brain.
You miss the fucking point you dumbfuck...
Do you really think MUSLIMS owned the record companies that PRODUCED & DISTRIBUTED those tracks?
Try not to open your piehole next time... & stick to sychophancy [which you're more familiar with]...
Millions of Jews and others were liquidated by the Nazi government in other words murdered. Historian David Irving has documented more than 1.25 million executions from original WW2 era German government and military documents. Ironically, this makes him a "Holocaust Denier".
When in desperate doubt... dig up the Nazis. Works every time.
I hate Illinois Nazis
~ Blues Brothers
NoVaIt does?
NEIN!
Works for the History Channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAMgT8LuZaw
Who will be paying reparations for Stalins genocide and the millions of victims of US wars of aggression?
Germany = ATM for everybody with a victim story
Germany = ATM for everybody with a victim story
EXPELL THE FAILED-STATE GREECE FROM THE EU + EZ NOW !!!!!
This is going to backfire for all of Europe...the attempted shaming/extorting of Germany for Nazi crimes. When this topic is no longer taboo for young Germans, the appologies will slowly trickle to a halt as topic fatigue set in. Then, the re-nationlization starts, and the pendulum swings in the other direction.
History, 'tis all.
Can they get a better insignia next time? Maybe an apple with a small bite out of it, or a blue screen of death?
I'm OK with the swastika.
make that a "red, white, and blue screen of death" ... courtesy of those assholes in DC
Young Germans? There are no young Germans. What they need is a Blutauffrischung! Average Age? 46 years! That is not a country of conquerors anymore. You want to see such a country? Look to the Far East where you will find a country with millions of young men that will never have an ordinary relationship with a woman. A country that is now enjoying a period of unknown prosperity. A country that step by step destroys its own environment and fertile soil. That is divided and has had a history of horrible breakups and civil wars. That is reigned by a government that will do anything to deflect anger from it. A country that - according to the BBC - has just increased its military budget by about 10% and where nationalism is still thriving.
Now let's add a real crisis and a hard crash.
Delusional and desperate, like an addict's entitled beliefs.
There is no reparations topic. Syriza is playing with people's food
IMF payment of EUR 457 mio was due yesterday. I think Greece has until the 15th before they're officially defaulting. Hold on to your hard hats.
Greece ups the pressure... Lol, that's fucking funny. That's almost as funny as believing Obama runs the country.
I think the strategy is to become as irritating as possible in hopes that EU caves (unlikely) or Greece gets tossed out of EU (very likely).
Greece has already lined up financial backers, but those backers don't want to be blamed for a Grexit and default.
"We are totally serious about getting a fair deal for the Greek people! Now, we are just gonna take the pension money to keep the lights on for another week, but don't you worry because we are SUPER SERIOUS. Once we say we want reparations, the Germans will have no choice but to fold. Now... about your bank accounts...."
Public opinion is everything Engali. Everything. If people think stawks are great, they are great. If they believe they are shit they are shit. Soros is a master at understand that and knowing the turns in sentiment.
So showing graphic image = putting Germans to shame = bad opinion of Germans = debt reparations.
As long as mass media exists, PR is everything.
The fiat 'money' and the 'loans' are a Ponzi scam. The con meme must be believed in order to get the suckers to fall for it.
A Solution is not within the existing meme.
So, create a new meme.
See, everyone in Europe wants to get along. This is a prime opportunity for greater political and economic integration between EU/Euro nations.
You might was well try to integrate the entire middle east under a single political and economic union. Wouldn't be much harder than this disaster.
It's funny how well everybody is willing to forgive the past and get along until the "money"dries up. Maybe they should drop it from helicopters or something to keep the peace.
Fuck you, Greece. Reparations are not due and they wont save your ass from the villians in Brussels anyway, you lazy fucks. Like you are the only fuckers whose ancestors suffered in history somewhere, yeah right. Go suck ouzo out your boyfriends' assholes.
wow that is graphic, you ok dude?
Germany lost 30% of it's population mostly due to allied bombing that targeted civilians and through starvation during the early years of allied occupation. Do we get to see any pictures of that? Not to mention half the country was given away to the USSR for good measure.
That's the end result when you let a mad-man run your country. Why didn't you people realize Hitler was crazy and have him eliminated? Instead the church, the banks, all the industrial establishment and the military leaders let him murder and destroy nations. Wow!
Hitler was far from mad - he was at most mildly put-out.
His biggest fail was believing his Western banker backers until it was too late.
Say, what's going on in Ukraine today? Don't know why that popped into my head...
So what's you view on the US dropping two nuclear weapons on civilian populaces then?
They should have moved when they had the chance.
Really chinooky?
The major chunk of the casualties were kids. But obviously you think they had some culpability in putting Hitler into power.
"Why don't you people realize Hitler was crazy and have him eliminated". What ever Hitler did " uncle Joe" was ten times as bad. He killed off ten million ukrainians in under two years with tried and true starvation tactic. Why didn't we take care of him also?
"Instead the church, the banks, all the industrial establishment and the military leaders let him murder and destroy nations."
Wallstreet,( Jews)', financed all sides and profited handsomely from it.
and look who came out on top of the world and on top of the shitpile....
That's the end result when you let a mad-man run your country. Why didn't you people realize Hitler was crazy and have him eliminated? Instead the church, the banks, all the industrial establishment and the military leaders let him murder and destroy nations. Wow!
Check out this way awesome dude
Johann Georg Elser
He was a man that got (or tried) things done.
"I considered how to improve the conditions of the workers and avoid a war. For this I was not encouraged by anyone. . . Even from Radio Moscow I never heard that the German government and the regime must be overthrown. I reasoned the situation in Germany could only be modified by a removal of the current leadership, I mean Hitler, Goering and Goebbels. . . I did not want to eliminate Nazism. . . I was merely of the opinion that a moderation in the policy objectives will occur through the elimination of these three men. . .The idea of eliminating the leadership came to me in the fall of 1938. . . I thought to myself that this is only possible if the leadership is together at a rally. From the daily press I gathered that the next meeting of leaders was happening on 8 and 9 November 1938 in Munich in the Bürgerbräukeller.[3]"
I'm American, but ethnically German. The Allies resettled millions of my native people after World War II and I would like a pony please. K thanks.
Read HELLSTORM it's even worse than what you are saying above.
Jesus I can barely make it through the Amazon comments.
pods
Hitler wrote a check with his mouth that his ass couldn't cash
It's obvious. They are on the weight watchers program.
Wow, pretty good at emotional based propaganda these Greeks are. At some point, will generate an unanticipated backlash against Greece I predict.
entitlement culture - always somebody elses fault. I just be da victim.......
Maybe Germany can get Putin to pay reparations for the destruction of Berlin by the Red Army? Maybe Putin can get Germany to pay reparations for the destruction of Stalingrad. Maybe Iran can get Greece to pay reparations for Alexander's capture of Persepolis.
Maybe the Southern states detroyed in the civil war can get them some reparations from the Northerners too......
Where does it stop?
"Where does it stop? "
IT STOPS WHEN NATIONS CANNOT BORROW TO PURCHASE WEAPONS AND MUNITIONS.
IT STOPS WHEN DEFICIT SPENDING STOPS AS POPULACES WILL NEVER WILLINGLY SUFFER AUSTERITY OR HAZARD BANKRUPTING THEMSELVES IN MERE PREPARATION FOR WAR.
IT STOPS WHEN GOVERNMENT IS SMALL, HAS NO LIMITED OR NO RIGHT TO TAX -AND NONE TO BORROW.
IT STOPS WHEN THE INTERNATIONAL BANKERS CAN NO LONGER LEND FOR WAR MATERIALS OR FUND HOSTILITIES.
-THE BANKERS ARE THE PEOPLE THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN TO BE TRIED IN THE COURTS FIRST IN ANY PURSUIT OF REPARATIONS.
IT IS THE BANKERS THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN FIRST TO THE GALLOWS FOR PUNISHMENT.
THE BANKERS ARE FIRST AND FOREMOST CULPABLE FOR FUNDING FOR THEIR PROFIT THE ATROCITIES OF WAR.
WHEN THE .GOV CAN NO LONGRER DEFICIT SPEND OR INCUR DEBT, THE M.I.C. ITSELF WILL BE DEFUNDED WHOLESALE -AND DESTROYED.
THAT IS WHEN IT STOPS.
THE LAST WAR TO BE FOUGHT WILL BE AGAINST WAR MONGERS AND WAR PROFITEERS, THE EVIL AND CROOKED POLITICIANS THAT EMPOWER THE WAR MONGERS AND WAR PROFITEERS -AND BANKERS THAT FUND .GOV DEFICIT SPENDING ON WAR.
THE LAST WAR TO BE FOUGHT WILL BE AGAINST WAR MONGERS AND WAR PROFITEERS, THE EVIL AND CROOKED POLITICIANS THAT EMPOWER THE WAR MONGERS AND WAR PROFITEERS -AND BANKERS THAT FUND .GOV DEFICIT SPENDING ON WAR.
yep.
This seems wrong on so many levels.
So current generation should pay for the mistakes of others? - I don't think so.
Why not? You never owned any slaves in your life yet reparations are demanded from you. You are guilty of the sins of your father.
Friend of mine got 40 acres and a horse. Wanted a mule, but they ran out.
That's so damned true, it actually hurt a little. My family didn't even own slaves (we weren't in the country yet) but I still feel the need to pay reparations. Just because they tell me I should. I feel so guilty,
You feel guilty because of your white privilege. I find drinking a Colt 45, smoking a Swisher Sweet, and watching BET helps me understand the struggle better. Oh yeah, some Al Sharpton podcasts won't hurt.
So much rage! Here, go read about this Negro, it'll make you feel better.*
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/04/10/freelance-comment-of-the-week...
*...and by better, I mean worse. But it is a perfect example of what this shit cuntry has become.
I'm at a loss for words. Any hoping for sanity in this country is a fool's game.
Why aren't decendents of Arab slave traders and African chiefs being hit on for reparations?
The Greeks better be careful, Germany can make things difficult for them after this farce is finally over.
I hope the Germans have a long memory.
No matter how much we drink, we keep remembering..
Could be that we're always reminded of how bad, bad, bad our ancestors were
Fuck Greece. In my house we don't even have Greek Salad anymore. Call it anything else.
Just like American nigs...can't let the past go.
fucking Greeks...
still acting like a bunch of bithces instead of man-ning up and doin whats right for themselves...im sick of headlines about these self afflicted debt serfs of the MoneyChangers...
for the last time mother fuckers...tell the TROIKA to fuck off or fuck off your damn selves....
Those skinny Greeks are what is to come as this government will starve its population..its the Socialist way...my pension..good..your food..bad..
Famine?
So let me get this straight. When the joos are starved to death in camps, it's called a holocaust, but when the greeks are starved to death by the same regime, it's called famine.
I don't see the difference, other than one group is obviously "exceptional".
I think you mean "chosen"
There's a difference: famine in the camps was by design, and it wasn't only "joos", but all sorts of prisoners, but yes, a lot of jews also perished there. And whether it was 6 million jews or "only" 2 or 3 million is entirely irrelevant to me, just as it is entirely irrelevant to me how many "other" prisoners died, whether they were gay or lesbian or whatever. The fact is they died horrible deaths for no justifiable reason whatsoever.
And if the Greeks can show pictures of dying countrymen, so can the Dutch: during the so-called "hongerwinter" of 1944-1945 the nazis still occupied northern parts of Holland, which caused Dutch children and adults alike to die for lack of sufficient nutrition. But I don't see the Dutch suddenly digging up pictures of children that are merely skin and bones, and believe me, those pictures exist and are legit.
I'm so sick and tired of assholes trying to rewrite history. Maybe Zerohedge just isn't the place to be for me anymore.
So the innocent German Civilians that were victims as well don't deserve any attention for dying while the British bombed them indescriminately?
How do you go about your life measuring one group of people above another?
Very good.
Even after the armistice Germany was still blockaded and zero food was allowed until they acquiescenced to all demands.
And hundreds of thousands of German women and children starved as a result. Who all remembers that from Social Studies class?
We are AmeriKKKans. None of that moral equivalency crap here
U-S-A! U-S-A!
Bullshit.
Those camps were work camps and the germans and the banksters needed healthy workers, not a bunch of near death zombies.
The camps were supplied via rail and most of the rail lines were prime targets of the allies. The joos starved to death for the same reason the greeks starved to death, along with countless other europeans who simply had no access to food supplies.
That's it, I'm signing out. This is getting too weird for me. Seems to me ZH has been hijacked by people I certainly don't want to be associated with.
So long then Highly Debtfool, yeah I know its hard to look at new evidence and deal with the fact that you,ve been lied to all your life and that you were,nt born into the "Good Guys" side. Kinda wimpy tho dont you think ?
Your comment makes it easier to go, FMOTL.
yea - after your comment - probabaly time to go.
Are you going to find a site with the motto - "let's all get along " and promises to only reinforce pre conceived notions?
I think the contrary thoughts are interesting - doesn't mean they are always couched in the best of terms. FFS - I've been called to task on some shit and rightly so.
And here they come in 3 2 1
just when u thought your ex-girlfriend had some blackmail-able pictures in her treasure chest just WAITING for that perfect rainy day ...
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The banksters used their fiat Ponzi to steal the wealth of the American people for more than a century. Over this period the value of the dollar has been destroyed by about 98%. In order to hide this theft reality, the banksters have used various schemes - including off shoring good jobs and wealth to China (for cheap slave labor goods). Before this off shoring, China could barely feed their own population. China bought treasuries to keep their trade advantage. In a very short time, at the cost of the US worker, they have gone from 3rd world to one of the most powerful economies in the world and an upcoming global power. Such would not have happened under someone like Mao.
So the American people owe them no debt. Call us even. Jail the banksters.
New memes.
They are the same banksters that helped Hitler come to power and then later helped (I mean loaned money) the destroyed economies rebuild (admittedly at a huge profit). The same banksters who helped fund the American effort in WW1&2 and who today are making trillions in loans to nations who never will repay the money because their currency will be worthless soon. If my history is correct I believe these banksters are just a few wealthy banking families who even today are running rampant around the world causing problems so they can profit from both sides of the issue. When will we wake up and rid ourselves of the central bankers (I mean central bankster thieves)?
How about a Hitler Rant vid on this topic...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsbdVIcyoS0
My German is rusty as hell & I don't read Greek.
Any English translations of the Greek sub-titles ?
They are just trying to FAT SHAME americans with these photos.
A loan to Germany caused a famine in Greece? Sounds legit.
erm ?
and how does it proves ze germen did it ?
i mean ... they're pretty much in the same situation now LOL
The Greeks can end this any time they want. They are like the juvenile delinquent who remains at home, while at the same time declaring himself to be an adult, and independent of the rules of the house.
PAY UP BITCHEZZZZ!!!
German economy minister calls Greek war reparations request 'stupid'
So all the Americans who wrap their Flag around their shoulders, War for Moar, to allow Companies like Monsanto to experiment and control the Worlds food supply. Not fucking likely. Look at the mess that the fight for Monitary controls have left. Hows that working out for Mainstreet USA?
The IMF is being Flushed into the Sewer. How many of our Youth have to Die? Lands polluted from Depleated Uranium (dirty Bombs), And with the Technilodgical American War Machine requiring "New Money" it will come, blood from a stone, as their is not enough $US. in circulation to pay off the Interest on the Debt let alone any of the Principle . Greed is fighting for the crumbs. For The Children..........
NEANDERTHALS DEMAND WAR REPARATIONS FROM CROMAGNON
Dispute will be settled in zoos across Europe. The first to reach the banana wins.
Source: www.financialpaparazzi.com
Sorry,
existing cousins would have no legal standing because their DNA says they would have remained monkeys anyway.
The Germans exterminated nearly all of the Greek Jews, 100% on Crete. That's got to be worth some credit in the financial negotiations, no? I am being sarcastic, btw.
Don't go there
but but but what about the Byzantine Empire's treatment of the Teutons?
Watching this douche-off is wayyyyy more entertaining than "reality" TV.
Pay them in reichsmark. That was the currency that government incurred the debt. Maybe the Greeks will take the hint on the euro.
From Germany to Greece, a collection of sad, defeated nations squatting on the ruins of their ancient civilizations (that can go pound sand).
Here in the states we have mom, apple pie, Fight Club, and we climb the wrist-thick Kudzu vines.
re. Nazis was to blame for the mass starvation of estimated 300,000 people
Chickenfeed.
USSA sanctions in the 1990's resulted in 1MILLION+ Iraqi children dying of "malnutrition"
According to "Mad Maddy" Albright - "It was worth it"
Well here's the tab Maddy:
Seems like Iraq - pro-rata Greece - is due at least 1TRILLION USD.
And thats not counting reparations for the subsequent USSA ILLEGAL IRAQ GROUND WARS. Throw in another few $TRILLION for starters.
Libya & Afghanistan better hurry to the party while ZIO USSA still has a pot to p!ss in.
Hey NuFrankie, Keep that dick in your mouth, because no one needs to hear your idiotic drivel, you fucking retard putz mother fucker
You probably are a typical destitute loser blaming others for your "misfortune" [while simultaneously benefitting from the US help/payments and/or welfare], when in reality it is the lack of your own spine and lack of any intellectual wherewithal that is to blame. You cry foul when others succeed through hard work an perseverance, while you sit idly by with that dick in your mouth/ass and wonder why life has passed you by
You are to be pitied, and to be used as a prime example of why a diseased fetus should be aborted
(Pssst... say brother, can you spare a dime?)
Never join a club that will have you as a member. Or never join a club that will have you dismembered
Funny how we can draw national boundaries in the middle east and africa, obliterating the power bases of entire cultures, but we left the nation of Germany intact. After hitler thise fuckers should have had their national boundaries dissolved and become a captive people forever, a lesson to other megalomaniacs that they will lose everything. The lesson we did send was that jackboot dictators and their peoples need not fear the ultimate price. Fuck nazis then and now.
Studying history is critical.We need to do better at understanding the lessons of history.
Wallowing in perpetual victimhood ISN'T critical! It only leads to a sense of entitlement and vengeance! That only leads to MORE atrocities!!
AWESOME!
Very low blow and unjustified at this point in history. Shameful.
The Jews have stripped mined Austria with cause. No one disputes that and the bill is totally transparent. So why should Greece settle for less?
I blame the Cavemen for this Hairy chest of mine...Now who do I sue?
Depends - are you 1)male 2)female 3) other
The doctor who allowed your hairy ass to exit the womb