This page has been archived and commenting is disabled.

White House Admits, US States Need To Be Better Prepared For Fiscal Volatility

Tyler Durden's picture




 

“What the Great Recession has shown is that things have fundamentally changed,” The White House warned this week and, as Bloomberg reports, states would have to cut spending or raise revenue by a combined $21 billion in the event of a recession, further exacerbating economic weakness, Moody’s Analytics found in a stress test of state finances. While investors are willingly buying bonds with both hands and feet, The White House warns, states "need to be much more prepared for very volatile fiscal conditions than they had been in the past."

 

Tax revenues still lower for many states...

 

"Now’s the time to sock away cash," warns Moody's Daniel White, as Bloomberg reports, U.S. states, still grappling with the lingering effects of the longest recession since the 1930s, are even more vulnerable to another fiscal shock...

The governments have a little more than half the reserves they’d stashed away before the 18-month recession that ended in June 2009, according to a report last month by Pew Charitable Trusts. New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Illinois and Arkansas have saved the least.

 

Skimpier rainy-day funds have implications for the national economy, which is in its sixth year of expansion. States would have to cut spending or raise revenue by a combined $21 billion in the event of a recession, exacerbating economic weakness, Moody’s Analytics found in a stress test of state finances. Reserves take on added importance for governments balancing obligatory pension and health-care costs with swings in tax collections, said Daniel White, a senior economist at the arm of Moody’s Corp.

 

“What the Great Recession has shown is that things have fundamentally changed in terms of the way that state fiscal conditions are determined,” White said from West Chester, Pennsylvania. “They need to be much more prepared for very volatile fiscal conditions than they had been in the past.”

 

...

 

States were unprepared for the last recession. In 2009, budget gaps totaled $117 billion, about twice the level of reserves, according to Pew, a research group. With more of a cushion, they would’ve cut fewer jobs, White said.

 

...

 

In the next recession, the federal government may not assist states as it did in 2009, with grants for Medicaid and education, White said.

*  *  *

Of course, at this rate there will never be another recession ever again...

 

- advertisements -

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:09 | 5981011 Thirst Mutilator
Thirst Mutilator's picture

Oh FFS...

 

NEVER forget... people... that francis_sawyer was your MORTAL ENENY!

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:10 | 5981023 johngaltfla
johngaltfla's picture

This from an administration that ACTUALLY HAD TO WARN it's FBI and DEA to not buy hookers. Just wow.

FBI and DEA Agents Actually have to be Instructed not to Consort with Hookers?!?!
Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:20 | 5981041 Aussiekiwi
Aussiekiwi's picture

What!!, hiring hookers is frowned upon, who would ever know, I thought hiring hookers was supporting GDP!

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:25 | 5981050 Pure Evil
Pure Evil's picture

I think Francis is coming out of the Mutilator closet.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:37 | 5981080 smlbizman
smlbizman's picture

shhhhh....i like having him around.....

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:48 | 5981109 Pure Evil
Pure Evil's picture

If you think the PTB are unaware then you're deluding yourself.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:51 | 5981116 smlbizman
smlbizman's picture

i dont think its the ptb as much as it is others he may rub the wrong way.......

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:57 | 5981125 Pure Evil
Pure Evil's picture

if he's rubbing the wrong way maybe he should use some K-Y jelly.

Wax on, wax off.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:05 | 5981137 wee-weed up
wee-weed up's picture

 

 

Fuck You, Obozo!

You want to tell the states how to be more financially responsible...

And yet you continue to strangle them with your unfunded mandates!

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:07 | 5981140 Pure Evil
Pure Evil's picture

Common core math should soon solve all economic woes.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:44 | 5981203 Kirk2NCC1701
Kirk2NCC1701's picture

Rx: get involved, stay involved. 

E.g. my 5th grader got this math problem for homework... A PCMonitor is 12 inches tall and 16" wide. What is its diagonal?

All other kids drew it on paper and measured the diagonal.  Mine used a^2 + b^2 = c^2 to get 20".

The teacher said to him: "But that's grade 8 math".  My kid responded: "Is that a problem? "

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:54 | 5981237 Pairadimes
Pairadimes's picture

The White House could have just said "bend over, muppets." and saved a lot of time.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 23:07 | 5981276 weburke
weburke's picture

PEW is no help at all as usual.

this is all deliberate. sane voices have been shut out of planning for a very long time. 

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 06:55 | 5981582 negative rates
negative rates's picture

The Feds want to mandate to the states, and then step back financially.

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 01:33 | 5981425 WeeWilly
WeeWilly's picture

Your wife must be a freaking BRAIN, Kirk! Way to marry up!!

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 05:43 | 5981556 zhandax
zhandax's picture

a^2 + b^2 = c^2 is eighth grade math now?  We are truly fucked.

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 01:21 | 5981410 acetinker
acetinker's picture

Good call PE!  Then again, Mutilator hasn't used the terms joobux or cheesepopes- yet.  I kinda miss francis_sawyer.  He had a way of his own.  I don't think he was banned, though.  He left voluntarily.

The one that puzzles me is Fonz, maybe Doc Engali knows what's up with that.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 23:20 | 5981296 daveO
daveO's picture

The money whores in DC don't like competition.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:23 | 5981044 wee-weed up
wee-weed up's picture

-

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:38 | 5981059 LetThemEatRand
LetThemEatRand's picture

.. - ...

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:11 | 5981141 wee-weed up
wee-weed up's picture

 

 

Oh, PU-LEEZE... LTER... Please get a life!

Is this the height of your Friday night enjoyment?

You're pitiful!

Maybe you need to go out and get yourself laid...

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:31 | 5981177 ThroxxOfVron
ThroxxOfVron's picture

You could always give him a hand instead of just yelling at him.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:55 | 5981242 wee-weed up
wee-weed up's picture

Yeah, I agree...

He really needs help!

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 01:25 | 5981414 acetinker
acetinker's picture

He hates Rand, but espouses many of the same principles she did.  Hurts my head.

Seems like you know why.

Care to elaborate?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 23:04 | 5981269 OldPhart
OldPhart's picture

,,|,,

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:54 | 5981122 Stormtrooper
Stormtrooper's picture

Wait!  I thought that hookers and blow were a critical part of GDP.  And who has a bigger budget to support GDP than FBI and DEA?

I'm very confused!!

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:11 | 5981147 lincolnsteffens
lincolnsteffens's picture

It helps GDP if drug cartels in foreign countries pay to supply hookers in the USA to FBI and DEA

agents. Not  much of a help to our GDP if done outside our borders.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:53 | 5981118 Manipuflation
Manipuflation's picture

~

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:40 | 5981196 chilli sauce
chilli sauce's picture

I'm making over $7k a month working part time. I kept hearing other people tell me how much money they can make online so I decided to look into it. Well, it was all true and has totally changed my life. This is what I do... www.globe-report.com

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 01:57 | 5981454 Dragon HAwk
Dragon HAwk's picture

I think ZH allows these guys to post just so we can toss in some witty comment and keep the thread interesting

  poor guys dick only works part time, imagine  how much he could make if it was functional

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 06:05 | 5981558 zhandax
zhandax's picture

Useless fuckin NSA;  if they were serving the public they would publish the basement this troll lives in so we could go by and piss on him.

As well as provide Hilary’s email, but that may dehydrate them since that is apparently the new hazard in public service.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:10 | 5981021 Stormtrooper
Stormtrooper's picture

No problem whatsoever.  State legislatures can call an Article V Constitutional Convention, amend the federal government out of existence and then up their tax rates to cover the services that they should be providing to their citizens instead of wasting fed tax dollars on illegal wars.  Time to reset and rethink the whole philosophy of the purpose of government.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:12 | 5981148 NoDecaf
NoDecaf's picture

Your plan assumes that state govts aren't compromised also. A better plan would be to scrap everything down to the county level and restart from there. Every county should have revolutionary councils, commitees and militias. The only existing institution worth saving is the Sheriffs office. Replace those who can't or won't uphold individual liberty.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 23:29 | 5981304 Lone_Star
Lone_Star's picture

That could be a nice idea. The only problem is here in Travis County, TX (Austin) the local officials are very pro big government. They have also been on a debt binge and spending spree the whole time the state was trying to stay lean.

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 03:26 | 5981509 N3mo
N3mo's picture

The "State Governments" are Federal Franchises. If you think for a moment they are somehow "different..." well, it must be nice to believe in Unicorns and their multi-hued bite-sized droppings.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 23:24 | 5981302 daveO
daveO's picture

Yea, there have been recent articles about how many states needed for the convention and ALSO about state secession movements in MSM outlets. As we get closer to a convention, watch, as the Fedgov starts promoting state secession movements to dilute and prevent a convention.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:16 | 5981035 coast
coast's picture

Why would anyone post what the white house says?  There are so many articles on ZH that are lies, I think they should change their website to: lieshedge.com.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:31 | 5981060 Pure Evil
Pure Evil's picture

Which one's?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:38 | 5981084 NidStyles
NidStyles's picture

Hey, you know the way out of here.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:27 | 5981055 f16hoser
f16hoser's picture

Fuck the White House. We no longer have a Viable Working Government in America.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:49 | 5981112 One Eyed Jack
One Eyed Jack's picture

Fuck viable they aren't even legitimate.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:37 | 5981078 Omega_Man
Omega_Man's picture

if u blow up the map, you can see on the bottom who made this study.... no surprise 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:44 | 5981209 A Lunatic
A Lunatic's picture

You had me at blow up......

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:38 | 5981085 kchrisc
kchrisc's picture

The first state that Quits paying the banksters will be the first state the DC US invades since their treason in the 1860s.

My money is on it being California, as the DC US and their Zionist masters will want to nationalize certain properties and industries to keep them out of the hands of the Chinese.

The banksters need to repay us.

 

"You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave."

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:36 | 5981185 ThroxxOfVron
ThroxxOfVron's picture

"My money is on it being California, as the DC US and their Zionist masters will want to nationalize certain properties and industries to keep them out of the hands of the Chinese. "

 

Texas isn't going anywhere.  The oil.  The gulf.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:40 | 5981090 Shitgum Suicide
Shitgum Suicide's picture

What the Great Recession has shown is that things have fundamentally changed,” The White House warned this week.

Well I guess that's what you get when you proclaim that you are going to fundamentall transform the unted states of America.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KrefKCaV8m4

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:42 | 5981095 Otto Zitte
Otto Zitte's picture

Come out, come out wherever you are, preppers! I got somethin ta show ya!

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:44 | 5981101 One Eyed Jack
One Eyed Jack's picture

If only I could be subject to the whims of a parasitic self aggrandizing bunch of assholes that claim ownership over a large portion of my productivity, things would be so much better.

There's truly nothing I enjoy more than being lectured by a clueless narcissistic ball gargler that knows shit about finance or entrepreneurialism to wag his finger and instruct me as to what I should do.

Hey Barry you should go fuck yourself you coke head cock sucker

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:45 | 5981102 Shitgum Suicide
Shitgum Suicide's picture

Why is this post not called Friday Humor?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:54 | 5981120 Pure Evil
Pure Evil's picture

if it wasn't so depressing it might actully be funny.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:54 | 5981121 Shitgum Suicide
Shitgum Suicide's picture

Here's your president America!

President Choomster in Jamaica man.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oIL4asUyciI

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:10 | 5981146 Berspankme
Berspankme's picture

Barack the magic negro

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:34 | 5981186 Shitgum Suicide
Shitgum Suicide's picture

That song never gets old.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N08ZIsSPKuo

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:30 | 5981160 stant
stant's picture

Gona finish what jubal early had the last shot at.just look at the Capital building looks like about 1860 . Looks like it does now. Sort a like the Death Star . And yes it's operational. It's our fault we have to fix it. Or everyone loses.dont know how this plays out. Just front run it as best you can for the loved ones. The propaganda on us tv is horrible .

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:26 | 5981168 Goldilocks
Goldilocks's picture

The Last Ride Ever on Jaws at Universal Studios Orlando For TPR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uALqMMC8mg (6:16)

Meanwhile...

China buying up American land, resources, and Communities: Detroit to be the first major city..?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSCr4OpyCoQ (8:30)

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:44 | 5981204 ThroxxOfVron
ThroxxOfVron's picture

Wait.

Did the words 'cut spending' actually get uttered at the fucking WH ?

Something very different is going on here.  

To 'cut spending' is not ideologically compatible with the practice of modern American statism.  

-Most certain not as practiced by Democrats.

Oh, wait; the majority in Congress are now Republicans.  

Hillary has to have something to run against aside from her failed term carpetbagging in NY and State Debt debacles..

...& this is just talk; -no one has proposed pulling out the carving knife even though the debt ceiling is once again looming.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 23:29 | 5981305 daveO
daveO's picture

Boner is still in the house. $4 Trillion in 4 years.

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=HN.608004946859393887&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=...

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:46 | 5981219 A Lunatic
A Lunatic's picture

What the great recession has show us is that the American public is a bunch of pussies. Let the beatings continue......

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:48 | 5981222 dexter_morgan
dexter_morgan's picture

Illinois revenue is up 22.5% and they are still FUCKING BROKE! Why is it so hard to see that revenue is NOT THE FUCKING problem spending is. Wisconsin's gubmit revenue is down and they are thriving.

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:57 | 5981249 Manipuflation
Manipuflation's picture

"Now’s the time to sock away cash," warns Moody's Daniel White."

Now?  Why now?  And what to does he mean by "cash" exactly?  Like dollars?  What kind of dollars?  Paper ones or silver ones?  The man does not specify exactly what we are to do.  Moodys of all douchebag operations issues that statement?  Really?  

No thanks Moody.  I'm going to stick my little plan of buying certian coins and such that I have been doing a quite a while and recently I found a guy who is listed as a pawn shop but I think he more into coins as had visit his establish not long ago.  It is a very small hole-in-wall type place as most coins shops are.  I had no idea he had anything because your Pawn Merica's are nothing but junk that should have tossed into the refuse pile.  I see potential here in a big way because this another of the old timers who has some nice coins.  I asked the gentleman if he anything and replied, "What are you looking for?".  When you get that response, it is almost always good.  I named a couple of date and had one of the rarest dates that you imagine.  The coin was poor and he knew that but it is a key date.  I would grade that coin in the unofficial grade of "It is an example of one".  Price bargaining time and bundling time.  No one walks into a place and for that particular coin who is some schumck of the street and that's when we got into the good stuff.  I didn't even get to see it all yet because it is not under the counter or on display.  I bought a couple of other coins that you won't find laying in any parking lot including a Type One gold U.S dollar that is cool.  I paid for that one, trust me and it was the 1853 P(no mint mark) which was the most common of that very short run series.  The condition is AU+.  The coin is 25.8 grains in weight with a .900 fineness which was authorized by the Act of March 3, 1849.  The moral of the story there is that not only did the U.S. have a currency based on gold and silver but it minted a GOLD DOLLAR.  I HAD to have to have that coin.  They are out there for sale. 

If you fellow ZHer's ever see a one dollar gold coin, check it out closely.  You might need one and they are out there.  Then you can ask the inevitable asshole you always end up arguing with about monetary policy what that coins means.  It's an automatic win of any economic argument regarding U.S. fiscal evidence.  I have to back and see what else this guy has that I probably need.

So how does my little socking away "cash" plan sound good to you Mr. Moody?  Is that what you had in mind or were you talking about toxic derivitives that are still on "the other" set of books and/or debt-based cotton fiber paper?              

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 08:52 | 5981675 FredFlintstone
FredFlintstone's picture

Is there money to be made in numismatics? Wouldn't the melt value be what you would look at in a SHTF scenario? Isn't coin collecting on par with stamps or baseball cards?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 23:07 | 5981273 OldPhart
OldPhart's picture

"the national economy, which is in its sixth year of expansion."

That line right there says the whole thing is propaganda.

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 02:05 | 5981457 cheech_wizard
cheech_wizard's picture

The Federal Government has for the past couple of quarters been enjoying record tax revenues, all the while spending even more than they take in...and the White House has the unmitigated gall to lecture the states? All states need to be seriously considering secession. Because when the Federal Reserve House of fiat comes tumbling down, it is going to get very ugly.

Time to buy another thousand rounds...

 

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 08:20 | 5981653 yellowsub
yellowsub's picture

"in the event of a recession"

...phew, scared me because we're heading toward a depression.

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 08:32 | 5981662 d edwards
d edwards's picture

if the size of govt at all levels was cut by say, 50 per cent they wouldn't  so many tax revenues would they?

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 08:47 | 5981671 Jameson18
Jameson18's picture

I'm going to bet that these numbers are way worse then you are stating due to the fact that you used these organizations for the information of the story.

Pew: Nope

Rockefeller: Nope

Bloomberg: Nope

US Census Bureau: Are you fucking kidding me.

Try again please.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!