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Paul Craig Roberts: "Will Washington Kill Us All?"

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Via Paul Craig Roberts,

Did you know that Washington keeps 450 nuclear ICBMs on “hair-trigger alert”? Washington thinks that this makes us “safe.” The reasoning, if it can be called reason, is that by being able to launch in a few minutes, no one will try to attack the US with nuclear weapons. US missiles are able to get on their way before the enemy’s missiles can reach the US to destroy ours.

If this makes you feel safe, you need to read Eric Schlosser’s book, Command and Control.

The trouble with hair-triggers is that they make mistaken, accidental, and unauthorized launch more likely. Schlosser provides a history of almost launches that would have brought armageddon to the world.

In Catalyst, a publication of the Union of Concerned Scientists, Elliott Negin tells the story of Soviet Lt. Col. Stanislav Petrov. Just after midnight in 1983 the Soviet Union’s early warning satellite system set off the alarm that 5 US ICBMs were headed for the Soviet Union.

Col. Petrov was supposed to inform the Soviet leader, who would have 8 to 10 minutes to decide whether to launch in retaliation. Who knows what he would have decided. Instead Col. Petrov used his judgment. There was no reason for the US to be attacking the Soviet Union. Moreover, Petrov reasoned that an American attack would involve hundreds of ICBMs, possibly thousands. He checked whether Soviet ground-based radar had detected incoming ICBMs, and it had not. Petrov decided it was a false alarm, and sat on it.

It turned out that the early warning system had mistaken a pattern of sunlight reflection on clouds as missiles. This was a close call, but Negin reports that “a failed computer chip, and an improperly installed circuit card are some of the culprits” that could initiate nuclear war. In other words, the sources of false alarms are numerous.

Fast forward to today. Imagine an American officer monitoring the US early warning system. This officer has been listening to 15 years of war propaganda accompanied by US invasions and bombings of 8 countries. Terrorist warnings and security alerts abound, as do calls from American and Israeli politicians for nuking Iran. The media has convinced him that Russia has invaded Ukraine and is on the verge of invading the Baltics and Poland. American troops and tanks have been rushed to the Russian border. There is talk of arming Ukraine. Putin is dangerous and is threatening nuclear war, running his strategic bombers close to our borders and holding nuclear drills. The American officer has just heard a Fox News general again call for “killing Russians.” The Republicans have convinced him that Obama is selling out America to Iran, with Senator Tom Cotton warning of nuclear war as a consequence. We will all be killed because there is a Muslim in the White House.

Why isn’t anyone standing up for America, the patriotic American officer wonders, just as the alarm goes off: Incoming ICBMs. Are they Russian or Iranian? Was Israel right after all? A hidden Iranian nuclear weapons program? Or has Putin decided that the US is in the way of his reconstruction of the Soviet Empire, which the American media affirms is Putin’s goal? There is no room for judgment in the American officer’s mind. It has been set on hair-trigger by the incessant propaganda that Americans call news. He passes on the warning.

Obama’s Russophobic neocon National Security Advisor is screaming: “You can’t let Putin get away with this!” “It might be a false alarm,” replies the nervous and agitated president. “You liberal pussy! Don’t you know that Putin is dangerous!? Push the button!”

And there goes the world.

Considering the extreme Russophobia being created among Americans by the Ministry of Propaganda, the demonization of Vladimir Putin–the “new Hitler,” Vlad the Impaler– the propagandistic creation of “the Russian threat,” the crazed neocon desire for US world hegemony, the hatred of Russia and China as rising rivals capable of exercising independent power, the loss of American Uni-power status and unconstrained unilateral action. In the midst of these emotions and minds swayed not by facts but by propaganda, hubris, and ideology, there is a great chance that Washington’s response to a false alarm will bring the end of life on earth.

How much confidence do you have in Washington? How many times has Washington–especially the crazed neocons–been wrong?

Remember the 3-week “cakewalk” Iraq war that would cost $70 billion and be paid out of Iraqi oil revenues? Now the cost is $3,000 billion and rising, and after 12 years the radical Islamic State controls half of the country. To pay for the wars the Republicans want to “privatize,” that is, take away, Social Security and Medicare.

Remember “Mission Accomplished” in Afghanistan? Twelve years later the Taliban again control the country and Washington, after murdering women, children, funerals, weddings, village elders, and kids’ soccer games, has been driven out by a few thousand lightly armed Taliban.

The frustrations of these defeats have mounted in Washington and in the military. The myth is that we lost because we didn’t use our full force. We were intimidated by world opinion or by those damn student protesters, or blocked from victory by some gutless president, a liberal pussy who wouldn’t use all of our power. For the right-wing, rage is a way of life.

The neocons believe fervently that History has chosen America to rule the world, and here we are defeated by Vietnamese guerrillas, by Afghan tribesmen, by Islamist fundamentalists, and now Putin has sent his missiles to finish the job.

Whoever the White House fool is, he will push the button.

The situation is deteriorating, not improving. The Russians, hoping for some sign of intelligence in Europe, contradict Washington’s anti-Russian lies. Washington calls truthful contradiction of its own propaganda to be Russian propaganda. Washington has ordered the Broadcasting Board of Governors, a US government agency, headed by Andrew Lack, a former chairman of NBC news, to counteract an alleged, but non-existent, “Kremlin Troll Army” that is outshouting the Western prostitutes and “perpetuating a pro-Russian dialogue” on the Internet. In case you don’t remember, Lack is the idiot who declared RT to be a “terrorist organization.” In other words, in Lack’s opinion, one that he can enforce, a truth-teller is a terrorist.

Lack epitomizes well Washington’s view of truthful reporting: If it doesn’t serve Washington’s propaganda, it is not true. It is terrorism.

Lack hopes to control RT with intimidation: In effect, he has told RT to shut up and say what we want or we will close you down as a terrorist organization. We might even arrest your American employees as aiders and abettors of terrorism.

To counteract a Revanchist Russia and its Internet Troll Army, the Obama regime is handing $15,400,000 to the insane Lack to use to discredit every truthful statement that emerges from the English language versions of Russian media. This amount, of course, will rise dramatically. Soon it will be in the billions of dollars, while Americans are evicted from their homes and sent to prison for their debts.

In his budget request, Lack, who seems to lack every aspect of humanity, including intelligence, integrity, and morality, justified his request, which will be granted, for the hard-earned money of Americans, whose standard of living is falling, with the wild assertion that Russia “threatens Russia’s neighbors and, by extension, the United States and its Western allies.”

Lack promises to do even more: “The US international media is now set forth to refute Russian propaganda and influence the minds of Russians and Russian-speakers in the former Soviet Union, Europe and around the world.” Lack is going to propagandize against Russia inside Russia.

Of course, the CIA organizations–the National Endowment for Democracy and Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty–will be enriched by this anti-Russian propaganda campaign and will support it wholeheartedly.

Therefore, the Union of Concerned Scientists’ call for cooperation with Russia to take ICBMs off hair-trigger status is unlikely to occur. How can nuclear tensions be reduced when Washington is building tensions as fast as it possibly can? Washington’s Ministry of Propaganda has reconstructed Putin as Osama bin Laden, as Saddam Hussein, demonized figures, bogymen who evoke fear from the brainwashed American sheeple. Russia is transformed into al Qaeda lusting for another attack on the World Trade Center and for the Red Army (many Americans think Russia is still communist) to roll across Europe.

Gorbachev was a trick. He deceived the old movie actor. The deceived Americans are sitting ducks, and here come the ICBMs. The crazed views of the American politicians, military, and people are unable to comprehend truth or to recognize reality.

The propagandistic American “media” and the crazed neoconservatives have set humanity on the path to destruction.

The Union of Concerned Scientists, of which I am a member, need to come to their senses. It is impossible to work out a reduction in nuclear threat as long as one side is going all out to demonize the other. The demonization of Russia and its leader by the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, Fox News, and the rest of the American Propaganda Ministry, by almost the entirety of the House and Senate, and by the White House makes reducing the threat of nuclear war impossible.

The American people and the entire world need to understand that the threat to life on earth resides in Washington and that until Washington is fundamentally and totally changed, this threat will remain as the worse threat to life on earth. Global Warming can disappear instantly in Nuclear Winter.

 

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Thu, 04/16/2015 - 17:47 | 6000460 nailgunnin4you
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Hopefully only americunts

<------ butthurts

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 17:49 | 6000474 TeamDepends
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Dead Man Walking

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 17:51 | 6000482 Deathrips
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In war, truth is the first casualty.

 

RIPS

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 17:53 | 6000488 theXman
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Sad to see that a former assistant of Reagan has become a mouth piece of Kremlin. 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 17:56 | 6000499 kaiserhoff
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Sad to see ZH Putin Fluffing again for a few pennies from the Mom's basement crowd.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:02 | 6000517 gmrpeabody
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"The propagandistic American “media” and the crazed neoconservatives have set humanity on the path to destruction."

Neo cons...., silly me. Here I was thinking that the Democrats were in control of the White House and the MSM.

Or is this author just playing red against blue...?

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:03 | 6000530 MonetaryApostate
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Lol, silly me, I was thinking they all suck the bankers cocks...

 

Or are they STILL too big to jail?

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:10 | 6000539 Latina Lover
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Paul Craig Roberts is telling anyone with ears to hear that we are headed towards nuclear war pushed by the NeoCons, by messianic freaks who believe that USSA manifest destiny trumps all national and international rights and agreements. 

They are insane, just like Hitler, and will eventually experience the same result.

 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:12 | 6000556 gmrpeabody
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Again..., it's not neocons as much as neolibs. Both of you seem to be intentionally clouding the issue.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:13 | 6000564 Latina Lover
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Agreed. NeoLibs are Neocons who watch Oprah, and would color drones Pink to make them more politically correct.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:29 | 6000624 TeamDepends
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Potato/potahto. Bush put the ball on the tee. Barry slices into the lake.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:36 | 6000644 Latina Lover
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..And Reggie gargles both of their ball sacks.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:46 | 6000681 TeamDepends
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If Reggie = US Tax Slave, then yes. Dead Man Walking

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:26 | 6000846 Manthong
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But if we screw up on the nuclear hair trigger, Obama can always take out New York.


Fail Safe (1964 film) 

That’s what sociopaths do.

 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:31 | 6000882 Anusocracy
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Uh-oh.

Looks like some of Andrew's lackeys are here.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 23:06 | 6001660 NidStyles
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What is it with these Zionist faiths always wanting to kill everyone???

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 01:11 | 6001897 philipat
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FYI, the Administration may be Democrat but the (Permanent) bueaucracy and Military are stacked with neocons who are aided and abetted by the MIC, The Bankers and the Lobbyists. Beedlove is the perfect example. Sorry to disillusion you of you believed that the Administration is actually in control of important policy. Ignore PCR at your peril.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 02:33 | 6002000 MEAN BUSINESS
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Behold the denial of the ZH commentariat that PCR just publicly proclaimed he is a member of the Union Of Concerned Scientists which has a CLEAR statement regarding AGW.

let the twisting continue...

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 02:40 | 6002007 MEAN BUSINESS
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Like Cheech_Wizard, you're suddenly deathly quiet on AGW. Yet shoot your mouth off you must. LULZ

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 02:59 | 6002023 Debugas
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oh Fail Safe.

that is a very good film, i enjoyed watching

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:48 | 6000689 Macchendra
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DEFINITION of 'Neoliberalism'

An approach to economics and social studies in which control of economic factors is shifted from the public sector to the private sector. Drawing upon principles of neoclassical economics, neoliberalism suggests that governments reduce deficit spending, limit subsidies, reform tax law to broaden the tax base, remove fixed exchange rates, open up markets to trade by limiting protectionism, privatize state-run businesses, allow private property and back deregulation.

-Investopedia

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:55 | 6000720 Whoa Dammit
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We are much more likely to die from ICBPs (Intercontinental Ballistic Printers).

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 02:18 | 6001988 Weaponized Innocense
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Hillary throwing out printers now?

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 03:00 | 6002026 Debugas
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i can shorten it - neoliberal view is a view where global corporations interests are above any nation's interests

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:25 | 6001093 Reaper
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The neo-intelligentia imagine their own choosiness.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:22 | 6000585 MonetaryApostate
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Most Libs are Dems, so... "What difference does it make?"

It's not like they don't ALL take orders from TPTB...

(Or should I say dance for donations to the conintuing paid for seat on easy street?)

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:27 | 6000861 LetThemEatRand
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I considered putting time into a response to this about how Red and Blue are the same, but I'd rather just say fuck you for being part of the machine and perpetuating our misery.  Thank you.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 06:07 | 6005852 nmewn
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Well STFU about "rebuilding Americas roads & bridges" and how the FCC regulating the entire internet (well, in this country anyways) is the best thing since sliced bread then. It comes off as hillariously biased & stupid as MEAN BUSINESS trying to divert every fucking thread toward AGW and how printing vast sums of fiat to fatten the pockets of solar panel & windmill CEO's is humanity's only "Hope".

Do something nice for the procreation of the human species for a "Change".

Go into the ghey wedding cake biz ;-)

 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 21:00 | 6001250 turnoffthewater
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I see crazy dead people

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 22:25 | 6001531 FMOTL
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Latina I upvoted you for the PCR comment but enough already with the "insane like Hitler" comment I know we have all been relentlessly propagandised to believe "Hitler was the most evil man that ever lived" bullshit , but the reality is that he was a patriot who appealed many times to Churchill for peace, it was Churchill who was personally in debted to bankers who pushed for war and who was far more psychopathically "insane" than Adolph and a total drunk , coward and pedo to boot !

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:07 | 6000537 Latina Lover
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The good news is that the Neocons will fail again.

 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:13 | 6000565 gmrpeabody
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Are you picking up this Neocon thing from some talking points?

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:25 | 6000606 nailgunnin4you
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You believe neocons are a figment of some propagandist's imagination?

 

The only thing more dense than the worldview of some flaccid old butthurt zh readers is their pm holdings.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:38 | 6000649 gmrpeabody
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Absolutely not..., but it's not neocons that are running this dog and pony show in Washington right now. Or who have caused this KF in Europe.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:45 | 6000677 ronron
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oh i see. so nuland is not in the obama nut house?

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:02 | 6000750 gmrpeabody
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Yes she is..., that was my point.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:11 | 6000785 MEAN BUSINESS
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Oh well, at least ronron and peabody can agree that AGW is a hoax scam etc, even if they can't agree on labels. Very entertaining. Do continue.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:20 | 6000832 nailgunnin4you
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but it's not neocons that are running this dog and pony show in Washington right now.

 

Haha, it isn't? Wow, where you getting your news from kiddo?

 

Some light reading for you, for which you are most welcome:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kagan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfowitz_Doctrine

 

You REALLY need to read the wolfowitz doctrine if you don't believe america's foreign policy is set almost completely by neocons. Of course it would be libelous of me not to mention that Kagan identifies himself as a 'liberal interventionist', not a neocon. So, in an extremely roundabout way, ignorant flops like yourself glued to foxnews 20 hours a day can be considered correct when saying it's the goddamn liberals ruining everything.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 03:15 | 6002040 MEAN BUSINESS
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LMFAO, but to be fair, that CL 2NE1 vid was a contende'!

p,s, usin' your "butthurt" occasionally. Right up there ("Please God", I love double entendre!), but not "put a cunt over your head and fuck some sense into you" grade ; )

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 03:38 | 6002067 nailgunnin4you
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The reagan/gop/inaccuratenostalgia loving group of zh commenters (nodebt, oldwood et al) are known as 'the butthurts', so be careful not to cause confusion when using it.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 04:29 | 6002104 MEAN BUSINESS
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Thanks for the readme Will be try2B  judicious ; )

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:38 | 6000616 Latina Lover
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Hey GMRpeabrain, Victoria Nudelman, key player in the USSA coup of the Ukraine, is married to Robert Kagan, an arch neo con. 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:40 | 6000655 gmrpeabody
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Oh.., I see, so she can't be held responsible. It was her husband that made her do it.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:47 | 6000686 Latina Lover
Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:03 | 6000755 gmrpeabody
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More likely it was a joint...

speaking of which, I need a drink.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:52 | 6000961 nailgunnin4you
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You mean you weren't profusely drunk when you sought to argue that neocons are not running ussa's foreign affairs? You should try a joint sometime, it will help you deal with a world somewhat more complex than goodies v baddies.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 23:10 | 6001672 gmrpeabody
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Pathetic...

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:14 | 6000570 Monetas
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The banksters should repay us ! What's with all the mindless socialist sloganeering ? 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:10 | 6000782 HenryHall
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Sad but true. There are people in the American military-industrial complex who will not feel their life mission is fulfilled until the entire Northern hemisphere is lain a radioactive wasteland. Even more sadly they really will have their way with this, it is only a matter of time.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:08 | 6000549 Bay of Pigs
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No he isn't. The Neocon MENA foreign policy was never changed under the Obama Administration. In fact, it got worse.

So what are you talking about?

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:42 | 6000667 Vullsain
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"Neo cons...., silly me. Here I was thinking that the Democrats were in control of the White House and the MSM."

Playing alzheimer's like stupid typically does not work here on ZH. Go back to some FOX news ditto-head site


Fri, 04/17/2015 - 08:14 | 6002432 Refuse-Resist
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Somebody is watching TV. Somebody here, ahem Vullsain, still believes that the Dems and Reps are somehow different and don't support exactly the same policies that have ruined this country.

And it thinks we're crazy?

WTF?

 

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 00:19 | 6001806 bkboy
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Neo cons are not limited to membership in the Republican Party.  For example, one of the co-founders, Robert Kagen, continues to be involved in policy implemented by the Obama administration: Kagan also serves on the State Department's Foreign Affairs Policy Board under Secretaries of State Hillary Clinton[16] and John Kerry.[17] He is also a member of the board of directors for The Foreign Policy Initiative (FPI).[18]

Kagen's wife is Victoria "Fuck the EU" Nuland.  Do you need any more evidence that "neocon" describes the foreign policy objective of both "parties" and that both "parties" are merely competing financing platforms for the banking, military and corporate cabal that profit from expanding our Empire of Debt?

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:08 | 6000524 Ham-bone
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My two cents in my latest post...probably not a big shocker but still I show the mechanics of the Fed's interventions rather than just my opinion.

The Federal Reserve Is a Parasite Only Offering Crony-Capitalist "Socialism"

http://econimica.blogspot.com/2015/04/the-federal-reserve-is-parasite-only.html

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:08 | 6000528 Latina Lover
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Once again we are infested by the Ukie/CIA troll army, spewing the usual inanities.   I feel  good, however, when I read their BS, because you can detect the desperation in trying to force their message.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:11 | 6000557 Monetas
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Latin America is Spain's "Ukraine" !

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:15 | 6000572 gmrpeabody
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Latin Lover is America's Tokio Rose...

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:17 | 6000582 Latina Lover
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WTF does that mean?  Do you mean that because Latin America Kicked out the Spanish Empire, somehow the Ukies will kick out the "Russian Empire"?   No wonder you Ukies are losing.  

Besides, what makes you think Russia want your crappy country, with a GDP per capita below that of Somalia?

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:27 | 6000611 gmrpeabody
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That means, for the most part, you are continually spewing political nonsense.

Like some kind of troll..., or something.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:37 | 6000647 Bay of Pigs
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PCR is spot on in regard to American foreign policy. Some of you guys have shit for brains playing the left/right, Red/Blue, Rep/Dem BS.

There is no difference between the Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush and Obama policies in the Middle East, or elsewhere for that matter. That policy was crafted and later implemented decades ago by the Neocons like Perle, Wolfowitz, Cheney and Rumsfeld. It is called "regime change", but is really all about Zionism and the NWO and wanting the whole world under their control (via Central Banking).

Does that mean I love Putin and Russia? Fuck no, but you're apparently too stupid to figure that out.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:39 | 6000652 Latina Lover
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+1000

Well said, and to the point.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:55 | 6000722 chunga
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I don't know if it's the case everywhere, but many governments are utterly despised by large chunks of their own citizens. The NWO people must love this, and since the MSM is in lock-step bashing the Russians, it's easy to make inferences as to who the NWO people are.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 22:15 | 6001501 nailgunnin4you
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I agree with all you say but republicans are the good guys and democrats are the baddies, nodebt told me so.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 03:24 | 6002053 MEAN BUSINESS
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Hey mr 27 upvotes, tell us how PCR is spot on 'bout stuff like AGW. I know you can. AGW is foreign policy jerk.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:27 | 6000623 tarabel
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He was implying that you are a traitor to your country.

But of course those who know you well realize that is not true.

 

 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:25 | 6000608 tarabel
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More like Lord Haw-Haw.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:30 | 6000627 Latina Lover
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We will see who laughs last, after the USSA puppet masters are finally booted out of Kiev. Or do you think that the Ukrainians want to be the poorest in europe, a bombed out, economically destroyed borderland with no future? If you really knew economics, you would realise that other than selling GMO wheat to Europe, the Ukraine as is has nothing to offer the EU, or anyone else.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:18 | 6000579 Latina Lover
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Here it comes, getting trolled once again by the  ukie sock puppet army. Don't you have a real battle to fight in Novorossiya, you fucking coward??

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:21 | 6000591 tarabel
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Speaking of government trolls, they are easy to spot since they only work threads that their masters tell them to work.

Why is it that you never show up on ZH except to yap about "Ukie trolls". Look through the list of today's various topics and see what interests you. Only one thing-- advancing Grandmother Putin's agenda.

 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:35 | 6000638 Latina Lover
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http://www.zerohedge.com/search/user_comments

Try inputting my username and do a search.  As for Grandmother Putin (?), are you implying he is an elderly cross dresser?  If so, so what?  Isn't the USSA led by a gay man married to a transsexual?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et38_Ufv-Jw

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:12 | 6001043 drendebe10
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..... the thing married to the wookie ain't called the fudgepacker for no reason....

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:42 | 6000666 Bendromeda Strain
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Sad to see ZH Putin Fluffing again

Yet you aren't embarrassed to fluff the fat pig Poroshenko? The Fudge Oligarch...

Maybe you got a thing for goose stepping, hmmm?

 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:03 | 6000754 rickv404
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Roberts is a liberal, who obviously tricks some into thinking he's a libertarian.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:08 | 6000763 LetThemEatRand
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"Sad to see that a former assistant of Reagan has become a mouth piece of Kremlin."

Sad to see that America has become so fucked up (you included, apparently), that a former assistant of Reagan who loves this country, comes off to you as a mouth piece of the Kremlin because he speaks the truth.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:51 | 6000959 Debt-Is-Not-Money
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+1,000

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:27 | 6000614 ebworthen
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Neoconservatives AND warmongering liberal progressives.

It's not like Obama and his administration have withdrawn the war machine from across the globe and fomented peace anywhere.  And Hillary will be as much or more likely to continue the stupidity in the Ukraine and whipping up former Eastern Bloc countries into Russo-phobia - with the ironic participation of Germany, Italy, and Japan.

Washington is controlled by the Big Banks, Wall Street, the Corporatocracy, and the Military Industrial Complex.  Both parties cow-tow to the hegemony of big money and fat contracts.

There must be a crisis and an enemy somewhere to send our kids off to fight and be maimed or die to feed the war pigs.

The real enemy is right here at home, plotting and scheming in the board rooms and halls of power.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:31 | 6000626 gmrpeabody
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Thank you..., spot on. I am becoming very suspect of those that insist they are all neocons, like a smoke screen or something.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 17:55 | 6000493 Ignatius
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His name was Lt. Col. Stanislav Petrov.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:49 | 6000695 bthunder
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No, his name was Robert Paulson

 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:23 | 6000593 junction
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While I like Paul Craig Roberts' world viewpoint, let's not forget that he held high government office in the corrupt, NWO-driven Reagan administration.  The administration that gave us aspartame in food (and the epidemic of brain cancers since) and taxes on Social Security.  And also the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP), targeting Social Security recipients who had less than 30 years of covered employment who also received a government pension.  Of course, the WEP had no effect on those high paid K Street lobbyists who shuttled back and forth from private industry to government jobs.  Jamming the middle class was Alan Greenspan's job and Reagan rewarded him by putting him in charge of the Federal Reserve.  Strange that his wife, NBC bitch reporter Andrea Mitchell, does not brag about how her hubby jammed the peasants by not only taxing their Social Security benefits but, where possible, cutting the benefits and describing the alleged SS overpayments of a few hundred dollars a month as "windfalls."  

From Reuters today:

Some U.S. workers who have paid into the Social Security system are in for a rude awakening when the checks start coming: Their benefits could be chopped by up to $413 per month without warning.

That is the maximum potential cut for 2015 stemming from the Windfall Elimination Provision, a little-understood rule that was signed into law in 1983 to prevent double-dipping from Social Security and public-sector pensions. A sister rule called the Government Pension Offset can result in even sharper cuts to spousal and survivor benefits.

WEP affected about 1.5 million Social Security beneficiaries in 2012, and another 568,000 were hit by the GPO, according to the U.S. Social Security Administration (SSA). Most of those affected are teachers and employees of state and local government.

These two safeguards often come as big news to retirees because the SSA gives them no advance warning, and until 2005, no law required that affected employees be informed by their employers. Even now, the law only requires employers to inform new workers of the possible impact on Social Security benefits earned in other jobs.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 02:41 | 6002009 Weaponized Innocense
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lost me all over the place but it's funny like she thinks I'm expecting social security...lol

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 02:43 | 6002012 Weaponized Innocense
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Wasn't there something about how Chernobyl isn't suspect in cancer in Russia .....

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 17:49 | 6000475 BoredRoom
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You had me right up to "global warming"

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 17:57 | 6000502 Ignatius
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I'd have more confidence in their "findings" if the community of scientists would get the Newtonian physics right on 9/11.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 00:48 | 6001859 MEAN BUSINESS
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Seems logical. To six butthurt hedgetards.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 16:44 | 6004303 nailgunnin4you
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Solid use of butthurt even if I agree with other dude.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 17:59 | 6000510 Payne
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Global Warming might be real.  Man made Global Warming is a Myth.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:19 | 6000824 Tegrat
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It was global ice age might be real in the 70s. It was global warming might be real from 80's 90s. Since then it's been climate change might be real.

Real fucking dumbasses believe leftist drool. And there's a lot of them who dont know history and are fighting for $15 min wage.

 

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 00:57 | 6001873 MEAN BUSINESS
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So The Union Of Concerned Scientists, to which PCR publicly says in this article he is a member, are "real fucking dumbasses.... who don't know history and are fighting for $15 min wage."?

mmmk. butthurt much?

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 17:50 | 6000479 Deathrips
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To maintain control of the plebes for the ZIOfuckers?

To the death?

They accept.

To think otherwise would be inconceivable.

RIPS

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 17:51 | 6000481 legend247
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I'm making over $7k a month working part time. I kept hearing other people tell me how much money they can make online so I decided to look into it. Well, it was all true and has totally changed my life. This is what I do... www.globe-report.com

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 17:56 | 6000498 cheech_wizard
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So your last alias got wiped from the roles? Don't worry, this one will be gone soon as well.

legend247
Member for
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Fri, 04/17/2015 - 00:41 | 6001846 MEAN BUSINESS
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A deadly serious article from a serious Dude, and this is your comment ? I thought you were mr military expert? Oh, i see, you're conflicted because PCR publicly stated he's a member of the UCS and it's position on AGW makes your head explode, but you couldn't cope not being seen with the rest of the "butthurts" so you chimed in here rather than STFU. Intellectual dishonesty in action.

-1

 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:47 | 6000685 RiderOnTheStorm
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Legend247 . . .

Some how, some way we are going to hunt you down and find you. Then, we are going to slice off your dangling participles, rip out your vowels and stuff them all up you consenants. Don't say your haven't been warned!!!!

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 02:53 | 6002020 Weaponized Innocense
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RT spam blather... YAWN

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:39 | 6000651 WhackoWarner
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Hillary Clinton antichrist nuclear warhead

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 17:49 | 6000471 WTFRLY
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Washington has the NWO virus.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:00 | 6000512 MonetaryApostate
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Well they are definitely suffering from dirty knees, that's for sure...

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:18 | 6001064 Debt-Is-Not-Money
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aka "neocon virus".

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 17:49 | 6000473 q99x2
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Fuck ya they are planning to kill us. We are the enemy in WWIII the war of the banksters.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 17:50 | 6000476 kchrisc
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"Paul Craig Roberts: "Will Washington Kill Us All?"

My lawyers at AK, Ar, and Glock say they will try.

The banksters need to repay us.

 

I stand with Udo Walendy.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 17:57 | 6000500 gafgroocK
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Oh Yeah? ...Well, I am 'standing behind' Josephine Witt in her thong..

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:47 | 6000688 nailgunnin4you
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More lame bellicosity from kchrisc. I asked you the last time you alluded to your inert gun collection what you are waiting for. Too tough a question for you perhaps as I never got a reply. If you won't take on the system because you know you will get eaten up by LE or the legal system, then why make empty threats?

 

Methinks you are lying to yourself to shield your ego from the reality i.e. "I'm not a little bitch peon of my gov, I'm gonna fight them... tomorrow". For this reason I call out all terrytoughcunt bitches like yourself too chickenshit to do anything but who still wish to sound tough on the internets. Wimps like you falsely believing you are not cowardly peons do nothing but enervate meaningful resistance.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 17:52 | 6000484 williambanzai7
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And then there is this: https://wikileaks.org/sony/press/

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:01 | 6000522 kaiserhoff
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How about Ed Snowden for President, William?

Yes, we can.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:24 | 6000599 ted41776
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try a search with "gov" in from field... hilarious!

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 17:56 | 6000495 Dre4dwolf
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Fuck washington.

same nobodies keeping the same chairs warm for the past 100 years, who gives a flying fuck.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:18 | 6000525 MonetaryApostate
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Maybe you'll be thinking differently with an RFID Implant in your right hand or head...

(Because some people do give a damn!)

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:21 | 6000588 new game
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sounds like you would comply. reread what you commented. chickenfuck comment...

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:24 | 6000598 MonetaryApostate
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It would never take that chip, PERIOD!

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 17:58 | 6000506 apberusdisvet
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I'm sure that some of the trolls on ZH work for Lack.  Every time someone makes a comment that there's no proof that Russia has invaded the Ukraine or that it was responsible for MH17, they appear like magic.  Buy why does Lack need money?  There are hundreds at certain AFBs that troll the internet for the psychos in charge.  Oh well; I guess redundancy (especially when its our money) is appropriate.   sarc/

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:26 | 6000613 messystateofaffairs
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There is nothing wrong with Lack, he's a nice Jewish person. 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:53 | 6000710 nailgunnin4you
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But why does Lack need money?

 

I'm doing my best to help Russian propaganda, 100% rootin4Putin here and I ask for no rubles in return. 

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 03:49 | 6002077 MEAN BUSINESS
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i - The Pedlar 1
A foggy woodland road, a crowded village square, the busy streets of Crown City - a wandering pedlar travels the land, uttering the ageless call.

"What do you lack?" 

------------------------

WALKING AMONG THE PEOPLE - who are so content, so blind - the Anarchist hears the pedlar's call, and sneers derisively. "What do I lack? Ah ... vengeance?" 

 

 

The Anarchist: Rush / live / 2012

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlAvCM9P2YA


Thu, 04/16/2015 - 17:59 | 6000508 Circle of DNA
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As usual - Great analisys by Paul Craig Roberts. Loved the interview by the Saker with PCR, however was hoping that he would shed a bit more light on the real puppet masters of western societies.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:29 | 6000875 madmax1965
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That is a great point!  He has worked at the highest levels of this mess we have for a government.  One would think he could enlighten us, as to who is really running this shit show!

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 17:59 | 6000513 Parrotile
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$15.4 Million is a lot of money to be spending on "Putting the US Viewpoint to the Fore" . . . . Must "maintain the Agenda" of indoctrination / deception.

Fifteen years of non-stop propaganda has "programmed" those at the bottom of the Command Structure too - the very ones who's actions will initiate launch. Might be worth bearing this in mind . . . . . .

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:02 | 6000516 kchrisc
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I nearly spit my beer out at "global warming."

"Global Warming." "Global Terror." "Global Order." Global Scams

My AK, AR, and Glock friends "think globally, act locally."

The banksters need to repay us.

 

I stand with Rothbard.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 02:22 | 6001991 MEAN BUSINESS
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Rothbard huh?

You're into drinking beer and talkin' history?

Good Will Hunting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymsHLkB8u3s&feature=player_detailpage#t=61

Way to shoot yourself in the foot kchrisc.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:03 | 6000529 Savyindallas
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PCR is the greatest living American patriot and truthsayer  -bar none. Everyone should be on his daily email list  -it's free. He operates solely on contributions and generosity of patriots. Look him up. 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:05 | 6000532 swass
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This is a little over-simplified here.  There are a lot of checks in place to help prevent accidental nuclear war.  The threats were actually much greater years ago too, such as when the US Air Force almost accidentally nuked California.

I do agree that the scaremongering is going to result in a war and/or chaos though.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 04:56 | 6002122 MEAN BUSINESS
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Do tell , what checks are in place to prevent AGW? Seeing as how you didn't mention the UCS's member's OTHER concern listed in this article, I thought I should ask. Do you think AGW will result in war/chaos?

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:05 | 6000536 MonetaryApostate
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I for one believe Dr. PCR was spot on, he has a dynamic view of the geopolitical situation like none other...

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:07 | 6000546 GRDguy
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In order for sociopathic banksters to make real money stealing from their fellow citizens, the countries they finance MUST have enemies.  The same outfits that finance Russia, China, the United States, and the United Kingdom all have large offices in all those same countries.  JP Morgan, Goldman-Sachs, Citi, etc. Just Google it yourself. They win, everybody else loses. That's why they're collectively called "The Great Red Dragon." (a serpent, "Snakes In Suits", whatever.)  The reason they can do this is that with no empathy nor conscience, they're already "dead."  No, they don't look like zombies, but they sure act like it. 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:41 | 6000618 MonetaryApostate
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How do you turn lead into gold??

(War, huh, good God, what is it good for?  Gold obviously...)  https://youtu.be/01-2pNCZiNk

In case you missed the truth...

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF...

And if you are wondering about who the REAL Financers of war are....

https://markcurtis.wordpress.com/2007/02/01/britains-secret-support-for-...

 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:17 | 6000818 GRDguy
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Britain, when referenced in finance, is the City of London Corporation, where financial rules are different. One can lie and steal more effectively from that place than other other place in the world, and not risk jail.  

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:47 | 6000553 JustObserving
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The world almost ended on October 28, 1962 with a launch of US nuclear missiles - 1 nuclear missile for Russia and 3 for China:

At the final moment of the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 1962, the U.S. nuclear missile men in Okinawa received a launch order

“Oh, my God!,” Bordne recalled his colleagues as saying as they turned white with shock and surprise when they received a launch order before dawn on Oct. 28. The order was issued from Kadena to all four Mace B sites in Okinawa including Bolo Point, he said.
According to him, the three-level confirmation process was taken step-by-step in accordance with a manual by comparing codes in the launch order and codes given to his crew team in advance. All of the codes matched.
“So, we read the targets out loud. Out of the four missiles, we had only one headed toward Russia. The other three were not going to Russia. That, right away, gave us a start to wonder. Because the launch directive said you launch all the missiles,” Bordne said. His crew team was in charge of four out of eight missiles deployed at the site.
“And we figured, ‘Why hit these other countries?’ They’ve got nothing to do with this. That doesn’t make any sense,” Bordne said. “So, our captain, the launch officer, said to us ‘We’ve got to think this through in a logical, rational manner’.”
When the launch order was issued, the five-level “DEFCON” scale, or defense condition, remained at level 2, one step from starting a war. Theoretically, a launch order should not be issued unless DEFCON is raised to 1, which means initiating a military counterattack against enemy forces.
The order under DEFCON 2 made the crew team, especially the launch officer, so dubious about its authenticity that the officer ordered suspension of the ongoing launch procedures which Bordne was engaged in.
Finally, the launch officer figured out that the order had been mistakenly issued, Bordne said, but added he has no idea why such an order was issued. Even though Bordne did not specify which country had been targeted besides Russia under the order, it is believed to be China considering the Mace B missile range of 2,200-2,300 kilometers.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/04/01/japanese-news-agency-reveals-...

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:10 | 6000555 Amy G. Dala
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Pass message to Vlad . . . I will be more flexible after my election.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:36 | 6000584 Monetas
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Obama is so flexible .... he licks his own lolly pop !

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:42 | 6000662 MonetaryApostate
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Russia is no dummy, they buzzed London with a Nuclear plane, they are clearly are NOT f_king around...

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:12 | 6000562 Mister Delicious
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"Remember the 3-week “cakewalk” Iraq war that would cost $70 billion and be paid out of Iraqi oil revenues? Now the cost is $3,000 billion and rising, and after 12 years the radical Islamic State controls half of the country. "

Iraq wasnt for oil - it was to get the result you see; that's the Oded Yinon plan.

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islam...

Amazing how many people look to Obama as having 'failed' - he's a fucking puppet and so was Shrub. Daddy Bush was a bad mothafucka, so he might have had some independence, but even he was punished by the Israel Lobby

http://www.wrmea.org/2002-may/distorting-u.s.-foreign-policy-the-israel-...

and the weaker they 'seem' - the more stories about swastikas at dorms and ny times pieces about some holocaust survivor in Bed Stuy - the more dangerous and reckless they are becoming.

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/03/israel-fingerprints-republican

The next Lavon Affair will happen, some suggest [GUCCIFER INCLUDED] this was to have been Chicago under Arch-Sayan and Sith Lord Rahmbo Emannuel, but there are a million ways.

The real shame of it is - even the average Israeli, while an argumentative fuck who probably has terrible taste in music and film doesn't care for the religious whackos [who take the anti-goyim shit in the Torah and Talmud to heart] or Bibi.

Bib got 25% of the vote in a country of 8 million people, 2 million of whom are the kids and grandkids of victims of Ashkenazi terrorism.

And his network of sayanim and right wing Likudnik Jews in high places makes him more powerful than Obama.

http://www.councilforthenationalinterest.org/new/lobby/the-israel-lobby-...

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Off Topic - but not entirely -

this is great Bobby Parry: https://consortiumnews.com/2015/04/16/syrian-rebels-caught-in-false-flag...

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:26 | 6000617 Monetas
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Bibi is the new "Moe's Ass" .... A Jew of Biblical stature .... he will lead Israel .... and save the Jews from annihilation .... and will put some whoop ass on Iran .... with the Saudi's blessing !

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:55 | 6000718 tony wilson and...
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monetas eye upticked

you

i love your jewish nose

your pink pale skin

ginger curly hair

and your saturnic talmoodick skull cap.

but your breath

buddy

try colgate fluoradated gargle juice

it will improve your beautiful kosher mind

and make your cock breath smell sweet

 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:14 | 6000568 silverer
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Dear Paul, to answer your question: Yes, I believe they most certainly will.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:15 | 6000574 Monetas
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There's a rock .... under every conspiracy !

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:43 | 6000671 MonetaryApostate
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No, there is a conspiracy under every rock, it's just that most people haven't learned to believe the opposite of what the MSM spews...

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:47 | 6000944 angel_of_joy
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There is a moron in every thread, in here. You are one of them...

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:16 | 6000578 windcatcher
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World War is inevitable; the totalitarian bankster Washington Empire of debt and fraud is in complete control of the USA. The Washington criminals will blow up the world rather than be brought to Justice.

The NSA is an extension of Professor Nash’s “Game Theory” with advanced computer technology “technocracy” which is the “dream come true” for the Washington Empire of totalitarian bankster fascist (merger of corporate monopoly with government).

The Washington Empire NSA is an arm of the bigger global bankster “vampire octopus on the face of mankind” totalitarian financial operation of debt servitude.

Americans are 60 Trillion dollars in debt to whom, the criminal banksters? The American Empire of debt didn’t just happen and no one in the Fed saw it coming; it was planned by the Washington criminal Rockefeller banksters via the Council on Foreign Relations and their traitor puppets in Congress.

Prosecute the criminals for treason, cancel the criminal debt and therefor save ourselves and the rest of the world from the criminal debt and world war.

Americans will regain the respect from the rest of the world by returning to business and dissolving the Federal Reserve. You kill the vampire octopus by cutting its beak out and it can do no more damage; than the octopus dies and you eat him.

The public executions for treason, televised to the rest of the world to prove that we are serious, will be widely received and cheered on as we chop the totalitarian, incurable psychopathic, criminal’s heads off.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:21 | 6000592 Latina Lover
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I beg to differ. Call me an optimist but WW3 is not inevitable, especially since the Russians and Chinese are wise to the games played by the western banksters.  Despite endless false flags, currency wars, threats, attacks, the Russian and Chinese are playing a defensive game, waiting for inevitable western economic implosion.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:29 | 6000625 Monetas
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Defensive ? Carrajo !

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:44 | 6000674 MonetaryApostate
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Oh my, someone with some brains, hoozah!  ^.^

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:48 | 6000940 madmax1965
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LL, you may be right.  However, I often think that they are all in bed together (Chinks, Russians as well as western banksters).  Back when I was starting to wake up.  I did some research on China's central bank and sure as shit, Ivy leauge douchebags from Harvard and Columbia were involved in the set up of it.  I apologize for not having links, or the time to look for my notes from back then.  Not sure about the Russian CB, but that would be interesting to research.  So, our demise is baked in IMHO.  They have almost bled us dry, time to move on to a new host.

 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:49 | 6000953 Parrotile
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 > The Russian and Chinese are playing a defensive game, waiting for inevitable western economic implosion.

Not necessarily.  US / NATO actions are intended to provoke, and if that provocation is  successful, then the US / NATO will have gained control of the resulting conflict (i.e. they created conflict at a time and place that suited them).

By refusing to "play the game", Russia (and China) do not allow this situational control, and probably have their own plans to "manage" the situation in a manner of their choosing, at a time and place that is best for them (so gaining situational control).

This is hardly anything new, and such basic strategic planning has been taught to many generations of "Officer Material" Worldwide, for many decades . . .

As for mutual defence treaties?? - http://blogs.reuters.com/anatole-kaletsky/2014/05/22/china-russia-is-a-match-made-in-heaven-and-thats-scary/ (though many may "have issues" with the assertion that Russia is a "declining" Nation, when all hard evidence rather points to the opposite!!)

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:51 | 6000960 windcatcher
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In reply to Latin Lover: Implosion or explosion? Do you see any of the American bankster criminals brought to Justice? That would be an implosion.

The criminals have their finger on the trigger rather than be brought to Justice. That would be an explosion. Ha. Ha. Ha.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:17 | 6000580 messystateofaffairs
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RT has an easy job. All they have to do to tear the western MSM a new asshole is uncover their numerous lies by telling the truth. RT does not even need to weave any tangled web of their own lies which improves their credibility.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:24 | 6000597 Latina Lover
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Exactly. They hate RT for their freedom, LOL.

 

 

RT may be a russian state agency, but they need not spin the endless lies the Western MSM has to spew to keep their phony narrative going.  Eventually, the Truth always emerges, albiet sometimes too late.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:31 | 6000632 Monetas
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So, RT is liberal rag .... unecumbered by the restraints of our liberal rag MSM .... I think they both suck !

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:27 | 6000620 falak pema
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well, if PCR says the neocons are crazed to the point of blowing up the world who can doubt it; as he invented Reaganomics and saw that beast morph under his President in Star Wars ramp up of MIC.

It did achieve the demise of SU. 

But now the US has a new cold war. Some pathogenic strains die hard. Especially when the Empire is being challenged so hard.

And Dr Strangelove may have spawned some sons after Cuba face-off died thanks to JFK. 

10000 + nuclear warheads around and some people still think they can preempt and win the big one. 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:27 | 6000621 blindman
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power corrupts, absolute power corrupts
absolutely." lord acton.
it is the money system that will destroy us all,
by design. that was the intention from the start
and it worked. well done. the question is
will the people be sentient
enough to grasp the virtual destruction/s before
the actual physical destruction is set in motion;
will man disregard his vomit and come to his senses?
i have hopes and dreams, still, in the late hours.
not that there is anything fundamentally evil
concerning man's vomit. you just can't survive
on it as in "man does not live by his vomit alone."
anyway ^tm poems
.
Because power corrupts, society's demands for moral authority and character increase as the importance of the position increases.
John Adams
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/keywords/power_corrupts.html#tAYL92x5g...

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 18:34 | 6000635 MEAN BUSINESS
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."However, there is now an overwhelming scientific consensus that global warming is indeed happening and humans are contributing to it." - Union of Concerned Scientists

 

http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/science/scienti...

------------------------------ .2015: "Unchecked climate change, global nuclear weapons modernizations, and outsized nuclear weapons arsenals pose extraordinary and undeniable threats to the continued existence of humanity, and world leaders have failed to act with the speed or on the scale required to protect citizens from potential catastrophe. 
Bulletin Of The Atomic Scientists - It's 3 Minutes to Midnight http://thebulletin.org/timeline -------------------------
"The Union of Concerned Scientists, of which I am a member, need to come to their senses."-PCR
The IPCC did on 02NOV14.
Great to see Paul Craig Roberts call UCS out on that.

 

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