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300 US Paratroopers Arrive In Ukraine After Russia Says Its Missiles Will Target NATO Member States

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While the escalation of the second Cold War between Russia and the US over their proxy conflict in Ukraine has been relegated to the back pages due to the lack of any flash points in recent months, events in eastern Europe continue to build up to an increasingly unstable equilibrium. Just yesterday, Russia again accused the United States of "seeking political and military dominance and sought to put blame on the West for international security crises, including the conflict in east Ukraine."

It didn't stop there. According to the WSJ, Russia’s top general warned European countries planning to host installations for a U.S.-led missile-defense shield that Russian forces would be forced to target them.

“Nonnuclear powers where missile-defense installations are being installed have become the objects of priority response,” Gen. Valery Gerasimov said, referring to Poland and Romania.

It was unclear if Russia would use conventional weapons or tactical short-range nuclear missiles for deterrence purposes.

The comments came at a defense conference in Moscow where a series of high-level Russian leaders repeatedly warned of perceived threats that the U.S. and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization posed to modern Russia.

Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said, according to Reuters, that a drive by the United States and its allies to bring Kiev closer to the West was a threat to Moscow and had forced it to react.

"The United States and its allies have crossed all possible lines in their drive to bring Kiev into their orbit. That could not have failed to trigger our reaction," he told an annual security conference in Moscow.

General Valery Gerasimov, chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, reiterated Russia's warning: "Considering themselves the winners of the Cold War, the United States decided to reshape the world to fit its needs."

"Aiming at complete dominance, Washington stopped taking into account the interests of other countries and respect international law."

When asked about the annexation of Crimea and the ongoing conflict in Ukraine, Shoigu "blamed the violence on Kiev and sought to dismiss Western criticism that Russia was forcibly remaking European borders, pointing in turn to Western military involvement in Serbia, Iraq and Libya."

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told the conference attended by envoys from China, Iran, Pakistan and some of Russia's regional allies, that Kiev had to deliver on its obligations under peace agreements reached in Minsk to "safeguard unity of the Ukrainian state".

The problem is that at this point it doesn't matter who started what, where and how: just like the Intifada, or any other regional, thousand year-old conflict in Europe or any other part of the world, all that remains are the escalating steps, and how long until one of the two adversaries snaps and engages in an action from which there is no return.

Yet despite Russia's very clear threat that its missiles are now armed at two more NATO countries, and numerous previous warnings that the official dispatch of US troops in Ukraine, besides the countless ones who are there on a mercenary basis, will lead to a flash point in the second Cold War, earlier today 300 hundred US paratroopers arrived in Ukraine - a non-NATO country - to "train its forces fighting pro-Russian rebels" according to the US army website.

As AFP notes, the move could "destabilize" the war-torn ex-Soviet country, which clearly is the intention. Because as we have warned on numerous occasions, the entire world is now headed into an event horizon in which the neo-cons have bet that only regional (or not so regional) war can be the economic stimulus that pushes the world out of its global depressed funk. Just like the first Great Depression.

According to AFP, the troops from the 173rd Airborne Brigade arrived on Tuesday and Wednesday in Yavoriv, western Ukraine, to spend six months training three battalions of Ukrainian troops, the army said in a statement.

 

"We will have about 300 soldiers from the brigade on the ground providing the training that will last over the next six months," said US army spokesman Donald Wrenn.

Moscow was obviously displeased: "The participation of instructors and experts from third countries on Ukrainian territory ... of course, does not help to resolve the conflict," president Vladimir Putin's spokesman Dmitry Pekov said, quoted by Russian news agencies.

"On the contrary, it can seriously destabilise the situation."

Just as Russian troops training Mexican Federales would be sternly frowned upon by the Obama administration. 

But that's doesn't matter: what matters is that US troops will now train the National Guard of Ukraine, a reservist force that was reformed in 2014 to bring volunteers and militia under government control. They will do so literally within meters of the Russian border.

"We will be conducting classes on war-fighting functions, as well as training to sustain and increase the professionalism and proficiency of military staffs," Major Jose Mendez, operations officer for the brigade, was quoted as saying on the US army website.

 

Ukraine had asked the United States to send the training mission, dubbed Operation Fearless Guardian, according to an article published by the US army on April 11.

This is what paratroopers, from the 173rd Airborne Brigade, arriving at Lviv International Airport on April 11, 2015 look like courtesy of the US Army's website:

According to the US Army the brigade, as the Army Contingency Response Force in Europe, is conducting continuous operations in six different countries. 

"This is the new norm for the 173rd," Mendez said. "The 173rd is in a special position, as the only forwardly-positioned airborne brigade in Europe, we have the ability to be anywhere in the U.S. European Command area of responsibility in 18 hours or less."

The brigade has trained with Ukrainian forces in international exercises throughout Europe, as well as within Ukraine, most recently last September in the Rapid Trident series of exercises, an annual U.S. Army Europe-led exercise designed to promote regional stability and security. The two forces are scheduled to participate in Exercise Rapid Trident 2015 later this year.

More:

Paratroopers, from the 173rd Airborne Brigade, arrive at Lviv International Airport in Lviv, Ukraine, April 11, 2015, in support of Fearless Guardian, a program to train Ukrainian national guard troops.

 

A ground convoy drove all the way from the brigade's base in northern Italy to the Ukrainian military zone in Yavoriv near the Polish border, with vehicles and equipment.

 

The US and Ukrainian armies stressed the equipment was for use by the US brigade in the training and is not to be issued to Ukrainian forces. Fifty paratroopers travelled with that 25-vehicle convoy, which arrived on April 10, while further troops arrived on April 14 and 15, the US army website said.

 

Ukraine's defence ministry said in a statement that the training would begin with a ceremony on April 20.

What happens after will likely assure the second consecutive very "volatile" summer. The good news for economists whose GDP predictions will be dead wrong once more, is that they will have yet another aspect of that thing called "reality" to blame it on.

 

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Fri, 04/17/2015 - 17:52 | 6004564 Hongcha
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Just another training run; camera-ready on the tarmac.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:04 | 6004606 Burt Gummer
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Meanwhile armed national guard troops march through ontario california.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZihgUF25XKI

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:39 | 6004732 TruthInSunshine
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All drama.

Paratroopers are antiquated when used against anyone possessing even remotely new gen weaponry and are akin to shooting clays.

We'll next see SEAL Teams arriving via submarine underwater insertion, with condoms on the tips of their M4s as they wade unto the beachhead.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:39 | 6004738 wee-weed up
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Obozo's just itchin' to start WWIII.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:48 | 6004764 TruthInSunshine
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Nuland-Kagan-ZIOCON-PNAC Special Forces TEAM 666.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 19:13 | 6004854 negative rates
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Born in the usa, i was    born in the usa.....................

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 19:22 | 6004888 nope-1004
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300?  What is the border like 6 miles long or something?  This is ridiculous and obviously just a photo op.

 

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 19:26 | 6004906 StupidEarthlings
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Exactly what I was thinking. 

300..meh..gonna be a quick 'war' i guess.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 19:29 | 6004915 nope-1004
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Nobody has a camera ready showing troop numbers, detail, and location if invasion or war is close at hand.  This is so fake.

 

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 19:45 | 6004954 Latina Lover
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More cheap theater by the USSA neocon idiots, doubling down on a losing hand.  Having lost Crimea to Russia, and Donbass, they are stuck pretending they are still relevant.  In a few years, the USSA will get bored, and the Ukies will be the discarded used up whores.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 19:47 | 6004962 knukles
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Well listen y'all.  That makes sense.  See Pootie says that Rooskie missiles are targeting NATO countries so moving the paras to Ukraine is safer for our men in uniform since Ukraine's not a NATO member.
See see see I todja so.  You heard it here, first.  Impeccable logic.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:08 | 6005023 Latina Lover
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Are you sure you are not a senior policy advisor for the MIC? (LOL)

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:14 | 6005037 TahoeBilly2012
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Goyim burger anyone?

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:25 | 6005074 Monetas
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I'm proud of our paratroopers .... Putin, Obama and Latin Lover .... not so much ! Latin Lover .... fix Latin America .... then you will have some credibility .... to fix our problems !

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:39 | 6005122 Latina Lover
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You mean the Ukie Paratroopers?  I feel sorry for them because they will die horribly to further enrich USSA banksters.  Their deaths will be meaningless.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 21:13 | 6005222 Manthong
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It’s just a good thing that the huge number of trillion fiat units wasted on sociopathic pipe dreams will never be repaid to anyone.

..but it’s a bad thing that the collateral damage to human civilization will cost so much more.

 

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 21:24 | 6005248 Manthong
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Crap.. I didn’t know about compressibility burble until I saw six blades on that C-130.

It looks at home on that former Soviet turf.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 06:42 | 6005869 Element
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No biggie, these are just bored soldiers on leave who volunteered to help out, so there are actually no US military forces in Ukraine today, at all ... no really ... it's all true! ...

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 07:30 | 6005897 overmedicatedun...
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if you asked the us troops why they are there? most likely the ans would be : fuck if I know , sarg said we go there that's where we go. and then they would tell you they have no ammo for the weapons, much like the marines in lebanon on guard when the mad bomber drove thru the check point..never given ammo.

military loves sitting duck and bait games, to get the feel of putin's intent..300 targets.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 10:44 | 6006144 viahj
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someone tell the CIC that this isn't Sparta

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:59 | 6005195 kchrisc
Fri, 04/17/2015 - 22:45 | 6005401 fleur de lis
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"Nuland-Kagan-ZIOCON-PNAC Special Forces TEAM 666."

@TruthinSunshine--they are 'beggars on horseback' and do not have the guts to fight. They would all get killed in a barfight. They get everybody to do the fighting for them then they show up for the looting. This is what happens when borderless political nomads control entire nations.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 19:51 | 6004975 WhyWait
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US Trainers will be in the line of fire when the Ukie Army collapses after their next defeat.  They don't have to be effective to do their job, they just have to get killed.  

A trip wire is usually a force put in place to deter an opponent with the threat of setting off something bigger.  This is more like a booby trap. A sacrifice.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:40 | 6005126 Latina Lover
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Yes, they will be sacrificed to enrage the USSA masses into another war.  If I owned property near Yellowstone, I would be selling.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 21:51 | 6005298 trulz4lulz
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And if I had property in el Salvador, I'd be moving there, pronto.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 03:37 | 6005749 Haus-Targaryen
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I hear this all the time. This is a horrible miscalculation and you are putting your life and that of your family at risk for the opportunity to watch the end of the world while wearing a sombrero drinking margaritas and laying in the sun. Latin America and her governments will only keep smiling and calling you senior as long as the USD is king. As soon as your purchasing power evaporates you have a lot of countries that have been on the receiving end of the US's shit for decades will "return fire" on stranded expats.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 07:38 | 6005900 agent default
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Remember Nassau.

It not a miscalculation it is delusion plain and simple.  Some people think that they will move to a totally foreign land and usually unstable, usually with a substantially lower standard of living and survive there when everything else collapses.  Get real and in a hurry.  A few questions to ponder before making such a move.  If things get so bad that the US collapses, what will the economies of these countries become?  How will you as a foreigner with zero ties to the local population, just living off your cash intend to make it?  Will the local population tolerate you, of will they turn against you at the first sign of trouble?  Will you become the target of crime because you are perceived of as better off than anybody else?  How do you intend to make ends meet if our funds abroad become inaccessible for whatever reason? 

Also there have been some articles here from time to time about second citizenship programs.  You are fooling yourself big time with this one. You will be spending (a lot)money of on something that at best, will be useless when you really need it, and/or spectacularly backfire on you at worst.  For one thing, good luck getting through the compliance department of any major bank with one of these.  White guy from Dominica (WTF right there) wants to make a substantial deposit??? Don't think so, not in today's banking environment.  They will tell you to cut the crap and produce your real identification, assuming they don't show you the door outright.  You will also need to own some property there as proof of address.  Sure, real estate in St.Kitts nice place never mind the crime rate (home to the murder capital of the world BTW).  Your  place will get looted  the moment  you turn your head away.   These are the easy problems. 

The serious backfire:  In the not so distant future,  the US government sighting terrorism threats (just to name the obvious) demands an immediate hand over of the names of all US citizens that participated in second citizenship programs. I know they exclude the Middle East, but get real here.  Think Dominica and St.Kitts will stand up for you and say no?  How do you intend to handle the scrutiny from the DHS and not to mention the IRS?  What happens when they freeze the assets of every person of those lists globally on the grounds of terrorism/money laundering/tax fraud?  Notice that in all of these offenses there is presumption of guilt today.

Go for the expat option if you want to stay in another place you enjoy more than the US.  But if you are counting on it as a survival option, you are probably stepping into a death trap of epic proportions (literally a death trap).  When you really need, it you will have even less than nothing.  You will be a refugee in a third world country, that has probaly take waaaay too much shit from the US government for waaaay too long.

 

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 08:01 | 6005933 Latina Lover
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As an expat American living in a south american country, I agree with many of your observations, but you take it to an extreme.  Expats that marry into the community, or have long standing work ties, will do just fine.  For most gringos, however, they are safer staying home.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 09:44 | 6006025 agent default
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By extreme I think you mean the "death trap" part.  Well if you are talking about running away from the burning US, you are already in extreme end of the spectrum. You are right it is extreme.  Every other point I have made, most of it is common sense and experience about how the world works.  Especially if you have visited these parts of the world.  The second passport rant comes from true horror stories of the private banking world as witnessed by me and several others.  It was suspect for banks even before FATCA and even before 9/11, when  most countries stopped their second passport programs. 

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 07:05 | 6008043 I am a Man I am...
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ask edward snowden if he wishes he had a second passport

btw, your questions to ponder are idiotic, i don't know where to begin

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 07:35 | 6008062 agent default
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So you could answer/deconstruct every single one of them right?  Ok, I am waiting.  I am also very keen for an explanation about how Snowden would have no trouble if he had second citizenship. Your ignorance of the existing laws and procedures is really stunning and terrifying at the same time. 

 

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 22:46 | 6005424 willwork4food
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A trip wire is usually a force put in place to deter an opponent with the threat of setting off something bigger.  This is more like a booby trap. A sacrifice.

Exactly what I was thinking too.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 22:47 | 6005427 Werekoala
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First thing I thought too - wonder which one(s) will get killed first...

 

*sigh*

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 09:34 | 6006026 Freddie
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The majority of Ukrainain men do not want to fight for the Z-scum dual shitizens running Kiev/Ukraine.

American soldiers, like American citizens, are lower than illegal aliens and have few rights than illegals.  Keep dying and getting blown up for the bankster scum like chumps.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:45 | 6005143 bid the soldier...
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not to worry, it's just crabs

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 21:03 | 6005201 sam i am
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US-NATO war on Russia (March-April 2015) Grasp the scale of the conflict that is creeping up below the radar: The US stealth preparations for attack on Russia

 

The Russian politically correct title for the NATO maneuvers in Europe is "trying to scare a hedgehog with a naked butt."

US powerbrokers are convinced that America’s economic slide can only be arrested by staking a claim in Central Asia, dismembering Russia, encircling China, and quashing all plans for an economically-integrated EU-Asia. Washington is determined to prevail in this existential conflict, to assert its hegemonic control over the two continents, and to preserve its position as the world’s only superpower. But first, the US has to win in the war with Russia.

The following is an incomplete list of US-NATO preparation for the war in Europe.

1.         24 February: Dutch Fighting Vehicles and the Dutch 43rd Mechanized Brigade ArriveIn Estonia http://www.defence24.com/news_dutch-fighting-vehicles-arrive-in-estonia

 

2.         3 March 2015:  The United States Will Fund Equipment Purchases And Training For The Ukrainian Army

 http://www.defence24.com/news_the-united-states-will-fund-equipment-purchases-and-training-for-the-ukrainian-army

 

3.         4 March 2015:  Canadian Armed Forces deployed to the Mid-Eastern Europe region http://www.defence24.com/news_canadians-reinforce-the-nato-eastern-flank

4.         10 March 2015: 750 pieces of US Army military equipment like tanks & helicopters, arrived in Riga, Latvia; US Mission to NATO

5.         13 March 2015: 13 000 Soldiers Involved In Training Within The Estonian Firing Ranges – “Equivalent of Mobilisation”

 http://www.defence24.com/news_13-000-soldiers-involved-in-training-within-the-estonian-firing-ranges-equivalent-of-mobilisation

 

6.         13 March 2015:          NATO “Spearhead” NATO Quick Reaction Forces Will Be Stationed In Poland

 http://www.defence24.com/news_nato-spearhead-will-be-stationed-in-poland-soon

 

7.         19 march 2015: Abrams Tanks – Again In Poland

http://www.defence24.com/news_abrams-tanks-again-in-poland

Soldiers of the 1st Brigade of 3rd Infantry Division arrive to Poland

8.         20 March 2015:    US Army Patriot Missiles In Poland  http://www.defence24.com/news_us-army-patriot-missiles-in-poland

9.         21 March, 2015:  British Military Instructors Arrive In Ukraine http://www.defence24.com/news_british-military-instructors-arrive-in-ukraine

10.       22 March:  Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force with US NAVY Forward Deployed Naval Forces started Multi-Sail 2015

11.       24 March:  The US  Brigade is stationed in Romania, only 10 kilometers from Odessa region

http://www.stripes.com/news/europe/atlantic-resolve-mission-pushes-beyond-baltics-into-romania-1.336325

 

12.       24 March, 2015:         Dragoon Ride Operation In Poland. US Armored Vehicles Passing Through Mid-Eastern Europe NATO Operation Atlantic Resolve

http://www.defence24.com/news_dragoon-ride-operation-in-poland-us-armoured-vehicles-passing-through-mid-eastern-europe

 

13.       25 ?????: USA started the military drills in Romania and Bulgaria... Romania -- Operation Atlantic Resolve South has landed. -- the USA preparations to attack Russia approaches the point of no return;

14.       26 March:   Romania -- UH60s arriving at Mihail Kog?lniceanu Air Base to support Operation Atlantic Resolve South

15.       25 March 2015: The joint exercise of Swedish, Finnish and US air forces in Baltic Sea, with the Americans being stationed in Estonia

 http://www.defence24.com/news_american-swedish-and-finnish-fighters-operating-over-the-baltic-sea-russian-bombers-were-intercepted

16.       26 ?????: Trains with heavy American weaponry move across the neutral Austria

????? ??????? ?? ?????? ???? ??????? ? ???????????? ?????????????

17.       26 March 2015: The US A-10 attack aircrafts Deployed To Powidz Air Base, Poland http://www.defence24.com/news_a-10-deployed-to-powidz-ab-warthogs-support-the-dragoon-ride-operation

18.       26 March 2015: Armored HMMWV’s Delivered To Ukraine http://www.defence24.com/news_armoured-hmmwvs-delivered-to-ukraine

19.       27 March:  Latvia -- Exercise Summer Shield in ?daži with Royal Canadian Regiment troops and US NATO Allies Latvia -- Operation Summer Shield: 1100 forces from Latvia, Lithuania, Germany, Luxembourg, Canada, US in ?daži

20.       27 March:   The US Threat Reduction Agency Stands Up Nuke-focused Directorate http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=128481

21.       28 March:  12 F-15 Eagle fighter aircraft, 200 Airmen to Europe for Atlantic Resolve

22.       27 March 2015: The US Air Force launched two more Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missiles over the Pacific Ocean.

http://www.airforcetimes.com/story/military/2015/03/27/nuclear-missile-test-launches-in-one-week/70540860/

23.       28 March: The Black Sea, US UH60 conducting water training in Operation Atlanti Resolve South

24.       29 March:    NATO started drills in Romania for Operation Wind Spring, multinational US, UK, Romania security cooperation

25.       29 March:     US-Dutch training on Javelin anti-tank missile in combined defensive live-fire exercise at Grafenwoehr Training Area

26.       29 March 2015:          British Royal Air Force held their largest air combat exercises in 13 years

http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150329/1020175245.html

27.       29 March:       A column of Dragoon Ride had a delay of 7 hours at Harrachov because a US Army Stryker armored vehicles broke down

28.       31 March:       US Soldiers To Reach Ukraine In April. the US Army’s 173rd Airborne Brigade will be deployed to the Lvov District

http://www.defence24.com/news_us-soldiers-to-reach-ukraine-in-april

29.       April 2015:      The Bundeswehr’s units will start using of the Puma IFV’s as parts of a part of the NATO quick reaction forces

 http://www.defence24.com/news_canadians-reinforce-the-nato-eastern-flank

 

30.       April 2015:      The Defense Department starts training the Ukraine National Guard beginning in late April

30.       April:   The USS Porter will arrive to NAVSTA Rota port on April 30

31.       1 April:             the US is rebuilding the Iron Curtain along a thousand mile stretch from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea

http://www.unz.com/mwhitney/washingtons-war-on-russia

Tanks, armored vehicles and artillery are being sent to the region to reinforce a buffer zone around Europe in order to isolate Russia and to create a staging ground for future US aggression.

 

32.       April:   Operation Saber Junction Phase 2 begins in April

Will see nearly 5,000 participants from 17 nations train at Army Europe's Joint Multinational Training Command Hohenfels Training Area Germany and at distributed locations in Italy, Lithuania and Romania.

http://www.army.mil/article/145053/

 

33.       April  1:   Research Report: "Nuclear Implications of the Russian-Ukrainian Conflict" by NATO Defense College

 http://www.ndc.nato.int/news/current_news.php?icode=789

Very important publication missed by many stating that the US and Canada stand in favor of  nuclear weapon use in Europe.  

34.       April  4:           US Fighter Jets Send Message to China With ‘Emergency’ Landing in Taiwan

http://sputniknews.com/asia/20150402/1020385361.html

35.       April 7-9         NATO’s Anti-Russia Spearhead Force Conducts First Exercise

 The Spearhead Force is part of the Alliance’s larger NATO Response Force, which is being increased to a force level of around 30,000 troops

http://russia-insider.com/en/natos-spearhead-force-conducts-first-exercise/5529

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-09/nato-conducts-first-test-russia-rapid-response-force

36.       April  7:           America Will Lose Patience with European Appeasement http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/natosource/america-will-lose-patience-with-european-appeasement

America is running out of money and time before the financial collapse and wants Europe to hurry up and start "sacrificing" itself in war with Russia.

37.       APRIL 8:           Belgian F-16 Fighters Will Stay In Poland Until August

http://www.defence24.com/news_belgian-f-16-fighters-will-stay-in-poland-until-august

38.       APRIL 7:           Russian Su-27 Intercepts US Spy Plane Heading Into Russian Airspace      

http://sputniknews.com/military/20150411/1020753530.html

39.         APRIL 9:         A joint declaration, the defense ministers of Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark and Iceland said Northern Europe must prepare for possible crises with Russia.

http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/uriks/Russian-aggression-Nordic-states-extend-their-military-cooperation-7975109.html

 

40.       APRIL 9:           Polish Border Guard Acquires 1.5 Million 9x19 mm Parabellum Rounds. Observation Towers To Be Erected Near The Russian Kaliningrad Oblast Border.

http://www.defence24.com/news_polish-border-guard-acquires-15-million-9x19-mm-parabellum-rounds-observation-towers-to-be-erected-near-the-kaliningrad-oblast-border

 

41.       April  10:         many countries have American nuclear weapons on their soil that make them nuclear nations but these countries would never be allowed to fire them without permission from the USA…       just like “Britain’s” nuclear deterrent…           Trident!

http://atrueindependentscotland.com/andrew-neil-loses-the-plot-with-stewart-hosie

 

42.       April   10:        NATO Reduces Size of Russian Delegation After Internal Reports of Espionage

http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/natosource/nato-reduces-size-of-russian-delegation-after-internal-reports-of-espionage

 

43        April   11:        NATO ships arrive in Scotland for massive joint exercises

http://rt.com/uk/248921-nato-scotland-joint-excercises

http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_118674.htm

 

44.       April  12:         Estonia President Toomas Ilves seeks permanent Nato force

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32274170

45.       April  12:  TTIP set to become the economic arm of NATO

46.       April  12:  At Stanford, key diplomat describes changing face of NATO

http://fsi.stanford.edu/news/stanford-key-diplomat-describes-changing-face-nato

47.       April  10:  Russia slams NATO’s ‘odd’ plans to cap partner-states missions

http://rt.com/news/248773-nato-russia-mission-cut

 

48.       April  10:         Rosomak APCs Deployed To Hohenfels – 700 Kilometres Covered To Reach The German Base

http://www.defence24.com/news_rosomak-apcs-deployed-to-hohenfels-700-kilometres-covered-to-reach-the-german-base

 

49.       April  12:   NATO via faznet to publish the warning to Russia: If Kiev junta resumes hostilities, arms will flow.  NATO will not tolerate further territorial expansion by anti-NATO anti-junta population  in Eastern Ukraine.

Ukraine „Separatisten haben mehr Waffen als zuvor“

http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ausland/nato-besorgt-separatisten-haben-mehr-waffen-als-zuvor-13532940.html

 

50.       April  12:         NATO Official's Derisive 'Geography Lesson'  for Russians Gets Maps Wrong

http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150412/1020796564.html

NATO spokesman Lt. Col. Jay Janzen got his foot caught in his mouth over the weekend after posting a tweet mocking Russian Foreign Ministry statements that NATO exercises in Romania were considered "confrontational."

 

51.       April 12:  US protests 'unsafe' intercept of reconnaissance plane by Russian fighter jet over Baltic Sea

http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2015/04/12/us-protests-intercept-of-reconnaissance-plane-by-russia

 

52.       April 12:          Russia's space defense troops spot foreign spying satellites

http://rt.com/news/249001-spy-satellites-disclosed-russia

 

53.       April 13:          NATO Drills Begin in Lithuania on Monday

According to Lithuania’s Defense Ministry, NATO exercise Fire Thunder using US Paladin M109A6 artillery systems has begun in country

http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150413/1020821324.html

 

54.       APRIL 13:  Ukrainian Crisis Prompts European Countries to Boost Military Spending

http://sputniknews.com/military/20150413/1020806291.html

 

55.       April 13:          Inquiry Dismisses Sighting of Russian Submarine Near Stockholm

Last October’s allegations that a Russian submarine had been spotted in the waters around Stockholm have been proven to be false by a Swedish Armed Forces' investigation.

http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150413/1020816813.html

 

56.       April 13:  First Anniversary of Kiev’s Military Operation in East Ukraine

On April 13, 2014, Kiev decided to launch a military operation against independence supporters in eastern Ukraine.

http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150413/1020808819.html

 

57.       April 13:          Mysterious Ukrainian Company Sells NATO Equipment

VT Group offers consumers more than 2000 different items and has over 40,000 pieces of equipment ranging from road, construction, and track passenger machinery.

http://sputniknews.com/military/20150412/1020802028.html

 

58.       April 13:   US shows muscles right at the Russian border

USA viser muskler rett ved russergrensa

http://www.dagbladet.no/2015/04/10/nyheter/utenriks/nato/russland/38636746/

 

59.       April 12:          General Secretary CSTO Nikolay Bordyuzha: NATO Engages into the Civil War in Ukraine

NATO's command centers in 6 countries along the Russian borders is the direct preparation for war with Russia.

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???? ??????????? ???????? ? ???????????? ???????????? -

Collective Security Treaty Organization CSTO

http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1914862.html

Related to this interview:  NATO to Set Up Command Centers on Eastern Flank

http://www.wsj.com/articles/nato-to-set-up-command-centers-on-eastern-flank-1422618612

 

60.       April 13:          100 Additional Leopard Tanks For The Bundeswehr

http://www.defence24.com/news_100-additional-leopard-tanks-for-the-bundeswehr

 

61.       April 14:          Russians arrive in Scotland to inspect NATO exercise

http://rt.com/uk/249509-russia-inspectors-nato-exercise/

 

62.       April 14:          Romania -- A-10 Thunderbolts II fly above Campia Turzii, April 14, Operation Atlantic Resolve  - 10kilometres from Odessa region and 200 kilometers from Crimes, Russia.

 

63.       April 15:          NATO will use all its power against Russia if necessary - head of the NATO military Committee

? ???? ???????????? ???? ???????? ????? ????? ??? ???? ????, — ????? ???????? ???????? ????

http://24tv.ua/news/showNews.do?u_razi_neobhidnosti_nato_zastosuye_proti_rosiyi_usyu_svoyu_silu__glava_voyennogo_komitetu_nato&objectId=565486

64.       April 16:          Joint Romanian-American-British army drills this month in Romania

http://www.romania-insider.com/joint-romanian-american-british-army-drills-this-month-in-romania/146796/                       

? ??????? ??????????? ????????? ???????? ????

http://24tv.ua/news/showNews.do?u_rumuniyi_rozpochalis_viyskovi_navchannya_nato&objectId=565397

 65.      April 16:          Europe 'At Hybrid War' With Russia, Says Former Nato Chief

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/04/24/former-nato-chief-says-europe-hybrid-war-putin-322293.html

Even the Western madmen of NATO started expressing nostalgia about the "predictable USSR."  The good 'ol USSR now seems "safer"  than new, dynamic, and patriotic Russia. Hmmm... 

 

66.       April 16:          More German troops in Baltic Countries by 2016

German Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen kicked off a two-day visit to the Baltic states on Tuesday

http://www.dw.de/germany-assures-estonia-of-nato-backing/a-18380460

 

67.       HOHENFELS, Germany, Saber Junction 15  NATO military drills runs April 1-30, 2015.

http://www.army.mil/article/146467

Saber Junction 15, which includes more than 4,700 participants from 17 countries, prepares NATO and partner-nation armies for offensive, defensive and stability operations.

see more here http://thesaker.is/ukraine-sitrep-april-16th-by-scott/

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 21:59 | 6005324 trulz4lulz
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That list reads like an old dog, begging his new master to put him out of his misery and end his suffering.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 23:04 | 6005484 SilverRhino
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Holy Shit.  They are way further along than I expected.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 23:16 | 6005510 Latina Lover
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Let them invade Russia,   5 tactical nukes ought to do it.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 02:15 | 6005737 TheReplacement
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Kill the grunts.  Yeah, like that will solve anything.  The people who sent them to die will still be alive to send more.

Try to think for a change.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 08:04 | 6005937 Latina Lover
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“Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”

? Henry Kissinger

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 10:52 | 6006161 viahj
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just because Kissinger's huge ego led to this sort of hubris, doesn't make it true.  they are a lot of very bright and promising people in our military, they just need to be led through the haze of propaganda. 

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 10:48 | 6006156 viahj
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it's the responsibility of the citizenry to handle the politicos who sent our troops to die in yet another illegal war.  this is why it continues.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 02:13 | 6005735 TheReplacement
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Helluva post.  o7

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 14:13 | 6006603 Tigermoth
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Sam: Here is another one for your list:

http://thesaker.is/cyberberkut-has-published-the-list-of-names-of-wester...

"Military instructors from the USA, Denmark, Poland, Germany and other countries arrive to the Ukraine to help Kiev.

The Ukrainian hackers-activists have published the list of western instructors’ names. These people are reported to plan provocations in the south-eastern the Ukraine.

We, the CyberBerkut, warn the people of Donbass and inform the people of the Ukraine: in the nearest future the criminal government of the Ukraine is planning to take up some set of provocations at the boundary with Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics. Moreover, Kiev Junta is planning to extent and expand the escalation of military conflict in the south-east of the Ukraine. This is what our agents report from Kiev: from 12th April till 6th May a group of western military instructors arrive in the Ukraine and start their anti-national activity” – this report is cited by RIA Novosti.

As you can see from the scans of documents the coup regime in Kiev is supported by military experts from different countries: the USA, Poland, Estonia, Finland, Turkey, Norway, Latvia, France, Denmark, Austria, Spain, Albania, Portugal, Croatia, Iceland and Slovakia. The majority of experts come from the USA."

The full list of the advisors' names is in the post and the letter. I would be more worried about these people than the 300. I remember Vietnam (and some others) started something like this.

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 09:06 | 6008155 Wile-E-Coyote
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All that NATO hardware works great against third world countries. NATO's strength is its weakness, tactical nukes and EMPs would devistate these armies. This war will be differant.

Add one more to the list fishing trawler nearly dragged under by unknown sub caught in it nets off SW Northern Ireland. Let me guess Russian sub patrolling near UK Faslane nuclear base.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:58 | 6004810 BullyBearish
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Tick Tock Tick Tock...

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:24 | 6005062 Milestones
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Night jump at say 800 ft.Tthe shute is deployed at 100 ft, Count to two and your on the ground. You must be one hell of a shot,     Milestones

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 21:28 | 6005255 tony wilson and...
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i wonder what these transgender change agents think of the cia killing all the guys from seal team 6 fake bin ladin paki take down.

 

these heroes of hebrew histories look tired probably had a but crack vodka hazing party on that flying  usaf cock.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:42 | 6004748 cnmcdee
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<-- War by Summer
<-- Peace, prosperity and skittles shitting unicorns by summer and more QE/BTFD/Bullshit...

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:51 | 6004774 McMolotov
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I voted for option #2 because I want to see a bunch of Skittles shitting out unicorns.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 19:48 | 6004965 knukles
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Unicrons shit Skitlles!  Zeeeeshsh!
Do we have to have a "Know Your American Cereal Educaiton Month" or sumptin'?

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:14 | 6005038 Thirtyseven
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Skittles are a cereal now? 

Yeah, please pack that sugar into my morning diet so I can nearly fall asleep at work by 10:00 and feel the "urge" to grab a 160 calorie coke for the caffine.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 02:10 | 6005733 Transformer
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Works for me!!

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 21:11 | 6005218 Parrotile
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Option 2 sounds better (short term at least), though with such developments as this, Option 1 will be more likely.

Can you imagine the US Public's response if Russia dropped a similar number of Paratroopers in e.g. Mexico? And posted images / video on the Web (as the US has)! !

We'd be needing ear defenders in Australia . . . :-)

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 05:29 | 6005841 Main_Sequence
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Regarding the NATO military buildup in Eastern Europe -- you don't put a condom on unless you're going to fuck.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 08:27 | 6005953 HowdyDoody
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Up vote subject to 'never roll out a new product (WWIII) in August' - so September it is.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:19 | 6004670 BaghdadBob
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Fuck the USA. You really are the asshole nation of Planet Earth.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:46 | 6004760 Kaiser Sousa
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crickets...............

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 19:31 | 6004900 nope-1004
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Well if you didn't park your country so close to our bases, there would be no problem, now would there?

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 21:02 | 6005199 kchrisc
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And they took our oil too. Bastards.

The banksters need to repay us.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 22:20 | 6005374 trulz4lulz
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I got something. It will be such an honor to hold a celebration of military training and cooperation on 4/20, the Great Chancellor Hitlers Birthday. How nice.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 02:12 | 6005734 Transformer
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My son is having a party on that day, to celebrate!

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 19:24 | 6004897 Silverhog
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Never in my wildest dreams did I think I would be so taken back by the horrible direction of the US government. I grew up on Cape Cod and met Jack Kennedy when I was 10 years old. Call me stupid, but I was proud then. Now I don't think we can save this plane. Were heading for the Alps. 

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:16 | 6005046 Thirtyseven
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Neocon suicidal nutjobs at the help while Libertarians merely pound vainly on the door while a terrified and uninformed populous watches.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:44 | 6005138 A Nanny Moose
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If you like your current Peace Prize, you can keep it.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:44 | 6005139 A Nanny Moose
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If you like your current Peace Prize, you can keep it.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:44 | 6005140 A Nanny Moose
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If you like your current Peace Prize, you can keep it.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 21:15 | 6005227 Parrotile
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Bearing in mind that it was the co-pilot "who dunnit, Guv!", are you subtly suggesting that Dear Leader may NOT be the one at the controls, so to speak ? ? ? (! !)

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 19:48 | 6004966 IndyPat
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I got nothing.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:00 | 6004993 Yen Cross
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The United States and most of it's inhabitants are wonderful people.

 Some "bad apples" are taking advantage of technology.

   In centuries forlorn, Kings/leaders, had time to adjust for sieges.

   The rapid swath of change(public outcry) outweighs technology, every time.... Technology is double edged.

 

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 21:07 | 6005211 kchrisc
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America is the country of people and the land they inhabit. The US is the criminal nation that is criminally occupying and oppressing the American country and people.

This concept was illustrated recently at the Bundy Ranch, and, regardless of their beliefs, at the Davidian Compound in Waco in 1993. Ruby Ridge is also a high example.

The banksters need to repay us.

 

David Koresh and followers gave the Tree of Liberty a small refreshing.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 22:13 | 6005359 Yen Cross
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 I'm not in the mood. You'ld be one of the first people I'd inquire, after the event.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 23:25 | 6005523 OldPhart
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"Fuck the EU!"  Victoria Nuland

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 05:01 | 6005826 COSMOS
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'Fuck the Goy!!'  Rabbi Ovadia Yosef and the rest of AIPAC

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 21:51 | 6005300 Jumbotron
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When Johnny comes marching home again,

Hurrah! Hurrah!

With PTSD and a grudge,

Hurrah! Hurrah!

Fox News will praise, the townfolks will say

Johnny you're a patriot for the age

And The New York Times will write about

Johnny hanging himself at home

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 22:42 | 6005411 chilli sauce
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Fri, 04/17/2015 - 17:55 | 6004568 ironmace
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the camel needs more straw

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:32 | 6005096 Milestones
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The back is broke already;just doesn't realize it.             Milestones

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 17:56 | 6004576 Mister Delicious
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So - NATO member states missiles dont target Russia and are payloaded with moon pies and penny whistles - is that right?

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:18 | 6004657 jeezusmurphy
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haha!

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 21:09 | 6005215 kchrisc
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Awesome.

The banksters need to repay us.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 17:57 | 6004579 Fun Facts
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Falseflag nuke attack concurrent with JH15 going live

blamed on russia

post New Pearl Harbor continuity of government laws invoked, constitution shredded.

ZWO emerges in all it's glory as your new government

you have no remaining civil rights and are most likely cold and starving

something like that

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 17:59 | 6004584 Urban Redneck
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Major Jose Mendez might want to check on the response time to get to Benghazi before bragging like that... and it's not like a single member of the 173rd would even be left alive 18 hours later if either side fucks up here.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:00 | 6004591 rsnoble
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Just in time for the US market crash.  How convenient!

I'd be very suspicious if Russia and the US go at in Ukraine, the market crashes, and the war never expands to multiple nuke useage or outside of Ukraine borders.

Oh well whatever, stock up on popcorn.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:44 | 6004707 Stumpy4516
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Are you suggesting Putin is playing a "part", maybe a member of the gang?  It's not like Putin forced the EUke's to accept two cease fires just when the EUke's had trapped a large force of WUke's and were prepared to destroy them.  Or is it.

It's not like Russia/Putin abandoned Iraq, Libya, Serbia, Syria just when they needed Russia the most.  It's not like Russia/Putin voted FOR sanctions and UN actions against these countries.  (Abstaining in voting is equal to giving consent for UN action.)  It's not like Russia denied supplies and tactical advice to Iraq, refused to supply missiles to Libya (after allowing the no fly zone) and refused to supply missiles to Syria.  Or is it.

It's not like the "gang" would benefit from Putin playing along to allow the gang to accomplish the final clamp down on the US and flush the last of the bill of rights.  Or is it.

If Putin/Russia is not a member then their actions since Iraq/Serbia have been those of complete incompetence.  Actually, Cuba was the start of Russia's fall.  The gang does not stop until it is stopped.  Sitting back and watching smaller allies being knocked off leaves Russia more alone and with forces and missiles close to their border.  All Russia does is talk while th West shoots bullets and bombs.

China words are those of support for Russia but China's actions are of a country that is wary of Russia.  I suspect the new ultra secret trade deal between the US and Asia is really an attack against China.  And the middle class of the US will be the soldiers who "die" or are sacrificed as expendable while the elite gang profits.  It's not like the trade agreement has been declared a classified national security document that cannot be viewed by US representatives, citizens or media but is viewed and written by a couple hundred lawyers/negotiators of industry and is known by all the foreign countries as they are helping write it.  That would mean the enemy the document is kept classified from is none other than the US citizen.  It's not like that.  Or is it.

I am keeping my antenna's on alert for something to happen by September within the US.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:22 | 6005068 conscious being
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Stumpy, you could be right. Then again, there is Rope-a-Dope. Maybe you are old enough to know what that is?

A couple more points pro and con. You forgot Yemen. The UNSC (Where Russia holds a veto) just approved an arms embargo, which might affect the Houthis, but not SA. Then, the China secret trade deal - are you refering to the TransPacific Partnership? I thought that was embarassingly dead, with Japan the only Asian signee.

Hard to tell what's really going on from where we sit in the cheap seats. You could be right, but I believe ZATO is a scary, wounded and dying beast and time is on the side of Team Russia. As Ukraine keeps crumbling, most of it may choose to wind up as a Russian satilite and the Silk Road can continue to the Atlantic. For now, I think Vlad is playing Rope-a-Dope with ZATO, trying to protect Russian interests and avoid WW3 as ZATO crumbles. Vlad did put a serious hurt on the ZATO 5th column operating within Russia when he came to power. ZATO doesn't seem to sacrifice top team players of the type that Vlad removed. So, in the meantime, I prefer sunflower seeds to popcorn.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 00:14 | 6005602 Stumpy4516
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The TPP is very much alive.  The countries of Asia participating in putting it together include, Singapore, Japan, Malaysia and Vietnam officially.  They may not have completed the signature process just as the US has not completed it's process.  I checked the status of Vietnam and their site indicates they are still a party and did not indicate they had or intended to withdraw.  I did not check each of the others.  There has also been talk that Korea intends to join in.  In the past articles written indicate info such as the following;

"The TPP builds upon discussions held by the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) group and other multilateral forums. Although not officially affiliated with APEC, the agreement is generally viewed as a trailblazer for a Free Trade Area of the Asia-Pacific,"

Information that was leaked also indicates that new countries can be added (and the signees agree to such) without going through a approval process within each country.  In other words, the agreement provides that once signed the citizens of any of the signee countries have no say in who is added.  The intent of this provision, according to those focused on Asia, is to bring in the many countries of Asia and to merge the APEC countries into it.  The countries being included intitially are thought to be less objectionable to the US public.

However, there has also been talk of some interest by China.  Which of course is contrary to this agreement being an attack against China, but a huge boom to Monsato.  I do not know the realiability of the China rumor but it would be interesting. 

 

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 03:55 | 6005779 conscious being
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Stumpy, I don't think you need to worry about the TPP. It was started in 2005, supposed to be wrapped up by 2012 and here we are in 2015 and it is still not settled, even among those who intend to join. The AIIB by comparison was launched in October 2013 and now, all Asian countries are in, many significant non-Asian countries are in and this despite active US opposition.

The TPP is about countering Chinese influence and that's why it is going nowhere. The 3 Anglo countries are in, but no surprise there. Japan is the [faltering] anti-China promoted by Washington. VietNam is in because they have issues with China. Some countries have to play along with the hegemon about giving up parts of their sovereignty until they don't. Many significant Asian countries [Indonesia, Thailand, Korea, India, Russia]are not in because they value their sovereignty too much and are happy doing business as usual with China.

Deadlines keep getting missed. Japan has issues about allowing market access. Other countries don't support US ideas about "intelectual property", environment and labor issues.

I see the TPP as a NeoCon fantasy that becomes less and less likely as the hegemon's influence continues to dissipate.

 

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:49 | 6006285 Stumpy4516
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While there have been delays I strongly disagree that TPP is not something to be worried about.  It has moved forward in a halting but steady fashion and with the number of countries involved that is to be expected.  As is the typicial missed deadline that was used to sell the process in the beginning.

TheTPP is a real and huge threat, even more to the US citizen than to China.  It is guaranteed to cause great damage to the citizen and the sponsors only hope to do real damage to China.

It is not a Neocon thing.  It is an elite thing first, a mega corporation thing second.  The US citizen does not realize how his soverign rights will be destroyed in some ways (much like the EU citizens) through this agreement.  What is most dangerous is the intent of the TPP and how the elite has been able (till now) to cut out the elected representatives (for what they are worth) other than the worthless presidents office.

In my current view the resistence from congress to sign the agreement without seeing it is not due to concerns for the citizens but is due to concerns regarding the ability for the agreement to be expanded and altered without going back to congress.  Memeber want to be able to get a piece of something in the future also when alteations are made, even if it is just lobbist/special interests money.

Although you do not think it will come to be, you are agreeing that if it does, and gets signed by these countries of Asia, that it is an important event that carries much weight.  This I would agree with, I just believe the power of the elites to get it through will prevail and it will be of greater destruction for the US citizen than China. 

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:39 | 6005120 bid the soldier...
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please

China words are those of support for Russia but China's actions are of a country that is wary of Russia.  

FFS stop making shit up to reinforce your worthless, cockamamie delusions.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 02:22 | 6005744 bid the soldier...
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you are basically pathetic

Russia, China to deepen military cooperation — China defense minister According to Chinese Defense Minister, Moscow and Beijing are strategic partners, and the relationship between the states and their armed forces is developing at a high level

MOSCOW, April 16. /TASS/. Good-neighbourly relations between Russia and China contribute to stability in the region and the whole world, the countries intend to further deepen cooperation between their military departments, Defense Minister of China Chang Wanquan told journalists on Thursday at the 4th Moscow International Conference on Security.

According to him, Russia and China are strategic partners, and the relationship between the states and their armed forces is developing at a high level. "This meets the interests of not only our countries, it is also beneficial for peace and stability in the region and the world in general," he said.

http://tass.ru/en/russia/789952


Somebody ought to tell Xi that no less a maven than Stumpy believes that China is 'wary of Russia.'  He'll change China's foreign policy as soon as he gets that word.

They say there's a great new anti-delusion pill.  I'll try to get the name for you.  Meantime try to keep off roof tops and bridges.


Sat, 04/18/2015 - 12:02 | 6006322 Stumpy4516
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China words are those of support for Russia but China's actions are of a country that is wary of Russia. 

China's actions in regards to Russia continue to be well placed to limit exposure and to the economic benefit of China.  In fact China's actions seem all to be economic with China getting the upper hand and gaining influence or the creation for alternate gas supplies. 

Otherwise, just words.  The same can be said for Putin.  Lots of words but Putin relies on more show and bravado.  While China actually moves forward with less photo opps with their shirts off.  Such as creating an airforce base to expand influence and military might.  Putin keeps backing up.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 13:45 | 6006534 bid the soldier...
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Stumpy

You are barking up the wrong tree.  I have long felt (and even more so today), that the public disagreements between China and Russia were all  an act (Sun Tzu - All warfare is based on deception).  

That war between the US and China/Russia began in Korea in the early 50's.

A decade after Korea, the anti-communists in the Pentagon and the CIA pushed America into war in Vietnam.  (A move highlighted by the suspicious assassination of JFK.)

Almost contemporaneously with the buildup of US troops in Vietnam was a gradual build up of Russian troops along the bend in the Amur River on the Russian - Chinese border where a so-called 'border dispute' was alleged to have taken place. It was also the place on the Russian-Chinese border NEAREST TO THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER. For the Sino-Russian Alliance was concerned that if the US had a cakewalk in Vietnam, that they would move their forces back into the Korean Peninsula to settle the score of 10 years ago.  

And 20 Soviet divisions would be less than 500 miles from meeting the US in North Korea.

Compare the buildup of America in Vietnam with Russia's at the Amur. And then compare the 'take down'.  You would have to be a dull historian not to see that the Sino Russian conflict was a complete sham. A pretense that most of the world still believes.

And today you believe that "China is a country wary of Russia." Tell me why you believe that.  Me, who would wager everything I have, that the Sino Russian border conflict was the greatest pretense of the last half of the 20th century.  

Except for the phony peace the West offered the USSR at the end of the Cold War.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:02 | 6004598 Wile-E-Coyote
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Not content at sticking the Russian bear with a sharp stick it is time to stick a razor blade on the tip.........................yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee kiiiiiaaaaeeeeeeeeeee. These cunts will get us all killed!!

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:06 | 6004607 HowdyDoody
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So what are these 'trainers' hoping to achieve? Enabling the Nazis to murder women and children? Too late, they already know that routine. Get their ass handed to them by locals armed with AK47s? Too late, already got that T shirt.

My guess is they are there simply as targets for a false flag to justify agressive kinetic actions already decided on by the US PTB. Just like Iraq where the Brits revealed that 'facts' were being fitted around the policy.

 

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:51 | 6005162 Kirk2NCC1701
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Putin's counter move is simple, if he wants to flag and highlight the US hypocrisy, and neutralize their effect:

"We'll see your 300 advisers, and raise you 700."

"...To be stationed in the DMZ Buffer Zones of the Peace Agreement and in key cities... to advise/consult EUkies against incursions/attacks from WUkies."

Unlike the US shlubs, who have no choice, the Russian Advisors will be all Volunteers and Contractors (recently retired from active duty).

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 21:16 | 6005228 kchrisc
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Actually, Putin should send 300 to Cuba. Another 700 to Venezuela.

Now that I'd pay to tune in to watch.

The banksters need to repay us.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 08:31 | 6005958 HowdyDoody
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Ah the good old days!

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:07 | 6004612 Payne
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Paratroopers by definition are canon fodder.  They will cause more problems in the brothels of Ukraine than provide any real combat support.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:31 | 6004712 Jack Burton
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Oh how right you are! In Kiev two days ago two American soldiers and 2 American contractors were accused of raping a young Kiev woman. It is doubtful any charges will be made, as these guys are there to aid the Junta rulers.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:40 | 6004739 sun tzu
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If true, the locals should dispense justice to those rapists.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:57 | 6004800 ThroxxOfVron
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Maybe the locals should dispatch them and their compatriots just to send the message that no such possible breach of the peace is even going to be hazarded let alone tolerated or punished post facto.

 

"GTFO of our territory before there is any trouble whatsoever due to your incurrence." sounds like a rather rational way to preclude these sorts of problems...

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:34 | 6005104 new game
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if someone rapped my daughter, he would pay a price. just sayin...

and i wouldn't care who the fuck he was.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 21:23 | 6005245 kchrisc
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As a friend of mine says, "They'd write books about my Retribution for centuries to come."

He was referencing to this: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/charges-cop-killed-19-year-old-girl-fle...

But I am sure rape would also quality.

The banksters need to repay us.

 

If more relatives of the gun and badge thugs' treason took up Retribution, there would be many fewer murders of Americans.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:15 | 6005041 Volkodav
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link?

seriously, if you can provide it...

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:31 | 6005093 Harbanger
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Seriously.  I can't find it.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:34 | 6005105 Jack Burton
Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:32 | 6005097 Jack Burton
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I'll be honest, I read it on one Twitter feed from a pro Donbass source, I did not bookmark or follow up. I wish I had, because it would be a very serious story.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:33 | 6005101 Harbanger
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Ah, full of shit again.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:37 | 6005112 Jack Burton
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The story is on LiveLeak and on a google translation of a Russian/Ukrainin article. here. http://goo.gl/tAuo1H

Of course, you did not even try to find it did you? I googled searched and found it in 5 seconds.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:45 | 6005146 Harbanger
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I'm not touching that link.  I'll have to believe your own translation of russian.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 22:11 | 6005170 Volkodav
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I just now told this is main talk of Kiev...but you will not see in Kyiv Post, MSM

lots of hard anger

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 22:09 | 6005351 Volkodav
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go away then....find change of pants and clean yourself

 

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:45 | 6005145 Volkodav
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I will find...just wanted save time

You know, there are many layers in Ukraine...Kiev has dangerous underside

there are very serious good guys also

those did that have a problem

 

 

 

 

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 08:35 | 6005966 HowdyDoody
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Wouldn't be surprised. Good ole boys in Foreign Lands with a Get Out of Jail Free card. The wild ones will whoop it up and get away with it. Okinawa is a fine template for US troops abroad.

 

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:37 | 6004719 Slomotrainwreck
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... best known for its actions during the Vietnam war. The 173rd Airborne Brigade was the first major United States Army ground formation deployed in Vietnam, serving there from 1965 to 1971 and losing almost 1,800 soldiers.

 

Been there, done that, got an easy out. Those guys will never be the same.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 23:19 | 6005135 Latina Lover
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Ditto.   I got away, while better men than me never made it.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:43 | 6005133 Milestones
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I persume you have some sort of military background. What did yoy do and with what unit? See my respone also above.         Milestones    95th Combat Engr, Battn. 

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:10 | 6004624 Kaiser Sousa
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ah young, ignorant, gullible, stupid, and unemployed americans...

always willing to die for their evil overlords....

waste of oxygen.......

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:18 | 6004662 JuliaS
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"If you joined the army to pay for college then you are an idiot and college wasn't going to help you anyway."

- Doug Stanhope

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:42 | 6004749 Kaiser Sousa
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not to worry though...

their top of the line shopping carts and luxury flats underneath  America's decrepit freeway overpasses will be waiting for them as their reward for their patriotism....

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 19:53 | 6004980 RafterManFMJ
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Love the guy; one of my favorite quotes by him.

  • Nationalism does nothing but teach you how to hate people that you never met. And all of a sudden you take pride in accomplishments you had no part in whatsoever, and you brag about — and the Americans'll go "Fuck the French! Fuck the French, if we hadn't had saved their ass in two World Wars, they'd be speakin' German right now!" And you go, "Oh, was that us?" Was that me and you, Tommy, we saved the French? Jesus! I know I blacked out a little bit after that fourth shot of Jägermeister last night, but I don't remember... I know we went through the Wendy's drive-thru to get one of them "Freschetta" sandwiches that looked so alluring on the commercial, but then we ordered it and realized we had no money, and we had to ditch out before the second window, and those douchebags in line behind us with the bass music probably got our order and we laughed about that. But I don't remember savin' the French. At all! I went through the last ten calls on my cell phone and there's nothin' incoming or outgoing to the French, lookin' for muscle on a project! I checked my pants, there's no mud stains on the knees from where we were garroting Krauts in the trenches at Verdun. I think "we" didn't do anything but watch sports bloopers while we got hammered. I think "we" should shut the fuck up!
Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:10 | 6004627 WTFUD
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Poland, plenty balls, no brain cells. Romania , plenty brain cells, no balls.

Like Prince Charles who hasn't enough land in UK and is big in organic dairy in Romania i'm going to create jobs in RomLand and try to educate them of their folly in backing USSofA.Gov@NeoCON.NetenYahoot.

P.S. The toxic Chems polluting Romania should make RusMontana the Canadian gold miners blush. GOLD through the roof this year.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:11 | 6004630 Wile-E-Coyote
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You know all I want is a simple life; live my life, mind my own business; live and let live.............Who are these bastards who want to kill us all?

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:55 | 6004674 SDShack
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They are called sociopaths. They only exist for power and control. In their world, there are only masters and serfs. What you and I want in life doesn't exist in their world. That's why they expect us to conform or die, and why they will do everything to make that happen.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:13 | 6004638 Handful of Dust
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If they'd stop being jealous of our freedom, we'd let them off the hook.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:28 | 6004644 Yen Cross
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  They took an oath, to protect a dying currency... I hope they return intact, and full of knowledge.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:15 | 6004646 q99x2
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Go for the NWO banking families Putin buddy. Do the world a favor.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:17 | 6004655 Son of Captain Nemo
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if you haven't learned how to pray the 'Rosary"...

Now is a good time to get the crash course!!!

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:18 | 6004658 Wile-E-Coyote
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Great we have Mc D  soldiers on the ground at least they will make a bloated target, hard to miss.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:19 | 6004669 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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As soon as GI Joe 'the paratrooper' leaves the plane he has his finger poised near to the trigger? This must be the Hollywood CIA propagandists at work. What possible threat would prompt GI Joe to place his finger in trigger mode?

 

 

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:30 | 6004708 Urban Redneck
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Cut Barney Fife some slack, he needs to feel "empowered" too, even if... the gun is empty.

 

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 19:01 | 6004820 ThroxxOfVron
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...So very similar to the attitude of the camo covered assholes patrolling PABT in NYC.

"WHERE IS THE THREAT?!  WHERE IS THE THREAT?!   WE'RE READY TO RUMBLE!!!"

-While ordinary dumbfucks just try to get from the bus to the Au Bon Pain to the subway to go punch the clock...

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:20 | 6004675 Stu
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Leave.Russia.Alone.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:22 | 6004680 czarangelus
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No amount of "training" could turn the corrupt and conscripted Ukrainian Army into a credible fighting force. More Washington tilting at windmills.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:17 | 6005051 Latina Lover
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Most of the western Ukies like to talk a good line of shit, but run for cover when they receive their draft notices.

Besides, imagine if this American fat fuck was your trainer....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_GT-DSaGJI

 

I'd love to see this sack of shit hump it.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:34 | 6005107 Volkodav
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most of the west ukr pollack that actually fight, get tough by shooting up firstly

everytime they do that and wiped, there is syringes, pharma near

many captured so high immobile, and others dead overdose

 

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:39 | 6005121 Jack Burton
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Draft Dodging is rampant all across Ukraine for the 5th mobilization.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:46 | 6005144 Latina Lover
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Can you blame them? Who wants to die for porkyschenko, ratsenyk and nudelman? Even the names taste offensive.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 20:55 | 6005177 Volkodav
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At Sumy something near 90% did not show up...

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:22 | 6004681 yogibear
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"Cold War 2.0 : Iran urges India, China & Russia to counter NATO missile system"

In the meantime, China manufactures much of the goods used by the US and India has much of the software and new technology ventures.

The White house is going to shut the US down beforehand.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:23 | 6004686 European American
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As an American, I would not be sad to see all 300 chutes fail to deploy.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 18:56 | 6004796 anachronism
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As an American, you should not feel anything but regret for the blood which the 173rd Abn Bde will spill, should it be dropped into the frontlines of a war against Russia. Even though this would be for a bad war against the wrong enemy for the wrong reasons, the emotions should range from pride and respect for their bravery, regret for their sacrifice, and anger at those who wasted their lives in pursuit of our leaders' desires to punish the Russians for merely being who they are: proud of their heritage and defiant as ever of the West.

I don't know what you were thinking when you wrote that you wished that their parachutes would not deploy, the consequence of which would be their certain deaths. I don't want to believe that you meant it.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 19:02 | 6004818 Kaiser Sousa
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"the emotions should range from pride and respect for their bravery, regret for their sacrifice..."

u r seriously trippin.....

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 19:18 | 6004872 negative rates
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That's day trippin.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 19:28 | 6004889 Itchy and Scratchy
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He'd feel the same way about Russian paratroopers if the were stationed on the US-Mexican border I'm sure!

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