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Did Germany Secretly Fund Israel's Nuclear Weapons?
Submitted by Rebecca Miller via The National Interest,
The conservative German daily Die Welt, well-known for its unflinching support for Israel, recently published an article stating “with near certainty” that the Federal Republic of Germany, or West Germany, helped finance Israel’s nuclear program in the 1960s.
According to the Welt report, in 1961 West Germany agreed to loan $500 million to Israel over ten years. Although the official purpose of this funding was said to be the development of the Negev Desert— where Israel’s Dimona nuclear reactor is located— it is widely suspected that the money was actually meant to finance Israel’s nuclear weapons program.
This agreement was reportedly hatched during a 1960 meeting between then-Israeli Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion and German Chancellor Konrad Adenauer at the Waldorf Astoria hotel in New York City. Franz Josef Strauss, a former West German defense minister, previously claimed Ben Gurion and Adenauer discussed Israel’s nuclear weapons program during a meeting in Paris in 1961.
This top secret initiative was reportedly named “Aktion Geschäftsfreund,” which translates as “Operation Business Partner.” It bypassed both the Israeli cabinet and the German parliament, with the money being funneled through Kreditanstalt für Wiederaufbau, a West German-government owned development bank.
The Welt report comes after former Israeli President Shimon Peres (who was the head of Israel’s nuclear-weapons program at the time of its inception in the 1950s) denied that funding for Israel’s nukes came from Germany earlier this month.
The Welt article dismissed this denial, however, arguing that when it comes to German-Israeli cooperation on nuclear weapons, secret-keeping is part of the game. (Indeed, the practice—or art, rather—of secret-keeping with regards to sensitive matters of defense should be expected of any regime, nuclear or otherwise.)
Israel first began constructing a nuclear reactor in the Negev Desert near a town called Dimona in the 1950s. U.S. intel revealed the existence of the Dimona reactor in 1960 (although the U.S. knew of the reactor much sooner, new archival releases show). This prompted a statement by Prime Minister Ben Gurion that the reactor was purely for non-military purposes. Hardly anyone in the international community believed this was its true function.
Peres has stated that $40 million of Israeli government funding was going toward the Dimona reactor, but that this was only half of the amount necessary to complete the project. This prompted questions about where the other half of the money was coming from. Peres’ statement, according to Welt, is the only one that indicated that international donors contributed funds to the program (although it has since been revealed that some private American citizens helped fund the program).
The suspicion that West Germany was involved in financing Dimona first emerged when Ben Gurion made a background comment to an Israeli newspaper that a confrontation with Adenauer’s government would disrupt the development of Israel’s nuclear deterrent, which was integral to Israel’s security and the prevention of future wars.
Still, whatever the West German involvement was in Israel’s nuclear weapons acquisition, it is undeniable that France played the largest role of any foreign power. In 1957, following the Suez Crisis, Peres and representatives from France signed three confidential contracts that allowed France to establish a 24-megawatt heavy-water reactor in Israel, loan it 385 tonnes of natural uranium, work together with Israel on nuclear-weapons research and production and back the building of a processing plant for plutonium extraction. This came a year after Peres asked French defense minister Maurice Bourges-Maunoury: “What would you think if Israel were to establish its own potential for retaliation?”
Norway also provided Israel with 20 tons of heavy water, which was actually delivered by the United Kingdom.
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Oh dear, the ZH vapors!
Isn't it ironic?
Neocons: the Echo of German Fascism | Consortiumnews
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/03/27/neocons-the-echo-of-german-fascism/
Don't you think?
"I first learnt of the proposal to make it a criminal offence to compare either Jews, Israel or Zionism to Nazis or Nazism when reading the house journal of Britain’s Jewish Establishment. Calling Jews 'Nazis' may be criminalised, [Jewish Chronicle, 16.7.09.] . At first I dismissed it as another attempt by the inarticulate to ban arguments they find difficulty dealing with.
Realising however that it was unlikely that April fool jokes were still being practised in July, I contemplated just some of the cases which could have arisen had this law been in existence.
For example when Israel’s High Court, in the Ka’adan case, ruled that Arabs were entitled to buy and rent apartments on the 93% of State and ‘Jewish’ land controlled by the Israeli Lands Authority/Jewish National Fund, Israel’s Parliament, the Knesset, voted to reverse this ruling by a massive majority of 65.
The reaction of Jonathan Artzi, a well known Israeli pacifist and conscientious objector, was to write a letter (23.7.07.) to all 120 MKs offering to help them in their endeavours. He explained that:
‘On May 4th 1939 a law was implemented, forbidding a certain minority in certain country from purchasing and leasing the majority`s lands in that country. Instead of rewriting this law now, why don`t you translate and implement that law?’
When the Rabbi Meir Kahane, was first elected to Israel’s Knesset as the MK for Kach, the distinguished philosopher and historian Emil Fackenheim, himself a refugee from Nazism, compared Kahane’s methods to that of the Nazis during the Weimar Republic. [Sydney Morning Herald 27.8.84.]
Rabbi Meir Kahane had, among other things, called for sexual relations between Arab males and Jewish females to be made a criminal offence punishable by five years imprisonment. Although sexual relations between Arabs and Jews are not criminalised in Israel today, mixed partnerships are extremely rare and subject to overwhelming public and social disapproval. Again it would ironic were a law to be passed to criminalise a holocaust survivor for calling a Jew a Nazi!
- http://azvsas.blogspot.com/2009/07/banning-comparisons-between-nazism-an...
hugs and kisses!
Germany Japan and at least a dozen other coutries are a "screws turn" from having nuclear weapons. Can you blame them? Would you trust Choomboy?
"Did Germany Secretly Fund Israel's Nuclear Weapons?"
Once again, an ill-chosen headline.
It should read...
"Was Germany Coerced Through Extortion and Guilt To Secretly Fund Israel's Nuclear Weapons?"
There... that's more like the truth.
"Was Germany Coerced Through Extortion and Guilt To Secretly Fund Israel's Nuclear Weapons?"
You are wise.
The banksters need to repay us.
Obviously Bumbu Sauce gets paid to refresh ZH and troll the top comments. When's he getting banned?
The real problem with "Bumbu Sauce," and other that disagree with the site, and/or a post, is that they don't take the time or make the effort to edify the rest of us with their views. They just post some nonsense that only indicates their disapproval, and/or biases.
I genuinely like to be challenged by opposing views. I learn so much, and occasionally I learn also that I am wrong. I love it when someone posts something that differs with my views, or the general sentiment on the site. How else is one to challenge and test his own views if someone else doesn't challenge them for him?
So it is too bad that he, and the rest, don't post more detailed refutations, as then things, intellectually speaking, could get to really "stewing and brewing."
But then "feeding the trolls," or responding negatively to an off handed comment of disagreement just puts water to the fire, and benefits no one.
The banksters need to repay us.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3925489,00.html
Not just Germany providing technical help and financing but also Romania providing Uranium and perhaps a location for producing plutonium and testing on miniature warheads deep inside mountains. One must wonder if some of those small earthquakes in the Transylvanian Alps are not test explosions of warheads.
I suspect the Romanians and Germans and Israel are working closely together and that these countries share technology.
Romania has always been weary of Russia and I dont think it trusts NATO to have its back all the time.
I suspect these helicopter flights are not just training but actual security patrols. Israel has mountainous territory of its own.
http://www.balkaneu.com/romania-start-uranium-extraction-project/
'Romania will open a new uranium exploitation site in the east of the country, the Ministry of Economy announced, amid a heated debate concerning another big scale gold mining project which may be put on hold after huge street protests of environmentalists.
The deposit was discovered near Grinties, a village in the Neamt County, in eastern Romania. Another deposit, the one in Crucea, in the Suceava County, north of Grinties, has been exploited for 30 years now and will be closed in 2015 after being exhausted. A third mine, in Baita, Bihor County, in Western Romania, opened in the 50’s by the Soviet Union and which was a major uranium source for Moscow, was closed in 2009.'
Butthurt much?
You freaks pine for an echo chamber I know.
Much the same occurred in obtaining the higher megawatt rated french supplied reactor .. some interesting declassified material on that process.
God's chosen Eastern Europeans have every right to posses the power to destroy the world. EVERY RIGHT DAMNIT!
The real Israeli people never left the place. Most of today's Israelis are converts to that religion, with no ethnic or racial connection to Israel.
Here is a challage for the Israelis. Go get a genetics test and see from where your people arose. With whom does your genetic profile most closely match. Trace maternal and paternal genetic markers. You will find most of you have no connection at all to Israel in the past. I am betting you have the Caucuses and Eastern European genetic profiles and markers.
there's no question about it
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/09/science/ashkenazi-origins-may-be-with-...
The Khazar thing may be over-stated.
Look at Iceland - Gaelic [Irish/Scottish Celts] maternal and Norse/Danish paternal. Faroe Islands are paternal Viking and maternal Scottish {itself a mix of Gaelic, Norse/Dane, and Brythonic and of course now Anglo-Saxon}
You had Jewish males sailing all around the med. and black sea even before the destruction of the temple. The Khazar nobility definitely converted, well-attested, just unclear how many of the peasants did.
In any event, Palestinians are "Arabs" in the sense the Irish are "Celts" - they speak {or spoke} the language spoken by that conquering group, but genetically, the Irish are largely pre-Celtic {and have much in common with the Basque - pre-Indo European racial stock}.
The Palestinians are not 'just' Arab, but an Arabic overlay of the many tides of people who have swept through that area over the centuries.
The idea that Polish and German Jews are entitled to live anywhere they please, but have a genetic birthright to land is absolutely preposterous - the Palestinians are more closely related to the ancient denizens, they of course have been living there by any account for over a thousand years {with, granted, some influx from egypt and syria/iraw much over-stated by the zio revisionists} -
EVEN IF some Jew from brooklyn *were* the direct descendent of ancient Hebrews who left the joint 2,000 years ago....
even if true, which it is not - it still wouldnt justify the zionist claim that Jews may live anywhere they please, but have an exclusive right to land based on 2000 years ago.
The Hebrews/Jews NEVER dwelled in Canaan alone, although they tended to be unable to live in peace with their neighbors, it seems.
There was also never, ever any powerful and large kingdom of David or Solomon.
Actually, the Jews most thrived under Roman civilization and administration.
Probably it wasnt the religious stuff that made them rebel, but having to pay taxes, and having limits put on their usury - something which Jews were famous for doing, the ADL's claims notwithstanding, for centuries before Christ.
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/chosen-people.html
Ukraine is the backup plan if it gets too hot in the ME. It's called Novo Khazaria. Seriously.
Can you say Zionazi?
https://dirtywhitegoy247.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/zionazi_1e.jpg
Around 33 AD, the year Jesus died, there was a big and significant empire-wide financial implosion.
So the story of Jesus expelling the money changers from the Temple could well be a story about a rebellion against the usurers who were running their interest based/fractional money lending operations out of the temple.
I think it's also documented that Roman leadership was very concerned about their gold/coins being drained to the East and they couldn't really figure out what to do about it. Something like that.
Also, there were intertwined financial interests in Rome and Judea. So, it's a plausible assumption that the Temple might have had a significant role in the draining of the Roman gold.
The Temple was built around 530 BC or so after the people of Judah returned from the Babylonian captivity (courtesy of the Persians).
So there's your possible "Babylonian money system" aspect. So who knows what kind of people or what kind of (Jewish) sect was running the temple. Herod the Great, the most famous king of Judea wasn't a "pure Jew" either and "was ashamed of his origins and he attempted to invent Jewish genealogy for himself. [wiki]"
Herod renovated and expanded the Temple. There were big time real estate projects under his rule. (Hmmm, credit expansion?)
The Caesarea Maritima was also built by Herod. The place also known for that the Jewish revolt started there in 66 AD. (Which ultimately led to the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD.)
And of course, in none other way than with an appropriate false-flag for the day, when "Greeks of a certain merchant house sacrificed birds in front of a local synagogue."
Jesus never existed. Xianity was "authored" by Constantine and Friends in the 4thCentury of the (instead of AD and Common Era). There is no Gospel written prior to that.
The AD System was conjured up by a Monk in the 6thCentury; and the retrodating didn't work so well.
You are very certain of your facts when most people don't know much about things 2000 years ago
Shit never happened 2000 years ago.
Constantine & Friends put it together in the 4thCE. Of course it wasn't "known" as the 1st or 4thCE(AD) back then.
The AD System wasn't in place until the 6th Century.
QED
Correct Jack! But they never will...
Been done already asshat:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_of_Jewish_origins
Worst combination ever: US with thousands of nuclear weapons and Israel with hundreds of nuclear weapons. The US governed by neocon influenced folks (despite party affiliations) who unequivocally support Israel and its Zionist government which seeks to control the entire middle east through balkanization of the region. Not to mention the influence of Christian evangelicals who hope to usher in the second coming of Christ through a nuclear Armageddon.
Zionism and support of Zionism is the cause of most of the organized, institutional killing in the world since WWI. Not all Jews are Zionists, although Zionists do everything they can to tie Zionism to Judaism to deceive the world into supporting their murder and destructive behaviors. Others, such as Joe Biden are not Jewish but are Zionists, as are most of the AIPAC-worshipping members of the US congress. This is a perspective about the difference between Zionism and Judaism from a religeous Jew:
http://www.nkusa.org/AboutUs/Zionism/judaism_v_zionism.cfm
JUDAISM VERSUS ZIONISM
Judaism believes in One G-d who revealed the Torah. It affirms Divine Providence and, accordingly, views Jewish exile as a punishment for sin. Redemption may be achieved solely through prayer and penance. Judaism calls upon all Jews to obey the Torah in its entirety including the commandment to be patriotic citizens.
Zionism rejects the Creator, His Revelation and reward and punishment. Among its fruits are the persecution of the Palestinian people and the spiritual and physical endangering of the Jewish people. It encourages treasonous, dual loyalty among unsuspecting Jews throughout the world. At its root Zionism sees reality as barren and desacralized. It is the antithesis of Torah Judaism.
There is a vile lie, which stalks the Jewish people across the globe. It is a lie so heinous, so far from the truth, that it can only gain popularity due to the complicity of powerful forces in the "mainstream" media and educational establishment.
It is a lie which has brought many innocent people untold suffering and if unchecked has the potential to create extraordinary tragedy in the future.
It is the lie that declares that Judaism and Zionism are identical.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
Judaism is the belief in revelation at Sinai. It is the belief that exile is a punishment for Jewish sins.
Zionism has for over a century denied Sinaitic revelation. It believes that Jewish exile can be ended by military aggression.
Zionism has spent the past century strategically dispossessing the Palestinian people. It has ignored their just claims and subjected them to persecution, torture and death.
Torah Jews the world over are shocked and pained at this short-lived dogma of irreligiosity and cruelty. Thousands of Torah scholars and saints have condemned this movement from its inception. They knew that the pre-existing good relationship between Jews and Muslims in the Holy Land was bound to suffer as Zionism advanced.
The so-called "State of Israel" stands rejected on religious grounds by the Torah. Its monstrous insensitivity to the laws of basic decency and fairness appall all men be they Jewish or not.
We of Neturei Karta have been in the forefront of the battle against Zionism for over a century.
Our presence here is to refute the base lie that the evil, which is Zionism, in some way represents the Jewish people.
The reverse is true.
We are saddened day in and day at the terrible toll of death emanating from the Holy Land. Not one of them would have occurred if Zionism had not unleashed its evil energies upon the world.
As Jews we are called upon to live in peace and harmony with all men. We are exhorted to be law abiding and patriotic citizens in all lands.
We condemn the current Zionist atrocities in the Holy Land. We yearn for peace based upon mutual respect. We are convinced that this proposed mutual respect is doomed to fail as long as the Israeli state exists. We welcome its abolition in a peaceful manner.
May we be worthy of true redemption when all men will join in brotherhood in His worship.
Many Jews are not Zionists, and most Zionists are not jewish.
Yeah, I guess therefore the Jews ruling USrael's media, financial system and Congress are so critical torwards Israel...
LOL.
true. ditto for "neocons" - yet we're banned from saying what is plainly true - the neocons are mostly jewish and all zionist.
and Judaism per se is simply not so easily sepaarated from the Zionism that sprang out of it:
http://rediscover911.com/can-we-really-separate-judaism-from-zionism/
none of this has anything to do with some secular ethnic Jewish guy or girl who had grandparents from the old country and who goes to temple on the high holidays.
no one's talking about your dentist raising a family and coaching ball in some suburb.
we're talking about warmongering, racist, evil fucks taking the Torah and Talmud fundamentally, and seriously.
Bullshit.
‘You are a holy people unto the LORD thy God and He has chosen you above all others upon the face of the earth…Therefore when the LORD your God brings you into the land you are to possess and casts out the many peoples living there, you shall slaughter them all and utterly destroy them…You shall make no agreements with them nor show them any mercy. You shall destroy their altars, break down their images, cut down their groves and burn their graven images
with fire…
–Book of Deuteronomy, chapter 14
That's the Torah, not Talmud.
The Torah is replete with passages supporting xenophobia, genocide, hatred of non-Jews, different ethical practices as for Jews and non-Jews, and so on.
I do, really, appreciate what you're trying to accomplish with your distinction. And no, few people, least of all me, believe in any kind of *inherent* badness of any group of people.
We're talking *ideology* - hence a Muslim who takes the violent exhortations of the Koran literally will be an evil fuck...
but so will an orthodox Jew or Jewish ultra-nationalist who believes they have a right to live where they please, but an exclusive right to a certain patch of land based on remote ancestors who never lived there alone, to whom they may not even be closely related, etc etc.
the truth is, inherent to Judaism, apologetics about the metaphysics of "chosen-ness" aside {I've read many - they are horseshit} is supremacism and dual ethical standards.
Doesnt mean most Jews believe it. Most Catholics dont really believe only catholics go to heaven. etc.
But your distinction, while emanating from a good, humanistic place, is simply inaccurate.
The Torah itself contains the seeds of Zionism, and all in all, given how BIG and long and complex the Talmud itself is, ironically, its more unfair to pull out a few racist quotes from some random 5th century guy. The racism and supremacism of the Torah is much more part of the fabric, as are the myths of the exodus, solomons temple, etc.
please read:
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/chosen-people.html
http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/gentile.html
If anything, you should be expending your efforts on dividing people who are merely 'ethnically' Jewish, fundamentalist Jews {karaite or not makes little difference}, and Jewish Ultra-Nationalists {secular Zionists}.
Most people of any people are basically decent, that point is taken, but what you're selling above is not the truth.
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/judaism.htm
Their old trick:
a) Oi veh, we are a people.
b) Oi veh, Judaism is only a religion.
And the Goyim are dumb enough not to recognize even that trick.
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Are the Tylers overwhelmed by the number and variety of internet attacks on their site,
too disinterested to coordinate an effective response,
or just pissing on the floor in their own house?
Talk about free shit army...
Talk about irony...
Oh, paid for by the West. The same West that was divided up by the occupying forces. One of which is still in the country today. I wonder. Was this transfer of wealth voluntary, or forced?
Uai!
You did not know?
Dimona was built with German support, Russian uranium, some pieces of high value added steel in Russian.
The Germans are good at cooling the Russians in kkkkkk merger.
Everything was covered in the construction of nuclear power plants built in Brazil.
Much has been produced in duplicate.
The first nuclear bomb Israel was tested in southern South Atlantic in what is now South Africa black (formerly white and racist, so they understood ...).
hehe.
Any moron with half a brain and that is my age know the story.
Ah, the paternal military insight helped this comment (he died two years, unfortunately).
: - /
Most of you are very innocent about what happened in the past.
hehe.
Headline: 6 Million!!!!
Subtitle: The Cohens and Rothchilds didn't give a fuck as long as their plans came to fruition...
ran the same headline after WWI too.
Newspaper clipping:
Montreal Gazette Dec 29, 1931.
http://www.radioislam.org/islam/english/revision/sixmillion/1931montreal...
It ought to say 6.66 million, to be exact.
some folks down dimona way said never again.
we need dem bomba
to save future anne franks.
12 million some said
12 million gone
just gone
like building 7 dustified
one of the great bbc tv series of the 1970s was called the accent of man.
a brains trust ww2 scientist top math man
prof jacob bronowski all round top geezer lovely bbc production.
a culmination of who we are and the history of are civilisation all rolled up.
epic tv show 13 episodes donte you saturn know.
this jewish man of science bronowski talked auschwitz
grasped the water wet soil looked into camera and said 4 million dead killed in one camp by nazi
1972 ish numbers
numbers been going down ever since 3 million 2 then 1
red cross said 300 thousand.
this jewish man bronowski this bbc talmud tool it turns out worked on nuclear designs.
worked on bombs for bomber harris so dresden could burn and people all over germany could burn in beds attic or cellars.
this man of bbc peace took his admiralty bomb making secrets to the grave not even his family knew he designed weapons.
NOT bombs or missiles for tank battle but to burn people and city Incendiary bomb designer.
keeping secrets until after his death in the 1970s.
we need new historians
we need less jewish historians
we need tel aviv, pope roma,the empire of the city pf london and washington
to pay us compensations
no paper just gold
"
we need new historians
we need less jewish historians
we need tel aviv, pope roma,the empire of the city pf london and washington
to pay us compensations
no paper just gold"
Post of the decade!
Secret documents: US turned blind eye to Israeli nuclear weapons program
https://consortiumnews.com/2014/10/02/how-israel-out-foxed-us-presidents-3/
It's no secret : US turns blind eye to Iranian nuclear weapons program !
If Israel wants to use it on its enemies so do others .
Typical guilt-mongering professional charity-case state.
Or should I say, the only one ever to exist.
The strangest thing about the Israeli not so secret nuke program, is that its deployable, from land, sea, and air..
So it seems the biggest secret has been the development, and testing of the various systems (by Israel) that are operational.... because wouldn't it have violated international laws/treaties to just hand over these systems....secretly?
Interesting how Israel with 200 nuclear weapons is not required to be a member of the NNPT, but Iran with zero nuclear weapons is required to be a member of the NNPT.
It's more than a double standard, it's one nation above all laws.
Becoming a party to treaties is voluntary in principle. Iran signed the non-proliferation treaty, Israel did not.
So your technical legal critique seems rather baseless to me. But there are many other possible considerations, of course.
"Interesting how Israel with 200 nuclear weapons is not required to be a member of the NNPT, but Iran with zero nuclear weapons is required to be a member of the NNPT. It's more than a double standard, it's one nation above all laws."
Good evening. Welcome to the informed suit. You can see most of Zion from here. Enjoy.
The banksters need to repay us.
Farm owners/Zion - Consumers of the sheeple
Farm mangers - Pols and crats, etc.
Sheep herders - Complicit-Media, etc.
Sheep dogs - Gun and badge thugs, etc.
Sheeple - Fleece and meat
NNPT is optional, duh.
Aktion Geschäftsfreund?
Somebody certainly got schafted, notably the German taxpayers, purveyors of the finest bottomless reparations bucket known.
Modern slaves, reparations.
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2010/1004/Germany-finishes-paying-...
Keynes called it right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_reparations
British economist John Maynard Keynes called the treaty aCarthaginian peace that would economically destroy Germany. His arguments had a profound effect on historians, politicians, and the public at large. Despite Keynes' arguments and those by later historians supporting or reinforcing Keynes' views, the consensus of contemporary historians is that reparations were not as intolerable as the Germans or Keynes had suggested and were within Germany's capacity to pay had there been the political will to do so.
Political will=subservience.
Germany has a history of supplying whoever could pay them with whatever they wanted, because it's just business don'cha know......
US occupied since 1945. This is a US action using Germany, quietly, because people didn't worship the chosen ones back then.
Here's a refresher for the kiddos.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg
Yes they did .... and the Germans know the Jews well .... they know they are trustworthy, dependable, loyal, clever, formidable .... it speaks volumes .... when your persecutor seeks you out as a friend .... like Giap said: "America was a enemy with honor (Jane Fonda) !" .... I'm rambling again .... drat !
Shouldn't you be off throwing rocks at Palestinian school girls or something?
Or is that considered "work" for Shabbat purposes?
Eat my dishes .... Candy Man !
When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it.
Shulchan Aruch, Choshen Mishpat 156
http://www.torah.org/advanced/shulchan-aruch/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choshen_Mishpat
*Only if you can breath.
A Basic History of Zionism and its Relation to Judaism
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4549.htm
The Non-Jew in Jewish Law
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-non-jew-in-jewish-law/
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Ceterum censeo: delenda est Iudaea
Removing Israel from American politics
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2015/03/90563removing-israel-from-american-poli...
Let them have nukes, attack whoever they want, believe any self-serving myths they want - just don't ask me to pay for it, or to say that it isn't racism, terrorism, and murder when a 'Jewish state' does it.
Seems fair to me, anyway.
The old story was that the USA allowed a mass of nuclear material to be taken from US stores and taken to Israel. There was also the story around that france had helped with the bomb making and some nuclear material. South Africa allowed development of bomb material and even one nuclear test.
Now Germany is in the game too I guess.
Let's be clear of one thing. Israeli nuclear materials must be very large, as they quickly produced 200 war heads, and nobody knows how many, most people consider 200 the very low end, perhaps 500 is more like it.
Why so many bombs? The entire Arab world can be toast if Israel unleashed 50-75 bombs. What are the other 150 for? Lots of rumor swirls around the Samson Option, or by other names, the Israeli plan to destroy all of Europe from European Russia all the way to Paris and London. That is why Israel needs those 150 extra city killer warheads. One politican has said that "Next time, if we go down, everyone else goes with us."
Why does Europe all kiss Israel's ass? The same reason Europe does not invade and conquer Russia. Because of nuclear wepaons.
Israel is secure for ever, just as long as they maintain between 200-500 warhead with delivery vehicles.
London? Not a chance. Not even the Ashkenazi Zionists in Jerusalem would risk killing off their overlords in London.
Cousins in London.
Overlords.
[Edit: also see this.]
they likely have nukes, or dirty bombs, in various western cities.
They haven't given up on destroying Iran, and with the media and .gov in their pocket, the 15-20% of Americans aware of Israel's past treachery won't really make a difference.
Of course, our own neocons - the Cheneys and Perles and Kagans and Boltons - are allowed to continue to have influence, and to walk around fat and happy - though tens of thousands of corpses haunt their policies.
Ah, but they were brown, and Arab, and Muslim, so for the Zionists, it is merely as if the lawn had been mowed.
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/02/brookings-which-path-to-persia...
Why would Israel need to put "dirty bombs" anywhere? They've got the US Space Command moving full blown hydrogen bombs to cities that senators are claiming Iran is likely to attack.
to blame on someone else.
like the ongoing efforts to pin 9/11 on saudi -
Saudi Arabia’s Alleged Involvement in the 9/11 Attacks. “Red-Herring”, Propaganda Ploy
http://www.globalresearch.ca/saudi-arabias-alleged-involvement-in-the-91...
Takes eyes off Israel, of course, but also the worst traitors - those in the Pentagon/DoD like Cheney and the Joint Chiefs.
so many promotions after such prima facie incompetence, eh?
For the first time .... in the history of our State Department .... we are going to get .... a little bang .... for our bucks !
Yes, thank God. What's your point? Would that many other countries had the luxury of raining well- and long- deserved death upon banksters determined to enslave them---Greece comes to mind. I'm quite okay with this.
You know what too? Only a credible threat to the banksters that they would not escape the consequences of the next Jewish Holocaust managed to persuade the banksters that it was no longer a good idea to use the Jews as scapegoats for the world's problems, and they needed another one that didn't have ready access to weapons of mass destruction.
Fortunately for the banksters, working-class males of European extraction rarely have access to nukes. You want someone to blame for the "angry" white male being the punching-bag of the civilized world, blame the banksters, not the Israelis.
"Lots of rumor swirls around the Samson Option"
What makes you lend credence to these rumors ?
Well now the Russians know that Israel is storing nuclear weapons for Germany. Smart move on their part, build them for us, store tham for us, and when Russia gets itchy, load those nukes on those Dolphin subs Germans are building for Israel and load them on and transfer them over to the German dolphin Subs.
Brilliant. Germans are always the most strategic, they just pick the wrong leaders all the time.
Maybe that is why Netanyahu does not fear big, bad, Obama.
There are already nukes in many places in Europe : Belgium, Italy, Germany ( in addition to France and UK ) What are those for according to you ?
Are you sure you aren 't inflating Israel 's nuclear role in Europe ?
Bizarre and bonkers
The New World Order at work, knowing that the Israeli government, then filled with judenrat members, would do anything for a price. In the 1960s, Israel arranged for the the theft of 200 pounds of processed uranium from a Pennsylvania company, Nuclear Materials & Equipment Corp. (NUMEC). The NUMEC weapons grade uranium, shipped to it from a federal plant in Ohio, contained the highest percentage of U235 ever to have been produced. NUMEC itself is long gone, its Apollo plant now a 44 acres 500 million dollar Superfund site, the worst radioactively contaminated Superfund site in the USA. According to Senator Scoop Jackson, in a slip of the tongue, to make an A-bomb you need one kilo of U235. The crypto-Nazis who run Israel would have no problem planting an atomic bomb somewhere, as long as the price was right. After all, Mossad agents in Hoboken, in public, danced with joy as they watched the World Trade Center burn.
Very important post. It is full of fact, but the American people and media want to hide form these ugly facts. Israel is portrayed by American media as one big nation of beautiful, peaceful, wonderful people, all the best of the best, chosen by god. Now American Christian Zionists are taught to love Israel above their own people. I remember going to church and hearing hour after hour of wonderful stories of Israel. I got sick of it and left the church, never to go back. I was 15 years old. America is the home base of Christian Zionism, it is why we put Israel first, and Americans last. We are basically serving our betters, our superiors.
The fools in the US think they're using Israel to bring about the end of the world and the return of Christ.
I have no doubt that one day they'll achieve their aims, but they're going to be on the wrong side Judgement Day when they do.
"I was with those fools .... when they marched into Berlin in 1918 !" Casa Blanca, Humphrey Bogart
Another shitty ZH troll.
Unfortunately the irony of McShitstain running his mouth about 12th Imam Nutters in Iran with John Hagee's cum running down his face like dementia drool is lost on most Americans.
Amen Brother! As a former Southern Baptist, you took the words right out of my mouth. The MSM has essentially hijacked US Christian thinking. My grandparents, having grown up before TeeVee, had enough sense to see through the lies.
The non-denominational/Evangelical nutters are doing just fine hijacking Christianity without the MSM's help.
http://www.amazon.com/Jerusalem-Countdown-Revised-John-Hagee/dp/15997908...
http://www.mintpressnews.com/fbi-documents-show-israeli-pm-worked-in-nuc...
http://original.antiwar.com/smith-grant/2012/07/03/netanyahu-worked-insi...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/israeli-prime-minister-netanyahu-linked-to-...
On 9-11 i did not dance with joy but got out of bed sooner than i would have because the TV was too loud. Once i saw what was going on i thought "well, two years late but it finally happened LOL". I remember being dissapointed when 1999 went by without any major incident.
benjamin123
did you get out of bed cos you got the 911 odigo kosher pager bleep
Bet Europe's banksters are kicking themselves now, if this is true, though I confess it permits a new perspective on the reparations debate. I dare say the long-run value of the Samson Option to Israel and the Jewish people is impossible to calculate in dollars.
Now if only Germany had made a similar deal with the Greeks by way of making amends.
Are we going to get to see nukes or not damn it.
In related news Saudis funded Pakistans bomb and the Rosenbergs handed over the hydrogen bomb... I am bout done with ZH, ABC killing the golden goose for clicks...
Don't leave me alone .... with these Marxist idiots .... play rope-a-dope .... ABC will leave you alone .... if they think you are a poor spokesman for the American Way !
Imho West-Germany was not really a sovereign state then...
Germans, German Jews, Muricans, English .... it's Teutonic thing .... butt out, Marxists dreamers !
Good.
WAFM (Wait A Fuck-ng Minute) .... we invented the damn bomb .... we can give it to whomever we want .... na na naw na naw na .... fuck-ng Marxist trolls !
Both Germany and America are occupied. Part of JFK's problem was arguing with Ben-Gurion aka David Green over Dimona
Speaking of weapons, Mr. Delicious .... I'm inventing a rock thrower .... a converted baseball pitching machine .... that throws 60 jagged, shit stained rocks a minute .... they leave nasty gashes .... and are hard to scrape up and throw back .... I'll return to post excellence in an hour or so ! Cheers to your dreary Marxist existence ! LOL
The NPT isn't worth the paper it is written on, except as an excuse for empires to go to war and feed their MICs.
The US, UK, France, Germany, Norway... If the BRICS and the rest of the civilized world had any scruples, they would simply withdraw from the treaty en-masse.
Noam Chomsky's interview with Euronews: "Chomsky says US is world’s biggest terrorist"
http://www.euronews.com/2015/04/17/chomsky-says-us-is-world-s-biggest-te...
Noam Chomsky: “There are two states that rampage in the middle east carrying out aggressions, violence, terrorist acts, illegal acts, constantly. They’re both huge nuclear weapon states and their nuclear armorments. And their nuclear weapons are not being considered.”
Euronews: “And who exactly are you referring to?”
Noam Chomsky: “The United States and Israel. The two major nuclear states in the world. I mean there’s a reason why, in international polls, run by US polling agencies, the United States is regarded as the greatest threat to world peace by an overwhelming margin. No other country is even close. It’s kind of interesting that the US media refused to publish this. But it doesn’t go away.”
[...] “Iran has very low military expenditures, even by the standards of the region, let alone the United States. Iran’s strategic doctrine is defensive, it’s designed to hold off an attack long enough for diplomacy to start, and the United States and Israel, the two rogue states, do not want to tolerate a deterrent. No strategic analyst with a brain function thinks that Iran would ever use a nuclear weapon.”
[...] “Remember the worst terrorist campaign in the world by far is the one that’s being orchestrated in Washington. That’s the global assassination campaign. There’s never been a terrorist campaign of that scale.”
Obama is going to ensure that Iran gets and has the ability to use a nuke weapon.
And who is the only nation to use one bumbu you fucking idiot?
Are you taking the piss son? Has your head escaped your fucking arse?
Stupid, outright fucking stupid. Who the fuck would use a nuke and expect one back you clown? Think it through son.
The comentariat on this site is seriously fucking slipping if this the best these wankers can come up with.
;-)
That kind of flattery will not get you a second date. :)
But you are not going to get any baby's dick, Kike.
Look at it this way, if Pakistan and Israel can have a nuclear arsenal, then clearly national trustworthiness and madcap medieval religion states are not an issue of concern, so anyone can have a nuclear arsenal.
Obama’s long & passionate Monday with Saban, Foxman, Hoenlein and other Jewish leaders demonstrates power of Israel lobby
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/04/passionate-hoenlein-demonstrates
- nigga, please.
The glue that holds Neocons together is the Zionist colonial project in Palestine. Their common denominator is an unshakable demand for U.S. support of Israel. It is as if the Neocons consider Palestine to be a 19th-century U.S. colony.Every U.S. politician, especially the President of the United States, has been so intimidated by the neocon Israeli lobby that they think they must kowtow to Israel's every demand.
and how.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html
Why does the US and the Zionists care so much about this colonial project on tiny piece of property with no real resources? What really is the big deal about the place that the whole world wrapped up in this nonsense.
The answer is simple:
USA is dominated by christians, and according to christian mythology, the 2nd coming of their mythical deity savior requires as a prerequisite the re-creation of the biblical nation "israel" [refer to the Book of Jacob and the End of Time Prophecy].
So the christians want to expedite the end of the world thru armageddon so they can enjoy their eagerly-and- long-awaited reunion.
That's only one aspect. Consider that Israel was from the beginning a Rothschild project. With direct power over a recognized state, it gives that banking entity all of the trappings that go with: treaatis, diplomatic corps, etc. For example: direct NSA feeds to Tel Aviv. This give direct access to pretty much all mil, commercial, intel product to one location for processing.
Lots of debate about Isreals creation as opponents thought it would give Jews too much attention, better to remain in the shadows of power. We shall see, soon.
General Clark reveals that Daesh [ISIS/ISIL] is an Israeli project:
http://www.voltairenet.org/article186827.html
And why defeat Hezbollah - almost entirely a *defensive* force probably falsely blamed for a few attacks actually done by Israel?
Because Zionistan wants Lebanon - it has for a long time.
http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.com/2010/08/israel-wants-litani-rive...
http://www.wrmea.org/2006-september-october/for-israel-southern-lebanon-...
http://www.tomatobubble.com/id775.html
It will take a while before IDF gathers enough courage to try and conquest Lebanon again. LOL
Nasrallah is Bibi's worst nightmare.
I think israel stole nukes from the Numec facility in PA around that sane time. Since then, they bombed USS Liberty, got caught red handed in the Lavon Affair, and under every stone looking for the real perpetrators of 9/11 is an israeli interest. Read the work of Christopher Bollyn.
search out david cam moron working for margaret thatcher
armscor south african missing nukes kelly and cam
4 ended up in israel maybe for false flag use
we could ask camoron but he and his wife are jewish.
dr david kelly is suicided no nailgun but by nail trim pocket knife
david camorons rabbi
nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRjX9xbswW4
There's also talk about an Israeli-Turkish network involved in dealings with US nuclear weapons secrets. Which were supposedly leaked by Marc Isaiah Grossman (currently vice chairman of The Cohen Group). Who has been also linked to Turkish Gladio operatives/operations (former ambassador to Turkey). Who/which have been linked to Chicago. Turkish influence in Chicago has been linked to fundraising for Rahm Emanuel. Who has been linked to the Mossad.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2008/jan/22/usjournalistsign...
http://web.archive.org/web/20080109045435/http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t...
Comment 5904970
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-18/presidents-prime-ministers-cong...
in nov 2001 fox news reported that 60 israeli spies where arrested in newyork and 120 in the rest of the states.
these israeli spies where trained in explosive ordinance ,military intel,electronic surveilance intercept were arrested in connection with the 911 event.
the report was hushed up the israelites sent home in secret
dancing all the way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QErILI5uRi4
Is America cursed because of Israel?
'Modern-day Zionist Israel is NOT the Israel of the Bible because it is comprised of converted Jews and not of Hebrews with whom God had the Old Contract.
It was founded in 1948 on stolen Palestinian land by Ashkenazi Zionists.
They forged Modern-day Israel by means of terrorist groups such as the Irgun. They terrorized the Palestinian population, killed thousands upon thousands, and forced hundreds of thousands out of their homes and into neighboring Arab countries. Said dispossession is known as the Nakba.
Subsequently, these non-Semitic non-Hebraic non-Israelite Ashkenazi Zionist Jews renamed the land Israel in order to hoodwink gullible Christians in the West.
Through deceit and bribery Israel’s devilish minions exercise a malevolent, pernicious, and insidious influence on the Church and on the US Government in order to keep Israel’s faulty foundation from crumbling.
“That stranglehold has got to be broken or this country is going down the drain,” explained Evangelist Billy Graham to President Nixon.
Unfortunately a lot of misinformed Christians have been led to believe by crafty Zionists that if they bless Israel, God will bless them because of this biblical passage:
“The Lord said to Abram… I will make you a great nation, And I will bless you, And make your name great; And so you shall be a blessing; And I will bless those who bless you, And the one who curses you I will curse. And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed.” Genesis 12:2-3 (emphasis added)
That verse is clearly directed at Abram himself to whom God was talking and not at anyone else. In addition, the nation God was describing was the nation that would spawn out of Christ, Abraham’s seed. A Christian nation that would include all the families of the earth. A Nation that would span the globe.
“And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed…” Genesis 26: 4
That nation could hardly be the racist state of Israel which can’t even coexist with its Palestinian neighbors let alone all the families of the earth. Talk about Chutzpah!
Furthermore, if one wants to bless Christians, great! A reward awaits you. But if blood-thirsty Israelis are going to kill Christians in Gaza, beware. A different kind of reward also awaits.'
.... continues -
https://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2014/07/17/is-america-cursed/
https://ia801601.us.archive.org/23/items/MastersOfDeception/MastersOfDec...
I am sure that Israel has nukes, not sure what kind of delivery vehicle diversity (eg cruise missile, rockets, bombs, etc), what explosive size, and how many. I cannot find any record of Israel having tested nukes, but I know with certainty that testing is absolutely essential to development of reliable nukes, so I am assuming that israel got their nukes fully developed, tested, and weaponized vs homemade, the way tha the Pakistanis and Indians got their nukes.
This site is frequented by vigilant rabid anti jew/zionist/israeli fanatics, so I am asking all of you if there is any public record of the following:
1. Israel having tested any nukes
2. Israel having threatened to use nukes on any of its numerous enemies
I don't keep up with this topic the way that you fanatics do, so I am just asking those who may be better informed. I don't have a dog in this fight, so I don't care if the Israelis do have nukes or not, just interested in knowing more.
You will care one day, possibly sooner rather than later. Why would Israel use their own nukes to test when they can take everything else from the western nations they control? They don't spend their own dime!
As I stated, I am sure that the Israelis acquired ready-to-use nukes, stolen or bought or both, so testing was not required. They probably acquired the nukes from multiple sources.
But my web searches reveal that the Israelis have never threatened to use them on anyone, at least not publicly, unlike the North Koreans, Russians and Iranians. And the Israelis would never threaten the USA because the USA is their Golden Goose, thanks to the HUGE population of christian zionists in the USA, who are far more fanatical zionists than the jewish zionists.
The US threatened use of nuclear weapons throughout the 1950s - during the Berlin Blockade 1948 they moved B29s to UK and threatened Stalin. They threatened to use them in Korea, and in Vietnam Le Duc Tho told them to go ahead.
The US threatened use of nuclear war regularly
Google "Samson Option."
It has been publicly known for a long time that Israel readied its nuclear arsenal for use during the 1973 war, after being denied military assistance by the US and European governments who, frankly, had already decided the Jewish reservation in the Middle East had become far more trouble than it was worth, and seeing it wiped off the map would be a small price to pay for cheaper oil.
Once it became clear that many of those nukes were pointed at the financial capitals of the Gentile world DC changed its tune right quick.
That was a very interesting link that lead to a lot of useful info, thank you.
NO, I am sure that the Israelis never threatened the USA or any European country with nukes, they are far too clever for such a stupid move, and they don't need to because the Israelis can always rely upon the support of the HUGE population of christian zionists in the USA, who are far more fanatical zionists than the jewish zionists.
My recollection is that Nixon gave the USSR the OK to give the Arabs the bomb, and made sure the Israelis knew.
When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it.
Shulchan Aruch, Choshen Mishpat 156
What the fuck is wrong with the Goyim that they don't hang every one of these fuckers?
Well, whoever funded Israels nukes, it's a damn good thing that they have them. They are surrounded by whackjob savages who want to kill them.
It's not important whether Germany financed or not. We all need protection from jihadi's, including Israel. If Moslems disarmed, there'd be peace. IF Israel disarmed, ther'd be genocide.
That sounds so Third Reich, in fact Hitler wanted all states bordering Germany demilitarised if you read Mein Kampf......trouble is his Reich borders kept moving
MAD .... Muslims Are Dead .... if they keep fuck-ng with Israel !
you misunderstand germany did not support israel
germany lost the war period
germany subscribed after war a contract period
germany is ruled by cia period
cia is ruled by who? :)
guess you are smart enough to understand germany is not one person and do not decision on its own even as an (artificial)leader of eu
Israel gets free Doplhin submarines from Germany. Just why a sovereign state that did not exist when the Nazi State existed should receive annuities is not clear.......no doubt China is getting compensation from the Dutch for all the opium addicts created in 1700 by their introduction of pipe smoking; or maybe HSBC pays compensation for being a drug dealer bank?
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