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This Technical Signaled The Last Two Market Crashes And It Just Happened

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Submitted by Thad Beversdorf via FirstRebuttal.com,

So the fundamental case for a 20 year bull run as BMO is calling for and  certainly many other banks seem to be onboard with that is not looking great YTD.  In fact, most perma bulls have shy’d away from even mentioning fundamentals other than to say that generally they aren’t looking great but don’t worry the Fed is still engaged.   And so I feel its a worthwhile exercise to have a look at the technicals.  Thing about the technicals is that you can cherry pick any baseline point to really make any case, good or bad.  But if we take a look at a time period that encompasses several cycles we negate our ability to cherry pick the baseline and we can be much more confident in our overall analysis.

So what I’ve done is taken a two decade period of S&P pricing which encompasses several cycles.  Mid 1990′s was a market mid cycle having recovered from the short recession of the early 1990′s but before things really began heating up in the late 1990′s.  If we just have a gentle look at the chart we see we’ve had a couple large cycles with fairly extreme booms and subsequent busts.  Currently we are in the midst of the third boom which has taken us to new all time highs.  Now even a 5 year old can look at the chart and say at some point this thing has a large down turn, same as it always does.  That’s easy to see and not many will argue it.  But as so many bulls remind us we could have said the same thing about this chart a year ago and we’d have missed out on significant returns.  Very true.  So the key is then figuring out where the down turn begins.  I know I know that’s the kind of stuff you have to go to biz school for eh.  Ok so let’s first have a look at the easy chart.

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So pretty simple.  Two full cycles and into the third which doesn’t tell us much.  Let’s add some markers to see if we can’t pick up on some technical cues.

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So what we’ve done is run a 2.5 standard deviation Bollinger Band (BB) using a 100 period moving average looking at monthly returns because we are interested long cycle technical cues.  We’ve also run Relative Strength Indicator (RSI) using 20 periods.  What we find is actually quite notable.  During the tech bubble cycle we saw the S&P rise to the upper BB where it tracked the upper band for some time.   During that same period we saw the RSI move above 70.  Now as the market peaked we saw the S&P move below the upper BB and we also saw a decline in RSI.  What is very interesting is that the point where RSI dropped below 70 is the point the tech bubble burst and sent S&P into a free fall.  The market continued to sell until the RSI dropped below 30 at which point the market stabilized and reversed higher.

This took us into the start of the credit bubble cycle.  Here the RSI move up very quickly and plateaued just below 70 for several years during which time the S&P moved up but never quite made it to the upper BB.  Then in 2007 the RSI moved above 70 but then quickly reversed back down below the upper band.  Interestingly again the RSI dropping below the upper band seemed to trigger the bursting of the credit bubble as we saw S&P again move into free fall.  Then here too we saw the market stabilize as the RSI moved through the bottom band.

And again this brought us into the latest Fed bubble.  Now during this latest cycle the RSI moved up but bounced off the upper band a few times without actually breaking through 70.  At the same time the S&P moved higher but with quite heavy volatility.  Eventually we saw the RSI move up and break through the upper limit.  It was about the same time that the S&P traded higher to the upper BB where it tracked for some time.  However, at the end of November 2014 the S&P started to dislocate and moving down below the upper BB.  And then ominously January of this year we saw the RSI also move below the upper RSI band.

Remember this technical signaled the popping of the past two bubble cycles.  Now February saw the RSI move back above the upper band but March moved back down below.  I would watch this very carefully now.  I would venture to say if April remains below the upper RSI band we could very well have moved into the latest and perhaps greatest period of wealth destruction. It is time to protect those assets.

 

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Sat, 04/18/2015 - 10:56 | 6006166 -.-
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Pearls before Swines

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:09 | 6006193 Truther
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Could that down slope be a bit watery or wet please? I would hate to see your ass get burnt sliding down.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:18 | 6006219 So Close
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Twas the crashes before QE to infinity, ZIRP, and, "Whatever it takes."  The rules have changed.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:29 | 6006242 Stroke
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technical analasis .......witchcraft....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:49 | 6006276 flacon
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The problem isn't technical analysis, the problem is central planning. Period. Where to find the balance? - look at the central planners and trade accordingly. So far they seem willing to let the markets slide a bit before stepping in AGAIN. And it may be PLANNED that way, to give the excuse for the next round of monetary destruction (QE).

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 12:22 | 6006350 hannah
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The problem isn't technical analysis, the problem is.....technical analysis works when there are millions of participants. doesnt work when 5 banks manipulate the market. i love TA but when 5 banks run the world i dont put much trust in stats and numbers.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 12:24 | 6006355 TooBearish
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Really nice color choice on the chart- really surprised anyone looks at this stuff seriously anymore...BTFD

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 15:09 | 6006455 Manthong
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Baseline my butt…

I like the proposition and analysis, but

As we ponder over the goat entrails.. we might be missing some  basic premise…

Like maybe.. SOMEBODY KILLED THE F’N GOAT.

 

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 23:51 | 6007770 Fish Gone Bad
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... wait a minute.  When did you get a goat?

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 08:37 | 6008115 Headbanger
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So like, what's with all you English Major types here then?

And "Ram" is a truck you mook!

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 10:52 | 6008332 Thirst Mutilator
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The last 2 times these graphic illustrations were published, 'THE LAWNMOWER MAN' was playing in theatres!

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 11:19 | 6008399 I M DeMan
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Pearl River with Floating Swines...the latest Asian Fusion combo dinner!

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 11:51 | 6008471 Haus-Targaryen
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I just sold my weekend car, and proceeds go into stacking.  

Seems like the timing is right.  

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 20:38 | 6007459 LooseLee
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The age-old adage, "There is a SUCKER born every minute seems appropriate here in regards to your nigtard comment. Good luck nigtard...

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 12:30 | 6006362 Beatscape
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Exactly.  TA is essentially a mass psychological or crowd behavioral predictor of market action, which is based on the reaction of a critical mass of participants. But today, we have HFTs and Central banks driving market action, driving their agendas, not reacting to market action. 

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 08:49 | 6008128 Headbanger
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Your statement is illogical.

HFT algorithms were developed by humans who are psychological beings.

Central banks are operated by humans who are psychological beings.

Psychological beings participating in the market react irrationally to market action.

Market action is thus the result of irrationality.

Irrationality is thus the result of market action.

This irrationally based feed back control loop creates in massive instability

Massive instability results in catastrophic failure

Meaning we are completely fucked!

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 09:08 | 6008158 aint no fortuna...
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Of course there is that saying "It's always different this time... until it isn't."

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 12:41 | 6008591 raywolf
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they were blaming HFT algos for the crash in 1987 ... nothing ever changes....

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 20:51 | 6007496 theeseer
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Right on the mark thats why I like VIRT the new HFT IPO if you can't "licem" "joinem"

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 01:24 | 6007862 JoWazzoo
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ETSY upstaged VIRT on first day trading.  Would not one think that VIRT would be a 5 bagger if ETSY could be a 2 bagger?  I mean - we all know and love HFT/Algos.

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 02:04 | 6007894 Kirk2NCC1701
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"i love TA but when 5 banks run the world i don't put much trust in stats and numbers."

Back in the Iron Curtain days, their Central Planners also manipulated their markets, cooked the books, owned the Media and spied on their people.  We know know how that ended, don't we?

The difference between the People there and 'Mericans, is that their people didn't delude themselves, and knew what was going on, and created a Parallel Economy (barter, black market) to improve their survivability.  'Mericans are as clueless as ever.  No wonder they keep taking it up the rear end -- figuratively, politically and economically speaking.

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 11:05 | 6008371 HungryPorkChop
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Open Disclosure: I'm long on ink, security paper and industrial printing presses.

Technical Analysis: As long as the banks can print moar' money its stawks to da' moon.

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 12:18 | 6008530 Fun Facts
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One problem with technical analysis in today's environment is that it fails to predict in advance when the central banks are going to press the buy button, which is the only thing that's been propping up this lipsticked pig since 2008.

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 11:27 | 6008413 GMadScientist
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"The problem isn't technical analysis,..."

The problem is collecting one's potential proceeds in nominal confetti so debased as to be useless for wiping one's ass.


Sun, 04/19/2015 - 11:39 | 6008441 Omen IV
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with CB's supporting indexes in mulitple market they can create the technical signals they want - and delude and put to sleep those that follow technicals

 

the system is broken for signals of all kinds especially economic metrics

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 18:24 | 6009385 Laowei Gweilo
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technical analysis also assumes the market remains fundamentally the same in terms of its variables

 

using any sort of trend from a pre-QE market to predict a QE market throws that out the window

 

using data from 30 or 40 years ago is hilarious.. the market has alsmost changed more in the last 5 years than the previous 50 combined

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:49 | 6006284 Diet Coke and F...
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Don't worry, just change the methodology...

 

http://www.joshuakennon.com/sp-500s-dirty-little-secret/

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 12:01 | 6006318 Bananamerican
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yeah, there you go again Thad...using charts an' shit.....

Janet's GOT this, baby...

This time...IS different™

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 11:03 | 6008362 Bendromeda Strain
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2015.75 - When Martin Armstrong's ECM (the basis for Aranofsky's Pi?) lines up with the end of the Shemitah, you gotta figure something's up. If nothing else, "superstitious" Jews will hit the exits - but I don't believe there will be nothing else.

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 12:22 | 6008526 Tall Tom
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And just who else, but the "superstitious Jews", controls large investments in the Ponzi Stawk Market?

 

If they want their crash to validate the Shemitah then they will have it. It will be a SELF FULFILLING PROPHECY.

 

You'd be wise to front run that....which will also help fulfill the prophecy.

 

Or you can lose massively also because you are "rational" and not buy into superstition.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:29 | 6006199 Pool Shark
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Ummm,

In mid-1999, the market also pulled away from the upper BB while the RSI dropped below 70.

Then, the market proceeded to make new highs for an entire year before the crash.

 

It seems to me the timing of Thad's 'Technical Indicator' is a bit suspect...

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:59 | 6006316 Keltner Channel Surf
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Exactly, according to Michael Harris’ great work on his Price Action Lab blog, RSI is simply correlated to daily price changes and offers no useful predictive information regarding “overbought” signals beyond 1-2 days forward.

For those who like to dig into the weeds, here’s a link to  the recent “Correlation of Relative Strength Index With Price Changes”

http://www.priceactionlab.com/Blog/2015/04/relative-strength-index-corre...

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 22:02 | 6009919 neidermeyer
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Timing is of utmost importance... however you don't need to be a hero and be short on day#1 ,,, you can wait for it to become a solid trend first. Stay liquid and be patient.

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 04:55 | 6007966 chilli sauce
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I freelance over th? internet and earn about 80-85$ an hour. I was without a job for 7 months but last month my paycheck with big fat bonus was $15000 just working on my computer from my home for 5-6 hours. Here's what i have been doing... www.globe-report.com

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 15:46 | 6008992 WakeUpPeeeeeople
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Sir chilli sauce

 

BLOW ME  (sans chili peppers)

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 08:05 | 6008094 ZH Snob
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I work with a permabull.  thinks he's clever by buying energy at the bottom.  and in a normal normal that would be a great pick, but in our new normal you better have that energy in some kind of storage facility (kidding). also thinks he'll retire in a year from his outstanding market analysis.

these guys just don't get it.  things have changed.

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 10:43 | 6008321 Burt Gummer
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A US recession would cause EURO short covering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4wcC2szApI

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 15:59 | 6009049 the great rift
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I'm making over $7k a month working part time. I kept hearing other people tell me how much money they can make online so I decided to look into it. Well, it was all true and has totally changed my life. This is what I do... www.globe-report.com

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:04 | 6006180 Crabshacker
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Here,...let me give it a shot.

(Climbs to roof top)

This time its different!!

Because you know it is!

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:18 | 6006218 TheReplacement
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Technically speaking, worse IS different.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:07 | 6006185 HonkyShogun
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It'd be worth paying attention to if there was actually a market.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 12:03 | 6006323 booboo
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The PPT has been around since Reagan, it didn't help Pets.com did it? These phoney market moves are scripted to violently shake the apple tree or put another way, big boys playing "fire sale", consolidation is all they have left since the consumer has tapped out. I mean you can't just raid a pension fund with two guy's a van and a revolver. Look, the same people that say that the Fed has the markets back are the same people that will tell you the banking cabal (The Fed) don't give a rats ass about the masses, you only get to choose one or the other.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 13:10 | 6006432 Beam Me Up Scotty
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"Look, the same people that say that the Fed has the markets back are the same people that will tell you the banking cabal (The Fed) don't give a rats ass about the masses, you only get to choose one or the other."

They don't give a rats ass, but they look a whole lot better if the stawk market is going UP not down.  They won't face the pitchforks if the market is going up.  You think the idiot on the street bitching about the high cost of food and fuel is shaking his fist at the Fed and its policies?  No.  He's blaming the merchant or the farmer---the gougers of society.  He will call his legislator and the legislator will vote for price controls on the merchant before he ever dreams of doing anything to stop the Fed.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 13:31 | 6006505 booboo
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Name the last time the pitchforks came out with a crash....uh huh, never. All you hear is mid level lackeys moaning years later about how their execs made out alright and they got fucked as they unbox another crate of Creamed Corn in their stock boy job.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 15:47 | 6006835 farmboy
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The storming of the Bastille :)

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 12:27 | 6008560 Tall Tom
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Add in a California drought with a resultant famine and I think that the elements are in place...

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 20:43 | 6007476 LooseLee
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Actually, the people that say that the Fed has the markets back are PINKO FASCIST COMMIES who are traitors to the once great America! Off with THEIR heads!

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 02:15 | 6007903 Kirk2NCC1701
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For the 5th time... I humbly suggest that... just about the only Bellwether you need to pay attention to is...

(a) Global Yields, and (b) the FED'S YIELD.  Especially the latter. 

When it approaches zero, watch out!  Head for the life rafts -- in spite of the band on the ship's deck, playing comfort songs for the doomed masses.  Note that the calm allows the Elite to escape unimpeded, before the rest get sucked down by the ship.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:08 | 6006190 FoolsAdvice
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Curve fitting comes to mind...

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:08 | 6006191 red1chief
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Still too much money being printed, especially Europe and Japan for a major decline.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 14:48 | 6006337 booboo
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You can't fill the hole in the side of the Titanic with a wad of chewing gum. This exercise in coordinated printing is designed to be a turtle race to the end until the board gets inverted.

“How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked.

“Two ways,” Mike said. “Gradually and then suddenly.”

 Ernest Hemingway The Sun Also Rises.

And don't give me this"central banks can't go bankrupt" bull shit, running out of trust is the same thing as running out of money. Argentines central bank literally ran out of paper in the 70's

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:08 | 6006192 Thirtyseven
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Technicals are meaningful?

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 21:05 | 6007437 Robinhood
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An anticausal system is one particular type of non-causal system. Causal means that the output at time t can be computed without any knowledge of the input at times >t. Non-causal just means not-causal, i.e. you must know some inputs with time >t in order to compute the output at time t. Anticausal means that the output at time t can be computed by knowing the inputs at time >= t, but without any knowledge of the inputs at time

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causal_system

No!

Although the HFT algo writers think they can write (or sell snake oil) anitcausal systems. 

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:10 | 6006195 Danielius
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Swine is plural.  You do not say Swines.   Pearls before swine.  About the market.... technicals are an idiot's game.  They do not apply. Nobody knows where this is going.  

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 12:06 | 6006327 FranSix
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Pearlez afore swinez.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 12:54 | 6006404 Eyeroller
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..., bitchez.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 18:33 | 6007186 Pure Evil
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Whorez!

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 00:00 | 6007783 Fish Gone Bad
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Swine is the plural of "pig".  Unless of course you are talking about fat Inland Empire women at Swine-Mart.  Then swines is appropriate.

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 12:33 | 6008569 Tall Tom
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Fuckerez...Mudder Fuckerez atz thatz.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:10 | 6006196 Danielius
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Swine is plural.  You do not say Swines.   Pearls before swine.  About the market.... technicals are an idiot's game.  They do not apply. Nobody knows where this is going.  

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 15:31 | 6006803 weburke
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started at 666, so there has to be some masonic high number. I thought it might be 1998, 3 * 666, but no. 4 * ? 

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 11:04 | 6008368 rccalhoun
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how about 6666 ?

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 11:15 | 6008392 marts321
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The current top is at 2119. 11 and 9 are satanic numbers, or flip it round we have 911. Cause for concern? 

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 11:11 | 6008384 Monetas
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Russian trolls .... are swines !

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 17:24 | 6009265 Max Steel
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So do hasbaras . They have been raised like a pig for slaughter .

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:11 | 6006200 Freewheelin Franklin
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Well, let's all hope that there isn't a major correction. The Fed and central bankers shot their load in 2008, and have been stroking a limp dick for 6 years, now. 

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 00:03 | 6007787 Fish Gone Bad
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Limp dick?  Hell that monster boned the VIX and anyone short anything... for a very long time.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:14 | 6006203 Fed-up with bei...
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Guys, there are run-on sentences, missing or misspelled words, etc.  I am one who thinks that you guys need to start editing better.   We are an English-speaking country and this is irritating.   You COULD run a spell checker, and grammatical tool, and the number of errors would plunge.

 

Current example:

 

"In fact, most perma bulls have shy’d away from even mentioning fundamentals other than to say that generally they aren’t looking great but don’t worry the Fed is still engaged. "

 

BETTER WRITTEN:  
In fact, most perma bulls have SHIED away from even mentioning fundamentals, other than to say that generally they aren’t looking great.   but, don’t worry as the Fed is still engaged. 

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:28 | 6006224 Pool Shark
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Indeed.

The opening sentence of the article is grammatically incorrect as well as confusing.

[BONUS: DON'T begin every paragraph with the word: "So."]

 

 

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 08:33 | 6008111 Headbanger
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So like, why not then?

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 10:11 | 6008270 FinancialWizard
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Totally!  Whatever.   Or something... 

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:48 | 6006277 IridiumRebel
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Start your own blog then! I'm sure you'll do great. NOW PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 13:45 | 6006535 RockyRacoon
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It all boils down to credibility:  If he can't spell and use common grammar correctly, why should I trust his TA?  Those weren't complicated sentences nor multi-syllable words that were mangled.  Cohesive thought is necessary in the case of written communication and in chart analysis.  If the former suffers, the latter is suspect.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 15:37 | 6006813 IridiumRebel
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I agree, but posting six comments about fucked up grammar is annoying. He smells of trolldom; been here 19 weeks and change. In the last year there has been a cavalcade of ZH discreditors. ZH is not perfect, but it's a breathe of fresh air in a sea of propaganda. If I loathe a blog, I simply do not visit it. Yes, the writing is full of issues, but the article's validity lies in his chart analysis as you pointed out to us.

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 00:07 | 6007791 Fish Gone Bad
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One gets to pick what they would like to read on ZH.  Unlike that brain dead Hannity shooting off his face to anyone in ear shot.

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 12:49 | 6008607 Tall Tom
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IRIDIUM REBEL...If you had read GW's article about Professional Trolls then you know that they need proper grammar in order for their algorithms to create a response.

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-23/propagandists-use-automated-software-spread-disinformation

 

He may be bitching about the grammar as his bots have been rendered useless.

 

Just a Heads up. Use poor grammar.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 20:34 | 6007452 Cornfedbloodstool
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But should be capitalized, Although, it should never start a sentence.

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 08:43 | 6008119 amadeus39
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But the but should be captialized, Butthead.

 

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 12:51 | 6008614 Tall Tom
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But why naught?

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:14 | 6006204 Fed-up with bei...
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Guys, there are run-on sentences, missing or misspelled words, etc.  I am one who thinks that you guys need to start editing better.   We are an English-speaking country and this is irritating.   You COULD run a spell checker, and grammatical tool, and the number of errors would plunge.

 

Current example:

 

"In fact, most perma bulls have shy’d away from even mentioning fundamentals other than to say that generally they aren’t looking great but don’t worry the Fed is still engaged. "

 

BETTER WRITTEN:  
In fact, most perma bulls have SHIED away from even mentioning fundamentals, other than to say that generally they aren’t looking great.   but, don’t worry as the Fed is still engaged. 

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:27 | 6006236 Rock On Roger
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Maybe you should heed your own advice.

 

Stack On

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 12:33 | 6006365 hannah
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Yo Yo Yo FACT,  perma bulls be shy’d away from even mentioning fundamentals other than ta say dat generally dey aren’t looking great but shit nigga don’t be trip da Fed ho's iz still twerkn sho 'nuff!

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 14:39 | 6006677 BIHM
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"Guys, there are run-on sentences, missing or misspelled words, etc.  I am one who thinks that you guys need to start editing better.   We are an English-speaking country and this is irritating.   You COULD run a spell checker, and grammatical tool, and the number of errors would plunge.

 

Current example:

 

"In fact, most perma bulls have shy’d away from even mentioning fundamentals other than to say that generally they aren’t looking great but don’t worry the Fed is still engaged. "

 

BETTER WRITTEN:   
In fact, most perma bulls have SHIED away from even mentioning fundamentals, other than to say that generally they aren’t looking great.   but, don’t worry as the Fed is still engaged. "

 

Dude you obviously have never worked in the industry.  Because if you walked into any fking trading room and started barking about grammar being shit you would get punched in the fking lips.  And then they would throw your irrelevant useless wannabe fking market guy ass out on the fking street.  So until you have a constructive thought shut your fking lips.  You're on here pretending like you know something.  But you're a fking little squirrel.  You know it, your mother knows it and all the girls who laughed and are still laughing at your goofy fking self know it.  So fuck off.  Get out of your fking mother's basement once in a while and get laid.  you'll be less likely to talk shit all the time because you'll have more interesting things to think about.  Tough guy.  And to all the technical haters.... why read a fking article that clearly is about technicals as per  the fking title if you don't believe in technicals??? You are the same fking morons that sniff your buddies fart everytime to see if it stinks.  Mindless fking dolts.  Jesus where the fuck do you fksticks come from.... assclowns.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 15:16 | 6006769 Yen Cross
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  You made my day. ;-D That fucking clown would be laughed out of the trading room faster than the Virtu algos that pillage his 401-K.

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 02:22 | 6007910 Kirk2NCC1701
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. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-16/contagion-arrives-european-peripheral-bond-risk-soars#comment-5999295 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 13:12 | 5999295 Kirk2NCC1701

"It's not just Schaeuble that doesn't see any problems"

"It's not just Schaeuble WHO doesn't see any problems". FIFY.

p.s. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-17/its-official-americans-r-stoopid 

Yes they are. They can't even get the basics of Grammar* correct. 'Mericans, you use THAT when talking about THINGS, and WHO when talking about PEOPLE.

The joke is that even "highly educated" people in the US do this -- including Bill Clinton, but he does it to be 'folksy' when speaking to Prols.

   * http://www.grammarbook.com/grammar/whoVwhVt.asp
   *
http://www2.gsu.edu/~eslhpb/grammar/lecture_13/that.html 

You really know the place is devolving when Reverse Snobbery is growing, when it's more fashionable to sound 'common' or 'folksy' (i.e. poorly educated or dumb), than educated or smart. Seems to be on the rise on ZH also, alas.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 18:31 | 6007183 hendrik1730
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Right. But then, I would also go for "grammatical toolS". Just saying .....

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 22:37 | 6007672 rsnoble
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I'm no professor, but the improved versions sucks ass.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:15 | 6006206 Callz d Ballz
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quit teasing

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:16 | 6006210 1stepcloser
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They made it levitate on purpose and they will make it crash on purpose.  IMF's Lidquidy call is them turing off the lending foucet.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:16 | 6006211 Fed-up with bei...
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Thing about the technicals is that you can cherry pick any baseline point to really make any case, good or bad. 

 

BETTER written, as the Phrase is wrong:

 

THE thing about the technicals is that you can cherry pick any baseline point to really make any case, either good or bad. 

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 12:36 | 6006372 IridiumRebel
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"BETTER written, as the Phrase is wrong:"
This is horrible English.
"This phrase is incorrect in its written form. It would be better written as such:"

If you're going to be a grammar Nazi, write properly.

"So Bob? How'd you spend your weekend?"
"Well, I poured through a blog checking it's grammar!"

#asshole

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 12:59 | 6006413 NoIdea
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ITS grammar - no apostrophe

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 15:28 | 6006793 IridiumRebel
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IT IS grammar. So yours would have an apostrophe. Try a complete sentence, too.

BTW, auto correct fucked that up.
(Why yes, I did end on a preposition.)

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 00:42 | 6007836 bilbert
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Ooops - "pored"

 

Screw this - I suspect a lot of financial heavy-hitters are NOT English Majors.

 

That said - I'm more interested in WHAT ZH posters say, than how they say it.

 

http://grammarist.com/usage/than-then/

 


Sun, 04/19/2015 - 01:16 | 6007857 IridiumRebel
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Oh Jeebus Xmas!

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:18 | 6006216 Fed-up with bei...
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So what I’ve done is taken a two....

 

BETTER:

 

So what I will present here is an effort to TAKE two....

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:18 | 6006217 Fed-up with bei...
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So what I’ve done is taken a two....

 

BETTER:

 

So what I will present here is an effort to TAKE two....

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:23 | 6006226 i_call_you_my_base
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A couple of things worth noting:

"Submitted by Thad Beversdorf via FirstRebuttal.com,"

1) ZH reposts many articles, so you are complaining about someone else's writing, not ZHs.

2) ZH also posts ~30 articles per day, and personally, I would prefer more information if that means the quality of writing is worse. It's an acceptable trade-off IMO.

3) It doesn't really matter.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:24 | 6006229 Crabshacker
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Is there a fucking echo in here or is it just me..

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:24 | 6006230 Crabshacker
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Is there a fucking echo in here or is it just me..

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:53 | 6006295 Pool Shark
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It's just you.

 

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:54 | 6006296 Pool Shark
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It's just you.

 

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:23 | 6006228 buzzsaw99
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Let me be clear, there is no Fed equity market put.

William C. Dudley, NY Fed CEO
Bernard M. Baruch College, New York City
December 1, 2014

psst: that means there is and I have the charts to prove it.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 12:01 | 6006314 Pool Shark
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"At this juncture, however, the impact on the broader economy and financial markets of the problems in the subprime market seems likely to be contained."


Benjamin Bernanke, Federal Reserve Chairman

March 28, 2007

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 12:21 | 6006349 nope-1004
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Bernocchio lies constantly.  That was his job and will continue to be his MO - to lie like a rug.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 14:21 | 6006625 max2205
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One moar new high and I am out.....promise 

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 02:25 | 6007915 Kirk2NCC1701
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Technically, he didn't "lie". 

He just deceived, in using enough qualifiers: "seems likely".  Seems.  Likely.  People hear what they want to.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:25 | 6006233 anachronism
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Very good presentation of the technicals. But....

As Lord Keynes -one of the best commodity traders of his day- famously stated:

"The markets can remain irrational much longer than you can remain solvent."

This fellow can crow that he was "right" at some point in time. We just don't know when.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:32 | 6006238 Number 156
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Everything is political.

I expect more efforts to monetize that ramp.
There is a US president that has a legacy to keep. As soon as 2016 is over, they will let it crash in one big heap.

This is why things like 'technicals' and 'price discovery' have been broken.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 12:39 | 6006369 booboo
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The bankers use crisis to their advantage. Pre elections are perfect times to force the crisis, it gets the politicians to commit to their loyalties. Politicians will do anything to get it off the table since they are on the hook for it. Look at the 08 Mclame/Obama contest, remember them both sitting in high level meetings in the White House.

3rd Q 2015 will fit the bill, President Zero has a pen and a phone.

 

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 12:22 | 6008544 Freddie
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Bingo!

The Z-elites have a big investment in Obola.  As long as he is there - the markets will levitate.  Clinton did the same thing. 

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:34 | 6006248 q99x2
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There is nobody in the market except the FED and the people that control the pensions. You have to call the FED's software developers if you want to know about markets. If you can't reach them there call over to Goldman Sachs because they are the same ones that work over there.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:35 | 6006251 Winston Churchill
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The obligatory: Gold bitchez.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 11:44 | 6006269 joego1
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It might be just as effective to study about why animal herds stampede.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 12:07 | 6006329 Clowns on Acid
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Technical analysis doesn't work when nothing is real.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 13:34 | 6006514 I Write Code
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That is, old guidelines don't work.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 23:19 | 6007737 R19
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It absolutely does - at least in minus sum game markets like FX.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 12:29 | 6006360 ArtOfLife
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Stop trying to predict the market short term. Hold stocks for the long term.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 13:38 | 6006522 disgruntled hou...
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Long term is a relative term. Baby boomers, who most likely hold most stocks, really cannot afford to hold for the long term if they will be needing those funds shortly- say they have no pension and are looking to their portfolios to fill in the gaps social security leaves.

Now when baby boomers do cash out who will replace them? We have generations who are loaded with student debt, under employed, no paid health benefits connected to employment and no pensions.

Once baby boomers start to realize they have to have buyers to realize their gains who knows how orderly or quickly the whole thing will fall apart.

If boomers have been blessed with a longevity gene or are interested in what money they leave to their children they by allmeans ride it out.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 19:08 | 6007272 Absinthe Minded
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What happens to all those pensions that are getting funded based on 7-8% returns?

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 10:19 | 6008281 Caleb Abell
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Then the pensioners will go to Plan B (cat food).

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 23:58 | 6007779 MrSteve
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The replacement for Boomers is immaterial because their mutual funds will pay them cash when they sell the funds. Forced redemptions may - will - occur, but the sales function isn't like an ETF or stock. They will cash out.....an aspect not many consider....

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 12:36 | 6008574 Cloud9.5
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Don't kid yourself.  Two ninty yearold women in my family are sitting on a couple of million. They won't budge.  They are still saving for a rainy day.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 19:13 | 6007288 El Hosel
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Don't make me laugh, my lips are chapped.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 12:43 | 6006382 raywolf
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nice charts, but we ran up the blue line for 1/2 decade in the 90s.... we only just touched it last year.... this has more to go yet.... we need some real spikes....

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 13:00 | 6006415 atthelake
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They've chosen a republican for the next president. Anything they do will center around that.  That means giving us the big fail BEFORE  the 2016 election so the masses think they chose the next (republican) president..

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 13:31 | 6006500 Element
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A least it's not a Hindenburg-Omen ... I hear those are really bad.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 13:31 | 6006504 Dazman
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Hocus Pocus.

That said, I still want a crash.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 13:48 | 6006542 SWAG
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Keep calling the top ZeroHedge. Eventually, for once in the last seven years, you will be right.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 20:43 | 6007478 PresidentCamacho
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Swag just because it doesn't "happen" all in one night doesn't mean this market hasn't already been destroyed.
Its not even a "market" anymore.

 

Right now its just an centrally planned conduit to pump assets into the economy. Especially to the inner circle.

 

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 06:51 | 6008037 gwar5
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If you're 1 step ahead of the market they call you a genius. But if you're two steps ahead of the market they call you "crazy".

 

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 13:51 | 6006551 venturen
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every thing is like silent heart attacks....the warning keep coming...but the fraudstera running the system ignore it. Then one morning you wake up dead

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 14:26 | 6006638 rsnoble
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Oh i'm convinced the collapse will be broadcasted as an overnight event.  "The US collapsed overnight".

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 14:27 | 6006634 rsnoble
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Problem was last two times they weren't nearly as proficient with outright criminal acts and digital zeros.  I have no doubts this is all overpriced garbage, what happens is anyones guess.  I personally think they're going to get their asses railroaded.

Many say 12k is a fair valuation.  Does that mean crash to 12k and then have a 6 month HFT fuckfest and end up right back where we are now?

Shits getting old.

 

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 14:28 | 6006644 Weaponized Innocense
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Well even anal lit fucks couldn't keep Shakespearian speak around forever!

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 23:18 | 6007735 R19
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Still processing the full extent of this comment, but so far it sounds fucking hilarious.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 16:15 | 6006880 sidiji
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this junk is not technical analysis...come on...i could put in those two slopes at any point during the advance...and very obviously it continued to advance.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 22:26 | 6007647 smokescreen
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lets think about this for a bit...although they are responsible for letting the mortgage crisis occur through their own greed and that of others...there is a certain logic to their reactionary madness...namely QE and various other money expanding magic.

The rich are in the market also...and for now are content with playing the current trading range, they to wish not to lose their money in a massive crash. This market will not correct massively until they wish it...they are able to contain almost any black swan event or other market mishaps. I think we would see a rather large run-up in stock prices prior to a smart money exit this would occur quickly as they sell into the dumb money rally. I think we are ok for now atleast for the second quarter...we will see how prices react and then one must decide whether the risk reward ratio is tolerable. When it does correct in a large fashion the sell off will be vicious...there won't be an exit strategy, it will move way to fast. So one needs to watch for when the fed gets its balance sheet way low perhaps to 500 to 800 billlion...then their QE gun is reloaded, oil can go way up and trigger a recession fear fueled sell off, so watch the feds cue. I figue 1 to 2 years to clear its balance sheet or perhaps a bit less.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 22:31 | 6007656 Gods
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-68% correction

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 22:42 | 6007677 rsnoble
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Before the big rise, the market was in a gigantic M/A pattern.  Had there not been manipulation, it would've resulted in S&P 450.  

Say what you want about t/a, fact of the matter is the FED hires the best in the business.  They locate these patterns/possible breakdowns and throw money at them like no tomorrow in order to negate them.

Sadly, things are so fucked up now it's always possible to visit what we would had in the first place.  Imagine the aftermath of crashing that far from our current levels, lmao.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 22:56 | 6007707 juicy_bananas
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The bigger they are the harder they fall.

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 23:17 | 6007731 R19
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I'm more bullish than ever.

 

Sincerely,

Every CFA

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 23:18 | 6007733 Solio
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Well, if we just keep convincing the sheeple that all of these digital zeros are the real deal, then we'll have bought all of the resources, politicians. and security peeps and we'll stay in the catbird seat!

 

Sat, 04/18/2015 - 23:20 | 6007741 flyonmywall
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I'll take "Kick the can down the road some more for $1000" please Alex.

Answer: Team that is in charge of rigging the stock market.

What are the PPT, the Federal Reserve and the Primary Dealers ?

 

 

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 00:28 | 6007820 R19
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Truly entertaining.

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 12:35 | 6008572 R19
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-1? HAHA Rough crowd...

Sun, 04/19/2015 - 13:09 | 6008652 buzzsaw99
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-1 is a badge of honor. -99 is a thumpin'.

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