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Ron Paul Tells Obama: "It's Time To Try Something New"

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Submitted by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity,

Last week two prominent Ukrainian opposition figures were gunned down in broad daylight. They join as many as ten others who have been killed or committed suicide under suspicious circumstances just this year. These individuals have one important thing in common: they were either part of or friendly with the Yanukovych government, which a US-backed coup overthrew last year. They include members of the Ukrainian parliament and former chief editors of major opposition newspapers.
 
While some journalists here in the US have started to notice the strange series of opposition killings in Ukraine, the US government has yet to say a word.
 
Compare this to the US reaction when a single opposition figure was killed in Russia earlier this year. Boris Nemtsov was a member of a minor political party that was not even represented in the Russian parliament. Nevertheless the US government immediately demanded that Russia conduct a thorough investigation of his murder, suggesting the killers had a political motive.
 
As news of the Russian killing broke, Chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee Ed Royce (R-CA) did not wait for evidence to blame the killing on Russian president Vladimir Putin. On the very day of Nemtsov’s murder, Royce told the US media that, “this shocking murder is the latest assault on those who dare to oppose the Putin regime.”
 
Neither Royce, nor Secretary of State John Kerry, nor President Obama, nor any US government figure has said a word about the series of apparently political murders in Ukraine.
 
On the contrary, instead of questioning the state of democracy in what looks like a lawless Ukraine, the Administration is sending in the US military to help train Ukrainian troops!
 
Last week, just as the two political murders were taking place, the US 173rd Airborne Brigade landed in Ukraine to begin training Ukrainian national guard forces – and to leave behind some useful military equipment. Though the civil unrest continues in Ukraine, the US military is assisting one side in the conflict – even as the US slaps sanctions on Russia over accusations it is helping out the other side!
 
As the ceasefire continues to hold, though shakily, what kind of message does it send to the US-backed government in Kiev to have US troops arrive with training and equipment and an authorization to gift Kiev with some $350 million in weapons? Might they not take this as a green light to begin new hostilities against the breakaway regions in the east?
 
The Obama administration is so inconsistent in its foreign policy. In some places, particularly Cuba and Iran, the administration is pursuing a policy that looks to diplomacy and compromise to help improve decades of bad relations. In these two cases the administration realizes that the path of confrontation has led nowhere. When the president announced his desire to see the end of Cuba sanctions, he stated very correctly that, "…we are ending a policy that was long past its expiration date. When what you’re doing doesn’t work for fifty years, it’s time to try something new.”
 
So while Obama is correctly talking about sanctions relief for Iran and Cuba, he is adding more sanctions on Russia, backing Saudi Arabia’s brutal attack on Yemen, and pushing ever harder for regime change in Syria. Does he really believe the rest of the world does not see these double standards? A wise consistency of non-interventionism in all foreign affairs would be the correct course for this and future US administrations. Let us hope they will eventually follow Obama’s observation that, “it’s time to try something new.”

 

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Mon, 04/20/2015 - 22:15 | 6013259 LetThemEatRand
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Ron, you're out of politics now.  Will you just call it like it is, or was I wrong to vote for you?

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 22:20 | 6013273 Intelligence_In...
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he isn't running, his zio son is.

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 22:24 | 6013288 LetThemEatRand
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I have to say I agree with you on the explanation.

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 22:43 | 6013333 Billy the Poet
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You never really got Dr. Paul, did you? He was just a new flavor.

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 22:48 | 6013355 LetThemEatRand
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He said he wanted to end the Fed.  Where is any of that in this piece?  Where is the fact that the Fed and those who own it are behind Ukraine?   Do you really believe Ukraine is failed fucking Obama policy?  I take it all back.  You're right, I did not get Doctor Paul.

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 22:51 | 6013367 Billy the Poet
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He also failed to point out that the average American male's hat size is 7 3/8, the swindler!

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 00:03 | 6013518 Karl-Hungus
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'He doesn't mention ending the fed'
He mentions it all the time and wrote a book about it. Does he have to do it in every single post? He has made his stance on that about as clear as he can. And while I agree this isn't just 'an Obama admin policy failure' I'm sure RP would agree with that as well. It follows decades of interventionist foreign policy fuck ups that he has condemned for decades in almost as many articles as the fed.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 07:35 | 6013914 BoredRoom
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Ron Paul is a dumbfuck if he does not realize Obama's plan is to destroy America.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 07:52 | 6013943 OceanX
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"...administration is so inconsistent in its foreign policy."

On the contrary, the policy is the same as it ever was, create chaos...

Added to my reading list: http://www.amazon.com/Empire-Chaos-Pepe-Escobar/dp/1608881644

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 08:34 | 6014008 johny2
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time to try something new, except playing golf, and reading from teleprompter. 

Something is rotten in the state of USA.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 08:07 | 6013959 MonetaryApostate
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You got that all wrong, Obama doesn't have a plan, nor a budget, and it's not him that is destroying America, America is rotting from within due to laxity & a dire need for real justice.

The gov. is silent because if it doesn't make the MIC's boots shine, then screw it....

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 08:23 | 6013990 Dicey
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He does realise that and he has said it often enough.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 01:10 | 6013615 TheMeatTrapper
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"I take it all back.  You're right, I did not get Doctor Paul."

I have to chuckle at the thought of LTER getting off his ass and showing Ron Paul how it's done. Much easier to sit on the sideline and throw rocks at others. 

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 08:09 | 6013964 MonetaryApostate
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I'm glad someone sees through that paper tiger, his son is a bigger testament of who the Pauls are, and that is purely sellouts....

Anymore questions?   http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9ehFftLUKuY/maxresdefault.jpg

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 07:25 | 6013898 Grimaldus
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obombatron assclown never voted for Paul.

A true progressive though, nothing but lies.

Grimaldus

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 06:45 | 6013842 Jadr
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I'm really hoping Rand is just playing a calculating politician angle knowing he needs to support Israel for red meat Republican voters and then goes full libertarian infilitration.  It isn't like every other recently elected (maybe all?) elected presidents have lied about their intent for policy.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 10:24 | 6014354 rbianco3
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"I'm really hoping Rand is just playing a calculating politician angle"

I've suspected this myself, there is no way that the apple fell that far from the tree with Rand. What Rand does have are the lessons learned during three attempted Libertarian (or Republican in name only) presidential elections. If Rand were to play his cards as they are the establishment would break every rule possible to keep him out of the nomination, as they did with his Father ala Snowstorms' Mis-announcing winners early to kill momentum, physical abuse, lack of media coverage, negative media coverage.

If Rand has been sold out, and I fell for it, than I deserve to go to the gas chamber. I'd trust the family with my life and that of my family, can you say that about any other politician?

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 22:21 | 6013277 Newsboy
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PHrasing it as a question ends up letting you say more, before people turn off.

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 23:21 | 6013440 weburke
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we are not allowed leaders, just the wierdos.

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 22:36 | 6013285 Cabreado
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He's calling it like it is, always has,

and he's still alive.

He's done enough, don't you think?

Or are you still wanting someone to fix it all for you?

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 22:43 | 6013337 LetThemEatRand
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It is true that typing here is somewhat pointless.  

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 22:48 | 6013356 Billy the Poet
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Well you're certainly true to type.

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 23:42 | 6013484 pgroup
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I up arrowed you because your comment did not deserve 8 down votes. It must be the grumpy squad's shift.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 01:11 | 6013617 TheMeatTrapper
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Well. bye then.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 08:15 | 6013970 rickybobby1hundo
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A+ for the Curly Bill reference. 

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 23:09 | 6013406 golden torch
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Tue, 04/21/2015 - 00:53 | 6013596 williambanzai7
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Frankly, I see many reasons to value the man's opinions even more when he is not running.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 01:13 | 6013620 Otrader
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If he called it like it is, bang bang!

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 22:17 | 6013266 chunga
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Hey all you smug GOP voters that say you're certain Rand Paul blows and Ted Cruz is your newest awesome savior...

Even though I think voting is dumb, I might go and vote for Rand in the primary, just so I can say FUCK YOU!

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 22:26 | 6013286 BrocilyBeef
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But but but, it's the Tea Party!

And paging Andrew Jackson's ghost. "Jackson? Jackson?"

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We're all but on our own. Time to ask G-d for that favour...

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 22:43 | 6013332 chunga
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The rank and file partisan statists from both phony teams will piss and moan.

Guess what?

Despite the gyrations to the contrary, they're gonna end up with hillrey and Jeb.

Every single solitary moronic move out of .gov has come from a D or an R and thats a fact.

 

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 00:01 | 6013515 forexskin
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like the new avatar, chunga, although the former decorated anon bag was the best of the genre...

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 09:13 | 6014095 chunga
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mixing things up a little bit...goin' retro

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 17:05 | 6015951 thebigunit
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The rank and file partisan statists from both phony teams will piss and moan.

Chunga, I assume you are suggesting that you are on the "real" team.

When you look down the bench, how many other people are on the team with you?  Do any of them have names or carbon footprints?

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 22:35 | 6013316 gwar5
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It'd be a tickle If Cruz and Rand ended up on the same ticket in the general election so you can say fuck you again. 

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 22:39 | 6013322 foghorn leghorn
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Government is starting to post on Zerohedge, RT and Infowars. As a matter of fact the wife of Ted Cruz works for Goldman Sachs. So I totally agree with you. Ignore the government trolls they are just here to deceive us. Remember this comes on the heels of that report that Zerohedge did where Cltinon and that RT whore called us terrorists like ISIS.

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 23:45 | 6013495 pgroup
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Formerly worked at Goldman 'hail satan' Sachs. She resigned so her husband could run.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 00:03 | 6013519 forexskin
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correction, she took a leave of absense - so they can run her husband with 'plausible' deniability...

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 07:25 | 6013897 DeadFred
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You can take the woman out of the pit of evil but can you take the pit of evil out of her?

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 23:49 | 6013501 Antifaschistische
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Why would OB want to try anything different with his track record.

I mean....all over the evening news tonight was the story of the boats that have sunk carrying people who are desperate to leave Libya.   Correct me if I'm wrong....but didn't Obama fix Libya already?  And Tunisia?  And Egypt?  And Iraq?   At least we're going to fix Yemen...and the Ukraine.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 06:17 | 6013814 Arnold
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That was your girl Hillary (whom I endorse for POTUS 2016).

 The Janitor is mopping up in the Middle East now and not doing such a hot job.

She has been very sucessful in her Middle east adventures.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 07:09 | 6013868 NoVa
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certainly hope you are being sarcastic -   your cdomment comes across as idiotic.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 07:39 | 6013920 BoredRoom
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Obama voter?

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 22:20 | 6013274 BrocilyBeef
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“this shocking murder is the latest assault on those who dare to oppose the Clinton regime.”

“this shocking murder is the latest assault on those who dare to oppose the Bush regime.”

“this shocking murder is the latest assault on those who dare to oppose the Obama regime.”

 

Just spin it.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 06:32 | 6013831 Kokulakai
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The continuity of policy points straight at the money.

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 22:22 | 6013279 Parrotile
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> While some journalists here in the US have started to notice the strange series of opposition killings in Ukraine, the US government has yet to say a word.

The Western MSM knows what to print (and what NOT to print). Bringing attention to political assasinations in Ukraine would most certainly NOT be spreading "The Right Message", so any mainstream coverage will be minimal, and certainly buried in the middle of the paper (along with the Astrology section / "It's a Very Strange World" type of coverage).

Only "news" that fits the "accepted narrative" gets front-page treatment, and this sort of news isn't "it".

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 22:22 | 6013282 Catullus
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US foreign policy is being run by women. And has been for nearly 2 and a half decades. John Kerry included. Facts

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 23:36 | 6013470 Billy the Poet
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Women excel at razing children.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu-puE

 

 

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 22:24 | 6013287 kchrisc
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I was reading the AppleSeed.org's "Three Strikes to the American Revolution" today, and it struck me  that that is where we are headed.

Another treasonous killing by a gun and badge thug like in Ferguson-Strike-one. Then the National Guard coming in and firing upon the people like at Kent State--Strike-two.Then the people properly incensed, attack the trapped thugs and Guard in another "Parker's Revenge"--Strike -three.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.

 

They are on about strike-137 with me.

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 22:49 | 6013359 Seize Mars
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I'm with you.

By the way I think you meant http://www.libertyseed.org/strikes-the-three.html

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 00:07 | 6013528 forexskin
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right,

except our situation now has the enemy dug in like a tick right here, not 3000 miles away.

more like the french revolution. god i hope they know what they're starting when J6P goes over the edge en-mass.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 02:13 | 6013680 Parrotile
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When (if?) J6P decided "enough's enough", the "Opposition" will have already been very aware of the "unplanned" insurrection, (and so will have advanced plans in place) simply 'cause J6P will have been telegraphing their intentions to one and all via Social Media (which is why those pulling the strings have been pleased to allow this "media revolution" to happen, and just one reason behind the Nevada "Storage Facility").

Assuming the Nation that's responsible for People of Walmart does get it's act together, then be assured the Geneva Convention will be ignored by both sides, and "those in power" WILL do whatever they think necessary / desireable to hold their power, and if practicable, consolidate that power.

No mattter what happens, it will be a conflict that will make the last Civil War look pretty insignificant by comparison; a conflict characterised by open warfare, urban guerilla warfare, and probable use of weapons we thought had been banned forever - "Your Taxpayers Dollars at Work" . . . . .

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 07:49 | 6013938 SnatchnGrab
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I've tried to explain to people that violence is coming. Nobody wants to listen. What I can't say for certain is along which tribal lines the breaks will occur: race, age, religion, political affiliation, gender (<-- not likely), region of country. 

Regardless of how the battle lines are drawn, I do believe three things: said violence will be brief, said violence will be bloody, and said violence won't go the way liberals / progressives think it will.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 07:45 | 6013930 SnatchnGrab
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Your timeline is off.  Strike one was 1861. Strike two was / were the 16th and 17th amendments and the creation of the Fed. Strike three was Department of Education. Strike four (yes I know) was Waco / Ruby Ridge. 

Ferguson, et al, is just a little steam being released from the kettle. Bread and Circuses.

 

 

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 08:03 | 6013956 Ckierst1
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Plus one for your recognition of the real agendae of the War to Enslave Dixie.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 17:39 | 6016067 Equality 7-25-1
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Strike one was 1812.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 03:28 | 6017312 Alvin Fernald
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Strike 0 was 1791.

 

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 22:27 | 6013293 disabledvet
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The North German Plain truly is an "Invader Magnet."

 

If you're not going in one direction you're going in the other.

 

Putin can't stand the USA but seems obvious to me the feeling is mutual from the other side as well.

 

Only those with a grade school level of history understand how crazy this view is...but there it is.

 

"Quite the reset." We've been full on Moby Dick for so long now it feels "normal."

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 22:39 | 6013323 Reaper
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Logic is beyond an affirmatively educated brain. Cui bono from the Ukrainian murders is beyond affirmative thinking. To foresee consequences requires intelligence. The great delusion of sheeple is to trust their masters, either for honesty or intelligence.

To emote is to be controlled by others' stimuli. To think is to be in control. To imagine you're exceptional is fanciful. To believe your office sanctifies your acts is insanity. How many millions died for their leaders fantasies? How many more will die for the glory and fantasies of our present masters' exceptional superiority?

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 22:52 | 6013369 DOGGONE
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Hidden but unhideable is:

"Stop whoring for Wall Street"
http://www.showrealhist.com/yTRIAL.html
http://patrick.net/?p=1223928

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Mon, 04/20/2015 - 23:44 | 6013490 tarabel
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I beleive it was 1930s con-man and bank robber Willie Sutton who observed that "You can't cheat an honest man."

So, no thank you to your offer of free money.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 00:09 | 6013533 Karl-Hungus
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"I'm making 2000 usd/ day with my magic ATM card that no one can catch. Email me at troll@fbi.gov

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 00:58 | 6013604 daveO
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I guess they're 'branching out' from the ISIS terrorist training.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 04:03 | 6013750 winchester
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or " i am 15 years old and when i was still in my father's ball sack the yes_cards were already available@anycorner.com "

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 00:09 | 6013535 Ms. Erable
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Does this majickul wunderkard also disable an ATM's security camera, or do they have a video record of your thefts?

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 23:22 | 6013424 g'kar
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Yay

Mon, 04/20/2015 - 23:44 | 6013493 vincenze
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The Ukrainian government maintains a website with the list of all opposition leaders that includes their photos, addresses, and phones.
It tells nazis, "Kill them all!" Murderers, of course, are never found.

https://psb4ukr.org/criminal/

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 05:14 | 6013745 Cochore
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There are some very interesting revelations about NATO's connections to that site here -

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2015/04/ukraine-both-sides-touched-by-nato-...

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 00:11 | 6013539 fascismlover
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Ron Paul needs to learn there is history he does not know about.  

This all seems very 1984-ish, Emmanuel Goldstein is the enemy (slash/ Snowden).  Or maybe we are the enemy. 

As it turns out, I am too tired to determine the enemy so I am going to go out on a limb and guess (based on history), that it is human.  Human is the enemy in any tale that the winners have recorded.

Was hoping it was sharks or Yeti or something besides us.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 00:42 | 6013579 vietnamvet
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How appropriate that the 173rd Airborne is training Kiev junta neo-Nazi militias - which have just been formally incorporated into the Ukranian "Armed Forces".  During the Vietnam war, the 173rd was notorious for mutilating corpses, shooting civilians, destroying houses and villages.  Doubt they can teach much to those skinheads running around in the Azov "battalion" though, they're already experts in murder and mayhem.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 04:18 | 6013756 JDFX
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' It's Time For Change, Bitchez ! '

 

Change, just one more time. Real change you can , erm, ' believe ? '  in !  <TITTER> 

 

...and cue...   # oh say can you see.. etc etc... 

 

 

 

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 06:31 | 6013829 basho
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"Might they not take this as a green light to begin new hostilities against the breakaway regions in the east?"

of course because that is the script.

and they are going to lose their asses along with the clowns from the 173rd.

and the rebels will take Mariaupal(sp).

and so it will drag out.

nobody listens to RP anymore now then they did while he was in office.

it's all words. nothing is going to get fixed. nothing.

the ussa is still on a downward trajectory and it ain't the left and it ain't the right.

it is you

and you aren't doing anything but talking.

as always. lmao

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 07:21 | 6013889 Racer
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16m16 minutes ago

43% of American adults think that humans and dinosaurs co-existed."

 

No wonder they put up with Biliary Cliton

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 07:27 | 6013903 p00k1e
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Maybe.  Bush worked it out with the fish. 

 

I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20Jcrk6jGfo
Tue, 04/21/2015 - 08:26 | 6013994 Seize Mars
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I will never, ever get tired of that one.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 07:22 | 6013891 p00k1e
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Ron Paul doesn’t ‘tell’ anyone anything.  And never did.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 07:47 | 6013936 Ckierst1
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That is probably because most people aren't really listening to reason.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 08:49 | 6014037 MFL8240
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How about resignation?  That would be the best foreign policy move this fool could make!

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 08:55 | 6014049 peaceful
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I doubt Obama can find Kiev( or the Uktraine for that matter) on a map. Its the douches behind the scenes (lobbies,advisers, generals, scumbags) doing the decision making. Let's raise some money here on ZH so we can send pallets of Vagisil to Washington. Lets support our douche bags

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 09:02 | 6014050 peaceful
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I doubt Obama can find Kiev( or the Ukraine for that matter) on a map. Its the douches behind the scenes (lobbies,advisers, generals, scumbags) doing the decision making. Let's raise some money here on ZH so we can send pallets of Vagisil to Washington. Lets support our douche bags

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 09:20 | 6014122 Bumbu Sauce
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How many years did this cunt roam the halls of power and do nothing to increase liberty?

And all the morons that stupidly supported him, sending him money and "winning" useless straw polls.

Cunts all.

 

It's true I saw it on an overpass and on a blimp!

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 09:32 | 6014160 gcjohns1971
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Firstly,  Ron Paul is right.

But there is more to know.  There are some drawbacks to non-interventionism...namely the undoing of all the works of interventionism.

Firstly, with a non-interventionist US, Europe will not be mostly friendly, if slightly condescending to 'colonials', as they have been.  Europe will become much less pacifistic, by necessity.   And this will translate directly to more Euro militarism - returning to the prevailing trend of European history.  What difference to the world if US interventionism is replaced with Euro interventionism?  Probably not a lot.   But to the US and US citizens it will make a difference.  All the resentment will remain, but with less born-from-fear restraint.  And the anti-colonial 'culturally superior' bias will be bigger.

Secondly, the Dollar will collapse.  It will probably officially collapse anyway.  And it will absolutely collapse anyway in fact (vice in officialdom). 

The difference is that with the US still at the head of the class, it will do all it can to camoflage that collapse...probably via an 'official' transition to some other, new, 'international' currency.  This still leads to US economic decline...for a time.   On the otherhand, with a rush out of the Dollar and no 'official' cover the US Government will simply have to default on its debts like Russia did in 1998.  But the US's debts are much, much, much bigger.  There is a larger-than-small chance that the rest of the world will go to war, and try and seize portions of the US to recoup some of their 'losses'.   Additionally, government dependents - including SS recipients, Welfare recipients, etc - will be simply cut-off.  With the 'officialized' version, they'll still get a claim on working people's pocket books.  This is either an advantage or disadvantage depending on whether you are one of the payers or one of the recipients.   Very sorry to SS recipients, but your SS account is NOT A SAVINGS PLAN.  It never was a SAVINGS PLAN.  It was a pyramid scheme benefiting the non-working at the expense of the working from the very beginning...and given the inflationary monetary regime it was the only retirement scheme possible ... by design (because they always intended to inflate-away the value of retirement funding).    Nothing can be done about that beyond families helping older family members...same as it ever was.

Thirdly, there will be economic chaos in the US...for a time.  All the things that the inflationary fiat dollar - supported with US interventionism -   subsidized will have to fail when the moral hazard stops.   New enterprises will have to be constructed from the ashes.  It is inevitable.  Starting sooner will make the pain less... but when you've been doing the wrong thing for decades the transition to doing better things is likely to be painful.

 

I would suggest concentrating on mitigating potential wars resulting from foreigners angry about the collapse of their dollar investments as the most important step...because it is hard to build a new economy while fighting a war.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 09:44 | 6014202 Republi-Ken
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RON, You mean that Yanukovych with the million dollar palace and private zoo?

The corrupt leader who stole millions by skimming bribery pay to play?

That Yanukovych?

You mean Putin's hand picked president?

FUK U RON

 

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 10:02 | 6014266 litemine
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And a Big Fuck You to the system you are Party To.  Keep your Millitary on your soil and keep out of others countries . The devistation left on others will in the future be known as the Great War Crimes in present History......Not the teachings in American Schools but the Truth. Keep your fucking GMO foods to feed you and your familiy's and stop forcing it on others, we remember Tobacco and the fights saying it is not harmful...........The American dream has been Hyjacked with Jack boots and we....the commoners are being starved of all dreams that once stood for something.....

War as an out is Wrong.................lets debate that one.....or are you a Bot?

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 10:12 | 6014303 rejected
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And Porky lives in a little straw hut just outside Kiev.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 09:53 | 6014227 BI2
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They're all too infected with

The American Curse >>>  http://wp.me/p4OZ4v-3z

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 10:06 | 6014284 NoTTD
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Find it odd that with Obama being a continuous fuck up for 6+ years you still illustrate this blurb with a Bush cartoon.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 11:28 | 6014622 Bankster Kibble
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Obama, Bush, Clinton . . . they are all told what to do by the same people.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 10:17 | 6014328 rejected
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Of course those fine upstanding Nazi's aren't mentioned.Like Vietnam (et all), WWII was a waste of time and lives.

Sieg Heil Murica!

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 11:19 | 6014585 Equality 7-25-1
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Whats the fucking problem, Ron? The NAU is going to according plan, everybody is keeping their mouths shut about it and you're getting your cut.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 11:27 | 6014614 Bankster Kibble
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"On the contrary, instead of questioning the state of democracy in what looks like a lawless Ukraine, the Administration is sending in the US military to help train Ukrainian troops!"

 

They aren't killing enough of the right kind of people.  The US military will sort it all out.

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