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Sabre-Rattling Soars: Poland Buys US Patriot Air Defense System, Gold Pops

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Just days after Russia lifts sanctions on Iran and prepares to send its S-300 missile defense system, it appears Washington has retaliated. As TASS reports, Poland - on Russia's doorstep - has decided to buy the US Patriot air-defense system (made by Raytheon) for a total cost of around $9bn: "The US proposal has been found to be more profitable from the viewpoint of Poland’s security and implementation of commitments within NATO framework." Washington, keen to ensure Warsaw signed up with Raytheon, has decided to loan Poland a battery of Patriots until the deal is signed.

 

 

As TASS reports,

Poland has chosen the supplier for its national missile defense system. According to the country's Defense Ministry, it is the US company Raytheon, the manufacturer of Patriot air defense missile systems.

 

"The US proposal has been found to be more profitable from the viewpoint of Poland’s security and implementation of commitments within NATO framework. Patriot systems are used in several countries," the ministry said.

 

Taking part in the tender was the Italian-French Eurosam corporation that manufactures the SANP/T systems. The Defense Ministry said one of important criteria in the selection of the air defense systems was their capability to resist Russian Iskander missile systems.

 

The project to form a national missile defense system in Poland is called Wisla. It envisions acquisition of eight medium-range air defense system batteries. Each of them will be equipped with GEM-T and PAC-3 MSE missiles. The Defense Ministry did not mention their quantity.

 

The signing of the contract is scheduled for 2016. Within three years after signing, the supplier should provide two batteries of one of available versions to Poland. The target configuration with a radar should appear in the republic in 2022-2025.

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As The FT notes, Raytheon’s Patriot system will give Poland the ability to defend itself against air missiles and military aircraft...

Washington was keen for Poland to choose Raytheon’s missile system, and has agreed to loan Warsaw a temporary set of Patriot batteries until the purchased products are delivered.

 

...procurement decisions were fraught with delays and controversy because of heavy lobbying from all sides and Warsaw’s desire to ensure it balanced geopolitical concerns and its needs to increase employment.

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While it is perhaps coincidence, precious metals jumped around the time the headlines on Poland hit...

 

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Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:40 | 6015121 SoilMyselfRotten
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Gold popped in 2013...it's still hissing

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:42 | 6015129 Headbanger
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Reminds me that it's almost Polka hour!

OK.. Moar like Luksusowa hour..

Sto Lat!

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:43 | 6015141 tradingdaze
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Do we get cabbage rolls and coffee.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:44 | 6015147 Headbanger
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No coffee

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:49 | 6015174 angel_of_joy
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Cabage rolls are actually delicious, just not in their Polish version..

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:51 | 6015189 Mike Masr
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Love mom's galubtsi!

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:54 | 6015198 pods
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Look out behind where they're pointed!

pods

#MarriedAPolack

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:57 | 6015202 NoDebt
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"The target configuration with a radar should appear in the republic in 2022-2025"

The war should be over by then, shouldn't it?

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:16 | 6015289 strannick
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Now we know why Poland and Ukraine get their asses kicked every fifty years, and why the world makes Polack and Ukie jokes. Stupid hegmonic-ass kissing, self immolating motherfuckers.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:34 | 6015364 Tall Tom
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Gold's move has nothing to do with the 1,000,000 ounces bought by Russia reported elsewhere on this website.

 

What correlation is there to that Supply/Demand event?

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:53 | 6015430 Osmium
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Supply and Demand?  yer just making shit up now.

/sarc

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 16:13 | 6015759 COSMOS
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What a waste of money, nine billion dollars doing nothing for the polish economy.  Just staying parked on some hills.  They could of spent that money on their own engineers and developed their own systems.  Rather those engineers will now was toilets and fix roofs in Europe.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 16:32 | 6015841 Latina Lover
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"Rather those engineers will now clean toilets and fix roofs for American bankster proxies occupying Poland and the Ukraine."

There, fixed it for you <g>

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 18:26 | 6016254 edotabin
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A-L-E-R-T !!

New navy base in the Med is now mandatory! Must be on alert at all times.  Iran needs new torpedoes too!

If they repeat this this one more time, it will result in a Nuclear Alert of unprecedented Alertness!

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:43 | 6015628 RaceToTheBottom
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OK, split the difference.  

Raytheon will shoot Gold out of their Patriot missile system...

Still and Supply and Demand event.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:03 | 6015472 Winston Churchill
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By Christmas they say.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 16:22 | 6015806 max2205
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Gee the entire GDP for Poland is what 4 billion.

 

Where'd they get 9 billion? 

 

Oh wait.....

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:43 | 6015144 1000yrdstare
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Poland has chosen Raytheon....I am shocked! shocked I tell ya!

 

keep poking that bear....  Poland will get the Russsian nukes first... then the rest of NATO, and whatever God you worship, have mercy on your souls..

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:20 | 6015542 Kirk2NCC1701
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Poor Poles. 1,000 years of indoctrination and breeding by the Church has turned them into "Serfs with zeal" for their Feudal Masters (old Aristocrats, Banksters and Neo-Feudal Oligarchs).

Reminds me of a dog breed that loves to fetch and lick the master's hand. All attributes I value in a dog, but hold in utter contempt in a human being.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 20:18 | 6016575 strannick
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I always found progressive liberals to take the cake for utter contemptuousness.

They'll fight for the freedom to marry their dogs, while licking Obamas and Hilarys hands, but count on the government to fetch their food from producers, while quoting plattiudes from a scheming old school actual Feudal Oligarch like the Dalai Lama.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:44 | 6015145 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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Gold pops, don't make me LOL

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:52 | 6015155 813kml
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Popcorn popped on news that I am hungry!

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:04 | 6015240 Bokkenrijder
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"Gold pops" Where? You guys call 6 measily bucks a "pop?"

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:26 | 6015563 Kirk2NCC1701
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I understand just enough of Danish/Swedish to know what you name means. LOL. Good one.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:59 | 6015212 thunderchief
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That's a lot of polish sausages for a hunk of non productive useless equipment.

 

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:53 | 6015438 RafterManFMJ
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If you know how to parse photo intel, you'll note those batteries are actually pointed South.

Stupid Poles.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:42 | 6015627 Omen IV
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so Poland defaults sooner than later on $9 Billion in debt - and you can pick it up for 25 cents on the dollar or less - what public or private asset do you trade it for ?

 

dont tell me for 5 Poles to screw in a light bulb

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 23:20 | 6017025 golden torch
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I'm making over $7k a month working part time. I kept hearing other people tell me how much money they can make online so I decided to look into it. Well, it was all true and has totally changed my life. This is what I do... www.globe-report.com

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:42 | 6015139 Squid Viscous
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How many Poles does it take to screw it into the ground?

 

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:03 | 6015229 taketheredpill
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I sold a Black dildo for $10, a White dildo for $10, and your Thermos for $20.  Wrong punch line?

 

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:09 | 6015257 Usurious
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How many Polish bankers did it take to start WW1?

 

None........They were jewish banksters.........

 

empire=banker.........banker=parasite..........empire=parasite

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:49 | 6015143 angel_of_joy
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I'll take S-300 over Patriot anytime. Seen the Pat at work in the 1st Gulf War. Not impressed. Russian stuff is probably way cheaper too... Anyway, by 2022-2025 it will be long over for the polacks, one way or another (most probably with a busted EU).

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:53 | 6015195 bogdan1968
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Asshole

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:03 | 6015230 angel_of_joy
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Trying to prove you're a moron ? Congrats, you've made it...

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:23 | 6015316 Bunghole
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Nah, He's just a Raytheon/DOD troll.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:40 | 6015382 Tall Tom
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He cheers the killing of our own soldiers.

 

One Patriot mishap was responsible for over 10% of the fatalities which the USA suffered during the Gulf War.

 

He enjoys profitting off of the deaths, needless deaths at that, of Americans.

 

As a vampire, he requires others' blood to live.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:56 | 6015447 RafterManFMJ
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bogdan said "Asshole."

As the French say, "Douchè"

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:31 | 6015342 researchfix
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US-hardware is made to fill pockets.

Russian hardware is made to do the kill in any conditions.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:42 | 6015395 Tall Tom
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So am I to understand that killing is better?

 

Is that what Russia's goal is?

 

That is what you just wrote you fucking, bloodthirsty, warmongering murderer.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:49 | 6015417 researchfix
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I don´t think so. I reflected on quality.

And, to answer your question, I think Russias goal is to be left in peace.

How did you know I am just fucking?

 

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 16:06 | 6015727 BandGap
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Fisrt Gulf War was 20+ years ago, I think the technology has improved. Willing to bet these systems also incorporate Iron Dome technologies, too. I know nothing about the S-300 system other than itis also being upgraded.

 

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 18:26 | 6016235 angel_of_joy
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Yeah, they keep saying that ! But then Windows has improved too in the last 20 years, you know... You might get the equivalent of a "7" or an "8"; it's just your life will depend on it... /s

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 18:00 | 6016166 Parrotile
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Assuming WW3 is postponed, by 2025 these should be entering service - http://nextbigfuture.com/2015/01/russian-pak-da-next-generation-stealth.html though I believe that the Blackjack will be maintained in service until 2040 at least (since more are under construction right now). The idea of a fully pilot-less bomber appeals, but why bother - when ICBMs are cheaper, and "recurrent cost of ownership" is less.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:44 | 6015151 Max Steel
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Poland thinks Patriot will save their ass , Nice .

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:05 | 6015244 MarkAntony
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I would not be so sure about that. It looks like a complete political move, and Angel above is right, by the time they get installed it will be irrelevant. This just keeps the military-industrial complex moving forward...

Poland has always been coerced to the wrong side of history by it's groveling, self serving and self absorbed leaders. It's the simple people that will suffer eventually, and that is the sad part. If Russia chooses to nuke Poland it will be successful regardless the amount of Patriots stationed there.

 

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:05 | 6015481 RafterManFMJ
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The simple people. Yup, but ain't that America - or Poland?

But they ain't no big deal
'Cause the simple man baby pays the thrills,
The bills and the pills that kill

Oh but ain't that America, for you and me
Ain't that America, we're something to see baby
Ain't that America, home of the free, yeah
Little pink houses for you and me, ooo, ooo yeah

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:11 | 6015263 datura
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Poles are stupid as hell, who will save their economy? They are one of the EU countries, which is ALREADY in deflation: officialy -1.6% deflation already. Stupid, stupid people. When they are hungry, they can go take a bite from this Patriot system, fools.  

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:30 | 6015341 Max Steel
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Poles are earth's biggest cry baby c@#&s .

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 08:12 | 6017497 Debugas
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whats wrong with having deflation ? It is good for poles

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:31 | 6015353 researchfix
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With help from the Pope.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:46 | 6015154 Mike Masr
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Good luck Poland when it's raining down Iskanders!!! It only takes one to generate a 200 million degree day. Hope there was a lot of sunscreen in that shipment.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:46 | 6015157 williambanzai7
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Victoria Nudelman is busy planning another Moron Rebellion in Warsaw. The Moron protestors, supported by skinheads from Katowice and Detroit will occupy the Central Wrsaw until Rham Emmanuel is elected Mayor of Poland.

Cookies will be served by Nudelman in a van parked next to the Palace of Culture.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:50 | 6015185 Squid Viscous
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Nudelman is gunning for Sec. of State under Hillary Ramrod, I have no doubt

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:01 | 6015222 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Nudelman, as a result of displaying her innate cruelty, was beaten up in 1982 while working as a counselor at a Soviet summer camp in Odessa.

http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/04/how-victoria-nuland-got-beaten-up-a...

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:18 | 6015295 pods
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She started out with sunflower seeds and graduated to cookies.

Looks like the other chick pulled out the ugly stick and went to town. She should have beat that cunt to death.

pods

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:02 | 6015467 bid the soldier...
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Surprised she didn't piss on he seeds.

Good find

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:09 | 6015260 MarkAntony
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NO WAY!  Rrrrrham PROMISED not to leave Chicago after his re-election, even if Potus (he or she) asked him to become the lord overseer... He just wont do it, I tell ya' !

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:46 | 6015165 Keynesians say ...
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Heart warming to see Big Defense Raytheon doing business. I'm sure Lockheed-Martin is not far behind in the ramp up for WW3 or whatever proxy war the US will get into next

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:48 | 6015170 Max Steel
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Apparently unlike israelis or yanks russians disnt comment on poland arms deal worth 9 Billion $ . baltics will go bankrupt if they keep purchasing usa qeapons like that . lol .

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:06 | 6015197 Urban Redneck
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That's not the way the US MIC is financed.  US Taxpayers will pay most of the 9 billion.  And they will go bankrupt if US puppet States are allowed to keep purchasing US armaments like that.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:49 | 6015175 lawyer4anarchists
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I don't believe any of this "sabre" rattling is real.  Might some innocents be killed? of course.  But all of the gangsters running all of the countries are the same.  We are no different. Our "holy founding" was hijacked from the beginning and that is just the reality.  Everything from then to now is just a con.  http://www.thetruthaboutthelaw.com/they-really-put-the-con-in-constituti...

"You don’t have to go through the archives to see what was really going on at the constitutional convention. I can see THE RESULT. And that is the gigantic federal government they claim is supported by a constitution they claim created only a  “limited” government.  Those two don’t fit together. So maybe it is worth a bit of time to look into what REALLY happened that summer in Philadelphia."

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:06 | 6015178 Sturm und Drang
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Poor Rommel. He would have enjoyed this.

Eva is hoping we get around to the champagne music. The bubble machine has been running non-stop for years now.

And a one, and a two and a..

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:50 | 6015180 katchum
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Everyone knows it's because of this that gold jumped.

http://www.pbc.gov.cn/publish/html/2015s09.htm

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:57 | 6015206 Urban Redneck
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Because they didn't add to offical gold holdings, or because their f/x reserves continue to shrink despite a rising dollar?

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:59 | 6015215 katchum
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Because of keeping up the hope of speculation that they will reveal later this year.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:03 | 6015232 Urban Redneck
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Sounds like an opportunity to short gold, and take some fiat off the fools- to trade with a local bullion dealer for some product.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:14 | 6015279 katchum
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Actually you're right, they will keep gold down to accumulate more gold reserves.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:52 | 6015191 falak pema
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warmongering accelerates in Eurozone.

Soon Cold War II will be official EU policy.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:55 | 6015200 Mister Delicious
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speaking of sabre rattling - just tried to not throw up in my mouth watching Wolf AIPAC Blitzer and Adam Schiff, who is somehow allowed on the "intelligence committee" - spin their nonsense on "Iranian weapons."

We're arming Nazis - real ones - in Ukraine. We're arming terrorists - real ones - in Syria. And Iraq.

And we are helping the Saudis and the puppet regime in Yemen kill its own people - people who by and large wanted reasonable reforms, perhaps autonomy.

It's just fucking crazy, the near complete control the warmongers have, the massive disinfo.

And sorry - but everywhere you look, Zionists - both Jewish and "Christian" {to include sock puppets like McCain and Cruz} are MASSIVELY over-represented.

Are we really not supposed to notice that people inordinately concerned with, if not actually primarily loyal to, a tiny, colonialist foreign state with a penchant for expansion by conquest and false flags are all over the media, and government, conflating America's threats with the "threats" to Israel's expansion?

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:13 | 6015271 kizell
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Amen.  The most frustrating thing for me is the fact that a vast majority of Americans simply cannot decipher the difference between reporting and propaganda. 

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:26 | 6015307 Squid Viscous
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Yes, but

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:22 | 6015314 Squid Viscous
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don't ever turn on Fox News ... you will blow a gasket if you think CNN is bad with the Zio-traitor newsfeed...and it's bad,

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:57 | 6015204 tony wilson and...
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i am not a polish jew.
but as a polish jew i understand
the russian iranian terror.
we cannot afford another polish jewish
hollocaust
by russian and iranian mullars.

we polish jews are giant everything about us is big
these free gifts from a jewish brudders in washington will only make us stronger and bigger.

some evil doers he call us pole lacks insane already.
i say to you nasty types.
they said charlie manson was insane
vlad the impaler peter the hermit and norman bates bat shit crazy i say this to you in replyu.

tesla pulse

North/South POLE magnetic DATA FIELD interaction with the iron 2 TOWERS
of the WORLD Trade Center ( Center of MASS)
ejections dustifications.

paper cannot burn steel already

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 13:58 | 6015211 Billy Shears
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And all this time I thought Polish jokes were an ethnic stereotype.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:15 | 6015281 Jack Burton
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The Poles are going to pay serious money here. American arms dealers are going to make large profits. Polish taxpayers will fund this with money that could have been used for economic growth, education and health care. Instead, they will sport Patriots.

Some people claim the new cold war was cooked up by the American Military Industrial Complex to ensure massive profits for the 21 st century. I find it hard to believe Washington would foster conflict just so US Military Corporations can make more money. So the reason for this missile sale must be to counter the coming Russian invasion of Poland. After all, the Poles have much that Russia needs and wants. No wonder the Poles fear aggression coming from the East.  Sarc/

It has been said that Washington has about a 5 year window of opportunity to destroy Russia before Russian growth and technology would make the war impossible to win, and within 5 years China would be the major threat. Washington also faces a fiscal and economic crisis that has been put off through money printing, but can not last much more than 5 years. So Washington has every reason to start a major European war as soon as possible. The Germans, Poles, British, French would be front line states and be the most punished in the war. Washington will sit safely on this side of the Atlantic and watch the show, feeding arms and troops into it to keep it going.

Only one question needs asking now. Will the American Military man accept taking 3/4 of a million killed in action the first 6 months of a major European war? Do not laugh! I urge you to take a few hours and research Russia's DEFENSIVE capabilites, stand off weapons. Plus imagine trying to use infantry inside Russian territory against a defense that has been prepared in depth for over 60 years. The USSR built defensive works across all of West European Russia, many are upgraded and ready. This is not Iraq, those who think of Iraq and Russia as the same type of war, are badly off track. And Russia has trees! This makes defense much easier. NATO bombed the Serb army heavily, but because of trees and brush, they destroyed almost nothing of the Serbs army. Look that war up, it is very educational.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:23 | 6015317 corbeau
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"..Washington will sit safely on this side of the Atlantic and watch the show.."

 

You forgot the "/sarc" note.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:43 | 6015396 researchfix
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This Atlantic seems to be far and wide. Nearly impossible to ship German gold from west to east.

Otherwise i think that nuke shipments are already in place to quick deliver to US...

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 18:58 | 6016349 JohninMK
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I am with you on this, but I think the 5 year window started at least a year ago.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 23:47 | 6017090 Jack Burton
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Yes, I can give you that. I think it did start to count down a year ago. So lets say 4 and counting eh.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 19:41 | 6016475 Parrotile
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Washington will sit safely on this side of the Atlantic and watch the show, feeding arms and troops into it to keep it going.

Jack - that may well be their "plan", so one wonders if this has been missed - http://www.smh.com.au/world/russian-analyst-urges-nuclear-attack-on-yellowstone-national-park-and-san-andreas-fault-line-20150331-1mbl14.html.

Whilst the Wetern MSM twitters on about how "Russia is no match for NATO forces", e.g. - http://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2014/05/dc-insiders-are-wrong-nato-could-beat-russia/83626/ (and here's the home page of that particular "Think Tank" - based in (surprise, surprise), Washington! - http://www.tcf.org/ ), we hear VERY little out of Russia, and what little we do hear is roundly derided / criticised by the fully-captive MSM, who are doing everything possible to "maintain the illusion".

Even now, the "accepted" storyline is that Russia "Invaded" Crimea, and there are plenty of articles peddling this viewpoint - a Google search results in 483,000 "hits", whereas  a search for "Crimea rejoining Russia voluntarily" gets this nice little "hit-piece" courtesy of the Wikipedia Foundation (who is paid by ? ? ? ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_status_referendum,_2014

Here (Australia) and pretty much everywhere else in "The West, the "Accepted view" is that "Russia is the Bad Guy", and the US / NATO are the "Good Guys" - evidence of deliberate coups / embargoes / forced "Regime Change" is conveniently (and firmly) swept under the carpet.

So, in view of the above deliberate assymmetry of information presentation, one really wonders what the "real" balance of power is. One also wonders just how supportive the civilian populations of the EU and USA will be once "real" rather than "televised, someone else's problem, change the channel dear" war comes knocking at their own doors . . . . .

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:17 | 6015294 corbeau
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"..Washington has retaliated.."

With Patriot? Don't make me laugh...

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:18 | 6015297 WTFUD
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Me thinks Iran is in far far greater need of the defense system due to ' all of its real assets on the ground and the host of parasites surrounding it.
Poland on the other hand will learn the hard way down the line that in choosing banksters over its people's interests is a huge mistake.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:24 | 6015322 Thisisbullishright
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Polands navy also wants an upgrade and is looking for new submarines...

...they have some of their old ones on sale on the international market....

They only need some TLC and to have the screen doors replaced   :)

 

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 19:42 | 6016486 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

Polands navy also wants an upgrade and is looking for new submarines...

Perhaps they'd be interested in some Swedish workboats.

http://rt.com/news/249109-sweden-submarine-hunt-workboat/

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 03:46 | 6017324 researchfix
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They could buy one from Israel.

Germany will be glad to donate a new one to Israel.

At no cost, of course.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:28 | 6015336 tony wilson and...
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trade swaps for freedom

fungified round up ready polish freedumb apples  for yanky windows 8  iron dome patriot spluttering cocks already

a kosher deal made in saturn hell.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:29 | 6015339 Mike Honcho
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If their army is as hostile and calloused as my Polish ex, then watch out world!

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:13 | 6015512 Victor999
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They are hostile and calloused, but they are shitty warriors - and they never seem to learn.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:27 | 6015572 Caleb Abell
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But they are geniuses at real estate.  They wandered Europe for thousands of years until they found a nice, quiet, peaceful place to raise their families ... right between Germany and Russia.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 16:21 | 6015804 Victor999
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LOL.... +1

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:31 | 6015588 Volkodav
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Pollacks normally on the wrong side of everything

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:35 | 6015605 Volkodav
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I told stay away from Polish women...include most western Ukraine..and Chicago

further east more stable, brainy... 

Siberian Ladies make best wives

 

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:29 | 6015340 New American Re...
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I am rhetorically wondering who is going to finance this $9 billion purchase by Poland???

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:36 | 6015376 tony wilson and...
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who is going to pay

listen nazi yanky

you goy must pay

 

we cannot allow russian iranian menaces on new anne franks.

think of the children hiding in polish jewish lofts attics

do not worry you can pay on a 50 year low interest plan

the price includes global warning heating cooling help nature rothschild tax

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 19:14 | 6016410 RallyRoundTheFamily
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I read this in "Boris" voice and lol

 

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:35 | 6015366 I woke up
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Poland isn't going to pay a dime for the systems

 

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:38 | 6015384 Berspankme
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"bought"  hahahaha- pull the other one

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:40 | 6015389 MrButtoMcFarty
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Good time to sell some XAU.

Cheers

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 14:53 | 6015433 Mister Delicious
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trial of a 93 year old former prison guard - a "nazi" in heavy rotation on CNN and top of NYTimes website

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/22/world/europe/oskar-groning-auschwitz-b...

I dont think I can go 5 days without a reference to the nazis, and I dont think in 5 months I've seen a story in the MSM about what life is like for Palestinians under Israeli occupation and colonization and apartheid.

As I read the comments to that story... and I think the Nazis *were* evil fucks, but then so were the Bolsheviks, and the Brits certainly committed a number of war crimes - but what about all the American men who were sent to die in BOTH world wars for conflicts that, by rights, didn't involve us?

When does "diversity" apply to a hollywood where for 70 years the majority of studio heads have been Jews, jews who very deliberately agitated to get the US to enter both world wars - not out of concern for America, or freedom, but out of concern for the Zionist project or Jews?

I dont even doubt that the Nazis killed millions of Jews in camps [I know some people think its all propaganda, I'm not convinced, although it might be inflated, and one should not face jail for asking questions] - but we are reminded of it, over and over and over - while no other people's suffering is treated with the same reference.

What about the Irish - who suffered genocide under Cromwell - a cromwell who let the Jews back in for financing?

What about the massacre of Koreans by the US? Or the Laotians?

What about the ethnic cleansing of 700k Palestinian Christians and Muslims by Euro Jews who then claimed some "right" to rename 400 villages and destroy the evidence of the native people?

I'm fucking tired of hearing about Jewish suffering, and I begin to suspect it is largely propaganda to justify the next round of Israeli aggression.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 19:19 | 6016430 RallyRoundTheFamily
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How's that red pill tasting?

 

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:13 | 6015516 Victor999
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Effective against Iskander????.....LOL

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:23 | 6015537 Caleb Abell
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The Poles are smart folks.  They will no doubt place the missiles in heavily populated areas like Warsaw ... to minimize the casualties when the warheads go off.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 16:21 | 6015800 Victor999
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And you think that will stop the Russians in time of war?  Think again.  The smart Poles will doom their own civilians by doing that.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:14 | 6015517 sancho0
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It is sad that Poland have to spend all that money to arm itself, against possible Russian aggression.

They should instead spend it to uplift their own people which are still relatively poor compared to people from other west European countries. They are still poor because they were under Russian boot for more than 40 years after they were betrayed and sold to Russians in Yalta conference at the end of World War 2. The fact is that the western world owns Poles big time and any means to properly defend against Russians should be given free. However, that’s not the way it works, obviously.

These arms that they are buying are clearly for defense and just as well, the Russians will think twice before trying to invade Poland.

One more thing – no one is attacking Russia. Any talk about them being surrounded by NATO is clearly Russian propaganda bullshit. So far they are the aggressors, annexing Crimea and carrying hybrid wars first in Georgia and now in Ukraine. They are guilty of sabre rattling with their hostile bombers and military exercisers. Russia with Putin became fascist state and it is acting like one.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:28 | 6015577 Volkodav
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You start by conflating Soviet with Russian Federation

Soviet was never a Russian construct

From 1917 thru Stalin was never Russians in control

rest of your post is shows equal ignorance

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 19:52 | 6016517 TheFourthStooge-ing
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The guy sounds like a Latvian potato troll, a butthurt pollack, or a jumping up and down primitive Ukie.

Who knows, he might be all three.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 16:13 | 6015760 bid the soldier...
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first

It is sad that Poland have to spend all that money to arm itself, against possible Russian aggression.

It's hardly sad for the defense contractors who make the Patriot missiles and are selling them for extremely inflated dollars.  And it is hardly sad for the US's balance of payments, as most of their other exports are too expensive for the impoverished nations of the West to import.

second  I'd love to read what you had to say about the bombing of Belgrade and Serbia in the 90's.  And the complete destruction by the US of Iraq early this century.

You might remember the US invaded a country 7000 miles away on the strength of a lie told by G.W.Bush.  And a second lie, to remove Saddam from office because of the relationship he had with Bush's father.  Even though Saddam kept the terrorists in Iraq under control, Iraq's greatest problem today.

The countries accusing Russia, have themselves undeniable records of crimes that go back 60 years or more.  But their jingoists completely overlook them so beholden are they to US for their smart tv and blueray player.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:19 | 6015532 Bankster Kibble
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When USA moved missiles to Poland after the 2008 Georgia war, we refused to give the Polish government launch codes and they were furious.  What are the odds as soon as we send them loaners this time, they will want to "test" those missiles. 

 

Oopsie, there went Kaliningrad.

 

I am hoping by the time Poland actually takes delivery of those Patriot missiles, Russia will have developed a counter move that will make them obsolete and so Poland won't want them anymore.  AND we won't send them anything that is cutting edge.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:22 | 6015548 Caleb Abell
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It doesn't matter if the Poles decide they don't want or need the missiles, the US will still demand the $9 billion for Raytheon.   Mission Accomplished.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:31 | 6015590 sancho0
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What you mean "there went Kaliningrad". How can you destroy a big city with Patriot missiles?

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:23 | 6015550 Tracerfan
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The Patriot is no more useful against the missiles Russia has and will have than a bottle rocket.  That's a total waste of a lot of money.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:26 | 6015562 GFORCE
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ZH is fine with a gold POP on ridiculous news but if it goes the other way, it's manipulated. 

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:26 | 6015565 CPL
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Poland just bought a lemon defense system.  They might have looked at the hit ratio on them before hand. (4%>).  Then again the ECB needed to reenforce one of their partners financially by buying their cheaply made and engineered crap.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:27 | 6015569 q99x2
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Reminds me of Greenpoint.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:27 | 6015570 Joe A
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"The US proposal has been found more profitable" is a euphemism for bribes and kickbacks.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:30 | 6015583 Tigermoth
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Memories from last year June:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/poland-foreign-minister-sikorski-we-gave-united...

"Poland Foreign Minister Sikorski: 'We Gave United States a Blow Job' for Nothing

In a recording obtained by Wprost magazine, Sikorski is allegedly speaking to Jacek Rostowski, a Polish MP from the ruling Civic Platform who was finance minister until last year.

"You know that the Polish-U.S. alliance isn't worth anything," Sikorski allegedly told Rostowski.

"It is downright harmful, because it creates a false sense of security ... Complete bullshit. We'll get in conflict with the Germans, Russians and we'll think that everything is super, because we gave the Americans a blow job. Losers. Complete losers."

"The problem in Poland is that we have very shallow pride and low self-esteem," he adds.

It is unclear who taped the conversation or how the magazine obtained the recording."

And they are obviously still giving it.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 19:28 | 6016453 RallyRoundTheFamily
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Thats fucking hilarious and 100% spot on.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:34 | 6015601 MrButtoMcFarty
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1201.10 and looking heavy....lolz

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:43 | 6015630 GoldenDonuts
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Please stop saying "GOLD POPS" on a 5$ swing.   Especially when it is staying inside the trading range that it has established for what a year now.    When gold is up $50 on heavy volume and traders are telling the CME to "turn those machines back on!"  You can tell me how gold has popped.  Until then please stop.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:43 | 6015632 NoWayJose
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Do anyone really expect the Polish government to come up with 9 billion for this?  It will be US taxpyaers - again - footing the bill, and Raytheon getting the benefit.

Ronnie Ray-Gun destroyed the Soviet Union by bankrupting the country - via forcing it to overspend on its military.  I wonder if Putin learned from this and is turning things around?

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:50 | 6015658 basho
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poles = dumber than dirt

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:51 | 6015660 Free_Spirit
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Good move Putin - Iran is paying for theirs, Poland won;t be paying $9Billion or anywhere near it, this is all just America overreaching itself.  Russia just has to sit at home and watch the US overreach itelf economically and militarily.   Russians make mistakes, but they learn from them. 

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 15:55 | 6015678 me or you
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Russian first nuclear strike will be against the head of the beast no against the tail. 

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 16:27 | 6015729 Volkodav
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This is out for English readers now...Polish EU Parliment Deputy and Presidential candidate: Poland trained Maidan snipers and more... 

   Important.

http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/04/korwin-mikke-maidan-snipers-were.html

 

 

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 16:12 | 6015755 Jonesy
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Yay, MOAR WOAR that only Jewish oilygarchs will benefit from.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 16:53 | 6015901 Shekels
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Masuria, Ostpreussen, needs to be returned to Germany. Two and one half million people, my ancestors included, were ethnically cleansed. Poland is evil !

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 01:14 | 6017206 sancho0
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Your people should have thought about it before they invaded Poland in 1939.

History likes to repeat itself. Germans believed in Hitler and paid the price. Russians believe in Putin and they will pay the price as well.

 

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 20:14 | 6016568 Prober
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USA should give ALL eastern European countries ALL heavy and advanced weapons, including full complement of nukes.

Tue, 04/21/2015 - 21:54 | 6016799 studfinder
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Air drop moroccan monkeys (outside of air defense range) strapped with c4 explosives...teach the monkeys how to detonate them when next to the S300 system.  Give them bananas and water bottles.  Bam bam...game over Iranian terrorists.   Then send in the F35s to kick ass and take names.  Bye bye nuclear Iran.  Try again.  As the reactor core spews it radioactive smokes...we will all know that are mission has been accomplished. 

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