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Why An American And A Russian General Are Suddenly Very Worried About Nuclear War
Over the past several years, there has been an alarming escalation of two very disturbing trends: an increasing preponderance of cyberattacks on complex infrastructure (whether domestic or abroad and whether instigated by external sources or internally, in a false falg attempt to evolve the issue to the benefit of various military-industrial complex benficiaries) as well as around the globe, and a largely unexpected return to a Cold War footing, one catalyzed by the violent US-sponsored overthrow of the former Kiev government and the eagerness to escalate the resultant conflict exhibited by the Kremlin.
If one extends said trends, one would arrive at a very unpleasant conclusion: due to the porous nature of modern technology and the increasing prevalence of cyberattacks, coupled with Cold War-era nuclear doctrines and rising tensions between the two superpowers who are now back to a Cold War regime, a nuclear war has suddenly emerged yet again as a very real threat.
At least such is the opinion of two high-ranking military commanders, American James E. Cartwright, a former Marine Corps general, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and commander of the United States Strategic Command, and Russian Vladimir Dvorkin, a retired major general who headed the research institute of Russia’s Strategic Rocket Forces. Both are members of the Global Zero Commission on Nuclear Risk Reduction, and both are very concerned about the future of the world if the current nuclear status quo between the US and Russia is left unchanged.
The two express their joint concern in a NYT Op-Ed, in which they warns of the dangers of old nuclear strike doctrines at a time when relations between the two superpowers are at such a low point. As a result, they call on Moscow and Washington to prevent possible provocations.
In the Op-Ed, the authors state that there are three Cold War legacy strategic options at the two countries' disposal: i) a first strike; ii) retaliation after an attack and iii) launch on warning. The generals opine that the latter is the riskiest scenario, "since provocations or malfunctions can trigger a global catastrophe. Since computer-based information systems have been in place, the likelihood of such errors has been minimized. But the emergence of cyberwarfare threats has increased the potential for false alerts in early-warning systems. The possibility of an error cannot be ruled out."
And while one can be skeptical that in the current environment of renewed animosity between East and West the two countries will sit down and amicably discuss nuclear disarmament, the reality of a nuclear strike threat should a "hacker" find their way into either the US or Russian launch system and bypass the launch codes, is indeed all too real, as is the assured response by the adversary, giving way to a global nuclear holocaust.
Which, in this day and age when a new war seemingly starts every month in a desperate neo-con boost to stimulate this (military industrial complex) economy or that, does not sound too far fetched at all...
Finally, those cynical enough can say that what the two generals have done is simply lay out the blueprint for the next steps in what with every passing day appears to be a increasingly truncated global future.
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How to Avert a Nuclear War
We find ourselves in an increasingly risky strategic environment. The Ukrainian crisis has threatened the stability of relations between Russia and the West, including the nuclear dimension — as became apparent last month when it was reported that Russian defense officials had advised President Vladimir V. Putin to consider placing Russia’s nuclear arsenal on alert during last year’s crisis in Crimea.
Diplomatic efforts have done little to ease the new nuclear tension. This makes it all the more critical for Russia and the United States to talk, to relieve the pressures to “use or lose” nuclear forces during a crisis and minimize the risk of a mistaken launch.
The fact is that we are still living with the nuclear-strike doctrine of the Cold War, which dictated three strategic options: first strike, launch on warning and post-attack retaliation. There is no reason to believe that Russia and the United States have discarded these options, as long as the architecture of “mutually assured destruction” remains intact.
For either side, the decision to launch on warning — in an attempt to fire one’s nuclear missiles before they are destroyed — would be made on the basis of information from early-warning satellites and ground radar. Given the 15- to 30-minute flight times of strategic missiles, a decision to launch after an alert of an apparent attack must be made in minutes.
This is therefore the riskiest scenario, since provocations or malfunctions can trigger a global catastrophe. Since computer-based information systems have been in place, the likelihood of such errors has been minimized. But the emergence of cyberwarfare threats has increased the potential for false alerts in early-warning systems. The possibility of an error cannot be ruled out.
American officials have usually played down the launch-on-warning option. They have argued instead for the advantages of post-attack retaliation, which would allow more time to analyze the situation and make an intelligent decision. Neither the Soviet Union nor Russia ever stated explicitly that it would pursue a similar strategy, but an emphasis on mobile missile launchers and strategic submarines continues to imply a similar reliance on an ability to absorb an attack and carry out retaliatory strikes.
Today, however, Russia’s early warning system is compromised. The last of the satellites that would have detected missile launches from American territory and submarines in the past stopped functioning last fall. This has raised questions about Russia’s very ability to carry out launch-on-warning attacks.
Partly to compensate for the loss of its space-based system, Russia has deployed prefabricated radar units that can be set up quickly along its borders. Some of these are already operational; some are still being tested. Unlike satellite networks, radar can provide accurate information about the scale and targeting of a missile attack — but only once a missile has entered its vicinity, which would most likely be 10 to 15 minutes after launch.
The upside of radar reporting is more information. The downside of having to wait is that it cuts the time for deciding whether to launch on warning. That in turn increases the likelihood of mistaken retaliation. For a submarine missile fired from the Norwegian Sea, Russia’s radar network would give its nuclear decision makers just 10 minutes to respond. America’s early warning systems can be expected to provide about twice as much time.
Clearly, for either side, these timelines are very compressed and the opportunities for ill-considered decisions very real. Launch-on-warning puts enormous strain on the nuclear chains of command in both countries.
In theory, no sensible head of state would authorize a launch-on-warning strike after receiving information that just one missile, or a small number of missiles, were inbound, on the assumption that this was not an intentional, full-scale attack. But the launch-on-warning doctrine still rules in both Russia and the United States — in which case the risk, however small, of cataclysmic error remains.
This risk should motivate the presidents of Russia and the United States to decide in tandem to eliminate the launch-on-warning concept from their nuclear strategies. They should reinstitute military-to-military talks, which were suspended over the Ukraine crisis, to pursue this stand-down as an urgent priority. (A joint decision on this would not destabilize nuclear deterrence: Both countries still have nuclear forces designed to withstand a first-strike attack, guaranteeing retaliatory strikes.)
To reinforce this accord, both countries should refrain from conducting military exercises that involve practicing missile launches based on information from early warning systems. Even if this restraint cannot yet be fully verified, it would be a valuable contribution to strategic stability — and, of course, to preventing an inadvertent nuclear war. This would be a positive step ahead of the Non-Proliferation Treaty Review Conference that the United Nations will host later this month.
Detailed verification measures can come later, once better Russian-American relations are restored. The technical implementation of a decision to abandon the launch-on-warning concept would fall within the framework of the New Start treaty. A phased reduction of the combat readiness of the strategic nuclear forces would provide a safer time buffer for nuclear decision making.
In periods of heightened tensions and reduced decision times, the likelihood of human and technical error in control systems increases. Launch-on-warning is a relic of Cold War strategy whose risk today far exceeds its value. Our leaders urgently need to talk and, we hope, agree to scrap this obsolete protocol before a devastating error occurs.
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Systemic neoliberal “rationalism” recruited to prepare us for nuclear war?
If it were a game of CHESS... Guess who would win?
I can't invest in this fear porn.
missile porn !! Nuclear Alert !!
The 666th Nuland-Kagan-ZIO-PNAC Brigade has an overwhelming compulsion to keep poking Russia.
One would think that these dual-citizen motherfuckers would have been hung and split open by now for the "5 billion dollar, maximum" Iraq War that's cost U.S. taxpayers TRILLIONS, and led to the least stable, most volatile
MENA in...well, forever (Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Egypt all in various stages and forms of civil wars, not to mention strains on Lebanon, Jordan, Tunisia, etc.).
Well said TIS, were are fucked when failure equals success somehow and the sheeple gobble it up and accept more. Dark times.
Yet according to people like McShitstain and Hitlary, we're still not "doing enough".
These people are fuckan whacked...
Like the psychopath who watches children at play and thinks only the darkest of thoughts. McCain, Clinton and their I'll can't enjoy the beauty of the world, they'd rather see it destroyed as long as they world the sword. Drunk on power isn't even the word. More like high on PCP. McCain especially. He travels to the warzones, he sees the results of the chaos we've created in the Middle East. Any rational man would be taken aback. A rational man would rethink what it all was for. McCain instead demands more war.
I do not believe in the Judeo-Christian dogmas. But there is a devil. Whatever cosmic karma and energy directs us through space-time has an evil component. It manifests in those who seek power over others. For every person who ever died in the chains of confinement or on a battlefield against one of his human brothers, one of these evil power seekers was responsible.
We have such a beautiful blue planet to enjoy. I wish we could evolve past the devils holding our species back.
What the good people of the world need, for their & their childrens' best interests, is a full-blown, bloody revolution.
The Financial/Fractional Banking-Military-Intelligence/Spying-Oligarch Complex needs to be broken permanently and with devastating force.
Who here has nuclear war nightmares? How many? When did they start? For me it was at the age of 9 in 1979, and they were using a new propulsion system. But I've had ones where the dwelling I was at was directly directly in the fireball. Some where I am just hit by the shockwave in buildings that fall over.
Just finished an in-depth study of the cold war thru 2012 history of CBR weapons and their development. The Dead Hand. Reads like a horror story.
Note: I am not the author
I recommend watching the 1984 British TV movie called "Threads".
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090163/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
I give fair warning though: The world depicted in "Threads" is certainly not for the faint of heart.
Watching that movie as a 12 year old kid certainly gave me nightmares. Much worse than Dr Who.
Eirik, Threads is a truly disturbing movie, but all too plausible.
My recurring war nightmare ... lost in an inner city warehouse area trying to find a way out without running into the zombies.. aka angry inner city folk .. no escape .. except to hideout with others trying to find a way out . .wonder what Freud would make of that. Other dream .. standing in a glass tower as a plane goes over . then a bright flash .. then I wake up.
In 1983 when I was ten years old, after watching The Day After.
In my dreams, which I still remember to this day was mushroom clouds and the faces of my family melting and turning into skeletons.
Well said Nihilist and TIS , this devil that you speak of has been named , Arcontic infection . Some interviews on RedIce with John Lash speak of this . Not sure how deep to believe this but its worth a listen and consideration .
Nice post, Nihilist. I read a book by M. Scott Peck many years ago in which he describes patients so compelling and consistent in their psychopathic reasoning that even their psychiatrists can be overwhelmed. He can't think of anything else to call this but "Radical Evil". I imagine sometimes that I sense that evil in some.
My wife and I sometimes marvel at some of the gruesome events of murder and mayhem that are carried out so methodically and efficiently and against so many people. We ourselves wouldn't harm a frog or a snake, much less a human being, so we're baffled at the images of facile violence that are shoved in our faces every time we turn on a TV (that's one reason I have little patience with TV programming these days, and seldom watch it).
I read about the research of a historian of WWII who stated that most soldiers would refuse to shoot the enemy unless they were under the direct orders of field commanders who were physically present and barking in the soldiers' ears.
Though humans do have a history of warfare, most men most of the time have a distaste for murdering their brothers. It seems that "a few good psychopaths" are needed to provoke common farmers and auto mechanics and school-teachers to murder.
While I agree completely, I don't share your implied aversion to the Russia-prodding.
The feeb voters will keep the neo-whatever feebs in power. But nukes will eliminate ALL the problems and their causes. It's not like humanity is some noble species deserving of preservation. Cite: look at what our species does. LOOK AT IT. I say, take off, nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. McCain-Clinton 2016!
All these “eyes in the sky” but not a peep, word, data, info, picture, etc., etc. on Malaysia Airlines Flight 17. Sounds like one could just catapult one of those suckers over … oh wait the iron dome like in israel can knock out the homemade missiles so….. wait still doesn’t explain not a peep, word, data, info, picture, etc., etc……….
Which leads one to ask,. did the Ukraine goofballs shoot down a plane they thought was Putin's?
Officially "impossible", hence all the hand-wringing in the Western MSM over "The (Russian-Backed) Rebels Did It!"
Un-official (i.e. non-MSM) sources seem to have a different view on this matter - something to do with both planes following the same initial course. For example -
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e8c_1405625840, http://www.inquisitr.com/1358339/report-vladimir-putins-plane-lapped-mh17-may-have-been-target/,
whereas RT seems to be of the opinion that Board One (Putin's plane) never entered Ukraine airspace - http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/, but they also mention that (from a distance) both Putin's Ilyushin 96 and Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 would have appeared "almost identical", in terms of overall size, shape and markings.
I believe we're still waiting to hear the testimony from the Spanish ATC operator who handled MH17. Must be taking a while to obtain the "correct" translation . . . . .
Quoting Parrotile
"I believe we're still waiting to hear the testimony from the Spanish ATC operator who handled MH17. Must be taking a while to obtain the "correct" translation . . . . ."
...... assuming, of course, that the translator speaks "deadspeak" and is capable of channeling the deceased Spanish ATC operator.
Both planes Malaysian not long after that tribunal found that Israel was guilty of systematic war crimes in Palestine.
Just a coincidence, maybe. but maybe not.
The Hebdo thing, in any event, reeks of an Israeli ff under Bibi and Barak.
Barak on BBC on 9/11... he could not hide his joy, his feeling of... success.
Study body language and microexpressions for just a couple hours. try to watch it slowed down.
Its absolutely clear he was integral to that op.
If it were a game of Chess, Captain Kirk would win.
No way, in the game of chess Captain Kirk and all other Star Trek characters are Lt. Data's bitches. Lt. Data is a chess grand master.
I only up-arrowed you because one of my good friends has the nickname 'Joe Camel'.
Data has a brother, named 'Lore' (as well as a cat, named 'Spot').
Gene Roddenberry always had this idea of putting the story of the puppet Pinnochio and the puppet-master Gepetto to a more 'palatble' set of terms.
Spock used to twist Data's nipples and make him cry like a little girl (since the activation of the 'Emotion Chip').
OCH...
Perhaps, but... I mean "ALL-dimensional Chess." Because Kirk is the best at dealing with the previously-unknown and just-now-discovered dimensions.
Are you speaking of three-dimensional Chess, or the old-school thing?
https://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=AwrTcYL3ITdVaF0ApPIunIl...
Again, I mean "ALL-dimensional Chess." Because Kirk is the best at dealing with the previously-unknown and just-now-discovered dimensions.
Nope, Kirk wins, Data loses.
Because Kirk would step outside the rules.
He'd kick the chess board over and order Data to be recycled for parts.
What if you think it's chess and your opponent thinks it's a MMA cage match?
Meanwhile, in the Middle East:
THIS JUST IN:
Russia confirms that the nuclear weapons they secretly gave Iran last summer are now installed and operational. President Putin confirms that "This should quiet things down a bit in the region!" Saudis are seen to be pulling back, as are their proxies, ISIS. Early conjecture is Vladamir Putin now in the running for TIME Magazine's Man of the Year and there are whispers of even the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE.
NYT
Problem is giving nuclear weapons to a fanatical religious state like Iran and the problem with other fanatical religious states like the US having nuclear weapons is these people are obsessed with bible prophecy despite the fact that bible prophecy is nothing more than the rambling of ancient bronze aged superstitious nutters. Don't underestimate this, these people want destruction because in their minds this will prove their irrational belief.
Only humans can want death and destruction to prove themselves right ! ! ! ! ! !
I believe we are being rapidly selected out of the universes list of viable species.
Ironic thing is I'd trust the Russians with nuclear weapons infinitely more than the US, sorry Israel.
> I believe we are being rapidly selected out of the universes list of viable species.
Maybe just one reason why any reasonably - advanced "alien visitors" might actually want to avoid contact with us - you too would tend to want to avoid "the local crazies" if at all possible.
It would be quite THE irony if it turned out that "we" (who we regard as "advanced") are regarded as decidedly "Short Bus" material by other broadly comparable civilisations. Ironic, but hardly impossible.
We are the laundromat at the end of the universe.
I was thinking more that crazy family at the end of that dirt road no one ever drives down. But yeah...
humans been captured by one of the entities for at least 6500 years now. or 1/4 of a cycle.
Iran is not a bunch of fanatics, otherwise, great post!
En Toto, the PEOPLE of Iran (and the United States, and Russia, and Serbia, and Afghanistan, and Lybia, and the rest of the nations in the entire frikking world) are not FANATIC anythings (religious, patriotic, or anything else).
It's NOT the (massive majority of the) PEOPLE who hold the buttons and the power and the money and the control, though (throughout the world).
A few thousand sociopathic personalities (with a core group of a few hundred) who don't care who lives and who dies are now ensconsed in the places of power in ALL nations.
WHY would an American General and a Russian General come together and write an article such as this? BECAUSE they are still HUMAN; and are in fear of the future of not only THEIR lives, but the lives of loved ones, strangers, people with whom they have emnity; and, in fact, the future of the WHOLE race of HUMANS.
NOW:
Once you identify the issue CORRECTLY (the very real possibility of the eradication of Mankind), it is time to identify CORRECTLY the cause of the PROBLEM (or the SOURCES of the PROBLEM); in order to correctly REMIDIATE the issue.
WHO or WHAT stands to benefit from the THREAT of death of all Mankind (or at least, the majority of us)?
I could start at home, with the '3-letter agencies', and continue to include all the other ones in all the nations across the world, I guess (that rely on private-banking fiat currencies and the promises of continued funding to satisfy the greed and avarice of each individual employee)... but the issue is quite deeper than this. It transends the 3-dimensional 'reality' that you might think is 'all there is'.
There ARE DEVILS, you know. Actually, the word 'devil' refers colloquially to either a spiritual OR corporeal being (OR BOTH; such as a member of the HUMAN RACE, for example) who has sold his/her soul to the TRUE master of the 'power of the AIR' (for the time being; for this so-called 'master'). The GOAL here is to murder ALL Mankind (because of a long-standing feud between him, and the Son of the Creator).
YOU are a 'WHISKEY STILL', and you stand between a Hatfield and a McCoy... That's REALLY oversimplified (and perhaps not understood), I suppose.
EVERYONE worships SOMETHING.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm71Khu5-Lk
I just so happens that those who are NOW in places of power and decisions regarding life are worshipping DEATH and DEGRADATION and ENSLAVEMENT. It's really quite simple, once you realize this FACT.
My best guess is that psychopathy exists as a bell-curve distribution in H. sapiens. If it were different, the "bad guys" would have been eliminated from the species a long time ago by the "good guys".
The "few thousand sociopathic personalities (with a core group of a few hundred)" at the top are very well supported by a few billion at the bottom.
Let me introduce you to American mass sociopathy, or jingoism as it used to be called..
James Fallon is a neuro-scientist who is a genuine psychopath. He wrote a book called "The Psychopath Inside". He tells us that some scientists posit that in psychopathy there is survival value for the individual, such as that they can lie successfully, they have no anxiety or remorse and they maintain lower serum cortisol levels and higher immune system function than normal people. About 2% of any population are psychopaths, Fallon states, across continents, ethnic peoples, and races.
How do psychopaths benefit society? Fallons says they can be strong leaders, they are cool under fire, and their inherent narcissism is needed because leaders have to be full of themselves (a CEO or president needs egotism, glibness, and bullshit to thrive). He points out that Robert Hare (of the "Psychopath Test") sees many psychopaths in finance, banking, and investment and Fallon argues that normal people seem to need to use psychopathic swindlers as hired guns to make money for them. Fallon also states that psychopaths make good warriors, and all societies need soldiers who can kill methodically without fear or pleasure or prejudices that could wax their missions. He even says that psychopathic warriors are less susceptible to PTSD.
So perhaps the 98% of us who are emotional sheep do need to 2% tincture of psychopathy to maintain functional societies.
The revelation this month in GQ magazine that Donald Rumsfeld as Defense Secretary embellished top-secret wartime memos with quotations from the Bible prompts a question. Why did he believe he could influence President Bush by that means?
The answer may lie in an alarming story about George Bush’s Christian millenarian beliefs that has yet to come to light.
In 2003 while lobbying leaders to put together the Coalition of the Willing, President Bush spoke to France’s President Jacques Chirac. Bush wove a story about how the Biblical creatures Gog and Magog were at work in the Middle East and how they must be defeated.
In Genesis and Ezekiel Gog and Magog are forces of the Apocalypse who are prophesied to come out of the north and destroy Israel unless stopped. The Book of Revelation took up the Old Testament prophesy:
Bush believed the time had now come for that battle, telling Chirac:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2009/05/22/bush-god-iraq-and-gog/................................................................................................................................... . Us who have read the New Testament, or at least John's Revelation, know that it states in a verse that 144,000 Jews will be 'taken up' or saved or something to that interpretation, an equal amount from each of the 12 Tribes of Israel during the End of Times. Infact, it does not give the number 144,000 outright, but when you do the math with the numbers provided, which is simple addition, you will come to the total 144,000 even. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread234318/pg1 . The White HouseOffice of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release August 02, 2010 Facts and Figures on Drawdown in Iraq“Let me say this as plainly as I can: by August 31, 2010, our combat mission in Iraq will end.”
- President Barack Obama, Camp Lejeune, February 27, 2009
Troops and Change of Mission
When President Obama took office in January 2009, there were 144,000 U.S. troops in Iraq. https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/facts-and-figures-drawdown-i...
Yes indeed- there are plenty of zionist "christians" who haven't read their Bible. If they had, they would first of all know, based on Galatians chapter 3- that true Christians are the "Israel" spoken of in that Scripture, and no one else. Certainly not the Rothschild creation of modern day "israel."
Secondly- those who actually pay attention to the Bible would have read that Scripture that you quoted in context:
“And when the thousand years are expired"
The context:
Revelation Chapter 20 speaks of a time when Christ rules for 1,000 years. "They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years." Revelation 20:4
It (the thousand years) also is a time when Satan shall be abyssed, and so there will be no evil influence: "And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time." - Revelation 20:1-3
It just goes to show how easily people are decieved.
The days we live in CAN NOT by definition be:
(1) the thousand years when Christ rules.
(1) The same thousand years when Satan is abyssed and there is no deceit in the world.
Rather, Bush, Rumsfield and their ilk fall into the following category:
"No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds." - 2 Corinthians 11:14-15
Yeah but, the Serpent told Eve the Truth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQOL9dXTL8c
If duh yootoob sez soe, it muz bee duh trufe.
Nonsense.
I love it when"duh bible" debunks itself...
Revelations 22:16 - "I Lucifer (aka - Hey Zeus, Bright Morning Star, Jebus, Julius Caesar "JC", Jesus Christ, etc., etc.), have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
Revelation 22:16:
The word "I?sous" is correctly translated "Jesus" (and only Jesus) in the English language- not any of the other words you suggested as variants. See the interlinear here: http://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/22-16.htm
FAIL.
"Lucifer" in the Old Testament is due to a mistranslation in the old King James version ONLY- no other Bible uses that LATIN word "Lucifer" because it did not exist in the HEBREW text of the Old Testament. Subsequent versions of the King James version, including the New King James version corrected that mistake.
http://sanctusvesania.hubpages.com/hub/Jesus-Christ-IS-the-TRUE-Lucifer
FAIL.
Therefore, Jesus is Satan, and a Witch, Hebrews know this.
You obviously have reading comprehension issues.
And "hebrew" is a language, not a race.
PS- Or were you making a subtle reference to the Holy Grail movie? You know the one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onkbubwAqRQ
Maybe so, yet obviously ewe knoweth not of Hebrewland
and "Heblew" is how Obama communicates with Reggie.
It was a race.
That would just go to show an utter lack of faith. If God wants something, he doesn't need a President to make it happen.
Reality check. The Iranian populace are basically just like Americans. Their religious and political leaders, on the other hand, are batshit crazy. And yes, that's just like the US.
If you want to remain ignorant (and you're scoring very highly thus far) that's your choice.
Those of us who actually know what the Bible teaches, however, beg to differ:
"And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, great and small.”- Revelation 19:17-18
How could that occur if there were a worldwide nuclear war?
It can't- that's why you are way off base.
Christians-like their God- love their neighbor, and wish all to be saved.
But that will not happen- free will and all.
Taking single verses out of context won't help your wishful thinking. I'm not going to throw the REST of the Bible at you (all 66 Books), so save your breath in your twisted mis-application of 'scriptural truth'.
Yeah, a third of Mankind will be murdered in the days to come, and 'Mystery, Babylon' will be destroyed in 'the space of less than an hour' in the SAME book that you are trying to justify your 'fly-away' 'replacement Jerusalem' escatology with.
v.1) Judas hung himself from a tree.
v.2) Jesus said, 'Go ye therefore, and do likewise.'
(Don't make me give you the Chapter and Verse of these 'scriptures')
HMMM. something about 'flying in mid-air' really makes me think of the TRUE DEFINITION of the term 'midair'. i suppose that you think that this REALLY has something to do with the Earth's atmosphere.
Well, OBVIOUSLY, when people die, they don't become 'angels', because people cannot 'stand in the Sun'. If you doubt the truth, there's a rocket launch scheduled for this minor star. I would gather that if I were a man, and saw an Angel standing IN the Sun, I probably would be somewhat closer than 93,000,000 miles away (my eyes aren't that good, you know. Are YOURS?).
HMMM. THIS must mean that I (the man seeing the Angel standing IN the SUN) must be somewhere ELSE than 'on Earth', perhaps in the 'mid-air' between the Earth and the Sun (and this throws your denial theory of a nuclear conflaguration out the window).
If you get a Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, you can look up the literal translations of the words you are trying to use to make your erroneous argument.
How about the 'ig-pay atin-lay' shit like 'Hoc Est Corpus Miem'? This is the place from whence children became desensitized, and played 'priest' in the Dark Ages, and coined the MAJICKAL phrase 'Hocus-Pocus'. Of course, Jesus spoke HEBREW and ARAMAIC, NOT LATIN, but don't tell the collating people within YOUR 'church' about this discrepancy. HERE, let me take ANOTHER 'scripture' out of context...
v.3) Eat, drink, and be merry; for tomorrow, we shall surely live!
You do not understand what I wrote, and furthermore, you are reading an awful lot into my post. My post is not erroneous in any way.
I am fully studied on Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic, and refer to Interlinear versions frequently.
You do not know me, do you?
Then cast your aspersions elsewhere- I am a student of Scripture for nearly 5 decades, and have written, instructed, and researched the Bible during that entire period.
And the only Church I belong to is the body of Christ.
PS- You are all over the place in your post- is that the drugs, or is it the alcohol, that is clouding your mind? You mention Judas hanging himself, and then- completely unrelated- you bring up "do likewise"- which is not referring to suicide, but mercy. (Luke 10:37) In closing, here's a Scripture that is very applicable to you: "So it is with you. Unless you speak intelligible words with your tongue, how will anyone know what you are saying? You will just be speaking into the air." - 1 Corinthians 14:9
That's you, to a "T".
Wow.
5 decades of study, research and learning, and all you can do is quote other people.
I can say "I don't believe you" and you have no answer, and no observable proof. Scriptures are anecdotal evidence at best. They prove nothing. Fancy words from a bygone era that can be interpreted in many ways.
Everything boils down to faith. Faith that what happened really happened, that what was spoken was written down verbatim, that what was translated was translated correctly, that no one, at any time during the whole process from then to now made up anything, or embellished anything, or omitted anything... you know, things that humans have been doing since they were created.
God couldn't have made sure none of that ever happened, because humans have free will... right?
The whole thing is a circular, self fulfilling prophecy.
Imagine for a moment, if you had spent your life devoted to making this reality a better place for all who dwell here, rather than focused on achieving something in the next. Many people have, and one thing I do believe is that if your religion is even partway right, it will be those people who recieve gods glory way before people like you do.
I'm sure there is a scripture about that in your books somewhere.
Experts in a given field are expected to provide citations. This I have done. Had I not done so, you would have asked for citations.
There's good reason for faith in the Bible and its teachings. I have provided that in this thread and others- fulfilled prophecy, candor, etc.
There is nothing fictional about the Bible.
The 66 books of the Bible were written:
On three continents.
In three languages.
By about 40 different people (kings, shepherds, prophets, an army general, fishermen, priests, physician, etc).
Over a period of about 1,500 years.
On the most controversial subjects.
By people who, in most cases, had never met.
By authors whose education and background varied greatly.
Yet it tells a completely cohesive story, all based on the same theme, of mankind’s fall, and the Love God showed by sending His son as a sacrifice to buy the souls of all men wishing to be redeemed.
And what is required to be redeemed?
“For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” – John 3:16
Only a book breathed by God could meet the above criteria, and there is no other book like it.
It is The Word of God.
Fulfilled Prophecy:
It is not only completely coherent, it prophesied ~600 years in advance every thing that Christ would accomplish, in Isaiah 53: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+53
There are hundreds of other prophecies that He fulfilled, as well: http://www.accordingtothescriptures.org/prophecy/353prophecies.html
Not to mention all the other prophecies that foretold in advance what would occur in what was then the future, take Daniels prophecy of Alexander the Great: https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/869-amazing-prophecy-in-the-bo...
It also accurately foretold many events hundreds or even thousands of years beforehand, the times we are living in, for example- yes- the end times, all going as foretold.
Proof that the integrity of the scriptures has been preserved:
It is a well researched and attested to fact that the Bible has been copied accurately and faithfully. On the integrity of the New Testament:
“As with all the previously published New Testament papyri (127 of them, published in the last 116 years), not a single new reading has commended itself as authentic. Instead, the papyri function to confirm what New Testament scholars have already thought was the original wording or, in some cases, to confirm an alternate reading—but one that is already found in the manuscripts” - http://www.dts.edu/read/wallace-new-testament-manscript-first-century/
And all are in agreement with one another. The standard practice is to ensure that modern translations adhere to these earliest copies of the papyri. We therefore know that they are faithful replications of what occurred in the first century.
http://www.bible.ca/ef/topical-the-earliest-new-testament-manuscripts.htm
https://carm.org/manuscript-evidence
The Old Testament is just as well preserved as the New Testament.
So there is no "problem" with the integrity of the Bible.
Another reason why the Bible can be beleved- its absolute CANDOR:
It does not attempt to paint a rosy picture of most men- in fact, only a mere handful of the Kings of Israel and Judah were spoken of as "good," and even they had their foibles commited to writing. Jesus' own Apostles had huge faults- and they are all attested to in writing.
If you really wanted to learn something, you would read the links I provided, but you won't because you are close minded, even when your life is at stake you will stubbornly hold to your willfully ignorant views.
As for original thoughts, there is nothing new under the sun, as Solomon said long ago. (Ecc 1:9)
By all means don't let that get in the way of your mental masturbation, your ego stroking, though.
What are your thoughts on the fact that the Egyptians, the greatest record keepers of their day, with an extensive intact hieroglyphic history that has very little timeline holes has no mention of the Jews being slaves or the curses and the exodus of the Jews? Given the various records they kept regarding so many different aspects of their lives, one would assume that with such a large event that it would have been written about.
http://creation.mobi/egyptian-history-and-the-biblical-record-a-perfect-...
I bet you are a person who claims that the writings of Jospehus are evidence of Jesus' existence even though the section which describes Jesus was found to be a forgery added hundreds of years later than when Jospehus was alive.
http://www.gotquestions.org/evidence-ten-plagues.html
Your scholarship is suspect since, inter alia, you are some kind of dispensationalist protestant type (not renowned for scholarship so much as sophistry and pharasaism), and/or in any event... don't appear to understand that Revelation was absolutely, positively symbolic literature in the Jewish tradition regarding Ceasar's Rome and events of the first century AD.
There is simply no question about it.
And if you read the 'other' books of the bible, and the gnostics, youd know Jesus of Nazareth was likely a symbolic device, representing the Essenes as against the Pharisees, who totally hijacked and remade Judaism, although on a Torah foundation replete with racialism, violence, xenophobia and the like.
But Revelation was about events of the first 90/120 years of the CE. If you don't know this, one wonders what other armageddon-craving nonsense you've accepted.
Yeesh, guy.
Nice strawman ya built there.
Dispensationalist?
You've aptly demonstrated how little you have read what I've posted.
Your inclusion of known apocrypha further demonstrates your lack of knowledge on the subject of Christianity.
And your preterist interpretation of Revelation is easily proven false- chapters 18, 19, 20 and 21 alone do so.
Or perhaps Revelation is a book bout history repeating itself . especially when ti comes to corrupt, decadent, aggressive, violent empires . most of which end the same way .. collapsing from within as the barbarians invade from without.
Don't you love free will...until someone else's free will craps all over you
A lot of great things can arise from cooperative/consensual free will too.
Not everybody chooses economies of scale to perpetrate evil.
To cite one of the russian posters here, you know nothing! I mean it and you know it. You like to BELIEVE that you know something but you are incapable of KNOWING if a thing IS or IS NOT. Stop being dumb, pick up the BIBLE and LEARN something, start by reading it then use the imperfect tools at your disposal (brain and reason) to accept the truth. I bet your ego (pride = stupidity) won't allow it but i'm doing my duty and pointing you in the right direction as the current path you're on leads to doom. Wake up from your teenage rebellion and grow up!
THIS JUST IN
Iran figures out that Putin only looking to use Iran, and the Ayatolla Ruhollah Khomeini
orders a hit on Putin, ultimtely tuning to lauchnng missles to give the kremlin nuclear enema....ooooooo wee What's up with dat?"
Nuke nuke ISIS now now.
I suspect that not even you know what you meant by that flaccid satire.
Putin bad, US good about cover it? Something like that maybe?
Or was that missive the combined result of your many cats running across the keyboard, as you languidly hit the odd key whilst wiping Cheetos crumbs off your beer gut?
You're entitled to your own opinions, Miss, but you are not entitled to fuck those poor cats.
THIS JUST IN!
Cheney challenges Putin to a cage match.
Cheney says, "ha ha we always say we are fighting all over the world to bring democracy to the world, but when Iranians got democracy, we funded a coup and put in a dictator, "Shah-Nuff" Reza Pahlavi. Then, when Iranians finally kicked out the Shah, we sold Saddam Hussein, next door in Iraq, mustard gas to mass-murder Iranians with, and gave him our spy satellite data to tell him where to find them. But then our Kuwaiti clients got greedy and slant-drilled into Saddam's oil fields, and Saddam asked us if he could invade them. so we said, "sure!", and when he did, we mass-murdered Saddam's green recruits and then bombed Iraq for another 10 years and also "sanctioned" so Iraq couldn't buy any oil well equipment, and then when we got bored of that, we screamed that Saddam had mustard gas, and invaded and hanged him for having the mustard gas we sold him. And then we bombed Iraq for another 10 years, which has been fun. Now, we are paying Saddam's Sunni successors, ISIS, and then we are also bombing them, because, well, that's fun. Putin could NEVER get away with sh*t like this, for as long as this.
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fuck off
Eat a bag of dicks!
Too late, the blue touch paper has already been lit - it is only a matter of time.
I cannot stand the Bushes or the Clintons or the NeoCons and obola but Bush had a good relationship with Putin. They got on well.
Were the Neo-Z-Cons and Neo-z-Libs still on a leash under Bush? What changed?
Where is the scum media now? Obola and his Soros and other z-puppetmaters have nuke war cranked up and the z(m)edia is silent.
I suggest it's just good cop bad cop shit, what else can you think.
Duck and cover. ..
If the West provokes a Russian attack (or retaliation for a prior NATO attack), it'll be more "roast" duck, courtesy of genuine Russian "canned sunshine"! Replace the traditional tin-foil with lead sheeting, and maybe, just maybe . . . . . .
the fucking Russians are the WORLD'S GREATEST LAND-GRABBERS; THEIR TRACK RECORD ECLIPSES ALL WESTERN NATIONS COMBINED!!!
Could you speak louder, we can't hear you!
Wow. The Spanish and Portuguese seized all of South and Central America. Doesn't that beat the Russians?
And how about the United Kingdom, seizing India and Canada and South Africa and Rhodesia and Australia and lots more? If one counts "square miles seized per square mile in country doing the seizing", wouldn't UK win?
Also, which countries count as "western"? Is Russia western or eastern?
Don't forget that the UK had a good portion of what's now the USSA.
How do you determine which words or letters to capitalize? I mean, you start the sentence with "the" but chose hold off on the all caps even though "fucking" would have been a great opportunitiy to go ahead and let it rip?
Teach me your ways. Salah.
What about the celibate ones?
I'm sorry you had a crappy financial advisor too.
We all make mistakes.
Just keep it "in the hood" and everything will be fine.
The launch code was. 00000000. Being that simple tells enough
The verified and discovered code was 123456789 until 2012.
The current code? why would I NOT be surprised if it had been changed to 987654321 (purely on the basis of past history! :-) )
"What does this button do, Reggie?"
"I think it turns on the lights, Munchkins."
Well, some folks pushed a few buttons....
Is this the one you mean?? http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-54334793715728/do-not-press-the-big-red-button-3.png
They should be worrried, a bunch of humaity hating Satanist Oligarchs are trying to trick us all into killing ourselves off. They believe they are children of Lucifer and we are children of Adam and therefore superior, and we are not fit to live on and consume resources of THEIR earth.
I don't know if we can stop them, but you can still save yourself and you start preparing now, you still have a few years left. Here's their plan:
http://www.worldaffairsbrief.com/keytopics/threats.html
Here's a little monument they built telling you their goals:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones
Note this goal, remembering we're at about 7 billion right now:
Also be aware that the type of governemt of this new world won't be anything resembling freedom, think more brave new world/1984.
Maybe it can be stopped if enough people know..
I would also note that these generals are advocating an end to launch on warning, which put the US at a distinct disadvantage since most of our missles are in fixed silos and would be destroyed on impact, and russia/china's ICBMS are mobile, which fits Skousen's analysis, which is to destroy the US and fill the void with a Globalist government.
You aare forgetting about the sea launched BMs in the many nuclear submarines around the world. Those alone could totally devestate the world as we know it.
The world as I knew it has already been destroyed......
"Grandpa, tells us about the days when whales once swam in the oceans and birds flew in the sky."
Except that under the START arms reduction treaty we've been unilaterally disarming, without verifying what Russia does.
Also, START does not cover China which has been secretly arming itself like crazy.
http://nuclearforces.org/country-profiles/united-states
Gee SMG, are you a card carrying neocon? The crap you link and post comes dire ctly from their fucking mouths.
No, I despise the Neocons, but reality is reality. If we have disarmed, and Russia/China have built overwhemlming nuclear forces, then we at some point in the US will have to deal with that reality.
u Hey look the neocons spent 40 bil on a missile defense system, here's what we got:
$40-BILLION MISSILE DEFENSE SYSTEM PROVES UNRELIABLE
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-missile-defense-20140615-story.html#...
And so you see the US is being set up for destruction, ala France WWII.
You are right about that. Sorry for associating you with any neocons, I really didnt think you were in that sort of grouping.
Yeah man we have disarmed. The US can only blow up the world 500 times over vs. 5000.
</sarc>
The idea that those in power don't have their fingers up the asses of virtually every political puppet available, to me is almost ludricous. I have predicted over 25 years ago that nuclear war probably was called off due to economics. What was still on. A dumb fuck biochemist who makes a new genetically modified organism that then causes unintended consequences and can't be 'recalled'.
The end of the world doesn't happen in a nuclear flash but probably occurs as a result of manufactured plague released by a biochemical labratory. But hey the bible may have it right, might take a few things including nuclear war to get 7B down to 500M as humans seem to be a resilient bunch.
cheers,
OldE_Ant
Nuclear war as a strategic option seems to be less clear than during the Cold War. The national infrastructure is wholly dependent upon the Internet, and even the electricity generated is itself now dependent upon the Internet. The US economy has become so centralized that any break within the chain of production which includes transportation, puts at least 200 million in immediate jeopardy inside of one week of any disruption.
An EMP and/or hacking event doesn't have to destroy everything, just cause breaks in the command and control of the economy and information dissemination.
The question in my mind in recent years is how does the US Gov't react to an EMP or hacking strike event? Do the decision makers (What are the think tanks writing about this) liken such an attack on par with a nuclear strike, and secondly what kind of real time ability to track and assign responsibility is possible?
And of course, hacking has become a proxy war; just like the alphabet soup of AllahWarriors promoting their cause, rather than being able to hold a recognized gov't responsible. Have you read about Europe dismantling AM and FM transmissions? Completely dependent on digital streaming. What happens there invariably comes the US now. It is insane to rely completely on the Internet.
"1.Our hopes for recalling the 843rd. bomb wing are quickly being reduced to very low order of probability."
"There's no fighting in the war room"
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room!", along with "the whole point of a Doomsday Device is lost if you keep it a secret - we were planning to announce it at the Party Conference on Tuesday"
Unfortunately the likes of Kubrick, Sellers and co. are long gone, and this time around the risk is really "for real" . . . .
Fail Safe (1964) with Henry Fonda is an even more poingnant reality check anti nuke statement without the satire of Dr. Strangelove (1964). It was dead serious the whole way through, everybody was sane and it still went wrong.
Favorite aftermath movie .. On the Beach .. the scene when Gregory Peck the sub commander takes the sub out for the last time to scuttle it because everone is dying of radiation......slowly but surely .. . haunts me. AS for satire movies.. . The RUssians are Coming, The ussians are Coming still cracks me up.
it gives me great comfort that obama, a chicagi, jive hack, is on the watch. i will be able to sleep every night. maybe his wall st friends can recieve justice when they light up the sky over nyc.
The people that have the highest concentration of wealth should be arrested to prevent a nucear holocaust.
What a farce this claim is but to show you just a small part of how Texas let alone the U.S./EU is in bed with Russia
Riverwood Solutions of Plano Texas Opens Software Devt. Center in St Petersburg Russia
After Texas-based Schlumberger Buys Into Russian Oil Firm……It Lays Off 20k People
Russia’s Roman Abramovich Invests $15M In Texas Propell Technologies (Fracking)
Global Ties Of Renewables Like Penwall Corp of Texas Highlighted At HydroVision Russia 2015
Putin Gives ‘Order of Friendship’ Award to Rosneft Norwegian Partners….Gratitude to Haliburton, ExxonMobil, Schlumberger
Lover patented always said this would go to Armageddon and Kiki is all on board with that as with both of them it was the same way in my bedroom.... This is just a world view from my bedsheets of their evil intentions upon me since nothing better can be had like privacy.
Yawn... It's more fun. When they threaten nuclear blown up hoods for all those who dare to short th market as they did recently and I was like oh I'm here and this is where the bombs r falling so this is where they don't want me to be so.... HUH is THIS WHAT I SHOULNT BE DOING?
Yea and what else should I not be doing?????
Y'all didn't see all that go down as other peeps did....
Have some fun: http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
Nukes come in all sizes... The use of these so-called, "Tactical/Battlefield" nukes might prove too tempting to the Assholes from WarsRus.gov to resist if caught in a bind?
Things could easily escalate from there! In my opinion, the worst evil may not be the scale of destruction of the 'conventional' nuke or Hydrogen bomb, but the scaling down to "tactical" size, no?
The Davy Crockett
Compact and nasty - http://www.damninteresting.com/davy-crockett-king-of-the-atomic-frontier/
Problem is if your forces are planning to advance, then that 48 hour delay may prove a real headache (unless the soldiers are deemed "expendable", which would hardly be unexpected seeing as Washington's involved!)
Helps with that immigration problem.
Exactly!
Those Generals are still caught up in a Cold War mentality, talking about 'missles' while these things can be lobbed out there with a slingshot...
"You're gonna have to answer to the Coca Cola company..."
EMP attack would be far worse for the USA www.prepsite.org
EMP isn't even necessary...a cyber attack on the grid would be just as effective without the corresponding destruction of electronics or the potential for nuclear retalitation.
30 days without electricity and the U.S...the world as we know it ceases to exist.
Fukushima is so toxic they need to stage a nuclear war in order to account for the increased radiation levels and mass die offs. Pass it on.....
But is there anyone that wants nuclear war? I mean, everyone would suffer including the elites right? Sure, they are psychopaths and want to reduce the population, but they are also control freaks, and I don't think they could control a nuclear world war. And if they don't want it, would they allow it to happen?
The people who control the people that control the government of the USA are more criminally insane than can be fully comprehended!
"We Ionized some folks"
LOL! ... A macabre sense of humour is the only psychological defense mechanism that I am aware of to attempt to cope with the real world preparing to commit collective suicide ... Too bad that my own macabre sense of humour is almost worn out from over use.
MAD Money As Debt, backed by MAD Mutual Assured Destruction, manifesting as globalized electronic monkey money frauds, backed by the threat of force from apes with atomic bombs. The combined money/murder systems exist because the debt controls are backed by the death controls. The history of Neolithic Civilizations have always been based upon being able to back up lies with violence, which became more sophisticated systems of legalized backed by legalized violence.
The central problem is that our political economy is based on ENFORCING FRAUDS, which situation exists because of the historical development of governments as the biggest form of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gang of criminals, which currently happen to be the banksters. For more than a Century, the powers of the government of the USA have been effectively privatized, in ways that automatically got worse, faster. Indeed, the whole history of Neolithic Civilization has been the exponential growth in the ability to be dishonest and back that up with violence. The only thing that has changed has been due to progress in physical science, enabling technologies like electronics and atomic energy, which then were primarily employed to become globalized electronic frauds, backed by the threat of atomic bombs.
Money is measurement backed by murder. That is the most abstract form of private property being based on backing up claims with coercions. For thousands of years, it was possible to be socially successful by backing up lies with violence. The history of successful warfare was based on being able to be deceitful and treacherous. The War Kings that survive through that history made the sovereign states, whose powers were covertly captured by the Fraud Kings, the banksters. Their psychological and political habits are morbidly based on continuing to do that more than ever before!
The international banksters control the government the USA, as is plainly obvious to anyone who looks at who really controlled the American Dollar. The American Military backs up the American Dollar, as systems of enforced frauds. The power of the American Military is deployed to protect the banksters' frauds. That is the context in which the conflicts between the USA and Russia are actually playing through. The ruling classes were selected to be who they are, behave like they do, by thousands of years of social successes based on backing up deceits with destruction, and enforcing frauds. All of the significant world events are various aspects of attempts to consolidate the global hegemony over the monetary systems, which in turn enables symbolic control over natural resources.
There is nothing in human history to compare to the development of weapons of mass destruction, and therefore, nothing in the habits of the ruling classes, nor those that they rule over, which can cope with weapons of mass destruction becoming trillions of times more powerful. Backing up lies with violence, and enforcing frauds, worked all too well for thousands of years of human history. Hence, nothing in the established systems has ever had to face the facts that that might stop working. Technologies such as electronics and atomic energy were directed to be developed through social pyramid systems based on being able to back up lies with violence. That those technologies had become may orders of magnitude more capable and powerful, so far, has done nothing to change the ways that those technologies were being developed primarily to continue to ENFORCE FRAUDS.
In fact, every decision that has directed my adult life can be traced back to worrying about the existence of weapons of mass destruction. After learning more and more about these issues for several decades, I find that their evil absurdities and runway criminal insanities continue to have no way to be resolved. The best an individual can maybe do is be able to still be amused at the ways that the human species is preparing to commit collective suicide. It is practically impossible to have any rational public debates about any of these issues.
There is almost nothing but a core of organized crime, surrounded by controlled opposition groups, both of which stay within the same frame of reference of the biggest bullies' bullshit world view, which is as backward and absurd as it possibly can be, because it was developed through thousands of years of social successes based on being able to back up lies with violence, so that almost nobody born into those systems, and mostly taking them for granted, can actually imagine what it means that being able to enforce frauds would stop being successful
The dominant social systems are terminally sick and insane, due to the prolonged elaboration of the contradictions that being able to back up lies with violence never makes those lies stop being false. However, each increment of additional social successes based on being able to continue to enforce frauds reinforces those who achieved that sort of success to do that even more so next time. Hence, the current situations of MADNESS have resulted in every sociopolitical institution being dominated by the best available professional liars and immaculate hypocrites. Moreover, that is just as valid an observation about those running the established systems of organized crime as it is regarding those in the controlled opposition groups to that organized crime.
Every since I was a teenager, I have been very worried that the political systems I was born into were based upon attempting to promote endless exponential growth by backing that up with weapons of mass destruction. I have done all that I could to try to understand, and figure out what what was really happening. It became obvious that the FUNDING OF THE POLITICAL PROCESSES were the places where the maximum leverage existed regarding the ways that the combined money/murder systems operated, which were the actual mechanisms behind how and why the monetary system and national security system had become runway psychotic state religions, based on the maximum possible frauds and deceits.
I spent several decades focusing my efforts upon the issuing regarding the funding of the political processes. However, after doing all that, the only thing which I can identify as a consistent theme is that the more I learned, the worse it got. Apart from some personal psychological coping mechanisms to develop a macabre sense of humour to be able to laugh at the criminal insanities that civilization has developed, I am not aware of any other ways to cope with more fully comprehending that MADNESS.
Great post as always RM!
MOH recipient Marine Corps General Smedley Butler on war .. speech in 1933 ...
Yes, all over, nations are camping in their arms. The mad dogs of Europe are on the loose. In the Orient the maneuvering is more adroit. Back in 1904, when Russia and Japan fought, we kicked out our old friends the Russians and backed Japan. Then our very generous international bankers were financing Japan. Now the trend is to poison us against the Japanese. What does the "open door" policy to China mean to us? Our trade with China is about $90,000,000 a year. Or the Philippine Islands? We have spent about $600,000,000 in the Philippines in thirty-five years and we (our bankers and industrialists and speculators) have private investments there of less than $200,000,000.
Then, to save that China trade of about $90,000,000, or to protect these private investments of less than $200,000,000 in the Philippines, we would be all stirred up to hate Japan and go to war – a war that might well cost us tens of billions of dollars, hundreds of thousands of lives of Americans, and many more hundreds of thousands of physically maimed and mentally unbalanced men.
Of course, for this loss, there would be a compensating profit – fortunes would be made. Millions and billions of dollars would be piled up. By a few. Munitions makers. Bankers. Ship builders. Manufacturers. Meat packers. Speculators. They would fare well.
Yes, they are getting ready for another war. Why shouldn't they? It pays high dividends.
But what does it profit the men who are killed? What does it profit their mothers and sisters, their wives and their sweethearts? What does it profit their children?
What does it profit anyone except the very few to whom war means huge profits?
"What does it profit anyone except the very few to whom war means huge profits?"
A tiny percentage of those huge profits, persistently applied, is what it took to make sure that enough of the political processes were corrupted, so that the combination of the resulting political puppets, voted for by enough of the masses of muppets, continued to make even more politically powerful "the very few to whom war means huge profits," in vicious feedback loops, which have automatically gotten worse, faster, especially since those who make those huge profits also use false flag attacks and/or assassinations in order to advance their agenda.
You are right. Washington DC in the year 2015 is infested with an insane cabal of Zionists. They hold absolute power in Washington and they are not sane. When you believe you are god's chosen, then anything is possible. We Americans allowed this cabal to take our nation away from us and to rule us using cops, spies and armies. If you are an American and think you have a say in government, you are as insane as the cabal of Zionists.
In every significant way, Canada is practically the 51st state of the USA. All of the political parties represented in the Canadian Parliament operate inside of the bullshit world view which was promoted by the Canadian mass media ... Here is another example of the degree to which the current Canadian Prime Minister is a CRIMINALLY INSANE LIAR, (who also happens to be another Crazy Christian Zionist.)
http://pm.gc.ca/eng/news/2015/03/18/statement-prime-minister-canada-one-year-after-crimean-referendum-and-russian
Statement by the Prime Minister of Canada one year after the Crimean “referendum” and Russian annexation of Crimea
"... Whether it takes five months or 50 years, Canada will never recognize this annexation as being the genuine will of the Ukrainian people. We have instead maintained our call that the Putin regime cease the destabilization campaign it has orchestrated and fully withdraw from Crimea and eastern Ukraine. ..."
In the 'real' world of Canadian politics, the Conservative government gets away with Huge Lies. Their LIES about the Ukrainian situation, demonizing Putin and Russia, are almost totally supported by the Canadian mass media. From the point of view of Practical Politics, I can only wait and watch as the international banksters' agenda to PICK FIGHTS with Russia becomes WORSE RUNAWAY CRIMINAL INSANITIES!
This comes as no surprise. Canadian government are full of liars. But this is such a simple task to put Harper in his place and I am surprised no one has done it yet.
All you have to do is ask him: "How does the Crimeans feel?" and then if he responds he doesn't know, state "Go find out, send news crew and himself, work along with other news groups in region to find out" which he will deny saying that he isn't allowed to and ask "Have you tried? How do we know you are not allowed to?" and so on. State that what former Japanese PM said, and what plenty others said, it seems quiet and peaceful in Crimea. But not in the rest of Ukraine. If he states Russia instigated the problems, ask "Where is the evidence? please show it" and "well, I have a list of political oppositions getting murdered in Kiev. So how can we trust what Kiev is saying?". Pretty much Harpers head would explode and so would majority of the media mougals.
He doesn't need to recognize Crimea, I don't think any Crimean will give a crap or two what a two bit dictator like Harper thinks or even the rest of Canada. This country has fallen to the hands of the Americans pretty quickly and without a raise of a stink. I will move from this country to somewhere else when the time is right. Heck, if C-51 bill passes, I may ask for refugee status to someplace else.
I agree, Miketheterrible, that anyone who was a regular reader of Zero Hedge would know that what you are saying is indubitably correct. However, as long as the American and Canadian mass media continue to be able to be politically dominant, then the kinds of huge lies that those sources of misinformation promote are still politically effective, within the USA and Canada.
I doubt that Harper is human.
Seriously.
According to Divinecosmos.com there is and has been a space war taking place. The research and case they make is compelling and ultimately a positive message for humanity.
Metaphorically speaking, people like Harper appear to have too little compassion to be classified as "human," in the sense of humane.
P.S.
I have looked at a lot of David Willcock's material, and I have enjoyed that ... However, I find him way too unreasonably optimistic.
And Americans do not think they are god's chosen ones?
Their name is Saxe-Coburg & sons.
Was assuaging guilt by electing an affirmatively trained dimwit to prevent Armageddon a wise choice? The great delusion of mankind is trust in a god's benevolent providence with that god's divine selection of our leaders.
Trust and hope are delusions.
Recommends removing the practice sessions for an activity that could end the world, with the thought that removing the practice sessions might reduce the probability of a real activity session?
What does this dork think that the military wakes up some morning decides to nuke Russia??? Would the friggin politicians at least have a part in the process?
That makes about as much sense as equating Putin taking his shirt off as a sign of detent.
From the mid-1980s, two videos re launch on warning dangers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRvJWlJTghc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv8QiQux4FE
Those FLASHBACKS to 1985 were what I was thinking in the 1980s ...
Tim Tebow was hired by the Eagles.
It's a sign of the apocalypse.
Goodbye Philadelphia!
Did they fire Joe Walsh?