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Why Europe Lets People Drown
Submitted by Raul Ilargi Meijer via The Automatic Earth blog,
That Europe let almost 1000 people die in the Mediterranean in one night shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone, at least not to those who are still occasionally awake. The Club Med migrant crisis has been going on for a long time, and the EU’s only reaction to it has been to slash its budget and operations in the area, not to expand them.
So when the New York Times opens with “European leaders were confronted on Monday with a humanitarian crisis in the Mediterranean..”, they’re a mile and a half less than honest. Brussels has known what was going on for years, and decided to do less than nothing.
The onus was put on Italy, Malta, Greece and a handful of private compassionate activists to handle the situation, as if it was some sort of local, or even tourist, issue, while Europe’s finest went back to festive gala openings of their €1 billion+ ‘official’ edifices, and back to forcing more austerity on member nations. Somebody has to pay for those buildings.
The EU took over rescue operations from Italy late last year and promptly cut the budget by two-thirds. Saving migrant lives was deemed just too expensive. You don’t survive in European politics if you don’t get your priorities straight.
On March 8, I wrote ‘Europe, The Morally Bankrupt Union’, and things have only deteriorated from there. If the international press, and various world leaders, wouldn’t have called them out over the weekend, the Brussels class would still not do a thing about the migrant drama, and would still feel comfortable hiding behind the factoid that most migrants drown outside European waters.
In their meeting on Monday, a bunch of EU interior and foreign ministers once again didn’t reach any meaningful conclusions; it’ll be up to presidents and prime ministers to do this on Thursday. One might almost hope for another huge tragedy before that date, just so the cynical hypocrisy that rules Europe would be exposed once again for all to see. From my March 8 piece:
To its south, the EU faces perhaps its most shameful -or should that be ‘shameless’? – problem, because it doesn’t do anything about it: the thousands of migrants who try to cross the Mediterranean to get to Europe but far too often perish in the process. The Italians spend themselves poor, trying to save as many migrants as they can (170,000 last year!), and there are private citizens – Americans even – pouring in millions of dollars, but the EU itself has zero comprehensive policy as people keep dying on its doorstep all the time. The official line out of Brussels is that the EU polices only the European coastline, but the drownings mostly take place off the Lybian coast. At least Italy and others do sail there to alleviate the human misery.
And now the problem threatens to expand into a whole new and additional dimension, with Muslim extremists like ISIS set to travel alongside the migrants to gain entry into Europe with the aim of launching terror attacks. Having turned a blind eye to the issue for years, Europe will now find itself woefully unprepared for this new development. Still, expect more bluster and brute force where there was never any reason or need for it. That the EU’s MO today.
And whaddaya know: brute force it is.
EU To Launch Military Operations Against Migrant-Smugglers In Libya
The EU is to launch military operations against the networks of smugglers in Libya deemed culpable of sending thousands of people to their deaths in the Mediterranean. An emergency meeting of EU interior and foreign ministers in Luxembourg on Monday, held in response to the reported deaths of several hundred migrants in a packed fishing trawler off the Libyan coast at the weekend, also decided to bolster maritime patrols in the Mediterranean and give their modest naval mission a broader search-and-rescue mandate for saving lives. A summit of EU leaders is to take place in Brussels on Thursday to hammer out the details of the measures hurriedly agreed on Monday. [..]
The meeting “identified some actions” aimed at combatting the trafficking gangs mainly in Libya, such as “destroying ships”, Mogherini said. Dimitris Avramopoulos, the European commissioner for migration issues, said the operation would be “civil-military” modelled on previous military action in the Horn of Africa to combat Somali piracy. The military action would require a UN mandate. No detail was supplied on the scale and range of the proposed operation, nor of who would take part in it. But European leaders from David Cameron to Angela Merkel and Matteo Renzi, the Italian prime minister, were emphatic on Monday in singling out the fight against the migrant traffickers as the top priority in the attempt to rein in a crisis that is spiralling out of control.
That not everyone on this planet has completely lost their sense of moral values doesn’t count for much if those who have none left are time and again ‘elected’ to the highest posts. But still:
[..] Save the Children accused the EU of dithering as children drowned, after they failed to agree immediate action to set up a European search and rescue operation in the Mediterranean
Save the Children CEO Justin Forsyth said: “What we needed from EU foreign ministers today was life-saving action, but they dithered. The emergency summit on Thursday is now a matter of life and death. “With each day we delay we lose more innocent lives and Europe slips further into an immoral abyss. Right now, people desperately seeking a better life are drowning in politics. We have to restart the rescue – and now.”
That is very true. But drowning in politics is precisely what the EU elite, as well as Cameron, Merkel and Renzi have made a career of. They would like nothing better than to drown everyone around them in it too, and they certainly would feel no qualm about a few nameless and faceless poor sods their voters may not have enough sympathy for to give them a slice of moldy bread.
Ironic, since, as Patrick Boyle rightly remarks today: “We fear the arrival of immigrants that we have drawn here with the wealth we stole from them.” But that may never be recognized.
Instead of making sanity heard, Europe’s leaders grow more wary by the day of the potential electoral losses that may result from the growing xenophobia spreading around the continent. Politics is a calculated game ruled exclusively by the lowest common denominator. Not by morals.
But of course, they still know how to talk the talk, as the BBC reports :
EU foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini said the 10-point package set out at talks in Luxembourg was a “strong reaction from the EU to the tragedies” and “shows a new sense of urgency and political will”. “We are developing a truly European sense of solidarity in fighting human trafficking – finally so.” [..]
That Europe has the guts to say such things says a lot about who their audience is: the vast majority are people who are not paying any attention, who don’t give a damn, or who think the fewer Africans make it to Europe, the better.
In a functioning democratic system, you would say throw out those who failed, let them as it used to be called “face the consequences of their actions”, but Brussels has no such system. Mogherini should obviously be put out by the curb, since the final political responsibility for the tragedy is hers, but she won’t go.
And there is certainly no mechanism for throwing out the leaders of the various member governments. Other, perhaps, than elections that are mostly years away, by which time their disgraceful behavior will have either long been forgotten or overshadowed by ‘more important’ issues like road building, gasoline taxes and pension cuts.
Maltese Prime Minister Joseph Muscat said Sunday’s disaster off Libya was “a game changer”, adding: “If Europe doesn’t work together history will judge it very badly.”
No worries, Mr. Muscat, history will judge the EU very badly regardless of what it does from here on in, and for many reasons. Homicidal negligence is but one of many.
Meanwhile Martin Schulz, apparently not the fastest cookie in the jar, volunteers to indict himself:
Martin Schulz, the president of the European Parliament, expressed dismay at what he characterized as European apathy over the migration crisis. “How many more people will have to drown until we finally act in Europe?” he asked in a statement. “How many times more do we want to express our dismay, only to then move on to our daily routine?”
Indeed, Mr. Schulz, how many more times will you? I’m thinking, if given a chance, you will do just that a lot more times. And I don’t hear anyone calling for your resignation, so you would seem to be off the hook too. If, on the other hand, you’d like to claim that even the president of the European Parliament doesn’t have the power to save human lives, you have us wondering why such a parliament exists, and has a president, in the first place.
You either have the power or you don’t. And if you do have the power, you have the responsibility too. That’s how politics used to be structured, and for good reason. If and when people die because of what you either do or neglect to do, you “face the consequences”. The fact that such a mechanism doesn’t even begin to exist in the EU speaks volumes about how poorly and badly it was constructed in the first place.
And neither does the EU just fail spectacularly in the waters of the Mediterranean. It fails as badly in Greece, where it keeps pushing demands for more austerity on people going hungry, and in Ukraine, where the EU is an accomplice, through a ‘government’ it supports, to the loss of what German intelligence claims are as many as 50,000 human lives.
The body count is rising, and Brussels itself will never call it quits. It really is high time to halt this unholy union.
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what is the solution for all the world's masses if not being dumped on socialist welfare states on the eve of destruction?
Printing MOAR!!!!
1,600 migrants have drowned in the Mediterranean this year. Europe refuses to fix the crisis.
This was a WTF article. So, not only is the western world responsible for the care of welfare-seekers inside their borders, now they're responsible for the care of these people in international waters? OK. What's next, giving free ferry rides from Libya to the shores of the nearest welfare state? That sure worked well when Carter opened up Miami to "the dregs of society" from Cuba, when Castro sent all his criminals to the US.
ISIS threatens to send 500,000 migrants to Europe as a ‘psychological weapon’
Cui bono ?
US/Israeli propaganda ?
The Cubans have done this for over 50 years now without getting killed in these numbers. Why is it that a similar distance is sending Africans through the wood chipper. Anyone?
Cubans were working as, basically, family units or extended family units in planning and executing their attemped crossings. Nobody wants to see their own family drown.
In this Libya thing I'm guessing the people taking them across are "for hire", profiteers, not members of the family. Different standard of care being applied to the passengers.
What I find funny is that the actions of the EU/NATO have caused instability/war and economic destruction in those countries where the immigrants are coming from. Before those CIA springs and NATO bombing campaigns we didnt have such a severe problem. Same with Cuba, the sanctions we placed on it have affected its economy.
An immigrant story on the hedge. Nodoubt the butthurt bloc will be out in force led by their fearless (well, fearless unless you count anything not old, white and male) leader captain butthurt aka nodebt. The very man deluded enough to suggest:
"Clueless red/blue fixated posts will get you nowhere here"
as well as
"I'm voting for Hillary. Hell, I'm voting straight Democrat ticket in the next election. Fastest path to collapse and the reset this country desperately needs".
Ahhh, nodebt, your idiocy hath provided us with many a laugh here, that you think you or your whingy butthurt bloc are not partisan fags who will become gov cheerleaders the instant a republicunt ever takes the oval office again... in 2044, worth a chuckle too.
If one gives all their money to the poor, then everyone becomes poor.
I don't see how equality of money will decrease the resources for which money is needed as an exchange, seems like a zero sum game. Oh wait, you've been taught to equate fiat money with real wealth. Poor you.
Allow me to first question your assumption, House.
Have you got access to reliable statistics comparing the death toll of both cases ?
Reliable statistics confirming the numbers MSM is sprouting may or may not exist. I have not seen them in any case.
One medium talked about a shipwreck with 950 persons involved, the source was a person of a small group of alledged survivors if I remember correctly.
they're not so good at swimming, too much muscle and bone density...
It takes a lot of practice to be good at open ocean swimming. Swimming long distances is rather tiring, even for the fat/buoyant ones.
and once upon a time, people shot hordes of invaders crossing their borders, and threatening to destroy their way of life....
Dead on, BoredRoom. (Pun intended.) So if a man breaks into your house you are supposed to make sure he can do it without injury to himself?
What is so different of stopping these hordes, (regardless of their motivation), than that of a man locking his house up at night? Does not a country have a right to protect the integrity of its borders and to decide who get entrance and who doesn't?
These people are invading Europe mostly due to the fact that they have the curse of the world, Islam, in the countries from which they came. But all of these PC clowns in Europe don't have the testicular fortitude to say so and to expel their problem.
Nothing will change until we as a planet are ready to eradicate Islam. It's just that simple.
All you need to know about this subject:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDceLiPLHWQ
[Nobody ever looks at the actual numbers...]
That Europe let almost 1000 people die in the Mediterranean in one night shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone, at least not to those who are still occasionally awake.
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Blah blah blah
Who cares?
You don't want to drown, stay the fuck in your shit hole country and effect change there.
Any illegals that make land should be engaged by mg42s.
Pretty straight forward in my mind -
If you allow illegals to stay once they sneak in, you are encouraging people to risk their lives to sneak in, so the blood of those that perish is on your hands.
If on the other hand deportation was a high probability, fewer would try.
Like the song goes , "You gotta be cruel to be kind in the right measure"
look blacks and muslims will be destroying everything everywhere they are so just keep them
in the middle east and africa where they belong and scuttle every ship that is used to
spread the disease of low iq and violent religion. there i said it.
<------- IQ of fascist butthurts
<------- fascist butthurts
Yes for the love of God blacks and muslims just leave us peaceful whites alone!!
Hey, sharks gotta eat too. Illegals go home.
If you have 15 minutes here's the longer version (it's worth watching; but only if you want to come to grips with the actual reality and numbers of the situation:
Part 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyTmClBU7nA
Part 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PpaoZE8oXk
GREAT VIDEO! WATCH IT, then forward it to everyone you know. Should be seen by every person on earth
(soft sell: there are lots of pretty gumballs)
My thoughts exactly! All I could think was WTF is he on about. He claims all European natives are guilty and responsible for waves of illegals, mostly young men, seeking to break into someone else's country.
How many fucking millions of young muslim and black males does he think northern Europe HAS to accept.
I have never read a fucking post like this one. White guilt! European guilt.
I have blue eyes, blond hair and my family hails from Sweden and Germany. Maybe I should fucking shoot myself for my guilt. Or maybe the author should host 50 black muslims in his house, he is after all a humanitarian.
Right now millions of muslims and Africans are moving towrds Europe. Seeking to break in and demand housing, education, money, food, health care and their human rights. My answer to them. "Go back fucking home and live there" "I owe you nothing, white people owe you nothing".
and i felt like an alone rebel voicing my opinion.
Speaking from Ireland where the number of immigrants doubled in a decade; http://www.thejournal.ie/non-national-ireland-increase-in-decade-621789-... I absolutely agree with you Jack. We're a small country, population around 4million. In the last couple of years I read that 10% of our population in now from immigrants. I may sound racist here. I don't have a problem with immigrants from Eastern Eurore by and large, as they generally integrate well, get jobs and get on with it.Although they do soak up the available jobs, putting downward pressure on natives for not just income levels, but also for the jobs!
But those from Africa and the middle east appear to have no interest in integrating. They want to live as they did where they ran away from, and expect us to change our society to facilitate them. My view is that if someone invites you into their home, especially when you are in dire need, you must respect that home and the values of those who have sheltered you. And call me small minded, but I actually like the culture and social mores of my country and I don't like being told by elites that we have to be multicultural today. It doesn't work, except perhaps in the US where kids are indoctrinated with the star spangled banner and justice and liberty for all and American Pie from infancy. All they have to do there is sound the national anthem and everyone starts thumping their breast with their palms and stand erect to attention.
In Ireland at least, we have strong irreverence for government, perhaps because for so long we had an alien imperial one. And we don't do National symbols as seriously as some. I think before the elites shove multiculturalism down our throats, they should at least have the manners to ask. Democracy in all its finery. /s
You break it, you bought it. You bomb or invade a country, you are stuck responsible for as long as it takes to get it back to before you broke it. If people had to accept that, I think there would be less bombing and invading. Or more genocide.
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/02/17/obama-destroyed-libya
Colonise Africa and the Middle East. Banksters need moar.
Then future taxpayers can be responsible for them, not before. We have our morals!
Europe has tried to colonize Africa many many times. It has usually ended in failure in those areas most heavily infested with parasites. Dengue, malaria, schistosomiasis, sleeping sickness, guinea worms, etc. the list is nice and long. Add in a few hyper carnivores and the place is pretty much no man's land. Even dinosaurs stopped living there. The continent of Africa was supposedly responsible for killing upwards of 90-95% of the crews that sailed there in the 1600's. Africa is still a pretty fucked up place as far as I can tell.
why is it Europe's problem to fix, exactly?
That got glossed over.
Had the author started with a review of what the West has done to North Africa since President Pimp took over, he might have had a point.
Who the fuck wrote this pile of shit???????
And whoever the fuck it was FAILED to fuckin mention that these fuckers threw a load of Christians overboard to drown because they were christians
Another left winger who won't be happy until he is being executed for being a non believer!!!
So bullish orange jumpsuits?
maybe it's the world's masses being dumped on the EU as a matter of public policy for the "EU non-state" that's creating the EU tax deficit problem.
I'm making over $7k a month working part time. I kept hearing other people tell me how much money they can make online so I decided to look into it. Well, it was all true and has totally changed my life. This is what I do... www.globe-report.com
War: Demographics by other means.
We could send some of our police over to shoot them as they are unarmed, it will save them having to drown.
Why? They have plenty of target practice locally.
Very true and the targets over here can run so you get a moving target , great for shooting people in the back
Maybe we can get some of those heartless bastards over there to deal with our illegal immigration problem.
If you believe in libertarian freedom and natural laws of free enterprise...
It's "Sink or Swim" for those desperados.
At least our ancestors had skills, a plan and a ship they could navigate, before they decided to temp Fate. These people? "Bug meet windshield".
Then you don't believe in nation states do you genius?
The butthurt is strong in this thread.
+1
once there was a great non-nation state...
The EU has a Muslim African occupation problem because they're not dealing with it, the correct response is to not only boot the newly arrived illegals, but all the old ones too.
instant EU austerity and deficit reduction.
The Italians will send out a glass bottom boat...to assist in the search and document their naval heroism as a side bonus!
Lol - but they-a no work-a during lunch
no civilized person does.
So what you are saying is we need to aid the mass migration from south of the border to insure they make it past the Rio Grande doorstep.
I have a better idea, stop destabilizing their countries forcing them to flee.
We fly them in on planes now directly from their country of origin. No need to make the journey.
We just CARE so much more than Europe.
"stop destabilizing their countries forcing them to flee."
That sort of attitude is very unpatriotic and will not be tolerated , everyone know's it was thier fault for living in a war zone , just like you should know it is time to get out of America as this is now a battlefield and it will be your fault when the UNITED STATES kills you.
The difference is, when the time comes. I'll fight back.
It has more to do with other issues than destabilization, food and water security for one. Destabilizing certainly doesn't help though.
US is destabilizing them, Europe pays for the consequences. Perhaps Europe doesn't do enough to divorce itself from failing American Empire, hence having every reason to share its fair allotment of misery.
Thousands more Mexicans and other Hispanics are raped or killed in the desert every year from exposure, cartels and fellow illegal immigrants but no one ever says a thing.
If Obama really cared about Hispanics he would have done a Marshall Plan for our neighbors in Central America so they could rebuild their own countries instead of becoming economic refugees that must flee their homelands and families.
"If Obama really cared about Hispanics"
He would let them die in the desert, talk about getting soft in your old age.
This post pissed me off big time. Preening, flaunting his moral superiority. Well listen dude, as Socrates taught, impractical morality is no morality. There's a legal path for entry to Europe and it can be initiated anywhere. These people are overwhelmingly economic migrants who would not be entitled to immigrate legally. So they take the illegal route. Not that you care, but there is a simple and effective way to avoid all of those deaths. It's the Australian Way and involves towing the ships back to where they came from.
Asked if he believed the policy of turning back the boats would work an Afghan human trafficker replied: "Of course it will work, it is working."
Now go back to preening yourself in front off the mirror. Asshole!
You're not the only one that feels that way.
"legal path for entry to Europe and it can be initiated anywhere"
Last i checked there was not a lot of bus runs from Syria , Iraq ,et al going to Europe somthing to do with a war going on there.
So therefore Europe is compelled to set up ferry service for them?
"Last i checked there was not a lot of bus runs from Syria , Iraq ,et al going to Europe somthing to do with a war going on there."
Yes but refugees (95% of the Med people are from sub-Sahara Africa or North Africa) are supposed to seek safety in the first country they 'escape' to. In the instances you mention this could be Jordan, Turkey or Lebanon. And Europe is not obliged to take anyone from those countries as their lives are not in danger there.
+ 1,000 Australia is taking the only rational way. If they know they will be towed back, they are less likley to think they can break into a place that does not want them. In history, these acts have been called wars, and invasions.
Actually mate, most Aussies pride themselves on giving others a fair go, we are easygoing and welcome humans that happened to be born on a different rock than we were, a rock that has been destroyed by the 'COTW'. Not only that, 'aussies' are illegal immigrants, if you care to inform yourself about the people you speak for, you should know that white aussies were not the first to suffer from an invasion of boat people.
There may be very small pockets of malleable idiots that certain regressive parties (Labor and Liberal) attempt to incite fear and hatred in so they can further their policies with pseudo public support, this is no different to any country and is perfectly illustrated on the hedge with so many republicunts regurgitating any fascist gobbledigook their fave team spouts.
There was a fascist rally on recently in Sydney and some other cities, come bring your flags and stubby holders and we can whinge about how everything wrong in our lives is the fault of darker people. Despite mainstream media support it attracted just 200 people, yes, three digits. The less organised counter protests, called anti-fascist protests by the organizers, attracted more than ten times that.
Don't recycle shit you saw on the drudge report, most aussies are blessed with above average penises and therefore possess no inclination for racism.
Well lashing out at Europe while the US plays a big role in destabilizing the region south and east of it is not fair. Of course Europe should do more but what is the solution? Let them all in it's not as if there was too little workforce available these days...I think if there was a sea between Mexico and the US the situation would not be much different. The west is creating a mess in the developing worlds and crony politicans in those countries are cementing poverty but we don't want to be confronted with these probelms at home. It's as simple as that...
We have wars because they make money. Looks like the bankers have destablized most of Africa and the Middle East. God help this world.
You're better off with Mexicans than with muzzies. Intercept those boats and tug them back to their own culture i say.
We have a reality 911 tv program in the Netherlands, 70% is a black or muzzie crime.
Oh, and 10% former Soviet. So no more boatloads full of hatebeards please...
The author is slamming the EU for not sending ships into Libyan waters to do these rescues? Sorry, but I've got a problem with that line of thinking. Taken to it's natural extreme, why not invade Libya so we can cut off the flow of refugees at the source?
Sorry about the human tragedy happening here, but sailing around in another country's sovereign waters ain't the answer.
Yup. Not to mention the fact that Europe is hardly the Garden of Eden. I think we'll be having our own humanitarian crises here soon.
I am not a nationalist or anything but there are real constraints on what a highly indebted region of the world can achieve on the run up to a major sovereign debt crisis. This guy would have the governments spending more to ensure the safety of immigrants, and taxing the remaining savings of anyone in Europe more. I'm all for humanitarian aid but we need to be realistic about the resources we can mobilize.
Obviously, I agree with some of the general sentiment on the Union though. We're back where we were prior to WW1 (at least, in terms of politics) with a handful of unelected representatives forcing their legislature on the European citizenry on behalf of private interests. Same as it ever was. The 20th century was an anomaly.
"I am not a nationalist or anything.." - what are you then, a globalist, or someone who roots for other culturea and nationalities besides your own? find yourself, dude.
A capitalist who appreciates that there are constraints on what Europe's people (ie: it's productive capacity) can afford.
We can all flounce around and act like if we hold hands then scarcity can just be ignored, but it is a short-term fix to a long term problem. Are you even FROM Europe? And if so, do you see what I see?
Social unrest starts slow and accelerates exponentially. We're heading that way quickly and I'm pretty sure that thousands of uneducated immigrants will only compound an already bad situation when things turn down.
Edit: In fact, given historical evidence, Europe may be the last fucking place they should be moving to. I'm more worried about what happens to a bunch of immigrants with no marketable skills, no formal education, and no grasp of the regional languages when law and order breaks down. I personally won't be pushed to violence, but I have a good education. What does your average unemployed native with a lower than average IQ think?
Not a nationalist? Good grief, why not? Don't tell us you are a NWO type which is another term for let the bankers turn you into a serf.
Really? You, butthurt?
What I find problematic with this article is the that it only looks at Europe's actions in dealing with this problem and so manages to present only one part of the story. It also assumes a European political responsibility for refugees. The European politicians are there to act in the interests of the Europeaan public and this does not extend to people from outside Europe. This problem needs to be handled by the countries that these people come from and the countries responsible for causing conflict and poverty in those countries....the US seems to have a lot to answer for in many of these situations.
What more to expect from a middle-aged Francophile. Bleeding heart sentiment, socialistic tendencies and a highly detached view of the world. The same ridiculous politics that will lead to a European crisis in a few months. Can't wait until these dickheads gut the economy to impose their ludicrous world view on their "constituents".
The scariest part, is that this guy's views represent the norm in Europe, and in most cases when they don't it is a case of dealing with communists, fascists, or nationalists. It's all fun and games over here.
Saudi, Oman, UAE among others are rich? Why aren't the Africans headed there and why haven't those countries provided for their fellow Muslim / Arabs/ Africansf? Why should this be a European problem?
Easy solution - get rid of the government entitlement system which makes it legally, morally and social acceptable for people to live off the labor of another (aka slavery) and they won't come. Nobody is going to US or EU anymore for an opportunity to work and labor to advance their situation in life.
Never happen. The first parasites in line are the government.
I would have suggested this Raul character be used as the torch for the Reichstag fire, but of course I know nothing of that incident.
Fuck em'. It's not Europe's job (or ours) to feed everyone with a hand out. Invest in more patrol boats and intercept, turn around, or sink every tramp steamer, raft, and bathtub that tries to cross and return the clowns who make it ashore. Italy used to be pretty good about patrolling their shores. When Albania collapsed in 97', I watched Guardia di Finanze cigarette boats flying off to do patrols along their coast, then returning early in the morning as the sun arose.
Feed them today, they'll hate you tomorrow and bomb you the day after.
Hire the Somali pirates
I must say that, in southern of Europe, our politicians are particularly kind with immigrants because they know that the vast majority don't stay. Most of them immediately head for Germany and Scandinavia.
There's a shortage in social rent housing over here, because the muzzies soak them all up, 'urgency matter' from .gov. Fuck 'm.
simple as USA refuse to take immigrants during ww2. Europe ships were stoped at usa costs by usa military and then send back to europe.
As someone who lives in Europe and the truth is a little more complicated.
Firstly, European people are struggling to scrape a living as it is. Economically, we are pretty crippled. So when you have thousands of people coming over who (initially) will take from the system before they give back, people who will trump you on housing lists, it's difficult to have sympathy with them.
Secondly, These migrants could make the less hazardous trip to Morrocco where they would be safe. But strangely, they'd rather take an infinitely more dangerous trip to Europe. Which does make one wonder if safety is the name of their trip.
Thirdly, if these immigrants do eventually settle, don't think they'll integrate into European society. They'll bring their "customs" (and I'm trying to be polite here) with them. Think I'm being a paranoid right-winger? Check this out:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32337725
However, in the migrants' defence, Europeans decided to interfere in other countries' affairs, so if some of those problems come to your doorstep? Don't be surprised. Reap what you sow, bitchez....
Immigration laws, both economic and asylum, need to be vastly reformed because as a proud UK citizen, it's very difficult to make a nice life here when anyone can come over and you have to shut up and take for fear of being ostricised. It's kind of like spending your time, money and resources making your house nice and comfortable and the guys over the road frig their house up to the point of collapse and the local council force you to take them in and there's nothing you can do about it.
See what I mean about the immgration situation being a bit more complex that it's made out to be....?
do you mean air bombs, deaths and destration of countries by "interfere"? and why are you not said so then?
Because force isn't the only way to interfere in a country's affairs.
You could support a despotic regime which makes life intolerable for its inhabitants which cause them to flee......for example.
This is your problem. You think that despotic regime is bad, and it's, but you go there and make all 100 worse. You have worse things called "fake freedom" "fake democracy" "fake election" "fake media" "fake money" "fake banks" etc
Dictatorship is better in some cases because they told more truth...
And your main problem that you are thinking for other nations
Did you asked them what are they want? no
You decided for them what is better, because of some people thought they are exceptionals
Dude, are you actually reading what I'm posting?
That's EXACTLY what I was talking about.
We decided to interfere in other peoples' countries so we shouldn't be surprised when they turn up on our shores. We shouldn't have interfered....
Kowalli: Actually, this is their problem. They are emigrating to a region of the world which is soon to be highly unstable. Society is, more likely than not, going to turn inward on itself. It could well be their heads.
Also, Europe is not like the Middle East, or Africa. It is full of capable and educated people, and decent technology. If there is a civil war fought across racial divides (and I think that risk persists) it will be quite violent and bloody. Just like every other European conflict.
Things are bad here, really bad, held together by a thread. They are jumping out of one volatile situation and moving toward another.
PS: They also expect to get a bunch of free money, housing, etc. at a time when the majority cannot afford it, and will not tolerate higher taxes much longer.
Reap what you sow? Charles the Hammer didn't fight the turks in Turkey. The crusades returned the fight to the middle east, they didn't start it there, and they fought on the front in Spain and Portugal for another 200 years. The European nations didn't demand tribute from the Ottoman empire for hundreds of years to not engage in piracy, kidnapping and slavery, and after they got paid, do it anyway. When are you going to address the black guelphe frankists who did all this to you, and more?
"the guys over the road frig their house up to the point of collapse and the local council force you to take them in and there's nothing you can do about it"
Miffed, that immigrants come to try to get back the wealth that your nation has been extracting from them?
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Why didn't the immigrants do their own extraction of resources?
HATE question!
You forgot to preface this with the reason they should assimilate and why it matters to you..
yeah, dont fix the problem at the source - just call the europeans names for not allowing themselves to be demographically replaced as fast ad you'd like.
That's exactly the plan, Mr. D,
So much for historical revisionism.
Sometimes the past is a real bitch....
Stay out of the water. No problem. And it didn't cost their prey in Europe anything.
To assist them is promoting the act. My main highway advertises DUI arrests as a deterrant. There are safety nets in the Rio Grande to assist illegals, what next just build a bridge? 1000+ deaths is unfortunate, but to cause a reaction from an entire continent which includes massive spending, nope.
The EU is so upset about Libyan smugglers, not too concerned as their country got toppled.
For the 50th time, who the fuck is this prick MyJar and what qualifies the prick to get coverage on ZH?
I read all comments and understand that most people are immoral heartless bastards(
Or tough love. Your call.
Kowalli, how many uneducated, unskilled, Muslim Africans are you supporting in your home? And if you are Christian, how are you going to protect your family from them?
You won't get a reply from this prick. He just wants to flaunt his superior morality.
Never understood why the ethical call to help others or "do unto others..." is never applied to the poor. If the poorall helped each other instead of looking for a handout, they wouldn't live in the poverty and repression that they currently have. Europe has what it has because people labored to produce it. Why can't Libyans do the same? Instead of excaping to what others built in their country why not build your own like Europe did in your country? ISIL may have been created by the West, but is it Libyans who are getting hurt by it and have to fight it just like Europeans have fought to create what Europe is. Why is enabling and expecting the poor to help each other considered to be "heartless" if it worked in Europe to produce what they have now?
Libyans were doing better than most countries in Africa until the US, UK, and France raped that country to steal its assets.
Agreed. but there is still a country with oil there.. it has not sunk into the sea.
The author clearly has no idea of politics, or how EU operates. Whenever the EU wants to get or increase control over policy areas, it first feigns incompetence and gains consensus through the usual channels. Historical materialism in action.
The immigration issue is being utilized for an expansion of EU competence as they quietly forge the EU military machine. The media has ready answers as to the cause of course, and no one thinks about the aims of the various actors:
1. EU's lack of powers to act (territorial sovereignty, budgets...)
2. Nation states not being able to coordinate or cope.
ergo, more powers and intervention for EU to secure MENA: ie. Rome (DC) revisits Carthage.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/21/us-libya-security-oil-idUSKBN0...
Interesting take.
Certainly some politicians will not want this crisis to go to waste and use it to their advantage.
I have a vision :
build a tunnel between Morocco and Spain.
A real and symbolic connection between Africa and Europe.
With, in addition to commerce, controlled immigration and emigration, to the benefit of both Europe and Africa
Glad you found it interesting.
Its not simply a case of politicians grandstanding/gaining power The institution itself is is directed to this end by the principle of ever increasing integration and harmonization with its periphery. (see how MENA issues are covered where global policy is forged: the anglo-us ginger groups: cfr, chatham house).
"see how MENA issues are covered where global policy is forged: the anglo-us ginger groups: cfr, chatham house)"
no clue what ginger groups are and fail to see the analogy.
Scenario: There are people trying to get into your house. For defense, you have a large moat filled with small to medium sized sea dragons. Someone, one of your neighbors, who has his own moat filled with similar sea dragons, writes an article criticizing how you just let the sea dragons eat the invaders instead of welcoming them into your home to drain your resources and possibly do you physical harm. The end.
Good muslims are dead muslims. After all, it is the will of allah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNYemuiAOfU
I suggest everyone watch that excellent documentary about Glencore and how they rape Africa.
Now I am not questioning what they are doing --- if they didn't do it some other company would.
THIS IS HOW THE WORLD WORKS
The weak get pillaged --- and if you take pity on them someone else will pillage them --- and then you will be next in line.
Survival of the Fittest.
What I do take issue with is the hypocrisy associated with this.
On one hand we have fucktard Bono with his we are the world bullshit telling us we need to help. That's like slashing someone's neck with a machete then saying poor you --- here's a bandaid mate.
And I just love how the average dick head tosses a few coins into the Oxfam Box at the check out counter of the grocery store feeling he's saving those poor Africans --- completely oblivious to the fact that his large lifestyle was build upon the raping and pillaging of the weak to steal their resources.
Amusing how we wring our hands over these people who have drowned like rats on a sinking ship yet there is not a single mention in the MSM about the reasons they are desperate to escape Africa. Not a single mention of how we are taking their resources, at the barrel of a gun and driving them into disgusting poverty.
Oh no - that is unmentionable - the big picture is not permitted.
Again -- I do not stand in judgment of our actions. Survival of the Fitttest. The Africans are weak and therefore they will be exploited.
The Chinese were weak and they were fucked hard by the British.
You can wallow in self pity and anger and wait for Bono to beg a few crumbs for you.
Or you can become strong. The Chinese understand this. The Jews understand this.
Kindness is weakness. And it will get you a boot on your neck. Or drowned trying to escape the boot.
WISDOM.
Justice is subject to dispute; might is easily recognised and is not disputed. So we cannot give might to justice, because might has gainsaid justice, and has declared that it is she herself who is just. And thus being unable to make what is just strong, we have made what is strong just.” Blaise Pascal
Uppd you.
The problem is, Joe Blow can't see that one day the heat will turn up on him or his progeny.
How much output is there during wartime? In war, labor meets demand and production ensues. In wartime, suddenly countries find resources to defend their borders and deal with pesky unwanted immigrants. In England, at the onset of WW2, their economy ramped up 3X over pre-war levels. And it remained at that heightened level despite being bombed.
If you have unemployed people, and natural resources available, all that remains is money as demand.
Yes, under right conditions, just spending new money will ramp up out-puts and not be inflationary. Money is demand, and it will demand new production until natural limits of labor and earth are met. Austerity is lack of money as demand, in order to cancel debts by swapping with real assets; assets like islands, ports, railroads, etc. are demanded in exchange for odious debts. Austerity is harvesting debtors for their real assets.
Europe meets the conditions of lack of money as demand. Excessive debts need to be paid down, and labor wants to work, therefore injections of new money will act as simple demand. There are more than enough people to patrol the borders, build ships, create industry, etc. Your output could increase 3X to produce goods, services, etc. - the things you need.
So, what’s the problem? It is “international credit.” There is a false idea held by humanity that money should be created as a mirror to debt instruments. This idea is “international” and the opposite of sovereignty. At its base, this idea is credit as money should be lent into circulation. What we really need is money that is SPENT into circulation. This spent into existence money is most emphatically NOT CREDIT. It is debt free money –and any proper money supply should have a significant component of debt free. Debt free can channel into modes that enhance sovereignty.
The Euro very much is a banker debt money/credit system. Euro is international money, used as scheme for New World Order banker control.
Euro -peons need to recover their sovereignty and run their countries in accordance with the wishes of their people. This can only happen when a country has its own law based money.
Credit as money is NOT law based; it has assumed law – usually by subverting government and its people. In U.S., credit banking fully hosted that country in 1912. By making bank credit-money good for paying taxes, an original sin was committed, and that sin will continue to reverberate negatively unless overturned.
Euro project is to force integration of former sovereign states using credit money power.
If you don’t have your own money, your own language, and your own culture – you are not a country. Euro project will eliminate what were formerly sovereign and unique countries.
Resist the international Zionists and their corrupt credit money systems. They will only lead humanity to a very bad end. Thousands of years of evolution are being overturned as European countries are subsumed and destroyed. Quit being stupid Goyim.
Use sovereign money, and then mark international trade with Bancors. An honest system of this type will stop many wars and almost stop parasitic rents. Bancors will force balanced trade and balanced economies.
International credit money system has excessive rents; these rents are stealing from mouth of labor, and then rents are pyramided and vectored to psychopaths who consider themselves God.
Recover your borders, language, and culture by adopting a Sovereign money system. It is a simple law change, and the methods have been worked out. Do it or die.
www.sovereingmoney.eu
They economize on the rescue of people because the high salaries and expense accounts of the MEPs has to come from somewhere.
All kidding aside: these tragedies can be stopped by wacking the traffickers. Find them, hunt them down and kill them. The traffickers are the ones making 'a killing' out of sending these poor souls to sea after they extorted them out of their money. But of course, some selfrighteous Gütmensch in Europe will have a problem with wacking the traffickers. You know, they are victims too.
Surely this can be somehow blamed on those dastardly Chinese communists. Are they not Bolsheviks once removed?
Not sure what is the problem? Do liberals think that we should just let the whole Africa/Middle East into Europe? We already have problems between immigrants and locals due to their culture/religion. It is not our problem these people drowned. They should not be comming to Europe illegally anyways, they paid their "gangsters" to get them to Europe illegally so they knew the risks.
If Europe keeps accepting these people they will just keep on coming, we should do what Australian PM said:
'If you want to stop migrants crossing the Mediterranean, don't let them set foot on land': Australian PM urges EU to adopt their tough policies... which HAVE proved a successhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3048375/If-want-stop-migrants-cr...
Sure America has European roots, but Europe, the EU, and the rest of the Old World can go rot.
The whole lot of them are has-beens squatting on the ruins of ancient civilizations. Say what you want about America, but Rome has not burned quite yet.
This article is a serious POS. If a bunch a burglars die trying to break into a house, how is it the fault of the home owner?
Europe is toast. Somehow I don't think it will be as funny as "Shaun of the dead" when the SHTF. Best stock up on... um... ur.. baseball bats.
Burnt toast and a bunch of has beens.
Hahahahaha.
Your long term fruit of the Peace Corp! Clean water and latrines will jump a backwards population in a generation. Most of these counties have 50%+ populations - under 20 years of age - and no - repeat no fucking jobs period. Much less anything that might meet their expectations after watching the white pussy at the disco in Dallas or Baywatch reruns..
So they want to stop this. The most humanitarian thing to do is sink those boats as close to Libyan shore as possible so some may have a chance to swim back and tell the next bunch is a shit poor idea.
Rough math - let 10 thousand die to save a million. Save a million to save 50 million in Europe.
Will this happen - oh hell no. The Euros and the West in general are hellbent for cultural suicide.
Sell the immigrants to the Chinese. Use proceeds to reduce debt burden and to advertise for more immigrants. Problem solved, when immigrants stop coming. So simple.
There are already 6 billion too many of us....
Rather than Europe, send all the negroids to Greater Israel!
The Israelis will round 'em up into concentration camps before sending them right back to the Dark Continent.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.650157
You joking? Israel's elites, or so they claim, depend on Ethiopian niggers who have no Jewish blood at all to do the dirty jobs actual Jews supposedly refuse to do.
That's a goddamn lie, like it is everywhere else. Russian-speaking Israelis, who are actually of Jewish descent, would be glad of the work if Israel's ungrateful 0.01 per cent weren't too cheap to hire them, not to mention too Russophobic.
The taste of Russians for pork, you see, trumps the taste of Ethiopians for mutilating their daughters' genitals.
History records that it was Yitzhak Rabin's first government in 1975 that officially recognized as Jews for Law of Return purposes Ethiopian niggers with no Jewish blood at all. Israel would have been spared much if Rabin had been assassinated just for that.
Free Yigal Amir.
Most Europeans don't give a shit!
did you do a poll ?
What was the sampling size and statistical chance of error ?
Of course Brussels did nothing. The banksters wanted cheap labour and occasional ballot-box stuffers. And they got it, like they get everything else they want.
You better believe that if white Christians had been on those boats they'd have been lucky to get a single warning shot.
Too true. And recently the Muslims on board turfed their Christian fellow passengers over the side. Suppose they reckoned there were enough Christians in Europe as it is.
Africa is still "The Heart of Darkness". It is the home of the Blacks.
ther only solution to EU's financial problems as well as social problems is mass deporation of Africans and Muslims, anything other than that is only going to grow the problem-which is human.
Islam and the human firehose of mass immigration is the problem and Africans are even worse.
I am curious how many were trying to escape Mr Gaddafis Libya? The one that provided stipends and medical care to its citizens. I have a feeling I know.
before the civil war in Libya most of those Africans would have tried to get jobs in Libya,not trying to cross to Europe
Title could as well have read : Why Africa/AU lets people drown
Having said that, I think EU and AU should try to save these people and return them.
2nd look at Gaddafi.
Oh...wait...never mind.
That boat had at least 1250 people on board. Probably smugglers got around $600/person, making well over 500,000 dollars per voyage!
My view , living in Italy , is that the EU traitors and the incompetent Italian government are to blame for this disaster for having created a climate of expectation and hope amongst theHalf to one million people lining up to sail to Italy .
Over meny years the EU morons and the Italian government have done nothing to discourage the migration . The Italian Navy is only good for saving the passengers of overloaded boats and ferry the poor devils ashore . So the expectation among those people is to take a risk on an overcrowded boat and then they will find some EU government that will pay for their accommodation , health services , training and a living wage . The migrants gets priority on subsidised housing , training and jobs . This causes resentement among the poor taxpaying citizens .
The political correct idiots in charge of the EU are following the ZIonists dictates for a multiracial EU . The people are fed up because the will of the people doesn't count .
Unintended consequences.
When Gadaffi ran Libya, life was good and the Libyans weren't fleeing anywhere. Then the European schmucks, as commanded by their American masters, destroyed that country. The gold disappeared, the water aquifer is being drained, and the oil is being stolen.
The best hope is that the (hopefully) hundreds of thousands of refugees land in France. Half of them should then take the chunnel to London. After arriving, they should go about the business of thanking their benefactors, up close and personal.
The Americans won't worry because any blowback shouldn't reach them ... only their UK and French bitches.
Right, those do-gooders from the Italian coast guard should have towed the boats back to Lybia from the very beginning and many people would be still alive.
So, how many of those immigrants are you financially supporting Mr. Meijer???? Or are you just another fence sitting hypocrite?
"If and when people die because of what you either do or neglect to do, ..."
Why should i be responsible for other people who choose to walk along the abyss ?
Those 'immigrants" have chosen to gamble with their own lives. Therefore it is immoral to call 'the rich', which we are, guilty.
The EU, the european peoples, usa, etcetera do a lot of wrong things, but not helping, being responible for other people lives are not part of that list.
The main culprits are the ones who refuse to build up their own fatherlands. Fleeing is not quite patriotic but mere not carring responsibilities.
And.
If i were in their shoes...i would do the same .
The solution is not to rescue and bring into Europe. Its to station naval patrols that intercept and rescue and tow back to where they came from. At the moment the would be migrants see their friends leave Africa and not come back, thus they assume they succeeded in getting to Europe (though some will have drowned). If we ship them straight back the would-be migrants will see they're wasting their time and money and will change plans. The only solution is to send them all home. If we let even a few in they will all keep trying forever. They need to stay and fix their own countries, and we the West should butt out and stop messing their countries up.
This is an OUTRAGE !!!!!
ALL the invader vessels should be used as target practice for EU navies and air forces, AND widely publicised, to ensure that the islamic vermin do not flood into Europe.
Why are Europeans blamed for the drowning of Africans?
The Europeans did not force the Africans on the boats.
The African leaders are to blame for the drownings. If they don't want Africans to drown they should give them swimming lessons or provide safer boats.
The European navy should sink the boats while they're still in African harbors. In this way, the Africans can swim safely back to Africa.
Africans are responsible for Africans drowning.
If Africans overthrew their corrupt, thuggish leaders, they wouldn't have to take a dangerous boat ride.
Europe should not allow any Africans into Europe.