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When Did We All Become Murderers?

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Submitted by Raul Ilargi Meijer via The Automatic Earth blog,

Appalled doesn’t cover it. Disgusted won’t do either. Angry doesn’t come close. Maybe I have yet to learn of a word that would express my feelings on the following topic. There’s a disease, an epidemic, that spreads through out the western world. We are all turning into accomplices to murder. And I still believe we are better than that. Just perhaps not all of us.

The US, and the rest of the west, have made plenty enemies already without needing to create their own out of thin air – as if there were ever a need to create enemies. But that’s still what we’ve been doing in many places in the world, including Ukraine. And there’s an entire multi-billion machine working just to make us think what someone else wants us to think about these ‘enemies’.

These days, when you call someone ‘pro-Russian’, that’s about on on the same level as ‘murderer’, rapist, things like that. And that must be why the western press once again resorts to ‘pro-Russian’ as a swear word, or even curse, in reporting on the murders of at least 10 people in Ukraine over the past 3 months. As far as we can see, all were considered ‘allies’ of former President Yanukovych (whatever ‘allies’ may mean in this context) and 2 were journalists (of whom at least 1 was also a historian).

Yanukovych was (or is, actually) not a saint. He was the utterly corrupt president of a country that has been utterly corrupt for a very long time. It still is today, and it’s getting worse, fast. Whereas Russia didn’t feel it had the right or need to interfere in the country, the west did. Its interference culminated in the ouster of Yanukovych in late February 2014, and the introduction of a ‘government’ that is extremely pro-western and extremely anti-anything-’that has anything to do’-with Russia (including the language).

First, we saw the US install its puppet Yatsenyuk as PM (we know about this through leaked tapes of US Dep. Secretary Victoria Nuland). ‘Yats’ to this day has never been elected to office by ‘his’ people (or any other people, for that matter) . A few months later came oligarch Poroshenko as president, who was.

Both men have been instrumental in waging a very bloody and deadly war against a significant segment (a third) of their own population, in east Ukraine. This warfare has coincided with an ever more blatant propaganda war against anything-’that has anything to do’-with Russia, both in Ukraine and across the west. Need I repeat not one of the accusations against Russia has, still to date, ever been substantiated, despite the best spy satellites etc. equipment in human history?

Whereas someone who cannot be accused of anything worse than being pro-Russian is merely equal to a murderer or rapist, being – labeled as – pro-Putin is several levels worse than that. Meanwhile, Russian President Putin himself has been compared to the biggest mass-murderers in human history, amongst others by US presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

And lest we forget, Yatsenyuk has labeled all east Ukrainians ‘subhuman’. Let’s see any other prime minster in any other country in the world do that and remain in office.

So far, nothing new. Why then get back to this? Because of all those people who are being killed. The Kiev regime for quite a while attempted to label them all ‘suicides’ (something that was eagerly quoted in western media), hindered in this ‘policy’ only by facts getting in the way.

And when these facts get in the way, they blame Russia for the murders. The ‘rationale’ being that Moscow sought to prevent all these now deceased Ukrainians from divulging details about ‘anti-Maidan’ protests they may have been involved in (can’t have that in a democracy).

One western ‘news source’ even quoted an ‘expert’ just the other day as claiming Putin had ordered two of the murders to coincide with his latest yearly phone-in TV show last week: “political analyst Volodymyr Fesenko said the fact that the killings coincided with Vladimir Putin’s annual phone-in “aroused great suspicion”.

What remains most galling – well, other than us supporting cold blooded murder – is the extent to which western media blindly keep reporting whatever Kiev says, despite the fact that it should be clear to every single reporter that neither Poroshenko nor Yatsenyuk has ever been caught saying anything of substance that proved to be true.

Putin did mention the murder of journalist and historian Oles Buzina last week briefly on that show, and added there has been a series of murders recently in Ukraine, which are not being (or don’t seem to be) properly investigated by Kiev. “”This is not the first political assassination. Ukraine is dealing with a whole string of such murders..”

‘The difference with Russia, Vladimir Putin said, was that killings such as that of opposition figure Boris Nemtsov got properly investigated, leading to arrests. “In Ukraine, which pretends to be a democratic state and wants to be part of a democratic Europe, nothing like that is happening. Where are the murderers of these people? They are simply not there, neither those who carried them out nor those who ordered them, But Europe and North America prefer not to notice.“’

While the killing spree is ongoing, US troops arrived last week to ‘train’ the Ukraine government (and oligarchs) army. The British have had ‘instructors’ there for a long time. We know Blackwater aka XE aka Academi has boots on the ground. We also know that Right Sector leader Dmitro Yarosh (known for various photographs with his ‘troops’ which feature swastikas), was appointed to a high post in that same Ukraine army. Yarosh is also an MP. Nice assembly.

And ‘we’ support this? By we, I mean not only the US, Europe is just as hungry for a fight, and just as blind when it comes to facts vs fiction. But what on earth are we doing paying for all this? Have we all completely lost our heads, hearts and minds? We’re supposed to support democracies, not death squads!

Here’s a list of the victims, largely taken from a piece by Justin Raimondo last week, with a few additions on my part. As you can see, most of them would be considered intellectuals. The ‘cream’ of what was left in Ukraine and did not support Poroshenko, Yatsenyuk and their supporters abroad, in the west, is systemically being eradicated and may now be gone.

• January 26 – Nikolai Sergienko, former deputy chief of Ukrainian Railways and a supporter of Viktor Yanukoych’s Party of Regions, reportedly shot himself with a hunting rifle. The windows were all locked from inside, and no note was found.

• January 29 – Aleksey Kolesnik, the former chairman of the Kharkov regional government and a prominent supporter of the now-banned Party of Regions, supposedly hung himself. There was no suicide note.

• February 24 – Stanislav Melnik, another former Party of Regions member of parliament, was found dead in his bathroom: he is said to have shot himself with a hunting rifle. We are told he left a suicide note of “apologies,” but what he was apologizing for has never been revealed, since the note has not been released.

• February 25 – Sergey Valter, former Party of Regions activist and Mayor of Melitopol, was found hanged hours before his trial on charges of “abuse of office” was set to begin. Whoever was responsible neglected to leave a “suicide” note.

• February 26 – Aleksandr Bordyuga, Valter’s lawyer and former deputy chief of Melitopol police, was found in his garage, dead, another “suicide.”

• February 26 – Oleksandr Peklushenko, a former Party of Regions member of parliament and chairman of Zaporozhye Regional State Administration, was found dead in the street with a gun wound to his neck. Officially declared a “suicide.”

• February 28 – Mikhail Chechetov, a professor of economics and engineering, former member of parliament from the Party of Regions, and former head of the privatization board, supposedly jumped from the seventeenth floor window of his Kiev apartment. Another “suicide”!

• March 14 – Sergey Melnichuk, a prosecutor and Party of Regions loyalist, “fell” from the ninth floor window of an apartment building in Odessa. Or was he pushed?

• April 15 – Oleg Kalashnikov, yet another prominent Party of Regions leader, died of a gunshot wound – the eighth since the beginning of the year.

• April 16 – Oles Buzina, historian and journalist, shot dead.

• April 16 – Serhiy Sukhobok, journalist, shot dead.

• April 17? – Olga Moroz, editor-in-chief of the Neteshinskiy Vestnik, found dead in her home. Her body showed ‘signs of violent death’.

Moreover, in a perhaps separate incident, on March 22, Yanukovych’s 33-year-old son Viktor Jr., a former Ukraine MP, died after his car ‘apparently fell through ice on Russia’s Lake Baikal’.

There are also an unknown number of people who simply disappeared. This happened for instance on April 15 with Dr. Skorokhodov Vitali and ‘militiaman’ Alexey Astanin. There may be many more. Which reminds me of an interview that Patrick Smith posted a few days ago in Salon, with Stephen F. Cohen, arguably America’s top expert on Russia. One of the things Cohen said – more of him later – puts a major question mark behind official – UN – numbers of Ukraine civil war casualties:

The horror of this has been Kiev’s use of its artillery, mortars and even its airplanes, until recently, to bombard large residential cities, not only Donetsk and Luhansk, but other cities. These are cities of 500,000, I imagine, or 2 million to 3 million. This is against the law. These are war crimes, unless we assume the rebels were bombing their mothers and grandmothers and fathers and sisters.

 

This was Kiev, backed by the United States. So the United States has been deeply complicit in the destruction of these eastern cities and peoples. When Nuland tells Congress there are 5,000 to 6,000 dead, that’s the U.N. number. That’s just a count of bodies they found in the morgues. Lots of bodies are never found. German intelligence says 50,000.

We haven’t seen the German data Cohen cites, but we see no reason to doubt him either. It would place the entire matter in a whole different light, however.

There are some details behind the murder spree coming to the surface. There’s a site called ‘Peacemaker’ (psb4ukr.org), supported by Ukraine MP and government advisor Anton Gerashchenko, who has said: “Information from the website of the “Peacemaker” center has long enjoyed the Ministry of Internal Affairs, security service, intelligence, border service to collect information to open criminal cases and obtaining a court decision on the detention and arrest of separatists and terrorists.”. Gerashenko is also involved in financing the operation.

“Peacemaker”

 

RESEARCH CENTRE FEATURES OF CRIMES AGAINST UKRAINE’S NATIONAL SECURITY, PEACE, SECURITY AND HUMANITY international law

 

Information for law enforcement authorities and special services about pro-Russian terrorists, separatists, mercenaries, war criminals, and murderers.

The site apparently has a list to download with some 7,700 names of “saboteurs” and “terrorists”. People are invited to post personal information, including addresses and phone numbers, of people deemed hostile to the Kiev regime. Such information for Buzina and Kalashnikov was posted on the site less than 48 hours before they were murdered.

A few people in the west have done some further digging into the site’s origins (with ‘traceroutes’, ‘nslookup’, ‘reverse nslookup’ etc.), and they claim to have found links to Dallas, Texas and Calgary, Alberta, as well as one to a NATO server – located in Dallas. You can find further details at Moon of Alabama and Niqnaq.

Meanwhile, the murders were claimed by a group that calls itself Ukrainian Insurgent Army, quoted by the BBC as having written: “We are unleashing a ruthless insurgency against the anti-Ukrainian regime of traitors and Moscow’s lackeys. From now on, we will only speak to them using the language of weapons, all the way to their elimination.”

As far as I can tell, nobody has been arrested for any of the murders to date.

And yes, we are all involved in this. You, me, all of us. How did we get there? Perhaps the second quote from that interview with Stephen F. Cohen serves to explain how we did:

Stephen F. Cohen on the U.S./Russia/Ukraine History the Media Won’t Tell You
(The New York Times “basically rewrites whatever the Kiev authorities say”)

I wrote an article in, I think, 2012 called the “The Demonization of Putin,” arguing that there is very little basis for many of the allegations made against Putin, and that the net result was to make rational analysis in Washington on Russian affairs at home and abroad impossible, because it was all filtered through this demonization. If we didn’t stop, I argued, it was only going to get worse to the point where we would become like heroin addicts at fix time, unable to think about anything except our obsession with Putin. We couldn’t think about other issues.

 

This has now happened fully. The article was turned down by the New York Times, and an editor I knew at Reuters published it on Reuters.com.

 

The history of how this came about [begins] when Putin came to power, promoted by Yeltsin and the people around Yeltsin, who were all connected in Washington. These people in Moscow included Anatoly Chubais, who had overseen the privatizations, had relations with the IMF and had fostered a lot of the corruption. He came to United States to assure us that Putin was a democrat, even though he had been at the KGB.

 

When he came to power, both the Times and the Post wrote that Putin was a democrat and, better yet, he was sober, unlike Yeltsin. How we got from 2000 to now, when he’s Hitler, Saddam, Stalin, Gaddafi, everybody that we have to get rid of, whom we know killed Boris Nemtsov because from the bridge where Nemtsov was killed [on February 27] you can see the Kremlin…. Well, remember, Sarah Palin could see Russia from Alaska! It’s preposterous. But the demonization of Putin has become an institution in America. It is literally a political institution that prevents the kind of discussion that you and I are having.

 

Kissinger had the same thought. He wrote, last year, I think, “The demonization of Putin is not a policy. It’s an alibi for not having a policy.” That’s half correct. It’s much worse now, because they did have a policy. I think the “policy” growing in some minds was how to get rid of Putin. The question is, “Do they have the capacity to make decisions?” I didn’t think so, but now I’m not so sure, because in a lot of what comes out of Washington, including the State Department, the implication is that Putin has to go.

 

I asked a question rhetorically several years ago of these regime changers: Have you thought about what would happen in Russia in the event of regime change? If what you say is true, if Putin is the pivot of the whole system, you remove Putin the whole system collapses. Russia has every known weapon of mass destruction in vast quantities. What would be the consequence of that conceit on your part—that we’re going to get rid of Putin—for the rest of the world?

 

So this Putin phenomenon has to be explained. How did he go from a democrat for sure, now to maybe the worst Russian leader since Ivan the Terrible. How do you explain it? Does that tell us more about Putin or more about us?

I guess the main question is not ‘How did we get here?’, but ‘How do we get out?’.

Here’s the now unfortunately no longer among us Oles’ Buzina talking about the history of Ukraine (don’t forget to turn on subtitles/CC)

 

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Wed, 04/22/2015 - 14:45 | 6019110 barry2001
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Wed, 04/22/2015 - 14:50 | 6019134 1000yrdstare
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Ther wouldn't be any damn killing if Putin would remove his troops and bases from Canada, Mexico and Cuba!!!....come on people! stand up to this guy, he's trying to surround us!!!

 

oh...nevermind..

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 14:58 | 6019173 pods
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USA is corrupt to the bone, and the worst part is it has infected everything. Money, media, education, even language.

Our cult of death worship will deliver us where we belong.

I hear a story every single day about someone doing something that is anti-MIC and the comments on radio or the US based web talks about how they wish they could kick in the teeth of the protestors.

A fucking flag is enough to cause you to actually inflict serious harm on another individual. Not someone raping your daughter, assaulting your son, stealing your property.

Fucking around with a damn piece of cloth, which I might add, that YOU own.

The USA deserves everything it gets.

pods

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:05 | 6019197 Money Boo Boo
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Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:25 | 6019304 RU-GAY2
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It i5 time we all step up to the plates and realize stuff

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:26 | 6019313 RU-GAY2
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Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:28 | 6019324 Anusocracy
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They shot the wife and kids, burned the house, raped the dog, and desecrated the flag.

Oh no, not the FLAG!!!

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:39 | 6019362 TahoeBilly2012
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Pro Christain Russian here! Anti Yid fucking liars here!

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:54 | 6019431 Anusocracy
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I'm anti-anti-voluntaryism.

So I'm opposed to 99% of the so-called human race.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 16:03 | 6019469 w a l k - a w a y
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 When Did We All Become Murderers?

 

At birth, born into a world of deception, division and domination.

 

“The measure of a civilization is how it treats its weakest members.”

  ~ Mahatma Gandhi

 

Parents are nothing but agents of society.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 16:26 | 6019552 Never One Roach
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Jury convicts Oregon farmer of killing men, feeding to pigs

 

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/jury-convicts-oregon-farmer-of-killi...

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 16:53 | 6019634 Citxmech
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"She variously claimed that Delicino shot himself repeatedly in the head and also that she shot him in self-defense and he was eaten by her pigs before she buried his remains on her 20-acre farm in southern Oregon, Smith reminded jurors."

 

I thought pigs were supposed to solve the problem with remains?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xUynRdzzsM

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:09 | 6019223 Sages wife
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You are wise pods. Just sayin'. Imagine where we'd be if everyone chose to see things so clearly. Got John Lennon killed. Ego must go. We will persevere.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:35 | 6019351 Anusocracy
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To help in understanding.

http://www.moralfoundations.org/

Moral Foundations Theory was created by a group of social and cultural psychologists (see us here) to understand why morality varies so much across cultures yet still shows so many similarities and recurrent themes. In brief, the theory proposes that several innate and universally available psychological systems are the foundations of “intuitive ethics.” Each culture then constructs virtues, narratives, and institutions on top of these foundations, thereby creating the unique moralities we see around the world, and conflicting within nations too. The five foundations for which we think the evidence is best are:

1) Care/harm: This foundation is related to our long evolution as mammals with attachment systems and an ability to feel (and dislike) the pain of others. It underlies virtues of kindness, gentleness, and nurturance.
2) Fairness/cheating: This foundation is related to the evolutionary process of reciprocal altruism. It generates ideas of justice, rights, and autonomy. [Note: In our original conception, Fairness included concerns about equality, which are more strongly endorsed by political liberals. However, as we reformulated the theory in 2011 based on new data, we emphasize proportionality, which is endorsed by everyone, but is more strongly endorsed by conservatives]
3) Loyalty/betrayal: This foundation is related to our long history as tribal creatures able to form shifting coalitions. It underlies virtues of patriotism and self-sacrifice for the group. It is active anytime people feel that it's "one for all, and all for one."
4) Authority/subversion: This foundation was shaped by our long primate history of hierarchical social interactions. It underlies virtues of leadership and followership, including deference to legitimate authority and respect for traditions.
5) Sanctity/degradation: This foundation was shaped by the psychology of disgust and contamination. It underlies religious notions of striving to live in an elevated, less carnal, more noble way. It underlies the widespread idea that the body is a temple which can be desecrated by immoral activities and contaminants (an idea not unique to religious traditions).

We think there are several other very good candidates for "foundationhood," especially:

6) Liberty/oppression: This foundation is about the feelings of reactance and resentment people feel toward those who dominate them and restrict their liberty. Its intuitions are often in tension with those of the authority foundation. The hatred of bullies and dominators motivates people to come together, in solidarity, to oppose or take down the oppressor. We report some preliminary work on this potential foundation in this paper, on the psychology of libertarianism and liberty.

Much of our present research involves applying the theory to political "cultures" such as those of liberals and conservatives. The current American culture war, we have found, can be seen as arising from the fact that liberals try to create a morality relying primarily on the Care/harm foundation, with additional support from the Fairness/cheating and Liberty/oppression foundations. Conservatives, especially religious conservatives, use all six foundations, including Loyatly/betrayal, Authority/subversion, and Sanctity/degradation. The culture war in the 1990s and early 2000s centered on the legitimacy of these latter three foundations. In 2009, with the rise of the Tea Party, the culture war shifted away from social issues such as abortion and homosexuality, and became more about differing conceptions of fairness (equality vs. proportionality) and liberty (is government the oppressor or defender?). The Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street are both populist movements that talk a great deal about fairness and liberty, but in very different ways, as you can see here, for the Tea Party, and here, for OWS.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 16:17 | 6019520 Anusocracy
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Missing link for those who are not the missing link.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0042366

Understanding Libertarian Morality: The Psychological Dispositions of Self-Identified Libertarians

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 18:12 | 6019961 steelhead23
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Nice post Anus.  However, the institutions surrounding Loyalty/Obedience include religion.  Here is how John Calvin saw the relationship of individual citizens to his/her country:

The third aspect of civil authority is the people that are governed. Calvin believed that every citizen had a duty to obey the government, even when the government was unjust.14 He understood that it is the duty of citizens to respect what God has ordained, leaving vengeance to him. The second duty of citizens is submission. We are to submit to the laws of the government, pay taxes that are levied, and perform required civic duties such as the bearing of arms in defense of the nation. There are certainly exceptions, but unless the government requires a Christian to do what God forbids or forbids them to do what God commands,15 we are called to be model citizens. http://wrs.edu/Materials_for_Web_Site/Journals/16-2_Aug-2009/Cole--Calvi...

Add to that anti-individual liberty screed, the hubris of American Exceptionalism and I believe you will be very close to identifying the cancer that is destroying our human morality.  "We are strong and we are exceptional (better than you), so die so we can correct your mistakes."

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 20:08 | 6020315 Anusocracy
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Morality is sort of like a sense of taste for behaviors.

Innate and individualized. The main difference is that morals have opposites.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 17:02 | 6019672 BlindMonkey
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Pods,

I am a sub vet. We may be slightly crazy, oxygen deprived souls that spent our formative years inside a tube surrounded by enough pressure to ignite the air around us vs drowning. But it is very much like holding a Mensa convention in a biker bar. We are, on balance, extremely smart folks.

Most of us don't subscribe to the MIC template. I'm not saying we alone are enough but I am saying there is hope.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 18:44 | 6020057 Earl Slaughter-...
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Ex-Air Force aircrew here: loadmaster on C5 and C130 weapons platforms. I took part in some good and noble missions, and some I am ashamed of having been part of.

America needs a military-- one that is restrained and seldom used. What we have now is pure insanity; horrible, criminal misuse of force that only endangers the well-being of our nation.

Veterans and active service need to stand against this. I do, and I'll support anyone else who does however I can.

Thu, 04/23/2015 - 08:18 | 6021325 fleur de lis
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Keep it in mind that entire nations and their militaries have been usurped, deceived, and abused by the same nest of parasites since the English Revolution (which wasn't really English), the FR, RR, TR, and CR which were similarly stage managed by outsiders who tailored the violence to each place and time. If you did your best with honor and loyalty you are not the problem. You were simply lied to. Like all the rest of us. The important thing is that you realize it. 

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:22 | 6019282 1000yrdstare
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Downvoted by Bill Krystol?

 

hey Bill......FUCK YOU!

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 17:21 | 6019778 golden torch
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Wed, 04/22/2015 - 14:46 | 6019114 FreeShitter
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Man via woman was corrupted by satanic dna in the beginning, cain murdered abel.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 14:59 | 6019178 pods
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Oh hey, let's toss in religion in there too!  Like enough people haven't died because their God was more Godlike than someone else's God.

pods

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:52 | 6019418 Bay Area Guy
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I particularly like the internecine warfare of various religions that actually have the same God, but have different beliefs that have risen around that God.  The various different Christian religions, the various Muslim sects come to mind.  Then, it's "the mythology surrounding my version of our God is better than the mythology surrounding your version of God so I must kill you."

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 16:09 | 6019487 crisrose
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Telling everyone about your religion is like telling everyone about your sex life.  Church is the moral equivalent of an orgy.  

Keep your relationship with God to yourself you sick perverts!

 

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 16:17 | 6019521 pods
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Come to think about it, I could probably write a book about my sex life.

"In the beginning, I was lonely and scared (to get caught), so luck brought me a woman, and then school went downhill as I chased everything in a mini-skirt."

pods

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 21:42 | 6020561 TheAntiProgressive
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Someone once said yeah but "my invisible God can beat up your invisible God".  Maybe Carlin.....

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 22:15 | 6020666 TheReplacement
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You brought up the "cult of death worship" and then complain when someone mentions religion.  Yeah.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 14:47 | 6019123 trader1
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stop paying taxes to federal government, else be considered an accesory to murder

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:06 | 6019205 KnuckleDragger-X
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It's not the various tax's but the people who create them and spend them. Bribery with bread and circuses while the population is dumbed down has been the order of they day since the early 20th century. The only way out is the destruction of the present regime, one way or another. Meanwhile the only thing you can do is to prepare to ride the storm out and hope the tidal wave of chaos doesn't run over you too badly....

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:17 | 6019256 CH1
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It's not the various tax's but the people who create them and spend them...

Actually, it's the people who obey who keep the barbarity going.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:43 | 6019380 crisrose
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Average IQ in the US is 98.  Dumb as dirt.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:20 | 6019267 kchrisc
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Zion tyranny and DC US war dog is founded and funded upon their Zionist banksters' fraudulent-reserve banking. It precariously depends upon their victims continuing to pay on and service the banksters' fiat-debt. Fiat-debts funded from wealth stolen from the borrowers. If the American people Stopped paying on these so-called debts, followed later by refusal to pay "taxes" to their criminal and Unconstitutional DC US war dog, their whole empire of plunder and tyranny would collapse like the lead balloon it is.

Start with "no." Followed by "no more."

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.

 

The most powerful weapon the American people have is Rejection.

The system of fraud and theft that has been built up upon the backs of the American people is dependent upon our backs. Withdraw our backs, and the whole scheme collapses. This is our greatest weapon.

Quit Paying--Put it into food, and precious metals, etc. They stole whatever "debt money" they loaned you in the first place (fractional reserve banking) and soon you won't be able to pay them anyways.
Quit Obeying--If they are in violation of the Constitution then they are not legitimate anyways.
Quit Playing--Quit being a tool for them to use.

The Four Rs
Rejection: Stop Paying, Stop Obeying, Stop Playing
Revolution: It is inevitable, so prepare, as they are.
Retribution: The guilty must answer for their crimes against the American people and the Constitution.
Restoration: Restore the American people, country and Constitutional republic.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:35 | 6019345 Chupacabra-322
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Peaceful Non- Compliance / Non- Partcipation / Non- CONSENT into the Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORPORATION system of Debt, Bondage & Enslavement.

It's a Criminal Fraud Corporate Entity UNITED STATES, Posing as a functional Governerment of the people, for the people & by the people.

Pack a Gun stop contracting / CONSENTING & being an accessory to the Criminal Fraud via paying taxes to said Criminal Enitity.

It's that simple

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 16:02 | 6019459 sandman.s
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And what?  Go to jail.  I got mouths to feed...

Thu, 04/23/2015 - 01:13 | 6021008 trader1
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Harry Reid says it's voluntary...

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 14:48 | 6019126 HonkyShogun
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It happened when we paid our taxes to support the efforts of Empire-building Neocon Hebrews.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 14:56 | 6019160 Fun Facts
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Seven wars on false pretexts, 4 million muslims dead and counting, no one hanging from ropes at nuremberg.

Israel is just defending itself using the US army - ZWO

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:06 | 6019210 Money Boo Boo
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missed a 0, more like 70 years of false pretext to woar

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 16:07 | 6019480 Anusocracy
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I am quite sure you could extend that to at least the War of Southern Secession.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 14:48 | 6019130 dufferin
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As a citizen, you give the order to your representative to kill people.

so Citizens are the common criminal murderer. By operation of the Law.

so I would advise any One to get in touch with their representative to take position and give clear orDer

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:31 | 6019333 dufferin
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Down voters prove to be deeply ignorant of their ignorance...

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:44 | 6019383 crisrose
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Citizen, voter, and/or taxpayer = blood on your hands.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:50 | 6019406 trader1
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what if you think change is sourced from outside existing orDers?

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 14:53 | 6019148 walküre
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The world is your battlefield. Sooner you all realize this and defend yourselves accordingly, the higher your chances that your family's DNA survives. If you don't have kids, you're just wasting. Maybe create a legacy by supporting another family close-up.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:09 | 6019216 Mike Honcho
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If banging a woman without wearing a Jimmy Hat gave your life purpose, then you are still a waste.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:15 | 6019248 walküre
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Whatever dude. My 4 offspring are going to compete with your offspring. Oh wait, you got none.

Nothing else matters.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:27 | 6019320 Ayreos
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Only one kind of man lives through his offspring. The dead kind.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 16:00 | 6019450 crisrose
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Well if your offspring are losers...

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:52 | 6019421 trader1
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why not cooperate?

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 17:22 | 6019784 Charming Anarchist
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If that is how you define fatherhood, then you are  hero! 

<<If banging a woman without wearing a Jimmy Hat gave your life purpose, then you are still a waste.>>

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 14:55 | 6019156 Prober
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poor propaganda

a putin stooge

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 20:41 | 6020411 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Butthole Prober again shows his level - the level of banal troll.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:03 | 6019187 firewolfsblog
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#caring

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:03 | 6019189 Raoul_Luke
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Isn't there a broken window fallacy in there somewhere?

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:11 | 6019213 Kirk2NCC1701
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Even though Europeans have been psychologically castrated, when it comes to gun ownership, if they at least had one handgun (9 mm Beretta, CZ, Glock, H&K, Walther), and a hunting rifle (shotgun), the MF'ing assassins might think twice. Especially if the neighbors were equally armed and came to their assistance.

And there is such a thing as DIY body armor. And what about Neighborhood Watch? God knows that these people love to keep an eye on each other, i.e. who has what and what they're doing -- it's in the European genes, FFS.

"Freedom-loving people is as freedom-loving people does. They deserve every bit of the freedom or tyranny that they have." - Kirk

p.s. The "guy in the sky" ain't coming to your rescue. I'm pretty sure that He's not gonna beam down for dumb asses like that. I wouldn't.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:32 | 6019339 TeethVillage88s
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People are the Problem and the Solution.

Ideology or Doctrine traps people into thinking we have European or North American Civilizations that don't have need for Transparency and that Secrets are "A-Okay".

- The Humanist View is that men have negative emotions and behavior, they feel envy, jealousy, greed, and they commit crimes of violence, fraud, accounting control fraud, and they socialize their losses while paying government officials "hush" money and money to pass their so called Laws

But notice British, European, and US Trading Empires and their minions love Violence and Murder when the "Blame: can be Diffused, responsibility Denied if needed, and the Free Press can be Controlled through "Proxy" MSM Owners.

In fact I saw you have to go back to Smedley Butler to look at the US's entry into Global Trade. War is a Racket. US Fruit and Produce comes from off shore after all.

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Did we REALLY win Freedom, Liberty & Equality as clearly not shown by Hillary Clinton Deleting Emails, and Victoria Nuland destroying another countries Sovereignty
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If we have many poor people who have no property and all the property is bought up and held by the State or the Wealthy... where was the Land Reform?? If the FED is driving Housing Bubbles while holding down wages and increasing our cost of Home Insurance, Property Prices, Property Tax... and condoning BAILOUTS FOR BIG CORPORATIONS who are Owned by the VERY WEALTHY...

well it doesn't sound like Liberty & Freedom.

A Humanist approach would Reduce Secrecy in Government & Military & Banking and Reveal the special Privilege that Bankers and Hedge Fund Owners have, as an Elite Class.

A Humanist Approach would REVEAL the Wealth Transfer to the MIC especially in Wartime and Especially in Useless, Unjustified War, and the Human Cost of Refugees from Iraq, Libya, Syria.

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Wed, 04/22/2015 - 22:22 | 6020681 TheReplacement
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The point of it all that the VAST majority of people do not understand is that if the "guy in the sky" did come down to rescue us it would defeat the whole purpose of our existence.  We have free will.  The point is to see how we use it.  Trial by fire, so to speak.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:09 | 6019222 assistedliving
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watching a Late Night show (rarely but...) interviewer walking some beach asking who our VP is, who their Senator is, identify a photo of our Presidential candidates...painful.  But ask about SpongeBob, Kardashian's or some other nonsense and they answer in detail.

there is a rude awaking coming our way

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:11 | 6019234 besnook
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like money, bad people chase out good people. who are the bad people? it is pretty obvious except to those who don't want you to see who they are. dare utter the obvious at your professional life's peril.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:14 | 6019246 are we there yet
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Quadafi was terriable but now that he is gone his country is worse.,

Sadam was terrriable but now that he is gone his country is worse.

Asad is terrriable but when the west removes him I think Syria will be even worse.

 

In general, Islam, is absolutist, and makes crazy people, and US politicians and military can't fix crazy.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:18 | 6019262 walküre
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If Islamic State ever reforms and becomes truly pluralistic, I wonder if the credit will go to US led invasions of these countries.

As far as pluralism is concerned, the Islamists don't know any of it.

When Islamists migrate into Europe or North America, they should be required to either pass a pluralist litmus test (I got some ideas) or fuck right off where they came from.

There is little to no value in allowing these Islamist immigrants to come into France, Germany, Holland or anywhere else in Europe.

Pure class warfare and idealist bullshit propaganda by the elite.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 16:10 | 6019493 TeethVillage88s
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Yes seems another way to divide all of us citizens and add competition to our search for wages, careers, advancement, inventions, capitalism, ....and our political and philosophical Ideas too!!!

There must be a good word for this watering down of our lives, sociopolitical lives...

I guess we call it Globalism, living without borders, living without social borders.

The New Age Psychology in the USA would say we need to establish "Personal Boundaries"

- Looks like the Progressives and the Liberals would prefer the USA to be more like Europe with a kind of Multiculturalism where many speak 3 or more languages and have learned many European Cultures and Histories

- But even Europe has problems with Multiculturalism, and fatigue with immigrants, poor integration of immigrants, probably undocumented immigrants as well

- USA seems ill suited to becoming multicultural, and makes even those on the left stop to wonder who's plan is it that the Obama Administration is following (is it mandatory for Democratic Presidents and Republican Presidents to leave the borders wide open and establish expensive programs to accommodate the Illegal Workers and Families... Clearly the US Chamber of Commerce is behind this for one as the Maids in Hotels, Cooks in Restaurants, Cheap Labor in Construction, Landscaping, home Cleaning... all of this benefits investors and the wealthy

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- Class Warfare is as old as the British, French, Spanish, Dutch, and Danish Royal Families, Right?
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Is it Class Warfare to allow Banks to Create Fiat seemingly without Limits... and to allow the Federal Government to Spend without Limits???

Sure looks that way while they drive out US Jobs, Crush US Wages and double again the cost of Housing, Property Tax, and Home Insurance. We can't give an Interest Rate for Savings Accounts and Crush US Wealth, but we have plenty of money for social programs for Immigrants

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:15 | 6019251 Icelandicsaga.....
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From War is a Racket by MOH recipient Marine General Smedley Butler .. 1933 ...

.""""""The only way to smash this racket is to conscript capital and industry and labor before the nations manhood can be conscripted. One month before the Government can conscript the young men of the nation – it must conscript capital and industry and labor. Let the officers and the directors and the high-powered executives of our armament factories and our munitions makers and our shipbuilders and our airplane builders and the manufacturers of all the other things that provide profit in war time as well as the bankers and the speculators, be conscripted – to get $30 a month, the same wage as the lads in the trenches get.

Let the workers in these plants get the same wages – all the workers, all presidents, all executives, all directors, all managers, all bankers –

yes, and all generals and all admirals and all officers and all politicians and all government office holders – everyone in the nation be restricted to a total monthly income not to exceed that paid to the soldier in the trenches!

Let all these kings and tycoons and masters of business and all those workers in industry and all our senators and governors and majors pay half of their monthly $30 wage to their families and pay war risk insurance and buy Liberty Bonds.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:17 | 6019258 Salzburg1756
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"Yidocracy: love it or leave it" 

Future presidential slogan of some very trendy candidate.

 

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:17 | 6019259 WTFUD
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For Peacemaker substitute Widowmaker.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:22 | 6019274 Kirk2NCC1701
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Can somebody explain why the tables can't be turned in a tit-for-tat, eye-for-an-eye manner?

Oh wait, I forgot... An 'eye-for-an-eye' is a Jewish thing, but good little Christian Flock are supposed to "Turn the other cheek". Ok, sarcasm and cultural/religious irony aside...

Why can't Ukie Junta and their Centurions be targeted for execution? You gonna tell me that there are NO private contractors/pros available, no Resistance Fighters who can organize and resist? Really? They had them during WW2, so why not now?

And why is the FSB not helping out -- at least with "training, guns & ammo"? Where's this "Asymmetric Response" we heard about? FFS.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 22:05 | 6020636 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

Can somebody explain why the tables can't be turned in a tit-for-tat, eye-for-an-eye manner?

No reason they can't be. Colonel Cassad (himself honored with an entry on the list by the scum that run the 'peacemaker' site) published a list of the Banderatards that make up the 'Tornado' punitive battalion, which includes names, photos, and other information.

yandex machine translation:
https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.ru/cassad.net/analytics/1564-polnyy...

original article (in Russian):
http://cassad.net/analytics/1564-polnyy-spisok-lic-sostoyaschih-v-karate...

Yandex translation of the first sentence, which explains the source of many 'Tornado' members: "Most of the people from the list included in the punitive battalion Shahtersk, which was dissolved in the fall of 2014 for numerous acts of looting, robbery, murder and moral decay."

Imagine a 'battalion' so loathesome that the Ukies themselves dissolved it.

Also, don't miss the lurid "biographical" sketch of one of these prancing "heroes" of the Ukraine (be sure to click the 18+ link in the article to expand the photo selection):

yandex machine translation:
https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.ru/cassad.net/analytics/1428-obratn...

original (in Russian):
http://cassad.net/analytics/1428-obratnaya-storona-ruslana-onischenko.html

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:24 | 6019293 Tigermoth
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You can add this new one that expands the field of "who benefits" abit:

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/montenegrin-parliament-urges-pol...

Montenegro Police Urged to Solve Ex-MP's Murder

Montenegro's ruling party and opposition urged the police to thoroughly investigate the murder of former lawmaker Sasa Markovic, who was shot dead on Friday. 

 

Markovic, 48, who was an MP for the Liberal Alliance of Montenegro before leaving politics in 2005, was murdered in Becici near the coastal town of Budva on Friday evening. 

He was assassinated in what media reports called a "typical ambush" while approaching his home. He was in a car when an unknown attacker appeared out of the nearby forest and fired several bullets.

Markovic was hit in the head and died immediately.

"That was a cowardly and brutal murder this has to be the most serious warning to the responsible authorities to act more efficiently to prevent killings and also to deal more seriously with unsolved murders," Nuhodzic said.

 

One of his anti- NATO tweets:

 

Rights organization Amnesty International accused the NATO forces of committing war crimes.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:25 | 6019301 Ness.
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Stocks - new highs across the board!!  #nomorerigging #wegotthebrownguy #BTFD

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:32 | 6019315 Tigermoth
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Also for the bigger picture:

http://thesaker.is/what-does-putin-want-a-major-analysis-by-rostislav-is...

"... War is only an intermediate step signifying the impossibility of compromise. Its purpose is to create new conditions whereby compromise is possible or to show that there is no longer any need for it, with the disappearance of one side of the conflict. When it is time for compromise, when the fighting is over and the troops go back to their barracks and the generals begin writing their memoirs and preparing for the next war, that is when the real outcome of the confrontation is determined by politicians and diplomats at the negotiating table..."

"...To understand how, when and on what conditions military activity can end, we need to know what the politicians want and how they see the conditions of the postwar compromise. Then it will become clear why military action turned into a low-intensity civil war with occasional truces, not only in the Ukraine but also in Syria.

Obviously, the views of Kiev politicians are of no interest to us because they don’t decide anything. The fact that outsiders govern the Ukraine is no longer concealed..."

"...Nor are we interested in the European Union’s position. Much depended on the EU until the summer of last year, when the war could have been prevented or stopped at the outset. A tough, principled antiwar stance by the EU was needed. It could have blocked U.S. initiatives to start the war and would have turned the EU into a significant independent geopolitical player. The EU passed on that opportunity and instead behaved like a faithful vassal of the United States..."

"...What should interest us is the opinions of the two main players that determine the configuration of the geopolitical front and in fact are fighting for victory in the new generation of war – the network-centric Third World War. These players are the United States and Russia..."

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:31 | 6019331 Itinerant
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The media involvement is 100% clear just from the term "pro-Russian separatist".

Do we refer to Frenchmen as pro-French or Swedes as pro-Swede. Only of Russians to we say "pro-Russian": How could they be anything else???

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 18:01 | 6019913 falak pema
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Marine le Pen is pro french ONLY...and based on race.

Same for the Eastern European "nationalists" as for Golden Dawn.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:33 | 6019343 Magooo
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This is RUBBISH!

 

Does this fucking idiot not know that America celebrates genocide?   Yes every year a turkey is basted and everyone gathers to watch triple header NFL games raising a glass to the murder of millions of natives.

 

There is nothing intrinsically wrong with this --- that is HOW THE WORLD WORKS.

 

You either kill or you are killed.  Survival of the Fittest.

 

And nothing has changed.  We are still competing for scarce resources -- actually resources are getting even scarcer and the population of the planet is increasing every single day.

 

And as expected the violence is heating up as we look to rip each others throats out to get our share of what is left.

 

Take a pack of dogs.  Starve them for 4 days. Then toss a hunk of meat in their midst.  

 

Humans are FAR more capable of violence than these dogs of course.  We use our big fat brains to dream up excellent and vile ways to kill each other for the meat.  We torture, we mass-murder.  The only limitation on our ability to create new ways to off each other is our imagination.

 

So please do us a favour and FUCK OFF with this bullshit.  

 

And anyone who is cheering for poor Russia or poor China or poor Iraq of poor Libya ---  you can fuck right off too --- because if you get what you want the tables will eventually turn and YOU will be the one with the boot on your neck.  Because they will rip your fucking head off to live like you do.

 

That said, we will eventually turn on each other because when resources run short, the clan will splinter and it will be every man for himself in this battle to survive.

 

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 15:47 | 6019400 Grouchy-Bear
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You are sick and need help...

Thu, 04/23/2015 - 07:06 | 6021223 Magooo
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You are fucking stupid and you will never get it no matter if the facts were rammed down your throat.

 

 

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 16:08 | 6019465 Anusocracy
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Apparently you haven't been able to evolve past the level of an animal at all.

So please go live in a jungle with your fellow animals.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 17:02 | 6019676 gcjohns1971
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Mmmm....not so much.

ACTUALLY, most of the Indian tribes of the Eastern US are still around. It is just that most of them no longer think of themselves as  Indians anymore.

As of 200 years ago, during the 1750's 'French and Indian' war, ironically many of the people on BOTH sides looked the same...because they'd been inter-marrying for the previous 200 years.

So you had blond-haired blue-eyed 'Indians' with the last name 'McCormack' ...but who lived in 'Indian' villages and who had other more native-appearing relatives, and you had 'British Subjects' named 'Chavis' (Native American Name) who lived in every way indistinguishable from descendants of the English...because they WERE.

Both our 'McCormack' and our 'Chavis' had BOTH English AND Indian blood.

That really is a fact.  You can read the contemporary accounts and see the names for yourselves. 

Most of the Eastern tribes simply BLENDED.  The Lumbee, and several other tribes are still around...but only inasmuch as they choose to make their heritage an issue.  Are they half-white?  Or are they half-indian?  Or do they remain ambiguously silent, and make no issue of it?

But it is much more popular to extend the 'Trail of Tears' of the 1870's backwards in time all the way to the 15th Century.  That was an idea the Communists inserted about a century ago.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 17:19 | 6019766 falak pema
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that was the whole theme of the last of the Mohicans; the blending of america as the last noble of the old indigenous order died and a new breed of mixed americans was born.

That Statue of Liberty did not say it differently one hundred years after the seven years war, period which was the backdrop of the Mohican tale. 

America was born as a mixed breed where blood and religion did not count.

And now we talk about colour and tribe...whew, what a regression.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 22:22 | 6020680 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

Does this fucking idiot not know that America celebrates genocide?   Yes every year a turkey is basted and everyone gathers to watch triple header NFL games raising a glass to the murder of millions of natives.

There is nothing intrinsically wrong with this --- that is HOW THE WORLD WORKS.

Yeah, yeah, human nature is bad...

Well known song sung by US citizens to hide the core issue: US citizenism.

Romans did not hide behind humanity. They did what they did because they were Romans.

That crap of human nature and pretending to sum up the whole human kind is something new and that was brought by the US.

The US solution is certainly not to deter criminality but to make criminality the default behavior ("after all, it's just human nature") and prevail as the best criminals ever known in human history.

That is the US answer.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 22:37 | 6020722 TheReplacement
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Both points of view have validity.  Human nature is not a monolithic structure of behavior but a tapestry of varying behaviors that are always present.  This color will ebb while another will flow and all will reverse and recede again and again.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 16:28 | 6019531 Luther van Theses
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Wed, 04/22/2015 - 16:28 | 6019553 Luther van Theses
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The United States is in chaos because it has become too rich, too developed, and too productive to be a capitalist country any more, and chaos internally breeds chaos externally.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 22:38 | 6020724 TheReplacement
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Rich?

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 16:29 | 6019564 gcjohns1971
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Pretty fair analysis.

He only left out one part...  That the use of Russian Regulars in the Crimea assession was a blunder on the Russian side that OBLIGATED Europe and the US to be involved.... or everyone in Europe would be soon be eyeing their neighbor's 'breathing room', as had been the case for the whole of recorded history previous.

I know that this is unpopular to bring up.  But the point is that the ENDS DO NOT JUSTIFY THE MEANS.  Both ENDS and MEANS are part of one contiguous whole.

This is like the run-up to WWI.  Entangling alliances. Muscular (and frankly brutish) foreign policy without regard for consequences...ON ALL SIDES.

We are sleep-walking into WWIII here. 

We at least need to wake the hell up before pushing the 'Easy' button ... only to discover that it is the 'Armageddon' button instead.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 16:45 | 6019595 TeethVillage88s
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No clue why Europe puts up with the Mind COntrol directing them toward a new Cold War or Hot War.

Europe is full of Peaceniks FFS.

Yeah, everyone wants to stand with the big Superpower, Share his power, make a better career out of it, enhance their own power and status, and use the Superpower to Energize a New European Union complete with new Power Structure and Power Players... well and of course US Leases Bases in Europe and Around the World and provides Financing and Grants.

I predicted that NATO would break up within 5-6 years last year when Fighting Broke out in Ukraine and USA pushed for power and war.

Where are the Voices of European Survivors of WWI, WWII, of East Germany and the USSR?

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- We need a New Voice of America Radio Playing in Europe, Canada, UK & USA - An Ethical One
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Voices of Europe are as Silent as MSM has Stuffed their Voices.

Why Don't Israeli's Voice Against US & NATO Saber Rattling for War and Destruction of the Mid-East??? Maybe the Holocaust Survivors are now mostly passed away. Maybe Israelis are afraid to lift Voices against the USA. Maybe the US MSM is Denying a Voice to Anti-US & Anti-NATO Protestors or Dissidents.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 16:47 | 6019609 gcjohns1971
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NATO should have broken up 20 years ago.

The reason it didn't is because there was no alternative guarantor of European security.

Europe is full of Peaceniks because they aren't in charge of their own security.

When the security buck stops on European desks again, that will change.

Just wait.  If the EU lives long enough to federalize, there will be a Euro Army, and NATO will go away.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 16:50 | 6019619 Bankster Kibble
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Europe and US were already involved, right up to our eyebrows.  Even before Yanukovich was deposed, we were angling for that port at Sevastopol.  We worked with the neo-nazi gang-bangers who were already responsible for a massacre of Crimean bus passengers before the ex-president fled the country.  Even if the Kremlin discounted the likelihood that there would be civilian blood in the streets if it didn't act (which I believe was a valid concern) there was no way Russia would allow NATO to just waltz in and kick them out of Crimea.  There was more than one very strong motivation on the part of the Russians to act rapidly.  Our "crocodile tears" for poor Kiev don't weigh much in the balance, given that we enthusiastically finagled Kosovo away from Serbia.  Russia was just taking a page from our notebook when it sponsored a vote in Crimea.

 

I do agree that we in America are sleep-walking into WWIII.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 22:44 | 6020742 TheReplacement
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Real politic, Russia had little choice but to jump on Crimea.  They simply could not allow it to become a NATO base.  They absolutely had to deny Crimea to the USN and USAF.  Russia does not seem to be sleepwalking toward WWIII but rather are being dragged into it.

Have you ever been in a bar and had some goon come up to you, try to take something (a drink or a lady or a pool table) from you and then want to fight when you stood up to them?  Sometimes they back down when you defend yourself and sometimes they are just looking for an excuse to fight you.  Sometimes you just have to fight as there is simply no other choice.

 

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 17:13 | 6019738 falak pema
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well said sir ! 

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 18:19 | 6019981 Westcoastliberal
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Since the goal of the neo-cons in charge is a "New World Order" (i.e. two classes: Oligarchs and Serfs that serve them), they need to remove all the barriers and Putin is standing in the way.  After he is removed who's left? Certainly not China or Japan since we control them in various ways.  Only problem with their plan is Putin has nukes and other WMD in quantity as Raul notes. And we should all be on notice the neo-cons in charge have drafted "thinktank" plans for survivable nuclear war.  They're not saying who the survivors will be, but that's where things are going.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 18:51 | 6020077 Infinite QE
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Hopefully Putin, or someone has the list of all of these zionist bolshevik bastards and when the clock strikes the appointed hour, splish splash they are taking a bath.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 18:59 | 6020093 datura
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How did we all become murderers? We (and now I mean the entire West) live in a fascist system. Being an indirect murderer is included. I bet many Germans in the Nazi Germany were also asking themselves: how did we become murderers? How did this all happen? And all those other times in history when common people let themselves be dragged to wars. All those illusions that if there is an oppressive regime, people will definitely overthrow it. But it just does not happen that way. We will just suffer quietly, watch the killings like sllly sheep and wait, until it is too late. Like here in Zerohedge, there are many people who think that we cannot have strong leaders (like Putin) and that it is a shame, when Americans think they should need a strong leader. But what then is the alternative? Continuing to suffer like good sheep? There will never be any Second American Revolution. It just won’t happen. I would like it to happen so much, but now I know it just won’t. Here, in EU, more and more people are admiring Putin and flocking to his side. You may judge us sentimental, you may think it is silly, but what are we supposed to do here? If even Americans, such an old great example for us, cannot make a revolution, how can we??? So, yes, for more and more common people Putin remains the only hope. So much so that we now have a lot of EU people, who would be even fighting FOR Russia against the USA, if there is any war in Europe. It is possible to chat with Putin directly through the internet and the comments there are just amazing. He posed us one question: “In one word, I want to know, what Putin means to you... One word”. And a great majority of people wrote: FREEDOM. So amazing, isn’t it??? For an alleged “dictator”? And these were people from all corners of the world, South America, Germany, Egypt, India, Vietnam, Italy, France, Greece and many others. He also posted that he made himself a nice logo reading: "THE PRESIDENT, WHO WILL SAVE THE WORLD FROM A GREAT WAR DISASTER. What do you think, is it nice?" And someone asked: “Can you do it?” His response: "I'll do my best." Or his very human comments like: "Sometimes the only thing you need is a strong and warm hug to continue." or "We need more love in this mad, mad world." Oh yes, sometimes of course also funny super-confident comments like: “Don’t you know, I am the ONE and ONLY.” He has an amazing personality. No Hitler nor Stalin can compare, those were just very stupid fools. Perhaps then this is what it takes not to abuse power (if you have too much of it): an amazing level of intelligence and wisdom. Unfortunately, I think such men are born only every few centuries or so. That’s the problem of humanity and that is why all Western leaders are such stupid fools. Because it seems that, in time, all systems accumulate too much power in someone’s hands and democracy is no exception. But, do you still wonder, why so many people (from different countries and cultures) do consider him “the leader of the world”. One German woman also wrote: “That is a shame and pity that there are no other men in the West like you, so you wouldn’t have it so hard and they could help. Still, we do hope you can pull it alone.” And yes, still just a little hope that there will be more men in the West with his courage and actually DO something? But looking at the zigzagging Syriza, I am not sure of that anymore.    

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 21:20 | 6020506 acetinker
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JHFC, dude!  Punctuation (and brevity) is important!

Other than that, I think I agree with you.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 19:08 | 6020151 grunk
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Eastern Ukraine...

U.S.A.'s gas chamber?

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 19:28 | 6020199 frankly scarlet
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yeah well...so what,  my kids gotta have braces and my other kid's sports team has an outa state road trip coming up and the wife's car needs new ball joints and the playoffs are on and......so what's this your sayin'?   some folks in the Ulraine are murdering each other at our govt's behest,  so whata ya want me to do about it?  gotta go the guys are comin' over to watch the game and I gotta get some beers in...yeah nice talkin' to ya on, whats that place called again...oh yeah Ukrainia....

 

and so goes the country

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 19:47 | 6020259 David Wooten
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"When did we all become murderers?"

I've stopped voting so I am no longer responsible for what the bastards in Washington do.

Thu, 04/23/2015 - 01:51 | 6020974 TNTARG
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In our continent, we could ask the remaining native Americans from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego.

Each one of those who came to this amazing land was a murderer.

And then it went on and on.

All History I've read seems to point to Europeans as the most ferocious murderers of all times among Mankind.

Your murderers, ours (those in control to commit free killings) come mostly from Europe.

That said being myself daughter of an Italian man.

The murderers in control manage to write History in their advantage, and so was pictured, i.e., "Attila the Hun" by the Romans.

These days, after all the damage made to Asia and Africa along time, we continue to see desperate people trying to reach the terrible Europe, flying from death to a miserable life in the continent which keeps destroying (together with the controlled US) their World. 

In their horrific journey, most of them die in the Mediterranean sea. I'm always amazed the Mediterranean isn't red yet. A red sea of blood.

I'd like to think the Americas still have a chance, if at some point we'll be able to recognize our american identity as a whole.Yeah, Utopia.

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 20:41 | 6020410 acetinker
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I think I'll go for a walk, 'cause I ain't dead yet.  Nonsense! You say?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grbSQ6O6kbs

Wed, 04/22/2015 - 22:52 | 6020594 earleflorida
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@ RIM

Thankyou for your candid articles regarding the leadership of the USSA today and yesteryear!

Sadly,... when history is written in 30 yrs. or so when the west is no longer a superpower, the people of the west will be found 'guilty-by-association'.

The MIC is now completely in control of the free worlds MSM, with a myriad of fundamental liberties gone forever. We now live in a plutocratic/ fascist symbiotic state.

 USSA, Europe[Britain/ France], Canada, and Japan run the show of the WTO-- this is the "QUAD" which decides for the twenty-one richest sub-set nations in a 'World-Trade-Organization' consisting of 163 {(23 observers with Afghanistan at top of list)(2015)} members where only written-policy is dictated by USSA, MultiNational Corporation!

And ironically the winners are Lockheed Martin {(Tx)(Bush #41#43 Oil & WMD)} and Britains' BAE Systems, which supplies all the best of 'Biological Weapons to the highest bidder. BTW... Britain is a close second only to the USSA. Indeed, we here in the west hear about Russia and China ratcheting-up arms sales, but its all USSA propaganda. Period!

Ref:     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Companies_by_arms_sales

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Organization

Again, Thankyou Sir

jmo

Thu, 04/23/2015 - 00:37 | 6020948 WolfgangCire
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In the year of 2000, there were nine countries without a Rothschild owned Central Bank:

Afghanistan -  US Invaded
Iraq -  US Invaded
Sudan - US Invaded
Libya -  US Invaded
Syria -  US Invasion (in process)
North Korea - US Enemy
Iran - US Enemy
Venezuela - US Enemy
Cuba - US Enemy

March 2013 - Russia: Putin purges Rothschild bankers and takes control of central bank.
November 2013 - US ignites Ukraine crisis/Anti-Russian propaganda

Thu, 04/23/2015 - 00:45 | 6020969 logical-different
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I have to agree with everything stated in this writeup.   Living in North America the USA and the Canadian government are complicit in war crimes.   Canada took part in decimating Libya and now it is nothing more than a failed state.   Thousands of innocent people were killed in the process.   The USA has for years been involved in the genocide of innocent people by engaging in illegal wars, torturing and assinations of people throughout the world

I was in my 20's during the Vietnam war and witnessed everday in Newark, New York burials at a grave located in this town.   All were accompanied with a 20 gun salute.   It amazed me how many people were being returned from Vietnam to be buried.  During these times many people marched against the Vietnam war and in every city.  

Today, very little is being done in the way of marching against these wars and they seem to be endless.  The university kids led the way in protest back then but nothing today.   Where are the marches against spying being conducted on the people.   Even Canada is about to spy on the citizens without any oversite on these jackasses to prevent illegal activities by CSIS and the RCMP.   God knows both these agencies have been screwups in the past.

One of them was Maher Arar.   As a result of the RCMP being over zelous and based entirely on assumptions they advised the CIA that he was in the USA.   The CIA had him sent to Syria to be tortured.   The RCMP were well aware that there was no evidence to support their assumptions.   Even the CIA stated that Arar was not a terrorist but a CIA head had him sent to Syria anyways.

ARAR sued and the Canadian government gave him over 10 million dollars with an apology.

CSIS was involved in spying against the Brazil government and this information was not forth coming when the shit hit the fan.  In fact they destroyed all their papers and the CSIS people lied about it.   This is common but who are they working for.   Actualy, they were spying for mining corporations and not terrorism as we are told so many times that they'd be working towards.

Now Canada will have CSIS and the RCMP competing against each other and trying to out do each other in a competive race to screw fellow Canadians.

Canada and their fearless leader Prime Minister Harper are being duped as puppets by the USA and will have your emails watched, bank accounts surrendered and a whole host of privacy concerns that you will not be able to complain about.

WHY ARE WE ABOUT TO WITNESS THIS AGAINST THE PEOPLE?- BECAUSE WE ARE ALL A BUNCH OF SHEEP AND WILL DO ANYTHING AS LONG AS WE CAN BE PROMISED THE LIES THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT WITHOUT EVEN A WHIMPER.

WAKE UP EVERYONE AND PROTEST WITH VIGOR.

 

 

 

 

Thu, 04/23/2015 - 02:31 | 6021069 Debugas
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the right term to describe how the western population thinks - Ignorance

Thu, 04/23/2015 - 07:05 | 6021218 Magooo
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America started of on a murderous rampage (Indians) then shifted to the Mexicans (stealing California etc) and they have never looked back. 

 

The US has been behind murder and torture throughout the world including virtually every country in south central america, the middle east and an assortment of other countries

 

Always cloaked by some bullshit veil such as fighting communism or terrorism.   

 

The US is murder inc.   That is why it has been the top dog globally for decades.

 

And before them the Brits, the Spanish, the Romans, the Mongol Hordes etc etc etc were murder inc... and they ran the world.

 

When did we become murderers -- IS THIS FUCKING GUY FOR REAL?

Thu, 04/23/2015 - 07:44 | 6021280 datura
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yeah, but the problem now is that place Washington decided to attack. Not only is it not in the Middle East, it is in Europe. But Washington is now literally banging on the door of a nuclear power. Native Americans couldnt nuke you. No one from the Middle East could nuke you, or even just kill many millions of you in a conventional fight in just few months. This should be a huge difference from the point of view of survival instincts. But it seems Americans lost even those! So perhaps the question should rather be, when did Americans loose their survival instincts? I think I already know that. 

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