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Running From Police "Often" A "Death Sentence," Former Cop Says
Earlier today we brought you the story of Texas Department of Public Safety trooper Abraham Martinez, whose flying jumpkick has now been officially enshrined in the annals of police dash cam history. As it turns out, we have The Austin American Statesman to thank for the footage. The newspaper recently took an in-depth look at the Texas DPS’ use of force during pursuits. Here’s an excerpt:
The trooper who shot and kicked him, Abraham Martinez, last year received a minor penalty for the incident — three days off without pay. Yet the fact that a traffic infraction could escalate into a lengthy, high-speed motorcycle pursuit ending in gunshots provides a graphic illustration of how a relatively permissive DPS culture of use-of-force during pursuits is out of step with evolving national standards, experts said. A leading researcher on police pursuits, University of South Carolina criminal justice professor Geoffrey Alpert, called the agency’s policy permitting troopers to shoot at fleeing vehicles “stupid.”
Fortunately, no one was killed in that particular incident, but as we’ve seen recently — the most poignant example being the shooting death of a fleeing, unarmed Walter Scott by a South Carolina officer earlier this month — running from the police can end fatally. Incidents like that which unfolded in South Carolina have inflamed already fragile race relations across the US and now, former Alabama state trooper Orrin Hudson has a simple message for African Americans who are confronted by the police: "I've said it before, and I'll say it again: In a situation with the police, it's not immediately about who is right or wrong, it's about staying alive.”
Here is the 6-year police veteran’s “Open Letter To Unarmed African Americans”:
Too many unarmed African American men are losing their lives to white police officers, and most of the time justice is not being served. But even if justice is served, a valuable life has already been lost…
1) Don’t run. Although running from the police should not be a death sentence, it often ends up this way. So don’t do it! Doing so will heighten the aggression of an officer, especially if he/she is not sure if you are armed. It also puts them in a position where they have to make spur-of-the-moment decisions, which increases the chance of an officer deciding to end your life. So stay put!
2) Show respect at all times. A police officer’s duty is to serve and protect, but if he/she is out of line or bullying you, continue to be respectful. Say “sir” and “no sir,” and “may I” and “thank you!” These will keep the situation from escalating. If the officer is violating your rights in any way, you can fight this matter at a later and safer time.
3) Keep your hands where they can be seen. Do not make the officer feel threatened in any way. At all times, keep your hands visible. Many police officers, especially white police officers, will feed into stereotypes. They may be assuming that you have a weapon just because you are Black or because they feel you look like you are up to no good!
4) You have the right to remain silent. If you feel that you are being wrongfully arrested, you do not have to speak on it as this likely will not change the officer’s mind. Keeping quiet protects you legally, and also keeps the situation calm and peaceful.
5) Sign the ticket and leave. If you are being pulled over for speeding, simply sign the ticket and leave. Signing the ticket does not mean that you are admitting guilt; its only a promise to appear in court on the date listed on the ticket. Arguing with the officer about it will only make the situation worse, and perhaps raise his level of aggression.
Mr. Hudson now runs a non-profit organization that seeks to promote better decision making among urban youth and adults.
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Is that Running towards them
OR
Is that Running Away from them?
you need to stand still,a step in any direction is escape attempt, jump is attempt to fly
Crying means you're guilty. Sentence: Death
im not joking now, it's basic war rules, soon in usa...
White people already know this.
You have train them well=)
So, they get to kill you if you run.
Sounds like freedom.
orwell - freedoom is slavery
"How do you tell the difference between a VC and a well trained VC? The well trained VC don't run"
Coming soon to a city near you
If you run and get killed its your fault
I'm sick of the bullshit about blacks being targetted or unfairly profiled by the cops when whites are the most likely race to be shot by percentage of violent crimes commited.
Fuck this race baiting bullshit.
Seriously, Bro, it is not just race baiting. As a white American living in a latin country, there is no question that the Police treat non whites worse in most instances. I have seen it for myself many times.
I have also seen the same in the good ol' USSA. Whenever I have visited Black friends, and we go out socializing, they are far more likely to be stopped and frisked than I am.
Having said this, the Police are eager to abuse and kill without discrimination once they go on the attack. When their bloodlust is up, they will kill any and everything that threatens them. Google Youtube and see how one cop killed a threatening chihuahua. I hope his 'brother' officers laughed in his face afterwards, for being such a cruel wimp.
Personally, I look forward to the day when they are replaced by Robocops and get their teeth smashed in, just like the rest of us.
Damn I didn't know old Orrin was a former cop.
In case you guys didn't know, Orrin "Checkmate" Hudson is pretty much like the black Bobby Fischer. I played him once in a circuit game back in '82.
I wonder if he was a cop before or after?
This open letter say's "Let us cops be fucking pricks. You need to act in a certain way to calm our bitch asses down. Fight it in the safety of a courtroom (and it will be our word against yours but hey... you're alive!)."
Fuck the police. The best police is a well-armed resident.
I especially like the "fight it in court" meme.
Like after you fight the 5 dollar bag of heroin we toss on the ground next to the .38 we filed off the numbers on.
"And when he is trying to go balls-deep in you, try to relax as that will avoid more tearing than is required."
I act like dick= I get my teeth kicked in or have more charges brought.
They act like dick= Well fuck, there ain't no consequence is there?
pods
I dunno, I got away with screaming at an APD cop once. But I also had about 200 witnesses. The cocksucker cussed at me because I didn't follow an order that he never gave me, then when I got mouthy with him, he pointed his pepper spray at me and asked if I wanted to get sprayed. I told him that I'd sue his ass and go after his job and it disappeared, then I repeatedly asked him what city ordinance I had broken so loud that people 4 or 5 blocks away could hear me. But there were witnesses, so he had to put up with the humiliation in front of all of his subordinates. This was before the days of cell phone cameras though. Take video of all of your police interactions if you can, because, as has been said, it will be your word against theirs, and juries like to believe that police don't lie.
Man you got some big stones!
kudos
pods
Chris Rock took care of this years ago. We know "how not to get your ass kicked by the police!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8
Like I said, I had about 200 witnesses. That, and the cocky way the motherfucker said "I thought I told you to leave, get the fuck out of here" just rubbed me the wrong fucking way. I prefer to avoid conflict, but once I'm in it, it's like a switch gets flipped. The fucker flipped that switch.
Also, with APD, you can ask them if they are familiar with 42USC S 1983, and if they are, they know that the chief justice in the court that a case arising under that would be argued in hates APD. But make sure that you're recording!
If you see blue lights or people at your front door with guns, your options are:
1. Surrender
2. Flee and gamble on being killed or wounded
3. Stand and fight.
Since the East German people set the model for the American sheeple and as stated in John Whitehead's book, the DHS is an adaptation of the Soviet model, 99% of US suckers will surrender.
Remember: Blue lights mean losing your freedoms or death in most cases now. Even routine traffic stops.
Dope - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKk5uyuWYqI
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsjB1uL-CPs
You call it stones - I call it bag of rocks stupid. To each his own, eh?
Yet I got away with it and other people did not. Why? Because I would have sued him and I would have gone after his job. There were too many witnesses and I put him on notice that I would make sure there were consequences for his actions.
It's like how they instruct you to act around a bear or tiger. These men have such poor impulse control and are so naturally vicious that we need to be instructed on ways to not be beaten and/or murdered. Wow!
This. The discrimination of non-white people, both subtle and overt, as well as white privilege, are all very real.
That open letter is bone chilling to read.
called the agency’s policy permitting troopers to shoot at fleeing vehicles “stupid.”
Stupid? What a coward and liar. Let's call it what it is -- fucking murder, nothing else. Blue uniforms must obey the same laws as the rest of us.
Where are the god damned lawyers and prosecutors. Murder is murder. Death row to murdering cops.
Any more foxnews wisdom you care to share?
. Any more foxnews wisdom you care to share?
Sorry, I forgot facts don't matter when they utterly destroy the worldview of some whiny professional victim.
Nice, calling someone a whiny professional victim while whinging about how your priveleged majority are the true victims, the butthurt is strong in this one.
So your one incredibly minute, pedantic fact apparently absolves American police of racism. Does this mean if I put up a fact more pertinent than yours that there is racism?
http://killedbypolice.net
In the last 3 years police have killed more blacks than whites, despite blacks being a minority. By your logic that is racist yes? Fact bitch, hope your whiny little victim worldview is intact.
Psssst nailgunnin4you
Negros get shot more often than whites because they engage in violent crimes at 50 times the rate of whites. While you are whining about police rascisim the negros are responsible for 93% of their own murders. But I guess black lives don't matter if you are black. Any more Huffpo talking points?
Im from aus, i don't know what huufpo is plz do shut up with your statist talking points fag I only got anarchist talking points if you want to attack them you are an obama nuthugger, go right ahead hug away.
You're that same whiny bitch that's always squawking about the Drudge Report in comment sections on other websites, aren't you?
Yes of course I am one and the same. I am the only one that thinks this way, everyone else thinks like you, the correct way!!
I'm not so gullible or naive, as to believe that this has anything to do with "Race".
Poor blacks are merely the Beta-Testing Market, for what will be rolled out in all USSA markets eventually. The message, that too many ZHers are still missing [sigh], is:
"Arguments are irrelevant. Resistance is futile. We are in charge. Prepare to be assimilated."
Seen from the perspective of this Paradigm, can we now have more productive discussions (instead of being redirected down blind alleys of re-directed talking points)?
Yes. How the hell are we going to resist those evil John Doe cases like in Wisconsin. I mean you can't shoot all the motherfuckers who are breaking into your house. So how do we resist this shit?
I've been trying to devise ways, but most of them involve landmines, booby traps, and running like a scared girl instead of staying pat. And I'm thinking the only way I have is to live to fight a different day. I have a group of likeminded people, but I'd have to get to them.
I sorta of hate to say it, but sometimes running like a scared girl is the best option.
Later, you can hunt them down one by one, and at your leisure.
Enjoy!
What cocksucker downvotes Orwell? >__>
Respect my Authoritah or I will Kill You !
Great message from a retired police officer.
You have it backwards friend. They are pumping you full of freedom lead! It inspires patriotism. USA!! USA!!
Basically
if you RUN = you will get SHOT to death
if you STAY = you will get BEATEN to a bloody pulp
One snapped spine, please.
Thank you, sir! Many I have another?
http://benswann.com/ca-taxpayers-to-pay-650000-to-suspected-horse-thief-who-was-beaten-by-police/
But you could win some serious cash if you live!
They should charge the horse too, he was an accomplice in assisting the guy get away. And its pretty funny the deputies treated the horse better than the poor sap. Here is some cud while you watch us beat this guy to a bloody pulp.
The effin cops just got peeved that the guy made them get off their lardasses and run for a change, hence the revenge with kicks and knuckles while the guy is face down and surrendered.
That is a pittance. Did you see that nut kick?
You couldn't pay me a million to take one of those!
-Little Giants
pods
The beatings will continue until morale improves!
As long as the officer got home safely from his tour of duty is is all good
There's no crying in race-brawl!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S06nIz4scvI
Anyone who runs...
yeah. real nice. "don't lead um so much".
I prefer the fucking volcano in my back yard compared to dealing with those baboons americans call cops.
This morning I saw a car with a big vinyl decal on the back window: "I support the police. God bless them." They either cop, or extremely brainwashed. Normal people don't have that kind of shit.
family member.
Or drug courier.
I've heard cops rarely give out tickets to someone who has a Sheriff's Association license plate frame or a sticker for donating to a drug task force, etc. Could have just been a smart-ass who likes to drive fast.
Soon enough, their displays will tell them whether or not you actually did make that donation. ;-)
"Records show that you just spent $60 at Joe's Tavern. Step out of the car sir, and put your hands behind your head."
They also rarely give tickets to folks like myself who have EMS plates, or those that have firefighter plates. They know damn well we get them out of jambs often and there is a mutual respect amongst us all.
That said, I live in a rural area where all of these small towns have volunteer squads, and the head sheriff is a strong supporter of the constitution and the right to bear arms. The deputies and local fuzz do actually give a shit about the populace here, and they also know full well that a lot of J6p's and farmers carry daily. You don't get a ticket here unless you have it coming.
I'm not saying this is nirvana here, we have our problems to be sure, but you won't find the hatred for LEO's like you do elsewhere due to the blatant abuse of authority.
>>>I'm not saying this is nirvana here, we have our problems to be sure, but you won't find the hatred for LEO's like you do elsewhere due to the blatant abuse of authority.
Thanks, quasimodo, for your semi-endorsement of rural fuzz. If you've learned to hate cops through your interactions with the LAPD, NYPD or similar urban/suburban entities, try to leave that attitude behind when you interact with rural LEOs. Yea... even Amurican rural LEOs. The ones I know personally (in the US intermountain west) are decent guys who actually worry about tyrannical government etc. etc. If they weren't wearing a cop uniform, you'd probably even like them.
samcontrol
And I will take your volcano AND the cops rather than dealing with north american pavement apes on a daily basis.
juaaaa you probably live in Miami.
Try driving in Rio or Buenos Aires.
Living while black is the ultimate crime apparently.
More like "driving around a rust bucket, smoking pot, with your music blaring, 24" rims that cost 4000 dollars while your car is only worth 200 bucks..while black"
Oh and your seat reclined so far back you can't see over the dashboard.
Don't run, We are your friends.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogp_Dai691k
#41
Charging cops with murder, followed by convictions and long prison terms will solve this overnight.
Holding one's breath for this outcome will just result in death. At the end of the day, the POHLEECE are there to enforce the will of the elite who are making up the rules as they go. They are there to enforce obedience and servitude.
Take front license plates for instance. Because some beauracrat said it is illegal in one state to not have a front license plate, the police will blindly enforce without respect to the fact that no one was hurt. I have a video of a cop that pulled me over for window tint and no front license plate - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FaTNoDERYI
Now, the Ohio state legislature is working on removing this from the books and once removed from the books the costumed monkey fucking asshole cock gobbling cunt queef fucktards will no longer enforce this rule. In the end, the are automatrons once they get their shiny badge pinned to their steroid ridden chests.
The mind of a slave asks is it legal the mind of a free man asks is it right" - some guy.
The US police force trainers are being trained in Israel as an occupation force.
We'll all be palestinian like subjects of the ZWO before it's over.
JLEE, the reason why police officers do not go to jail for extra judicial murders is precisely because our bankster slavemasters like it this way.
No, no we wont fun facts. They didnt reckon on folks like me.
The consent is removed, so come and get it. And I and many like me wont lie down and take it neither.
Cunts, what they are.
:-)
This trooper forgot a few:
6). If the trooper says pull down your pants and bend over, do so immediately. Remember, he's god in this situation and by no means think you are anything other than a subservient non-human who has to take a dick in the ass by a trooper anytime ordered.
7). If the trooper tells you to suck his dick, do so without complaint or questioning his authority to issue an unlawful order. You will have a chance to gargle and challenge his order in a proper court environment where the judge is completely convinced that police are wonderful servants of the law.
8). If you are in your house with your wife and kids when the police kick in the door, by no means move to protect them. Let them shoot your dog, feel up your wife and daughter and beat up your son. Don't ever question them or try to challenge them. By no means EVER take your semi-auto 308 and mow them down as they clear the door on the way in, they HATE that.
Keep up with the Fascist Police State of America here.
www.informationliberation.com
The main problem is the police need to take out the guy with the camara first. LOL
Because that's the Law, Right?
Because that's constitutionally protected, Right?
Because You are the Law, Right?
Hmm, run and get shot at, or stick around and receive a whoopin'...seems like a losing situation all around.
What happens when the gangs aren't running anymore, but rather they bring AK-47s to the fight?
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gangs+cops+ak+47
Don't let ANYONE bullshit you, I've heard it straight from cops, they are freaking scared!
Don't let ANYONE bullshit you, I've heard it straight from cops, they are freaking scared!
The perfect reason to shoot first.
This isn't a problem since assault weapons have been banned. Gangs would have to violate the law to get one.
and if that won't stop them, hang a few gun free zone signs.
And you gotta laugh he actually got 11 upvotes for that comment, are you f_kning kidding me?
As if laws stops outlaws....
I think he forgot his /s tag at the end.
Facepalm.jpg (Forgot this is ZeroHedge, where sarcasm rules the day.... :)
satire
I've said it before and ill say it again. This will end up, probably soon, with a massive country wide slaughter of police officers, the good and the bad, once the population pops off and open season is generally accepted by a pissed off harrassed society. The kind of stuff that happened in new york. Senseless violence targeting both the good and bad cops. I dont mean that as a threat, i mean it as a prophesy considering the tension that the criminals with badges and their mute colleagues have created in american society. Once this pops off they wont be able to defend themselves without the national guard patrolling streets.
Emergency requiring nationalization of police under DHS. Martial law just might arrive one step at a time instead of all at once.
Martial Law practice commencing.. 3, 2, 1 all summer long in the southwest.
They seem to practicing for that right now.
i call BS...where in history does a supressed society lash out and kill the cops/gov officials/rich...!..oh wait just about every revolution that has ever taken place. guess the cops should be freaking as well as the gov employees and the rich.
BUT IT CAN NEVER HAPPEN HERE. IT CAN NEVER HAPPEN IN MY LIFETIME. YADA YADA YADA...
And I'll say it again, there are very few good cops. A cop who does good and doesn't knowingly violate people's rights is still a bad cop if he watches his fellow officers do so and does nothing. If they violate the law, they should receive the same punishment that I would had I violated the same law. (Actually, I'd rather get rid of or serioulsy reduce the number of police, but that's another topic. But we have police and it doesn't look like anybody with any say is going to take that suggestion seriously, so how can we deal with them is the question.) Not all are bad people who deserve a bullet to the face, but most are bad cops. Yes, it is possible to be a fundamentally good person and a bad cop at the same time.
But as to the rest of your point, yeah, something is going to change, and if nothing happens to clean up their act, then they are going to find out what real fear is. I won't participate in the wholesale slaughter of cops just because they're cops, but the more they get away with wanton murder with no consequences, the more likely it is that people will punish them as a group. The more that they reflexively defend any and all police actions, the less people are going to respect their "authority."
Yes, there may be a few peoople that are good people who happen to wear the blue costume, but the nature of the police is and will always be based on theft and the monopoly on the use of force and will be focused more on revenue generation than serving and protecting anything. More of the police force is focused on revene generation over anything and their salaries and pensions are funded by theft (taxation). Regardless of how good a person is, they will enforce whatever the rulers decree, regardless of how ridiculous the laws. Drug laws are a great example of this. Seat belt violations, eating while driving, etc.
And another issue is hiring vets after 14 years of constant warfare. I guarantee that PDs don't do enough screening to catch a lot of cases of PTSD, and even with well meaning vets, PTSD should be a deal breaker. Taking somebody who got off on shooting at people is also a big no-no, but I guarantee that it happens.
I've been saying that for a long time. Cops should NOT be people that have spent the last x number of years being trained to kill in an urban environment, which is essentially about the only places the US military seems to send troops to these days. It's far too easy for these guys to go back to their Iraq or Afghan training and just kill people because they perceive a threat.
Overtime pay and other perks are in some cases also funded by ticket and confiscation revenue. Financial projections for these things are a direct part of the thier yearly budgets. So, when finances from other avenues start to dry up, guess what they are going to amp up?
They are scared because they are pussies with no brains.
If you are a baboon and scared , change jobs.
Alcoholism and steroids also tend to raise one's level of paranoia and rage...
Only criminals “cling to guns and religion”.
Obama had it right!
"What happens when the gangs aren't running anymore, but rather they bring AK-47s to the fight?"
Don't be so naive. They are merely WAITING for this response, so they can justify the use of Swarming SWATs, and the rollout of ROBO-COPS.
Unlike the dumbass Sheeple, the sociopath Oligarchs and their psycho Enforcers always think 2-3 moves ahead.
postmodern version of gestapo
the gestapo was more organized with less pussies.
this is why i typed "postmodern"....
sorry , my bad.
Yeah, it's our problem, not yours. Fuck off.
Sad. Just sad. This is all going to escalate into a tragety of epic proportions.
give me a break.... how about all the blacks and whites killed by the actual criminals. They just shot a car jacker in NJ as he was trying to drive over the cops. He was out of jail a couple month from his last crime spree. You want to defend him? Yes there are some bad cops....but general rule is not to commit a crime and when a cop gives you a command...do it. Seems to work for most people...well except criminals committing crimes.
Next you will tell us Michael Brown was a gentle giant or that thug in Florida that got shot.
"when a cop gives you a command...do it"
Here's a command for you......GO FUCK YOURSELF!
You have obviously never visited the river before I see....
The time to argue a case is in court. Not acting like an animal in the street.
How true.
Yeah, and dont forget to play the lottery and the slots. Those odds of winning are better than playing the local justice theater.
You forgot, they own that too...
Ahhhh let them violate you and then hope that the crooked courts "help you". You're a special kind of stupid aren't you?!
Just wait until it's "innocent" people like you being shot at. I bet you'll be singing a different tune.
Already happened. See the two women delivering newspapers who were riddled with bullets by police during the hunt for Christopher Dorner.
Project much?
You absolutely ignore/miss/fail-to-see that this is about the abuse of STATE POWER. Which no affected peon has the life, time and resources to resist.
Think about it, you actually miss the big picture here. How can you even trust your own opinion?
Ooogle "John Doe Wisconsin", and then get back to us.
Just wait until it's "innocent" people like you being shot at. I bet you'll be singing a different tune.
You want people to submit to the authitah of bullies. When complaining, to the police department, where they investigate themselves, and find your compaint groundless, and filing a civil suit for violation of civil rights is excessively expensive for middle class Americans, so just submit and you'll be happy.
I would respect the police if they respected me and respected the Constitution.
Not being a police officer is also a death sentence.
I see your awareness is well above the huddled masses that will stretch across the breadlines soon.... +1
There is no need to sign the ticket or be polite. There is a need to record everthing, consent to nothing, and invoke one's right to remain silent.
There's no need to break the law, either.
it's impossible not to break laws-- wise up--
Tell that to the police.
Do yourself and us a favor, and educate yourself.
"Don't talk to Cops" (49 minutes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
"The RIGHT Way to Handle a Police Stop"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJrQBwJpqk
SCOTUS has ruled in Salinas v. Texas, that you don't have a 5th Amendment right unless you say you're invoking it.
Stupidest, most ignorant, contrary to logic decision the Supreme Court has ever made.
Some/many people don't realize that if they first invoke their right to the 5th Amendment, and then get baited/provoked into making some respond beyond that, that they have in-effect given up that right.
To maintain that Right, they must keep invoking that Right as a response to every question, until the cop(s) give up. They may also keep asking if they are being Detained, until the Cop says "No".
I believe tomorrow I will buy an crApple watch so I can live stream to myself as I get shot in the back by a cop just for spitting on the sidewalk.
People who are street smart know the real deal, no camera is gonna stop jack sh!t....
(You best hide those things if you don't want to be taken down to the river and re-indoctrinated)
And if you catch some real crazy stuff on camera, you had best leave it on the steps of the news station, just make sure you wear a hoody & don't park anywhere near the station!
you have your life backwards, you know that right?
"You better wake up. The world you live in is just a sugar-coated topping! There is another world beneath it: the real world. And if you wanna survive it, you better learn to PULL THE TRIGGER!" - Blade (The Movie)
I can’t wait for the EMP collapse.
The next door neighbor will be seeing Jesus within the first 10 minutes.
If you really hate him - leave him 4 pounds of butter
i deal with volcanoes not baboons.
If you live in the States wake the fuck up yourself. all lies.. cops,9/11, boston, school killings, your government, the fed, the moon, wars, all fucking lies..
Or you are a baboon or against them.
surviving just fine without using my guns !
these are all great strategies if you are willing to sit back and accept the "authority" figures which have been forced upon you. Oh yes, always a better place and time to fight back, sure...
Given all the recent events and exposure of the corrupt and illicit cops, how about just shooting them on site? "I feared for my life" is actually legitimate when referring to them now. Kill those cops in self-defense until there are no more cops
Sounds like such a novel idea, until the National Guard comes out, but that's of course exactly what they want you to do, something stupid so they can initiate martial law...
Thank you for favoring us with that "pearl of wisdom"....
Do you fear them, or Liberty?
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
I'm not at liberty to discuss them, liberty, like freedom or control, is an illusion...
Tyranny or no, this is a live by the sword / die by the sword world, and criminals get shot, end of story.
Kelly Thomas did not live by the sword:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Kelly_Thomas
Neither did James Boyd:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Boyd_shooting
Etc.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
You don't know the other side of the story like I do....
https://youtu.be/2ARziXE_x2o
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
Arm yourself. Shoot any pig filth that looks in your direction. Throw yourself at the mercy of the court stating you felt threatned. After a while the PIGS will get the message that 2 can play their game.
Shot a cop and I wouldn't take odd's on you making it to court.
#41
I'd put the stop watch at 20 minutes max till it's all over....
That ' slave mentality ' is what got folks into this mess in the first place.
"Individuals have the moral duty to disobey unjust laws." - Martin Luther King
(Just be ready to deal with anything they throw at you, because they will throw everything they got...)
A couple of gladiator slaves didnt have much chance against the Roman Empire either. . .
Nor did a few farmers who decided to stand for liberty.
When a group of people decides they are going to defend their homeland from enemy oppressors, they can always win. It's all about how bad they want it.
Look @ the Viet Cong. Or the mujahadeen. Or the American colonists.
Time after time after time the #1 military power in the world has been beaten in a drawn-out guerrilla war of attrition.
"Arm yourself. Shoot any pig filth that looks in your direction. Throw yourself at the mercy of the court stating you felt threatned. After a while the PIGS will get the message that 2 can play their game."
Why would you do it that way when they so naively live amongst us, their victims?
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
Ok kchris maybe it's bravado on my part as i do not own a gun living in a land where no one bar specially trained officers carry ( airports etc ). So it would appear easy for me to sound off.
Being someone who has never had a run in with the law or with another member of the public due to good judgement , a healthy respect for peoples privacy and a bit of luck i would not hesitate to hurt with no mercy ANYONE who would do me or mine harm.
Now if i lived in a community that were allowed to carry i would have as best a selection of weapons that were available to me.
Further i would not discriminate as to the status of the individual(s) who would infringe on my liberty.
Obviously i would use the same discretion as i have practiced in my current environment and not draw a weapon over a parking ticket but would rather go down defending myself than bow to intimidation.
Thanks for your advice and consideration.
P.S. I've spent a lot of time in countries where the rule of law is non existent and put myself in the frame in some pretty nefarious establishments ( kidnappings and the like ) but for the life of me have sworn NEVER to visit your country's shores EVER again. I wave goodbye to my partner when she sets off to see her sister in NY NY and brother in Nu Joisey and the policy i took out on her, well, OK let's not go there, ha ha.
If you conclude the rule of law in the US is broken, you'd be correct. If you have a foreign spot you call home, stay there. I would, too. The storm is brewing Stateside. I'm going to try to ride it out.
That reminded me of a Full Metal Jacket quote - Anyone who runs, is a VC. Anyone who stands still, is a well-disciplined VC! You guys oughta do a story about me sometime!
Full Metal Jacket was the ultimate flick....
The guy fleeing on horseback in Cali must have been an albino brownie.
This rase baiting bullshit is moar worn than "climate changisms".
It's "US" vs them, and color has NOTHING to do with it. Bitchez/