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The Fate of The Tech Bubble Is In The Hands Of Just One Company

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With the Nasdaq sitting at new highs having finally eclipsed the previous record of 5,048 set in March of 2000 and with consumers not-so-eagerly awaiting their chance to get in on the supposed wave of the wearables future by purchasing their very own Apple Watch, we learn that the fate of the tech bubble now rests entirely on the shoulders of Tim Cook because as FactSet notes, "blended Q1 Y/Y EPS growth for the Information Technology sector is 0.7% [but] excluding Apple, the blended earnings growth rate for the sector would fall to -5.1%.”

That rather disconcerting statistic makes this the scariest chart in the world for tech investors:

And as it turns out, it's not just the tech space. Y/Y EPS growth for the entire S&P 500 is expected to come in at -2.8% — excluding Apple knocks more than a full percentage point off the already negative results: "The blended earnings decline for the entire S&P 500 is -2.8%. Excluding Apple, the blended earnings decline for the S&P 500 would increase to -3.9%."

In other words, the market better hope there are a lot of these people out there:  


 

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Fri, 04/24/2015 - 13:47 | 6026897 buzzsaw99
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crAAPL to a trillion birtchez

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 13:50 | 6026913 localsavage
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Then to zero....they have no new ideas.   The watch is grasping at straws.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 13:53 | 6026931 t0mmyBerg
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It is actually amazing they have held up until now.  I gave them one year from the death of Jobs.  The iPhone 6 refresh set up a new cycle of buying though.  Now that that has largely run its course, what next?  As you say, absolutely nothing.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 13:57 | 6026951 zaphod
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I know more and more Apple people, who are switching from iPhone to Android, or who have all MacAirs but just got a Dell XPS. 

There is no functional difference between iOS or Android for phones or Mac and Win8.1 for consumer PCs. Well except for the limited choice and high cost on the Apple side. 

 

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:00 | 6026962 nope-1004
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Good thing my phone doesn't tell time.

#needanothergadget

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:05 | 6026989 random999
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I wonder how all that apple cash is doing in these NIRP times...

What is it invested in? 2 yr german bonds? Or are they greek?

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:35 | 6027170 Herd Redirectio...
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Whats funny is, Apple think their success was due to marketing (hence why change anything in the company, if the marketing is good, they can do no wrong).  They completely forget all the WORD OF MOUTH advertising Apple users USED to give.  Constantly promoting Apple products to their friends.

Who in their right mind would do so today?  And which idiotic friend would believe that an iPhone, iWatch etc is worth the price?

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:41 | 6027207 BobPaulson
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The stock buybacks were the first big sign of a coming iCrash. How can a company think there is more return on buying their stock than growing their business and developing new products?

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 15:27 | 6027419 Karl-Hungus
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I confess I do love my MacBook. I have hated every new windows OS in years, and the phones are even worse. I like my iPhone too. But I won't be propping them my purchases. I actually use things until they quit working, and care nothing for having the latest and greatest. My MacBook is 3 years old and still going strong, just got an iPhone 5s about 7 months ago after my 4 year old iPhone 4 stopped working. In my personal experience they do make quality products, but the companies valuation is the pinnacle of irrational exuberance and I don't think it's going to end well for most holders of their stock.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 15:49 | 6027530 Au_Ag_CuPbCu
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I have a really hard time reconciling buying a watch that requires me to carry a phone that will pretty much do the same thing as the watch...sayin

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 19:23 | 6028142 EnglishMajor
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Fuck Apple. I just got a Samsung S6. It kicks the iPhone 6's ass. Don't try to put me in a fucking iBox.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 20:32 | 6028205 J S Bach
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Sorry to disagree with you guys, but when you're sitting on a trillion dollars in cash, your company's not going away anytime soon.  And why does Apple have to always be the great innovator?  Where are Samsung's great innovations? (By innovations, I mean truly novel products... not improved copies of Apple's original ideas.)

I don't have a smart phone, but even if Apple never made another "innovation" of any kind, I'd still buy their computers.  There's nothing more reliable on the market.  Believe it or not, I still use G3 laptops from almost 20 years ago.  That's saying something for longevity and quality.

Bring on the down votes. 

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 21:30 | 6028401 Vullsain
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The only thing more annoying than apple fan-boys are the anti-apple fan-boys they have become more cult like than the apple crowd.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 21:44 | 6028425 ghengis86
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Meh. I have an iPhone 4 that's still on an old version that won't support most app downloads, which is fine. I have a 4 year old HP workbook pro and only thing wrong is the shitty battery; still running unsupported XP pro. Before that, my phone was a Razor (remember how 'cool' those first were?) and a shitty home built desktop running 7.

I'm not a fan boy of anything; I'm a cheap Scotsman who doesn't need frills and admittedly keeps things past their prime. But regardless, I'll probably go with a Samsung for my next phone; the non-serviceable battery just chaps my ass raw.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 21:53 | 6028456 Parrotile
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Typing this on a 6 year old Pavilion laptop. LCD panel is well on the way out round all the edges, so that'll be replaced, but it nevertheless does the job (on the Original HP battery too!)

Seeing as it isn't broken, it'll continue to be used. Simple as that.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 23:22 | 6028643 markmotive
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Still, Canada is probably the most systemically vulnerable economy.

http://www.planbeconomics.com/2015/04/canada-is-now-among-most-vulnerabl...

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 22:04 | 6028482 Vullsain
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Hey Genghis, I am a big spender compared to you, no smart phone but a 10 year old iMac trounces your PC ;)  If i need to look something up, I have to walk 10-15 feet to the computer or if I am out wait till I get home " Oh The Horror, the Horror"

Sat, 04/25/2015 - 03:51 | 6028853 zerocash
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Don't get the Galaxy S6 then. You can't replace its battery either.

Sat, 04/25/2015 - 03:54 | 6028854 winchester
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There's nothing more reliable on the market.

 

- here we go, another apple fanatic fanboy who do not get a fucking clue about what he's talking.

Sat, 04/25/2015 - 14:54 | 6029107 J S Bach
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Thanks for the kind words, tough guy.  What I'm a "fanboy" of most of all is good grammar - in which you obviously excel.  So, pray tell, what is more reliable?  Dell?  Windows OS?  If you're going to insult someone, at least have the courtesy to retort with some ammunition and share your wisdom with us all.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 22:42 | 6028551 WillyGroper
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My MBP is from 2007 & outlasted every other brand I've had, not to mention the time vampire with the WinBSoD.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 15:28 | 6027421 BullyBearish
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Like everthing else that at first, doesn't make sense...it's WHO owns aapl that counts

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 18:55 | 6028073 Xibalba
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iCon

Sat, 04/25/2015 - 00:07 | 6028697 AIIB
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I prefer bread helmets to what that guy is wearing

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 15:29 | 6027428 NoDebt
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It has nothing to do with that.  The C-suite is getting paid almost exclusively on share price of the company.  And it's not just Apple.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 15:40 | 6027485 BullyBearish
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OK...let's see how well the C suite can keep the price up when the OWNERS decide it's time to sell

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 19:21 | 6028139 Snoopy the Economist
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"How can a company think there is more return on buying their stock than growing their business and developing new products?"

 

What company thinks that? It's just a way to boost share prices so execs can sell at higher prices.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 15:37 | 6027463 MonetaryApostate
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Success is only temporary and rarely long lasting, take what you can get, and then move on to something new...

Innovation is what made Apple successful for a time, but if their innovation stalls or fails to deliver awesome products, down goes the legacy... (As we see is happening now)

No matter what the price of the products were Herd, people still bought them regardless, and Apple had the capital to invest in more new innovations, but we shall see what comes...

(Something tells me Jobs cashed out because he knew the end was near, not just for himself, but the company as well...  A Great Leader died, they can't replace him.)

Also major team members left, like Guy Kawasaki, who went to Google, and so you can probably see the end drawing near...  

(In the world of crony capitalism you have got to realize when the captain abandon's ship, it's time for you to as well!)

 

 

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 17:23 | 6027861 Farqued Up
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I concluded that consumers, especially females, are a fickle lot and logic does not enter the equation. Look at a Louis Vitton purse for $3,000, no telling what it costs at Needless Markup, and they line up to buy it.

Men? Same crap with us, I dumped my Rolex in the safe and bought a Seiko with a leather band for about $300 and it is infinitely better than that other piece of overblown garbage.

About a year ago I was tempted to unload about half the Apple and started watching the fundamentals closely, glad I didn't sell a share. I have a friend that put a wad on the short because of the lame brain CNBC golden throats and got butchered.

I hope you people are paying attention because that's my only contribution to investing expertise. My motto is Buy High, Sell low, rinse and repeat.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 17:46 | 6027909 firewolfsblog
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Silly goose, you don't buy a rolex to tell time with

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 21:49 | 6028439 Parrotile
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If it's for the "Look at ME!!" purpose, a fake will look just as good - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYowOYMFOs4 and is a LOT cheaper . . . . .

If you want a watch that actually does the job, and will still "do the job" after WW3 (EMP) - try these people. The 17 jewel mechanical pocket watch is very accurate indeed . . . . https://www.silvermans.co.uk/tabid/63/MILITARY/WATCHES/SKU/4-189/Default.aspx

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 20:26 | 6028284 Slomotrainwreck
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The less expensive lead watches are going to go up, like a lead baloon.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:49 | 6027235 Dubaibanker
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One of the biggest scams in the US is the corporations NOT paying most of their taxes while the individuals get thrown into jail and pay penalties for having a Swiss bank a/c! Go figure!

As of 2015, Tech and digital technology being the leading contemporary and high potential growth sector, no one exemplifies tax evasion by US corporations better than Apple.

Just like Apple, dozens of top US corporations either do not pay taxes or barely pay any.

The stash runs into 2 trillion dollars kept overseas while the individual taxpayers bear the brunt of poor healthcare, low policing, crumbling infrastructure and higher prison costs etc. When will anyone call their senator to demand equality and grow some balls?

Here's What Could Be Fixed by the Taxes on Apple's Offshored Profits Apple hoards 89% of cash overseas fearing high US tax rates

 

On the other hand, we have CAPITALIST China where everything is run by the book and rules are equal and followed by all.

Last week, Alibaba, the largest tech company and a major competitor to almost all US tech companies rolled into one, paid a solid USD 1.76 billion in taxes to the Govt of China!

Alibaba Hailed as China’s Top Tax-Paying Internet Firm

If you need any more reasons to leave America, call me!

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:51 | 6027261 BeaverCream
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Yes we need more tax revenues so we can expand the welfare state and pay off Obama's hawaii vacations.  Federal taxes don't provide me with shit, so I don't care.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:57 | 6027287 Dubaibanker
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You think they dont provide you with nothing...but think...you would become like Somalia...if everyone thought like you.

There is wastage for sure (like Obama's vacations) but we still need to pay taxes to have some form of civil society. You will get access to pensions, emergency health care, when required and a general sense of safety, hydro, decent roads and kid's education etc.

You get all that like an umbrella. When it rains, you may get some drops of water on you but you wont get drenched when you need it the most.

If you were the POTUS, would you not wish to have a few vacations as a perk (being the most powerful person and all that jazz!)?

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 15:13 | 6027358 franciscopendergrass
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Muh roads!  Muh welfare! Muh military industrial complex! Muh government!

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 15:23 | 6027405 Dubaibanker
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US lost its grip in the last decade. MIC has overwhelmed the national fabric for the sake of greed and money and in order to continue to hold the grip on the slipping power.

A MUST WATCH FOR EVERYONE WHO WISHES TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS....I DID NOT REALISE UNTIL TODAY THAT THE BRITISH WERE RULING THE AMERICANS....FASCINATING WATCH.

10 Years Later – The Money Trail Of 9/11 Attacks 
Fri, 04/24/2015 - 20:59 | 6028350 New Kid
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This video is misleading confusing crap. A video by the controlled opposition.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 15:37 | 6027460 InjuredThales
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There's nothing "small government" about Somalia. Somalia is a civil war zone between multiple competing big government contenders. They all want to tell you who you can date, how old you need to be to do so, what you can eat, how many times you can pray each day, and so on, and then complete idiots like this fucktard try to tell us that this is the devolution of the libertarian ideal. 

I'm sorry, but no thanks to the state I already have access to health care (and I take care of my own, and ask nothing for it). No thanks to the state I am saving enough (double no thanks) to provide for my future. I'm not having kids so fuck 'em. I don't want a fucking sense of safety - I want a sense of freedom, so fuck the state on that too.  I'm pretty sure that people would be lining up to sell me power no mater what, so fuck the state on that. Most of the subways in both New York and London were built before the state owned 'em, so, fuck the state, I'm pretty sure that roads that cost a fraction would be built without its machinations.

Fucking moron. No critical thinking whatsoever. No wonder you are a bankster.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 15:45 | 6027496 Dubaibanker
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Fuck you too very much.

Stay in your shithole. You deserve it.

There is a bigger good to be had for all humans by living in a society being social animals. But you wont get it....because you want to live lonely and die lonely. A pity!

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 16:13 | 6027633 TheAntiProgressive
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Yeah well society is full of people and generally people just are not that great especially if they want something and can't provide it for themselves.  Try dumping the bankster free ride role and try on a retail job for 3 months and comment again.

Sat, 04/25/2015 - 05:56 | 6028891 Dubaibanker
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Dont jump to conclusions based on a moniker!

When you point a finger at someone else, 3 fingers are pointing back at you!

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 16:23 | 6027676 Karl-Hungus
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Pull your head out of your ass. There is a huge difference between 'society' and 'government'. With all your 'muh roads' bullshit you would probably fit in a lot better on huffpo or salon

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 16:38 | 6027734 I woke up
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DB I've read alot of your posts and you have provided some good insight but I have to disagree with this greater good meme, it's what takes power from the people and gives it to a few.  It's readily aparent that it not working out so well so I'd like to try the opposite for a while.

Sat, 04/25/2015 - 03:27 | 6028837 Dubaibanker
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Thanks, I woke up.

I agree with you. But Govt is a necessary evil. They do provide some support in laying sewerage, roads, hydro poles, dams, coal mines, control forests, zoos i.e. any effort that needs a collaborative effort which individuals cannot do like NASA, medical research, immigration borders, outside of US - banks where they are mostly Govt owned or outside of US - where most oil and energy compaines are state owned etc. If these efforts are not made in a collaborative manner, everyone will kill everyone like the good ol' West where only might is right. We simply cannot go back 300 years because the populations have risen to uncontrollbale levels worldwide and money has just run out.

The US model works only when there is sufficient money flowing around so people are generally happy and then no one bothers about the negative aspects of any Govt or power hungry lobbyists or the billionaires or the MIC. Because everyone is genereally at peace and not at war. When you remove money, everything seems ot be falling apart and then the negative aspects just reach crisis levels.

US model fails BIG time when this money evaporates.

This is what has happened to the US in the last 10-12 years. This has caused wars (to distract), much much more subjugation of the masses, bail outs for the rich only (not the poor), removal of millions from their debt enhanced homes etc.

This is what is going to cause a revolution and trust me, the same Govt everyone loathes, is already ready and prepared to fight back and sadly, kill or arrest its own citizens.

If we just bring billions back and some semblance of what was happening in the US in the 1990's or 1970's, everything will be back to normal.

But wishful thinking it is not. It simply cannot come back and the Govt and people know it. The system is just crumbling, but mostly it will crumble just inside EU and US. And anyone who is smart will do what millions in history have done....go where the money and opportunity is.....

It is better to move to greener pastures than die trying!

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 16:26 | 6027693 Ward cleaver
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Sir have you ever heard of a role model? When 75% of the country is living paycheck to paycheck, do you think it wise for the POTUS to be so visible in his wasting of those same people's taxes? It's just that he simply doesn't care.

Sat, 04/25/2015 - 03:33 | 6028842 Dubaibanker
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Ward cleaver,

The kings will and can do whatever they wish for. From the times of Julius Caesar....That will never change. Look at Queen Elizabeth, has she changed despite living under so much debt for decades, nor have her sons or grandsons? That is the way it always will be. Some will have it and some wont. Those who have it, will give it, when they can, but now the giving has finished so they wont give but continue the same life. Damn the pesky peasants is what they will say in private.

It is best, we the subjects, stop focusing on the bad and focus on the better aspects and try to survive and navigate this unfair world.

Let me tell you: Life is not fair!

 

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 16:28 | 6027699 cnmcdee
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Taxes are horse shit - never in US history have either the democrats or republicans veteod a deficit budget - no matter what the income tax rate is they are incapable of managing their money.

And it is completely irrelevant what the income tax rate goes to - governments *always* will spend every penny given them, and seek for more, consider places like Sweden and their national debt / deficit even though their taxes are approaching 75%

The reality is - governments must be banned forever from borrowing or from taxing and derive their income through the issuance of currency as a percentage of gdp and encased in constitutional law with all departments, and employees payed as a percentage of of this figure. If they need more money for a project it must be approved by the people via vote card, or it cannot be.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 17:04 | 6027804 booboo
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Yea, our war lord is a Choom huffing butt plugging, bogey putting, racist. He needs his space man.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 17:50 | 6027924 firewolfsblog
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Ummm... we are like Somalia. Have you been to Dearbornistan, MI? Murfeesboro, TN? Minneapolis, MN?

 

Get your head out of your libtard ass.

Sat, 04/25/2015 - 03:43 | 6028848 Dubaibanker
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Lol.

It is coming EVERYWHERE...don't worry. Just give it another 3-5 years.

All of US will turn into the same when everyone will be fighting everyone. Everyone has an agenda, point of view and their 'rights'. There will be more foreigners living in the US who have not been born in the US than at any other time in its history since Independence.

Deal with it. Dems and Republicans, all cut from the same cloth.

I am not a liberal nor a conservative. I am just a realist who sees things as they are without any agenda.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 19:32 | 6028163 chirobliss
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Hey Db I like the way you think. The morons on the comment threads here think they can exist without a social contract and the world that magically appears will have great roads, bridges, hospitals and stuff and they will never have to pay more than a penny per household for the whole shebang.

PS Ditch the h word, it reveals too much.

Sat, 04/25/2015 - 03:56 | 6028857 Dubaibanker
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chirobliss, Thanks mate!

Most people are illiterate or dont have a 360 degree perspective. We must care for others else we will never have a peaceful coexistence. People need to pay taxes and have a Govt, this has remained ever since the dawn of time. It will continue long after today's alive people are long dead and gone. What has changed is that the money has finished. Can you imagine Caesar or Persian empire or the British empire without money? Britishers and French robbed all the nations worldwide to satiate their lust for money to continue their empires.

Whoever doesnt want to pay taxes, has my full permission and support to go live in the African jungle or the Brazilian rainforest and if they like the cold, they can also go to the Antarctic tundra? And start a new way of life and trust me, there will be no Govt to interfere with your vision to live! Go ...be a man...start a new way of living...and don;t forget to take your entire family along. (this is not directed at you chirobliss).

The whole world, more so in the developed world lives in cities and towns which are built due to social reasons, not because some Warren Buffett built a city from the bottom of his heart. 

chirobliss, I guess you mean healthcare by the 'h' word? It brings a lot of raw emotions from people. I hate to write about politics but people interpret my views wrongly.

Cheers!

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 00:15 | 6030568 chirobliss
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hydro! lol.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 04:03 | 6030735 Dubaibanker
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Hahahaha

Gotcha!

Thanks for the heads up!

Sat, 04/25/2015 - 00:15 | 6028324 August
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>>You will get access to pensions, emergency health care, when required and a general sense of safety, hydro, decent roads and kid's education etc.

Hello, Mr. Dubaibanker, if that really is your name. 

I don't know how the social compact is worded in Dubai, but in the USA, the idea that government provides "a general sense of safety" or "education" is a sad, sad little joke.  FWIW, the health care, roads and pensions are on the way out too, but will take just a little more time.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 21:37 | 6028412 sonoftx
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Give me infrastructure and a just justice system. For protection every male from the age of 18-40 yo is in the reserves and will be called up during wartime. A 10% flat tax on all income. Get the government out of EVERYTHING else. We would have the best of everything. I have yet to find anything that government does better than the truly private sector. Yo really should leave ZH. Go on a permanent vacation like our current leader.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 17:26 | 6027868 Farqued Up
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Hey, we DO get MOAR drones.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 19:58 | 6028237 GMadScientist
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We'd rather the corporations pay them than the individuals (you know, the way it was when we had a middle class to speak of), but if you're fine with that coming out of your ass instead of Tim Cook's, so be it.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 15:09 | 6027343 kchrisc
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With respect, but businesses, companies, do not pay taxes, their customers do.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 15:17 | 6027380 Dubaibanker
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Companies pay taxes in all other parts of the world except tax havens of which Delaware is also a part.

A company is defined as a legal person in every corporate law book globally.

Laws must be equal for every 'person', legal and individual alike.

For example, if I sell something to you, I must pay taxes as individual on its profit, for example, could be an investment property or a boat or a diamond or whatever else. However, if I use my company to sell, why should it be any different? Income is an income.

Most companies in other countries have not had the global reach that US corporations did over the last 100 years. Only China today is comparable in scale and size. When Chinese companies can pay taxes in their country or UK companies, then why US companies hesitate to pay and always use lobbyists to find a loophole?

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 16:02 | 6027585 Mr Pink
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You failed to name one fucking thing that is paid for by federal income tax. Please enlighten me as to what we get from the feds, besides endless wars and bail outs for the TBTF.

Go fuck yourself

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 16:19 | 6027647 Dubaibanker
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All this radical polarization created by MIC started barely 10-12 years ago until when US was a prosperous nation. Now all money goes into the pockets of corporations, billionaires and a few banksters....and endless creation of new terrorists by bombing normal people's homes.

Y'all voted these animals..what can I say?

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 17:10 | 6027829 aardvarkk
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If you really think that all polarization in the US started 10-12 years ago, you just invalidated as useless any comment you have ever posted anywhere.  Where the hell were you during the Clinton years?  During the Reagan years?  In your mom's basement playing video games, or not born yet?  For Christ's sake, I beg of you, please stop posting.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 17:31 | 6027876 Max Steel
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YOU SHOULD RATHER .

Sat, 04/25/2015 - 04:49 | 6028868 Dubaibanker
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aardvarkk, Are you retarded or is it just that your English comprehension skills are lacking?

Yes the polarization started 10-12 years ago and was caused due to lack of money at all levels and bankruptcy of the US state and Govt from Detroit to Stockton to Lehman to homes and all that. On top, if US did not intervene in even one country to change their regime, US would not be so debilitated and more in the red.

Until money was available, things were ok until 10-12 years ago. Not many people resented MIC or useless spending or cronyism. Now everyone does, because everyone is in trouble.

Once money finished, 10-12 years ago, due to unwarranted wars, bail outs etc and everyone went belly up.....that is when the real polarization started bwetween haves and have nots and more people started thinking the negative aspects of everything the Govt did. 

Only the smart people will understand this, so let it be.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 20:03 | 6028247 GMadScientist
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Try started in the 50s (like when Eisenhower first warned us about it).

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 20:14 | 6028265 J Pancreas
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Are you a fucking millennial or something? The MIC "polarization" started in the early 2000's? You have zero concept of the historical reach of the corruption between .gov, the MIC, and your ilk, banksters. You are proof that the more an idiot speaks the dumber he sounds. Go fist yourself you bootlicking cunt.

Sat, 04/25/2015 - 04:51 | 6028869 Dubaibanker
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Pancreas, is that a name or self description?

If you have any comprehension skills, please read my response to aardvaark above which also applies to you.

Fucking retarded porn maniac!

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 23:33 | 6028654 OldPhart
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No, this shit started before or during WWII.  The MIC was ominously growing when Eisenhower put a name to it and warned us of it.  Most of us were either too young, too propagandized, or non-existent as this snowballed.  And most of the MIC was behind the scenes...that is, until 2001 and the traitorous 'patriot act'.  Since then we've witnessed a hockey stick in the MIC similar to Obama's debt.  We're at the cusp of a police state, if we're not already in one, complete with gestapo, secret courts, and two sets of laws--One for the elite and the one for the rest of us.

We are being routinely investigated by the federal government (trust me, I've had my visit...along with about 10 other people that day according to the Agent).  Ten or twelve people being 'investigated' in one small town is representative of a huge number of people that are so pissed off that they're expressing it online.

The question the agent wanted to know was "Did I intend to violently overthrow the government?"

I'm a fifty six year old geezer, out of shape, and about 3,000 miles from that shithole in DC.

Told him:  I don't have to do anything.  It's going to collapse on itself.  Then you will be the one who will be pissed because you will be left with nothing.  And you are already the type that will take violent action.

Funny thing is...the agent agreed with me and left.

 

Sat, 04/25/2015 - 05:32 | 6028882 Dubaibanker
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Yes I agree it started long long ago.....from the USD - oil deals....aboard ships....control of media, banks, Fed creation, Hollywood, MIC etc....That was global domination era when US could. Now US cannot any longer so it is imploding on itself and citizens are having raging reactions.

I know all of that.

But the beginning of the end for the purposes for which the deals were enabled post WW2 .....has arrived now!

DC seems like a shithole only because they have run out of money and ideas to keep the people happy. They have made one mistake after another in the last 2-3 decades but mostly in the past decade.

Had they not attacked Middle East, they would be better off. Had they not detsabilised 2-3 dozen countries worldwide, they would be better off. Had they not bailed out the big banks but rather have them arrested, they would be better off. US allowed jobs to be shifted in the last 1-2 decades to China for the sake of money but they could have chosen not to let so many jobs go. There are so many examples.

But alas, they always chose the path that helped themselves or the top billionaires and not the public or society at large. Not because they did not think but they could not do anything. Life cannot just be about money. There has to some social angle as well which could be green, climate change or keeping peace at large by keeping the citizens employed etc.

I am afraid they will pay the price for these decisions not too far down the road. The time is coming.

The US collapse will be watched with a lot of intrigue, amusement and perhaps joy by the 95.35% of the world outside of it.

12 years ago when US population was 310m and world population 6 bn, then US population percentage was 5.16%, now it has dropped to 4.65%...in 5 years will be below 4.5% so US will keep becoming a minority in world affairs and most importantly, business will keep collapsing on its own while money flows will reduce and unless people leave that continent, there will not be much going on except what is happening in Detroit currently.

Empty buildings and guns galore!

?How The American Dream Went Wrong In Detroit

?Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Infrastructure (HBO) 

?How Detroit became America's Warzone

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 16:53 | 6027777 blindfaith
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Mr Pink...you can't be this dumb...can you?

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 16:51 | 6027765 blindfaith
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None of the ZH spammers are reading you.  May be they can't and that is the problem.

All you points are completely valid, only idiots are down arrowing you.

No one wants to pay more taxes than are due, but Apple is the expert on how not to pay and then cry to the government to protect their interest...AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE>>>>that means YOU, including the down arrows.

 

Now get busy on me jerks.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 17:05 | 6027812 Max Steel
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exactly blind db points are quite  valid and i upvoted him those red arrows show how arrogant and ignorant some zhers are .

Sat, 04/25/2015 - 00:31 | 6028713 August
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I am a proud red-arrower of db's comment.  IMHO there is room in this world for honest pro-government opinion.   And Dubaibanker might be a good guy, of sterling character.

HOWEVER having someone who identfies himself with both "dubai" and "banker" lecture me as to the benefit of paying taxes to the US government, and the wisdom of a strong social compact with those among whom one lives, is on a par with Bill or Hillary exhorting me as to the nobility of self-sacrifice for the greater good.  The advice may be reasonable, but there is more than a whiff of... inconsistency.

Sat, 04/25/2015 - 05:41 | 6028884 Dubaibanker
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Without knowing nothing about me or of my background...it is wonderful to reach judgements based on a moniker! Ha! 

Have you ever travelled anywhere? You have no idea how Dubai works so please dont discuss it.

The world is beautiful outside of your basement with no windows.

And sorry to break your heart, but the world works better than where US is today and where it is heading in a few years.....

No one asked you to pay taxes. I was asking corporations to pay their taxes and reduce the burden on the individuals. Whats wrong with that and some equality? I never preached anyone who is US citizen to do one thing or another. Dont jump to conclusions.

Most of all, dont judge people you dont know.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 15:45 | 6027512 Grimaldus
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Fuck taxes, taxes are theft. You sound like some kind of statist assclown.

China is run by the book huh? The book of one despotic regime after another for thousands of years, killing tens of millions of their own citizens?

I got an idea, how about you just fuck off.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 16:22 | 6027668 Dubaibanker
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And...US has not killed millions since Hiroshima...to Vietnam...to Middle Eastern wars?

Huh!

What is the police state doing in US for the last 10 years? How many blacks and others have been killed in the US? Is that not the same - killing own citizens?

You fuck off!

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 16:34 | 6027720 Grimaldus
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Total them all up dude and get back to me with your numbers ok?

China killed moar of it's own citizens than the total number of death for any reason at the hands of American progressive criminal governments.

Not even close.

 

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/MEGA.HTM

 

And hey man, don't go away mad, just go away.

Grimaldus

 

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 16:57 | 6027783 Max Steel
Sat, 04/25/2015 - 17:19 | 6029809 Grimaldus
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Hey thanks for that, gave me a good laugh. An article full of bullshit by progressive assclowns decrying the actions of---------progressive assclowns!

Progressives been in charge for over a hundred years. Both Bush's are progressive criminals, just like obama and both Clintons. Not a constitutional conservative in sight.

The progressive stupid, it burns doesn't it?

Grimaldus

 

 

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 17:08 | 6027823 booboo
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"And...US has not killed millions since Hiroshima...to Vietnam...to Middle Eastern wars?

Huh!

What is the police state doing in US for the last 10 years? How many blacks and others have been killed in the US? Is that not the same - killing own citizens?

You fuck off!"

 

Bwaaaaahahahahaha..........So much for that big umbrella keeping us all dry eh chump. Now you are firing an all three cylinders.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 17:51 | 6027925 firewolfsblog
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"Dubaibanker: It was all George W. Bush's fault"

 

bwahahahahahahahahahahahha

Sat, 04/25/2015 - 06:14 | 6028896 Dubaibanker
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Grimaldus, If you have only read western books with a slanted history, then you are biased.

China had a cultural revolution and approx 1.5m died by one estimate in the 1960's. http://www.history.com/topics/cultural-revolution

Always use percentages in numbers.

China had over 600m people at that time.

WW1 and WW2 and Middle East wars have caused more deaths on percentage basis, even Armenia, Nazis and Russians. http://necrometrics.com/20c5m.htm

This indicates all over the world there have been such events. Even in the US civil war, the percentage casualties were the greatest. We are reaching a similar turning point in US history.

Who, What, Why: How many soldiers died in the US Civil War?

When are you moving to Antarctica...I hear there are no taxes there in the tundra?

Sat, 04/25/2015 - 17:35 | 6029837 Grimaldus
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DB dude china killed 76 million of its own citizens between 1949 and 1987.

Nothing tops Chinese despotism. And the same bunch of murderers are running the show now. Look how the Chinese elite grind their people under their thumbs. The whole country is an armed police state sweatshop.

Someday you will learn to stop bending over for government. I hope before it is too late.

Government is the biggest murderer and thief ever in history. By far, nothing else comes close.

You openly talk of supporting that. Support for government is support for murder.

Grimaldus

 

 

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 04:07 | 6030736 Dubaibanker
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Ok. Fair enough. most Govts are despotic.

What is your solution? What choice do we have? 

Govt has been there for centuries...not much has changed....

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 04:53 | 6030764 Max Steel
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stop being ignorant douche . Youve not reached 76 million ( as said you mentioned ) does that means you arent despot ? US backed sources are not legit in determining the no of deatgs carried out by others . It can be exaggerated just like they exaggerate tianmen square massacare . Look for British Bengal famine worst genocide ever in history . beating jews holocaust . Look what US allow Israel to do in Palestine . A genocide . Stop being an exceptional ignorant murican . You're dragging chinese numbers as to proof hey look we are stil behind them . usa has veen doing warcrimes and massacare for past 70 years to till date . meanwhile others are not . get a grip idiot .

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 18:16 | 6027988 sessinpo
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Dubaibanker    One of the biggest scams in the US is the corporations NOT paying most of their taxes while the individuals get thrown into jail and pay penalties for having a Swiss bank a/c! Go figure!

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Taxes are put into the price of the product, thus the consumer pays that tax. The corporations simply transfers the money. Go figure that you haven't figured that out.

Sat, 04/25/2015 - 09:27 | 6029075 11b40
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Yes, and you can make a choice about buying a product - from multiple different companies, or not to buy at all. Paying personal taxes = no options. Can you figure that out?

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 22:01 | 6028478 IronForge
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Dubai Banker,

Do you know of any good Executive Recruiters(Tech/IT/FinBank) who specialize in Non US Positions?

Thanks.

Sat, 04/25/2015 - 05:53 | 6028886 Dubaibanker
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Sure, IronForge.

Depends what country are you focusing on?

Look up Charterhouse, Michael Page, Carmichael Fisher etc.

Each country has specialists that also depend on sector. Plus there are plenty of smaller companies doing such work in each sector/country.

If you can elaborate a bit on which country or countries, then I could certainly direct you more specifically.

If it is for Dubai, I could talk to some headhunters because there are way too many job applications and they dont even bother to reply due to the boom here and the entire world looking to relocate here. Its surpsising that the number of French, Greeks, Spanish, Belgians etc who have moved here in the last few years (for the first time) not to mention Americans, Canadians, Australians, Germans, Chinese and Britishers.

Cheers!

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 07:13 | 6033363 IronForge
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Thank you, DubaiBanker.

I'm focusing on Russia, Secular/Protestant Germany (North and East, IIRC), Sweden/Norway, Japan, China(Shanghai / Beijng based), UAE, and possibly Bahrain.  Executive Recruiters / Technology and IT Project Staffing Companies / VC Referrals based out of the aforementioned Countries are appreciated.

I've had difficulties looking for IT/Finance Contracting WebSites in that Region (USA/GBR Sites don't carry a wide selection of ME Positions), so I presumed that Executive Recruiters are more heavily involved there on an "Individual Firm" Basis.

As a ex-Civil Service Employee for the US Navy (after my Career as a Naval Officer), I blew the Whistle to the Inspectors General regarding criminal wrongdoings, contractor kickbacks, Occupational Hazards, Criminal Negligence, and Cyberhackingcrimes (using govt Computers).  Naturally, the Navy tried to cover it up by smearing my character with some series of Fraudulent Accusations which included a "Person of Interest" designation.  Call it the NeoCon/Police/Stazi Scam.  I've been hindered in my efforts to Sue/Prosecute those involved; but from my vantage point, most actors  (especially the Corporate Ones, like Yahoo!, ORACLE, AAPL, KeiserPermanente, Raytheon, and L3) have made cyber/paper trails; and can't hide forever.  

Now the "Community Civil-Disobedience Racket" include "Get him back to Jesus",  and "Don't let him Leave the Area".  Parasites indeed.  

Since I've had much interference from copycats, plagiarizers, stalking/proselytizing cult parasites, (several of the cult groups were allegedly engaged since I was "kind" to Jewish and Muslim People (I spoke to one Muslim-Run NGO and Lawyer for Legal Counseling); and were afraid I'd join them (the Jewish had their own set of Problems with Racists and Cult Followers)  - kind of a microcosm of all the USA-based stereotypes everyone here on ZH are bashing - even the Americans like myself, are running into factions daily), I've decided that one of the best options is to work abroad where I can probably get some Graduate Studies and occasional Sightseeing Trip on a Long Weekend included in my Adventures.

I'm an ex-Protestant; and as rational ZH Members would concur, I'd prefer working in Countries "Mostly Neutral when it comes to the NeoCon Regime Change Steeplechase" that display Financial Savvy and protect their Mfg and Technology Bases.  UAE would be a great Regional Hub (Distribution/localization, Finance, and R&D), since they do adapt/invest a good deal of Tech and Mfg Goods from abroad.  Bahrain may not be a match, since there's a USA/GBR Military Presence.  

I've been to the Region over several summers in the Past.  I did my share to protect Gulf Shipping during the Iran-Iraq War escorting the Convoys on my Ship; and after my Tour rotation, planned/managed some of the Industrial/Engineering/Logistical Operations in the NYC/MidAtlantic Region for the Desert Shield/Storm Campaign to Free Kuwait and defend KSA.  Though I left the Military and rejoined as an IT Analyst just before 9/11, I luckily "dodged not only a Bullet; but an Airplane" when a Project Contact fell through with Deutch Bank in NYC a Year Prior to that event (I do front end application development and Project Mgmt). 

I'm an IT Contractor; and I'm looking for Contract Based (instead of a FTE) Assignments on the Short End of the Calendar (within a Year, with options to extend) - AND Venture Capital Contacts.  I hope to invent/manufacture/implement a few things; and am seeking Govt/Private Business Partners.  We can take the VC discussion offsite, if you're interested or know some people who may be.

I've worked in Govt Finance (Budget Mgmt, Treasury Agent, Paymaster), Securities (Merrill Lynch as a Broker - entered to try to transfer to a Mutual Fund Investment Mgmt billet; and was planning on launching a Hedge Fund as the "broker-turnover" game rolled along in our office), Banking (Budget Analyst, and later on as IT Consultant for a FP&A Division).

In the meanwhile, in addition to being a Program-Project Mgmt Consultant, I engage in Project Mgmt/Business Systems Analysis/Application Design and Development of:

  • Enterprise/Manufacturing/Material Resource Planning Applications like SAP / Compass Contract;
  • Business Intelligence / Datawarehousing Platforms like Cognos / Applix / Hyperion
  • Financials Planning Analysis, and Reporting (SAP, Hyperion, Cognos-Applix)

Again, Thank you; and look forward to discuss future business opportunities with you and your associates.

I can be contacted at TitanBlade@mail.ru

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:54 | 6027275 AmarUtu
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Full automated dark factories in Asia powered by robots removing people(slaves) from the manufacturing process, will end well.........................

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 16:29 | 6027704 Zero guest
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By definition cash represents uninvested wealth.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 20:06 | 6028251 GMadScientist
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By definition, cash is an IOU that isn't quite accepted everywhere.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 16:14 | 6027639 Ward cleaver
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Hitlery says having more than one item is impossible to manage. That is why she was so great as SOS cause u don't need to multi task.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:00 | 6026964 localsavage
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If they could get the cell companies and phone manufacturers to quit messing up and adding their shit to the android phones OS, Crapple would be done.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:04 | 6026984 Oh regional Indian
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Imagine that, the mythical technology atlas is now a gaggle of fanbois.

Screwed!!!

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 15:12 | 6027354 I need more asshats
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Well yea but you have to admit they make some nice asshats!

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user92183/imageroot/...

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:09 | 6027015 813kml
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Android is very competitive with iPhone, but MacOS is still light years ahead of Windows.  Not to mention the build quality of Macs versus PC laptops, the closest Dell can get is a second-rate knockoff.  Mac prices are also becoming much more reasonable.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:25 | 6027097 McMolotov
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Completely agree on all points. Windows is basically a virus masquerading as an operating system. I'm a Linux guy, but I use MacOS for work, and it's so much better than Windows, so much more "logical," there's just no comparison. Also no BSOD.

I get that most people are forced to use Windows at work, but I have no idea why anyone would want to willingly inflict Windows on themselves at home when there are better alternatives.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:39 | 6027191 813kml
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Microsoft's only saving grace is that Windows was first to market and many people don't want to learn something new.  Windows and MacOS quality have been on opposite trajectories since XP, I made the switch about 10 years ago.  I will not buy another PC laptop, Mac hardware and Parallels to run Windows/Linux if needed is where it's at.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:50 | 6027251 MayIMommaDogFac...
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I @#$%^&* hate Microsoft but I have not seen a BSOD in about 10 years (3 versions of OS) and I really put my machines through the paces, both hardware and software wise.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 15:46 | 6027510 MonetaryApostate
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Agree, Windows was hella clonky at first, but they have put more into development than Apple by FREAKING MILES....

Regardless of it being a freaking NSA spy box, even linux has been proven to be nothing short of the same, and even Linus Travold said the code had become extremely over bloated & hard to manage with all of the new innovation out, so it's definitely NOT the original Linux that he originally produced.  (Far from it really)  Some distros will crash on you if they don't support your hardware (Often because it's too new) and so the tables have turned and Linux may be considered by the dumb masses as "Buggy"...  I don't care what the Linux fan bois say to the contrary, Linux is NOT perfect.  (Far from it really)  However, it's still suitable for certain task, and it's still far superior in Kernel to Windows.

However, there is the hackablity of Windows Issue, which I hope they do one day put to an end, but I won't hold my breath, truly...

Don't even get me started on Crapple...

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 22:19 | 6028395 flapdoodle
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Linux, and UNIX, can have a steep learning curve. If you are willing to invest some time in learning its quirks, it pays back handsomely. If you tune it, it can do everything Apple and WIndows does, with much lighter hardware. The real payoff is that if you learn linux, you have basically learned ANDROID as well, not just Android, but the OS underlying most cheap/small devices (e.g Raspberry Pi, many media boxes like WDTV, etc,) along with the OS underlying most of the worlds top supercomputers. Under the hood,  Mac OS is very close to linux as both are UNIX variants - much of what you learn with one likely transfers fairly closely to the other. Pretty nice spectrum of hardware if that is your interest.

It tends to ALL be linux, with few exceptions. This is not likely to change anytime soon, Linux will just continue to get stronger ironically for the same reasons that Microsoft did - its easier to go with  what is most popular.

Microsoft is ultimately doomed, as the desktop market is very weak and the laptop market is not that far behind with the advent of tablets, chromebooks, and of course every more capable smartphones which can do most of what the older iron does. This is why Microsoft is so desperate to break into the smartphone market, and to push WIndows 8's tablet like GUI. The problem is that it is just a bigger kludge than before collapsing under its own weight.

The dirty little secret of all computer software, is that they ALL have a learning curve.The developers add the features, but YOU learn how to make it work. If they do it right, a user can do things with the software which goes beyond what the developers originally envisioned... that is the sign of a good tool.

The question is do you want to learn a random number of keyclicks to get something done, or learn what the real name of the application is, and work directly on it. In the case of Windows and to some extent  MacOS, what you *see* is what Microsoft and Apple allow you to see. You really have no control at all, as what is happening underneath the hood is hidden from view, and you depend on the GUI author to have faithfully given you control over what is actually doing the work, or some random entry in a variable database (like the "registry") will somehow get back to the application and fix your problem. Good luck with that.

If you really bother to learn Linux, in three or four years you will still be able to build upon what you have learned. With Windows and  MacOS, you will just know the app the way it is offered to you. It is more luck than anything else that the same commands and techniques will work on those from one release to the next.

I banned Microsoft products from my family about five years ago. My wife took up the challenge (after beating me over the head with a frying pan) and learned OpenOffice/LibreOffice, the open source replacement for the Microsoft Suite. After about two weeks of learning how it works, she could do absolutely amazing work with LibreOffice, every bit as sophisticated as what she did before with the expensive and constipated Microsoft products...

When I occasionally have to use Microsoft, I am ASTOUNDED as to how clunky and obsolete it is. I frequently have FIFTY tabs open in the Firefox browser under Linux, with only 2Gb memory. Try that with a box running any Windows.

I also like how Windows OS default where they shut down only after they force an update on you...

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 17:00 | 6027792 EdSav
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On Windows 8.1... keeping with the theme, they really gay'd up the BSOD.. There is a frowny-face and everything.. and a cute message referring to the kernel dump as "We're collecting information about this crash and then we'll restart your computer". I have been "into" computers and technology for a very long time.. and I hate what it has become and what it seeks to be. I hope it implodes under the weight of it's hipster-douchiness. Also of note.. pretty sure that this is the first new generation of Intel processors in which their predecessors beat them in nearly every task (22nm vs 14nm).. So much that in most usage scenarios, it can result in higher power consumption via constant thermal throttling (14nm has less area to disperse heat from core). Give it a year and I'll move to Banshee, Pennsylvania and call myself Proctor.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 18:26 | 6028012 MonetaryApostate
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They are trying to go smaller, faster, and cheaper all the way around, but are you ready for the real shocker?

Everyone is paying them for their research & engineering failures.... (They sell it to you by the gram...)

Sadly enough, the internet is STILL ran on Linux (65+ %!)... (Talk about fail right?)

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 19:04 | 6028095 EdSav
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Aside from the pre-installed garbage on the Dell Venue 8 pro; I don't pay them a dime. 65% is a very lowball number for *nix boxes as a % of internet servers. There is nothing sad about Linux dominating the server env (or workstation for that matter, if only Ubuntu could pull it's head out of it's ass). The only type of linux saturation that is sad to see is Google's rape-baby aka Android/Dalvik...  Tho to be fair, I still use Android.. albeit a very stripped down version. Google is really irritating with their "fix it until it's broken" way of doing things; Microsoft definitely falls into this camp. It's the only way for software companies to 'innovate' as of late. 

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 21:55 | 6028463 IronForge
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I had my share of those and "Dr. Norton" Notices when my Apps would crash.

If you're nostalgic, you can download a few BSOD screensavers from M$FT and 3rd Party Sources...

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:24 | 6027100 froze25
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Totally not accurate, Mac's PC/Laptops are nothing special as far as quality goes.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:40 | 6027201 McMolotov
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I realize this is just anecdotal, but I have a G5 tower that's been running everyday for the past eight years for work, and I haven't had a single issue with it. If you open it up and look at the guts, it looks like fucking miniature magic elves with OCD put it together:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Power_Mac_G5_open.jpg

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:50 | 6027257 cheech_wizard
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Reminds me when I worked at SUN Microsystems. Had a workstation there that didn't crash once in 7 years, until I deliberately caused it to crash in order to learn how to debug core dumps. If there was ever a company that got sold on the cheap, it was SUN Microsystems. Oracle got a true bargain.

Sat, 04/25/2015 - 08:29 | 6027525 MonetaryApostate
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Yes indeed, but those people are in the business of acquiring assets cheap, and they've been doing it for centuries....

(They are the masters of Austerity & Trickle Down Economics, and even far more sinister things...)

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:24 | 6027104 Peak Finance
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I agree totally. I have both and the Mac is far superior.  Mac Air + solid state hard drive is the fastest computer I have ever used by far.

My 'high-end" crazy-expensive PC (Alienware) is a piece of shit (not really going to get into details, but it can't even fucking properly switch from external to internal monitor without grief, like, WTF right? something that simple dosen't work???).

The New Windows is an abortion.  Microsoft also fucked me hard by dropping ADP support from Access in 2013. Still pissed about that. 

Windows needs to scrap everything and re-start from the ground up with a *nix based kernel 

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:35 | 6027171 Model T
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Microshit needs to die; period. Linux Rules ! Linux plus garage sale Compaq equals faster than new PC; and crash-proof. Ha Ha.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:48 | 6027229 McMolotov
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Cheap bastards with moderate computer skills, unite! I have an old laptop that dual boots Windows and Crunchbang, and going from Crunchbang to Windows feels like stepping back in time to the late '90s. Sooooo slooooow.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 18:29 | 6027545 MonetaryApostate
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Smells like a hardware or virus issue to me....

(PS to all you dildo down voters, I've been a Progammer & Tech for over a decade, so get lost...)

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:36 | 6027174 Herd Redirectio...
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They still haven't managed to force me to drop XP.

 

Muhahahahahahahahaha!

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:46 | 6027236 Nobody For President
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Ditto on my mainframe. Newer notebook as Win 7, which is OK.

Played with 8 and 8.1 - crappola, like Vista.

(OK, maybe not quite as bad as Vista....)

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:36 | 6027176 TheReplacement
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Too bad you can't use an Apple in the VAST majority of business environments, unless you only need to check your email.  In that case, any retard with a phone can do it.

Apple sucks nuts.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:40 | 6027203 Peak Finance
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Parallells on a fast Mac runs Windows Apps faster than my Alienware. I can't think of any legacy apps that Parallells has troubles with. 

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:57 | 6027289 schnydz
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What? The fact that you drop the name "Alienware" is suppose to mean something? The fact that you blew your wade on a piece of shit machine mean much more. 

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 15:04 | 6027324 Peak Finance
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Yes, It means that I got ripped off buying a "trustworthy" expensive and "high-end" PC which is actually shit.  Which is why I typically namedrop "Alienware" and various synomyns of "Shit" in the same post. 

Please read further up the thread.

 

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 15:18 | 6027387 bid the soldier...
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Do you want Apple to send your check to your P.O.Box or do you want to pick it up in Cupertino? 

Best Regards

Tim Cook

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 16:14 | 6027636 813kml
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Wire transfer would be best, the Dell Dude is mowing my lawn and I don't trust him unsupervised.

 

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 17:54 | 6027928 bid the soldier...
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Exactly what I'd do.

If Michael Dell mows your lawn, you prolly don't live in the droughty part of California. 

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 20:08 | 6028253 GMadScientist
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I can put OpenBSD on better hardware for half the price. "Much less irrational" is a better descriptor.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:56 | 6027285 Roving reporter
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and except Windows 8.0 sux

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 16:23 | 6027677 AGuy
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"There is no functional difference between iOS or Android for phones or Mac and Win8.1" Not that I own a single Apple product, but Win 8 sucks worse than the very best hoover. I am sure Win 8 is driving Mac OS (laptops, desktops, etc). Windows 8.1 is a throw back to Windows 3.1!

 

 

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 16:32 | 6027710 Hyjinx
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XPS is an excellent system, completely happy!  "Downgraded" to win7 of course.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 22:12 | 6028500 man of Wool
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What a load of crap You've just made it up because your another green eyed envious non Apple user. Iphone6 is successful because Android users are moving to Iphone because more than anything it is an established brans. Samsung keep coming out with their s 4 s5 s6 crap. Thats why Iphone sales have increased. Dell XPS is no competitor for a Mac Air. Its the OS stupid.

 

Carry on being envious of Apple products but for FFS Dell LOL LOL You got no class.

Sat, 04/25/2015 - 11:08 | 6029190 sun tzu
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It's a cult and status symbol. Until it is no longer considered cool and trendy, people will keep buying it

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:20 | 6027073 El Vaquero
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"I gave them one year from the death of Jobs."

 

It takes a company that big a while to decay.  One thing that Jobs did was to push for high quality components, which drove the higher cost of a lot of apple products.  He's not there, and I expect the bean counters are going to have more influence.  But the high cost will remain, not because of quality, but because of fanboys. 

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:20 | 6027076 pashley1411
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Plan "B" for all tech companies, reduce (labor) costs.    

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 18:38 | 6028037 GeezerGeek
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In the tech industry it is called "Plan H1B".

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 16:10 | 6027616 Ward cleaver
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Was having dinner with a woman that had the 6T which was twice the sixe of the 5 phone I have. Asked her why she got something that big and she mumbled something but not sure what it was. Like Microsoft, it's great til it's not.

Sat, 04/25/2015 - 00:15 | 6028447 Vullsain
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smart phones are getting so powerful, it will not take long for them to be all the computer anyone needs. Just add monitor, TV or tablet for home or auto and work. I would think apple is going to have an advantage.  They are sitting on some impresive patents. Hopefully the competition keeps up and helps keep prices in check.   BTW I do not own a smart phone I have no real need. Still use an old iMac at home when I purchased it Windows was clunky and a virus riddled pain in the ass. I guess no real advantage in apple OS now although, I would need to research that. Windows was absurd 10 years ago. 

Sat, 04/25/2015 - 11:14 | 6029201 sun tzu
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They are powerful for a phone, but still nothing in terms of CPU and memory when compared to s computer. So you can view emails and look at documents. You can't do real work like programming or applications. You would also need to connect a full sized keyboard. 

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 23:11 | 6028624 OldPhart
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I broke down and bought a phone a few years back.  I realized there no longer were any payphones to be found, and having a phone is handy if one breaks down on a lonely stretch of road.

I checked them out, but am to miserly to splurge, so I picked up a $10 flip-up trakphone.  Since I'm not walking around with my nose in it every second of the day (it's a phone, not a toy) for my purpose it could have a dial on it and it would still be all I need.  I get $40 of airtime about every three or four months and get double minutes.  Last time I loaded it was in February, $40 for 200 minutes that double to 400.  I have 302 minutes left.

Wife had the same phone, but she wanted to be like the big kids and have a fancy phone.  Got her one for christmas at $52 a month.  The only thing going for it is that it has a GPS that my wife has barely figured out.  She has a shitload of grandson pictures on it and we were told we could take it to WalMart and download them.

Unfortunately, there weren't any five year olds around to show us how to do it.  Maybe next time we're in a WalMart we'll remember to check by the toy aisle for help.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 13:57 | 6026945 813kml
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Wrong, the revolutionary next iPhone has a screen one millimeter larger and is one microgram lighter than the obsolete prev-gen from last week.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:04 | 6026987 Dr. Engali
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And it bends to the contour of your body too.  

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:21 | 6027027 813kml
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As it should, it is meant to be implanted in the arm opposite your Apple Watch.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:31 | 6027147 AIIB
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Plus, you know, all the cool looking chicks on all the hottest sitcoms on TV are figuratively, cinematographically, featured to be using Apple laptops, so they must be cool & you must buy them.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-q17rwlj0To0/ULvUmdJ8HJI/AAAAAAAAAFs/MLxjFsQIIh...

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 17:40 | 6027897 AGuy
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"Plus, you know, all the cool looking chicks on all the hottest sitcoms on TV are figuratively, cinematographically, featured to be using Apple laptops"

 

Most likely Apple paid to have their machines shown in those programs.

 

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:15 | 6027044 ebworthen
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localsavage said:  "The watch is grasping at straws."

Yes, old school.  How many of the Millenials or A.O. (Always On) generation wear a watch?

Answer?  Almost zero.  My kids tell me watches are stupid, their cell phone tells them the time and does everything else.

The smart phone is even killing the laptop and the iPad and other tablets.  People look at pictures, watch videos, and "communicate" in a 3" window with their thumbs.

Idiocracy forward!  Apple might want to diversify into student loans, a bling eatery (something with wraps and coffee!), High Frequency Trading, or Healthcare and Biotech.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:45 | 6027231 El Vaquero
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LOL!

 

And I still wear a watch.  It's much mor convenient than pulling a cell phone out.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 14:54 | 6027276 Freddie
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Well some millenials also have piercings all over including their genetalia.

The only place is another grasping at straws is the car business with an iCar.  They can buy Tesla or resurrect Aptera.

http://www.gizmag.com/aptera-independent-production-us/27868/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrQqCLRXl2w

Tim Cook is totally g** so he will not take chances except with human transmitted viruses.

Fri, 04/24/2015 - 15:30 | 6027432 I am a Man I am...
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they don't wear watches because watches don't do dick, the apple watch does a bunch of shit

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