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Rising Police Aggression A Telling Indicator Of Our Societal Decline

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Submitted by Chris Martenson via PeakProsperity.com,

My first Uber lift was in South Carolina.  My driver was from Sudan originally, but had emigrated to the US 20 years ago.  Being the curious sort, I asked him about his life in Sudan and why he moved.  He said that he left when his country had crumbled too far, past the point where a reasonable person could have a reasonable expectation of personal safety, when all institutions had become corrupted making business increasingly difficult.  So he left.  

Detecting a hitch in his delivery when he spoke of coming to the US, I asked him how he felt about the US now, 20 years later.  "To be honest," he said, "the same things I saw in Sudan that led me to leave are happening here now. That saddens me greatly, because where else is there to go?"

It’s time to face some uncomfortable ideas about the state of civilization in the United States. This country is no longer the beacon of freedom illuminating a better way for the world. Why not? Because it has ceased to be civilized.

The recent spate of police brutality videos and the complete lack of a useful or even sane response by the police unions is shaping my writing here. But it goes well beyond those incidents and extends into all corners of the lives of US citizens now, as police abuse is only one symptom of a much deeper problem.

What do we mean by "civilized?"  Well, take a look at its official definition and see if you note any descriptors that are lacking in present day US culture:

Civilized adjective

1. Culturededucatedsophisticatedenlightenedhumane All truly civilized countries must deplore torture.

2. Politemannerlytolerantgraciouscourteousaffablewell-behavedwell-mannered

(Source)

A civilized society, then, is one that is humane at its core, that knows right from wrong, and which does not need to conduct lengthy ‘internal reviews’ to discover if videotaped brutality is indeed showing illegal abuse.

Let’s begin by examining a few recent cases of brutality, so many of which now exist that I have to narrow the field substantially in the interest of brevity.  I'm going to skip over the one where an unarmed black man was shot five times in the back and coldly murdered by the officer in South Carolina, because that has already (and rightly) received a lot of media attention.

So, the first case I'd like to discuss comes to us from San Bernardino CA where a man being served with a warrant for suspicion of identity theft started to flee.  Much to the dismay of the police, the last leg of his otherwise humorous escape plan involved a horse, forcing the cops to huff across the hot, dry desert on foot.

The video eventually shows the fugitive falling off his horse, throwing himself flat on the ground in total submission, and then putting his own hands behind his back. Two officers then approach and, in full view of the news chopper camera circling overhead, proceed to violently kick him in the face and groin, pistol whip him with a taser, pile-drive him with their elbows, and then move aside to make room for the other nine officers that also join in the violent 2 minute long beating:

Aerial footage showed the man falling off the horse he was suspected of stealing during the pursuit in San Bernardino County Thursday afternoon.

 

He then appeared to be stunned with a Taser by a sheriff's deputy and fall to the ground with his arms outstretched. Two deputies immediately descended on him and appeared to punch him in the head and knee him in the groin, according to the footage, reviewed several times by NBC4.

 

The group surrounding the man grew to 11 sheriff's deputies.

 

In the two minutes after the man was stunned with a Taser, it appeared deputies kicked him 17 times, punched him 37 times and struck him with batons four times. Thirteen blows appeared to be to the head. The horse stood idly nearby.

 

The man did not appear to move from his position lying on the ground for more than 45 minutes. He did not appear to receive medical attention while deputies stood around him during that time.

 

San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon told NBC4 he was launching an internal investigation into the actions of the deputies.

 

"I'm not sure if there was a struggle with the suspect," McMahon said. "It appears there was in the early parts of the video. What happens afterwards, I'm not sure of, but we will investigate it thoroughly."

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Note the lack of civilized responses there from beginning to the end.  A yielding, non-resisting suspect was repeatedly pounded by 11 officers using means that would land you or me in hot water (justifiably) on “assault with a dangerous weapon” charges if we did the same.

Then the beaten man was left on the ground afterwards without any medical attention for 45 minutes. The physical abuse nor the later disdain for the suspect's condition aren't behaviors you find in a civilized society. Successfully apprehending a 'suspected criminal' does not give you free license to mete out a brutal beat-down, at least not if your humanity is intact. But with these officers, that appears to be precisely what happened. The fact that it did is indicative of a culture in distress.

In the next part of this sad drama, the county sheriff had the audacity to say (in an obvious attempt at damage control) that he was ‘not sure’ if a struggle had happened with the suspect, but that it appeared that there had been one.  Apparently, the sheriff needs some training in evidence review (or a new pair of glasses) because there’s no struggle there at all, which is plainly obvious in the video:

Then the sheriff concludes with “what happens afterward, I’m not sure of,…” Again, anybody who viewed the video is very certain of what happened afterwards because it’s completely obvious: the deputies kicked the crap out of a non-resisting suspect.

So obvious that less than 2 weeks after the beating, San Bernadino county hastily agreed to a $650,000 settlement in attempt to very rapidly put the whole thing behind them.

The only legitimate response from the sheriff, to show that the rule of law applies and that he and his deputies have morals and are part of a civilized society, would have been to say something along the lines of, “Assaulting a compliant and non-resisting suspect is never OK, and it is against our internal policies and training as well as the law.  In the interest of complete transparency and fairness, both real and perceived, we’ve asked for an external review which will include citizen participation.  Whether laws are broken by citizens of the police, our department believes 100% in equal application of the law because anything else erodes the basic perception of fairness upon which a civilized society rests.”

Of course, nothing of the sort was said here. Nor is it ever said in other brutality cases, where instead we see the ranks close around the accused cop(s), which unfortunately communicates the impression that one of the perks of being a law enforcement officer is being able to dodge the consequences of the same laws they administer daily.

Here are a few more cases, all demonstrating the same unequal application of the laws:

In this next case, an unarmed, fleeing black male suspect was tackled and pinned on the ground by at least two officers. He then was shot in the back by a 73 year-old reserve deputy who apparently couldn't tell the difference between a revolver and a taser. A 73 year-old whose main qualification for being on the scene seems to have been his prior generous donations to the police department.  

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxTulsa Police Chase And Shoot Eric Courtney Harris

 

The above video is disturbing for many reasons, but especially because while Eric Harris is dying he says “Oh man, I can’t breathe” to which one of the officer who happens to have his knee firmly on Eris’s head says “Fuck your breath!”

Recall that one of the words used to describe civilized is "humane". Think about how far out of touch with your own humanity you have to be to say that to a dying person. Even if the officer didn't know Harris was dying at the time, he at least knew that he had been shot.  

In another case, a man approaches a car blocking the street and asks for it to be moved.  The violent manner of the officer's response would be a case of road rage if it involved another civilian and be prosecuted as a serious crime with multiple charges.

Man Asks Cop Nicely to Stop Blocking Traffic, So the Cop Beat Him and Stomped his Head

Sept 11, 2014

 

Sacramento, CA — A Sacramento County Sheriff’s deputy is on paid vacation after a video surfaced showing him stomping on a man’s face and hitting him with his flashlight after tasering him.

 

Undersheriff Jaime Lewis says that they are investigating themselves after viewing the video.

 

“There are portions of that video that clearly have caused me concern,” Lewis said. “And that is exactly what has caused the department to initiate an investigation, so we can get to the bottom of it.”

 

The man being beaten in the video is 51-year-old John Madison Reyes, who said the incident started when he asked the deputy, whose car was blocking the road, to move.

 

“I asked him kindly to move the car,” Reyes said. “He glared at me and stared at me. And then, I said an expletive, ‘You need to move the car because I can’t get through.’”

 

"Let's face it, had the subject complied with the officer's directives from the initial contact and beyond, we wouldn't be sitting here talking about this today," Lewis said.

(Source)

What seems to have happened in the above story is simply that the cop didn't like his authority being challenged, even in a very minor way, and he over-reacted.

The recipient of the beating, Mr. Reyes, was charged with resisting arrest.  How is that even possible?  It seems like there needs to be something you are being arrested for to resist in the first place.  Something for which the officer has probable cause in the first place which you then resist?  How can the only charge be ‘resisting arrest’?

Sadly, many times after a confrontation has become physically violent the one and only charge applied is ‘resisting arrest.’ 

Of course, that’s a mighty convenient charge for some police who escalate a situation first, and then resort to using the charge of resisting arrest because, in the end, that’s the only charge they have. And while it’s not wise to resist arrest, there are hundreds of cases where people claim they weren’t resisting at all, merely trying to protect their heads and faces from heavy blows, while the police were beating them yelling “Stop resisting arrest!” like it was a magic incantation.

As in this case:

Brutal LAPD arrest caught on video; Department investigating cops seen bodyslamming nurse twice during cell phone traffic stop

 

The Los Angeles Police Department is investigating two officers who were allegedly caught on surveillance camera slamming a nurse on the ground twice — and then fist bumping afterward — during a recent traffic stop.

 

The two officers pulled over Michelle Jordan, 34, of Sunland, Aug. 21, for allegedly talking on her cell phone while driving in Tujunga, in northeast Los Angeles, the department said.

 

Jordan pulled into the parking lot of a Del Taco restaurant and got out of her car to confront the officers, cops said.

 

The taco joint's surveillance video appears to show the officers, both men, yanking the 5-foot-4 inch registered nurse from the open driver's seat and then slamming her on the ground to cuff her.

 

The duo then yank Jordan to her feet and bring her to the patrol car, where they pat her down.

 

Moments later, one of the cops slams the married mom to the ground a second time.

 

After placing her in the cruiser's backseat, the two appear to share a celebratory fist-pound.

 

Jordan was booked for resisting arrest and later released.

(Source)

The pictures of the damage to this woman's face are disturbing.  Think about what it would be like to be pulled over for a minor infraction, be yanked from your car, thrown to the ground, handcuffed, stood up, and then violently body slammed a second time.  While she may have been using words that these officers found to be less than respectful of their authority, in a civilized society grown men do not violently assault the unarmed -- especially handcuffed women.  That's just sadistic and has no place in a decent society.

In another case from Baltimore police broke the leg of a man they were arresting, Freddie Gray, cuffed him, and instead of getting him medical help dragged him to a van obviously alive and screaming in pain from the broken leg. By the time that van ride was over, the man was delivered to a local hospital with a broken neck, his spine 80% severed, and he died a short while later. His “crime?” He allegedly “fled unprovoked upon noticing police presence," which, by the way, is not actually a crime, something the Baltimore police were forced to acknowledge in the aftermath of the incident.  The police spokesman, Deputy Commissioner Jerry Rodriguez initially stated that there was “no evidence” of any use of excessive force.  I would counter that any time you shatter a person’s neck after they are cuffed during a van ride, that’s "excessive", by definition.  

Again, the initial response by the police, which began as silence followed by the filing of an initial report that said Mr. Gray was "arrested without incident or force" reveals just how broken our enforcement system and culture really are.

In another recent case a mentally ill woman in Idaho was shot dead by police within 15 seconds of their arrival.  She had a knife, the police got out of their vehicle, walked straight towards her and when she did not immediately comply with their commands, they opened fire.

Something Is Very Wrong

[note: an incomplete statistic was used here and has been removed and replaced with the following]

In the past ten years police in the UK have been involved in 23 total police shooting fatalities.  In the US in 2013 alone there were a minimum of 458 'justifiable homicides' by firearm committed by US police.  I say 'a minimum' because the FBI statistics are woefully incomplete because there is no mandate that police forces report their killings to the FBI so the database is certainly inaccurate on the low side.  But taking that at face value, there is a vast gap between the number of people shot in the UK as compared to the US.  Adjusting for population, US police officers are killing citizens at roughly 40 times the rate of UK police.  40 times!

How can this be? In the UK they’ve got hooligans and yobs, immigrants and poor people. They’ve got drunks and mentally unbalanced people too. And yet they somehow don’t kill people in the fulfillment of their duties as public safety officers.

In this video you’ll see a mentally deranged man outside of Buckingham palace threatening people while wielding knives. He was successfully apprehended alive by a patient and methodical UK police force that did not aggravate, but instead waited for an opening to make their move, which they did quite successfully using a taser instead of guns.

The problem, it seems, is that the US police have been trained to be highly confrontational and to escalate, rather than defuse, any situation. 

Police in the US have shot an individual’s highly trained service dog after showing up at the wrong address, and even a family’s pet pot-bellied pig simply because they ‘felt threatened.’

So the one-two punch here is that cops are trained to be highly confrontational and then to react with force -- oftentimes deadly force -- when they ‘feel threatened.’  See the problem here? It’s pretty easy to end up feeling threatened when you are creating threatening situations.

That’s a recipe for exactly the sort of over-reactive uses of force that are giving us the problems we see today.

An Occupying Force

If you saw the images coming out of Ferguson recently, you may have noticed that the law-enforcement presence did not so much look like police, but an occupying military.  Snipers perched on roofs viewing the crowds through their scopes, tear gas and rubber bullets constantly in use, Humvees, the latest acoustic anti-personnel devices, and officers outfitted with ‘battle rattle’ that even made one Afghanistan vet jealous for its magnificent excess compared to what soldiers were issued in one of the most dangerous regions of the world. 

How is it that a small mid-western city arrayed more hardware against its own citizens than you might find in an active Middle East war zone?  Who really thought that necessary and why?  

Exactly how and when did policing and crowd control in the US slip into a set of methods that match those used by occupying forces -- like those of Isreal -- who subjugate whole populations?

It turns out, by going to Israel and learning Israeli methods of crowd 'control.'

Israel-trained police “occupy” Missouri after killing of black youth

Feb 8, 2015

 

Since the killing of eighteen-year-old Michael Brown by Ferguson police in Missouri last weekend, the people of Ferguson have been subjected to a military-style crackdown by a squadron of local police departments dressed like combat soldiers. This has prompted residents to liken the conditions on the ground in Ferguson to the Israeli military occupation of Palestine.

 

And who can blame them?

 

The dystopian scenes of paramilitary units in camouflage rampaging through the streets of Ferguson, pointing assault rifles at unarmed residents and launching tear gas into people’s front yards from behind armored personnel carriers (APCs), could easily be mistaken for a Tuesday afternoon in the occupied West Bank.

 

And it’s no coincidence.

 

At least two of the four law enforcement agencies that were deployed in Ferguson up until Thursday evening — the St. Louis County Police Department and the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department — received training from Israeli security forces in recent years. 

(Source)

If the tactics and gear of the police in Ferguson looked military that’s because they were. The purpose of APC’s and m4 assault rifles is to go into dangerous battles and kill the other side first so you can survive.

I believe that one’s training and mindset are critical determinants of what happens next.  It should really not surprise anyone that a militarized mindset accompanied by specialized training and hardware has led to scenes like the one we saw in Ferguson, among many other places over the past several years.

I wanted to find out if the assertion of the above article was true. Had US police agencies really trained with the Israelis?

The answer is yes, beginning over a decade ago. Note that US police have been training for a domestic terrorist threat that has been almost completely non-existent, well below the statistical threshold that would seem to justify such advanced training and tactics:

U.S.-Israel Strategic Cooperation: Joint Police & Law Enforcement Training

Sept 2013

 

In 2002, Los Angeles Police Department detective Ralph Morten visited Israel to receive training and advice on preparing security arrangements for large public gatherings.  From lessons learned on his trip, Det. Morten prepared a new Homicide Bomber Prevention Protocol and was better able to secure the Academy Awards presentation.

 

In January 2003, thirty-three senior U.S. law enforcement officials - from Washington, Chicago, Kansas City, Boston and Philadelphia - traveled to Israel to attend a meeting on "Law Enforcement in the Era of Global Terror."  The workshops helped build skills in identifying terrorist cells, enlisting public support for the fight against terrorism and coping with the aftermath of a terrorist attack.

 

“We went to the country that's been dealing with the issue for 30 years,” Boston Police Commissioner Paul F. Evans said. “The police are the front line in the battle against terrorism. We were there to learn from them - their response, their efforts to deter it. They touched all the bases.”

 

“I think it's invaluable,” said Washington, DC Police Chief Charles Ramsey about the instruction he received in Israel. “They have so much more experience in dealing with this than we do in the United States.”

 

Also, in 2003, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security established a special Office of International Affairs to institutionalize the relationship between Israeli and American security officials. “I think we can learn a lot from other countries, particularly Israel, which unfortunately has a long history of preparing for and responding to terrorist attacks,” said Senator Susan Collins (R-ME) about the special office.

(Source)

Here’s the thing: your chances of dying of ‘terrorism’ on US soil are dwarfed by the chances of dying from practically every other cause of death in the US.  Terrorism simply is not a gigantic and imminent existential threat that requires special hardware and training relationships with nations that practice the tactics and strategies of occupation.

Terrorism is not such a common thing that we need to define our entire crowd control methods around it, but a rare thing, and is really what’s left over after a few individuals feel like every other option of redress has been stripped away.  Which is why it’s practically unheard of in the US, and most other civilized countries.

But domestic US law enforcement agencies have been training and outfitting themselves as if it’s a top threat.  Why is that?

There are not very many reassuring answers to that question.  One is that our law enforcement agencies lack the ability to discern actual threats from imaginary ones.  Another is that they envision a time when some portion of the civilian population feels as if it has lost all hope and options for a better future, and starts resorting to terrorist acts.

Either way, very poor answers.

A Dangerous Job?

One mitigating factor is to note that police have a stressful, dangerous and low paying job.  Erring on the side of personal safety makes sense when looked at this way.

In terms of dangerousness, however, law enforcement doesn't even crack the top-ten list of most dangerous professions:

(Source)

The death rate for sworn officers is 11.1 per 100,000 (2013 data) for job-related injuries. Fishing is ten times more dangerous. And even the 11.1 rate includes some deaths which were not the result of violent actions committed during an arrest, but things that tend to happen among a force more than a million strong (green circles).

(Source)

Even if we assumed that half of the reported job-related deaths were homicides, that would make policing about as dangerous as living in an average city (5.5 per 100,000) but seven-fold less dangerous than simply living in Baltimore (35 per 100,000).

So a stressful job yes. An important job, definitely. But not as dangerous as many other occupations, which is relevant context to this story.

Good Policing

I would be remiss to not also point out other examples of great police work.  We need to illuminate both what’s wrong and what’s right.

One of my favorite examples shows Norwegian police handling a belligerent drunk:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=66d_1394803929

Be sure to watch at least the first full minute, and note that this drunk is yelling, cursing, kicking, and generally ‘resisting’ and yet the police involved never rise to the bait, handle him with good manners and like he’s a human being the entire time.  Well done!

This next clip shows a policeman in Ohio refusing to shoot a man wanted on a double murder charge even though he really probably should have and would have been completely justified in doing so:

 

 

 

The man wanted to be shot and killed by the officer who, despite being rushed, and having the man put his hands in his pockets after being warned not to, and even being knocked to the ground at one point, refused to shoot.

That restraint was quite remarkable and showed someone willing to place his own life in danger before committing to take another’s.  He said afterwards that he “wanted to be absolutely sure” before pulling the trigger that it was absolutely necessary.

I do wonder if the two tours the former marine took before becoming an officer had anything to do with his unwillingness to take another life?

How To Fix This

Well I think I’ve been in the top 5% of my age cohort all my life in understanding the power of incentives, and all my life I’ve underestimated it.

~ Charlie Munger

I think the solution to reducing episodes of police assaults on citizens is contained within the Charlie Munger quote above.  The incentives have to be aligned.

My solution is simply this: every time a police department loses an excessive force or wrongful death case and has to pay out money, that money should come from their local police union’s pension fund.  And by law, these losses cannot be refilled with taxpayer funds.

Every single time a judgment is made against that department and the union pension is reduced, the retired and currently-serving officers will have to decide for themselves if they should keep the indicted officer or officers on the force who lost the pension all that money. Or decide if training and policies need to be adjusted.

I guarantee you that with the incentive to train and behave properly and lawfully now resting with the police itself, rapid behavior and training modification would result.

Moreover, I see no reason why the citizens of any given municipality should be on the hook for repeated violations by any public servant or office.

For some of the most abusive departments, the amounts are far from trivial.

U.S. cities pay out millions to settle police lawsuits

Oct 1, 2014

 

The Chicago Sun-Times reported earlier this year that the city has paid out nearly half a billion dollars in settlements over the past decade, and spent $84.6 million in fees, settlements, and awards last year.

 

Bloomberg News reported that in 2011, Los Angeles paid out $54 million, while New York paid out a whopping $735 million, although those figures include negligence and other claims unrelated to police abuse.

 

Oakland Police Beat reported in April that the city had paid out $74 million to settle 417 lawsuits since 1990.

 

And last month, Minneapolis Public Radio put that city’s payout at $21 million since 2003.

(Source)

Just align the incentives and watch what happens next.  The problem is, the incentives are just completely wrong right now, and taxpayers are footing the bill for repeated and expensive police behaviors. 

That needs to stop if we want to see real change.

Conclusion

The police serve a very important role in society and I want them to be as effective as possible.  They are there to uphold the law and protect the peace, which are extremely important functions.  Unfortunately there are far too many cases where the police have acted as judge, jury and executioner to suggest that there are just a few bad apples.

Instead there’s a pervasive atmosphere of hostility and force escalation better suited to war zones than maintaining civilian order.  The lines have been drawn in many police departments: it’s us vs. them.

Trust in many departments has been utterly shattered within some communities because the police hold themselves to a different standard than they do the populace.  Police commit brazen acts of brutality and get away with it, largely because they self-investigate and/or because the local District Attorney office is unwilling to press charges.

But the recent cases of police brutality are simply a symptom of a much larger problem. Society in the US is breaking down, civility has been lost, and the country is rapidly becoming uncivilized.

This extends within and across all of the most important institutions. Congress is known to work for corporations first and foremost. Democracy itself is bought and sold by the highest bidders. The Federal Reserve protects big banks from the costs of their misdeeds and enriches the already stupidly rich as a side benefit.

DEA agents are caught in Columbia having sex parties with underage girls and drugs, and the worst punishment handed out is a 10 day suspension without pay.  Nobody is even fired, let alone jailed.  

"Crime, once exposed, has no refuge but in audacity".

                 ~ Tacitus, Annals, Book XI Ch. 26

The FBI has just admitted that they had been consistently (and certainly knowingly) overstating forensic lab analysis in ways that favored prosecutors in more than 95% of cases over a period of several decades.  The cases included 32 that resulted in death sentences.  Many people were wrongly convicted, but nobody from the FBI will face any charges and many of the states involved have (so far) decided they won’t be looking into any of the cases to right the wrongs.  The wrongful convictions will stand, an injustice that is incompatible with the concept of being civilized.

The Department of Justice has utterly failed to hold any banks or bankers criminally responsible for any acts despite levying a few billions in fines for crimes that probably netted the banks tens of billions in profits.  For some, crime does pay.

I could go on, but why bother? The pattern is easy enough to see.

The US has lost its way. Fairness, justice, and knowing right from wrong seem to all be lost concepts and the trend has only gotten worse over the past several years.  Without moral bearings, what’s left?

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

Edmund Burke

Either the people of the US stand up and resist these accumulating injustices or they will get exactly the sort of government, and law enforcement, they deserve.

In the meantime, the challenge for each afflicted institution is to begin to recognize right from wrong, and in the case of law enforcement agencies, stop pretending like every single one of your million+ officers is a good egg.  We all know hiring is imperfect and mistakes get made.  Own up to them and let those who make serious mistakes experience the consequences.  Rebuild our trust in your necessary and important institution by clearly demonstrating that you know right from wrong wherever it occurs and whoever commits the deed.

If we don't do this, if we allow the current trajectory to build more momentum, the loss of civilized behavior will reach a tipping point from which it will be very hard to return without much hardship, and likely, bloodshed.

In Part 2: Preparing For The Coming Breakdown, we analyze how the boom in prosperity seen over the much of the 20th century is evaporating, and as the pie begins to shrink, the means by which the players compete for their slices becomes increasingly brutish and violent.  

Ask yourself this: If tensions are this bad now, while relatively abundant resources exist, how bad do you think they’ll get during the next economic downturn or financial crisis?

Click here to read Part 2 of this report (free executive summary, enrollment required for full access)

 

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Sun, 04/26/2015 - 19:20 | 6032445 lolmao500
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It's not aggression, it's an exercise of freedom spreading.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 19:37 | 6032489 TBT or not TBT
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Localities are too strapped financially, by past politicians' pension promises, stupid projects, and current vote buying programs, to afford more police, so they compensate with more brutal policing by the smaller police forces they can still barely afford.   Fedgov on the other hand can borrow all they need (states dont have a Fed), and so are remorselessly, gleefully using this to extend control over local policing.   Holder and Obama pounce on every opportunity to put local police under their control.   

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:10 | 6032555 Future Jim
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In 2014, Americans killed 59 cops, and cops killed 1100 Americans.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:22 | 6032576 Manthong
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Gee, all this worrying..

It’s not like a Boston Marathon door-to-door, or a Katrina door-to door or a Ferguson crack down or a Jade Helm could happen anywhere near me or anything.

We should all feel as secure and protected by the peace prize winner as Americans in Yemen.

 

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:54 | 6032668 TheReplacement
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So... the Chinese will save us!  Yay!!!

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 21:33 | 6032785 Keyser
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Germany, 1933 = America, 2001

Same same, but different... 

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 06:04 | 6033306 FMOTL
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Wrong , 9/11/2001 was a false flag/theft/fraud etc , Reichstag fire 1933 apparently really was a lone Dutch nutter who happened to be communist. See RedIce interview with Veronica K Clark "Demystifying popular Nazi conspiracy theories"

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 16:12 | 6035167 mkkby
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When did civility start to decline and what were the causes?  I believe it was a media campaign started in the 70s to spread feminism and diversity, and make ganster behavior cool. 

There weren't any decent black role models, so jail bird rappers were marketed and made famous.  At the same time, kids were raised by a mother only, a day care that doesn't care, and a blaring TV set.  No wonder the kids, especially inner city kids, are little pieces of shit on a fast track to prison.

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 11:41 | 6034042 Kobe Beef
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Globalization: It's a Weimar World.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 21:39 | 6032797 Stuck on Zero
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First, dissolve the police unions ...

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 22:06 | 6032850 PhoQ
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Wanted to get a current check of what's killing our cops. Went here:

http://www.odmp.org/

Here's the 5 most recent examples of what's making police work so dangerous.

Deputy dies when his ATV rolls over on top of him while on patrol.

Officer dies of heart attack while working out in department gym.

Officer dies in head on crash while transporting prisoner.

Officer rolls his car while chasing a traffic violator.

Officer accidentally shot and killed on firing range.

Is it any wonder that these hard working LEOs need to attack crazy civilians just to stay alive?

 

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 23:48 | 6033039 weburke
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and I thought the most dangerous thing for cops was the injections they are made to take. same with military boys and girls. trust, oh in all the wrong things.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:34 | 6032609 NoPension
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Give a man a hammer, he'll find a nail.
Give a guy a Porsche, he's going to find a road and open her up.
Give a dude a pressure washer, he won't stop with the siding.

Give every Po- dunk police force in the USA an MRAP and a platoon worth of military gear and toys....
Instead of serving Tony the back child support warrant at 4:30 after he gets off work, you show up to his house at 1:00am, all dressed and armed like Osama Bin Laden is inside, bash in his door, throw in a flash bang, shoot his fucking dog and Tony is lucky if he is dragged out bloodied and in shackles. Then they get back to " base" and after high fives, plan tomorrow night's raid.
They are not going to leave that shit sit locked up and the APC sit unused. Not with all the crime and fun to be had.

Give a man a hammer, he'll find a nail.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:50 | 6032656 imapopulistnow
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...and, give one out of five cops illegal steroids so they can bulk up in the weight room and exhibit roid rage out in the field.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 23:17 | 6033004 Manthong
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don't forget the starch and pressing irons for the upper body treatment..

 

now.. how many of you have Kevlar lined short cop gloves like that?

 

The donut guys will probably be your friends.. it’s the steroid guys you have to worry about.

..they are there for an organic chemical and psychological reason.

 

..and if you see a cop with a tight, starched top and Spandex bottom..

get out of the way ASAP.


 

 

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:46 | 6032641 duo
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When cop pensions are threatened, the shakedowns and beatings will escalate, because you STOLE their retirement by not paying enough taxes!

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 21:06 | 6032701 Christophe2
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The fucking cops in Montreal have the following stickers all over their squad cars (for over a year now): "On n'est pas des voleurs, nous!", which means 'We aren't thieves, us!", referring to how they feel their pensions (or whatever) were fucking stolen from them, the poor babies.

MOTHERFUCKING cops don't seem to understand that it is their job to catch thieves, and if everyone (including the fucking pigs) is getting robbed by white collar criminals, it's because the fucking cops are NOT DOING THEIR JOB!

God damn I hate the fucking police.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 23:40 | 6033024 Manthong
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Je suis Judge Dredd ? 

 

and oh.. I love everyting about Montreal except maybe for that overly aggressive linguistic supremacy thing.

 

Et se il vous plaît .. dire à la police l'a fait est la banque centrale n'a volé vos pensions .. et le criminel à appréhender est maintenant en cours d'exécution la banque en Angleterre.

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 00:38 | 6033107 shovelhead
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It was a French colony long before those Limey squatters with guns showed up.

Je me souviens isn't just a slogan to people who were punished in school for speaking their own language.

 

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 01:33 | 6033157 Christophe2
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I'm actually dumb enough to talk to cops and even verbally confront them somewhat (from places where it would be totally unacceptable for them to beat me down, like at the Mt Royal park, on a Sunday afternoon...)

...  And from what I've been able to gather, AT LEAST half of them are totally in on the corruption and purposeful abuse, so much so that it is very scary, while the rest are SO MOTIVATED to believe that there is no evil that it is pointless to try to bring them any light.

In fact, this trend is so strong and so freaky (like when you hear the veiled threats, even from situations where they clearly should not be doing so, in front of the very sheeple they are supposed to be impressing positively, to undo the recent bad PR), that I really think everyone is better steering 100% clear of the police, myself included!

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 01:43 | 6033164 FreedomGuy
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What do you think the massive rise in red light cameras and speed cameras and doubling of fines is all about? You think it's about improving safety? Hahahaha! It's a legal shakedown and the cops are good with it.

"Serve and Protect" does not mean you. It means serve and protect the State, their pensions and their power. It's more out in the open than ever.

BTW, I do not hate cops. My dad was one for a short while long ago. However, I am realistic on the State and the role cops play first and foremost.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:53 | 6032663 TheReplacement
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Bullshit.  We don't need more police.  We already pay them uberbucks (overtime) to stand idly by at virtually every road work site doing nothing but talking on their cell phones. 

The vast majority of drivers are able to navigate rush hour so they should be able to handle some cones and a van on the side of the road.  If you must pay overtime then let it be for real police work.  Obviously, since the departments don't need the officers to do anything more than hold down pavement we don't need them patrolling more.

Certain neighborhoods excepted.  Results may vary.  Past performance does not guarantee future results.  Carry your own protection and deal with life like an actual adult.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 19:37 | 6032490 Ruffmuff
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Hell no, who spiked the donuts.

Aparently the departments are attracting aggressive assholes like the catlick church attracts pediphiles.

Politics draws in the narcissus.

It is called positioning.  Rise up while climbing over anyone that gets your way. When the easy money vanishes then behaviors change.  

It has happened so many times before. we will and have never learned.  

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:57 | 6032674 TheReplacement
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Incorrect.  We have learned.  The problem is memory is short and not passed from generation to generation all that effectively.  Experience is the real professor of life.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:06 | 6032543 MonetaryApostate
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Right, that reminds me of a song....

https://youtu.be/FotCW5OIFZc

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:12 | 6032558 A Lunatic
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Yeah, it's the live free or die program. Stop resisting citizen.......

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:28 | 6032588 ZH Snob
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It's not at all that way in my town.  the police are friendly and helpful and are never known to cross the line of civility.  But then again, I don't live in East St Louis,
Baltimore or Newark.  those are war zones, and understandedly, people get reactionary and jumpy when their life is at risk from simply walking home or working a job. 

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:58 | 6032677 TheReplacement
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Same here, thank God.  Still, if you work in a war zone why not move? 

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 21:57 | 6032835 Jumbotron
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Not only keep up with the Fascist Police State of America here, but post your video and stories here too.

 

www.informationliberation.com

 

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 22:15 | 6032865 caconhma
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The US police has transformed from being public servants into  enforcers for ruling banking mafia. Justice is not their business.

It was JFK who was responsible for the creation of public employees unions. 

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 19:21 | 6032450 HonkyShogun
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Aren't police supposed to be aggressive when Dindus are robbing a store?

 

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:37 | 6032623 gatorengineer
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I think you nailed it.  The low end of scoiety is now beginning to believe that its there right to rob and pilfer without retribution.  The small percentage of those in the middle realize the 0.1%ers do it entirely without consequence.

 

Unfortunately the only solution that I see is MORE jails, and less welfare at the low end.  At the high end, well there may be a nail gun shortage.  Taking the Chinese approach to both ends is about the only way home.

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 11:49 | 6034065 Kobe Beef
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Does the Chinese approach to the low end include 1 child only (for those convicted of violent crimes, or seeking public assistance)? I'm all for it.

Does the Chinese approach to the high end include execution (for those convicted of high crimes utilizing a State office or budget)? Sign me up.

Funny, that such justice would be considered Chinese, while theft, lies, and murder is American. One of these countries has a future. The other does not.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 19:24 | 6032459 Infinite QE
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Police are being trained in Israel for a purpose.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 21:13 | 6032723 TheReplacement
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Young Israeli women are yummy.  To bad they age like Madeline Albright - seems that there is a shortage of bridges for trolls to live under.

Read the comments if you wanna be disgusted.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:08 | 6032529 Chupacabra-322
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Homeland Security Made In Isreal

"The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) is also involved in the effort to indoctrinate the U.S. law enforcement community. Its website’s Homeland Security Monitor chronicles numerous meetings between Israeli intelligence and police officials and their U.S. counterparts, to include numerous trips to Israel to learn from the masters of the craft about various aspects of security, including controlling borders and airports. Even firemen have made the journey, presumably to learn how a fire in Israel differs from a fire in the United States.

Ironically, American law enforcement and emergency services are every bit as capable as those in Israel and really have nothing to learn. The difference in practice is that Israel uses extensive profiling to identify threats, which means Arabs are regularly stopped and questioned. Exposure to that dubious technique is often paid for by the U.S. taxpayer as much of the travel to Israel is funded by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which provides billions of dollars in training grants to cover the expenses. Marc Kahlberg of International Security Consulting offers a package that is called “Eye of the Storm.” He promises “an exclusive learning tour into the heart of Hebron. You will have the opportunity to see first-hand how the police there are dealing with a daily volatile situation. You will feel the adrenalin, but be completely safe and will be the guests of the Israeli Police Commander.” As Hebron is the largest Arab city on the West Bank with a population of 250,000 that against its will hosts an illegal Israeli settlement of 1,000 protected by the police and army, it promises to be an interesting experience."

"New York City’s unconstitutional “stop and frisk” police activity is a preemptive doctrine modeled on Israeli counter-terrorism practice and it should be no surprise that the New York Police Department has an overseas office in Tel Aviv."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/homeland-security-made-in-israel/5346796

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 11:58 | 6034077 Kobe Beef
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You can't make a Cheka without an Internationale.

They're back. They're here.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 19:25 | 6032465 TeamDepends
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Jade Helm is a gentle hand up your bung.
-Former Secretary Of Scaring The Shit Out Of The Populace, Janet Napolifasciprogressonipalotano

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 19:26 | 6032469 Seize Mars
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Thanks, AIPAC!

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:13 | 6032556 MonetaryApostate
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Oh come on, everyone "knows" it's the Blank Check Bankers....

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 19:27 | 6032472 Jonesy
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Sticking around in the JewSA=getting whooped.  

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 19:28 | 6032476 fleur wriggley
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I did'nt read the article. In the USA every body has a gun. there is your problem.

the police are just typical armed citizen's.  The wild west never stoped.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 19:32 | 6032481 HonkyShogun
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Go stuff your tyrannical EU Socialism up your Merkel.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 19:57 | 6032525 fleur wriggley
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get a pass port and go see the other developed nations.

to be able to catch the plane for security reasons, your gonna have to pull your head out of your arse.

just for the record Im an expat living in the wild west of Asia.

where if you shoot some one, pay $10.000 to the police, and you walk.

 

 

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:15 | 6032568 MonetaryApostate
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Word of mouth is your worst enemy....

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 02:42 | 6033197 fleur wriggley
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to cure your blindness, maybe you should leave it alone

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 21:18 | 6032736 TheReplacement
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Do not forget to wipe your Hollande.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 19:35 | 6032485 Oldwood
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Our problem is not guns but the fact that the powers that be are supporting increased violence on all sides. Perpetrating a civil war here just like they have in Ukraine, Yemen, Libya, Egypt, Syria and just about anywhere else they can.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:40 | 6032629 gatorengineer
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Sorry their wont be a civil war here....  Just Genocide of the middle class 80% proletariat, 19.8 bureacrat technocrat, and .2 percent oligarch.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 21:19 | 6032741 TheReplacement
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I'm glad I'm not in any of those groups.  Hey... wait a second...

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 19:52 | 6032511 R19
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Dead wrong, but thanks for playing.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:15 | 6032569 fleur wriggley
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sorry I made a mistake,

the solution is buy more guns.

its right up there with the flat earh society and fucking for virginity

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 21:57 | 6032836 animalogic
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This guns thing...all a bit late now isnt it ? In fact, maybe a militarized police demands a militarised citizenary ? So perhaps citizens dont need more guns: what they need are grenades,, ground to air missiles, armour piecing missiles, 50 cal machine guns etc. How else will they resist the facsist state ? The ballot box? Another Occupy ?

Or, of course, everyone can just go whistling into a FEMA camp....

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 21:17 | 6032734 TheReplacement
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Then why are not more police killed than civilians.  Your theory + numbers would indicate that would HAVE to be the result.  Oh right, you are one of those bags of shit we keep hearing about.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 19:40 | 6032495 q99x2
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Arrest Lloyd Blankfein, Jamie Dimon, Janet Yellen and Jon Corzine. If you want this to stop you have to go after the ones supplying the funding. If you gain control of the funding you gain control of the law.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:21 | 6032574 MonetaryApostate
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Ya'll can talk about doing something (& you know you never will) to the oligarchy all you want, in the mean time, I'll just wait for the oil companies to suck all of the oil out of the planet, and grab some popcorn & watch the apocalypse live...

(Do you know what happens you drain all of the motor oil from a car while it's running?  The Earth's magma core is no joke...)

https://www.google.com/search?q=volcanic+eruption&espv=2&biw=1668&bih=81...

Anymore questions?

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 21:23 | 6032756 TheReplacement
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Yes actually.  What evidence of oil sucking outting being related to volcanic activity do you have?  Earthquakes I can totally understand but volcanic boom boom, not so much.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 19:55 | 6032519 noob
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MIAC Strategic Report - The Modern Militia Movement
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13232178/MIAC-Strategic-Report-The-Modern-Mili...
Published by DarkProphecy

This MIAC report specifically describes supporters of presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr as “militia” influenced terrorists and instructs the Missouri police to be on the lookout for supporters displaying bumper stickers and other paraphernalia associated with the Constitutional, Campaign for Liberty, and Libertarian parties.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 19:56 | 6032521 Chupacabra-322
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The moral fabric which holds Civilized Society together is very frail & thin. What ever trust, loyalty & respect The American People had for Law Authority has been squandered. And, the Muderous Fascist Totalitarian Authoritarian Militarized Police have no one to blame but themselves.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 19:56 | 6032522 Grimaldus
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Ask your self------ Who hates constitutional rights? Yeah that's right. Progressive big government assclowns do.

Progressives laugh about individual rights and liberty, sneering about "freedumbs".

The frogs are figuring out they are being boiled. The blowback against progressive oppression will become a tsunami.

Grimaldus

 

 

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:47 | 6032643 gatorengineer
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Nice thought, but the republican party went obviously progressive with W, and isnt looking back.   The teaparty was co-opted and crashed..... Libertarianism, still remains outside the mainstream....  Best shot this time around would appear to be Scott Walker......  As fucked as it sounds Bernie Sanders would be my second choice out of what is out there.  I think the big mis-nomer has been crony capitalism, what we have is crony-socialsim, and I think Bernie, while an ardent socialist take on the Fed, and a few other seats of power financing this mess....

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 21:27 | 6032771 TheReplacement
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So you missed the segment on Fox where good ol' Scooter, without prompting, when all, 'Defending Israel is our number one priority'?

Unanswered question from another poster, is Scott Walker related to George Herbert WALKER Bush?

Honestly, I would trust Bernie over just about anyone who gets the nomination on the R side.  I don't agree with him but at least I know where he stands.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:00 | 6032530 Laurent K
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Thanks for this very balanced analysis

I just want to draw your attention on two minor errors (minor because they do not affect the demonstration):

  1. If US police was involved in 458 'justifiable homicide' and  the UK police in 23, the ratio adjusted for population size is four time, not forty (four time is already clearly unacceptable, even two times would be the sign of a major problem).
  2. In the article you use as source about DEA agents caught in Columbia having sex parties with underage girls and drugs, they only mention DEA agents having sex parties with prostitutes related to drug cartel which creates a significant security risk. I saw no mention of underage girl in this article (could be that it took place but I am not familiar with the story).

Again, it does not change the result of your demonstration.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 21:00 | 6032682 Serfs Up
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One point...from the article....the 23 deaths in the UK were over a ten year period, the US deaths just one.  Multiply by ten, there's your factor of 40.

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 09:09 | 6033609 Laurent K
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yes, you are right.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:01 | 6032532 Rikky
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won't be long now....

"But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God — having a form of godliness but denying its power." - 2 Timothy 3

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:01 | 6032533 seek
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If you look at the actual crime stats, we've never been more civilized. And they have very reason to game the stats to be worse than they really are (outside of the stats on killing unarmed citizens.) I really think TPTB are working hard to make the perception the opposite, because it's win/win -- they get all their police state powers, and there's no real risk to the enforcers. Plus the prison industrial complex is desperate for more revenue sources as well, and it looks like their biggest cash cow (MJ) is fading fast, and we've now got most of the population beliving in gun rights so plan B ain't looking too good either.

No, we're not seeing societal decline. We're seeing cops desperate for paychecks.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:47 | 6032644 NoPension
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Your absolutely right. Real crime is at an all time low in the USA. But every day, they keep making up shit that makes us all criminals.
I do not worry, fear or care about gangbangers shooting each other. Have fun boys. I do not worry one iota about thugs, criminals or gangbangers fucking with me. Try to rob my house when I'm home, I'll do my best to kill you. Rob me when I'm not home, meh. Good stuff is locked up.
Cops, on the other hand. Every day I am on the road, I contemplate an encounter with those assclowns. And none of it is good. They are pain, misery and extra money to me. If every last one evaporated tomorrow, and individuals where guarenteed concealed carry ( but not obligated), our world would be a better place.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 22:47 | 6032956 rejected
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Open carry is nice,,, you would be surprised how courteous people can be.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:51 | 6032660 Buckaroo Banzai
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Seek, I wouldn't say we were more "civilized". I'd say we are definitely more anesthetized.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:44 | 6032534 teutonicate
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Good piece ZH.  However, I thought that it was a bit odd that you chose to start out the piece by describing the comments of a Sudanese driver and his reasoning for coming to this country and leaving his home country of Sudan.  Frankly, the immigration of individuals of non-European descent into this country has been a major destabilizing force in our society.  It has been encouraged by the cabal as a way of undermining traditional European culture in the US to enhance their power.

I am a firm believer in allowing all peoples to have self determination and to preserve their culture in THEIR countries, but that applies to Europeans as well.   The example you give of this Sudanese man leaving his country and coming to the US is not to be encouraged.  He should have stayed in his own country, within his own culture, and tried to make it better.   Contrary to what the cabal and cultural Marxists would have us believe, diversity is not a strength, it is a destabilizing force that has contributed to the unfavorable trends that you accurately describe in the rest of your article.  This is a sensitive topic, and likely to cause controversy, but there are no examples in history of multi-cultural societies that survive for long.

Nobody is suggesting that we flood Africa with non-blacks or Asia with non-Asians to deal with a "racist" problem.  It is only in white European countries where the cabal is pushing the mass immigration of individuals of different ethnic and racial origins.  The future of European peoples also matters, and some of the policies being promoted by the cabal regarding immigration are threatening the existence of European peoples by creating a less stable environment.  For white people this is not about hate of other groups, it is about the survival of our group and culture, and retaining our homelands.

I share your concern about unsettling trends in law enforcement in this country, but we can't turn a blind eye to root cause analysis when we contemplate solutions.

Isn't it a bit odd that the same cabal that encouraged this mass immigration to the US in the first place is now being paid to train officers to help us address the escalating social unrest to which it contributed?

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:48 | 6032648 Dearlydeparted
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@teutonicate

+1000 for this comment. Spot on!

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 21:18 | 6032739 Wait What
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you're right that "multi-cultural societies" don't exist. the most durable traits of each society are assimilated and the weakest eschewed. given the particular form of a society's economy, those traits that support a group's rise within said economy will be given primacy. other groups will absorb those traits as a means to their own success, or they will not and end up in the under-classes.

multi-racial & multi-ethnic is not the same as multi-cultural. it's why you see more success from asians than you do from blacks and mexicans. they absorb what needs to be done to succeed while the others steadfastly refuse. adapt, die, or be relegated to poverty. people can't change race/ethnicity, but they certainly can adopt specific cultural practices that increase their likelihood of success.

p.s. i fully agree with the author's sentiment: finding the right incentive is key to everything. put 'take settlements out of police pensions' on next year's ballot & it will get my vote.

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 02:17 | 6033184 malek
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Very poor trolling.

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 02:52 | 6033202 DipshitMiddleCl...
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Thank you for posting this.

 

Tyler should make note of it.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:03 | 6032537 Praeda2
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Chris 'really doesn't know anything about economics' Martenson ran into a coloured folk, better blog about it! Of course it degenerates into the same garbage he always says.

So a couple of cases from the past few months in a country of over 300m is supposed to be something more than anecdotal? Well you can look at Baltimore today and, you think about how you would handle that. Because am going to go with the porkchops on this one. The US is certain in decline in every shape and form, but it's the people, not the police. The police are reactionary, after the fact bastards. But Americans love to place blame instead of looking for solutions and no longer take personal responsibility for anything. One of the few things the basketball Americans excel at. Din du nuffin.

 

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 21:36 | 6032789 TheReplacement
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I was with you until the word "Chris". 

Funny that one of his examples was in Baltimore and that is also what you point at.  The question is not how would you handle it now that the people are rioting over police brutality and murder but rather how would you handle police brutality and murder.  Oh well, at least you had the personal responsibility part kind of right.  The problem is that you don't like that the people of Baltimore are doing just that (with some collateral damage but that is okay because our government does it all the time, right?).

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:04 | 6032539 A Lunatic
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It's an us vs. them world; and I think we're them.........

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:19 | 6032575 Offthebeach
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Police are a security welfare agency.   No one should subsidize your life.  It is your first and primary duty.  Get a gun.  Make friends and build a local support society with your neighbors.  Got lot of stuff? Hire security.  Or not.  Not my problem and I'm not working to subsidize protecting your stuff.  Are you a wimp, elderly, female?  We'll maybe that rugged guy you look down upon has some value. Hook up, marry, make friends.  What ever.  

Cops like all governments agencies are incentivized to make thins worse.  If there is no crime, or a lot less, out go their fat Crown Vic asses and they have to get a job in the dreaded private sector.  As what escapes me.  

 

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:50 | 6032642 ZH Snob
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this sober line of reasoning flies in the face of our nanny-bound society.  and anytime you might think that people don't want this, stop and consider how much currency comes from the being the victim.  just ask jesse jackson or al sharpton.  they actually make a living from victimhood.  some get fame and others cash settlements because the PTB encourage this helpless zeitgeist.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:20 | 6032581 noob
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Beware of Homeland Security Training for Local Law Enforcement, by An Insider
http://survivalblog.com/beware_of_homeland_security_tr/

So how does a person qualify as a potential domestic terrorist?  Based on the training I have attended, here are characteristics that qualify:

  • Expressions of libertarian philosophies (statements, bumper stickers)
  • Second Amendment-oriented views (NRA or gun club membership, holding a CCW permit)
  • Survivalist literature (fictional books such as “Patriots” and “One Second After” are mentioned by name)
  • Self-sufficiency (stockpiling food, ammo, hand tools, medical supplies)
  • Fear of economic collapse (buying gold and barter items)
  • Religious views concerning the book of Revelation (apocalypse, anti-Christ)
  • Expressed fears of Big Brother or big government
  • Homeschooling
  • Declarations of Constitutional rights and civil liberties
  • Belief in a New World Order conspiracy

Another common tactic used in DHS sponsored training is the slander of certain ideologies by linking an erroneous characteristic to a particular group. Here are some examples:

  • These groups hold the anniversaries of certain dates as significant such a Ruby Ridge, Waco and Hitler’s birthday
  • They oppose abortion, support gun rights and are affiliated with the Ku Klux Klan
  • They are fearful of big government, espouse support for the Constitution and want to kill police officers
  • These groups collect firearms, survivalist books and explosives
  • These extremists read books such as Patriots, One Second After and The Anarchist Cookbook
  • They are religious zealots, reading the book of Revelation, speak of the second coming of Christ and plan mass murders to summon the end of the world
  • These people grow their own food, raise livestock and plot attacks on commercial food production facilities
Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:27 | 6032592 One Eyed Jack
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"Trickle down tyranny" We "repressed some folks"

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:27 | 6032593 fleur wriggley
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'I did'nt read the article. In the USA every body has a gun. there is your problem.

the police are just typical armed citizen's.  The wild west never stoped.'

wow I scored a -17, must have hit on a raw nerve.

just gives me a wet wide on

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:27 | 6032594 rsnoble
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God i'm glad I live in the stix.  I'll hear them coming while the rednecks down the line start shooting at whoever lol.

I don't agree with all the Baltimore shit, but you gotta hand it to them for banding together.  If we could all come together for a better cause and raise hell like that, instead of stealing a free vcr, we could really make changes.

And spare yourself the vcr reply please.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:28 | 6032598 rsnoble
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And btw, not all cops are dirtbags I know plenty of them.  

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:51 | 6032658 NoPension
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I hear there where some nice Nazis ,too. Just some gave the rest a bad name.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 21:45 | 6032735 Christophe2
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HAHAHA.  "Plenty" of non-dirtbag cops?

REALLY?

So, what you are telling us is that these great friends of yours actually dare to cross the blue line?  They would risk everyting (like Christopher Dorner did) to tell the truth, no matter whether the perp was a cop or not?

PUH-LEEZE.  I would bet a million to 1 that none of your fucking piece-of-shit-cop friends would ever cross that blue line, 'cos they all know what happens to honest cops like Dorner.

But OTHER THAN THAT, I'm sure they act very friendly, when it suits their purpose.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:31 | 6032603 A Lunatic
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One of the main problems is that good and honorable men are usually not the ones who willfully pursue leadership roles. It is the sociopaths, liars, manipulators, bullies, and others with chips on their shoulders who gravitate towards power and then use it as a payback/control mechanism. Look around....they are in your church, your schools, your workplace, and more so in law enforcement environs. Sadly, many of those seeking positions of authority are the last ones that should be given the responsibility.....

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:43 | 6032628 Cabreado
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Ah, an article about "societal decline."

"How to Fix This"
But not a peep here about the sickness and corruption from the top down.
It got an honorable mention in the summary.
That's not good enough.

In fact, neglect of the corruption in lofty places is a leading indicator of societal decline.

You're just talking about more controls in the context of the symptoms.
What's happening on the streets is fallout.

"That needs to stop if we want to see real change."
What really needs to stop?
What requires more than an honorable mention, if you want to change the trajectory?

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:58 | 6032679 Seek_Truth
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I couldn't agree more with your comment.

It's easy to point out the problems.

But there are either no solutions presented, or the blame is placed at the wrong point in the pyramid.

It's easy to determine how to fix the problem from a human perspective- but nobody wants to go there:

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." - Voltaire

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 21:26 | 6032768 Christophe2
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Worse yet, with this type of article, the solution is always OUT OF OUR HANDS.

From the article's perspective, NOTHING can be done except through the system or through the decision of others, yet evidently this group of others contains lots of satanic fucks who are purposefully bringing us towards death and suffering.

But clearly, the only way we will fix this is by acting ourselves, since obviously the system is going to do everything it can to continue abusing people, in spite of all our wishes to the contrary.

And FWIW, I think that living a super happy life (I live GREAT on 15K a year) and sharing your successful solutions with people is one very good step in the right direction.  (Far better than pontificating about 'solutions' TPTB will NEVER implement!)

The elites are trying to dumb us down, but we can smarten ourselves up instead!

www.youtube.com/betterinfos

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:46 | 6032640 I need more asshats
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Did you guys really read that whole thing?

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:48 | 6032649 bobdog54
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Well I'm sure there are bad police that are brutal, I'm also sure that our society's respect for one another and the law is at an all-time low in the U.S. And just perhaps many good police are just responding in a like manner. History is just repeating itself.... once again.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:49 | 6032654 Chuck Knoblauch
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I think it's all bullshit.

No increase.

Someone is geting great pics that spur the drama.

Blame smart phones.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 20:49 | 6032655 Fix It Again Timmy
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The Motto of America - "Killing is Our Business and Business is Good!".....

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 21:08 | 6032708 Reaper
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We have a police/prosecutor/judge industrial complex. DA's have 98+% conviction rates, because police/FBI lie to enable convictions. The police/prosecutor excuse to themselves is that they know he/she committed the crime. The sheeple on juries trust the police and the judge, not understanding the perverse nature of trials in the US.

Police know prosecutors will try as much as possible to not prosecute police, who they need to keep lying for their 98% conviction rates. Judges want to be reelected/appointed and don't want trials that would indicate their malfeasance.

When this happens to a White man, the media doesn't report; the prosecutor doesn't prosecute; the judge dismisses the case for damages. Everything in a US Court is corrupt. There are no honest judges who allow actions against other judges. There are no prosecutors acting against police, except in extreme circumstances. There are no police who stop or arrest other officers for crimes.

This is the reality of US courts: http://faqusajudicialcorruption.blogspot.com/
This is the reality of NY Courts, federal and State (140,000+ complaints without remedy): http://exposecorruptcourts.blogspot.com/

The subliminal inscription over every US Courthouse:
Abandon all hope of justice, ye who enter here. Arrange prior payment of the judge before entering.

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Sun, 04/26/2015 - 21:26 | 6032766 A_latvian
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The first time I experienced this was in this case: http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Cops-look-for-man-who-robbed-sto...

The cops had taped off my entire street. No one notified me or any of my neighbors. I walked out of my house to go to the store (the one that had been robbed not 30 minutes prior), and heard the booming voice "Get The Fuck Back In Your House!" Not "Sir! Stop" or "Sir! We have a situation here!" So, obviously, I responded with hostility, because I had no idea it was the cops yelling F-bombs at me. I was just going to the damn store!

In the end... nothing happened. I jumped over my back fence to go to the store, and it turns out that the suspect wasn't holed up in the house they suspected. But it did show, with no veil, the way the Schenectady police view every resident: as a suspect. Anyone who is not One Of Them is a possible terrorist. It is a sad day.

-Former Resident of Schenectady, NY

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 21:39 | 6032800 CHC
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It's obvious we're living in a way less civilized society than let's say even 20 years ago.  The police today have zero respect for anyone other than themselves or the powers to be.  If the police are having a problem now - wait until summer when temperatures are way up and they do what they're doing now.  The fuse has already been lit with Ferguson, Baltimore - name the city or town.  Until the cops wake up and people on the streets act sane this country is going to have a very long hot deadly summer.  Police have to remember something.  There are more civilians/tax payers than there are of them.  Even cops have to sleep sometime.

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 22:02 | 6032846 kappal_toba_dhu...
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No surprising. USA is going down fast. However if one has never lived abroad it is hard for many to see. The constant propaganda that shows immigrants desperate to get into America makes most  Americanos think that their country is "it."  

 

We got out and we are glad that we did.  Things are only going  to get worse.  Get out if you can.  What you see with police shootings and the militarization of the police is a good  sign of things to come. 

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 22:59 | 6032982 robnume
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Rollerball, anyone?

Sun, 04/26/2015 - 23:14 | 6033015 22winmag
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STEROIDS plain and simple.

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 00:25 | 6033090 BoPeople
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Ya know what does not help?

1. All of the cop shows on TV where the cops act like jerks on power trips and do illegal things to catch so called bad guys.
2. The militarization of police
3. The removal of the need for search warrants, and judge approvals for wire taps... the NDAA
4. Killer cops (including dog killer cops) in the news
5. The apparent immunity of cops for murder, assault, battery, breaking and entering, entrapment etc.
6. Sending swat teams on a 2 in the morning raid when a friendly knock on the door would do
7. Cops wearing face masks
8. Cops that lie and fake evidence (like they do in the TV shows)
9. Civil forfeiture laws and cops that abuse them

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 01:49 | 6033171 FreedomGuy
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Scanning the article there is a real question as to how cops break out in large scale civil unrest. I'd gues that about 2/3rds will go along with the State as that is where their paycheck and power come from. They will not bite the hands that feed them and they really do not consider themselves fellow citizens. I challenge any cop to argue otherwise. We are "civillians" as opposed to them. That is actually an Army term for noncombatants versus combat troops.

I think more rural cops and those with a honor code would break for the people.

The real danger is not in a societal break down. It's more dangerous if a sort of mondern Fuhrer comes to power. When Adolf and the gang took over there was no mass resignation of the police forces. They integrated along with the bureaucrats quite nicely and quickly into the autocratic regime. That is the real danger for a society like ours.

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 03:01 | 6033206 DipshitMiddleCl...
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The difference is, the fuhrer cared about the German people and her well-being

 

Our fuhrer (obongo) and the new fuher (Hitlery) do not care about the greater good of America, they actually spite it.

 

There was no mass resignation of police during Nazi Germany because the German people were destitute as hell and sick of the money changers fucking their country over.

Adolf hitler and the Nazi party were fanatical about Germany and being German.

 

America does not have that as being American isn't an ethnicity.

 

 

 

 

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 21:15 | 6036323 FreedomGuy
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I will only agree on the Obongo part. Socialists everywhere have this amazing self loathing that destroys all they touch.

Adolph was no feel=good nice-guy reformer. He'd already written a book about war and was thoroughly invested in the Aryan myth.

He did not split Poland and the Baltic States with Stalin because of loving Germany or Germans, or France, Holland, Belgium, Norway, etc. It was pretty straight forward conquest. Of course he was "for" Germany or cared in the sens of making it strong but I could easily argue the same for Stalin or Mao or Castro based on that. Hell, even Obama will tell you he is most definitely "for" America. However, he would probably prefer a USSA version.

Autocracy was no fun for the average German even is they did not have to wear a yellow star. Autocracy puts its thumb on everyone.

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 03:03 | 6033209 DipshitMiddleCl...
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This summer is going to be interesting.

 

The summer of 2017 will be interesting as well.

 

Global World Wars and mass amounts of civil unrest are going to be happening very soon.

 

Enjoy your time with you family and the relatively peaceful times we live in becuse it's going to start raining lead and radiation sooner than later.

 

 

 

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 03:12 | 6033213 Loophole
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Police brutality is not new nor is it primarily even racial. Cops will beat the crap out a white person just as fast as a black when they are pissed off.

What is new is the profusion of people with the means and motivation to video it.

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 13:46 | 6034624 morongobill
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A correction, poor white. Rich whites don't get beat.

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 04:26 | 6033252 random999
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Fuck USA is like the wild west. American police running around with drawn guns everywhere for the smallest to non existing reasons you could possibly find!

Driving too fast? Gun out! Trying to run away? Gun out, shots fired!

What a disaster for humanity and freedom. Maybe 5-10 days prison for every police officer that shows off his gun unless there is another leathal weapon involved would be the solution.

Shooting your gun? Make that a month. Shooting a person, 1 to 5 years depending on the damage caused. If the victim dies and it shows that he was unarmed, treat it is as murder.

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 04:45 | 6033257 One Eyed Jack
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There is a solution at the grass level, don't interact with them economically. They want to act like an occupying military, treat them like one. If you own any business then don't sell them or their families anything.

http://whnt.com/2013/01/03/police-told-to-leave-dennys-for-carrying-guns/

That and remove the police officers immunity granted through his department and sue the individual officer for civil damages.

Currently when they are convicted of an assault/murder and are required to pay damages (to add insult to injury ) the tax payers are who actually pay the damages.

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 05:28 | 6033280 not dead yet
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Except for certain areas of the country being a cop is not stressful. If anything the stress they do get is put on them by their superiors as related to me by cops themselves. The pay isn't poor as claimed and the bennies are great. A friend of mine spent 8 years in the military and that counted toward his police pension and was able to retire on full pension at 52. This in a peaceful no stress area.

 

What we have is a concerted effort not just by the police but others to control our lives. Obama and his climate change believers wanting to strip away rights and living standards. If some of those wacks had their way "deniers" would be jailed or put to death. So much for freedom of speech. The food "police" influencing legislation and school boards based on junk science and books written by gurus with an agenda. Social workers who take your kids away and won't give them back based on some wacky belief they hold and there isn't much you can do about it. Or the education industry that continues to overprice and underperform but will not mend their ways. Common core is one of their disasters and it's much more than dumb courses. A huge boondoggle of regulations and costs. Which brings us to the real problem. The brainwashing of our smart educated kids that they are superior and they should be in the forefront of activism and change as dictated by the academics. If you feel above those you serve and look upon them as cattle that should be driven and treated with contempt you get to where we are now. It's so bad magazines and their writers show their contempt for those that buy the mags that pay their wages. The worst brainwashing of all is convincing every kid in the land go to college or be a loser. Brainwashed to go in and brainwashed some more while sitting in their classrooms and paying for it. We could go on all night. Society isn't breaking down on it's own, it's being broken by academics, the rich, the politicians, and others competeing to remake the world into their warped delusional utopia where they stand at the top and everyone else lays down and dies or becomes a bare subsistance slave to their new masters.

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 08:26 | 6033457 yearight
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Do you see what today's cop looks like?

Shaved head. Charles Atlas body. More stuff hanging from his shoulders and waist than Batman.

Finally figured out where all those Nazi skinheads from the past have gone!

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 08:37 | 6033497 deerhunter
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It is all about control.  On a recent road trip for a family visit from Chicago to DC area I saw my first "If you see something, say something.:  It was a poster in a rest area on the tollway in PA.  Brought to you by the DHS.  Didn't Obama say back in 2007 that we "needed"  a civilian army just as powerful as our military?  That poster sent a chill down my spine.  We need to wake up. Frog,  meet simmering pot.  You can go very few places in the metro Chicago area now and not be on some kind of survellance camera.  Life in the fish bowl.  Get used to it.  And to those who say if you arent doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about ready some history for God sake.  We have beome a nation of slothful belly button gazers singing Barney songs and forgetting the very basics of what made this nation successful.  Good day all.

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 08:37 | 6033499 firewolfsblog
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I hear China is nice this time of year....

Mon, 04/27/2015 - 11:58 | 6034103 DuneCreature
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LEO Looping =

Something like 40% (I looked but I can’t find the percent reference) of all LEOs are on SSRIs (Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors) because of ‘on the job stress’ and those vague guilty feelings of being a thieving, control freak asshole and all.

One side effect of SSRI med intake is a reduced libido.

As a result at home the usually rioded up manly nimrod can’t perform.

So he abruptly stops taking his SSRI meds.

Which in turn has the effect of creating sudden rage episodes and homicidal and/or suicidal urges.

Or a powerful urge to thump the crap out of the first person to offer up even a little hint of an excuse.

I think you call all of this a self-reinforcing negative feedback loop.

Be careful to not get caught up in a ‘LEOroid’s Loop’ boys and girls.

~ DC

 

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