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The Limits Of Propaganda
Submitted by Dmitry Orlov via Club Orlov blog,
As Paul Craig Roberts has recently reported, the US government is in the process of launching an all-out war on truth. Those who express views contrary to the party line out of Washington will be labeled a threat. Eventually they may find themselves carted to one of the concentration camps which Halliburton (Dick Cheney's old company) has constructed for $385 million. But that may take a while.
In the meantime, we can expect lots of other, less dramatic developments. Indeed, some of these are already happening. Here they are, listed in order of severity.
1. Self-censorship. Those who have previously tried to get the truth out no matter out become more reticent and prone to equivocation when reporting on “hot” issues.
2. Topic-avoidance. They start avoiding certain “hot” issues that they feel are most likely to get them into trouble.
3. Response to harassment. A few incidents of mild official harassment cause certain blogs to start watering down their content, or pulling down content in response to harassment.
4. Blacklisting. The officials start censoring content on a case-by-case basis, blocking or shutting down certain internet sites that they consider seditious.
5. Blocking communications. The officials start dealing with the “hard cases” of uncooperative individuals who remain, shutting down their communications by disabling their cell phones, shutting down internet access, and by imposing travel restrictions so that the “hard cases” are forced to remain in places where they can be watched.
6. Detention. Those found to be truly uncooperative, who try to circumvent the restrictions, are rounded up and shipped off to the above-mentioned camps.
This may seem like a dire prognosis, but actually I just want to present a relatively complete list of public measures for your consideration. Yes, there will be a few “hard cases” who will insist on getting right in the face of Washington officialdom in futile hopes of somehow affecting the political process or winning over a few of their compatriots. But at some point such individuals become indistinguishable from people with mental problems. That is because if you live in the US, actually know how the political system there operates, and still think that the US is a democracy, then you DO have a mental problem. You can't have it both ways: either you buy into the official propaganda, or you don't.
Also, it bears pointing out that the vast majority of people in the US are quite happy listening to Washington's propaganda, be it from Fox or NPR, don't consider it propaganda, and have been conditioned to consider anyone who attempts to tell them the truth to be tin hat-wearing conspiracy theorist nut case. And that means that tin hat-wearing conspiracy theorist nut cases have a role to play. They are important to have, in the same way that a village idiot is important to have, so that children can learn what idiocy looks and sounds like. So, why bother sending them to a concentration camp?
And so it seems likely that the village idiots... ahem, truth-tellers will remain free-range for the time being, unless they really lose it and start tilting at windmills. But then that becomes a bona fide mental health issue.
Unless, of course, full-on war hysteria breaks out. In that case, while the external goons are busy pretending to be “not winning, not losing” but somehow “keeping America safe” in yet another wretched part of the world, the internal goons have to be kept busy. Rounding up undesirables would give them something to do.
That's the state of affairs in the United States and its subservient territories: Canada, Europe, Australia and New Zealand and a few others. But Washington's propaganda isn't working at all well in the rest of the world, be it Russia or China or Latin America. In all of these places, Washington's message control has more or less failed. This is why the people in Washington are in a bit of a panic, and labeling internal dissidents as a “threat” is just them flailing in search of an answer. They can't stop lying, and they can't even pretend to rule the world if everyone knows that they are lying, so their only option is to try to squelch every voice except their own. They may succeed at this within the US (some would say they already have) but as far as the rest of the world—good luck!
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Psyop.
Know how to spot it. Know how to not necessarily tune it out, but figure out how you can learn from it if you do encounter it.
What's their game? What are they trying to 'sell' you? Who is their target audience?
If you need practice, start with commercials (assuming you haven't thrown your Tee Vee out yet).
America is not trying to rule the world. The NWO is trying to rule the world. First it needed to use America to do that, but now it needs to take down America to do that. That is why it is making the rest of the world mad at America. Everyone is being played.
Jim, consider that america has not been a threat to the NWO. Imagine, adult men in 1969 KNEW the moon landings were false, and they were amazed to hear NO truth from media, SCIENCE guys, academia, politicians, ect AND ANY OTHER GOVTS AROUND THE GLOBE OR THEIR MEDIAS. THAT IS WHEN AMERICA WAS PROVEN TO BE FULLY CONTROLLED and the ww2 vets threw up their hands in disbelief and despair and knew it was over.
Speaking of propaganda... can we stop calling this guy whoever he is Obama? (It's Davis)
"Barack Hussein Obama (senior) was born in 1936 in Alego, Siaya, Kenya in the village of Nyan’goma Kogelo..."
http://www.barackhobamafoundation.org/Barack-H-Obama-Sr.html
Unless of course at the age of 7 he took out an entire division of German Panzers during Rommels romp in the desert.
17 seconds of your full attention please... and let "Obama" do the talking....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv4jnlkxOaw
Accept the Truth, the whole Truth, and nothing but the Truth and nothing else.
The truth really fucks with your head for a while.
Work through it.
Once you do, there's no going back.
Red pill is a one way trip...
The biggest german newspaper:
»Bild newspaper was founded by the CIA"
This is a statement, which amounts to almost a Donnerhall. Dr. Andreas von Bülow likely (SPD) be familiar to many readers still as a former Federal Minister of Research and Technology. Almost two years ago was von Bülow in the Alps Parliament Congress the cat out of the bag, as he said what many people have woken always suspected in this country, after the Bild newspaper at that time by the CIA with seven million US Founded dollars. The interview took place far too little attention, but have the statements in an immense explosive power!
http://info.kopp-verlag.de/hintergruende/enthuellungen/daniel-prinz/-bil...
Just not commercials, events too. Like this nonsense in Baltimore.
Fucking FBI is tuned into every tweet and facebook posting they are making. Nothing is really going on there but the FBI is furiously filling up their "Jackets". Then it's just a matter of round them up when the time comes. It's for your safety dummy now get in the boxcar.
However it started... be it an organic uprising or through intentional police action (or even intentional police inaction) it has to be put out as quickly and professionally as possible.
Let's hope it's over soon because we are going to a very dark place (pardon the pun).
"...Then it's just a matter of round them up when the time comes."
I keep hearing that, Where are they gonna get the million cops to do it? They couldn't "Round Up" 10,000 people in Baltimore alone.
It doesn't happen like that. They approach it by taking out the very worst ones first. That could be 50 - 60 in Baltimore. They just up and disappear.
That scares the shit out of them. But still the stupidity continues. So the next roundup is in very visible. 10 or so are silently voted upon from the rooftops in broad daylight.
Thoughts of self preservation prevail and order is restored.
Out of the original 50-60 that disappeared the weakest ones are singled out, reconditioned, and placed back in the slums as agents of change who have seen what the Federal 'man' is capable of.
moon landing hoaxers are bought and paid for by the disinformation agents to slide into legitimate discussions about non-mainstream accepted conspiracies such as the assasination of jfk by deep state operatives and the reasons why john hinckley never ever went to jail for attempting to kill president reagan.
yes , in fact, americans put men on the moon. and no you don't have a right to your stupid opinion about that. and your insistence that you think it was a hoax is an example of someone who wants to poison the well of legitimate discussion about other topics.
and consider this, even if you are correct about the moon hoax ( which you are not) why persist in bringing it up????
the moon hoax did not lead to the take over of the u.s. it was not a false flag , domestic assasination or otherwise, an obvious attempt to do anything but persuade the soviets to foolishly continue the space race and the american public that the u.s. was 'winning' . so it is irrevelvant even if true , which is why you are obviously a paid troll put here to spread sad lies about something to stir up anger.
shut up.
"A honey pot, in intelligence jargon, is a tempting source of information or 'dangle' that is set out to lure intended victims into a trap. Ultimately the honey pot is violently and maliciously discredited so as to destroy the credibility of anything stuck to it by association."
-- Michael Ruppert, "Crossing the Rubicon," p. 184
All the world can be's a stage/
And we are merely players/
Performers and portrayers/
Each another's audience/
Upon the guilded stage.
-Neil Peart
I can't decide whether he was a greater poet, or drummer.
He did write some good stuff. Always love the lyrics to 'red barchetta' as well.
Suppose he needed to beat truth into our heads.
Speaking of the greater poet / drummer:
"Late Lament"
Breathe deep the gathering gloom,
Watch lights fade from every room.
Bedsitter people look back and lament,
Another day's useless energy spent.
Impassioned lovers wrestle as one,
Lonely man cries for love and has none.
New mother picks up and suckles her son,
Senior citizens wish they were young.
Cold hearted orb that rules the night,
Removes the colours from our sight.
Red is grey and yellow white.
But we decide which is right.
And which is an illusion?
Graeme Edge
The Moody Blues
Thank you Future Jim. Perfectly said.
THAT is the reality. It no longer serves their purpose. Diluting the national glue of shared culture by immigration and a million other things like Baltimore.... and on.
"The illusion of freedom [in America ] will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater."
Frank Zappa
The comments by Orioles VP John Angelos summarize the sorry state of economic rights in the United States today, specifically the rights of lower middle class Americans who have watched their futures wiped out by corrupt government insiders who have tilted the playing field almost upside down to enrich themselves and their Wall Street friends. Angelos did not say it, but if you look at the recent incidents of blacks being shot, the motivation is local government policy that claims you can fight crime by hammering poor and lower middle class minority Americans with traffic tickets carrying hefty fines, with stop and frisk arrests that carry hefty fines and with code violations of minority businesses that carry hefty fines. All administered by "kangaroo court" proceedings that provide well paying jobs to the patronage leeches who depend on the civil and criminal fine income to pay their bloated salaries and pension benefits. A side note: current New York City Police Commissioner Bratton, a big proponent of the "broken window" policing method, as opposed to community policing, has yet to explain why the NYPD has done nothing to investigate the World Trade Center bombing, where terrorists on the U.S. government payroll broke a lot of windows. Among other things.
WASHINGTON — In response to Twitter chatter concerning Saturday’s protests in Baltimore, which shut down traffic in some areas of the city and forced some fans to stay inside Oriole Park for their safety even after the baseball game was over, Orioles Executive Vice President John Angelos, son of majority owner Peter Angelos, had this to say on his Twitter account:
(Tweets have been edited together for cohesion)
The only thing missing from the list that I would say essential is to label the opposition as "dangerous" or even "evil". If the oppositiion has those qualities you do not have to debate ideas and it becomes sensible that you would censor or even punish them...for the larger good, of course.
Witches burning in 5...4....3....
The White House press corp is as useless as tits on a boar.
tittes on a bore
Hillary this, Hillary that! Enough already!
government has found an amazingly effective tool in social media.
govenrment need not resort to the actions above when it can simply use fake social media accounts to drum up false outrage and social vigilaism against those who disagree with it.
American Hasbara?
I'd considered the possibility, but where to they find the legions of propagandists able and willing to do that job, in enough numbers to cover the literally tens of thousands of "subversive" sites out there?
Perhaps they don't need to 'find' anyone. Just like with Israel there are plenty happy enough to rebroadcast the government line without either pay or coercion.
no sympathy for the sheepulace. show me a little blood and maybe a rethink will be in order.
“so their only option is to try to squelch every voice except their own.”
Right on target.
Shortly after 9/11, they established the Department of Homeland Security.
It’s certainly an innocuous sounding title… isn’t it?
But, when you examine the legislation, it takes on a darker hue. The DHS was modeled after French Committees of Terror (1792-4), the Judeo-Bolshevik Cheka (and its successors), and the Nazi Schutzstaffel (SS); all of which were designed to protect criminal and useless classes from their victims; that is, to suppress those who ask too many questions, or show a trace of intelligence, sense of justice, or independence.
They are even now recruiting and training people to be informers. By the act of Congress that established the DHS a system was created by which informers could make false allegations against anyone they please with near-total impunity. Of course, such informers aren’t described as informers; rather they are given the title “submitting person” and the DHS Act provides that their falsehoods will never be examined by any court or legislature or law enforcement agency. The legislation even specifies how this immunity is obtained. The “submitting person” only has to give an “express statement” that his lies were “voluntarily given” and that he expected “protection from disclosure”.
Normally immunity is decided on a case-by-case basis by bureaucrats or prosecutors. But not here. Under the DHS Act, authority to grant immunity is given to those who provide false testimony. What more could as thief want?
It’s all there, in the act that created the DHS.
Killing is my business (Major Payne)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXDsoM2QYqQ (0:09)
"What if this was a life and death situation?"...
Major payne empowerment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXvAAVaApek (1:07)
I cannot comment on this article one way or the other.
You just did
it's propaganda
The world is no longer like it was after WW2; it has grown up, it is developed, and it doesn't listen to US propaganda much anymore. The SCO and BRICS nations are developing their own institutions outside of Western control.
This is why the Western elites are panicking. I don't agree that it's some NWO plot to bring down the US.
America is self destructing like all other empires before it.
I agree. it is now possible to access a a partly historical reality than be told total bullshit
A number of people I know prefer Russia Today as a news source rather than british media; i cannot say they are being fed superiour crap, however, but it is more tolerable, in a way
Well, it certainly is more plausible than the outright bullshit spewed by Fox et. al;. Is it NBC (I think it's NBC that has Dianne Sawyer, David Muir (Elvis minus a brain), and George Snuffleupagus) I hate these condescending fact-altering cunts!
They'll begin a report with- Since the Russian invasion of Crimea and eastern Ukraine, which is a bald-faced fucking lie, and go on to report some truthy (not truthful) factoids about the issue at hand...
I fucking hate those cunts!
I hope I'm not alone.
you are not
For some reason, I can't get to you Cityzerosix, but just in case this comment gets through, just know that I loved you, and I would never try to hurt you.
More layers of developing dissent....While still the Sheeple sleep there are signs that more are growing increasingly uncomfortable with the party lye-nes. More heads knodding that used to smirk, more introspection of the propaganda versus their own lying eyes. (sarc). Can't say we have hit a critical mass but momentum is building. Not a bunch of boat rockers but more adding buffer at the expense of formerly discretionary spending.
Most of the propaganda has been to cover and hide the American CURSE >>> http://wp.me/p4OZ4v-3z
Propaganda that fails to propagate is f'n retarded. We have retards with too much money. Arrest them. Don't let them get away.
First off, it is every American's right, and DUTY to be a "terrorist."
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
My personal mission is to inform the people that I have contact with as to how we got where we are, who is responsible for where we are, and the way to Restore things to the way they should be. And to also try to keep things on track and focused on the criminals of the DC US and their bankster and Zionist masters. It is, and will remain a thankless job, but one I feel compelled to take up as part of my "duty."
I also have organizational and technical skills, and am bolstering my technical skills with the study of every FM manual I can get my hands on, etc. I am also studying tyranny's weapons and systems for familiarity, but also in an effort to identify weaknesses and vulnerabilities.
Tyranny has us on the main track headed straight to Revolution, so we, the people, need to be preparing.
People need to be thinking about what roles they can fill in the coming Revolution, and bolstering their skill sets, especially essential ones like learning to shoot, fitness, field medical, growing food, tactics, map reading and orienteering (There will be no GPS.), combat terrain and cover usage, etc.
They also need to be identifying now the enemy in their locale, and region. Where are the armories? How many helicopters do the local gun and badge thugs have and where are they flow out of? Where are all the thugs' citadels? Where are the thugs' vehicle maintenance shops? Ditto for the Fed's presence in your area. Etc.
With that said, remember, the American people are armed with a very potent non-violent weapon to use against the tyranny that ails us: Stopping payment. Their whole system is predicated on us continuing to pay on the banksters' fiat-debts, and also taxes. When we Stop paying on their stolen loot fiat-debts, and into their criminal enterprise, their whole rotten edifice will collapse down upon them.
The time is coming for we, the American people, to:
Take up our heritage.
Take up our courage.
Take up our voices and cry "No!"
And take up Restoring our inheritance.
See you on the battlefield, as I'm not going "camping."
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
The Four Rs
Rejection: Stop Paying, Stop Obeying, Stop Playing
Revolution: It is inevitable, so prepare, as they are.
Retribution: The guilty must answer for their crimes against the American people and the Constitution.
Restoration: Restore the American people, country and Constitutional republic.
Of Course, to the British, Our "Founding Fathers" WERE Terrorists!
+1
First off, it is every American's right, and DUTY to be a "terrorist." . . .
With .gov/TPTB's ability to track/identify people via their comments on sites like ZH why in God's name would you want to draw attention to yourself like this? Is this your idea of poking a stick in the wolve's eye or are you just a glutton for punishment??
Baltimore unrest, coming to a town near you. Fore warned, is fore armed, hopefully.
Fore warned, is fore armed, hopefully.
BIG fucking mistake! That's exactly what .gov/TBTB want the "liberty/patriot movement" guys to do. You take up arms against their forces, and actually fire at them, and you are going to get wiped out . . . .
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in the future, In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
George Orwell
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V-V
Thy will soon roll out the "Hear Something Say Something' program; complete with tax incentives, bonuses for multiple leads and a chance to win millions in the HSSS weekly lottery.......
The same Russians with the same message in ZH, nothing new here.
"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain". Zappa always got it right Miss him.
We propagandized some folks.
We propagandized some folks.
No way dude! They wouldn't print/show/say it if it wasn't true! I'm a believer . . . .
Not only that, but there is a trend, just recently becoming stronger within the "liberty" and "truth-telling" movements, for the top bloggers and communicators to move the hell outta dodge, and set up shop outside the USSA.
For now, this is safe enough for these "big mouths", even as close as neighboring Mexico. And it allows them to keep "calling it the way they see it", even when what they say is massively at odds with the predators-that-be in the USSA.
This trend will continue to accelerate.
Of that you can be sure.
the usa forgot that you tell the truth so your lie is believed. the neocons turned the truth on its head just as they should hang by their testicles.
German newspaper sales dropt more than 50% in the last 12 years. Especially the last two years the sales goes dramaticly down.
Many people do not like to pay for lies anymore.
European media writing pro-US stories under CIA pressure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGqi-k213eEThere is a catch to the propaganda thing. They start to believe in their own BS working on everyone. At the end they themselves are the last to believe in it. Then comes the let them eat cake coment and sching off goes their heads.
sching off goes their heads.
Love your sound effects . . . .kind of like ISIS/ISIL videos where they are pulling the knife out of the barrel and it goes "shvinggggg" like the sound effect a sword being pulled from a scabbard makes in the movies . . .
You want the truth? You can't handle the Truth.
The Truth is that Obama's real father is the known US Communist Leader Frank Marshall Davis.
Obama's half brother in Kenya wants a DNA test because he thinks that Obama is NOT his half brother.
YOU HAVE GOT TO GO TO JOE GILBERT'S WEBSITE FOR THE TRUTH!
http://www.joelgilbert.net/
Malik Obama Talks to Joel Gilbert
In this "tell all" interview with Director Joel Gilbert, Malik Obama, the "half-brother" of President Obama, reveals his pain and confusion over Barack's shunning of his Kenyan family after becoming President... Watch Now »
This article has no content besides the PCR link. A complete waste of time. Blah blah gloom doom blah blah. Why does ZH publish this type of crap alongside the excellent articles that I come here for?
Another dipshit shill says what? You can't be paid much to cut and paste this drivel.
How about this story that would never make it to our MSM!
US Training Nazis, Western Media Providing Coverhttp://novorossia.today/us-training-nazis-western-media-providing-cover-2/
Mark my words . . . if the USA provokes a REAL war with Russia (or whomever - not just another Iraq/3rd world country "bomb them to shit campaign"), the "liberty" folks that go on saying that the "USA started it" - or - "that [name of event that started the war] was a false flag operation and here's the proof" - or - says anything with a smell of truth that goes against the .gov/TPTB mainstream narrative on the particular war, is going to get a visit from guys in cheap suits and RayBan sunglasses real quick. If they don't shut up after that then they are going to get a 2nd visit at 4:00 a.m. from guys wearing body armor and throwing flash bang grenades at their dogs and kids and will end up being "detained", indefinitely, for "the good of the country" or for "national security" reasons.
There is precedence for stuff like this happening . . . . Abe Lincoln did things along these lines during the civil war (realizing the difference in the fact that RayBan's and flash bangs weren't invented then ;-) and ole Woody (the woodpecker head) Wilson put people in jail for years for speaking up against America's involvement in WWI. I'm sure there were plenty of people that started spouting off about WWII that ended up "going missing" but by then the .gov/TPTB establishment learned to be pretty good at covering their tracks and making sure that the newsies of the time didn't report on any of that going on ("Hey, your a patriot, right? You don't want to print that in your newspaper now do you?").
Ten Reasons Ukraine is Dead!
http://novorossia.today/10-reasons-ukraine-is-dead/
Orlov hits a home run again.
The New York Times Whites Out Ukraine’s Brown Shirtshttp://novorossia.today/the-new-york-times-whites-out-ukraine-s-brown-sh...