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2 Choices: Legislation Redestribuing Wealth Or Revolution Distributing Poverty

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Submitted by Simon Black via Sovereign Man blog,

One of my favorite historians is a guy named Will Durant.

Durant is unfortunately no longer with us, but he and his wife Ariel made history more interesting than all the soap operas my mother used to watch when I was a kid.

I thought about something he wrote this morning when I glanced at the paper and saw a headline about the riots in Baltimore.

In Durant’s seminal work on Louis the XIV, he wrote that “the men who can manage men manage the men who can manage only things, and the men who can manage money manage all.”

Now if the quote is confusing, just focus on the last eight words.

And Durant was right. There are people out there on one side, and they’re angry. They’re looting, they’re rioting.

On the other side you have the state trying to stop them. Police and national guard units with their urban tactics and weapon systems.

They are the ultimate expression of men managing men managing things.

But is the men who manage money, who are managing all.

In our system, we have an unelected central banking elite managing the money.

Their policies have enriched a tiny percentage of wealthy individuals while utterly vanquishing untold millions.

Those in the middle class find that they’re not able to keep up with the rising cost of living.

Those little emergencies in life that we never plan on now completely wipe people out.

And the dream of retirement has now become almost an immature fantasy rather than a realistic and achievable goal.

People that are even lower on the socio-economic totem pole have it even worse.

There’s a great social despair that falls when people feel resigned to their economic station with no hope of advancement.

Hope is the most powerful of human emotions. More than fear.

It’s the reason why many politicians get elected.

When hope becomes crushed by the system, all you’re left with is fear and anger. That’s what we’re seeing in Baltimore.

Everybody has a breaking point. And more and more people are starting to reach theirs.

This isn’t just about racism.

We’ve been force-fed a toxic monetary system that has destroyed any hope of upward mobility and long-term security.

And it’s as if the collective immune system of the middle-class is simultaneously having a violent reaction to this financial poison.

The objective data out there shows us that wealth inequality and income inequality are the highest they’ve been in modern times. And that’s really saying something.

Now, inequality is entirely natural. There will always be those that are stronger and swifter, whether among humans or in the wild.

Engineering economic despair as a matter of policy, however, is entirely unnatural. It’s immoral. Destructive. And as history shows, it’s dangerous.

Plutarch tells us of Ancient Greece being on a knife’s edge in the 6th century B.C. until Solon came to power.

Facing a peasant revolution, he devalued the currency, forgave debt, taxed the rich, established numerous social welfare programs, and even confiscated private property for redistribution.

Durant himself tells us that anger and inequality become so great that nature has a way of correcting itself, either “by legislation redistributing wealth or by revolution distributing poverty”.

This is happening all across the West, whether the anger in Baltimore or the neo-Nazi politicians being elected in Europe.

The world’s not coming to an end, it’s changing. And sometimes that change can bring some difficult transition.

We can’t stop it from happening. But we can take every sensible step to ensure that we are watching it from the sidelines.

 

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Tue, 04/28/2015 - 20:55 | 6041012 surf0766
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Choice 3. None of the above

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 20:59 | 6041030 kliguy38
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Right........they haven't even begun to distribute poverty...........yet

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 21:05 | 6041053 Kirk2NCC1701
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They got it ass backwards: It's Legislation based poverty,  or Revolting based wealth redistribution.

The former is what we're dealing with, and the latter is what will come to pass, if we remain on the current path/trajectory. 

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 21:15 | 6041085 NoDebt
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"I'll have those ni**ers voting democrat for next hundred years."

- LBJ

He was not kidding.  That was what the much-heralded "war on poverty" was based on and what the guy who made it happen said about it.  Later, politicians figured out it worked for people of all skin colors.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 22:05 | 6041169 MonetaryApostate
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The problem isn't the bankers, it's the managers of the people, they aren't distributing the wealth, let's face it, the bankers just print money when the legislators say "Quantitative Easing", and rather than invest in things that would increase a nation's wealth, they instead invest in things that plunder or extort societies, increase taxes that hurt the rich & middle classes, & initiate lame social programs (Very bad idea)...  The money printers aren't the problem, it's the centralized power center that makes the laws & the enforcers of those laws, they are corrupt to the core, and that corruption is causing problems.... http://galeinnes.blogspot.com/2015/04/the-aftermath-of-corruption.html

Facing a peasant revolution, he devalued the currency, forgave debt, taxed the rich, established numerous social welfare programs, and even confiscated private property for redistribution.

The problem with this is, it's the old "steal from the rich" (i.e. the people with money via inflation) to give to the poor, the old robin hood analogy that they have played out time and time again, but in the end the only ones who benefit are truly the established central government (Read Royal Class), & NOBODY IS FOOLED!  

PS ~ Take some real history lessons ~ https://plus.google.com/117105684737450236348/posts

 

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 22:14 | 6041238 Hobo Sapien
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“America is the wealthiest nation on Earth, but its people are mainly poor, and poor Americans are urged to hate themselves. To quote the American humorist Kin Hubbard, 'It ain’t no disgrace to be poor, but it might as well be.' It is in fact a crime for an American to be poor, even though America is a nation of poor. Every other nation has folk traditions of men who were poor but extremely wise and virtuous, and therefore more estimable than anyone with power and gold. No such tales are told by the American poor. They mock themselves and glorify their betters. The meanest eating or drinking establishment, owned by a man who is himself poor, is very likely to have a sign on its wall asking this cruel question: 'if you’re so smart, why ain’t you rich?' There will also be an American flag no larger than a child’s hand – glued to a lollipop stick and flying from the cash register.

Americans, like human beings everywhere, believe many things that are obviously untrue. Their most destructive untruth is that it is very easy for any American to make money. They will not acknowledge how in fact hard money is to come by, and, therefore, those who have no money blame and blame and blame themselves. This inward blame has been a treasure for the rich and powerful, who have had to do less for their poor, publicly and privately, than any other ruling class since, say Napoleonic times. Many novelties have come from America. The most startling of these, a thing without precedent, is a mass of undignified poor. They do not love one another because they do not love themselves.”
? Kurt Vonnegut, Slaughterhouse-Five

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 22:21 | 6041255 Hobo Sapien
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“Trout, incidentally, had written a book about a money tree. It had twenty-dollar bills for leaves. Its flowers were government bonds. Its fruit was diamonds. It attracted human beings who killed each other around the roots and made very good fertilizer.”
? Kurt Vonnegut, Slaughterhouse-Five

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 22:45 | 6041294 MonetaryApostate
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Anyone with a financial education knows how to make money, but that's not something they teach in schools, therefore, these egineered anomolies in our society are there so that the wealthy can stay wealthy, have a lot of cheap slaves, and enjoy all of their hard work via the manipulation of the value of currencies (Inflation/Deflation), hegemonic mega-corp control over markets (Crush Competition & Control Prices), & by writing laws (taxation, legal extortion)...

With a system like that over you, who needs enemies eh?  The wealthy are the most ruthless & corrupt society within the world & they will kill anyone & everyone to stay that way.

It's time we stop listening to their tools, stop being fools, and start thinking about how we can end the reign of terror & corruption.  (Before the other nations end us first!)

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 22:36 | 6041303 Cast Iron Skillet
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"...and poor Americans are urged to hate themselves." yep, and they are given the opportunity to project their self-hate onto brown-skinned people living in foreign countries to justify ceaseless wars that enrich the rich at the (often bodily) expense of the poor.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 22:59 | 6041345 ZD1
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Cast Iron Skillet has been hit on the head one too many times...brown skinned people....blah, blah... what a lame libtard. 

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 23:30 | 6041433 Hobo Sapien
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*sigh* I get the feeling that no one here has read the book. Sometimes I wonder if most of the commenters here actually know how to read, or if they're just copying & pasting "Obama is gay" jokes. Good luck & good night.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 23:53 | 6041475 Creepy A. Cracker
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Complete bullshit title.  The third, and correct choice is to stop taking money from people and paying other people to not work, stop taking money from people and paying other people to have babies, stop taking money from people and paying other people's rent, stop taking money from people and paying other people for their beer and Cheetos, stop taking money from people...

Make the free shit army actually be responsible and work for a living.  All of this would stop.  Mostly because they wouldn't be so bored and have the time to enjoy burning down other people's livelihoods.

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 05:42 | 6041802 Frankie Carbone
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Ahh again we have this clap trap trotted out. Tell me Einstein, if we ALREADY have surplus labor with the FSA sitting on the dole, what happens when we force them to attempt to join a workforce where there are already far too many people vying for the same jobs? Are the jobs just going to magically manifest once we add 2X, 3X the competition for thiem? 

 

Here's a hint. Baltimore becomes one of the most attactive places in Amerika to live in. 

Jesus, some people don't think, they just recite Republican/Democratic thought macros planted into their reptilian brains. 

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 08:57 | 6042178 Creepy A. Cracker
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Why are you telling this to Jesus?

Charity belongs at the lowest level - with the family, local charity, and neighbors.  The government holding a gun to my head, telling me to pay for Moeisha's eleventh baby or Darnell's crack habit is NOT charity.  It only increases demand for more "free" shit.

You are a complete moron - and the problem.  Good luck with your totalitarian future.

And, BTW - When claiming that others "don't think," try using spell check before showing off your "brilliance." LOL!

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 09:22 | 6042293 Hobo Sapien
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Yeah, uh, Creepy.... you're shadow boxing here. Sleep it off.

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 12:54 | 6042574 Creepy A. Cracker
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That was a very cute response, Hobo Sapien.  I hope that you get some sleep as well.

Now lets all sing Kumbaya while demanding that people with guns (not the police, of course, becasue they are evil) force others to work to pay for our lives.  Because we are... well, special.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 21:59 | 6041194 bonin006
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Who the fuck started this 100 years thing, and why is everyone mindlessly repeating it? He said 200 years.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 22:29 | 6041275 NoDebt
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I just researched it and you are correct.  He said 200 years.  Up arrow.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 22:00 | 6041199 Stoploss
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Go ahead and print the word NIGGER.

Take a guess of how many times the word nigger is used in hip hop and many more music genres, comedy, etc.

Money is given to purchase those recordings loaded with the word nigger.

In order to remove a word from a language, it must be removed from ALL usage in any form.

Therefore the word nigger since it is available for purchase by anyone, is simply just a word being used for the same old same old hate the white man BS.

When they pull all the hip hop albums and remove the word from their own usage, and any and all media references is the day hell freezes over...

 

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 22:47 | 6041236 MonetaryApostate
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I just wonder what people think it will be like when the elite collapse the banks, markets, and cash?

(They've repeated this whole senario before, but if you remember since the lehman bros collapse, a lot of nations were rioting, and so they HAD to back off on the inflation thing, because those poor ass countries were buckling under the debt obligations and rising food prices...)

Something tells me the end of the white race draws near....  

(They got too greedy & the people revolted, indeed I believe they are earnestly scared now!)

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 23:08 | 6041384 A Nanny Moose
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Something about Demockracy lasting until the electors figure out they can vote themselves a piece of other peoples' money, and the elected figure out they can bribe the electors with other peoples' money.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 21:17 | 6041096 boogerbently
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Confirmation bias, agenda promotion. Making stories fit your narrative.

ZH has become typical MSM.

Even to the degree that they allow "posts" that are straight up advertising.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 21:06 | 6041062 kaiserhoff
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That's one choice..., and a spelling error in a one liner.

Tyler must be sipping on Olde Grand Dad.  Full frontal Communism so early in the evening?

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 21:03 | 6041046 GoldSilverBitcoinBug
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Choice 3: moving your ass or investing/saving.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 21:11 | 6041073 crisrose
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Much easier to blame the man!

I don't know the average age but I would never have anything to do with most of the men on here.  Good god I've never seen so much whining in my life.

Are you men or wimps???!!!

 

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 21:22 | 6041107 boogerbently
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Did you see the skinny negress Senator from Maryland commenting on the "hopelessness" of living in a community with buildings boarded up for decades???

Too young and dumb to realize they've been boarded up since the LAST riot/looting session !

Too Funny.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 21:57 | 6041187 MonetaryApostate
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Did you hear about the senator who owns the electronic voting machine corp or the one that just started Kush Inc. (The Mary Jane Corp)  Obviously what's illegal for you isn't illegal for them...

The irony & hypocrisy has grown to new heights I tell ya....

 

Don't blame it on the man, blame it on yourselves for being born into serfdom....  /sarc

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 22:51 | 6041338 Excursionist
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The link this blog post attempts to make between hopelessness and the African American community is complete bullshit.

More or less since the civil rights movement, there has been something persistently and systemically cancerous in black culture and black mores.

Take an average fresh-off-the-boat Asian with little or no command of English.  She will toil and sacrifice to ensure her kids get as good an education as possible and have as many opportunities ini life as possible, and odds are her kids won't disappoint.

Take an average U.S. black with little or no command of (proper) English.  She will end up as a single mother enrolled in various public assistance programs and be absolutely thrilled if her sons don't get arrested before they're 16, never mind graduate from high school with something even mildly resembling an education.

80% of the black problem in the U.S. is attributable to the black community.

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 00:47 | 6041572 Kprime
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if her sons don't get arrested before they're 16

if her sons don't get killed before they're 16

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 06:49 | 6041844 Anasteus
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"But we can take every sensible step to ensure that we are watching it from the sidelines."

Hm, and best with popcorn and coke sitting in the armchair waiting until the oligarchs disengage themselves from their posts. And if nothing has happening for a long while and one starts getting bored it's time to stand up and go vote for Hillary or the other puppet.

That's how true revolution looks like.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 21:17 | 6041098 Ignatius
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Off-shoring not even mentioned? 

Wow, penetrating analysis.

/s

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 23:05 | 6041376 kchrisc
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Choice 4: Tell them to fuck off: Stop Paying. Stop Playing. Stop Obeying.

Tyranny's Paradox: Tyranny must sustain themselves off of those they are oppressing.
They need us. We don't need them.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.

 

The lesson of 2008 is that just a relative few of those in debt to the banksters quit paying. Imagine most of the American country Stops paying?! The banksters' tyranny river and plunder tributaries would dry up.

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 06:45 | 6041864 MonetaryApostate
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Here is the thing about the wealthy...  You think in money & money is ABSOLUTELY WORTHLESS in their eyes...

They don't need money, they print that shit at will, and they have all of the resources they need.... DO YOU?

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 03:54 | 6041744 legend247
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Since I started freelancing I've been bringing in $90 bucks/h… I sit at home and i am doing my work from my laptop. Th? best thing is that i get more time to spent with my family and with my kids and in the same time i can earn enough to support them... You can do it too. Start here... www.globe-report.com

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 21:02 | 6041040 0b1knob
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What a great big steaming bullshit pile of false dichotomy reasoning.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 21:04 | 6041047 A Lunatic
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I manage myself and manage just fine. None of the above for me as well........

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 21:06 | 6041060 kowalli
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Choice 3 - global slavery....

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 02:55 | 6041698 newworldorder
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That is a fair answer. However, you would have to consult the population models that Ted Turner and his cronies have envisioned for all of us.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 21:08 | 6041066 crisrose
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They don't want upward mobility.  They want freebies.

They don't want to be wealthy - they want everyone else poor (precisely why the looted/burned and put their neighbors out of work).

They don't want to live - they are happy to *exist* as bottom feeding scum.  They do, however, want everyone else dead.  And should you give them the chance, will be happy to prove it.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 21:29 | 6041123 boogerbently
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Hey,

That's insightful......accurate.....I mean, racist !!!

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 22:02 | 6041206 MonetaryApostate
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So how would you solve the problems with "Them" if you was president holding all of the executive power you could weld?

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 02:52 | 6041692 newworldorder
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That would depend on whether you had real freedom on action as a Leader,  or if you knew keeping your finger in the dike for as long as possible, - was your only option.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 21:13 | 6041083 orez65
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What a bull shit posting!

All this poop head can talk about is redistributing.

Here is a clue:

Capital = Production - Consumption

Act accordingly.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 22:09 | 6041210 Urban Redneck
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There is another type of redistribution.

Redistribution of ammunition.

The Browning M2 .50 machine is a small arm. (as evidenced by numerous intentional treaties that every government in the world is a signatory to).

One single small arm can do enough redistribution in a single minute to kill literally hundreds of protesters (or pigs) in the hands of skilled operator and against untrained or out of practice adversaries.

As much the USSA "police state" is up-armored and over-gunned for its lawful duty, it is not militarized (as are police forces are in numerous other countries) and US law enforcement are not trained to deal with militarized adversaries.

The US armed forces, however, are a military force, with far more lethal tools than simple small arms.

Hope has not been crushed and no breaking point has been reached. 

The breaking point will be reached if the military is ordered to do what militaries actually do, and the indignant indigents are forced to pay real costs for the freedom of expression.

Until that point -- riots are political theater and social conditioning for the masses by the State to pave the way for the "traditional" response to put down uppity serfs.  

There hasn't been a real clampdown in the US since 1932, and the consequences of a return to such policies are unclear, but meaningful redistribution of wealth and political power by the State to the People would be highly unlikely. 

On a slightly longer timeline... how did that redistribution of 40 acres and a mule work out?  There was meaningful redistribution of power and wealth, but the uppity slaves weren't the beneficiaries.  To the victor belong the spoils.

Rinse, Repeat.

BTW - nice false dichotomy for a title...

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 02:47 | 6041689 newworldorder
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Too bad most have not understood your comments. You are right on. Like it or not, when redisstribution comes we may be lucky that it may be  led by an American Partiot. Otherwise -  Hitler will look like a saint. 

The other point is that redistribution will not be strictly a US event. We have infected the entire planet with our Monetary Practices. Waves of redistribution are likely to hit the entire planet untill everyone is satiated. 

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 04:49 | 6041785 GoldSilverBitcoinBug
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Best redistribution and without violence on top of that.

Go Galt or MGTOW.

Government collapse.

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 06:09 | 6041797 Urban Redneck
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Wealth destruction is far more probable than wealth redistribution.

Normalization of insane public equity ratios, finally writing down the debt that can never be repaid, and the .gov and FED crutches that pop up unsustainable housing prices... all compunded by the USD dominance and over-valuation going the way of dying empires.

Buffets's Wells/BofA "wealth", Larry Ellison's pending multi-billion margin call, Zuckerberg's Twatter-non-product "wealth", and the average American's home equity will all take a hit.

Never mind what happens when the EBT and SNAP redistribution is either actually cut, or simply inflated into oblivion.

The pie will simply shrink.  And without easy credit (and banksters to facilitate it) the mirage of having a piece of that pie will simply evaporate.

Because without a strong and functioning central government, there is no mechanism for redistribution, and with a strong and functioning central government central government there is no desire for redistribution.

Victory doesn't happen by accident, but shortsightedness is the default Human condition, and violence is the default State condition.  

And no one has put forth a viable and sustainable plan to undo the wrongs of the existing central government in a redistributionary manner.

So what is best, will not be.

 

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 21:26 | 6041089 eatthebanksters
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Any and every group always tries to better their situation with rules that benefit them and by voting for those who 'promise' to give them what they want.  There are two problems with our current government:  1. The first is that special interests and especially big banks and big business have grown more powerful than any other group becasue of what they give politicians, which is money to get elected.  2. The other problem is that voters are not critical thinkers and will buy any bullshit that their idealogue leaders feed them.  

Obama and his dems have been a disaster.  Big banks are richer and systemically more dangerous now than before the meltdown and not one banker was ever prosecuted for what happened in 2008.  The wealth disparity is terrible and growing worse.  Our healthcare is worse and MD's are retiring while insurance companies have flourished under Obamacare.  Obama pretends to make promises to help but he breaks them or delivers to his rich buddies to maintain the power structure status quo.   If Obama's goal was to break our society apart he has succeeded. At this point I don't think change will ever come at the ballot box.  When a huge group of voters is so dogmatic that they cannot see the truth then they will rebel, as they have done in Baltimore.  I don't excuse the reprehensible and criminal behavior but this is born out of lies, crony capitalism, self serving policy and and being completely out of touch with society.  And I am frustrated by what he said today about how police treat young black men...he has complained wiithout provided any factual evidence.  (I'm not saying it does not happen, but what is the incidence of abuse by police with black young men when compared to othr young men and socioeconomic groups.  The cop in the Michale Brown incident was aquitted by the DOJ, and the cop in New York who used the chokehold on the the guy resisting arrest has also been absolved of wrong doing.  The cop who shot the black man inthe back is going to be tried for murder).  We hear all about abuse of black people, but we never hear the opposite.  As to Obama, "Talk is cheap." but that's all Obama does.  I worry this behavior is not a one time event limited to Baltimore...I worry this will become more and more prevalent as our economic policies continue to fail.  As long as the executive and legislative departments of our government are too spineless to make hard decisions to extricate us from our fucked up situation, and as long as they pass the buck to the Federal Reserve, then bankers will continue to earn gaziliions while Main Street rots.  Real leaders will extend symathy and empathy in the right place and time and will stand up to criminal behavior at the appropriate time.  Potus and the mayor of Baltimore have done the opposite to appease their voting base and t has ended in disaster.  The shit is going to hit the fan...

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 21:54 | 6041181 SofaPapa
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The shit is already hitting the fan.  That's what Ferguson and Baltimore are, the early waves of shit hitting the fan.

One thing that occurs to me as a useful paradigm to shift in people's minds is the idea that banks are businesses.  If there's one thing that 2008-2009 showed us, it's that the "money center" banks are no longer businesses.  Businesses sell a product (service or material), and if they can't sell it, they don't survive.  It's that simple.  The TBTF banks are not this.  They no longer need to sell anything.  They are now purely a ward of the state.  They rise or fall depending on what the Fed and the Treasury do.  That's not business.  That's government policy.  We should work on changing that mindset.  As long as people think of these banks as businesses, they are open to all the other myths about how the people at the top are actually earning what they get.  It's not earned, it's stolen.  Spread the word.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 21:20 | 6041103 fascismlover
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Poverty will automatically find itself down to the 99.9%...just as designed.  Provide enough bread and circuses and do it all gradually and bam!...everyone is looking for toilet paper first and food second.  Any revolution planned was cancelled by the police state or just the state.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 21:22 | 6041106 Freewheelin Franklin
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neo-Nazi politicians in Europe?

 

You best not be talking about the Farage.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 21:27 | 6041114 Niall Of The Ni...
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Solon did the right thing for the same reason any ruler does the right thing. He simply had no choice if life he valued. The peasants would have cheerfully overthrown and killed him had he not met their demands, and nothing this side of Olympus could have stopped them, much less punished them.

Now? The bad guys have seen to it that if the day comes when they are undone, they can rest assured we'll die with them. It took months for Sherman to burn Dixie down. Today it would take a few minutes.

Sure, you'll see the occasional Maidan, one scumbag replacing another who's no longer useful, an occasional loose cannon getting elected by mistake and being removed at top speed. A real revolution where anything actually changes? Maybe when Dixie gets the bomb.

Till then, keep dreaming and playing with your toy guns. Just know that when they come for you they WILL outgun you. You'll only need enough  ammo to make sure you have a bullet for each of your loved ones, and one more for yourself. 

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 21:57 | 6041190 gwar5
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Love ya Simon Black, but I don't think we're seeing societal hope being crushed in Baltimore, or Ferguson, or anywhere else causing riots. The minority, within the minority, are full-time black trouble makers and thugs looking for an excuse to riot and loot while Obama, their protector, is still in office. They are doing what they always do, whether it is in New Orleans, or LA, or Detroit, or Watts.

 

When was the last time whites rioted and looted? No one can remember. And there are a lot more poor white folks than there are poor Blacks and poor Hispanics combined!

These are the same black folks who can't get along with any other race like Hispanics, Koreans, or Chinese. The same black folks who like to play the "Knock-out" game agaiinst random whites and Asians. They're being organized by Sharpton and Nation of Islam (Farrakhan) into a de facto black street militia making demands under threat of violence and destruction. 

 

 

 

 

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 22:11 | 6041230 Lone_Star
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"he devalued the currency, forgave debt, taxed the rich*, established numerous social welfare programs, and even confiscated private property for redistribution."

Tell me how this isn't already happening?
*my consideration of rich just includes the upper-middle class, who are being taxed to oblivion.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 22:41 | 6041292 Md4
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Set Baltimore aside.

Our economic mess has nothing to do with Baltimore...at all. THAT'S a whole other story.

What does have to do with us are the last several decades of mindless, shortsighted American (and western) outsourcing of middle class wealth creation. And the cause of THAT is the heart of the matter.

Our crony capitalism has steadily morphed into a massive machine that all but drowns out any semblance of government of, by, and for the people. From military contract awards, to political campaign funding, to legislative lobbys that actually write the nation's laws, warp the country's tax code into oblivion, and fill the fiscal budgets with mountains of pork...we are precisely where we are because our democracy is no longer ours.

It belongs entirely to the whim and will of special interests that have warped and disfigured this once-great nation into an absolute disaster.

Outsourcing was DIRECTLY CAUSED by that machine, which are American corporate special interests. This abomination is what this country should ultimately be enraged with. Acting through whole armies of lobbyists for DECADES, they have so disfigured and disabled our system of government that the same now seems completely incapable of acting in any other interest than that of this immense monster.

Outsourcing could NEVER have happened without swarms of corporate favor seekers lining political pockets to bless--and even campaign for--it.

Ross Perot TOLD us what was going to happen to us...and he was RIGHT.

Without the jobs lost (and replaced with nothing) there can be NO real growth or recovery in our now-dead economy...despite the all the corporate bullshit we were fed about reciprocation and "new" jobs this would bring to our shores. We were lied to over and over about GATT, NAFTA, the WTO, and numerous "free trade" agreements. We were repeatedly told that all would be fine, and we would benefit the most.

Remember this?

What happened?

And more importantly, WHO'S answering for these lies today?

No one.

m

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 23:21 | 6041414 Oldwood
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So are we stupid sheep? If so we really shouldn't lament our fate. Wool and mutton chops are all we are good for.

While we know the policies put in place greased the skids on our demise, none of this could have happened without OUR contributions. There was no law that said we must buy Hondas or Toyotas. There was no law that said we had to demand union wages that made us uncompetitive with everyone else in the world. There was no law that said we had to borrow massive amounts of money to buy bigger homes and fancy imported German cars and the latest electronics. There was no law that said we had to self destruct, we have come by that quiet naturally.

Don't misunderstand me to believe that I excuse the thieving sellouts who sold us down the river, but....we could have said no. We SHOULD have said no. We have the right and the theoretical ability to refuse to purchase ANY imported goods or labor (so far). We have the right and ability to resist all of what is happening, but as a society, we don't. What we do do is complain and blame and some burn and loot, none of which fixes anything and probably only makes things worse. 

If we all expended as much energy working as complaining, and actually spent our labors in our own real best interest rather than on what ever shiny object the marketers dangled before our widened eyes, just maybe the world would change.

Or we could just go back to our sheep pen and wait for the next big thing.

We make it just too easy for them.

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 06:45 | 6041866 dogismycopilot
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Amen, preach it brother.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 22:34 | 6041296 adr
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Are we still trying to make what the ghetto people are doing to themselves into some sort of excusable behavior?

That they are somehow innocent and if they just had real hope, everything would be fine.

I think Mr. Black has been brainwashed into believing white guilt is real. What the police have been doing is inexcusable, but so is the general way of life in the ghettos. Just because you have less because of your own actions does not give you the right to commit crimes against others. And at this point most of the welfare class actually has more than many in the working class. Take a drive through the ghetto and see the homes of squalor with $75k worth of cars sitting in the driveways.

I don't give a shit about gang members killing other gang members. Many of the welfare race has lost the ability to become a functioning part of society decades ago. It isn't possible for them to become part of productive society anymore. The knowledge and skill necessary to perform even the simplest jobs does not exist. Tell me again where the booming business exists in the inner city, other than drugs and prostitution.

The elephant in the room will never be addressed by the mainstream media. That there is a major problem in America and it starts and ends with members of a certain tribe and the ghetto army they have been feeding for forty years. Blogs and fringe media speak the truth and people are waking up, just not quickly enough.

Step 1: End the Fed
Step 2: Shut down EBT
Step 3: 90% of corporations go bankrupt
Step 4: Millions die
Step 5: Rebuild

There really is no other option. That is the burden of knowing and why the wizzard behind the curtain thinks no person will act against them. It comes down to choice. You either continue to live in the Matrix, or you let the world burn. When the world is on fire you have to live with knowing you lit the match.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 22:54 | 6041341 kchrisc
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Your, our, hope can be found staring back at you from a mirror. As well as the Restoration of the American country, people, our freedoms, and our human dignity.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 23:00 | 6041371 Goldilocks
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The Holocaust Debunked Once and for All
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1slx74zKQMc (1:17:22)
Published on Apr 19, 2015

 

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 00:49 | 6041576 q99x2
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The Holocaust was real. More to come and the elite aren't racist. Fight it before it comes for you because it has started. 2 million mid-easterners since Iraq and on its way now to the the western world. Cheney is busy building the camps.

Tue, 04/28/2015 - 23:42 | 6041461 besnook
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is it my fault everyone can't day trade? and they need us because we provide the only, close to real, liquidity. take a hint from those chinese knitting clubs. trade your way to, to, to, uhhhmm....somewhere! to bankster heaven! a semichosen one.

 

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 00:34 | 6041541 arrowrod
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Let's get one thing staight, outsourcing jobs is moving old tech out of the way.  Apparently, a lot of commentors yearn for a job working in an assembly plant, or sewing clothes. 

This is "murica.  You're supposed to get a STEM education and invent stuff.   After you invent stuff, you IPO your stuff and live like Bill Gates.

The Asians understand this. 

The good news:  There is enough wealth, however created, to provide EBT cards to those that can't compete.

 

 

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 00:43 | 6041561 q99x2
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the men who can manage money manage all

Arrest Lloyd Blankfein.


Wed, 04/29/2015 - 00:46 | 6041566 greggh99
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Choice 3. Proofread the headlines at least before publishing. The poor writing, typos and bad grammar are getting more and more cringe-worthy.

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 04:30 | 6041736 CryptoCoinUser
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Choice 3: Liberty and Personal Sovereignty / responsibilty - instead of relying on The State to initiate even more force (by redistributiong wealth) to temporarily placate the masses from problems caused by its own monopolies (money, education, defense..) and initiation of force (taxes for "services" you may not opt out of & locking up those who step out of line in cages)

For example, we can start switching to Gold, Silver and Bitcoin to get out from under the State's or the Central Bank's seeming monopoly on money.

How many of the rioters attended State schools, watching MSM and Hollywood that are in bed with the State, while their fathers were wasting away in State prisons, and while their moms were on State welfare?

Looting is also kind of wealth redistribution, just cutting out the middle man (The State).

I can't believe such a false-choice, Statist artcile made it onto ZH. And from "*Sovereign* Man" blog - how ironic.

 

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 04:26 | 6041780 Batman11
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We are witnessing the end of the current monetary system where all new money can only be created with debt.

This system has worked very well when the borrowed money is invested wisely and returns the principal plus interest to pay off that debt. This is/was the engine of Capitalism.

But today debt is taken on for frivolous financial speculation that can only end in tears.

Perhaps the most obvious example is the housing boom that is present across the globe today throughout the West and most of the East too.

Also, Government debt sits at record levels throughout the West and East, with Japan being the worst example.

The repayments on this debt are now crippling Governments and killing global demand.

Government debt is so high interest rates can never be raised as most Governments will go bankrupt very quickly, e.g UK, US and Japan.

But cheap money allows ever more financial speculation and mal-investment.

The system is now locked into a doomsday scenario but it has been so profitable for many at the top they can’t bear to see it go. They want to keep it running until the last final collapse and Central Banks are doing everything they can, eg: keeping interest rates at levels where the current debt doesn’t cause mass defaults (particularly of their own nations) and pumping trillions of QE into the system.

In the end it all has to go boom, it is locked into the system. The current cure of cheap money is killing it through financial speculation and mal-investment.

But there are other monetary systems that are more effective, particularly when bankers have lost the art of prudent lending.

See the positive money web site for details of one alternative, there are others.  

 

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 06:51 | 6041872 dogismycopilot
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Right on. I justy picked up James Rickards' "Death of Money". In the introduction he talks about how money will be thrown out helicopters, but some people won't pick it up because they know it will be created through debt.

For me, this shit stops here and now. 

No new car this year. No second house this year. Nothing new for next 12 months except guns, ammo, and food.

The weird thing is that I am right now making more money than I ever have in my life - and I still feel poor. WTF?

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 08:17 | 6042046 d edwards
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the so called poor in the US are wealthy when compared to the truly poor in other nations. We refer to those in theUS as the free shit army-free food,housing, 0baMao phones etc. Noone elsehas the time to riot andraise hell because they're too busy working.

make no mistake, these people are being organized bySEIU fundedbySoros infiltrated by anarchists and agited by Al Sharpton.

 

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 08:05 | 6042017 TheGreatRecovery
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“the men who can manage men manage the men who can manage only things, and the men who can manage money manage all.”

 

And yet, every one of homo sapiens' advances were provided by men who managed things, by inventing better tools and medicines, not by men who managed men or who managed money.

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 12:52 | 6043199 buyingsterling
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The system's not fair. But most of these people are the ones who have spent their lives avoiding real work, whether in school or life. We're carrying them on proverbial litters while we struggle wtih each step. A nomadic society would let them starve because the situation would be so obvious.

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