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Iran Forces Open Fire On, Seize "Trespassing"US Cargo Ship With 34 People On Board, Arabiya Reports
Update 3: Turns out Iran did seize a ship, just not a US ship:
- PENTAGON SAYS NO US SHIP WAS SEIZED BY IRAN
- NON-U.S. SHIP MAY HAVE BEEN SEIZED BY IRAN, U.S. OFFICIAL SAYS
- IRANIAN MILITARY BOARDED MARSHALL ISLANDS-FLAGGED CARGO SHIP
- IRANIANS BOARDED MV MAERSK TIGRIS CARGO SHIP: PENTAGON
Update 2: Curiously, while we were confident Iran would deny the report first, it was in fact the US: US NAVY DENIES CONFRONTATION WITH IRANIAN MILITARY: CNBC
The good news is that it will be very easy to confirm who is lying and who is telling the truth, in a matter of hours.
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Update: WHITE HOUSE REFERS COMMENT ON IRAN SHIP CAPTURE TO DEFENSE DEPT
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Moments ago according to the native Twitter feed of al-Arabiya (which is owned by the Saudis), Iranian forces have seized a US cargo ship, which has some 34 American sailors, which they have taken to the port of Bandar Abbas.
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— ??????? ???? (@AlArabiya_Brk) April 28, 2015
??????? ????????? ???????? ??? ????? ??? 34 ????? ??????? #???????_????
— ??????? ???? (@AlArabiya_Brk) April 28, 2015
Al Arabiya adds that Iran fired on the US cargo ship before escoring it, a move which will surely lead to a rapid and violent escalation in the gulf:
????? ???? ????? ??? ????? ??? ??????? ??????? ??? ????? ???? ???? #???????_????
— ??????? ???? (@AlArabiya_Brk) April 28, 2015
Iran's Farsnews confirms the Arabiya report, stating that "a US cargo ship with 34 crew was stopped and seized by Iranian Navy warships on Tuesday. The Iranian Navy has confiscated the American trade vessel with all its 34 crew for trespassing on Iran's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf."
An Iranian warship is now taking the American vessel to Iran's Southern port city of Bandar Abbas in the Persian Gulf.
There has been no official confirmation of the seizure yet.
It is unclear why Iran would do this and if this is merely yet another Saudi provocation (expect a full denial by Iran), but the US kneejerk reaction may not only scuttle, so to say, any ongoing Iran nuclear negotiations, but led to a far more violent retaliation, which may explain the move in crude if not the move lower in stocks.
After all global war is bullish for risk.
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Just a few hours earlier Iran has demanded that Israel give up its “nuclear weapons”, as it spoke on behalf of the 120-nation Non-Aligned Movement. Iran’s Foreign Minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif said the bloc also wants a nuclear free-zone in the Middle East.
According to RT, Mohammad Javad Zarif was speaking at the United Nations for the non-aligned group of countries. Israel has never admitted or denied the widespread assumption it has nuclear weapons. However, Zarif says Israel’s assumed nuclear arsenal was a threat to regional security.
The Iranian Foreign Minister said the non-aligned movement regards Israel’s nuclear program as, “a serious and continuing threat to the security of neighboring and other states, and condemned Israel for continuing to develop and stockpile nuclear arsenals,” according to Reuters.
Israel has not signed up to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), though it has sent an observer to the month long conference for the first time in 20 years.
Zarif added that the non-aligned bloc are looking to create a nuclear free-zone in the Middle East “as a matter of high priority,” which will only be possible, if Israel abandons its nuclear stockpile.
“Israel, [is] the only one in the region that has neither joined the NPT nor declared its intention to do so, (...) renounce possession of nuclear weapons,” AFP cited Zarif as saying.
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For now the reaction is evident in crude prices...
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And here is the latest US naval map update:
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look after it
This is how you properly negotiate a nuclear weapons treaty.
False Flag
Maybe, or "owned by the Saudis" was the key to the above.
The Gulf of Bandar Abbas incident.
Yeah. And like there's a US flagged merchant ship let alone a US crew. What a joke. All merchant ships are owned by a twelfth order holding company, flagged in Panama or Liberia, and carry crews from Indonesia and Malaysia.
The Brookings Institution's 2009 policy paper titled, "Which Path to Persia? Options for a New American Strategy Toward Iran," makes clear that negotiations with Iran over its nuclear program is merely theater, and that it will be used to give the world the impression that the United States explored all possible "peaceful" options before resorting to violent regime change. The report states specifically that:
Gulf of Tonkin event?
34 American sailors
That sounds familiar. Remember the Liberty.
is to strike only when there is a widespread conviction that the Iranians were given but then rejected a superb offer—one so good that only a regime determined to acquire nuclear weapons and acquire them for the wrong reasons would turn it down.
You mean like when we were bombing Iraq, Iran came crawling to the US for a deal and Cheney said FU???
One thought - if Iran does have a 'magrav' electronic warfare system that can shut-down electronics systems on weapons, ships, aircraft, etc., perhaps it is trying to provoke a confrontation to show off the capacity of the system.
Perhaps the Yemeni coast was not the rigth place and they've selected home turf.
US navy says this isn't true, at least MarketWatch.com is saying the US Navy says it's not true. http://i.imgur.com/E4DHM3C.jpg
The Magrav EW system, if it does indeed exist, would render opponents into PeeWee Herman vs Mike Tyson in his prime.
One thing that this situation is useful for is cover as the metal situation at the LBMA is not good - see James Turk's analysis of silver price backwardation:
http://kingworldnews.com/as-greek-crisis-accelerates-tidal-wave-of-buying-overwhelms-gold-and-silver-shorts/
Blame the metals surge on Iran.
#bringbackoursailors
Why would a cargo ship have 34 people on board? I thought a modern cargo ship never needs more than 10 sailors.
24 Thai cabin boyz.
Anyone old enough to remember the Mayaguez incident?
A gift from Hill to Bill?
Pinto, you nailed it way above.
Gulf of....maybe ???????? ??????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????? incident at this point.
Many gulfs are stressed out world over.
Including the Gulf region.
Perhpas the idea is that soon we will all be en-Gulfed in something.
There is a counter force, but it's so damn scattered right now...
Thoughts in general, we need to come together....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7QkQ4pZEa8
Dude, hows that Himalayan kush? You baked?
Why must you create a great Gulf between us all with your snide comments?
The gulf exists in your mind bro. Get YOUR mind right.
do.you.understand? No really, do you get it? Think man, think!
All arguments are valid. Do not fucking try to control me.
...Key element here is including Israel/nuclear in the mix.
Israel has been untouched to date.
Related news:
ISIS Leader Al Baghdadi Dies in Israeli Hospitalhttp://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/04/27/isis-leader-al-baghdadi-dies-in-...
It was all about raising the cost of oil??? The profiteering elite are making me sick!
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/04/28/markets-oil-idUKL4N0XP2EN20150428
No, drop it so that USMIL and RUSMIL and NATOMIL and CHINAMIL can make their strategic re-positioning on the cheap.
When the bombs start flying, it will be SPR and all internal production dependant to each his own with oil fields afire in the ME.
Watch it nibble higher may-august, then august 15, perhaps the next great oil shock? The basis for the September crash generally...
I'm going to put some money on this....
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Outstanding!
Now, instead of MAC V SOG, we can ressurect it as
MAC-I SOG
Back to the future.
Those guys were badass.
33 has to be
i mean i have never heard of a 34 degree masonical.
saturn rings to 33 sounds betteror
No, this is the second Iranian Hostage Crisis in the making,
Iran's government has a thing for taking US hostages in the face of a weak, incompetent, US president. I'm sure I'm going to offend people here by saying this, but if you actually lived through the first one in '79 it's almost impossible not to have this thought go through your head.
Iran just gave Obama the middle finger in the most public and embarassing way possible. And he deserves it.
Iran just gave Obama the middle finger in the most public and embarassing way possible. And he deserves it.
Hell, at this point who hasn't. It's the in thing to do.
Obummer doesn't care. He's busy.
The most important thing on his mind right now, is Baltimore.
The thugs and gang bangers, his supporters are finishing up the prep work on his
Presidential Library. Formerly known as CVS drug store.
It's all hollowed out and ready to filled with his accomplishments.
absolutely spot on... lot of this type of shit went on when the 1st Clinton was in the crackerhouse too, brah.
Well us cargo ship tresspassed in iranian waters . they can seize it . international rules baby ? usa never follows it .
Well us cargo ship tresspassed in iranian waters . they can seize it . international rules baby ? usa never follows it .
@Pinto: Excellent find! thanks!
thanks Pinto!!!
Congress has their war now!
And they'll blame it all on Obongo's flops.
War distraction to coincide with Economic Collapse, JADE HELM / Martial Law. The Trifecta.
And they say Brookings is centrist. It’s centrist like the Likud party.
The definition of a think tank is a partner of the Israeli Lobby.
Who Controls the Think Tanks?
Everything these idiots presuppose overlooks the remotest possibility that the Iranians might have been any way preparing or are in any way determined to defend themselves - both of which seem demonstrably false given the performance of Hezbollah.
AmeriKa and her terrorist allies Israel and Saudi Arabia will attempt to make short work of Iran and instead start WW3.
A Navy friend of mine has just been ordered to the Persian Gulf and his ship is carrying U.S. Marines.
Cherry Marines to give the goat herders some relief.
So is it an Archduke Ferdinand moment or not?
I'm smelling collusion here...
It takes a Real man to to reach down and grab the rattle snake by the tongue. BTFD! This Iranian issue, for now, is just easy pickens for the Algos. If missiles start flying and ships start sinking that would change things a bit. And kudos to Obama for his deal at any cost mentality.
William Rogers is smiling and waiting for the war to begin, so that all his prior work wasn't in vain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_C._Rogers_III
Nice Paw pose in the wiki article first division.
http://whale.to/b/devil_claw.html
http://dragonspaw.blogspot.de/2014/12/evil-medieval-rabbits.html
David Slays Goliath
…36"Your servant has killed both the lion and the bear; and this uncircumcised Philistine will be like one of them, since he has taunted the armies of the living God." 37And David said, "The LORD who delivered me from the paw of the lion and from the paw of the bear, He will deliver me from the hand of this Philistine." And Saul said to David, "Go, and may the LORD be with you." 38Then Saul clothed David with his garments and put a bronze helmet on his head, and he clothed him with armor.…
Then again, who knows, everything is upside down today, and the past is to be pondered and questioned. Stange symbolism everywhere.
Speaking of which I thought it was very symbolic that someone burned down the "community center" in Baltimore last night.
Perhaps someone does not want us to unite.
Jimmy Carter moment in 3 2 1
Carter served. Have you thanked him?
So did the piece of shit John Kerry.
And George W. Bush...
Well, kinda....
yes he served as a drunk rich bitch
And Obama. No, wait. No.
Reggie thanked him for his service
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Iranian forces have seized a US cargo ship
THAT would an act of war. Maybe they don't realize that.
The first thing we need to do here is to send Congress home.
We must be at war with the Bahamas then.
If you want us to blow up some crap down there, I suppose we could work out something.
But I have friends in the Bahamas. Is there any chance we could get you to reconsider this?
The first thing we need to do here is to send Congress to camp.
There you go
FF just like with Russia.....Iran works with the West don't fall for B/S war propaganda especially after Iran helped the U.S. bomb ISIS
Iran Is Already A Western Business Partner
Yep. Just ask War Criminal Tresonist Psychopath Cheany's Halliburton.
You got banned once for your propagsnda website . Shut the fcuk up al
Never trust man in dresses.
Looks like a nothing burger. Maersk is a Danish company, and the vessel is not US flagged. It is unlikely it has any US crew members, though it is possible. A little research could tell us if there are. Also, 34 crew members? Unlikely as well. Most cargo vessels these days sail with a lot fewer sailors. It is possible the vessel is under a Military Sea Lift Command contingency contract (the US Navy pays yearly retainers to various shipping lines to re-task them at a drop of a hat) but that would seem to be the only possible relationship to the US government.
The Iranians have the right to board, and search vessels under various conditions. For instance, if the vessel is in its territorial waters, it may do so under many pretenses, despite a vessel's claim of innocent passage. It may do so after the master of the vessel agrees to boardig and inspection (which he may do to avert greater hassel - if he declines, when he enters a port friendly to Iran that government will detain it for a lengthy and money losing period of heightened safety and other inspections). If may also do so if the vessel is tought to contain illicit drugs, be engaged in human trafficing, support of terrorism, or illicit movement of WMD or arms.
After the vessel is searched, and nothing is amiss, it should be allowed to proceed. They can tie up the vessel and crew for several weeks if they want to slow roll the process and/or gigg them on lots of technicalities (dirty galley, etc). This is more likely if the master and crew were less than compliant with the demands of the boarding nation. If the report has ANY validity, and the Iranians did fire warning shots to get the vessel to comply, it is likely they will have a longer rather than brief stay in an Iranian port.
This all actually happens quite often.
The real deal, thanks. Are you a merchant marine?
No, but I have experience in this area. I have seen just now that an Iranian court had an order against this vessel. I could be that the vessel's owner owes money to someone in Iran and an Iranian court placed a lein on it. When it got in Iranian territorial waters, it then came under Iranian jusrisdiction and they seized it. They cannot do this in international or some one else's territorial waters. What will happen is that the Iranians will keep the vessel until the ower puts up a bond in the amount of the lein and the vessel will be allowed to go on its merry way. The international courts will then churn on the lein to settle the matter.
John Kerry's tongue is flicking at lightning speed
it's 10:30....obama should be at the turn by now...someone interrupt him at the next tee box....
Theres a Semen joke in there somewhere...
GIVE US BACK OUR SEMEN!!!!!!
Iran admits that it has caught a lot of US seamen.
pods
Mostly on Thursday evenings?
potus barrys male wife needs to head a campaign
bring are girls home.
this is a sad day for transgender elite cock less special operations everywhere
Obama's already working on that.
They're gonna need Alan Turing to decode all those damned question marks.
OOPS, guess it's not true. Nothing like a fake tweet to pump and dump oil!
OOPS, guess it's not true. Nothing like a fake tweet to pump and dump oil!
vietnam war, bay of tonkin anyone?
What kind of godless savage tweets only in question marks? These are truly a diabolical sort. I suggest a round of droning, then a good tomahawking, followed by boots-on-the-ground democracy, and a uhhh firm audit of their central bank.
It's a pagan language.
The same kind who trade barbarous relics for oil
Remember the Maine!
Lusitania?
How do you say "Alamo" in Farsi?
Allah-mo
Allah ta Moohla
You'd say "Alamo". ;)
However, if you want the name of the tree—alamo is Spanish for poplar—then perhaps this is what you need: ??????
Lusitania was full of ammunition
http://www.lusitania.net/munitions.htm
And the German Ambassador had taken out adverts or at least attempted to warning people that a ship carrying munitions was a potential target.
only 1 paper in iowa or some such published that advert.
Dr. Evil's father demands royalties.
Now Obama will trade nukes for the 34 sailors
Barry loves them sailors! Back when he was In The Navy....
Depends...
I think you have it wrong...Barry and Michael were in the village people. Not the navy....
They did rock navy uniforms at a couple of appearances....
;)
RIPS
Interesting, let's see how TPTB handle this "act of war".
"What difference does it make?" HRC.
Translation... http://ara.tv/252aq
Iran 1 - US 0
The score is higher than that. The US and Iran have been playing this game since the 1950's.
Probably has weapons on it. US media will claim it's a setup of course, the US would NEVER traffic in weapons.
Sternly written letter from the Kenyan incoming!
Probably rescuing them from the NWO.
They want to test their new S-300 missiles from Russia?
As if we need more conflict in the Middle-East where many millions have died in the last couple of decades
Study by Physicians for Social Responsibility: US Wars against Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan have Killed 1.3 Million – Conservative Estimatehttp://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/03/study-physicians-social-responsib...
US Sponsored Genocide Against Iraq 1990-2012. Killed 3.3 Million, Including 750,000 Childrenhttp://www.globalresearch.ca/us-sponsored-genocide-against-iraq-1990-201...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxCSJ3VZgyY
I smell a Black flag operation.
Me too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsMR_eH7KQ4
How long before the freedumb bombs start dropping? We need to liberate these people.
How fucked up is it that everything is announce on Twitter? I fully expect a tweet to come out some day from the white house saying: Stick your head between your legs because we just launche a nuclear strike against________________ (insert country here).
"Stick your head between your legs because we just launche a nuclear strike against__BALTIMORE__."
He'd rather go to war on US soil than in the ME.
No, Baltimore is his divisive handi-work. He would target some place productive, and mostly white.
And where would that be, exactly? Green Bay? Minneapolis? There's not a lot of choices I can think of right now.
Doc, who needs shooting wars when we have Twitter wars? And if you don't like what was tweeted, you can just say your account was hacked.
They should offer Baltimore in exchange for the ship and Americans.
fixed it: offer D.C., the Fed, Wall St, Frisco, and all marxists & illegal immigrants
Israel dressed as Iranians 'seized' .....
Netanyahooo... is so fucking crazy mental he will try anything...and I mean anything, no matter how bizarre, the guys is almost certifialble pyschopath.
Who needs Bibi around to do crazy shit when we got Obozo? He is crazier than a bag of rats in a burning meth lab.
Well, according to the Wayne Madsen Report, they do belong to the same "club."
Or maybe it would be more correct to say they frequent the same clubs.
It wouldn't be the first time they did that. http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israeli-mossad-agents-pose...
Let's never forget just what kind of "friends" these assholes really are.
Algos don't like the threat of war. e-minis took a dive. Guess they'll all have to be re-programmed.
Don't know why but the first thing that comes to mind is Vietnam/Gulf of Tonkin.
You're right.
And you also have to wonder if that tinder that they threw the match on yesterday in Baltimore was a diversion.
seems reasonable - Israel nukes: for Iran & Pakastan nukes plus 34 sailors plus ??
"have seized a US cargo ship, which has some 34 American sailors"
Wow, a real "flagged" US cargo ship with "American" sailors--I didn't know they existed--just wow, Go USA, you're back in the shipping business!
The only ships in the Persian Gulf with american sailors on board, are american warships.
my life already
how many more times
has king bibi bean tellin goy mooks
about the iranian,russian north corean menaces.
seal team 6 must bee releasesed sorry
seal team 7 must be release along with the mossad mi6 advisors.
this ship was simple giving hero of hebrew histries isis leader al bagdadi shimon elliot a muslim funneral as per talmoodick tora laws
how dare iran diss rupt such a sacred saturn moments
Shit meet fan
If the sailors have been taken off the ship, we should bomb the hell out the ship just to keep everyone guessing
Does anyone know where Dick Cheney is?
Not where he belongs, in Guantanamo.
In Hell, hopefully.
Well, they were in Iranian territorial waters trying to start shit I fucking assume.
we are in the game of using covert means against the iranians we could get nastier.
washington institute
Israel Lobbyist - We Need a False Flag to Start War with Iran!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfoaLbbAix0
murderer from the beginning.
That is how they think: War is a means to an end for plunder and land.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
Israel must have iranians bound and gagged on the ship with home made Iran uniforms on... yankee will board and shoot all... then take rope off and duct tape off their mouths...
It would be interesting to know the real story on this.
Is the ship a CIA spy ship?
Was this done with the cooperation of O'Bumbdumb and Jalerie Ferret?
Is it some kind of agreed upon false flag?
Is it just a lie and no ship was taken and may not have ever existed?
Things are not typically as they seem.
*never* as they seem or reported, that is
If there's one truth I've learned in life, it's that when it comes to government, we will never get the real story.
"They lie about everything. Why would they lie about this?"
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ussliberty.html
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
If the story is valid,,, Wonder what that ussa cargo ship was transporting. Probably not food and medical supplies for the poor in Yemen.
Obama says he'll monitor this situation with laser focus. Oh...okay then. He added he just read the morning papers and found out about the problems in Baltimore...just like everyone else did.
yep, and now its off to golf.
I smell bullshit. Iran has survived this dance for 35 years by not doing these sorts of provocations. Why would they do it now when they are nearing some sort of agreement to end sanctions and get back into the markets.
especially when there is a weak US president
Jimmy=Barry
Don't see no Reagan around.
Barry has continued bombing, invading, and throwing countries into chaos while regularly assassinating more civilians than Ron or Jimmy ever thought about doing. But those were different times. The Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama era is the time of "open and proud" criminal conduct on the part of the leaders. The old leaders were at least ashamed enough to try to hide their criminal behavior.
If the USA had not spent decades murdering elected leaders, supporting terrorists on the one hand and bombing them on the other in that region of the world, things like this would not have happened (no one could know for sure). Maybe the USA would be buying Iranian oil...
Could it be any worse? Well, President Obama might incinerate a hundred thousand Iranians with a nuke to seal his legacy as a strong leader.
Some enormous show of military force with troop surges, snipers, rockets and aerial attacks would distract Americans from the riots in their cities. A win for the Obama Administration. Both the neo-cons and the war-progressives would cheer him on and at the same time support any means to suppress the restless folks here at home.
Thats the problem with cunts like you who think reagan was republicunt messiah . Cargo ship entered in iran territorial waters fucker they will seize it . Problem hasbara cunt ?
This supposed incident aside, and what can be believed anymore now a days, Iran is not nearing some kind of REAL agreement. The so-called agreement is being manufactured so as to make it appear that CIA-Obama is anti-Israel.
They are laying the groundwork for some new "Dancing Mossad" false-flag that will bolster the "hearts and minds" of their neo-con evangelical Christian support base in the "red states." In other words: It's a pychop.
Going to be nasty whatever they're up to.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
Is Tom Hanks ready for another movie....this could be a good one.....
The Jews wil not be pleased, or wait, if it causes the US to attack Iran for Eretz Israel they will be very happy. Yay! Jews win again!