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NSA Whistleblower: “We Are No Longer Afraid Of The Police State Happening. It's Here”

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First Bill Binney – the high-level NSA executive who created the agency’s mass surveillance program for digital information, the 32-year NSA veteran widely who was the senior technical director within the agency and managed thousands of NSA employees – told us that America has already become a police state.

Then Thomas Drake – one of the top NSA executives, and Senior Change Leader within the NSA – told us the same thing.

Now Kirk Wiebe – a 32-year NSA veteran who received the Director CIA’s Meritorious Unit Award and the NSA’s Meritorious Civilian Service Award – agrees:

#Wiebe: we are no longer afraid of the police state happening. It's here. In small ways and big ways.

It’s not just NSA officials …  Two former U.S. Supreme Court Justices have warned that America is sliding into tyranny.   A former U.S. President, and many other high-level American officials agree.

 

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Thu, 04/30/2015 - 10:58 | 6046894 windcatcher
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“Power, Money, Control” quote from Mr. Binney

Thu, 04/30/2015 - 00:14 | 6045827 Salsipuedes
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Too late fuckers! You're all going to hell for stupidity and accepting those big fat pensions! When did you finally fall off the turnip truck? When you were sixty-five? 

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 23:57 | 6045815 Shitgum Suicide
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Still going!

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 19:50 | 6044998 Macon Richardson
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This was also Plato's position. It was the 51 idiots who killed Socrates.

Thu, 04/30/2015 - 04:36 | 6046096 GuusjA
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Bas Blokker: "Vergeet 'bed, bad en brood'!"

 

http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2015/04/30/live-tweede-kamer-praat-over-omstred...

 

Het onderzoek naar de 3e SpinozaGolf zou vrijdag zijn afgerond, maar conclusies daarvan komen niet naar buiten omdat 'de integriteit van de macht' moet worden beschermd!?!?!

 

Netwerk @0ranjePapegaaY gaat testen of netwerk @MinPres inderdaad plannen heeft om het systeem 'Leven en Laten Leven' in te voeren. Dus heeft de burgemeester van Utrecht aan de gemeenteraad laten weten het 'recht op uniciteit' te gebruiken om eigen beleid te maken met betrekking tot 'bed, bad & brood'.

 

http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2015/04/29/utrecht-blijft-illegalen-opvangen-ee...

 

In de optiek van de 'Logica van de 1' is de gehele procedure om te bekijken of wereldburgers 'illegaal' of 'legaal'zijn natuurlijk een vorm van discriminatie. Dit weten Rutte & Samsom natuurlijk zelf ook, maar zolang de VN niet 'recht spreekt' volgens de 'Logica van de 1' komen deze heren overal mee weg. Immers de (grond)wetten van de huidige rechtstaat moet het systeem 'Liegen om te Leven' in stand houden.

 

http://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/burgemeesters-geef-ons-ruimte-in-bed...

 

In het debat van vandaag kunnen premier Rutte en vicepremier Asscher de onwetenden van de 3e SpinozaGolf weer wat wijsheid bijbrengen over 'wat te doen'. Burgemeesters en vreemdelingenhelpers pleitten gisteren, tijdens een hoorzitting in de Tweede Kamer, unaniem voor een langere duur van de opvang. Dit is misschien 'de inzet van de burgemeesters voor het akkoord dat de coalitie met hen wil sluiten', maar in de optiek van netwerk WitteGejT is dit het signaal om ...

Thu, 04/30/2015 - 05:40 | 6046119 GuusjA
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Het gerucht gaat dat MountainRob is opgepakt om verslag te doen van zijn voorkennis over de 3e SpinozaGolf.

 

http://www.ftm.nl/non-profit-organisaties-doorlichten-citizenaudit/#comm...

 

Voor het personeel in hotel GradjA is de surrealistische vertoning in de Tweede Kamer niets anders dan een Parodie op 'de grot van Plato waar politici hun schaduw niet meer (h)erkennen'!

 

http://www.mintpressnews.com/freddie-gray-was-the-last-straw-baltimores-...

 

Nadat de 3e SpinozaGolf heeft toegeslagen in het Midden Oosten is nu de VS aan de beurt. In New York werden al zeker 60 mensen aangehouden, omdat ze niet meer slaafs het systeem 'Liegen om te Leven' willen dienen.

 

http://www.volkskrant.nl/buitenland/ook-protesten-in-new-york-boston-en-...

 

Thu, 04/30/2015 - 06:40 | 6046170 GuusjA
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De truc: "In de bankierseed staat dat ik het klantbelang centraal moet stellen. Lekker dan, als ik net een krediet aan het opzeggen ben." 

 

http://www.ftm.nl/exclusive/bankierseed-een-stok-om-mee-te-slaan/

 

K2: "Rutte is niet meer de premier, maar de speelbal van VredeVrijheidDirect-beweging!" 

 

http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2015/04/30/adviesorgaan-kraakt-nieuwe-terrorism...

 

Voor een snelle ParadigmaCHANGE naar het systeem 'Leven en Laten Leven' maakt netwerk @MinPres gebruik van het feit dat de meerderheid van de Tweede Kamer niet officieel is ingewijd in de fundamenten van de 'Logica van de 1'. Op die manier kan het College voor de Rechten van de Mens betogen dat 'de wetsvoorstellen in het kader van het Actieprogramma Integrale Aanpak Jihadisme' niet in lijn is met het AANDACHT=LIEFDE-paradigma die het ministerie van 'waarheidsvinding en verzoening' wil gaan uitrollen.

 

http://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/studenten-bezetten-opnieuw-uva-pand~...

 

Studenten die de VredeVrijheidDirect-beweging steunen hebben weer een pand van de Universiteit van Amsterdam (UvA) bezet, zodat de 'bronbescherming' met betrekking tot de 3e SpinozaGolf is gewaarbord. Het is namelijk niet toevallig dat 'het Service en Informatiecentrum aan de Binnengasthuisstraat in Amsterdam' gebruikt wordt om de @RaadvanState te ontlasten.

 

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 19:31 | 6044926 bonmot
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Remember Communism? It's actually quite clear that people traded in the old elite for a new elite,based on 2 promises. That the commies were better managers of resources and would play nicer dividing up the goodies.

Considering methods employed and managerial nostrums contrary to common human experience, you would think that would be a tough sell.

People actually did know better. Given unlimited time and sodium thiopentol it could be proven that few were REALLY fooled.

But hey, don't you see? People had a chance to be part of something big and important. Something that promised to change the world for they better. Something big and powerful and immortal. Something that would protect them.

And people are junkies. So all the blood and tears and bs didn't matter.

Now at ZeroHedge it's all drama all the time. Plot points and twists, hero's and villains. It's not that there aren't plot points and twists and heroes and villains it's that it's about obscuring the simplicity of the weak, pathetic, malleable beings humans really are. Obscuring the organized vs unorganized, the pushers and their junkies.

There's an interesting movie called THE Unforgiven(preminger not eastwood). On the surface it's about a plucky pioneer family overcoming adversity. The style and POV support that. But then there's a reality problem. This family thinks the way they think and want what they want. And if you think or want differently you could be in a heap o' trouble. Dead trouble. It's not like they can't have feelings and good intentions, they do.

The likely effects of all the ZeroHedge drama is mostly opposite.

Thu, 04/30/2015 - 03:31 | 6046065 dreadnaught
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and those in power point to those scary Russians to distract us, while they pick our pockets clean, steal our guns and our liberty

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 18:28 | 6044648 goneYonder
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What we're seeing now is nothing new, just the next step in a long process over generations. The people beg for it.

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 18:26 | 6044638 Reaper
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The greatest error is to trust anything the policing agents report. The police State provides information on individuals and groups. Information is not truth. We have the FBI lying for 30 years with hair evidence. http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/fbi-overstated-forensic-hair-m...

Reject the police State and its information. as its M.O. is the same as Stalin's Show trials, where the State's lies to convict true believers of the State. http://www.johndclare.net/Rempel_Stalin13.htm

The greatest value of police State obtained information is to discredit the State's enemies. The error of the sheeple is to trust information provided by the State, or its media, or its police agencies or its bureaucrats.

"Everything the State, or its police, or its bureaucrat hacks say is a lie. ~ Nietzsche expanded.

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 17:00 | 6044247 medium giraffe
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Yeah. I couldn't help but notice either.

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 18:47 | 6044557 Ham-bone
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I don't typically espouse political topics as I'm an avid political agnostic...but in writing the article at the below link, the evidence of the current administration working against the parties supporters and working for the supporters of the "other" party is really compelling.  I certainly don't advocate voting for either party but it's clear the current party in power is not interested in serving it's supposed base.

http://econimica.blogspot.com/2015/04/fed-makes-renters-pay-americas-billsand.html

How this doesn't get real ugly as the bulk of American's learn that both parties and the institutions of government in collusion with corporate interests have abused them and left nothing in the cupboard for them is anybodys guess.

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 16:24 | 6044050 sgt_doom
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They own the software [including compilers, and the technoids will understand what I mean] and they own the chips!

Good-bye, Mr. Chips! 

(Or, why that missing Malaysian Airlines MH370 is a really, really big deal --- besides the murder of 239 souls aboard.)

Onboard flight MH370 were twenty employees of Freescale Semiconductor, a major microchip producer, owner of major fabrication facilities (referred to as foundries in the industry).

Back in 2012, some researchers at an institute connected with Cambridge University discovered a backdoor, at the hardware level, in the Actel/Microsemi chip used for military purposes, designed and manufactured by the Microsemi Corporation. What the authors didn’t mention in their highly technical paper was that these chips are also to be found in ARINC avionics (ACARS: Aircraft Communications and Addressing Reporting System, formerly known as ARINC Communications and Addressing Report System --- plus other avionics communications systems), transponders and the black boxes (flight data recorders, cockpit voice recorders, crash recorders, etc.).

[Technically speaking, they are fabbed at TMC in Taiwan, which outsources to Freescale.]

Microsemi chips are produced at Freescale foundries, as well as Freescale chips are also to be found in ARINC avionics, transponders along with a wide range of other industry applications.

It is important to note that the owners of Freescale Semiconductors are the Blackstone Group, the major private equity/leveraged buyout (PE/LBO) firm, and the majority owner, and the Carlyle Group, another PE/LBO firm and a minority owner.

It is also important to note that ARINC (designer and manufacturer of major avionics systems (fly-by-wire) aboard Boeing and Airbus jets was until recently owned by the Carlyle Group, and a portion of ARINC still is, as they moved ARINC’s DoD division over to Booz Allen, the major government intelligence contractor (where Edward Snowden last worked in America), and also owned by the Carlyle Group.

Malaysian Airlines, which may have figured into it, was at that time partially owned by the hedge fund of Lord Jacob Rothschild, long an advisor to the aforementioned Blackstone Group.

The previously mentioned Microsemi Corporation, whose chips are backdoored, or compromised, is managed by James Peterson, CEO and board member. Peterson is one of the sons of Peter G. Peterson, founding member of the Blackstone Group.

Both the process of chipping (purposely introducing defects into chips for cryptographic penetration) and backdoors in chips, dates back to the late 1950s and 1960s.

When the U-2 spy plane was shot down over the Soviet Union, it contained chipped cryptographic communications gear, developed by the NSA at the instigation of the CIA, which the CIA hoped the Soviets would copy, allowing deep penetration by the NSA. Unfortunately, this was around the time of the real defection of two NSA employees (Martin and Mitchell), so after being given the coordinates of the U-2’s air route by previous “defector” Lee Oswald to allow the Soviets to shoot it down, they were now possibly savvy to the covert operation’s agenda.

The first major successful operation involving backdoored chips was supposed to have occurred in the 1980s, when an American industrial controls computer system (SCADA) was sold illegally through a Swiss firm to the Soviets, and resulted in a series of major explosions at their northern Baltic Sea naval installation (chips set to control maximum temperatures of fuels did the opposite).

When a group is seeking to compromise, and therefore control, both the Internet and a wide spectrum of computer hardware applications (communications, transportation, industrial, financial, etc.) the process of chip access is crucial, and to do that covertly it must be done at the chip fabrication point.

Hence the use of, and subsequent disposal (murder), of those Freescale Semiconductor engineers aboard flight MH370.

Below is the Youtube link to a video from a SAIConference (SAIC, is one of the two government intelligence contractors, the other being Booz Allen), the expert from University College London (who spent years with the GCHQ), explains in general how to hack into a Boeing 777, but then ends with his opinion that it wasn’t hacked into --- unfortunately, he refrains from mentioning who the systems are designed and manufactured by, and also their ownership!

And by the way, just how many Microsemi FPGAs are onboard the Boeing 777’s systems?

1,000!

Very crucial data . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVWc9P4EiME

Suggested reading:

https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sps32/Silicon_scan_draft.pdf

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 21:21 | 6045299 Vendetta
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Freescale used to be Motorola.  There are cheaper and easier ways to dispose of engineers if their knowledge was so 'dangerous' and that was the case in this 'globalized' economy.  Bringing an aircraft down with a world spotlight on it all is a rather ridiculous means.... the usual means of disposal is outsourcing of jobs ... just as devastating and no one in positions of power gives a damn.

Thu, 04/30/2015 - 14:12 | 6047610 sgt_doom
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I do not pretend to know all the facts, just that which can be uncovered and surmised.

But given the chance to remove any future incriminating parties, plus doing an experimental run on the potential and capabilities of that which they created, it stands as a logical probability. 

And those Chinese engineers worked in China, douchey!

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 20:38 | 6045153 PleasedToMeatYou
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"...from a SAIConference (SAIC, is one of the two government intelligence contractors..,"

BTW, Science Applications International Corp. seems have nothing to do with this Science and Information (SAI) Conference.  The abbreviations are a coincidence. 

Thu, 04/30/2015 - 14:10 | 6047600 sgt_doom
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Whoopsy!  You are correct and I am mistaken on that one item, I was incorrectly assuming since the dood had worked for GCHQ in the past, it was an SAIC sponsored event.

I stand by everything else, though, which was crucially important.

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 18:11 | 6044559 GeezerGeek
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Considering that integrated circuits - which is what I assume you referred to when you said 'chips' - contained, at best, a handful of transistors and other elements in the early sixties, and that consumer products with large-scale integrated circuits only started to appear somewhere around 1970, I need to see a credible citaiton of your statement that backdoors in chips date back to the late 1950s. Can you provide any links to such?

As for commercial microprocessors (a highly developed form of IC), the devices that control modern consumer elctroniics, Intel invented the first one in 1971. It had only existed as a company for about three years at that time. I doubt seriously that there were chips (other than potato?) capable of hosting 'back doors' and capable of being hacked back around 1960. I'd love to see information to the contrary.

Thu, 04/30/2015 - 14:07 | 6047587 sgt_doom
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Commenter stated:

I need to see a credible citaiton of your statement that backdoors in chips date back to the late 1950s.

Go back and read the comment, dood, nowhere did I state they had backdoors in the 1950s, I stated that the NSA crypto comm gear was chipped, i.e., had defects added to its minimal chip component, which NSA began using in the late 1950s.

Reading the comment is always Step One, dood!

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 19:02 | 6044810 Model T
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The U-Tube reference is rubbish. This post is rubbish; as you say there were no "back doors" in chips in the '50's or 60's; it's just typical ignorant internet babbling. And no, there aren't any 1000 FreeScale chips on a 777; it's all nonsense. a back-door into a chip doesn't get you anything in a complex mechanical system like a fly by wire Aircraft.

Thu, 04/30/2015 - 14:16 | 6047621 sgt_doom
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Read the frigging comment, douchey!  (ModelT)

I said it was chipped in the 1950s, and the first backdoor to my knowledge appeared in the 1980s!

Geez, literarcy and the reading is fundamental campaign sure passed you by, sonny!

I stated that there are 1,000 FPGAs from Microsemi, douchetard!

What is it about reading that completely eludes you, idiot!

You can look it up at the Microsemi Corporate web site, halfwit.

Just because you can sign onto the Web, doesn't indicate you can program, nor are you one of the original people who created the protocols which allow it to be so.

You are a Class-A moron.

First, learn to fucking read.

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 17:26 | 6044327 PleasedToMeatYou
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Extraordinarily valuable contribution, Sargent. 

Thank you very much!

BTW ZH'ers, the "suggested reading" is a must.  At least check out the abstract.  If you are not sophisticated in regards to computing hardware and microchip fabrication, it will still make chilling sense to you.  Virtually nothing operates without microchips these days.  Cars, Planes, Trains, dams, the systems that put the requested amount of chlorine and fluoride in municipal water,...

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 19:03 | 6044816 Model T
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cancel your deep breathing and excitement; it's all rubbish. Try to remember, you're a technical illiterate; you don't know anything.

Thu, 04/30/2015 - 14:18 | 6047629 sgt_doom
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You made a number of errors in addressing my comment, kindly learn how to fucking read or STFU!

Thu, 04/30/2015 - 14:17 | 6047625 sgt_doom
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You made numerous errors in attacking my comment, indicating a complete lack of basic reading ability on your part.

Kindly STFU or learn how to read!

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 16:21 | 6044046 Totin
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Twitter, Facebook, Google and cell phones give the government and opportunity to spy. To some extent all of the cameras peering at us do as well. But you don't see people deleting Twitter, Facebook, and Google accounts so tyranny doesn't feel bad (yet). Eventually some savvy person will come up with a secure cell phone. I think it's not so much tyranny as it is just the way society has evolved - it's not just the U.S. - it's basically anywhere you go.

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 16:27 | 6044068 sgt_doom
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Would highly recommend reading the following 2 books:

They Know Everything About You

   by Robert Scheer

 

Data and Goliath

   by Bruce Schneier

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 15:21 | 6043792 Richie Cunningham
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Unfortunately, the only good politician is an ex (and in some cases dead)-politician. And I mean for that to be taken at it's face value.

We rely entirely on ex-politicans, judges, diplomants, agents etc.. for truth because the currently employed ones who offer it are removed from their positions, defamed, abandoned, ridiculed by friends, peers.. or they just disappear. 

 

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 15:50 | 6043905 Pancho de Villa
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Bullshit! There was a Congressman that spent his Entire Decades Long Career, (minus the previous career delivering babies and a stint as Flight Surgeon during Vietnam), warning and crusading against exactly what they are now still doing! Nobody wanted to hear it... The entire time he was, "defamed, abandoned, ridiculed by friends, peers...", etc. 

 

He is Still Campaigning for Liberty! He won't "disappear" until he dies!  VIVA RON PAUL!!!

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 16:39 | 6044135 Richie Cunningham
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Allright! Replace "Unfortunately.." with: "With one, possibly 2...but no more than about 5 exceptions..".

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 16:29 | 6044077 sgt_doom
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Oh, BULLCRAP!

Paul has introduced so much anti-worker legislation since he's been in congress.

Cut the crapola!

Now greatest populist Texas ever produced was Wright Patman.

Now that was a real congressional rock superstar!

Also, Defazio is doing a decent job, and Sen. Dorgan certainly tried to.

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 21:21 | 6045302 bluskyes
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There ought not be any groups recognized by governments, only individuals.

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 18:17 | 6044602 GeezerGeek
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Did you just get a little off topic (police state stuff) by pointing out that Paul had introduced "anti-worker legislation"? Did he propose to have workers monitored by the USSA, and I missed it? Or are you just pointing out you don't like him?

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 16:04 | 6043962 silverer
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If 49 people are incredibly right, correct, and honest and good, with brilliant solutions, they will lose out to the 51 people who are criminal, wrong, and just plain stupid.  There.  I've just defined contemporary democracy.

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 21:28 | 6045328 Vendetta
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if 3 people are incredibly wrong, dishonest, corrupt and ill willed towards others but have much more money than the other 97 people ... they will win out.  There, I just defined the current system.

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 17:34 | 6044062 weburke
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Wed, 04/29/2015 - 14:13 | 6043500 PoasterToaster
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Maybe some of these 32 year veterans who have suddenly grown a conscience should have done something to stop it before they started collecting retirement and nattering on uselessly about how terrible things are.

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 18:23 | 6044625 GeezerGeek
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Not knowing exactly what all they said, or how they said it, I'll suggest that while they may have been exhibiting a conscience, it isn't necessarily so. I've seen various DC reptiles who would gloat when then pointed this fact out to the sheeple, with an unspoken "and there's nothing you can do about it" in his thoughts.

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 14:21 | 6043547 George Washington
Wed, 04/29/2015 - 17:34 | 6044375 weburke
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Wed, 04/29/2015 - 14:13 | 6043495 q99x2
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How'd you like to live in a nation run by Rumsfeld, Bush, Clinton, Cheney and Bandar? You would think somebody soon will do something about it no? 

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 16:36 | 6044113 sgt_doom
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Excellent and cogent points, Good Citizen.

Here's the problem today in Amerika:  back in the old Soviet Union, the vast majority knew they were being lied to on a daily basis.

In Amerika, too many people still don't understand they are being lied to on a daily basis.

Everyday, on some bullcrap news station, Foxtard, CNN, CBS, PBS, NPR, etc., etc., a so-called expert from so so-called think tank (Heritage Foundation, Brookings Institution, Cato Institute, American Enterprise Institute, Peterson Institute, ad infinitum, ad nauseum) is preaching the news during some so-called interview.

No sometime go and take a deep look at the personnel at all these think tanks (or Yale University's Jackson Institute, etc.) and you will see some really nefarious people:  like former members of Pinochet's government in Chile, and former SAVAK people from Iran, and former death squad operators from Guatemala, or particularly corrupt (as in lackeys of Wall Street) former Mexican politicians, etc. 

They help the American government in the overthrow of their own democracies, and later, when forced to leave those countries or simply wishing to, they are given preferential immigration treatment to enter the USA and immediately hired by one of those so-called think tanks!

So these are the psychos involved with the manufacture of our so-called news!!!!

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 15:47 | 6043888 BoPeople
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This is already Satan's world (the Bible tells us so). They are only his minions.

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 13:51 | 6043401 d4pwnage
Wed, 04/29/2015 - 14:29 | 6043587 SeanJKerrigan
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A favorite. One of the saddest and truest thing's I've read. A key excerpt: http://www.vulgartrader.com/post/59394079553/they-thought-they-were-free

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 18:02 | 6044522 messystateofaffairs
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Boiling frog.

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 13:49 | 6043397 Weaponized Innocense
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Been that way a long time as lover pâténted and Kiki and co would have it no other way....
Wait till everyone has seen what I have over the last several decades... Heading for 30 years now!

Wed, 04/29/2015 - 13:39 | 6043370 chunga
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What went on in Baltimore last night was pretty much a military parade.

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