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6 Baltimore Cops Charged After MD Attorney Finds Them "Grossly Negligent...Freddie Gray's Death Was A Homicide" - Live Feed
It appears the situation in Baltimore just got a lot more serious as MD State Attorney Marilyn Mosby states:
- *CHARGES FILED AGAINST 6 BALTIMORE PD POLICE OFFICERS
- *MARYLAND ATTNY: "WE HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE TO FILE CRIMINAL CHG"
- *MARYLAND ATTNY: "GRAY'S DEATH WAS A HOMICIDE''
Furthermore:
- *MARYLAND ATTNY: GRAY INDICATED HE COULDN'T BREATHE WHEN CUFFED
- *MARYLAND ATTNY: GRAY HAD LAWFULLY POSSESSED KNIFE
- *BALTIMORE CITY STATE'S ATTORNEY MARILYN MOSBY SPEAKS W/PRESS
- *MARYLAND ATTNY: POLICE FAILED TO ESTABLISH PROBABLE CAUSE
- *MARYLAND ATTNY: GRAY ILLEGALLY ARRESTED
- *GRAY WASN'T SEAT BELTED WHEN PLACED IN POLICE WAGON
- *MARYLAND ATTNY: GRAY HAD FLEX CUFFS PUT ON, NO SEAT BELT
- *GRAY SUFFERED NECK INJURY AS A RESULT OF BEING UNRESTRAINED
- *MD ATTNY: POLICE DIDN'T RENDER, REQUEST MEDICAL ATTN. FOR GRAY
- *MD ATTNY: POLICE GROSSLY NEGLIGENT WHEN MAKING OTHER STOP
- *MD ATTNY: GRAY UNRESPONSIVE ON FLOOR; MEDICAL HELP NOT PROVIDED
- *MD ATTNY: 2ND DEGREE MANSLAUGHTER CHARGES, OTHERS, FILED
- *MD ATTNY MOSBY APPEALS FOR PEACE
Mosby's announcement on the steps of the War Memorial Building was greeted with cheers and applause. She said she told Gray's family that "no one is above the law," and so as The Baltimore Sun details, the six Baltimore police officers involved in the arrest of Freddie Gray – who died last month after being injured in police custody – have been charged criminally, State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby announced Friday.
Officer Caesar Goodson Jr., 45, who was the driver of a police van that carried Gray through the streets of Baltimore, was charged with second-degree murder, manslaughter, second-degree assault, two vehicular manslaughter charges and misconduct in office.
Officer William Porter, 25, was charged with involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault and misconduct in office.
Lt. Brian Rice, 41, was charged with involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault and misconduct in office.
Sgt. Alicia White, 30, was charged with involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault and misconduct in office.
Officer Edward Nero, 29, was charged with second-degree assault and misconduct in office.
Officer Garrett Miller, 26, was charged with second-degree assault, misconduct in office and false imprisonment.
Warrants were issued for the arrest of all six officers. It wasn't immediately clear where the officers were on Friday morning.
Mosby said Gray was improperly arrested on April 12 because officers had no probable cause to detain him.
In a detailed recounting of the events, Mosby described Gray being repeatedly denied medical attention by police officers, even as he asked for medical help and later was unresponsive in a police van.
Gray suffered a "severe and critical neck injury" as a result of being handcuffed, shackled and being unrestrained in the van.
Mosby said an investigation found officers bound Gray's wrists and ankles and left him stomach-down on the floor of a police van as they drove around West Baltimore. Despite his repeated requests for medical attention, they did not provide it and continued to drive without securing him in the van, she said.
Officers on at least five occasions placed Gray in the van or checked on him and failed to secure him, she said. By the time they reached the Western District police station, he was not breathing and in cardiac arrest, she said.
Mosby said her office did a "comprehensive, thorough and independent" investigation that began April 13, the day after Gray was injured.
"My team worked around the clock, 12- and 14-hour days," she said.
Mosby called on the public to remain calm.
"I heard your call for 'no justice, no peace,'" she said. "Your peace is sincerely needed as I work to deliver justice on behalf of this young man."
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The Statement:
Here is a full list of charges, as released by the Office of the State's Attorney for Baltimore City.
Officer Garrett E. Miller
- Assault/second degree (10 yrs.)
- Assault/second degree (10 yrs,)
- Misconduct in office (8th Amendment*)
- Misconduct in office (8th Amendment* )
- False imprisonment (8th Amendment* )
Sgt. Alicia D. White
- Manslaughter (involuntary) (10 yrs.)
- Assault/second degree (10 yrs.)
- Misconduct in office (8th Amendment*)
Officer Caesar R. Goodson Jr.
- Second degree depraved heart murder (30 yrs.)
- Manslaughter (involuntary) (10 yrs.)
- Assault/second degree (10 yrs.)
- Manslaughter by vehicle (gross negligence) (10 yrs.)
- Manslaughter by vehicle (criminal negligence) (3 yrs.)
- Misconduct in office (8th Amendment* )
Officer William G. Porter
- Manslaughter (involuntary) (10 yrs.)
- Assault/second degree (10 yrs.)
- Misconduct in office (8th Amendment*)
Lt. Brian W. Rice
- Manslaughter (involuntary) (10 yrs.)
- Assault/second degree (10 yrs.)
- Assault/second degree (10 yrs.)
- Misconduct in office (8th Amendment*)
- Misconduct in office (8th Amendment*)
- False imprisonment (8th Amendment*)
Officer Edward M. Nero
- Assault/second degree (10 yrs.)
- Assault/second degree (10 yrs.)
- Misconduct in office (8th Amendment*)
- Misconduct in office (8th Amendment* )
- False imprisonment (8th Amendment*)
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"Because anytime in history when the Praetorians get snubbed, fucking hilarity ensues. By which I mean internecine violence."
Bingo! At some point the dumb goons who are paid to carry the weapons finally figure out that those weapons can be used against the bastards who give the orders. Everything goes higgledy-piggledy for a while, and then you have a new crop of bastards giving the orders, bastards who just happen to be stupid, brutish goons. Same as it ever was or ever will be, I'm afraid.
My wife was in ER nurse in the Bronx for many years and has seen many criminals taken down by cops. it is very easy to break a vertebrae with enough pressure but when the criminal is flailing and fighting back it just makes the officers become more forceful especially with peer pressure of other officers standing by and making fun of that officer for not putting the man down. I do not know what happened but I can assure you that Freddy Gray was flailing and fighting back causing the officers to use heavy force; this was no homicide. That being said the militarization and extreme force that police use nowadays will add to the rising numbers of deaths from police custody.
Did you miss the bit where the arrest was unconstitutional? Freddy Gray was within his rights to straight up kill those cops in self defence.
What a shame he didn't.
I did not reference the arrest. I referenced pressure upon a person's vertebrae and it breaking and the fact that the term homicide is incorrect. I would imagine manslaughter is as close as you could get but good try though.
You said, and I quote, "Gray was flailing around causing officers to apply force". Perhaps I simply misunderstood your point, but it sure seems like you're legitimising their use of force because of his flailing.
He was in custody at this time. How he got into custody is surely questionable. I had friends pulled over, car searched and mentally fucked with in Indiana on Saturday. Nothing they could do. I am not excusing the cops. I'm providing some info on vertebrae breaking and cop force from my wife. Nobody knows what happened. It's all hearsay. He was no boyscout. The cops, however, are becoming brutes who treat us all like criminals.
I forgot that your constitutionall protected right to defend yourself from an attacker ends when they have you "in custody".
We should remember to tell that to kids and girls who are abducted/raped. Once you've been caught you're supposed to stop resisting your attacker.
Indiana is the state I respect the most because they passed a law that specifically allows a person to defend themselves with lethal force against violent illegal police actions. Did your friend consent to the search? If so you need to educate them and practice refusing consent.
She was with girlfriends and her son. She just wanted to get going on her way and had nothing to hide, but after a thorough search with nothing found they still treated her like a POS. No apology no nothing just "fuck you deal with it." I understand they are searching for illegal things, but basically forcing a search by walking the dog around their car, the dog farted or grunted or something and the cop freaked saying "we got a hit!!!" Horseshit. They had nothing. They wanna search, the average person will feel forced into it. They will do what they want. The 4th Amendment is dead.
Oh no no no, according to the waterhead, that cop should have been killed.
Seems like most S.W.A.T. raids are also..
Spend time in other country's.
when the kidnappers come.. they are dressed as policia or military.
So what do you do.. give them your kids,put a gun to your own head and shoot yourself of kill every motherf**ker that comes through the door.
you may have guessed my answer I am still typing.
America is funny... biggest joke is money laundering and asset-forfeiture without any kind of trial.... how screwed up it that.. if I do it you call a thief.
It's kind of a gun control issue.
and get I think killing is wrong..
Kill a cop whenever they fuck up? Lol. Sure. Assuming you have a job, and assuming that negligence on your part can get people killed, and lets say that happens, should you be put to death? Silly. Done venting?
So they murdered him because he resisted?
I'd agree with that...
the inability to breathe might cause one to flail a bit.
see a short hanging if you need an example.
natural reaction.
Thugs fighting thugs. I wouldn't want any of them around my daughters.
So does everyone riot now BECAUSE the cops are being charged with murder? Or is it all peaceful now with the presumption that justice will be served?
Where is (former) Mayor Ray (Chocolate City) Nagin when Baltimore needs him...?
He's in the Graybar Hotel.
These cops can't be Jews, have to be goyim.
Do the cops look like obamas son, if he wasnt a flaming faggot?
Regardless that excessive force was applied in brutal and sadistic manner, there is no certainty that these ploicemen will even be brought to trial, and much less convicted of anything.
Once upon a time, prosecutors welcomed the opportunity to go to trial. Lately it seems that they are especially reluctant to do so, if the perpetrators work for "the government". Furthermore, the probability of guilt used to be just marginally better than 50% for a grand jury to decide that a case should go to trial. Now 75% of the grand jurors must vote for trial proceedings. Otherwise, the charges will be dropped.
For all intents and purposes, policemen in this country can kill with impunity, and can do bodily, emotional, and psychological harm as much as they wish. . . . Unless, of course, if the person taken by police is a member of "the gated community". In such cases, civil rights, human rights, and the "presumption of innocence" is still paramount.
How will these riots and subsequent charges against various police effect the future.
While one might thin the police would now act with more care and restraint, I think the police might act to hide certain actions even more.
The police in many areas have already been militarized. They won't go back. They will only do more to hide their actions. And in terms of broader civil unrest, do you think the police have learned their lesson and won't disarm the citizens if ordered? I don't.
Electric chair is the only way those animals will learn to respect the law.
The problem is prosecutors rely on favors from the police,so they treat them with kid gloves. If prosecutors go after bad cops, they will stop getting convictions and get replaced. That is why we need special prosecutors for thugs in uniform.
http://www.infowars.com/video-cops-break-down-door-without-warrant-sick-...
See folks, it happens to Whitey too...
And yet, no white riots over these incidents. In fact, the only white riots I can think of are drunk college dweebs fueled by booze and a recent sports win/loss. Unlike the race rioters, the college dweebs will at least wake up in the morning and regret their decision to riot.
So that tells you that:
1) The abuse of power faced by the white community is rare.
2) White people are less likely to face criminal abuse at the hands of police on a daily basis
3) White people are fucking stupid
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/05/us/texas-affluenza-teen/
Swing and a miss.
1) The producers in this country, whatever their race, are bled dry by an oppressive government to feed these people who refuse to work and would rather just have babies.
2) Those producers are conditioned to fear the law and as a result, go out of their way to avoid trouble with everyone, including "authority figures".
3) You are fucking stupid.
But i thought they all had machine guns and had Gadsden flags on their porchs?
The rioters of Baltimore now have their judge, a hanging judge. What good is a jury? The media will provide the jury. The media will not only convict the police, the media will convict the white population of United States. Because, after all, isn’t a police force just an extension of white middle class America?
As Frederick Engels explained: Morality is a class characteristic; and when the bourgeoisie starts exercising its morality, it is only demonstrating a protection for property. And as the black mayor of Baltimore said when she provided room for the rioters to loot and destroy, pulling back the police, “It’s only property.”
Marx and Engels would have agreed. And, furthermore, Marx would be the first to say a trial doesn’t have to be made, it’s only a struggle between classes. And in some ways he may be right. This is only a struggle between cultures, the “multicultural diversity model” being forced upon America with the cultural racist values of blacks, Hispanics, and, yes, Jews, leading the opposition against white European Christians.
In this case, the blacks and their racist champion, Obama, are taking their revenge, not against police, not against politicians, but against whites. And they are egged on not only by media but now by Jewish Google.
Yeah yeah the police are just working their way up the socioeconomic ladder, whitey. It's you and yours next.
Whitey? Looks like you've got the cultural attack down pat. I wasn't in Baltimore; I am not a policeman; I am not a judge. But, you know what? In your eyes I'm guilty...because I'm white.
If comments such as these jolt a person’s sense of justice, they need to keep in mind that no trial has been held, no evidence has been brought before a jury and yet in America the knieves and the ropes are out for the accused. For those who are happy with the Baltimore turn of events, they are happy about the disintegration of the American system of law and justice. For that matter, they are happy about the dissolution of one of the greatest nations that was ever established on the planet.
If you're not aware of the evidence that police brutalize, torture, incarcerate, and murder innocent people every day, then I'm not sure if anything will waken you to the phenomenon. And as for the "greatest nation" business, the American people have been in the genocide business since Day 1 and have hardly stopped for a year or two at a time since.
Your statement that "the American people have been in the genocide business since Day 1 and have hardly stopped for a year or two at a time since," obviously neutralizes the comments you have been making so far; all being untrustworthy. BTW, does your "genocide business since Day 1" include those racist activities of Samuel Adams, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, and John Adams?
Killing of indians, etc etc. You know it happened.
When you say the American people have been in the genocide business since Day 1 you are hanging yourself. And I don't care if you get 50 green arrows; you will not get agreement from the American people.
Killing of the Indians? The Mexican racial breakdown is officially presented as 9% white, 60% Mestizo (Indigenous-European hybrid), 30% Indigenous, and 1% other. The Mestizaje (mixture) of Indians and Spaniards is the principal fact of Mexican racial history.
Latinos are the nation’s largest minority group and among its fastest growing populations. According to the U.S. Census Bureau (2013), the Latino population in 2012 was 53 million, making up 17% of the U.S. population.1 ( Counting illegals some immigration groups say 83 million.) Latino population growth between 2000 and 2010 accounted for more than half of the nation’s population growth (Passel, Cohn and Lopez, 2011).
On December 2012, America reached a landmark point. For the first time in its modern history, the majority of the babies being born were non-white.
Cool story bro.
Holy fuck! Stop with your Nazi bullshit! You would have fit right in 1938 Germany!
You pretend to recognize a police state; so remove the blinders from your eyes. You won’t see America’s police department’s enforcing a police state; you will see instead a banker-controlled and paid-for government fast on the way to using black resentment, Third World immigration and Zionist activism (Google and the media) to create and control events leading to despotism. The real police state is being locked into place: NSA surveillance, Federal Reserve purchase and control of all key political aspects of the government and the means of production, open borders and destruction of American sovereignty. You will see the complete abandonment of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, from gun ownership to free speech and, now, with the homosexual weapon, freedom of religion.
America, with her loss of representative government, is in deep trouble. And before you defame America’s police departments, you need to recognize the real danger – a military take-over of the rest of your liberties, the true police state.
Tom Wolfe--Bonfire of the Vanities--prescient
And I thought Nazisim was dead.
Freddie Gray's family should avenge the death of Freddie.
Some of the children of these nice policemen hanging in trees may straighten a few things out.
I am surprised she didn't stand there with her hands up when she said "No justice no peace"
Headlines for all the assholes being arrested and charged with arson, robbery, inciting riots?
(crickets chirping)
OH HILDERBEEST OH HILDERBEEST
I had to double check after reading this and yup it's been confirmed: I give 0 fucks.
Now wait just a moment this Freddie person was found to have INJURED himself DELIBERATELY in the paddy wagon. His injury was consistent with the bolt on the inside of the vehicle. Another arrestee saw him trying to hurt himself and has sworn to it in a statement.
Just like the "Gentle Giant" HANDS UP DON'T SHOOT turned out to be a LIE.
Hillary Blames the Cops Thursday - April 30, 2015 By Patrick J. Buchanan
It's a puzzle why Hillary jumped in a little too early, siding with lawbreakers. One would think she has the black vote all sewed up already. But what other American can get behind her statement: The white police are guilty and the white population of America will not do anything about it until I, Hillary Clinton, am president?
It isn't a puzzle once one understands the mindset of these swine. An example is the dyke's "husband" Billy Clinton, hero of Waco:
But now we are being tested again by a new wave of immigration larger than any in a century, far more diverse than any in our history. Each year, nearly a million people come legally to America. Today, nearly one in 10 people in America was born in another country; one in 5 schoolchildren are from immigrant families. Today, largely because of immigration, there is no majority race in Hawaii or Houston or New York City. Within 5 years, there will be no majority race in our largest State, California. In a little more than 50 years, there will be no majority race in the United States.* No other nation in history has gone through demographic change of this magnitude in so short a time.
Portland State University, Portland, Oregon, June 13, 1998 William J. Clinton, President of the United States
*Spontaneous eruption by students cheering, standing on chairs, applause
Tragically all your facts and conclusions are correct, and they apply to the Baltimore events.The mystery here is why the part of the American middle class that is white does not see that these black/white events are more than racist events; they are a massive assault on the white European culture. Why do they wait to see an American system of fairness and justice for all destroyed before their very eyes?
America is taking a quantum leap into the "New World Order," into serfdom, because her people do not stand.
Yeah, let us join the KKK, right?
you know when the media won't cover white officers abusing a black man?
Guess.
http://www.liveleak.com/index.html?i=d71_1430497976
it's funny, usually Israel is all over the front page... now it isn't.
Odd - you'd think 'race riots' + 'Israel' would be guaranteed above the fold front page coverage.
It's almost as if the Times is biased, and seeks to never publicize Israel's dirty laundry.
I wonder why.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/media/meet-nyt.html
@JR
I think this is a most moderate proposal, personally I think only that whenever moderates come up against extremists, history has shown that the extremists always won. There is only one way to survive the attack of the extremists and that is to be more extreme than the extremists
Endgame
Laddie, excellent quotation from Endgame, and from an interesting and significant website as well.
The critical point to remember here is that the derailment of the American system is now coming from many quarters. But the symptoms are coming from a central point, the Fed. And Endgame mentions a few
All of these damaging campaigns stem from a single source.
When a private bank owned by a syndicate of international bankers can create the currency out of nothing, in secret, establish its value for all debts and purchases, and then decide who will get massive infusions of this currency (their friends) and who will get nothing (many of those who receive nothing, of course, are robbed of what labor and production capacities that they have built), the resulting tragedy for America is that this money is going to buy power to be used against them for the owners of the Fed and their puppets. The money buys the Congress, the political parties, the military industrial complex, the justice system, and it sets in motion illegal immigration, the welfare society, the collapse of sovereignty and a thousand forces that rob and cheat the American people.
These manufactured Fergusons and Baltimores eventually get the filtered-down Fed money to pay for their damage. It buys the media to select one police action out of the thousands and thousands of arrests made by police all over the country and not only blows it out of proportion but piles on with tons of misinformation.
The Fed money also filters all the way down to activists and infiltrators of America’s foundations and organizations from churches and think tanks to the Boy Scouts.
In short, money is the most power force in the world and the U.S. Congress has put it in the hands of self-serving internationalists – the Fed.
The twisted irony is that the old family western ruling elite are white non jews ( I hold no love at all for semites) who are responsible for shaping this macro trend of imputing miscegnation and further breaking up societal strata by overlaying racial group dynamics onto the classic socio-economic models. This started with emperor dickweed integrating that infernal semite religion christainanity into European society to codify and unify european power politics and ensure servitude to the "throne" in perpetuity.
Than flip the script down the road and bust up religion,family unit,nationality to create dependency on the global state and its new religion science/economy.
I think an individuals core identity is encoded in DNA memory and shaped by the environmental mores. So good luck fucking with that one.
Yes, we must keep those Irish scum out, out, out! What? I'm a hundred and fifty years too late? Oh...so the Irish were OK after all? Never would have known that based on the writings of the time.
you know when the media won't cover white officers abusing a black man?
Guess.
http://www.liveleak.com/index.html?i=d71_1430497976
it's funny, usually Israel is all over the front page... now it isn't.
Odd - you'd think 'race riots' + 'Israel' would be guaranteed above the fold front page coverage.
It's almost as if the Times is biased, and seeks to never publicize Israel's dirty laundry.
I wonder why.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/media/meet-nyt.html
You are cearly a stooge...for whom?
A press release has just been issued by the Rioting, Burning, and Looting Savages Association...
May 1, 2015
Oops-a-daisy.
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Philly PD call the van ride "The Nickel Ride". Hard stops.
You want someone dead or gravely injured?
Call the cops on him or her.
As one police official I heard this week say: There are thousands and thousands of arrests every day all over the United States. Sometimes they go wrong. A policeman either doesn’t do his job correctly or he violates the law. To pick those instances to convict all the police forces in the United States is a racist radical’s dream.
And when a criminal breaks your window in the night, or you are attacked by nine blacks during the blackout in San Francisco as I was, and there are no police to call, whom will you call?
The abuse of power transcends any racial overtones. We are dealing with an increasingly militarized police force that increasingly uses tactics that are illegal, inhumane, and harmful in the course of their daily duties and responsibilities to the citizens they are paid to serve and protect. We are seeing abusive and unlawful behavior at every level of common activity - to the point now where just looking at a cop might get one killed (as in the case of Mr. Gray.)
-- If a dog is behind a gated fence and is barking at a police officer, that does not give the cop the right to shoot the dog. The dog is there to protect the property.
--If a women is walking in her neighborhood and takes video in a public space, that does not give a cop the right to manhandle her and destroy her property.
--If a 5 year old is playing on a playground and appears to be holding a dark object in his little hand, a normal human being is not going to shoot to kill first and ask questions later.
--A no-knock welfare check does not give the right to officers to then shoot up a place just because they can.
--No police officer has the right to terrorize any US citizen,
When you did call them, were they able to time travel to prevent the crime? Afterwards, did they catch who did it? No? We do not need them.
All I can say is be ready for something BIG to start in the next few weeks or couple of months.
It's all going to go to total SHIT and there will be martial law.
I'm well along in getting ready and I hope you all are as well...
It is much cheaper for a city to pay off the victim's families than go to court. It is also much cheaper to pay off the cops than to pay for all the national guard, firemen, and police support needed to suppress a riot over the course of a week or more.
So, 'convict' each cop, slap them on the wrist, keep them on the payroll or let them retire on a disability, give them name changes and re-location expenses, and carry on.
It ain't the right thing to do, but it gets these idiot cops off the streets, and is better than the usual practice of letting the cops off free and clear. Even with these charges, do you really expect to see any of these cops going to jail?
If a police officer murdered your child, should that police officer be punished by being given a lifelong disability pension, which would allow him to move to a Caribbean island and spend the next 40 years sunning himself, drinking beer, and partying with the local hookers?
So Mr Gray's only crime was walking while being black.
Homeycide.
From now on, every PERP that says ouch will be taken to a hospital. - tie up more police and doctors - costs to escalate. From now on complaints will be that the seat belt is too tight on my fat belly.
To avoid conflict, just do as directed by the officers and debate it later in a safe environment.
Geez, following the slippery slope, you will next be advocating fair trials for PERPS.
The RAP sheet speaks for many of the criminals. I always supported 3 strikes legislation - stop the revolving door and stop the bitching about oppression - get up yourself or get out.
So we can thank you for making what America is today. Number one in the world in prisoner incarceration.
Do the crime...... - only problem is that prisons have become gang-run communities or summer camps. As the country deteriorates, punishment will have to be increased or gangs will run your life - see Mexico
Fast and Furious, war on drugs (CIA drug trafficking), etc. The gang in the white house is already running your life.
You wouldn't go so far as to insist that cops and prosecutors not lie, not withhold exculpatory evidence, and not use falsified DNA evidence to get convictions while the judges just smile and allow it to happen. Would you?
Whips and chains for jaywalking, torture for littering and the death penalty for smoking pot.
Yes, the biggest, most organized and well-armed gang, The State, makes the prison system what it is. Right and left wing politicians love it that way.
So you are bank stooge supporting prisons for profit? What kind of out of touch idiot are you?
Once guilty, always guilty? You would have made a good, loyal Nazi.
Ahh...the old "love it or leave it" eh? Go back to sucking bank tit...
This is the attitude that guarantees an eventual explosion. "Debate it later in a safe environment" always means the same thing; the cop who beat the shit out of you for no reason gets off scot free, and you go to jail for bleeding on his uniform. Fuck that. The police are the biggest gang of costumed thugs out there and if you don't believe that you can just look up civil asset forfeiture.
Don't forget that Mr. Gray was taken into police custody for NO REASON!! Thus, the false imprisonment charges. If you were a black man in urban America, you'd run too if the cops were staring at you!
We cannot be detained unless there is probably cause and then, there is a protocol in place on how such an action is to occur. Like telling someone why they are detained, miranda rights, etc... just picking black guys up and manhandling them into a paddy wagon for NO REASON is illegal in our country of individual rights (what little there is left.)
The crime rate is going to be going to the moon.
As long as TPTB keep making more things illegal,
The crime rate is going to be going to the moon.
FIFY
What if you can't "debate" it later as you are in hospital? You sound like a good bank stooge.
So when is she going after Obama (we tortured somefolks and drones) and George W for invading Iraq. Seeing they are both commanders in chief as well as head honchos it is about time they are charged with treason as well as human rights abuses.
Then there is Clinton re: Waco.
The last three leaders of the USA were and are criminals and should be tried accordingly.
The US constitution says all men are created equal I believe, there is no qualifier there as to social status or citizenship is there?
She only has jurisdiction in Baltimore. I think she has enough on her plate.
Who cares?
All it takes is one law enforcement entity to attempt to enforce the law, to shame the AG into doing something.
Apparently you don't understand the concept of jurisdiction!
Pick up a dictionary.
bla bla bla bla
Some of you assholes may change your tune when you find out how many of these pigs were black. The only color that matters here is blue, and if you dont stop them when they go after the poor blacks, it will be too late when they start going after the poor whites.
When they go after poor whites...
Where the fuck have you been asshole, they have been for quite a while, like you said it's just the blue.
Remember Ruby Ridge!
Pull your head out of your ass and follow your own advice dipshit.
http://www.policemisconduct.net/remember-ruby-ridge/
Waco
Waco just another Jones Town with a crazy person in charge - nothing but a persecution complex run wild.
I double dog dare you to watch WACO:Rules of Engagement and see if you still have the same opinion on the matter.
Ruby Ridge? You gotta go back twenty years and trot out your martyr? Who i might add was not killed by the local porkers who are causing all the trouble today. The fact is that the pigs are out of control and I dont give a shit what color the people they kill are, unlike many of the dipshits on this site, who scream about government overreach when its Clive Bundy or Randy Weaver, but cheer government overreach when its some poor black thug. Being a thug doesnt mean you need to die for no reason.
What Ruby Ridge demonstrates is why sub-human animals like Al Sharpton should be euthanized for the safety and general welfare of the black community in America.
When there is a unitary State and no division of sovereignty, there is no recourse for the citizenry in response to the abuse and brutality of the State.
Only a useful idiot thinks that the solution to abuses by local law enforcement is moar federalization.
Plenty more since then. Looks like the divide and conquer tactics still work great on idiots.
Not all cops are bad, I remember one sheriff who refused to follow instructions in evicting people from their homes during the last meltdown.
The problem is there are so many who think that the shield is a guarantee of 'immunity' for anything they do, like blackwater in Iraq, raping and murdering the defenseless. When the USA stooped to hiring mercenaries the country lost all my respect.
It is a shame that a few bad apples always seem to spoil it for the other 10%.
If these police officers were responsible, why the delay in pursuing them?
Or is this a case of Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.
If it is this case, then it compounds these mess.
She has all of the credentials to be the next US Attorney General. Wonder if her prosecution record is any good?
When you kill someone the 'usual' charge is murder.... yes?
EDIT: All should be charged as all were present...
With their 1st pick in the 2015 NFL Draft, the Baltimore Ravens take, Freddy Gray.
I'm tired of black men dying in police custody and I'm tired of family dogs being shot and I'm tired of no-knock swat teams accidently shooting and/or destroying property and harming innocent victims. This action (whatever the result ends up to be) is the first real step in forcing the police to rethink their culture of abuse towards the citizens they are payed to protect and serve. It is saying - that US citizens have had enough of the abuse at the hands of law enforcement and no matter what, the police are there to PROTECT all citizens - even the alleged perps. They are NOT cop, enforcer, judge, and executioner. There are just too many incidents to default into a few bad apples framework. This is, unfortunately, a systemic issue - very much like pedophilia priests. It's NOT just a few bad apples/rare occasions when there are virtually hundreds (if not thousands) of innocent victims of negligence, assault, and murder (women, children, dogs, seniors, black men, etc...) by police across the country on a yearly basis.
I'm tired of black men dying in police custody and I'm tired of family dogs being shot and I'm tired of no-knock swat teams accidently shooting and/or destroying property and harming innocent victims. This action (whatever the result ends up to be) is the first real step in forcing the police to rethink their culture of abuse towards the citizens they are payed to protect and serve. It is saying - that US citizens have had enough of the abuse at the hands of law enforcement and no matter what, the police are there to PROTECT all citizens - even the alleged perps. They are NOT cop, enforcer, judge, and executioner. There are just too many incidents to default into a few bad apples framework. This is, unfortunately, a systemic issue - very much like pedophilia priests. It's NOT just a few bad apples/rare occasions when there are virtually hundreds (if not thousands) of innocent victims of negligence, assault, and murder (women, children, dogs, seniors, black men, etc...) by police across the country on a yearly basis.
"This is, unfortunately, a systemic issue - very much like pedophilia priests."
You talking about the progressive hero Southern Poverty Law Center man-boy love advocates who push gay normalcy in elementary schools?
Grimaldus
I'm talking about two things here:
1. Institutions, that when faced with serious problems, often default to the "few bad apples" paradigm and rarely, if ever, acknowledge, let alone address systemic problems.
2. Children, like prisoners are not able to properly defend themselves and/or give informed consent. The abuse of power by authority figures - whether that of police or clergy is fundamentally the same.
The pigs are not the problem. It is the idiot sheeple who keep electing wolves to political office who are building a big police state to gain total political power…
Hence my opinion that this is a systemic issue and not merely a few bad apples problem...
The problem is the idiot sheeple who DO NOT BOTHER TO VOTE.
"idiot sheeple who keep electing wolves to political office"
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Hell, they probably produced it too.
Where did all these nazi pigs come from? Beating people to death in custody? Do they have the death penalty in MD? I hope so.......
They come from the ranks of the military who have been overseas oppressing other innocent women and children in unjust, endless, wars.
The police are pretty much unsupervised and they do what they want without fear of retribution because most juries are selected from white suburban nieghboorhoods.
Where will this jury selection take place? In a federal court? If so you will get a cross section from Baltimore.
They come from the ranks of the military who have been overseas oppressing other innocent women and children in unjust, endless, wars.
The police are pretty much unsupervised and they do what they want without fear of retribution because most juries are selected from white suburban nieghboorhoods.
Where will this jury selection take place? In a federal court? If so you will get a cross section from Baltimore.
"Bonfire of the Vanities" playing out right before your eyes Sheeple of Amerika. Why the fuck would anybody in their right mind want to be a cop in any "Blue Model" big city in this shithole of urban corruption, graft, and Libtard mindset. Let them eat cake in Baltimore while the entire city is run by the inmates.
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I think some of these charges are a little over the top. Not because I think these cops shouldn't go to "pound you in the ass" prison but, because I think a jury will have a hard time convicting on overzealous charges.
This federal prosecutor is setting the bar to high and it will be difficult for the jurist to overcome and convict.
The number goal should be to make sure none of these cops collect a dime in pension money and make sure they do some real time, 2 years at least, for a felony conviction.
It seems to me the charges make the burden of proof to onerous for the jury.
I don't want to see these cops walk because the state was over zealous and should have charged these animals with felonies with a lower burden for the jury to convict but, still serious enough to guarantee a 2 or 3 year prison term before eligibility for parole.
they always overcharge. manslaughter isn't at all unreasonable for "rough riding" someone who dies...
as with the rest of us, cops take their arrestees [and remember - this was a wrongful arrest] as you find them.
If someone has a "fragile skull" or a bad spine - and they die when most of your victims were merely scared and bruised...
fuck you, you're guilty of manslaughter, and you get to go get fucked in the ass for 10 years.
My point is:
When they do "overcharge" the cops can end up walking away because the judge will instruct the jury in such a way to give them no choice but to acquit. I think Rodney King was an example.
I have been assaulted by police more than once for little reason so I know and I consider myself lucky my skull didn't crack open like a melon when my head was thrown to the sidewalk for exercising my right to remain silent. I know what it is like to be pummeled by police, arrested for no reason, spending the weekend in lock-up, arraigned only to have charges dropped because I never broke the law. That has cost me plenty of money defending myself against trumped up charges such as assualting a police officer which is a felony and will get you you a few years in prison if found guilty. I always had witnesses to back me up and charges were always dismissed. The police are liars and will kick your ass and falsely accuse you if you don't lick their boots.
I have no love for the police and I think it is chilling that these thugs are armed and their use of excessive force is routine. Police don't contribute anything valuable to society. They do the job because they are either sadist or can't find a real job. Police spend most of their time responding to car crashes, doing the bidding of insurance companies, basically.
I recall my wife getting t-boned by a student who ran a stop sign. I asked the policeman about the report number which was 0264. It was about 10 a.m. and he said this was the 264th accident since his shift began, his shift began at 12 a.m. So 264 accidents in 10 hours, each requiring a police response to fill out a report for hundreds of accidents where no crime was committed. He was actually a very rude pos to me even though I was coming to my wife's aid since I worked near where the accident occurred.
There were, at that time in 2010, more than 1000 sworn officers in a city with a metropolitan population of 211,000 people. They spend most of their time filling out accident reports and responding to the occasional 911 call.
That blew my mind!!! 264 car crashes in a small city in 10 hours! We have to pay salary, benefits, retirement etc. so these armed thugs can fill out accident reports for the benefit of insurance companies about incidents that aren't even crimes!!!!
I began to wonder what the police actually do and I surmised they don't do anything accept fill out police reports about auto accidents, most of their time, and then spending the rest of the time looking to victimize innocent people to take their frustration caused by them being merely elevated metermaids.
THINK ABOUT IT! WHAT DO THEY DO?
Everytime there is a reccesion the first thing the administration does is allocatye money to hire 100,000 more policeman. Happened in 2008-2009 crisis. First Obama did was hire more police.
I am going to the, annual, human rights festival in our town this weekend and this will be my talking point. I hope you all think about it and question whether our public safety funds are wisely spent so insurance companies can have accidents documented? Do we need an armed, militarized police force to fill out accident reports? Let's start questioning the value we recieve as a society by having an armed, militarized police force? And what do they do for all that money we spend in tax money?
We will all have to choose which gang we will support when the shit hits the fan - the boys in blue or MS13, Crips, Bloods......
Those choices are abysmal jokes. Best join the country folk.
I'll take "False dichotomy" for $400, Alex.
It has reached the point where if I don't see it with my own eyes, I have no reason to believe it. It is a world filled with liars.
jeezus, there are more cop-worshipping FOX-news watching faggots here than I'd expect on a mostly libertarian board.
Perhaps one otr two of these cops are overcharged - but they are, some or most, going to jail, mostly because the probable cause is so strong {are you fucking people serious with your no pc bullshit, or just dumb as shit?}.
Fuck these cops - they simply think they're above the law.
They usually are - but not on this one.
Mosby is going to cut their balls off - and she's being given the knife by people well above her pay grade.
No, no - these cops are going down.
probable cause is not evidence...cunt
hey dick bag - I didn't say it was.
What I suggested was that people whining that the cops shouldnt have been *arrested* are as fucking clueless as you are.
You should just go suck all the bags of dicks that there are in the world.
Those people above her pay grade made fools of themselves over their support for railroading a white policemen in Ferguson, Missouri. And those people above her pay grade (Obama and Holder) not only did not get their conviction but they stirred a resentment among the American middle class that won't be easily dismissed.
The thing that will stop them - the bankers, the Jews and the criminals_ are the civilized people. And that's a far bigger force than you recognize. And you don't fool with it; you don't jab it with a stick and then expect it to retreat.
Ah....so you ARE bank boot licker.
I don't know or care about nay of that.
Everyon'es got a fucking theory.
Innocent until proven otherwise, for sure, but this sure looks like BPD assaulting someone, deliberately, who then died, making it manslaughter - at a minimum.
Again, maybe some are overcharged, maybe 1 or 2 are basically blameless - we will see.
But there's nothing worse than a dirty cop.
And apologists for dirty cops sicken me as much as apologists for Israel's [or America'] ongoing warmongering and warcrimes.
FUCKING A SHERLOCK - how do you know it was all 6? Wait for the facts of the case unlike so many fucktards in our society.
*I* didn't say it was all 6 and specifically conceded it might not be.
You fucking mook.
That's not what you stated fucking cunt:
'Perhaps one otr two of these cops are overcharged - but they are, some or most, going to jail, mostly because the probable cause is so strong {are you fucking people serious with your no pc bullshit, or just dumb as shit?}.'
This stopped being a mostly-libertarian board years ago, as evidenced by the tsunami of comments from right wing populists. I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed.
“The heirs of the French, English, and American revolutions had partly believed in their own phrases about the rights of man, freedom of speech, equality before the law, and the like, and have even allowed their conduct to be influenced by them to some extent. But by the fourth decade all the main currents of political thought were authoritarian. The earthly paradise had been discredited at exactly the moment when it became realizable.
Every new political theory, by whatever name it called itself, led back to hierarchy and regimentation. And in the general hardening of outlook that set in round about 1930, practices which had been long abandoned, in some cases for hundreds of years not only became common again, but were tolerated and even defended by people who considered themselves Enlightened and Progressive.” GO 1984
All the cops are criminals and all the sinners saints...yah right!
Just being a law abiding citizen is probable cause in Maryland. Progressive big government anti-American cop criminals there are supposed to be actively trying to shake down legal and law abiding concealed carry permit holders from other states that are passing thru.
http://joeforamerica.com/2014/01/gun-owners-careful-pass-maryland/
"Gun Owners: Be Careful if You Pass Through Maryland"Grimaldus
maybe they should just fire all the white cops.
thats what they want anyway.
they dont want equality, they want revenge.....and the truly stupid thing about it is that I doubt you could find one of them to make a calm coherent statement about WHY.
No conviction in a court unless you get fools and misfits on the jury.
A la the O.J. Simpson trial?
If I was a white cop living in Baltimore, or anywhere in MD, I would be looking to transfer elsewhere. Let the blacks kill each other and destroy their city.
They are already killing each other and destroying their city, while your heroic white cop stuffs his face with donuts in between beatings.
I'm thinking you are going to be suprised at how many of these 6 pigs are black.
If there is an intent by the powers that be to create enmity between police and the policed and to transfer policing power to the federal government, it seems as if the plan is working perfectly
That will be your Nationalized police force. As Obummer promised. A "civilian defense force as strong and well funded as the U.S. military"
what a circus. mob justice.
just awesome.
You have to wonder about a nation that tasers grandmas and handcuffs 4 year old kids. and fines people for feeding the poor. and fines people for collecting rain water on their own property.
Land of the Free? ROFLMAO. there is NO fucking nation on earth that is that CRAZY
It's great when governments and corporations take ownership of sea, air, land. After all it must be theirs!
PIG ROAST, BITCHEZ!!
good play. the politics win with no real action. the odds are the cops get off completely or some reduced harmless plea. the media declares victory. mission accomplished. kumbaya! whoopee!
the mexicans figured it out. street justice works. i don't mean to imply mexicans are smarter than americans with a bigger set of balls. i am telling you they are.
Chris Kyle type trained snipers should take out a few bad cops from 1500 yds. You can bet your ass ,those cops behaviour would soon change. Thats war and totally justified.
if you're here to poison the well...
might I suggest you examine your hard drive *very closely*?
go ahead....
Chris Kyle type trained snipers should take out a few bad cops from 1500 yds. You can bet your ass ,those cops behaviour would soon change. Thats war and totally justified.