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“The Bank for International Settlements is the bank which sanctions the most notorious outrage of this generation— the rape of Czechoslovakia.”

      — George Strauss, Labor MP, speaking in the House of Commons, May 1939

“the Bank for International Settlements should be liquidated before it
furnished any more sinews of war to Germany, and that the odd
relationship between the British government and the Bank of England
should be re-examined without delay.”

      — “Sees British Hands Tied on Czech Gold,” New York Times, June 6, 1939

When Nazi Germany annexed the Czechoslovak border province of the Sudetenland in September 1938, it immediately absorbed a good part of the country’s banking system as well as most of Czechoslovakia’s strategic defenses. By then the country’s national bank had prudently transferred most of its gold abroad to two accounts at the Bank of England: one in the name of the BIS, and one in the name of the National Bank of Czechoslovakia itself. (Countries had deposited some of their gold reserves in a sub-account at the BIS account in London to ease gold sales and purchases.) Of the 94,772 kilograms of gold, only 6,337 kilograms remained in Prague. The security of the national gold was more than a monetary issue. The Czechoslovak reserves, like those of Republican Spain, were an expression of nationhood. Carved out of the remains of the Austro-Hungarian Empire in 1918, the Czechoslovak Republic was a new and fragile nation. A good part of the gold had been donated by the public in the country’s early years. Josef Malik, the governor of the national bank, and his fellow Czechs believed that, even as the Nazis’ dismembered their homeland, if the national gold was safe, then something of the country’s independence would endure.

They were wrong. The Czechoslovaks’ faith in the probity of the BIS and the Bank of England was tragically misplaced. The gold was sacrificed, with barely a second thought, to the needs of transnational finance and the Third Reich.

The Nazis’ first demand came in February 1939 when Berlin ordered Prague to transfer just over 14.5 metric tons of gold, supposedly to back the German currency now circulating in the Sudetenland. This was certainly an innovative idea— first invade a neighboring country, annex part of it, and then demand that the newly truncated state supply the gold to pay for the loss of its territory.

The following month the question became academic. On March 15 the Wehrmacht marched into Prague. The German protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia was declared, and Czechoslovakia no longer existed. But the gold reserves did. Three days later a Reichsbank official was dispatched to the National Bank of Czechoslovakia and  ordered the directors, under the threat of death, to issue two orders. Thanks to diligent detective work by Piet Clements, the BIS archivist, we have a clear picture of what happened next. The first order instructed the BIS to transfer the 23.1 metric tons of Czechoslovak gold held at the BIS account at the Bank of England to the Reichsbank BIS account, also held at the Bank of England. The second order instructed the Bank of England to transfer almost 27 metric tons of gold held in the National Bank of Czechoslovakia’s own account to the BIS’s gold account at the Bank of England.

Malik and his fellow directors hoped that it would be obvious that the instructions had been issued under duress and so would not be implemented. The Nazis had just invaded Czechoslovakia and would obviously target the national gold reserves. But Malik had not reckoned on Montagu Norman. The governor of the Bank of England had no interest in whether Czechoslovakia was free or a Nazi colony. “Political” considerations must not affect the BIS’s transactions. The transfer order, he said, must go through.

Meanwhile, in Basel, Johan Beyen, the Dutch president of the BIS, wavered. Beyen discussed the matter with the BIS’s legal adviser, Felix Weiser. But like Norman, Weiser took the most formalistic approach possible. As long as the paperwork was in order, the monies must go through. Weiser argued, somewhat bizarrely, that there could be no legal grounds to claim that the transfer order had been issued under duress, as such a plea could be brought before a Swiss court only by the persons who had acted under duress. Clearly, the directors of the National Bank of Czechoslovakia were unlikely to travel to Switzerland to present their case. Therefore any decision not to authorize the transfer would be one of BIS policy, rather than administration. The board of the BIS made policy. Thus Beyen would have to consult the board to stop the payment. (This was poor advice for another reason— under the terms of the BIS statutes the Swiss authorities anyway had no jurisdiction over gold transfers between states.)

Beyen was unwilling to take a decision without authorization. But who could he ask? The chairman of the BIS board, Sir Otto Niemeyer, of the Bank of England, was traveling to Egypt and so was incommunicado. At 6 p.m. on March 20, Roger Auboin, the bank’s general manager, told Beyen that the governor of the Bank of France had discussed the matter with London. The Bank of England and the Bank of France would not be taking any action to stop the transfer, because they felt that there were no grounds for action. The BIS transfer order went through.

With London, Paris, and Basel’s compliance, Nazi Germany had just looted 23.1 metric tons of gold without a shot being fired. More than two-thirds of that gold was traded with the Dutch and Belgian national banks and was eventually transported from Amsterdam and Brussels to the Reichsbank’s vaults in Berlin. Czechoslovakia’s diligent planning to safeguard its national gold reserves, together with its misplaced faith in the integrity of the new international financial system, had come to nothing. The second transfer order for the 27 metric tons held in the National Bank of Czechoslovakia’s own account at the Bank of England did not go through. Sir John Simon, the chancellor of the Exchequer, had instructed banks to block all Czechoslovak assets. But Czechoslovak gold held in a BIS account at the Bank of England, it seemed, was not defined as a national asset and was beyond the reach of UK laws.

Norman and Beyen’s decision caused despair and incomprehension in Prague and uproar in London. The loss of the Czechoslovak gold was all “Norman’s fault,” exclaimed the Daily Herald. Paul Einzig, of the Financial News, ran a stream of stories exposing the complicity of both the treasury and the Bank of England in the affair. Einzig demanded to know why the treasury had not stopped the transfer, as it was in clear violation of the law known as the Czechoslovakia Act. Brendan Bracken, a journalist and ally of Winston Churchill, declared in the House of Commons that “the Bank of England after what has happened may no longer be looked on as the safest place in the world and the phrase ‘Safe as the Bank of England’ may no longer apply.” Churchill himself demanded to know how the government could urge people to enlist in the military when it was “so butter-fingered that six million pounds of gold can be transferred to the Nazi government.”

The real villain of the affair was Norman. Beyen, who later served as Dutch foreign minister and as executive director of the International Monetary Fund, was an ineffectual bureaucrat, paralyzed by the idea that he might have to take responsibility for a decision. Norman could have stopped the transfer immediately. He was the governor of the Bank of England, which held the two BIS accounts involved. At the very least he could have asked for the transfer to be referred to the BIS board for a decision, which would also have been a face-saving measure. He chose not to do so. It was clear that war was coming, one that Britain would have to fight. The Nazi invasion of Czechoslovakia had destroyed the last hopes of peace. That country’s gold reserves, held in London, were now a British national security issue.

Yet Norman’s priority was not the best interests of his homeland, but rather the independence of his beloved BIS. Even as the shells were loaded into the German tanks, Norman still believed that for the bankers it could be business as usual. Nothing could interfere with the bankers’ sacred neutrality and gentlemanly trust in one other, not even the coming conflagration with a regime whose evil was now plain to see. The Bank of France had refused to stop the transfer but had also asked Norman to block it. Norman was adamant. There could be no political interference in the operations of the BIS, even, it seemed, when they were ordered at gunpoint.

Norman did not express any regret at all over the Czech gold transfer. In fact, he was positively indignant at the very idea that the British government might have some say in the bank’s actions. He wrote, “I can’t imagine any step more improper than to bring government into the current banking affairs of the BIS. I guess it would mean ruin. I imagine the Germans would never have paid any interest to the BIS, and at the board we would have then likely have found the Germans, Italians, and Japs standing together!” Norman then lied to Sir John Simon, the chancellor of the Exchequer, albeit with a very telling falsehood. Simon asked Norman if he could not have warned the government that, thanks to the BIS, Germany was about to acquire “large additional financial strength.” Norman told Simon that while the Bank of England held gold for the BIS, it did not know if the gold was actually owned by the BIS or was held by the BIS for other central banks. This was untrue, as Norman later admitted. Norman then made a significant, even shocking, admission. He told Simon that “he was very doubtful that he would have thought it his duty, as Director of the BIS, to make a statement about its transactions to the British government.”

Norman even wrote to Beyen to clarify the matter and to assure the BIS president where his ultimate loyalties lay in Basel. Norman did not want to publicly correct the minutiae of what was being reported in the press and Hansard, the British parliamentary journal— that the Bank of England did not know whose gold was held in the BIS accounts— as that would expose him. “The difficulty is that if I point out to the Treasury that this is incorrect, I lay myself open to being asked details of BIS transactions, which I do not consider the Treasury are entitled to know.”  This was little short of treason. As Norman’s compatriots were enlisting in the military, preparing to risk their lives for the freedoms and luxury that he enjoyed, as his country prepared for the war against the Nazis that all knew was coming, Norman blithely announced that his primary loyalty was not to Britain, but to a hyper-privileged, international bank that was not even a decade old.

The mistake of Malik, the director of the National Bank of Czechoslovakia, was to believe that either Norman, Beyen, or indeed any of the BIS management could conceive of any moral or political dimension to their decisions. The world’s most powerful international bankers were not only unwilling to obstruct the Nazi seizure of Czechoslovak— or Austrian— assets. They simply could not conceive of any reason why they should do so. As long as the formalities were observed, the necessary papers were stamped and the gold was re-assigned. Norman’s precious independence for both the Bank of England and the BIS had been bought at a high price— in mountains of gold ingots to pay for steel to build bombs that would soon rain down on London.

* * * * *

... the affair had highlighted the deeply unsettling connections between the Bank of England, the British government, and the BIS. There was a good deal of cross-party feeling in Britain, reported the New York Times, that “the Bank for International Settlements should be liquidated before it furnished any more sinews of war to Germany, and that the odd relationship between the British government and the Bank of England should be re-examined without delay.”  The New York Times then was able to assume that its readers would understand a classical allusion. The word “sinews” was a reference to an epithet of Cicero, the Roman philosopher, who had said, “The sinews of war are infinite money.” Cicero’s observation was as prescient then as during the late 1930s. But those who wanted the BIS to be liquidated were too late. Thanks to the BIS the “sinews of war” and the flow of near-infinite money were about to be immeasurably strengthened.

Source: TOWER OF BASEL: The Shadowy History of the Secret Bank that Runs the World by Adam LeBor. 

 

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Fri, 05/01/2015 - 15:54 | 6051774 Mister Delicious
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Eh, who gives a shit.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 15:59 | 6051790 SickDollar
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well check than this info about Gold:

Central banks consider joining the LBMA. (So much for transparency.)

Central banks have expressed interest in joining the London Bullion Market Association, which pretty much runs the London gold market, according to a report by the LBMA's chief executive officer in the May edition of its newsletter, The Alchemist.

 

CME Group suspends two gold traders for 60 days for spoofing

CME Group Inc. on Thursday barred two traders from its markets for allegedly colluding to enter orders repeatedly with no intention of trading, a strategy that has been fingered as a key contributor to the 2010 Wall Street flash crash.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:02 | 6051805 keremetski
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Why list of dead bankers stopped growing?
Run out of nail guns and they all relocated to ground level?

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:09 | 6051823 CH1
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The Lesson: Rulers will fuck you over every time.

This really should be no surprise, and yet... 99% continually  obey the exact same people they call "liar," "thief," etc.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:13 | 6051849 Manthong
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..the good news is that the fourth Reich is alive and well..

Go ask a Greek.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:26 | 6051890 TeamDepends
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We had a bunch of gold until that fateful day on the lake....

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:30 | 6051898 Manthong
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I have read that one of the weird things about finance is that the Nazi’s kept  payments up to the B.O.E. while the Messerschmitts and Junkers were over London dispensing love..

Gee, I wonder why that might have been.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:42 | 6051917 TeamDepends
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The Nazis agreed to an ARM*?
*Adjustable Rate Death Pledge

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:59 | 6051956 Manthong
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And  OK … I am a really reasonable guy, and I do not claim to know everything, but…..

What was the name of the King/Queen's abdicator, whatever...  family before a traditional English name appeared to be requisite?

 

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:59 | 6051962 TeamDepends
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We will go with Habsburg.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:00 | 6051967 Manthong
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ya..  we are getting close to the truth.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:04 | 6051985 TeamDepends
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No wait, that guy is drunk. It's Saxe-Coburg-Gothe!

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:07 | 6051994 Manthong
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ya.. ya.. ya

Oy veysmir.. truth is emerging.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 21:16 | 6052414 Richard Chesler
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It makes perfect sense now,

The "holocaust"(TM), was nothing more than a family feud.

 

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 08:33 | 6053272 Oh regional Indian
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It was actually the Hollow Cost. The great swindle. Or so says Earnst Zundel. And I believe him.

That said, some Native american flute and drums for the trippers ;-) sequence 12

https://youtu.be/pNYSDv3EpW8

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 08:52 | 6053291 WillyGroper
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Hey ORI,

You made a comment re: apples being toxic @ time of year. This is new to me. Could you explain in chat or give me a link please?

TIA

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 09:12 | 6053315 VinceFostersGhost
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Eh, who gives a shit.

 

I do bitch.

 

Bad news, I'm coming to dinner.

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 09:24 | 6053333 GMadScientist
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"Eh, who gives a shit."

Anyone with a brain!

Primary lesson: Au is the second most important metal for 'nationhood'.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:08 | 6051999 0b1knob
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The Brits financed and encouraged the rise of Hitler and the Nazis?

Why that's as crazy as the idea that the US organized ISIS.

 

 

Oh wait....

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:21 | 6052014 Manthong
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The wife and family thinks that I am absolutely off the reservation, but that is OK as long as they do not deprive me of the Jagermiester and the Mogen David.

 

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 10:46 | 6053481 dogbreath
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its generally a waste of time to concern yourself with what women think unless they are unicorns

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:17 | 6052022 TeamDepends
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But not nearly as crazy as the right-wing notion that the Barry regime is allowing ISIS butchers to cross the southern border unhindered on flying carpets.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:26 | 6052053 Manthong
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These notions on the relatively inconsequential blog might be fun but

right now State is sponsoring genocide in some southern gulf region.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 18:22 | 6052195 MonetaryApostate
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I don't think that's what it's about, not at all.....

It's either this....  (Possible rioting from our southern workers?)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/03/obama-mormon-leaders_n_6997834....

Or they are preparing for a southern invasion (Which seems plausible)

 

Anyway, I just stumbled upon this site, which blew my mind completely away...

http://www.irishsavant.blogspot.ca/

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 19:59 | 6052316 J S Bach
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The Germans are probably the only nation that didn't (and doesn't) even need gold to back their currency.  The Labor Certificates that Hitler set up as collateral for the mark worked wonders for their economy and almost single-handedly lifted them out of the Great Depression within a few years.  (No... it wasn't armaments spending that accomplished this.)  Whether people like to admit it or not, the German work-ethic and ingenuity is unsurpassed both then and now.  It's not a coincidence that they dominate the "euro system" today.

(Humbly submitted by the greatest German composer.)

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 02:03 | 6053074 Manthong
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Yo, Jo...

They always had the support of NY and London bankers..

that is the dirty secret that needs to be revealed..

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 08:59 | 6053298 J S Bach
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The National Socialists may have been initially "backed" by non-German bankers to jump-start their push to power, but one must remember that the international banksters historically have always backed all sides of any conflicting nations.  This strategy had always assured them profits in the end once war broke out.  One of Hitler's goals was to do away with these private nation-wrecking usurers once he came to power - and he almost accomplished that imperative feat.

In my mind, THAT'S the dirty little secret.

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 09:18 | 6053326 GMadScientist
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Oh, I see, he just needed to destroy Poland, France, and half the future Iron Curtain to get to em. Right.

Your rationalizing sycophantism is more than a little stomach-turning.

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 09:30 | 6053347 Manthong
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you might want reconsider your notions of sociopaths and psychopaths..

especially in the new normal.

 

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 11:53 | 6053666 J S Bach
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Sorry, Sherlock... but, it's a proven fact that Herr Hitler did not want war with the west.  The territorial dispute with Poland was the impetus that gave the international criminals their cue to goad their puppets - England & France - into declaring war on Germany - not the other way around.  Once war starts, all bets and accusations are off - and invasions ensue.  That's how wars are won or lost.  As to the war in the east... if you think that Bolshevik Communism (60 million Christian innocents murdered) was a better alternative to National Socialism, then we will agree to disagree.

Try letting go of what your high-school teachers taught you about history - especially that period.  Historical truth has to be gleaned independently by an open, honest and reasoning mind.  The powers that won the second world war will never admit - nor allow it to be taught - that it was the successful German monetary system that had to be crushed.  Otherwise, its triumph would have inevitably bled out across the world, thus ending their reign as supreme usurers.

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 12:13 | 6053725 Sandmann
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Hitler was Anglophile which is why he saved the British Army at Dunkirk from Guderian's Panzers.

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 09:24 | 6053331 Manthong
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Well, THAT’S’s an interesting notion.

Maybe it was his real struggle…

 

Oh boy,  this is getting a heavy…..

gee, I wish somebody woud do a Hitler video of the fall of his banker relationships.

 

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 07:52 | 6053231 Mr. Magoo
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What Happens When You Hand Over Your Gold To The Bank Of England For "Safekeeping"

It mysteriously turns into tungsten

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 20:42 | 6052532 logicalman
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All wars are bankers' wars.

Google it, if you don't already know.

 

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 03:43 | 6053103 Manthong
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Geez.. that’s almost as incredulous as stating that Leon Trotsky was given millions by NY, London and German bankers to overthrow the Tzar, get them out of the war and conduct the Red Terror that killed millions of people, looted the hell out of a growing Russia, threw them all into collectivist hell and paid dozens of millions back to the bankers.

..and that Trotsky was the architect.. and that Lenin was just a newswriter that became the front man.

I learned that in high school..

 

NOT.


 

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 13:33 | 6053879 RaceToTheBottom
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And the US corollary:

All Presidents are Bankster approved.

In the case of Dynasties like the Bush, Kennedy and possibly Clinton, all Dynasties are War Banksters approved.

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 15:55 | 6054107 NihilistZero
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All wars are bankers' wars.  Google it, if you don't already know.

If only Mel Gibson had said 'You know the bankers are responsible for all the wars in the world" not only would he have been more accurate, but he wouldn't have gotten into the same trouble.  i sincerely wish he had made Freedom to Fascism instead of Aaron Russo.  The film and the message would have gotten the play it deserved.  With all the money he's made and the fact that he's blacklisted from A list Hollywood anyway he should make such a film now.  Dude is swimming in Passion of the Christ money.  If he really has a problem with those specific Banking interests that start wars 9and happen to be of the tribe) I can't think of a better way for him to voice his displeasure.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:37 | 6052070 nailgunnin4you
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muslims

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:45 | 6052102 Skateboarder
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I'm surprised he didn't express all of that information as a list. ;-)

p.s. was replying to your post re. Snyderian Christianism.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 20:44 | 6052539 logicalman
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Awesome!

I always enjoy reading a comment that is full of information and carefully thought out!

 

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 23:18 | 6052864 2¢Wurth
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...the good news is that the Fourth Reich is alive and well...

 

Go ask a Greek...

 

Or a Ukrainian.

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 08:33 | 6053273 Manthong
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Oy.. the EU/US Nazis tried a final solution there but they ran into a little problem.. AGAIN.

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 07:09 | 6053207 Semi-employed W...
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A Greek communist?

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 18:53 | 6052301 Theosebes Goodfellow
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~"The Lesson: Rulers will fuck you over every time."~

Yes, but more importantly, (and something that each of us can do something about), is...

DO NOT TRUST YOUR MONEY TO BANKS.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 19:50 | 6052406 RichardParker
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The Lesson:

If you don't hold it, you don't own it.

 

 

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 20:51 | 6052554 Grimaldus
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Shee-it, holding it wont help if Hillary Clinton wants it bad enough. Look what she did to Gaddafi and what happened to Libya's 144 tons of gold? Yeah and wow how about that man the Nazi rape of Czech gold was nothing compared to Hillary's rape of Libya's gold.

 

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/190316

 

"Where are Libya's 144 tons of gold ?"

 

"Leaving aside that comedy of exporting democracy to Libya on the bayonets of the anonymous "rebels" and in NATO bombs and rockets one would like to learn what has happened to such an "undemocratic" thing as Libya's gold reserve assessed at 144 tons , i. e. the 25th biggest gold reserve in the world ?! One of the main 'sins' of Qaddafi , beside inviting the Chinese oil companies to Libya and refusing to participate in the NATO Africa Command, was his idea to issue gold dinar as an international currency that would have defeated the US dollar by the simple fact that since 1971 no gold has supported the US currency while the Libyan dinar was to be in gold."

 

 

Oh man oh man there is a metric-butt-ton of stuff out there on Hillary's war crime destruction of Libya and Syria.

 

http://www.infowars.com/nato-loots-libyan-gold-as-tripoli-falls/

 

"NATO Loots Libyan Gold As Tripoli Falls"

 

 

"The war was launched, with the gleeful support of the western corporate media, on the hoax that Gaddafi’s government was slaughtering “protesters” en masse. In reality, these “protesters” had commandeered military tanks and fighter jets. For weeks, the establishment press re-branded what was a civil war as a brutal series of crimes against humanity by Gaddafi’s regime, just long enough for the United Nations to pass a “no fly zone” resolution that instantly turned into a massive NATO bombardment overnight.

Global central banks will now get to carve up Africa’s most oil-rich nation while simultaneously divvying up around 144 tons of gold bullion – which might go some way to repaying Hugo Chavez after his announcement that Venezuela is to nationalize its precious metals industry. Unless of course Chavez becomes the next head on the chopping block for another “humanitarian intervention”.

The attack on Libya, spearheaded by Obama without Congressional approval, against the advice of his own constitutional lawyers, and on a promise that the conflict would last “days not weeks,” was a brazen illustration of how the so-called “war on terror” was a cruel hoax.

From the very beginning, and in violation of their own resolution, NATO powers armed, funded and trained Al-Qaeda militants who had killed U.S. troops, setting them up to command the rebels in the march towards Tripoli. As the Wall Street Journal reported in a piece entitled, Ex-Mujahedeen Help Lead Libyan Rebels, Al-Qaeda terrorists who worked directly for Bin Laden were tasked with recruiting, training and acting as front line field commanders for the rebel army."

 

Nazi's got nothing compared to "Bloody Hands" Hillary Clinton and Barack "Rivers of Blood" Obombya.

Both must be arrested, prosecuted and executed for treason and crimes against humanity.

 

Grimaldus

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 07:51 | 6053229 g'kar
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"Look what she did to Gaddafi and what happened to Libya's 144 tons of gold?"

 

Lesson 1: Never trust a UFSATM (United Fascistic States of America) politician

Lesson 2: Don't let the UFSATM (United Fascistic States of America) into your country

Lesson 3: Don't park all your metal in one place

Lesson 4: If you don't have any lakes to have boating accidents, use the sea

Lesson 5: Otter's quote: "You fucked up, you trusted us"

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 02:12 | 6053079 shouldvekilledthem
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* if you don't hold it or can't defend it, you don't own it.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:08 | 6051831 PhoQ
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It stops being news after the first dozen or so.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 18:24 | 6052206 MonetaryApostate
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I'd opt to go with....

There is nothing new under the sun....

& like um, Nothing changes....

(Granted new tech has been boiling over since what mid 1900s?)

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 18:20 | 6052188 pgroup
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The professionals make it look natural so nobody notices the pattern. That's why those killers in nursing homes get away with killing so many patients.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 18:26 | 6052213 MonetaryApostate
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I was just looking at the # of newly registered sex offenses by state, freaking staggering statistics....

(Obviously crime is completely boiling over in the USA)

Which is in line with what some cops told me, they just can't keep up...

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 21:00 | 6052252 Renfield
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The Vatican AND the Crown systems of government seem to be a nest of pedophiles, so it's hardly a surprise that the sexual predation fish rots from the head down.

The Vatican secret is mostly out, I think. The UK Crown secret can be started on (but hardly finished) here:

http://winteractionables.com/?p=13469

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/06/britain-s-horrific-vip-...

http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/20520-the-u-k-gover...

http://www.sott.net/article/290780-2014-The-pedophilia-scandals-that-swa...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westminster_paedophile_dossier

This is another topic that, I think, belongs on the Hedge.

It is hardly surprising that Central Banks prefer their puppet governments to be criminals who are easily blackmailed. Sexual blackmail is the best of all. No wonder so many of our modern 'leaders' come from a suspect, murky sexual background. This is also why 'sexual tolerance' is suddenly such a popular topic in government-run 'schools'. It suits the banks' agenda to privilege this 'diversity' over literacy, management, and arithmetic.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 22:43 | 6052812 Ms No
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Don't forget the US den of pederasts.. otherwise known as DC.

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-franklin-cover-up/

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 12:02 | 6053688 WillyGroper
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This rot is so deep they all need to be crucified. Now being pushed as a lifestyle choice...WTF

I had my opinions about the Catholic church until I stumbled upon Malachi Martin, an ex-Jesuit. He quit because he knew the Vatican had been infiltrated in the 60's by the same filth that runs the banks/governments. The Synagog of Satan.

The zeitgeist of the moment makes me sick. I went to see David Sedaris the other night. He's quite the wordsmith. One of the funniest books I've read was "Me Talk Pretty One Day". He was pretty funny until he made a pedo joke. My hair caught on fire. Even more sickening were the sheer number of folks that laughed.

Khazars excell at debauchery. All incremental.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 18:49 | 6052289 X_Weatherman
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Story at Deutsche Wirtshafts Nachrichten Kanadischer Investment-Banker tot in einem Hotelzimmer aufgefunden

 

Canadian investment banker found dead in a hotel room

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 18:55 | 6052297 X_Weatherman
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Duplicate

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:02 | 6051807 dariomilano
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know history, than make the same mistakes

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:53 | 6051947 McCormick No. 9
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This was certainly an innovative idea— first invade a neighboring country, annex part of it, and then demand that the newly truncated state supply the gold to pay for the loss of its territory.

Good ideas get used again. In the case of Iraq, first invade, partition into warring ethno-religious statelets, and THEN demand that the newly truncated state use its oil to pay for its loss of territory.  


Fri, 05/01/2015 - 18:27 | 6052217 MonetaryApostate
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Obviously the elite learned how to turn lead into gold a long time ago  (at gun point)...

Which is why that old proverb in the bible is true....

"The violent take by force."

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 19:45 | 6052357 The_Dude
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This was certainly an innovative idea— first invade a neighboring country, annex part of it, and then demand that the newly truncated state supply the gold to pay for the loss of its territory.

 I'm pretty sure the Germans viewed this episode as rescuing their fellow Germans that were being oppressed by the Czechs since 1919 (a direct vioation of the Treaty of St. Germaine).  And asking for the gold was just them asking to get back some of the reparations that they had already divvied out.  All agreed to at the time by the TPTB.

 

For some objective truth..... 

The Anschluss of the Sudeten Regions and the Subjugation of Czechia

or some descriptions of what happened before that caused Hitler to act and the 'real' genocide of Germans after the war....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23pNOPJt93s

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 01:45 | 6053064 Hapa
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yes, this is important history to know. it is all too easy to demonize the Germans of that day.

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 18:12 | 6054494 The_Dude
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Pop quiz: What was one of the first acts of Hitler upon the Anschluss of Austria?

Answer: He arrested Louis Nathaniel Rothschild, head of the Creditanstalt Bank whose wreckless bankruptcy precipitated the World financial collapse of the 30's and cost Germany billions.

He should have known the banksters  would have forced a war within years...

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:38 | 6051914 ZH Snob
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Ah, yes, the satanic City.  They direct and control Wall St.   We are still a colony of merry old england.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:55 | 6051954 ...out of space
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here i pick up this link http://www.relay-of-life.org/nazi-roots/chapter.html

the nazi roots in brusel

read this book and send link to someone or two

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:01 | 6051969 The Count
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Obviously idiots like you don't. You think this is all unimportant? Go crawl back under your rock.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:15 | 6052017 Mister Delicious
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I mean - look, the fucking TPP, which is being 'fast-tracked' and led by the usual suspects, is a huge, huge danger to the United States and it seems like no one is talking about it - I mean, its not being covered in the MSM at all, really, given how shitty it is.

I might vote for Sanders on his TPP stance alone.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:28 | 6052060 LooseLee
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The MSM are complicit. Why would they say anything but 'good' about it? STARVE THE BEAST!

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 19:59 | 6052201 Renfield
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<<The MSM are complicit. Why would they say anything but 'good' about it? STARVE THE BEAST!>>

Turn them off. (Right, Freddie?) Do not listen to them, talk about them, or 'analyse' their garbage. This includes the 'markets', which have been reduced to a Central Bank propaganda arm and are simply another MSM in and of themselves.

Here is an article that deserves a place on the Hedge:

http://blog.milesfranklin.com/truth-and-passion-at-a-premium

Andy Hoffman here exposes the lie of MSMarkets, and the waste of time it is to pay them any attention. Every market is now centrally planned by the criminal banks, who do not even bother to hide the existence of their stock PPTs, bullion PPTs, and oil PPTs. Why does anyone waste time on 'charts' anymore? Even if one could successfully 'trade', this makes about as much sense as relying on casino winnings rather than actually producing something that people can use. One's time is better spent learning to grow plants, raise animals, weld or smith or sew, or even how to nullify laws or expose criminal governments -- rather than picking up a few more fiat nickels in front of the approaching Global Reset steamroller.

It is as much a waste of time analysing 'charts' that are run by central planners, as it is watching MSNBC or Fox, as it is voting for Bank Candidate #1 or Bank Candidate #2. People really need to STOP doing this. All of this simply allows the criminals at the top to wrap themselves in a mandate flag. It gives their treasonous existence the robe of legitimacy, and that is why so many of today's peasants are complicit in their own looting and genocide.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:21 | 6052041 Kirk2NCC1701
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"Eh, who gives a shit."

Well, allow Kirk to tell you who should give a shit:  Anyone who has anything of intrinsic, universal and enduring value.  That's who. As I've said before...

   When the Rule of Law applies:  Possession is 90% of the Law.

   When Chaos or Totalitarianism applies:  Possession is 100% of the Law.

Connect the dots and plan, hedge and act accordingly.  Else... "A fool and his gold..."

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:30 | 6052064 rubiconsolutions
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Possession is 100% of the law.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 21:29 | 6052641 Icelandicsaga.....
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Zombies dont give a shit.. we got a part for you down in Senoia, Ga on set of Walking Dead.

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 01:24 | 6053045 maxblockm
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No, no, say it without the profanity: "What difference does it make?!"  There, doesn't that sound better? 

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 15:57 | 6051777 MonetaryApostate
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Tick tock till armageddon?

 

http://www.countdown.org/

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 15:55 | 6051778 Winston Churchill
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Thank dog its just a barbarous relic these day.

Oh wait....

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 15:56 | 6051782 mt paul
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the gold is off that lily..

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 15:57 | 6051784 LawsofPhysics
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...and...it's gone.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 15:59 | 6051792 enforcer92677
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<Hudson voice> "Fuckin' A man!  Fuckin' A!"

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:01 | 6051798 Oh regional Indian
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Gold held in large physical concentrations is a totally different animal compared to small personal holdings.

Gold is a wealth generator, by itself, it's only value lies in it;s purity and it's unsullability....

https://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2012/01/19/shattering-midass-curse-gold...

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:06 | 6051820 LFMayor
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and shirts!   Shirts like your cousin Mr V (venkatessaRhadikrishan) wears.

AMI Right
am Iright
Am I right?

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:02 | 6051799 MFL8240
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UK and US both run by courrption and no one cares! Free EBT cards and Obama phones to quell the ignorant and those ruined by the Federal Reserve gangsters!

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:01 | 6051801 Stanley Kubrick
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That the BIS/BOE being run by psycopaths was that apparent 80 years ago AND NOTHING CHANGED....and back then, the masses didn't have their noses stuck in their cell phones....

Whaddya think's going change in 2015?

Hang on, I'm getting a text....

 

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:14 | 6051851 teslaberry
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montagu norman, wow, finally zh is investigating the fascist nazi infiltration of the bankster class and not blaiming it on zionists. 

 

cue all the anti-semite trolls to jump on this post. 

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:30 | 6051897 czarangelus
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Zionists are just another breed of fascist, and not a particularly subtle breed either. "God's Chosen" - has anyone ever chosen a more arrogant title for themselves in history?

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 19:01 | 6052317 X_Weatherman
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Religio-Fascist---a different form of psychopathy from the U.S. Corporate-Fascist and even the Saudi-Arabian Religio-Fascist.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:31 | 6051900 Rock On Roger
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Damn philistines, eh?

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:41 | 6051922 FMOTL
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I love the way "anti-semite" is thrown at people as if it is automatically a "very bad" thing when in reality it is a perfectly rational and "good" response to any individual or group of people who self proclaim to be "especially chosen" by "their" god to rule over everyone else ! What ? were all just supposed to automatically role over and go "oh alright then if you say so you must be right, here have my land cos well , you know , your god said it was yours and well if your little books from your god say its alright to treat us like livestock well that must be right . I could go on but you get the jist :-)

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:28 | 6052057 Wahooo
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Fuck the Chosenites, Zionists, and the Jews and Christians who support them.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 20:01 | 6052428 Fun Facts
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Anti-semitic, Its a Trick, We Always Use it – YouTube

Former Israeli Minister Shulamit Aloni on Democracy Now says “Anti-semitic”, “its a trick we always use it”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0kWAqZxJVE

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:18 | 6052028 Mister Delicious
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yes tesla - because Goldman and the Treasury are lousy with German Nazis, not German Jews nowdays.

You fuckin' jabrone...

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:15 | 6051853 Groundhog Day
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what creature lies above the BIS

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:57 | 6051959 DutchBoy2015
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The KIKE roach Rothschilds

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 22:51 | 6052809 essence
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"what creature lies above the BIS"      Groundhog asks.

An excellent question.

This article demonstrates how central bankers seem to have allegiance to an entity beyond their home country.
Montagu Norman (Bank of England head and Director of the BIS) clearly wasn't concerned with England's welfare. Well, the common man at least, like the one who gets killed in wars.

So, how are things any different today?  Central Bank heads meet bi-monthly at the BIS headquarters in Switzerland. The meeting content is kept secret. Real world observation of CB actions would indicate they act in concert & collusion.

Yes, exactly what people control the BIS (and I am not referring to the mandarins that come & go).

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:22 | 6051881 boattrash
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Well, I sure as fuck wouldn't hand it over to BofA (or any other bank) for that matter.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:26 | 6051891 Peter Pan
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So Greece is not the only country that has unresolved issues with Germany.

BIS  = Big International Swindle

Justice will come at some stage but not through negotiation.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:28 | 6051894 czarangelus
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International bankers funded the Nazis... yeah, we know.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:29 | 6051896 FMOTL
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Cue all the anti-germanic trolls to jump on this post. Its just fucking endless, everyday for the last 70 years it seems the German people are demonised constantly , Nazi this Nazty that , these people in their very smart Hugo Boss costumes seem to have done more eeevil things than everyone else in the last 5000 years of recorded history. Thankfully a growing number of awake people are wising up to this very deliberate and by design lie of the "victors" and also who the "real victors" were and still are.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:33 | 6052068 giovanni_f
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You nailed it. As a remark, Sudentenland was inhabited mainly by Germans. It was taken from Austria after WW I (such as South Tirolia which was given to Italy by the British as reward to have switched sides). WW I was a war carefully pepared by England. After WW II the German population was either killed or deported, some managed to excape the ethnic cleansing that had been organized in London during the war.

England successfully managed to declare Germany as the absolute evil. Looking at this fucked country though, it becomes clear that it idn't help.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 20:44 | 6052343 AIIB
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Spielberg always doing his part to make the evil Nazis pay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu_fQR0iyUQ

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 21:14 | 6054989 N3mo
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Correct. At this point, I would be more concerned with the Not-Sees.

The Public had better extract their gourds from their fertilizer chutes PDQ.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:32 | 6051904 jtg
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As I have always said, the only gift I have for bankers is a rope and lamp post.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:43 | 6051925 Salah
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Hey, the Spanish sent their gold [a helluva lot more] to Stalin for "safekeeping" during the Franco-won civil war.  Think they got it back from the Soviets?

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:14 | 6052013 kowalli
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soviet gold was stolen after collapse.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:47 | 6051934 Mister Delicious
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can you imagine a US pol saying this??:

Canada's National Security Advisor Still Suspects Canadian Politicians Are Under Foreign Influence

https://news.vice.com/article/canadas-national-security-advisor-still-su...

http://pressfortruth.ca/top-stories/national-security-advisor-suspects-c...

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 16:57 | 6051936 Jonesy
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Natzis!  Natzis!  When will the nightmares end?!

 Give it a fucking break already, JEWS won WWII using everybody else's armies, just like always.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:22 | 6052042 Mister Delicious
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according to wikipedia, the american entry into world war 1 had nothing to do with jewish zionists or the quid pro quo of the Balfour Declaration.

So, you know, is it still history when they cut out the parts that don't present "Jews "qua collective as anything but Eternal and Sacred Victim?

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v06/v06p389_John.html

http://inconvenienthistory.com/archive/2013/volume_5/number_2/the_jewish...

I ask for no other privilege than the right to know, and speak the truth.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:00 | 6051965 Fun Facts
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the bank of england is a pedophile nest.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:09 | 6052001 q99x2
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It must be terrible to suffer under the weight of Merkel.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:20 | 6052032 debtor of last ...
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Several anonymous vans entering a Ukrainian airport, dropping their load in an even more anonymous airplane. Lybia, Venezuela, Czechoslovakia, Cyprus... The BIS, and Switserland as the elites 'hub' for protection, BIS personel immune for law suits, Switserland as an autonomous region in the ages of skimming and war. The pendulum swings, but the clock stays.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:32 | 6052073 tony wilson and...
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Antony C Sutton: Wall Street and the rise of Hitler & communism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sah_Xni-gtg

Mark Weber: Holocaust Denial - Apr 7, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf5X34VCUnk

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:37 | 6052090 Mister Delicious
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The year 2014 will be remembered as a banner year for violence in Israel and Palestine; most of the casualties occurred in the Gaza Strip, and most of these were Palestinian civilians killed by the Israeli army. Six months later, however, these tragic deaths are almost forgotten, chiefly because the powerful propaganda of the Israel lobby is able to explain them away with a well-rehearsed narrative: “Israel only wants to live in peace with its neighbors, but the Palestinians hope to kick us all out of the country, so we have no choice but to retaliate.” Zionist hasbara can be even further condensed, distilled down to just six words: “They hate us for our equality.”

http://www.alternet.org/world/how-israel-covers-its-ugly-racial-holy-war

But what better way to obfuscate Israel's racism and militarism than by bringing up the fucking Nazis over and over and over and over...

they'll show trial a 93 year old book keeper for being a "Nazi" but refer to proposed investigations into Israeli bombing of hospitals and UN schools as "anti-semitism."

Tired of their bullshit. It isn't even clever, just designed to fool the average idiot, who doesn't notice how the corporate media doesnt seem to cover the "occupation" at all - even as it covers "israel" ad nauseam

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 19:06 | 6052230 Renfield
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Start educating the average idiot, by refusing to respect their MSM and chart-following obsessions. You must know a few around you. You don't even need to tell them what's really going on. (Not like they'd believe or understand you anyway.) A good start is to laugh at their belief in these obvious liars and war criminals. Peasants hate being treated as fools. (Remember the anger over Jonathan Gruber's statement that Barkycare was passed "thanks to the stupidity of the American voter"?) When they trot themselves out to vote, roll your eyes and let them know that a vote for the 'conservative' is a vote for the bank, and a vote for the 'liberal' is a vote for the bank. Learn to sloganise. Start calling their candidates, the Bank Puppets. (Sounds like the name of a band.)

Part of the problem is the undeserved respect we give their sources, simply by confusing it as respect for them. We need to start by treating them as people respectfully, but mocking their sources without mercy. (It's important to do both, so they understand that disrespect for their corrupt sources is not disrespect for them.) Never underestimate the power of the mockery of obvious lies, in sparking a peasant's curiosity for what is legitimate.

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 09:29 | 6053341 Benjamin123
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You can oppose your zionist opressors without having to fake simpathy for a bunch of sandniggers you have nothing in common with. Not culturally, linguistically, politically, racial, nothing. Real human beings do not give a shit about complete strangers half way across the world but if you feel oh so inclined to use their suffering as a chip to advance your own case, more power to you.

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 12:07 | 6053710 WillyGroper
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Sutton is one of a long list of truth tellers these bastids destroyed.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:35 | 6052082 PGR88
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Invest in gold - and also invest in LEAD

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 17:39 | 6052092 Miss Expectations
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The Munich Agreement (Sept 30, 1938) didn't tip off the Czech's????

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 18:49 | 6052118 g'kar
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The Roman Empire didn't disappear, it became the Vatican

The Nazis didn't disappear, they became Operation Paperclip

The Germans conquered the last of the Western Roman Empire (Rome)

Rome was represented by the Fasci symbol

Rome stood by while the Nazis stampeded through Europe during WWII

Hence the Vatican was still German

The US became a fascist state in time after Operation Paperclip

 

Just my opinion of course.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 19:32 | 6052371 Zapporius
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Pretty much.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 20:48 | 6052549 ParkAveFlasher
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Most recently, German pope segued into an Argentine pope. 

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 23:34 | 6052899 northern vigor
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Revelation 17:9 ...the  seven heads are seven hills where the woman rules.

There will be seven resurgents of the Holy Roman Empire. Six are past, one is to come. Rome is often known as the city with seven hills.

 

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 23:51 | 6052927 Seek_Truth
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That's a common eschatological error.

The next verses clarify that what is meant by the 7 heads are seven kingdoms, which is identical to the meaning of the seven headed beast in Revelation chapter 13,  both of which are connected to Daniel chapter 7.

Here is the meaning of the "seven heads/hills/kings/kingdoms":

"and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while.  "The beast which was and is not, is himself also an eighth and is one of the seven, and he goes to destruction" - Revelation 17:10,11

Seven Kings: Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome, UK/US.

Seventh King: UK/US.

Five have fallen (written while Rome was the King): Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece.

Eighth King, and one of the Seven- was, and is not: Persia (Iran), (process of elimination shows it can't be any other).

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 07:15 | 6053211 Oh regional Indian
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There is a real/physical counterpart to all the myths. This is a fractal world and though I knwo Christians distrusted the gnostics as pagans etc., one simple maxim, via Hermes the Thrice great .....RULES.

Simple: That which is above is as that which is below.

As above, so below.

Via Scrappy in comments yesterday...same topic...

You are really in tune regarding the seven hills ORI.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_claimed_to_be_built_on_seve...

"where all faiths and religions sprang from."

Tirumala: Tiru means 'Holy' or 'Sacred' and mala means hills/ mountain in the Tamil language. Therefore, it translates as Holy mountains.[11]

Venkateswara: In Tamil , the meaning was given byNammalwar(43rd Kali of 3059 BC-According to traditional scriptures)[12

According to traditional account by Manavala Mamunigal, the first three azhwars namely Poigai, Bhoothath and Pey belong to Dwapara Yuga (before 4200 BC).

However there is...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navan_Fort

Navan Fort to consider as well,

According to Irish mythology and historical tradition it was the capital of the Ulaidh, the people who gave their name to the province of Ulster. It was supposedly founded by the goddessMacha in the 7th or 5th century BC, and was the seat ofConchobar mac Nessa in the tales of the Ulster Cycle. Conchobar is said to have had three houses at Eamhain Mhacha:

http://unsolvedmysteries.com/usm95328.html

My best professors said "Everything is Related"

Some say human civilization has traveled in a circle. (Spiral)

http://www.taroscopes.com/atlantis/appendices.html

http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/appendices-1.html

The great mystery slowly reveals itself.

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 16:11 | 6054153 Seek_Truth
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Yikes!

You are all over the place.

"The great mystery slowly reveals itself"

Yes, it does- but certainly not to you- based on that post!

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 14:38 | 6053966 Mister Delicious
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WRONG.

wrong from top to bottom.

top - you think revelation is about the future, when it isn't

next, you simply think you can fill in a bunch of modern states to fit in with the limited knowledge of the 1st century CE writer{s}.

UK/US are not the same country. Apart from the same language, they are quite different. And separate. Nice fudge.

nxt - you're quite mean spirited for a christian, rigid in thinking, and not especially bright.

You completely, totally, and fully misunderstand Revelation and are such a dick you dont even begin to wonder if, in fact, you should re-examine your extant beliefs.

Of course, I'm assuming that you can forget your idea that the Bible is divine or in some way mystical instead of text written by perhaps hundreds of people over centuries. Pre-scientific, often xenophobic people.

4 big myths of Book of Revelation
..................................

It’s about the end of the world

Anyone who has read the popular “Left Behind” novels or listened to pastors preaching about the “rapture” might see Revelation as a blow-by-blow preview of how the world will end.

Pagels, however, says the writer of Revelation was actually describing the way his own world ended.

She says the writer of Revelation may have been called John – the book is sometimes called “Book of the Revelation of Saint John the Divine” but he was not the disciple who accompanied Jesus. He was a devout Jew and mystic exiled on the island of Patmos, off the coast of present-day Greece.

“He would have been a very simple man in his clothes and dress,” Pagels says. “He may have gone from church to church preaching his message. He seems more like a traveling preacher or a prophet.”

The author of Revelation had experienced a catastrophe. He wrote his book not long after 60,000 Roman soldiers had stormed Jerusalem in 70 A.D., burned down its great temple and left the city in ruins after putting down an armed Jewish revolt.

For some of the earliest Jewish followers of Jesus, the destruction of Jerusalem was incomprehensible. They had expected Jesus to return “with power” and conquer Rome before inaugurating a new age. But Rome had conquered Jesus’ homeland instead.

The author of Revelation was trying to encourage the followers of Jesus at a time when their world seemed doomed. Think of the Winston Churchill radio broadcasts delivered to the British during the darkest days of World War II.

Revelation was an anti-Roman tract and a piece of war propaganda wrapped in one. The message: God would return and destroy the Romans who had destroyed Jerusalem.

“His primary target is Rome,” Pagels says of the book’s author. “He really is deeply angry and grieved at the Jewish war and what happened to his people.”

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/31/four-big-myths-about-the-book-o...

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 15:35 | 6054035 Seek_Truth
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Lots of words- signifying nothing- and demonstrating, once again, your ignorance of the subject matter.

To begin with- Revelation chapters 18 through 22 PROVE BEYOND ALL DOUBT that you are WRONG. None of the events descibed in those chapters has happened yet.

Preterist interpretations of Revelation are always based on cherry picking verses out of context.

1-Revelation is about events that have occurred in the past.

2-Revelation is about events that are occurring in the present.

3-Revelation is about events that will occur in the future.

ALL of the above 3 statements are correct.

Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome are not “modern states.”

Your beef, then, is with the UK/US being the 7th head of the Beast (out of the Sea). That is because you do not understand what is meant- The British Empire became the 7th Head of the Beast of Revelation 13 & 17. There is no question that the first 6 Heads of the Beast can be easily identified by Scripture (including Daniel Chapter 7). The 7th Head, The British Empire, now known as the UK, owns the US through the City of London. The US appears to be a power unto its own, but is not- it is a vassal state of the British Empire. There can be no doubt that the dominant Empire in the world is, as many see it- the US empire. But that is only the image, not the reality. That is why I say “UK/US.”

The rapture is not a scriptural teaching, therefore, the “left behind” series is just a bunch of “christian” buffoonery meant to bring in the $.

The Apostle John knew that the Temple would be destroyed, because Jesus had already informed His Apostles of that fact (Mark 24:2; Matthew 13:2) long before Revelation was revealed by Jesus, and written by the Apostle John. Therefore, Pagels is just another detractor looking to make a buck- and couldn’t possibly be more wrong.

 

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 14:39 | 6053967 Mister Delicious
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jersalen has 7 hills.

the talmud was composed in Babylon.

The Zionists {by which is not meant 'jews' but most *are* jewish] are a large part of the banks and MIC and huge part of the death and destruction in the ME

Use your head.

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 15:51 | 6054064 Seek_Truth
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Jerusalem, Rome, and many other sites in the world have 7 hills. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_claimed_to_be_built_on_seven...

It is people like you that can't see that the interpretation of prophecy is metaphorical, unless it can't be interpreted metaphorically. That is one of the basic tenets of all Scriptural prophecy.

The Talmud, which is the antithesis of the Torah, had its beginnings before Babylon, and continued development after the Babylonian captivity, into 200 AD. During the time of Jesus the oral law (Talmud) came to be revered so highly that it was said to go back to Moses himself and to have been transmitted over the centuries orally, paralleling the written law that also derived from him. This is exactly what the Pharisees believed, and also it was these "traditions" that Jesus condemned (Mark 7:8).

http://www.bible-history.com/pharisees/PHARISEESTradition.htm

If you were an intelligent being- you would have checked my post history before telling me things about Zionists that I already know, and have made known, here on ZH.

But since you brought the subject of Zionists up- they are not the only ones to be singled out. There are many non-zionists that are to blame for many of the ills and evils of this world, as well. But there is hardly any acknowlegement of that fact here on ZH, unfortunately.

 

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 18:00 | 6052140 steveo77
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Check out this poor little seal….so sick of the ocean pollution, this is the second time he was crawling on the streets in a sad attempt to leave the ocean. Crawling on the street. http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2015/05/shark-attacks-and-deaths-in...

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 19:00 | 6052307 Seek_Truth
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"The second angel poured out his bowl on the sea, and it turned into blood like that of a dead person, and every living thing in the sea died." - Revelation 16:3

It’s_not_just_sea lions_that_are_dying_and_having_difficulty_staying_alive.

 

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 19:56 | 6052168 Renfield
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<<This was little short of treason. As Norman’s compatriots were enlisting in the military, preparing to risk their lives for the freedoms and luxury that he enjoyed, as his country prepared for the war against the Nazis that all knew was coming, Norman blithely announced that his primary loyalty was not to Britain, but to a hyper-privileged, international bank that was not even a decade old. The mistake of Malik, the director of the National Bank of Czechoslovakia, was to believe that either Norman, Beyen, or indeed any of the BIS management could conceive of any moral or political dimension to their decisions. The world’s most powerful international bankers were not only unwilling to obstruct the Nazi seizure of Czechoslovak— or Austrian— assets. They simply could not conceive of any reason why they should do so. As long as the formalities were observed, the necessary papers were stamped and the gold was re-assigned. Norman’s precious independence for both the Bank of England and the BIS had been bought at a high price— in mountains of gold ingots to pay for steel to build bombs that would soon rain down on London.>>

An "independent" Central Bank must necessarily mean that the monies of a nation are in the hands of a few private asset owners, who then control the nation's economy to their benefit. THERE IS NO OTHER POSSIBILITY. A Central Bank is either publicly owned, or privately. Even government issuance of money is preferable to this -- and government control of money is NOT a good idea, either. DOWN WITH EVERY CENTRAL BANK, everywhere. A Central Bank is the kiss of death to a free economy.

I am also not in favour of a Government Treasury department being the sole issuer of currency -- although they should be able to issue their own -- because this ties the nation's economy to the bad, self-serving, corrupt interests of a few people in government who will use it for their benefit. But since the people have (a little) more control over who they are, even this is preferable to an 'independent' Central Bank. That people EVER fell for this central banking idea speaks to their lack of understanding of how money works.

<<... the affair had highlighted the deeply unsettling connections between the Bank of England, the British government, and the BIS. There was a good deal of cross-party feeling in Britain, reported the New York Times, that “the Bank for International Settlements should be liquidated before it furnished any more sinews of war to Germany, and that the odd relationship between the British government and the Bank of England should be re-examined without delay.”  The New York Times then was able to assume that its readers would understand a classical allusion. The word “sinews” was a reference to an epithet of Cicero, the Roman philosopher, who had said, “The sinews of war are infinite money.” Cicero’s observation was as prescient then as during the late 1930s. But those who wanted the BIS to be liquidated were too late. Thanks to the BIS the “sinews of war” and the flow of near-infinite money were about to be immeasurably strengthened.>>

War is a Banker's legacy. War is extremely expensive, and tends to become quickly unaffordable for the sociopaths who run it, absent a Central Bank printing funny money. To the extent that a 'king' (government) must loot 'their people' to afford a war, that war will be self-limiting and will usually tend toward defensive purposes. When Central Banks are abolished by law and their owners tried for the treasonous non-citizens they are, there will be an end to the gigantic scale of today's wars of aggression. As for privately funded tribal conflicts, we shall no doubt continue with those but they are far preferable to these treasonous Bankers looting entire nations today.

No country wants to be first? When an asset-backed currency is introduced, the BIS Central Banking system will be at its weakest in a century. Many governments and their national treasuries -- and yes, some Central Banks -- will be carrying on trade using all sorts of assets as collateral. It is time for localities to stop being afraid of default and breaking odious and illegal trade contracts, even at the cost of preparing for attack, and to seek out allies even if non-traditional, that do NOT support this model. The collapse will be our next best chance to rid ourselves of these centralised governments corrupted by Central Banks, by seceding from them in smaller groups and within those groups, ensuring free flow of goods AND currencies in which the government or Treasury currency would be one of many.

Over the next decades, each locality must make its own decisions concerning what it can afford to do for itself in this, but anyone who stays tied to a Central Banking government is enslaving themselves to a doomed model, in the hope of clinging to the false 'security' of the past. To prepare for this, it is important to begin discrediting our Central Banks AND their puppet governments, even if it is only in language at first, in our day to day lives with friends and family. It won't happen fast, but it can happen as we make people around us aware of exactly WHO is robbing them blind in order to fund their invasion, looting, and genocide. The first thing that must fall is Central Bank and Centralised Government 'credibility', and the rest will follow from that.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 18:16 | 6052178 Paracelsus
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No mention of Chamberlain at Munich selling out the Czechs,with French assistance,in 1938? After what happened to the Austrians,he knew what was in store for the Czechs....

Oddly enough after the St.Bart's eve massacre in France(Catherine Medici,1572?)of the Huguenots, they were the only group allowed to possess their own arsenals of weapons.An early example of the 2nd amendment....

Also,if you look at some of the German officers names of the first and second world war,you will see some odd French names.Most are from Huguenot families which fled to Germany to escape the pogrom on Protestants.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 20:16 | 6052458 Renfield
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Upvoted for educational comment.

Keep in mind this article is only an excerpt from a book. I haven't read it yet, but it may be that Chamberlain is discussed elsewhere in this book. Be interesting to hear from anyone who has read it.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 18:24 | 6052203 YHC-FTSE
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History repeats itself. Victoria Nuland's zionazis took over Ukraine last year and one of the first things that happened was the theft of Ukraine's gold. 21 tons of gold vaporized from the Ukrainian central bank vaults as soon as Vicky Nuland's psychopaths took over Kiev, then coincidentally the Netherlands suddenly managed to expatriate 122 tons of gold from the NY Fed while Germany was told to take a hike when they demanded their gold.

Thieves, liars and murderers. These three plural nouns always crop up when I read about the exploits of the neocons/zionists in the States and Israel.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 18:24 | 6052207 R19
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In other news:

CNN:
French soldier-child sex abuse claims in Central African Republic investigated
By Laura Smith-Spark and Sandrine Amiel, CNN

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 18:25 | 6052209 Dre4dwolf
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It's called a safe for a reason.

 

A vault at a bank is not a safe , its an un-safe given the state of the world today.

 

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 18:34 | 6052243 Soul Glow
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Looting gold is a Nazi past time right Federal Reserve?

[Hint hint, cough cough]

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 18:37 | 6052253 walküre
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The directors did have a choice.

Three days later a Reichsbank official was dispatched to the National Bank of Czechoslovakia and  ordered the directors, under the threat of death, to issue two orders

They could have committed suicide or taken the firing squad and prevented their signatures on the order. I guess they didn't consider that Banksters are Nazis too! Always down to the letter. Banksters follow the letter of the law unless of course it prevents them from making a profit. Then they bend the law and purposefully rewrite it in their favor. That's why banksters buy politicians as their lap monkeys.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 18:48 | 6052284 iofera
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You guys have a good day in the gold market?

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 20:41 | 6052530 Rock On Roger
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Yup sure did, got a little bit more tucked away for a rainy day.

 

Gold doesn't turn to mush when it gets rained on.

 

Squawk On

Sat, 05/02/2015 - 05:51 | 6053177 Vuke
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Iso, did you win a few pieces of paper or some digits on your screen today?  Lucky you.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 19:08 | 6052334 Pancho de Villa
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Does anyone else remember the "Brown Bottom"? 

 

He left the BOE with Stinky pants...  Heh, heh... 

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 21:38 | 6052379 Salsipuedes
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The Tower of Basel, also known as the Financial Vatican is where the 700 year old story of OCTOGON and the Money Masters should end. Fortress Alps. Smiley's kind of people. "Switzers", as described in Shakespeare's Hamlet (1603). James Bond wouldn't be caught dead skiing White Fish Montana.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF7i_pbNlUE

Their moto: "Globus non suficit." (The world is not enough.)

My moto: "This country ain't big enough for the two of us."

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 19:41 | 6052385 Bighorn_100b
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I'm fed up with gold and silver articles on ZH. We know what to do already.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 19:47 | 6052396 scaleindependent
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Exactly!

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 20:01 | 6052430 steveo77
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Shark Kills Woman in Hawaii, April 30, 2015

I did a few articles on the barrage of shark attacks in Hawaii, indicative of a highly stressed food chain.

Apex Predators in Hawaii are OUT OF CONTROL, Shark Attacks up 500% as Fukushima Radiation Rolls In

http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2015/05/shark-attacks-and-deaths-in-hawaii.html


Fri, 05/01/2015 - 20:14 | 6052453 Renfield
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Obviously, the answer is to kill all the sharks. \s

It isn't the sharks that are out of control. Nature is never under control, despite the suicidal delusions of an out-of-control human society. People had better start reining in their globalist 'owners' before they make our entire planet uninhabitable. This metastasizing fiat payment system enables a few moronic billionaires to waste entire populations of both humans and other species, and lay claim to huge swathes of common resources. Our fantasy 'money' system has lost all touch with productivity, with resource management, with finite reality. This destructive monetary system must be discredited and destroyed before it destroys all of us.

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 20:23 | 6052475 steveo77
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Shark Kills Woman in Hawaii, April 30, 2015

I did a few articles on the barrage of shark attacks in Hawaii, indicative of a highly stressed food chain.

Apex Predators in Hawaii are OUT OF CONTROL, Shark Attacks up 500% as Fukushima Radiation Rolls In

http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2015/05/shark-attacks-and-deaths-in-hawaii.html

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 21:02 | 6052579 AIIB
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Bin Laden didn't even get killed this many times!

Fri, 05/01/2015 - 21:34 | 6052660 Salsipuedes
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Everything else does pale in comparison. There is a solution. A sarcophagus the size of Manhattan. Imagine a giant bubble of lead and concrete, both over and UNDER (how far? Say one kilometer).

Cost? One quadrillion fiat or all the gold in the mountain vaults of Switzerland and, not a few, but one million good men. Triple the cost if Halliburton is involved.

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