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Who’s Crazy Now? American Psychological Association Supported Torture “At Every Critical Juncture”
While most psychologists are good people, tyrannies have always deployed corrupt psychologists to punish dissenters, and label them “crazy”.
The Nazi government substantially supported psychologists … many of whom, in turn, espoused extermination of the people they considered to be “racially and cognitively compromised”.
Soviet psychiatrists famously aided Stalin in applying fake insanity diagnoses to political dissenters. The official explanation was that no sane person would declaim the Soviet government and Communism.
And authoritarian American psychologists are eager to label anyone “taking a cynical stance toward politics, mistrusting authority, endorsing democratic practices, … and displaying an inquisitive, imaginative outlook” as worthy of a trip to the insane asylum. (Those traits may also get one labeled as a potential terrorist.) Indeed, Americans are literally being thrown in the loony bin after they question those in power.
As prominent forensic psychiatrist James Knoll – psychiatry professor at SUNY-Syracuse and director of a forensic fellowship program – writes in the Psychiatric Times:
When psychiatric science becomes co-opted by a political agenda, an unhealthy alliance may be created. It is science that will always be the host organism, to be taken over by political viruses…. [P]sychiatry may come to resemble a new organism entirely — one that serves the ends of the criminal justice system.
Indeed, American psychologists created the American program of torture which was specially-crafted to produce false confessions to justify U.S. military policy.
Ironically – given the background of psychologists deployed by Stalin to crush dissent – the type of torture used by the CIA was a Communist torture technique . And see this. (In reality, we’ve known for 2,000 years that all torture produces false confessions. And we’ve known for a very long time that torture reduces our national security.)
It wasn’t just rogue psychologists: the American Psychological Association was central to the torture program.
Pulitzer-prize winning journalist James Risen reports today in the New York Times:
The American Psychological Association secretly collaborated with the administration of President George W. Bush to bolster a legal and ethical justification for the torture of prisoners swept up in the post-Sept. 11 war on terror …
“The A.P.A. secretly coordinated with officials from the C.I.A., White House and the Department of Defense to create an A.P.A. ethics policy on national security interrogations which comported with then-classified legal guidance authorizing the C.I.A. torture program,” the report’s authors conclude.
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The involvement of health professionals in the Bush-era interrogation program was significant because it enabled the Justice Department to argue in secret opinions that the program was legal and did not constitute torture, since the interrogations were being monitored by health professionals to make sure they were safe.
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The American Psychological Association “clearly supports the role of psychologists in a way our behavioral science consultants operate,” said Dr. William Winkenwerder, then the assistant secretary of defense for health affairs, describing to reporters why the Pentagon relied more on psychologists than psychiatrists at the prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba.
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By June 2004, the Bush administration’s torture program was in trouble. The public disclosure of the images of prisoners being abused at the Abu Ghraib prison earlier that year prompted an intense debate about the way the United States was treating detainees in the global war on terror, leading to new scrutiny of the C.I.A.’s so-called enhanced interrogation program, which included sleep deprivation and waterboarding, or simulated drowning. Congress and the news media were starting to ask questions, and there were new doubts about whether the program was legal.
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In early June 2004, a senior official with the association, the nation’s largest professional organization for psychologists, issued an invitation to a carefully selected group of psychologists and behavioral scientists inside the government to a private meeting to discuss the crisis and the role of psychologists in the interrogation program.
Psychologists from the C.I.A. and other agencies met with association officials in July, and by the next year the association issued guidelines that reaffirmed that it was acceptable for its members to be involved in the interrogation program.
To emphasize their argument that the association grew too close to the interrogation program, the critics’ new report cites a 2003 email from a senior psychologist at the C.I.A. to a senior official at the psychological association. In the email, the C.I.A. psychologist appears to be confiding in the association official about the work of James Mitchell and Bruce Jessen, the private contractors who developed and helped run the enhanced interrogation program at the C.I.A.’s secret prisons around the world.
In the email, written years before the involvement of the two contractors in the interrogation program was made public, the C.I.A. psychologist explains to the association official that the contractors “are doing special things to special people in special places.”
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“In 2004 and 2005 the C.I.A. torture program was threatened from within and outside the Bush administration,” [Stephen Soldz, a clinical psychologist and professor at the Boston Graduate School of Psychoanalysis] said by email. “Like clockwork, the A.P.A. directly addressed legal threats at every critical juncture facing the senior intelligence officials at the heart of the program. In some cases the A.P.A. even allowed these same Bush officials to actually help write the association’s policies.”
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The critics frequently criticized the 2005 findings of an association committee, the Presidential Task Force on Psychological Ethics and National Security, or PENS, which concluded that it was appropriate for psychologists to remain involved with interrogations, to make sure they remained safe, legal, ethical and effective.
So psychologists created, pushed and rationalized, and then actually took part in the torture program.
Like Nazi and Soviet psychologists, these quack American psychologists have lent their hand to tyranny.
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Those good ones were all up in arms about this. Dont you remember? Ya I missed that part too.
"While most psychologists are good people,..."
They are...? By what statistically provable measure? And why do people find it necessary to 'cream-puff' before they launch on a tirade...? Is that like giving a child a kiss on the cheek before he gets a caning for misbehaviour...?
To Master of Universe: I've always wondered if there was a hidden link between
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Carl_Roberts and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish_school_shooting
and the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia.
I remember googling "Mind Control" after that happened and one of the first entries that popped up was the UPENN. It only an hour's drive away. Just a thought.
UPENN is an APA accredited school that also has accreditation for medicine. As universities go, the UofPENN is a fine upstanding Ivy League school. Yes, they are conducting "MIND CONTROL" research, but they would never admit that that was their end goal or that their Psychologists would do such a thing. Since the advent of Ivan Pavlov's Classical Conditioning in Experimental Psychology the World has fully known the dangers of human/clinical experimental research. Frankly, from what I know of Clinical Experimental Psychology, most of the universities in the World are working on human/clinical programming just like Professor Emeritus Ivan Pavlov was back in 1896. Academic Experimental Psychology is extremely DANGEROUS stuff in the wrong hands and I would say that the Central Intelligence Agency hands are those wrong hands bar none. In sum, I doubt very much that the mass murderer Amish milkman was anything but a garden variety sociopathic personality. Moreover, ethics require that I conduct all the research into that case if I want to hazard a guess as to what was wrong with that dude. I could never get his full medical files so I could never really come to any conclusion about his personality or personal psychopathology. Bottom line in terms of MIND CONTROL FALSE FLAGS is motive and modus operandi. In that regard, I sincerely doubt that UPENN had anything to do with that milkman that went postal in an Amish school house. I looked at the links you referenced and I did not notice anything weird? cheers
As one formally educated in Experimental Psychology, it must be emphasized that the _Psychiatrists_ that are sanctioned via the American Psychiatric Association have banded together to disavow what their colleagues in the American Psychological Association have been doing to (Ss) prisoners/detainees/enforced interrogation victims, via their involvement in the George Bush Torture Regime. The American Psychiatric Association, and the majority of Psychiatrists throughout the World are in complete agreement that all Psychiatrists throughout the World will never participate in any of the DofD handling of prisoners of war. All the researchers that are looking into what the American Psychological Association has been doing are correct when they assert that the American Psychological Association was salivating at the inducements offered for academic Psychologists to get involved with the Central Intelligence Agency contracts for mass interrogation research/analysis.
Professor Martin E. P. Seligman was APA President in 1998 [elected in 1997] and at that time the APA was desperate for new innovative ways to attain contracts for the burgeoning masses of PhDs they were graduating, with few if any placements rendered upon graduation. In brief, after Seligman teamed up with the Central Intelligence Agency, and the United States of America ARMY, for his Positive Psychology indoctrination of all USARMY recruits, he netted a $31 Million USD contract for the UofPEN, and the Department of Psychology at UofPEN to BRAINWASH serving USARMY Captains/Sgt/recruits/ et cetera. I, for one, fully believe that this present contract will be extended indefinitely for Seligman's Positive Psychology(tm) module of training that UofPEN operates every year with the USARMY, and the Government of the United States of America. Clearly, if an academic Psychology Professor brings in a $31 Million dollar contract to educate USARMY Captains in Positive Psychology(tm) at an APA accredited university, that university chancellor/President is going to be extremely happy with that particular professor above most others. Ethics don't seem to matter when the petro-dollars are being thought of as more important than the ethics behind the research, or the (Ss) people.
NOTE: The USARMY nickname for Professor Martin E. P. Seligman is 'Dr. Happy'.
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In reply to Master of Universe: Torture to get a confession to lies in order to stop the torture and then presenting the lies as proof and the truth for the torturers agenda covered in lies.
That sure seems like CRIMINAL behavior to me.
I agree that the entire behaviour of all that participated was criminal behaviour from the top down. One has to remember that we are dealing with an institution that defines what 'denial' is as a defense mechanism. When the American Psychological Association figures out that they are collectively in psychological denial and need to seek out the services of a Depth Psychologist like Sigmund Freud to ascertain the degree of psychological denial they are in, I will be long gone I'm sure. Institutional denial is essentially historical revisionism before the historiographers have had a chance to craft history they way their employers tell them to. Frankly, I wanted be a Clinical Psychology Historiographer, but failed to make it into York U. and their grad selection when I applied for their History of Psychology Masters/Doctoral programme in 97. Academic Experimental Psychology is a very cloistered domain of inquiry that filters out dissenters before the grad track kicks in. If one is amenable to being co-opted there is greater chance that one will be accepted into the various inner circles in the various academic cliques.
is the ethno-religious makeup of the American psychological Assn any different than those of the USSR or NAZIs?
Or are they all in the same tribe pushing the same religion ?
Yep and they are getting very close to psychological critical mass.
The shrinks that work for the state are a very dangerous lot indeed. The roll they play is key to the we know whats best crowds justifacation of controling what are thought of as norms. Tools one and all. There may be some in the private sector that might be worth a shit? But I doubt it because of how the system is set up.
They are conformist in an insane world. That right there kind of explians it best.
to take it a step further, consider the analogy between prior restraint (laws) and medications to control various psychological disorders, so that the patient my function in society, including anxiety and depression meds, and the various forms of amphetamine which were first given to military people in W2 to give them courage and stamina and create an aura of invincibility.
It saddens me that I consider the Science in psychology (the study of how humans think and make decisions) to be extremely important, and consider that there aren't enough psychologists actually doing such Science, but at the same time it appears to me that there are way too many psychologists out there doing Propaganda, Trolling, Ad Hominem Attacking, and Disinformation and Misinformation. Maybe that pays better.
I studied that soft science because I was at the tail end of the college era of study what you enjoy and just get the paper, jobs are waiting. That opened my eyes to what you point out. Alot of studies, climatology subjects for one, avoid the scientific method and are geared to prove themselves correct.
I am reading a book about the parts of the brain and psychology: "ANATOMY OF VIOLENCE". There IS real science being done, and as our scientific tools get better and better, our understanding of how the brain works and how human thought processes and decision-making processes work will hopefully get better and better. So that's, maybe, one wing of psychology, and then on the other hand, there is THE DARK SIDE, with psychologists helping the reptilians enslave, create wars, and keep up all their other psychopathic stuff. Maybe I need more words, one for the psychopath-assisting-psychologists, and another for the science guys, whose work I appreciate and whom I am rooting for.
Dup.
Spend some time with Konrad Lorenz if you are interested in violence and the nature of man. I read On Agression in college, and studied it in Viet Nam.
"Some of his views are expressed in the popular book On Aggression (tr. 1966). Here he asserts that human aggressive impulses are to a degree innate, and draws analogies between human and animal territorial behaviour. These assertions have engendered considerable controversy.
He also wrote King Solomons Ring which has received a wide and interested readership.
Dr Lorenz died in 1989."
Thanks. It's now on my reading list.
Well, there goes their federal funding...
Let me break it down for everyone. Quite simply, now that money creation is no longer attached to anything fucking real, everyone is on the dole...
it's just that a lucky few are much closer to the free money supply than other...
The fact that GW sites the APA should tell all you supporters of his out there in ZH land that he's as sacked out as they are. It seriously is funny to watch you unravel GW and to try and prove you're authentic.
It's all coming together. Ahhhhhhh
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I don't understand how George Washington could possibly detail what is manifesting with regard to the Bush Era Torture Protocols without citing what the God damned American Psychological Association is promulgating with regard to their policy framework on work with torture victims? The press release sent out yesterday highlights how the CIA, Rand Corporation, and the APA working group, manufactured their self-serving policy framework. If George Washington neglected to cite the APA policy framework he would be called incompetent by most readers on Z/H. Frankly, I fully believe that you should start drinking coffee in order to wake up in the morning before you start reading what George Washington has written for the day's news preview on Z/H. I, for one, am appreciative of GW's efforts to reveal what the APA, Rand Corp, and the CIA are doing to pull the wool over the eyes of average Americans, and others. Furthermore, I am not surprised to see that Z/H readers are down-voting you for your lack of attention to detail, Shitgum Suicide.
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Sane/insane. Good/bad. Right/wrong. Good interrogation/ bad interrogation.
All are labels/words we place on objects. We have been trained to use those labels to determine our responses. We emote when we react to labels/words without thinking. Intelligent thinking would understand that expanding the label/word's inclusiveness would logically deny any earlier conclusions in regard to the consequences of that label/word. I.e. The statement that ducks can fly and swim is accepted. If I say pigeons are ducks, I cannot logically conclude that pigeons can swim.
Psychology uses a system of definitions, aka DSM IV , or the psychologist's bible.http://allpsych.com/disorders/dsm/
Their bible was written by which "divinely/scientifically" persons? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcuhhJ1BaMk
Power corrupts. Money corrupts. http://cchroc.org/the-dsm-psychiatrys-billing-fraud-bible/
Psychology is not science. Economics is not science. Government is not science. Scientific validity is not obtained by labeling something as science.
In my humble opinion, the American Psychological Association should spend less time helping the Government rape children and more time identifying sociopaths within the police deparments.
So now you are back to torture, which was not actually torture. Don't believe me? Go ask Eric holder who admitted before a house judiciary committee that water boarding was not torture because they were not inflicting pain for the purpose of pain because we give our own special ops training on how to deal with being caught.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/181884/holder-waterboarding-proving...
This is how you do it Georgie. You actually have links that actually site the information and not something from you blog that then leads you to something that does not exist.
You're pathetic as always and you will always be a coward because you can't be honest in your debate. But I will still be here to hound you any day you wish to post your garbage.
Not Torture?
More than 25 people died in the CIA's hands in those times. I had the links and wrote a post on it years ago.
If the CIA is anything like the men in Blue of late how can you believe they limited it to water boarding? The CIA makes the Cartels and Mafia look like amateurs as they have congress and POTUS in their back pockets.
The CIA = the NAZI SS.
You did not seriously write "Gorgie" in an attempt to rebuke someone? You convinced me, but not of the thing you were trying to project.
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Unsure if you're a paid dumb troll or just a dumb troll.
He tortures the sesibilities in either case.
Psychologists have always had an inferiority complex toward their better-educated colleagues, the psychiatrists. They simply couldn't get into med school, even with a soft-gut major like psychology. So of course they jump at the cachet offered by being involved with something concerning 'national security', even though it is illegal, unethical and evil. Always back to the banality of evil. Just put a white coat on it, rub it in groupthink, and SHAZAM it is now nice and clean, dressed up as a 'policy'.
Absolutely. Psychobabblers have done considerable damage over the years when they try to overcompensate. They have managed to worm their way into social policy at every level and turn every topic into "social justice" or some other loopy agenda. Governance, medicine, education, individual and group behavior, personal responsibilty, even core family life has been affected by their craziness turned into rules and regulations.
oh how good we are in the western media, alternative included & how we do love to hide our crimes by always refering to "THE NAZIS" as a benchmark that says we werent as bad, well how about the bloody zionists who pull ALL THE STRINGS in the background. thats here the blame starts & ends.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2223831/How-Britain-tortured-Nazi-PoWs-The-horrifying-interrogation-methods-belie-proud-boast-fought-clean-war.html
made homosexual acts Normal behavoir, thus changing the definition of Normal and removing this diagnosis of mental illness from .. DSM IV.
if you do not know what DSM IV is perhaps you should not comment on this thread.
so of course torture can be twisted and turned inside out to these sell out psych's..when truth is the victim all things become insanity.
The sexual acts other people do in their own homes doesn't affect my life one bit. Except when they have children that I have to pay taxes to support.
The Nationalization and Israelification of America's Police:
http://winteractionables.com/?p=20576
"After putting up posts about it, I’ve come to discover that she is a key player and stooge in Obama’s Task Force on 21st Century Policing. The primary goal of this task force is nationalizing and a take over of local police departments. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is financing the takeover through grants for local-level anti-terrorism programs."
Good stuff Russ, not much on MSM about this. Surprise!
So maybe Baltimore is just "Spring Practice". Sad.
My cynicism meter has been pegging for quite some time. Can't help but believe that these are generated events to accomplish a goal. It's all globally, nationally and locally a police state operation to push for more police state. When I say police state, I don't mean local cops. This is all centrally planned.
Me too.
We shouldn't be surprised, psychology is another Jewish invented pseudo-science.
Calling psychology a pseudo-science is being kind. It is almost as much a science as astrology is a science. Assumptions, speculation, and guesswork are not part of the scientific process. As for the involvement of Jews, I have no comment.
Assumptions, speculation, and guesswork are not part of the scientific process...
Maybe not in the final analysis, but certainly they have a place in the initial process and in fact are the bedrock, driving force behind the scientific method.
My take on this particular report is that because the arguments presented before a tribunal were not public, we are to assume both sides argued for the same outcome. That doesn't make since, but I concede, that could've been the case.
Personally, I don't think it too terribly off to assume treating an individual with a psychological belief that his 72 virgin reward would be forfeited if he were to die at the hands of a female, shouldn’t be taken advantage of when overseeing his incarceration.
Science should be exercised to advance reason and expose irrationality, but if someone is set on being irrational, who am I to judge?
Jmo.
on torture and the British Empire.........the so-called holocaust in Germany has got nothing on the british empire.........
''Interrogation under torture was widespread. Many of the men were anally raped, using knives, broken bottles, rifle barrels, snakes and scorpions. A favourite technique was to hold a man upside down, his head in a bucket of water, while sand was rammed into his rectum with a stick. Women were gang-raped by the guards. People were mauled by dogs and electrocuted. The British devised a special tool which they used for first crushing and then ripping off testicles. They used pliers to mutilate women's breasts. They cut off inmates' ears and fingers and gouged out their eyes. They dragged people behind Land Rovers until their bodies disintegrated. Men were rolled up in barbed wire and kicked around the compound.''
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/apr/23/british-empire-crimes-ignore-atrocities
IN THE 1970'S THE APA TOOK A TEN MILLION DOLLAR CHECK FROM THE DEMOCRAT PARTY, TO CHANGE IT'S OPINION THAT HOMOSEXUALITY WAS A MENTAL DISORDER......
TEN MILLioN DOLLARS FROM THE DEMOCRAT PARTY FOR MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS" TO SAY BEING KWEER IS NORMAL!"
FUCK THE APA..... THOSE SOCIALIST LYING PIECES OF SHIT....JUST LIKE OBAMA
How about documenting that. Sounds like a steaming pile of BS.
Here ya go!
Former president of APA says organization controlled by ‘gay rights’ movement
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/former-president-of-apa-says-organizat...
PS: BoredRoom, please don't type in caps, it hurts my ears.
Apparently they only gave the millions to 60% of the members to ratified that change...maybe the other 40% were gay.
Huge numbers of shrinks were/are gay ,, they studied psych to understand why they were screwed up... in 1973 the APA was threatened by newly formed pro-gay groups and was fearful of being smeared and boycotted... I don't know of any "payoff" but the groups threatening them were democRAT front groups from San Fran Sicko... http://www.psychiatricnews.org/pnews/98-07-17/dsm.html ,, NARTH has it right.. http://www.narth.org/docs/1995papers/johnson.html
What a bunch of tripe.
Why was homosexuality ever on the list of psychiatric disorders in the first place?
How can something that has consistently been a part of human sexual orientation for as long as we have records be a psychiatric disorder? I have no idea what the true % is, but it seems that at least 5% are homosexual. Is being left handed a psyciatric disorder? How about not liking sweets? Or being turned off by obesity?