A jury Monday found a couple guilty of having sex on Bradenton Beach after only 15 minutes of deliberation.
The convictions carry a maximum prison sentence of 15 years.
Both Caballero and Alvarez will now have to register as sex offenders.
Ronald Kurpiers, defense attorney for the couple, said his clients were “devastated,” by the verdict.
Though Dafonseca hinted that they’d be speaking with the judge about whether or not 15 years was appropriate for Caballero, Kurpiers said the judge would have no discretion.
“That’s what he’ll get,” Kurpiers said.
– From the Miami Herald article: Couple Found Guilty of Having Sex on Florida Beach
This is what “justice” looks like in the Oligarch States of America. If you’re a pleb who gets caught having consensual sex on the beach, you’re immediately convicted and face up to 15 years in the gulag. Meanwhile, if you’re a banking executive responsible for crashing the global economy, you’re rewarded with trillions in taxpayer bailouts and backstops and given free reign to continue your crime spree. Criminal charges are never considered, despite the extreme negative impact your actions have on society at large, and you’re always given a slap on the wrist via deferred prosecution agreements, or DPAs. Don’t believe me? Let’s look at an excerpt from last year’s post titled, The U.S. Department of Justice Handles Banker Criminals Like Juvenile Offenders…Literally:
These agreements were created 100 years ago to give juvenile defendants and first-time offenders a chance to for rehabilitate themselves. Only in the last 20 years have DPAs migrated to the field of corporate criminals, treating them like kids who’ve just gone down a bad path in life.
The Justice Department is leaning on these toothless agreements more and more. Of the DoJ’s 283 deferred prosecution agreements since 2000, half have come since 2010, Reilly found in a working paper for BYU Law Review.
Why has the DoJ been so keen on deferred prosecution since 2010? It coincides exactly with investigations into the 2008 financial crisis.
With that in mind, let’s take a look at what 40-year old Jose Caballero faces in Florida for “sex on the beach.” From the Miami Herald:
A jury Monday found a couple guilty of having sex on Bradenton Beach after only 15 minutes of deliberation.
The convictions carry a maximum prison sentence of 15 years.
Jose Caballero, 40, and Elissa Alvarez, 20, were charged with two counts each of lewd and lascivious behavior for having sex on a public beach on July 20, 2014.
Video played in the courtroom during the 1- 1/2-day-long trial showed Alvarez moving on top of Caballero in a sexual manner in broad daylight. Witnesses testified that a 3-year-old girl saw them.
Both Caballero and Alvarez will now have to register as sex offenders.
The state will ask for jail time for Alvarez and prison time for Caballero. Dafonseca said due to Caballero being out of prison less than three years before committing another felony, he’s looking at serving the maximum time of 15 years.
Ronald Kurpiers, defense attorney for the couple, said his clients were “devastated,” by the verdict. Though Dafonseca hinted that they’d be speaking with the judge about whether or not 15 years was appropriate for Caballero, Kurpiers said the judge would have no discretion.
“That’s what he’ll get,” Kurpiers said.
Ed Brodsky, elected state attorney for the 16th judicial district, joined Defonseca in prosecuting the case. When asked why the case was an important one to the state attorney, Dafonseca said it was important that the community knew what wouldn’t be tolerated on public beaches.
“We’re dealing with basically tourists, that came from Brandon and Riverview and West Virginia, and they’re here on the beaches of Manatee County, our public beaches,” Dafonseca said, referring to the witnesses. “So you want to make sure that this isn’t something that just goes by the wayside. And that it is well known to the community, what will be tolerated and what won’t be.”
So this is where Florida draws the line, how brave! In reality, Florida is known for tolerating and encouraging some of the most statist behavior in America, which is why the state is so often highlighted on this site. Recall:
Girl Gang Raped during Spring Break in Florida as Crowds Stand Around and Do Nothing to Stop It
Protecting and Serving – Florida Police Raid 90-Year-Old Woman’s Home; Find No Drugs but Wreck Home
90-Year-Old WW2 Veteran and Two Clergymen Face 60 Days in Jail for Feeding the Homeless in Florida
Florida Cop Rapes 20-Year Old Woman at Gunpoint While on Duty
I could go on, but let’s go back to the Miami Herald.
Family members of the couple defended the two outside the courthouse, saying the crime did not deserve this kind of attention.
“He’s a great person,” said Caballero’s mother of her son, declining to give her name. “There are other things out there we need to worry about, and they’re still loose, people who have done worse stuff.”
Indeed.
This story demonstrates how completely and totally broken the U.S. justice system is. Should this couple have been having sex in public and in broad daylight? Absolutely not. Should there be some sort of punishment? Absolutely.
That said, the punishment should fit the crime in a just civilization, and 15 years behind bars for public sex is more akin to what you’d expect in Saudi Arabia. It’s particularly appalling when compared with the license to commit fraud and steal, which politically connected oligarchs have been granted. After all, who was really harmed by this couple’s act? Sure, some tourists may have had their day temporarily ruined or inconvenienced. A three-year-old girl may have seen something, but would probably have no way of understanding what it was. On the other hand, criminal bankers have demonstrably ruined the lives of hundreds or millions, if not billions, of people across the globe. Yet not a single TBTF executive has been prosecuted. They were bailed out instead.
Meanwhile, what about the pastor who faces only four months for molesting a little girl. Yes, you read that right. Our society is so completely fucked up, that two people irresponsibly making love in public will have their lives ruined, while a religious authority caught molesting a little girl receives a slap on the wrist. From RawStory:
A northern California pastor will serve no more than four months in jail for molesting a 9-year-old girl multiple times.
Venije Singkoh, a pastor at churches in San Francisco and Concord who also held services at his Daly City home, pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor count of child sexual annoyance.
He had initially been charged with three felony counts of child molestation after investigators said he held the girl on his lap and kissing her inappropriately.
The girl told her mother and father that the 70-year-old Singkoh used his tongue while kissing her, and the family called a church meeting to confront the pastor.
Examples of the criminal application of “justice” is an everyday occurrence in America today. I’ve outlined too many examples to list them all, but here are a few:
The U.S. Department of Justice Handles Banker Criminals Like Juvenile Offenders…Literally
Don't be ridiculous. It's well known the US was the most prudish country in the world. What did you expect from its laws? Just because things have changed a bit (for the worse in general), don't expect the laws to catch up anytime soon.
I'm not saying there isn't a problem with how things have developed, but this instance has almost nothing to do with it (except for the idiot attorney making ridiculous statements, rather than keeping his mouth shut as this was clearly an unfortunate case of previous convict getting hammered)
From what I can tell, the 40 year old was so stupid, he didn't take a deal because he couldn't believe that he would be found guilty. That the jury took a whole 15 minutes tells me as much as to his reasoning capacity.
Damn it, why is it every single one of these cases is about formerly indicted drug dealers?? I don't care what happens to them. Take this shit out of the news.
Wild-assed guess...
The prison that the judge and prosecutor are associated with is private.
"THE LAND OF THE FREE".. Haha..
What can I say? Great fun to be had on the beach so.. come over to Europe if you wanna have fun...
Here in Germany, the beaches have sign ''clothed and unclothed'' sections. Very seldom see anyone on the clothed side.
In fact you get funny stares if you are wearing a bathing suit.
I did that once with a big bust girl named Helen. She scratched the shit out of my back too, my mate had warned me she does that, and I paid no attention, so when in the moment you don't want to stop and say what the fuck are you doing? So you end up with these racing stripes down your rib cage. Blokes only screwed Helen once, no one ever went back. My other mate had the same thing happen bout six months later, but I had warned him, so he figured the solution was have her on top, then you could rip a nipple if she tried to scratch your chest hair out.
Relationships are so complex.
Nipples for chest hair,
A barter so unfair.
http://www.restaurantsupply.com/san-jamar-pbs301-s?gclid=CjwKEAjw96aqBRD...^20528371936-sku^70536-adType^PLA-device^c-adid^56714007913
A pair of those and you're back in business.
Life's a beach ......and then you marry one.
"Witnesses testified that a 3-year-old girl saw them."
There's the excuse. Think of the children.
of course children do start, at a certain age, to think that there is a freaking conspiracy against them, mired to keep them in the dark and ignorant
and nearly all adults... "Them", of course, are into this, against the new generation
How to educate kids about sex is a hairy topic that's been debated for many years. One London Council (whacko-loony-left Harringey I think) decided to provide simulated lessons to kids of 14+ on how "to make love" etc. This included simulated performances of two boys having anal sex. So one boy lay on the ground with his legs spreadeagled whilst the other lay on top screwing him. I believe that one of the pedos in central gov had this education program stopped, proably because Harringey refused to let him take part.
All of which leads to an unsustainable doctor visit picked by the tax payer, we have sinners for all kinds o reasons.
Wait until your sleeping room gets oberserved by the deep state and your child catches you in the act and you get 15 years in prison too.
And teach your parents well.
She would see more sex on most billboards that were advertising a designer fragrance.
In America its okay to push guns,violence and love of war and super heroes but heaven forbid they see human beings have sex. Wierd people.
"In America its okay to push guns,violence and love of war..."
You are a moron.
We like to keep him around as a bad example not to emulate.
It hasn't been very successful.
Shovelhead=typical shit for brains Americunt .
The United States of Injustice
So 2 people have consentual sex on the beach but only the *man* goes to jail? US is already the most gynocentric state in the world - hate to see what happens if Hillary gets in.
Oh yeah, one more thing...
I think there was a similar case in Dubai in 2008
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7673046.stm
They were fined but had their 3 month sentences suspended. Remember those extreme muslims!
What the actual fuck, Saudi Arabia... I mean US of A
Glad the wife and I didn't get caught on Boca Grande or Venice FL
And I've a few "tails" to tell about Englewood Beach in my youth.
I like the description " were charged with two counts each of lewd and lascivious behavior for having sex on a public beach "
It only applies to a crime with no victims invented by sexually repressed , buble bashing morons who passed the law .....
At times i understand why murder is committed .
It's a F' ing joke, the system is rigged, God help you if you are one of the 99%.
Peasants: Do not desecrate the King's beach.
"A jury Monday found a couple guilty of having sex on Bradenton Beach after only 15 minutes of deliberation."
Wow, usually it takes me more than 15 minutes of deliberation before I have sex on the beach....
That's why it was a felony - premeditated.
Did these peole cause a harm or loss to others?
Governments' statutes need to be ripped down.
Revert to fundamental law.
Justice or "Just Us"?
Ask Holder.
this is the same state that prosecuted a couple having sex in their own apartment because they left a window open and someone filmed them, without the couple knowing they were being filmed through a window. the apartment was poolside in an apartment complex. the couple was charged with public indecency. the peeping tom was not charged.
Depends on who gets F***ED
How is it they have to register as sex offenders when no one was sexually assaulted? Florida is beyond fucked up.
They did it infront of a 3 year old on a crowded beach.... They re-enacted that scene from that Crank movie.
Let me get this straight... He was 40 and just out of jail and lands himself a 20 year old girlfriend... Obama said it isn't fair, put him in jail. We can't have people with more mojo than him.
I think the conviction may be about the age difference. Just guessing here but I bet some of the jururs where offended by a 40 yr old guy on top of a girl that is young enough to be his daughter. I know this just from going out to dinner with my wife who is 16 yrs younger than me, she is 33(but looks like she is 20). I get the dirty looks most times when we go to eat or out shopping.
I bet the dirty looks are mostly from over weight women
Yep...the guys just usually stare at her.
i like to think they are jealous. i am the classic not so good looking guy with a beautiful young wife. she still turns heads at 48. when she was younger i knew the guys with the fat ugly wives were drooling over my wife and looking at me and thinking, wtf.
It's reasons like this situtation, that make me hate going out into the Matrix amongst the chattle fodder.
at least when Wall Street had sex with Ameica, they had the decency to use the media to cover it up.
huh? that's just wrong
foregive me for the spelling???
This kind of thing surely would not happen on a clothing optional beach.
that three year old girl watches more degenerate stuff on TV every day than what those two people were doing.
These are not the thugs you're looking for...
If it had been gay sex, there would have been a fucking statue erected to mark the spot. Just sayin
DuPont convicted of raping his kids, no prison because the adjustment from riches to rags would be too difficult.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/02/justice/delaware-du-pont-rape-case/
or
Epstein, an investment banker, pleaded guilty some years ago in Florida to a state charge of prostitution solicitation, but there were no federal charges after he and authorities signed a non-prosecution agreement.
subsequently
A Florida judge denied a motion by two women to join a lawsuit against Prince Andrew and a prominent U.S. lawyer that alleged underage sex crimes.
Lawyer Alan Dershowitz was accused of having sex with minors with help from billionaire Jeffrey Epstein.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/04/07/us/dershowitz-sex-allegation/index.htm...
What is wrong with the people of that jury?
Not one jury member with any sense of justice or "balance of the scales"? To agree to find a guilty verdict with this unjust and corrupt justice system and potential sentence. These two are not sex offenders, they are just dumb asses at the very worst. As other have stated herein: Community Service and time served is enough. Being branded a "sex offender" for life and having to serve jail time is what would be truly criminal.
Hell why not just take then out to the public square and castrate them? Then behead them, like the U.S. ZOGs good buddies in Saudi?
No victim, no crime.
Special interests, the MIC, and Financial Corporations can destroy enire societies and invade sovereign nations, then more often than not (99.9%), go off free to do it some more.
One more thought, I would bet if this were a same sex couple tried under the same conditions, you can bet the LGBT rights activists would be parading out in front of the court house, while politicians made speeches about rights in the gay community. I an not a homophobe, nor am I anti-LGBT, just making a point that special interests with a political agenda seem to attract more justice in a corrupt unjust system.
Crime fighting in Florida:
police arrived to a school in Manatee County, FL after they were called to investigate two 7-year-olds who kissed “on the lips.” The cops are being asked to investigate whether the act by the elementary school students was enough to be called “ lewd and lascivious” behavior .
http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/national/cops-called-school-after-two-7-...
Gotta get them in "the system" early. Take away their future right to vote and own firearms.
What about the MILLIONS of proletariat vermin scum who lied about their incomes on their liar-mortgages to get the NO-downpayment absurdly-low interest rate mortgages that clinton and bush promoted thru the Community Reinvestment Act
and who then defaulted on those mortgages in the MILLIONS
and ruined the communities, equity and finances of their neighbors
who DID make down payments
who did NOT lie about their incomes
who DID keep up with their mortgage payments ????????
ALL of these liar parasite proletariat vermin scum committed a federal crime, yet
NOT ONE HAS BEEN PROSECUTED.
WHY NOT ???????????
Exactly. There are definitely oligarchical elements to our government but lets not pretend a lot of these people and policies weren't directly and indirectly voted for. Elected officials are only as good as the people voting for them.
15 years for that? You get less for rape. Fucked up!
This is what happens when ignorant juries enforce bullshit laws.
Nullify, nullify, nullify.