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Israeli Soldiers Describe How They "Shot Innocent Civilians Because They Were Bored"
On July 12 of 2014 we reported that "after conducting countless sorties and bombing raids aimed at Hamas operatives in Gaza during the fifth day of Operation Protective Edge, but resulting in well over a hundred innocent civilian deaths in the past week, Israel, realizing it is not generating any brownie points with the international "humanitarian" media, finally did what it had threatened to do over the last few days - launch a ground assault."
The ground assault promptly led to a mini-war in the Gaza Strip that left more than 2,100 Palestinians dead, of which 80% civilians, and reduced vast areas to rubble: a "war" which many speculated was a predetermined massacre by highly skilled, trained, and ethically drained Israeli soldiers who used civilians for target practice.
Yesterday we got confirmation of that when a group of Israeli veterans released what the WaPo describes as "sobering testimony from fellow soldiers that suggests permissive rules of engagement coupled with indiscriminate artillery fire contributed to the mass destruction and high numbers of civilian casualties in the coastal enclave."
In a 242-page report titled "This is How We Fought in Gaza 2014" which was accompanied by videotaped confessions that aired on Israeli TV, the organization of active and reserve duty soldiers, called Breaking the Silence, gathered testimonies from more than 60 enlisted men and officers who served in Gaza during Operation Protective Edge.
What they described was nothing short of mass butchery of civilians and a flaunting of the Fourth Geneva Convention: among the actions described by the soldiers are "reducing Gaza neighborhoods to sand, firing artillery at random houses to avenge fallen comrades, shooting at innocent civilians because they were bored and watching armed drones attack a pair of women talking on cellphones because they were assumed to be Hamas scouts."
According to the Washington Post, the director of the group, Yuli Novak, called the rules of engagement in the offensive “the most permissive” it has seen and amounted to an “ethical failure . . . from the top of the chain of command.” Novak called for an independent investigation.
Some more details from the narrative that may have been fit for a barbaric middle-age crusade but has no place in our "civilized" times:
The soldiers said they were told by commanders to view all Palestinians in the combat zones as a potential threat, whether they brandished weapons or not. Individuals spotted in windows and rooftops — especially if they were speaking on cellphones — were often considered scouts and could be shot.
A first sergeant serving in the Mechanized Infantry in Gaza told the group, “If we don’t see someone waving a white flag, screaming, ‘I give up’ or something — then he’s a threat and there’s authorization to open fire.”
The Israeli army, the IDF, promptly tried to downplay the claims stating that the testimonies in the report are anonymous and impossible to independently verify. The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) declined to address details in the report and said that Breaking the Silence “does not provide IDF with any proof of their claims.”
“This pattern of collecting evidence over an extended period of time and refusing to share it with the IDF in a manner which would allow a proper response, and if required, investigation, indicates that contrary to their claims this organization does not act with the intention of correcting any wrongdoings they allegedly uncovered,” the Israeli military stated.
Just like in the case of Edward Snowden, the natural response was to attack the messenger: members of Breaking the Silence are viewed by many Israelis as "anti-military", which it appears is a bad thing.
The group says its mission is to tell the Israeli public what the IDF hides and what serving in the occupied West Bank and in wars in Gaza and Lebanon is really like. After graduating from high school, all Israeli men and women — except those who get deferments because of religious study or for medical reasons — must serve in the military.
Develop a conscience, however, is clearly frowned upon.
In an interview with The Washington Post, a young tank gunner whose testimony is included in the report described how he and others fired cannon and machine gun bursts at random travelers on a main Gaza highway simply because they were bored and wanted to prove how good their aim was.
“I am ashamed of this,” said the 21-year-old, who served in a Hamas hot spot near the town of Al Bureij in central Gaza.
The gunner said he fired his Browning machine gun at a man pedaling a bicycle but missed because of the distance.
“War crime is a big word,” he said in an interview at a Tel Aviv apartment Sunday. “I didn’t rape and kill anybody, but yeah, I shot at random civilian targets sometimes, just for fun, so yeah.”
The same soldier said a friend in his unit was killed by shrapnel to the neck from a Palestinian mortar round and described how a burst of small-arms fire once breezed by his head.
Yehuda Shaul of Breaking the Silence conceded that Gaza was a dangerous,
chaotic landscape for Israeli troops. But he said the military had
contributed to needless death and destruction with “a guiding military
principle of minimum risk to our forces, even at the cost of harming
innocent civilians.”
In other words, all out, brutal war, without the pleasantries of sparing civilians - a war passed on by countless generations, and in which both sides have no interest in taking the first step to end. Which is why it never will.
Below is a sampling of the soldiers' quotes explaining how they fought in Gaza:
- "If you shoot someone in Gaza it ?s cool, no big deal"
- "The lives of our soldiers come before the lives of enemy civilians"
- "Rules of engagement were, in effect, to shoot to kill upon any identification"
- "The instructions are to shoot right away… Be they armed or unarmed, no matter what"
- "The civilian was laying there, writhing in pain"
- "I really, really wanted to shoot her in the knees"
- "We expect a high level of harm to civilians"
- "Go ahead - his wife and kid are in the car too? Not the end of the world"
- "People that look at you from the window of a house, to put it mildly, won ?t look anymore"
- "We want to make a big boom before the ceasefire"
- "They were fired at - so of course, they must have been terrorists…"
- "Lots of innocent people were hurt in that incident, lots"
- "What the hell, why did you have to shoot him again?"
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God's Chosen People
"the natural response was to attack the messenger" - Quel Surprise
We ran out of good stories to tell, so we peppered 'em with some white phosphorous....
Ha Ha Ha!
It's funny, 'cause Jews are good.
Ignorant people (mostly purposely misinformed American's) carry on about radical Muslims (which they should because it was created by CIA Operation Cyclone) but one must always remember that the Zionist are much much worse. They've created a concentration camp (Palestine) that rivals Nazi's camps. Justice will come and it will be most righteous.
Fawk Israel... bunch of scumbags...
The IDF fights to win. They know they will only lose once.
Take away their billion dollar allowance and see what happens to them...
I'm All for that, too.
But my reason might be different than yours.
Removing the only leverage the world holds over them means they'll abandon any last semblance of following any international law. You do know west bank Palestinians have more rights, money and economic freedom ( despite 'apartheid') than their Palestinian brothers and sisters in Jordan, Syria or Iraq, right? Why is that?
Leaving Israel by itself would finally let them have all the land between those two rivers.
I'm actually Jewish by way of maternal ancestry (not religion or orthodoxy) and I submit that Israel has lost any and all claim to moral high ground (it's
actually morally bankrupt).
England had no right to carve out other peoples' lands in the middle east, arbitrarily, and cede such land to "Israelis" (a fictional, prefabricated term).
Israel was born of sin.
And modern day "Israelis" are ultimate hypocrites as they constantly remind anyone & everyone about the historical injustices they suffered while they currently brutalize Palestinians.
I wish it hadn't been created the way it was, too.
The process of buying property from people who wanted to sell it was working fine. But the ships full of starving war refugees that England and the USA kept on the boats meant those world powers had a choice, let them repatriate in the world powers or in their ancestral homeland.
Letting them move to England or America would have given a stronger opportunity for survivors to highlight American collusion with Germans and the western powers starving women and children to death on the refugee boats.
The fact the mutinous irgun had to be put down by the idf may lend credence to your perspective but it lends credence to mine, too. The idf didn't want armed terrorists in its boarders it protected. If Israel were evil they wouldn't have opened fire on their brothers. They'd have given them bigger guns. I'm not a biblical literalist nor a blind supporter of any government.
I just listen to what y'all say and wonder why Israel isn't larger, it's enemies weaker and it's allies under more control given the power attributed to Jews by y'all. It's almost like they're just humans...
Hmmmmm....one question: Were all those guys named John Douchebag-Fuck-Face Kerry?
Just sayin'...
Don't fall for all the written bullshit, "folks". The Jew propaganda level is on super-quadruple-high-bullshit level these days...times 10. It's like the whole world has gone Mugwump/Hitler at the same fucking time. WTF? Give it a fucking rest.
And I'm Irish (sorry about the rest of ya who aren't as fortunate. HA!)...so piss off and have a fucking beer and a shot 'o whiskey, on me! ;-)
I have Irish heritage, too. I have the ultimate victim complex. The British starved my ancestors and relatives and let plenty die needlessly in camps while their forefathers starved my Irish ancestors and relatives by exporting food during a famine.
But as long as someone isn't pulling a trigger at me, I'm going to stand tall against this world and not claim victim hood. You don't see me making excuses for Israel on this site. Just trying to provide my prospective.
Britain imported grain from the US to feed people in Ireland suffering from potato blight imported from US.......they repealed The Corn Laws in 1846 to permit imports and ruined the farmers by removing protection. My Irish ancestors left too but they had descendants who know history based on fact
well for one, you're fucking lucky you're Irish...just because...there are no greater people on this planet of Earth in the fucking universe, because I say so. ;-)
And for two...if you want to remain Irish, then you better drop whatever that fucking thing is you call a "victim complex", because I've never heard of such a fucking thing, nor has any other true Irishman.
And another thing...
An Irishman is never drunk if he can hold on to one blade of grass and never fall off the face of the Earth.
;-)
Now take your drink!!!
So drop that victim bullshit. That's for pussies and libtards...especially the black ones. ;-)
I'm thinking of getting a tattoo of the Blarney Stone on my ass just 4 the yuks.
Irish are fighters not victims. If you have a victim complex you've been hypnotized by the multi-culti crybabies always trying to get even and asking the rest of us to flip the bill.
Ever since England was taken over by the Rothschilds after murdering King Charles because he refused to be their pawn, Ireland was just the grocery store to feed the British army and navy as they were sent to do the Rothschild's bidding. They were cannon fodder. When the potato disease hit Ireland the abundant harvests of many other crops continued to be collected and exported right past the starving population. You can thank the Rothschilds and their perverted friends for that.
The sooner they get booted out of England the better. And for all the trouble that their nest The City has brought to England and the world, the Brits need to fix it the way the Romans fixed Carthage.
Hear, hear!
I salute your honesty and courage. Tis.
"England had no right to carve out other peoples' lands in the middle east"
But it (along with Portugal, France, Spain, etc.) did have such a right in the New World? Asia? Africa?
Outside Europe, aside from Russia, Japan* and I believe Thailand, which modern nation-states aren't colonial successor-states?
*Which is basically an autonomous protectorate or what-have-you
No.
But that's an illogical argument - dare I say irrelevant, too.
England and many past colonial powers did all manner off things that were wrong, immoral, unjust, etc.
And for the record, for all this talk of "terrorism," Jews essentially intentionally targeted British civilians for death & serious injury in British ruled territories that some now recognize as Israel (look up bombing of King David Hotel, and who specifically carried it out, as just one example).
So, it seems that one person's "terrorist" is, in fact, another person's "freedom fighter," after all (even if the same "freedom fighter" one day becomes Israel's Prime Minister and rails against "terrorism").
idf fights to win
hezbollah are not trained to usa,british yiddish standards
and yet the hez do not seem to lose much.
either the hez is good or the idf have got lazy killing woman and children.
a disconnect in the electricull circuit tree of life and faulty cern no doubt the energies from saturn of the negative charge are channeled and harvested by the caananite.
one could say zionist human energy harvest projects once activated are perpetual.
was it not the rabbi that gave us hollywood land and much tv all emotion all feeling plenty of hate perfect programming.
50herz or 60 pick yer poison
tesla picked up signals from saturn space 120 years ago and was laughed at.
and todat we have something called ether net dial up signals weird and old anyone heard saturn ring songs.
not quite tavistock beatles but just as discordant as beatles number 9
rabbit Tony, rabbit. Stick around awhile.
I've heard it & it's creepy.
Israel is an exceptional racist outlaw regime that operates above all laws, and they do it with complete impunity. Go figure.
“Our race is the Master Race.
We are divine gods on this planet.
We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects.
In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best.
Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron.
The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves.”
Menaheim Begin, 6th Prime Minister of Israel. speech to the Knesset (24 June 1982), quoted in “Begin and the ‘Beasts” Amnon Kapeliouk, in The New Statesman (25 June 1982);
Wow... anti Jew fly paper here at Zero Hedge. There is a saying... what is it? Oh yeah... War is Hell.
No mention here of why Israel attached Gaza. Anyone remember? Hmmm. Don't guess it would matter to any of the crazed anti-jewish nut jobs on this site, but let me remind any sane pesone the reason. It was because the Palestinians were randomly firing THOUSANDS of rockets with explosive warheads at population centers. Isreali restraint was remarkable.
And you must continue your logic! Why are they firing rockets at Israel, a nuke nation?
Hey Asshat.
Just because we have seen tranny bruce jenner and race wars doesnt make us racist or homophob...it makes us observant.
Is it now sexist to call Jenner by his male name?
Dumb asses with their strawmen arguements.
Fuck Israel
RIPS
Ahh, yes. The old hasbara "start the narrative where it best suits your propaganda" trick.
And the reason why Hamas was firing those rockets into Israel?
Israel declared Hamas responsible for the kidnapping and murder of 3 Israeli teenagers despite no evidence, denials by Hamas, and a torture induced confession.
A palestinian teenager was subsequently kidnapped and burned alive by Israeli (illegal) settlers, an attempted abduction of a 7 year old boy, and the assault of a 15 year old Arab-American citizen by the IDF.
The thousands of rockets you point to killed how many Israeli civilians? 5.
"Israeli restraint was remarkable"!? Hahahaha! Israels excessive use of inproprotional force and is well documented.
Does the term "collective punishment" ring any bells?
Like shooting fish in a barrel...
CowardSirRobin,
If you can use the lame excuse "War is Hell..." to excuse the obvious crimes and atrocities that Israel committed, as documented above, then others can use the same lame excuse.
So Germans can tell the Jews the same thing when they cry about the Holocaust. "war is hell... war is hell"
You can't have it both ways, otherwise you become a flaming war commiting atrocity loving hypocrite.
Right?
So the CIA false flagged the Barbary wars? Or did they just rewrite history to invent the marine' s fight song?
Did the cia also write the Qur'an and ethnically cleanse the Arabian peninsula of Jews and Christians, pagans and yazidi?
war crimes trials begin --
read all about it here:
http://www.provokethegoyim.blogspot.co.il/2015/05/israelis-finally-indicted-for-war-crimes.html
This is strikingly different from the peasprize winner's chief export and largest contribution to GDP.
Don't tell Drudge!
Drudge is a Ziotard Republitard stooge.
They rejected THE messiah; do you also reject Jesus Christ? If so, then how are you any different? Just saying. Glad to be reconciled to my Creator who is Jesus. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMlv21zGARM
GuerZionica?
"God's Chosen People"
That line tells you exactly who the authors of the sequel were.
The jews invented christianity and on its back they have ridden to the top.
Wasn't it the Flavian monarchs that did that?
Just so. Christianity allowed them to spread their power across all of the western world.
The moral to that story is if you are a bronze age nomad wandering around aimlessly, write a religion, make sure to give yourself a homeland and most importantly make yourself the one chosen by the god.
Nothings changed, it's all in the fine print.
Hijo le... When I get bored, I usually just find a sleepy little town to ride into, guns blazing... Just firing in the air to wake up the peoples. We don't usually shoot the peoples!
This is sick.
And will promptly be swept under the rug.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=754AT7o5qx0
The IDF was not so tough in 2006 in Lebanon against Hezbollah. They left Lebanon after 30 days and the Kornet's were able to take out Merkavas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkLshdwXJto
Hezbollah has also been killing those ISIS retards and defending Syria and innocent Syrians including Syrian Christians.
Norman Finkelstin (an American Jew) talking about how people have the right to fight against and resist invaders. He also talks about how Hezbollah defeated Israel in 2006.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDe65-nF3FQ
Famous Lebanese Christian singer - singing to honor Hezbollah for defending Lebanon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdZgkGI5h0A
Some good stuff Freddie. Good post
As long as Israel retains its status as a sattelite state of Western interests, and particularly American interests, in the Middle-East, the Palestinian people will continue to suffer without end.
Word is, you might have that assbackwards. Otherwise, you've had some pretty good comments lately, especially about Baltimore.
He's got it assbackwards for sure. Can't believe the downvotes for you could be even questioning that fact!
It's all cool because of "muh holocau$t"!
Hating on the Jews again, eh, Tyler?
the natural response was to attack the messenger
i keep clickin, but i can only give you one up
Reporting on the News again, eh, Tyler?
So all jews live in Isreal and are in the military and shooting at civilians?
No. These Israeli Soldiers admit that they "Shot Innocent Civilians Because They Were Bored"
You, instead of being disgusted by that and speaking out against it, (as I am & I do, when, for example, my own government commits atocities around the world, even though it wasn't me who was personally doing it), prefer to deploy the smokescreen by altering the narrative as to who may not be guilty.
Does anyone but me see this subtle difference?
If my government fucks up, I hold them accountable. Period.
There exists a significant difference between criticizing the policies of Zionism and discriminating Jews as a people.
Oh yes? How many of those Jews make contributions to the Jewish Fund?
It is an organisation directly responsible for funding the expansion of illegal settlements and continuing oppression of the Palestinians.
So if those People you refer to contribute a cent, they are effectively sponsoring genocide.
So, there!
New surv: this story was reported on israeli tv, so blame them.
Kirk had a nice post early. In summation:
Not all jews are zionists.
Not all zionists are jews.
The problem ain't the jews.
KEEP IT BALANCED.
Let's remember how Palestinians regularly launched rockets from school buildings, dragged their own people through the streets if they thought they were informers, and stashed weapons in non-combatant locations.
WAR is neither Just nor Fair.
Oh, so I guess it's all OK then, sorry.
"What would you do if your neighbor fired rockets at you?"
Sadly...nobody ever asks why my neighbor was firing rockets at me in the first place.
We're in purely hypothetical realm here, but my inclination would be to say that, in life in general, I'd try to NOT be such an asshole that anyone would want to fire rockets at me in the first place.
I mean, FFS, (true story), my neighbor cuts through my yard every single day walking his dog to the main road. His dog also sometimes craps in my yard. When I have old bread, I toss it out into the yard sometimes (which the birds pick up). One day I threw something out there that apparently his dog ate and made him a little sick. So my neighbor asks ME to not throw stale bread IN MY OWN YARD, because his dog may eat it.
I haven't fired any rockets yet. Yet, on the 4th of July, some 'other' neighbors fire rockets into the air (some of which land in my yard, which I know about when my lawnmower chews them up).
GET.OFF.MY.LAWN
Ever heard of exlax? Yeah, stop throwing bread you douche. Toss out the exlax instead.
The bread is for the birds. (So besides walking thru & shitting in my yard, the dog is bogartin' the bread for the birds). Besides all that, I have another neighbor with a cat that sneaks into my garage and gets to food that's in there if I accidentally leave it out. It's a goddamned warzone around here!
"Good fences make for good neighbors."
IF that happened I would go cut his throat, assuming I couldn't get a clean shot first. I would not do the same to his wife, kids, other relatives, or neighbors.
I like to remind people what those rockets look like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qassam_rocket
They never hit anything.
Also, that weapons stashing claim is known to be false and a front for bombing civilian targets.
Orgs like Hamas are Mossad operations created to justify the bombing of Palestinian civilians. Their bombs never hit anything because that is the plan.
So PS, shall the USG start sending the sending the same amount of money to Palestine that we're sending to Israel? That seems "balanced". Maybe we can send them some jet fighters too.
Naw I8apex, we should start sending rocks to the Israeli army and stop sending them jet fighters.
I don't understand your point. Combatants killing innocent people some how justifies doing like wise in response? How does killing innocent people ever justify ones actions? Only in the mind of a psychopath.
If Canadians were killing innocent American women and children, which they are - those satanic bastards, we would be fully justified in going to Canada, eh, and killing all the women and children. Why not kill the men you ask? Someone has to make the beer man.
Americans invaded Canada 1812.....Washington burned in revenge
Assymetric warfare sux. Toward the end of WWII we bombed the crap out of German city centers mostly because we could - and they couldn't stop us. A few hundred thousand blond women and children dead for no real tactical reason. Maybe we were bored too.
And then there was the coup de gras for Japan.
It's facts like that which make you realize that when the west gets finally knocked over by the rest of the world it will probably come with the deaths of hundreds of millions here..
And in those cases, like with the present case, it wasn't warfare. It was massacre of a subjugated population.
The IDF can't fight a enemy in equal terms, as it's defeat in Lebanon in 2006 shows. So they bomb civilians.
The myth of Jewish exceptionalism is just another lie propagated by them, the traditional enemies of the truth.
Make no mistake, they can fight on equal terms. They can do it and win.
Do they have the will? Ah, maybe not so much.
Yeah ROCKETS.
Those were glorified M80s. I've seen badder shit during July 4th celebrations.
TOTALLY justifies killing a few hundred kids, you dumb fuck.
If some foreign entity was firing these "harmless" rockets at your house, you'd wet your pants and demand the Military do something about it. So Fuck Off.
If I looted from the "foreign entity," stole their land, razed their villages, impoverished them economically and subjected them to a fucking open air prison/ghetto, I wouldn't be shocked at what was going on.
So, why don't YOU go fuck off, you ziocunt.
You did. They're called the American Indians. Every civilization is built on the ruins of another.
And whether you understood why it was happening or not, you'd still want the problem to go away.
Why are you making jokes about the children of Gaza these tickets regularly kill?
Hamas' rockets kill more Palestinians than Israelis.
One could argue it's due to the lack of bunkers in Gaza. Or you could argue it's that they're launched at all.
Jews and Muslims and Christians have been killing each other in the Middle East for twenty centuries - and while religion is often invoked as the reason - it is actually these never ending atrocities that evoke revenge and counter-revenge in a never ending cycle.
Agreed.
One answer is to set off a neutron bomb (or three) in the region, so everyone permanently takes their ball somewhere else, away from this God-forsaken spit of earth.
That's not true.
Islam started only a few centuries ago. That's why it's never been reformed, just schismed.
It's still in puberty. All pimply.
Wheel always seems to go full circle eventually....
Gentlemen, congratulations. You're everything we've come to expect from years of government training. [/agent zed, mib]
Looking forward to Nuremburg Trials 2.0.
Someday.
"Ve just shoot into da air, and da bullets land vhere God vills them to"
Throw in red meat why don't you Tylers
You have to admit that they know their audience and it's better than normal click bait.
is the truth making you uncomfortable? Good!
Light does seem to kill vampires, after all.
Relax, I forgot the sarc.
Bibi Netanyahu the Andrew jackson of our times.
Perhaps when he "kills the banks" instead of "West Bank or Gaza Palestinians" you can start drawing comparisons to Old Hickory.
Ah, the enemy of your enemy. Just because he hated banksters doesn't make him a hero. Perhaps his treatment of the natives could be compared to Isreal's treatment of Palestinians.
I get your point.
But in the case of Bibi, he kills Palestinians & supports the Rothschild Central Banking system. FFS ~ Rothschild Blvd is the feature of Tel Aviv. Furthermore, the money he gets for weapons comes from the US taxpayers whom the US Congress grafts from when they're not visisting the wailing wall.
So yes, I'll acknowledge the Jackson vs. natives part. But the above statement still stands.
The Israelis need to get rid of the enabler once and for all. And that means Netanyahu.
The more ammo you use, the more ammo you get from the USA. The more ammo used, the better the GDP number. Enconomic growth depends on more people you kill. Growth, Birches!
War is the result of moral rot; really is that simple and those who do not do everything in their power to prevent their children from entering the military is guilty of many things; the least is a lack of love for said child. Think about it, when is the last time a soldier fought to actually defend this nation according to the US Constitution; not in our lifetime. How many were wars that were strictly for the benefit of a group of psychopaths and were based on lies and deceit?
"Not wanting to be outdone by the Israelis, HAMAS swore to issue a 243 page report covering the transgressions and war crimes of their fighters."
And you know that ain't gonna' happen. The whole reason for Hamas to engage the Israelis is for shit like this. The left-wing media will not report on the crimes of Muslims in Gaza but are more than glad to roast the Israeli troops. Guess what? War is hell. It sucks like few other things, save famine or pestilence. Where is the blaming of HAMAS leaders for putting their people in harms way time and time again for political propaganda reasons?
It is common knowledge now that HAMAS uses their own people as human shields. Where's the fucking moral outrage about that? So pardon me if I'm less than empathetic towards Gazan cilvilian casualties, (but not your downvotes). As ol' Rhett said, "Frankly Scarlett, I just don't give a damn."
This is true; people fear Muslims because they tell you that "you are one of us or you are dead"; great religion of Satan. Christians are the easiest targets as history continues to prove because it is based on all that goes against human nature...love and forgiveness...that is the message of true Christianity...most is false and deceptive, just as the Scripture said would happen...no one escapes judgment after death.
They do report on it. With neutral language on a middle page with a small headline.
That's where I read about Hamas throwing Fatah members from roofs. And dragging collaborators behind motorcycles until they die. Or when they allowed Salafists to hang a pro Palestinian Italian activist by his neck until he died?
Or when their rockets kill more Gazans than Israelis.
It's there, but never as loud and proud as other news that needs to be heard ( Israeli government and military tragedies).
They do their own shooting in Gaza but in other places they have others do their dirty work.
Including in the US. All Goy are the same to them and they will not stop. And they are creative. They would like to get the different groups here to kill as many of each other first, with the help of the local police and then have the US, jewish controlled, military finish the take over.
The sick minds in the military will be just as willing to kill here as in the ME. For fun, out of patriotism once you are labled a terrorist or just to feed their family. There will be many Kent State's in every state. Once the few resisters are killed the rest will comply and settle for fighting and backstabbing each other for some resembalance of their former lives.
The IDF's fight song: "Onward Christian soldiers"
The all powerful Jewish mafia somehow can simultaneously own the media and every government, but can't stop this release EVEN WITH AN ACTUAL ARMY CENSORSHIP SYSTEM actively filtering Israeli news?
Could it be that it's actually a country employing a semblance of the checks and balances inherent in a republic?
Or they released the news to foster hate against them? And if so, why'd they only kill 2100? If they want the land, don't mind the world hating them, are in control of the money, governments and media why is there a Gaza at all?
The irrationality of the hate seems like it takes a lot of energy to maintain. A hate for an all powerful, yet simultaneously powerless group that can't even kill you. They have access to the nsa and know you hate them. But you aren't dead. Why?
Could it be that it's a country like every other - run by psychopaths? One that hires other psychopaths to carry weapons for it. Like every other government. Not a globe-owning cabal that somehow can't even stop it's own soldiers from talking to the media?
My response would be:
"Just like in the case of Edward Snowden, the natural response was to attack the messenger:"
The point being. Nobody can control everything (the biggest @ssholes are the ones who think they can). As much as they try, things eventually fall through the cracks (like Edward Snowden)
There is little doubt in my mind that Snowden fears for his life every day.
OTOH
"The irrationality of the hate seems like it takes a lot of energy to maintain. A hate for an all powerful, yet simultaneously powerless group that can't even kill you."
Me personally? I don't fear for my life. What pesters me about these fucks are the power nodes that they have achieved. MSM, banking, political activism, corrupt legal system. They use those platforms incrementally, every day, to slowly erode your freedom. A quick glance at the ZH threads (at any given moment), bears this out:
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I suppose you don't see it that way. I suppose, for instance, if people like myself would just shut up about it, it would all go away & everyones lives would be better.
No, keep talking. I'm not here to shut people up. I don't flap at every comment nor do I report anyone on the little link to the right. Been reading since he who shanty be named was still here
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Talk. But it's when folks with the irrational hatred act, that I have issue. A neo Nazi shot my dentists wife because he thought she was a Jew. He also killed a kid and his dad, thinking they were Jewish. None of them were.
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Talk. But keep in mind they were unarmed.
And Jews have never murdered or wronged anyone? Seriously? Have you never read what they did in Russia and Europe?
Take your moral relativism back to Soviet occupied Germany or Poland or wherever you think you ' come from'.
WTF do you think Americans have been doing non-stop all over the world since they paused butchering each other wholesale in the War of Nothern Agression?
Americans are slaughering innocent civilians in eastern Ukraine (Europe) today.
Governments kill people.
And the psycopaths that contol and manipulate governments get people killed.
Blaming people, or religions, simply gives license to governments to kill moar.
What does some 'neo Nazi', or your dentist's wife, or some kid I don't know & his dad have to do with me?
FWIW - Since you brought it up anyway, if this thread was about that, I'd describe that person as a sick psychopathic bastard.
You thought I was trying to shut you up. I brought them up to convince you that if you're talking then you're much more civil than I expected.
I respect your civility.
But I don't expect it.
I didn't really think you were trying to shut me up, but I used the occasion to make a point that that's exactly what others do. There is ample evidence of this by the dozens upon dozens of ZH users that have been banned.
Trust me, NOBODY has ever been banned from ZH for speaking out against Palestinians, blacks, Iranians, Russians, Democrats, Republicans, Tea Partiers, WASPS, Moslems, Buddhists, Pastafarians, or, lol, 'Luciferians'
SomeBODY has to initiate that process. It doesn't happen by itself. Which means, SomeBODY, is trying to 'shut people up'. All I have to say (to anyone who cares to listen), is that banning dissenting voices certainly hasn't made any headway towards making the world a more just & peaceful place over the past 5 years. If anything, it's worse now than ever in terms of oppression, social division, poverty, pollution, hopelessness, etc.
The only constant during that same time period is that the same heirarchy is basically in place. Yet I (& others) can come on to a thread like this, & well, all you need to do is read the contents of each comment to see on which side of the fence they stand towards these things.
FWIW ~ I tend to look at it the same way & look at people who still believe that 19 muslims flew airplanes into WTC & Pentagon on 9/11. What kind of dialogue can you have (on ANY subject), with a person like that? But it doesn't mean that I'm gonna pull out a gun & shoot em.
I just don't understand why neo Nazis and people on this board aren't killed more frequently.
Jews are attacked with swords and guns, yet the kkk, democrats who boo God and Israel, people like you - Jews aren't going out and killing you.
I get it, the protocols state you're controlled opposition. The Jews tell you what to say to make you look like a clown. That way they can control you, too. Like that Sanchez guy from CNN.
I guess I just take the violence personally because I was gifted a Jewish name but no maternal lineage.
But rest assured, if you're right, your days are numbered. Unless the protocols were correct and you're actually just a pawn of the Jew. Then you're just being used for their ends. Either dead or a slave.
Or I'm right and they only slavery we suffer under is the debt on fake money for property we rent from the government. A slavery understood by our founding fathers, something they tried to protect us from despite them being Freemasons. Or was it because of it...
All I know is that I see it as a determined & collective effort to control, subdue, and place humankind under a yoke. I'll be vocal in speaking out against it when & where I see it.
To be fair, if it just so happened that it was perfectly clear that Africans, or hillbillies, or Persians, or Trekkies, or whatever were in possession of all the power nodes (which very well may be the case in some parallel universe), I'd be as outspoken against that as well. But that's just not the case, is it? All I can respond to is to what exists this very day.
Thst's a tell on where the lawsuits, or threats of lawsuits aimed at ZH come from.
Go easy on the tilde...lol.
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Francis never went easy on the tilde.
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Spoil-sport.
"Could it be that it's a country like every other - run by psychopaths? One that hires other psychopaths to carry weapons for it. Like every other government. Not a globe-owning cabal that somehow can't even stop it's own soldiers from talking to the media?"
Sure, it could be that. But we just hate them more than the other psychopaths. Hope that helps.
Netanyahu and Obama are in a dead heat for the new Nobel prize; its title is "The Nobel Warmonger Prize". The G-20 representatives are responsible for the nominations. Putin was not named.
Hey...that's Satanyahoo to you buddy
you white americans all anti-semitic racists, any jew is worth 2 of you goy
…After offering Nixon tips on preparing himself for big speeches, as well as strategy for his re-election campaign, Graham notes that he has been invited to lunch with editors of Time magazine. "I was quite amazed since this is the first time I've heard from Time since [Time founder] Henry Luce died."
"You meet with all their editors, you better take your Jewish beanie," Haldeman says.
…Nixon then broaches a subject about which "we can't talk about it publicly," namely Jewish influence in Hollywood and the media. He cites Paul Keyes, a political conservative who is executive producer of the NBC hit, "Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In," as telling him that "11 of the 12 writers are Jewish."
http://www.jewishmag.com/167mag/kissinger-nixon-war-watergate/kissinger-...
nixon was brought down by a jew, deep throat.
and a lot of people believe it was Kissinger
What I find interesting about that whole affair is that just before it all went down they get rid of Spiro Agnew, and Gerald Ford comes in. Then Nixon resigns, Ford becomes President, pardons Nixon, and appoints, drumroll, Nelson Rockefeller as VP, (and, of course, Ford has to dodge two assasination attempts thereafter).
only 2? you anti-semite!!!!
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In fiscal terms, I am sure that is true.
Khazarian Kunts or hasbara troll or both?
Fuckin' tribal bullshit; 'civilized and ethical' are not even close to the words that I would use to describe anything about the IDF.
This should come as no surprise to anyone. After all Leon Trotsky and many others in the Soviet Union used to fight like this. Even today many believe that the Young Turks were Jewish. I do not know if they were Jewish but the fact that our government refuses to acknowledge that there was a genocide of both Armenians and Greeks; proves that the possiblity is there.
Hitler admitted to the public that he was doing to the Jews what they were doing to everyone else who lived in that area. He also did bring up the Armenian and Greek genocide as he told the public that the enemy they were up against was brutal and viscious. So unless the German volk (folk) became as viscious and inhumane as those they were currently fighting that their fate would be genocide. He was proven right when the allies both in the Soviet Union and the USA torchered and butchered Gremans in their very own holocaust camps. General Ike was a huge part of that genocide as were the generals under Stalin. This is why general Patton said that we had fought on the wrong side of the war.
Remember when everyone was saying that the Japanese worshipped the emporer which was why they were doing kamikaze assaults on American ships? Also remember how our soldiers used to say that the Japanese were wierd because they chose to commit suicide rather than surrender to them. Well if genral Eishenower and his Soviet friends weren't running concentration camps and killing both civilians and solders. The Japanese would have surrendered much sooner and we wouldn't have had to use the atomic bomb.
Serious students of history will also know that General Patton died in an auto accident under very mysterious circumstances in Europe before he could return home. Interesting that very little mention (until recently) has been made of how one of our most decorated generals met his end. I think that it is also significant that he was outspoken against the cabal.
Eisenhower has a lot of blood on his hands for how he treated German and Russian (see operation Keelhaul) prisoners after the war.
As an American, I am ashamed of his behavior.
What a bunch of pussy fags - why does the IDF have such a reputation for being tough?
you are more right then you know. there are more gay jews as a percentage of jewish population then any other ethnic, racial or religious subgroup(catholic priests notwithstanding). the deviation from general population numbers says there is a jewish gay gene. they are much more effeminate by genetics.
You say that after Irsrael has kicked the asses of their adversaries how many times, even after being greatly outnumbered?
Like Lebanon is 2006?
Or Do by kicking ass you mean dropping cluster bombs, white phosphorous and DIME munitions on civilians? Because that's all they can do.
idf is like the US military. They can only win battles why having total air superiority and overwhelming firepower.
been that way since WWI.
So stop sucking up to your overlords hoping for some crumbs from their table.
Watch it, they'll kick your grandma's ass, provided they can get the drop on her from behind, and she's unarmed.
I attribute it to the galil & tavor. They look tough.
And the muslims/arabs are wrong about god's chosen people because?
don't forget the persians.
LOL....oh yes, the "peaceful" Palestinians.....
You people are such idiots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3OYjKZ2Cu8
Here's some more....what wrong, can't you find an Israeli TV station teaching Jewish children to kill Arabs and Muslims?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57Q8K5TmivM
Not an IDF exlusive property, it is a human property...if you care to read any history.
Balfour Declaration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
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Sex Pistols - God Save the Queen (Studio)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z2M_hpoPwk (3:24)
one of the popular complaints about euro jews when the euros were permitted to talk about jews was that they were uncivilized, barbaric savages. they were much closer to right then wrong.
Don't you mean Germans and the 1930's? What, aren't you proud enough to say it?
that was the pervasive attitude of europe. only the romas were more despised.