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Two Chinese Warships Enter The Black Sea

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On Friday we reported that for the first time in history, Chinese and Russian navies will begin a significant joint naval exercise in The Mediterranean Sea in mid-May.

Citied by RT, Chinese Defense Ministry spokesman Geng Yansheng said that "The aim is to deepen both countries' friendly and practical cooperation, and increase our navies' ability to jointly deal with maritime security threats," but diplomatically added "these exercises are not aimed at any third party and have nothing to do with the regional situation."

Against a background of this week's "upgraded Japan-American military relationship" following Abe's visit to Obama, as one analyst notes, "the geopolitical significance of its exercising alongside Russia will not be lost on the U.S. and NATO."

While it was unclear if directly related to the upcoming "historic" drill, the Bosphorus Navy Blog reports that in what is a comparable "first" yesterday two warships from Peoples Republic of China were seen passing through the Bosphorus, and entering the Black Sea.

More:

Two Jiangkai II (type 054A) class frigates 550 Weifang and 547 Linyi from PLAN North Sea Fleet made a northbound passage through the Turkish Straits. The destination of these Chinese ships were not disclosed.

The frigates shown below, as they were seen crossing the naval barrier between Europe and Asia:

Chinese frigate 547 Linyi passing through Bosphorus. Photos: Nurderen Özbek and Yörük I??k.

Chinese frigate 547 Linyi passing through Bosphorus. Photo:

Chinese frigate 550 Weifang passing through Bosphorus. Photo: Nurderen Özbek.

Chinese frigate 550 Weifang passing through Bosphorus. Photo: Yörük I??k

NATO promptly responded and hours ago AP reported that a top NATO commander said the alliance will briefly move its allied joint force command from Italy to Romania - which has a historic Black Sea port in the town of Constanta - as NATO continues to react to Russia's moves in Ukraine.

Admiral Mark Ferguson, Commander of Allied Joint Force Command based in Naples, Italy, said the command will be based in Cincu, central Romania, for 12 days in June, to support a NATO exercise involving 1,000 troops from 21 NATO states.

 

Cincu is Romania's largest military shooting range, some 180 kilometers (112 miles) northwest of Bucharest.

 

"This deployment will be the first time a NATO Joint Force Command Headquarters has deployed to Romania," Ferguson said Tuesday.

 

At the same time, NATO will conduct exercises in Poland, the Baltics and the Baltic Sea.

As a reminder, in the summer of 2013 when the Syria war tensions saw a build of US, Russian and even Chinese ships in the Mediterranean ahead of what could be the first global Middle East war. The war was avoided in the last minute. This time the naval build up is taking place even closer to both Europe and Russia, and now even China is present.

 

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Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:37 | 6061794 Took Red Pill
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WWIII has started

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:39 | 6061801 InjectTheVenom
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Game On bitchez

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:45 | 6061825 nuclearsquid
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Whatever.  two SM-2 missiles and its 'So Solly'

Wonder if they brought subs.

 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:47 | 6061837 Urban Roman
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Relax, it's just a routine test of their EMP hardening.

http://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:58 | 6061845 Latina Lover
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Gotta give the NeoCons credit:  only supreme morons could have driven Russia and China, traditional asian rivals, into each others arms.  Well done Nudelman! 

Or, as a future Secretary of State, she will likely say:

What difference does it make, since I never suffer the consequences of my overarching hubris?

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:02 | 6061909 stewie
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No worries, everything is going as planned.  Nothing like wide-scale destruction to boost the global debt up tracking the required exponential.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:14 | 6061960 SMG
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Well the Globalists are going to get their world war and then their Global Scientific Dictatorship/Technocracy.

Here's their plan:

http://www.worldaffairsbrief.com/keytopics/threats.html

You have about 4-5 years to get you and your family ready.   Watch N. Korea as the trigger with about a week after that the missles will start flying.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:41 | 6062086 HowdyDoody
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China to US: So solly, all Walmart deliveries acquired by Russia, so maybe extreme rioting in US. We wish you a nice day from Hong Kong.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:45 | 6062106 V in PA
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Two Chinese warships enter the Black Sea, and the bartender says...

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:05 | 6062177 Anusocracy
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I like the Chinese village that the Linyi 947 brought with it on its deck in the second picture. Nice family touch.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:07 | 6062192 AIIB
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@SMG

 

Just so I'm clear about this, can you give me a LIST of whom you deem the TOP 10 'Globalists' on your scary chart. I'm interested to know their identities.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:24 | 6062284 SMG
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The Globalists work very hard to stay out of the public limelight.

At the top, you might look at names like Rockefeller, Rothschild, Warburg.

Mid-level You might look at people like Soros, Kissenger, Brezinsky, even Gates and Buffet

Luciferian Globallist Oligarchs every one, pushing the world towards a Luciferian Global Scientific Dictatorship.

Interesting times.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:58 | 6062434 AIIB
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Gates & Buffett are 'tools'. They're just rich fucks. Sure, the foundation does some fucked up shit (probably under 'orders'), but, assuming this 'Globalism' does in fact exist, they have as much input on real policy maneuvers as Spuds MacKenzie.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:30 | 6062563 Handful of Dust
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" If you have it, flaunt it. "

 

~ Old Chinee Proverb

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:19 | 6062206 MonetaryApostate
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Flaming Lamborghini Anyone?

https://youtu.be/_d8C4AIFgUg

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 18:56 | 6063640 Joe Panama
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Ok... now open the vault.   Take the gold out of your pocket.   Now put it in the vault.   Now shut the vault.

Me chinese.

Me play joke.

Me make banksters

go flat broke.

 

(I wonder if anyone will remember this joke from kindergarten?   Man!   It's been over 40 years, but karma sure has a sting don't it?)

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:21 | 6062274 indygo55
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Thats a good read from Joel Skousen but it seems to me that the timeline has been moved forward a bit. It seems things are speeding up. I can feel it in my bones. Everyone at the gym seem to be mesmerized by the CNBC programming. Amazing really.

 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:20 | 6062722 SMG
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You could be right, but Skousen thinks Russia/China will wait until the early 2020s when some of the new cutting edge weapon systems come on line.

I feel like the whole US is standing in the middle of the road and a truck is coming right at them, I'm screaming but no one hears.

It's a surreal feeling.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:33 | 6062576 Pesky Labrador
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Joel M. Skousen is a whack job. You would be wise to not listen to him.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:37 | 6062769 SMG
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Really? So what specific point that he made makes you question his sanity?

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:21 | 6061992 fudge
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A lot of worry because honored guests of the Russian Federation at the 70th anniversary of the surrender of the Third Reich decide bring their own yachts. NATO are strange but give much humor :-)

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:28 | 6062015 booboo
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"traditional asian rivals"???

They seemed to get along nicely since the Korean War and adopted Soviet style communism post WW2, throw in mutual support in vietnam for good measure. More like kissing cousins than rivals, all we did was solidify their support one for another, afterall it's a pretty natural relationship. I could give a shit one way or another but the children here may get the wrong history lesson from your comment.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:53 | 6062638 FidTheRED
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From what I've heard the Chinese are pissed off at the Russian for land possessions northeast and a little northwest of the Mongolia. The Chinese have claimed that traditionally this territory had belonged to the Chinese empire and I think it was sold to Russian for war repatriate or for settling debt. During the late 1800s early 1900s?

It's pretty much a wasteland covered in ice and the extreme weather conditions makes it uninhabitable unless you're a descendent of the Eskimo tribes

An enemy of my enemy is my friend

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:07 | 6062686 Latina Lover
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Fair enough, Booboo   Read further if it interests you:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_split

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:17 | 6062710 bid the soldier...
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And you, Latina, read Sun Tzu.

 

"All warfare is based on deception"

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 19:07 | 6063680 COSMOS
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Yo fid I think that issue got resolved when Russia and China finalized their border issues not too long ago.  The fact that the Soviets were quiet on Tibet and never armed the insurgency tells you that border issues were settled a loooong time ago.  China gained control of the region where most of its water comes from, a bit better than frozen taiga.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:14 | 6062704 bid the soldier...
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So the Chinese are more pissed off at the Russians than they are at the US.

Where did you go to college?  The Mass Institute of Delusions? 

 

I wonder why the Russians and the Chinese want you to think they are at each other's throats?

You have any idea?

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:09 | 6062682 Latina Lover
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The Chinese benefit the most from the manufactured tensions between the USSA/EU and Russia. 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:43 | 6062058 Kirk2NCC1701
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"Well done Nudelman!"

Once a Zionista, always a Zionista.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:36 | 6062765 RagnarRedux
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Zionist Neo-CON JOBS Jerking America’s Chains

http://incogman.net/2015/05/zionist-neo-con-jobs-jerking-americas-chains/

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:46 | 6062113 Cow
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"According to some specialized media, 27 sailors from the USS Donald Cook requested to be relieved from active service."

Seriously?  You believe this crap?  RT didn't even try to make it believable.  They need more imagination.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:09 | 6062696 Urban Roman
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I do not know. That one account on voltairenet is the only one I've seen. A site which clearly has a point of view, not of the 'mainstream'.

Some of the reports of Russian military systems are clearly fabricated of whole cloth. Perhaps we will see if there is substance to any of them, in the near future.

In general, I think that missile technology has progressed faster than armor since WWII, and many of the inventions of 20th century warfare, such as the aircraft carrier, will soon be consigned to the dustbin of military history. Subs may abide for a while longer, though..

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:50 | 6061853 thatthingcanfly
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My thoughts exactly squid. There's a reason Navy people refer to frigates as Missile-Sponges. China moving a couple of 'em through the straits is not really newsworthy.

I think we finally retired the last of our OHPs last year. About bloody time.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:09 | 6061933 datura
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I think it is newsworthy - not that it would really start any war, but China is for the first time officially showing the USA that they stand with Russia not just in economy, but even militarily. Many Americans have been refusing to believe that China would side with Russia, I still read so many silly comments about how China needs the USA, so they cannot side with Russia. This is a very important political statement from Russia and China: "We stand together, deal with it."  

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:44 | 6062100 HowdyDoody
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Both China and Russia remeber the no-fly zone scam in Libya, which was an essential part of the plan to deprive China particularly of its trading links with Libya and N Africa. It ain't gona happen again. They know with certainty tha white man speak with forked tongue.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:18 | 6062222 MonetaryApostate
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The prophecies say the Kings of the East are going to rise up at this time, so.....

(Prepare for a serious ass whipping warhawks...)

R E T R E A T !!!!

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:52 | 6062311 Stumpy4516
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Did not Russia/Putin vote for the initial sanctions and then give consent for further actions against Libya by abstaining from voting?

Did Putin not give consent for actions against the rebels in Yemen in the same fashion.

Same for Iran.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:28 | 6062326 Freddie
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These Chinese ships have Long Dong cruise missiles.  And Yu Fuk'd anti ship missiles.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:51 | 6061856 Oh regional Indian
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Knowing the Navy as I do, you can bet there will be Subs, only perhaps a couple more than announced.

Besides Flag showing and all that shit, these exercises are always massive joint (or individual) espionage events.

That said, it's really really really interesting what a replay this time seems of 1913 or 1932-ish.

And we well read and sentient humans are reading and watching all that is happening, recognizing the patterns and completely un-able to do anything about it.

Or are we?

I'm making some music, Sequence 14... 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYBO6cJUsFA

 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:58 | 6061887 Ignatius
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John Lennon once made a comment about the pretense of naming songs and suggested he should just number them.

"Sequence '14' "

Plant seeds and sing.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:14 | 6061962 Oh regional Indian
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Plant seeds and sing...what a life eh?

Cano et labora?

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:20 | 6062001 WillyGroper
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Pick weeds & scream. ;)

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:26 | 6062025 Oh regional Indian
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Hah! How about smoke weed and hum? :-)

But I see what you did there Will. (Some handles like yours feel kinda awkward to type by the way).

Thank god there is no intelligent commentator with a handle like Pullmyschlong, eh? Because even PMS would be weird....

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:28 | 6062036 Ignatius
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"I wanna party with you, dude." -- Bill Murray

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:35 | 6062060 Oh regional Indian
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Anytime a known ZH brother is in Bangalore Igatius...I can just imagine the conversation. 

 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:02 | 6062844 Think for yourself
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I've been thinking about Varanasi/Dharamsala for a long time. Would defo' drop you a line if I went through Bangalore :)

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 23:15 | 6064453 Oh regional Indian
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Sure thing TFY.... :-)

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:43 | 6062096 WillyGroper
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Sounds like the more mellow option. ;)

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:18 | 6061991 WillyGroper
Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:35 | 6062064 Urban Redneck
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But where would the Chinese leave their subs when the ships cross the Bosporus?  Tartus?  the bathtub floor at Club Med?  Regardless of Art 12 of the Montreux Convention I think they have less than 70' feet of water for both maneuvering and camouflage unless they want to go John Wayne straddle the shipping lanes (oceangrafix.com took down the free copy of chart 55048, or I can't find it).

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:05 | 6062679 bid the soldier...
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OTOH

only perhaps a couple more than announced.

 

Or a couple less.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:40 | 6062080 Kirk2NCC1701
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"Game On bitchez"

You break it, you pay for it.  You sink the Chinese ship(s), you pay for the "Chinese Take-out".  Shit-take Mushrooms may be included.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:40 | 6061803 Haus-Targaryen
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So, what happens?  

Do the Chinese blow up their own ship and blame the Americans?
Do the Americans blow up their own ship and blame the Chinese?
Do the Americans blow up a Chinese ship and blame the Russians?

Decisions, decision, decisions.  

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:42 | 6061815 Achilles Heel
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You need to ask the "Blamer in Chief"

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:48 | 6061844 Freddie
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa_TQyBn5aI

Send in the US Navy?  At least back in the Ernie Borgnine era they were all not gay bo's and fatties.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:10 | 6061934 Element
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Ernie Borgnine would have declared it the Yamoto and tried to torpedo it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:McHale%27s_Navy.jpg

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:45 | 6061829 p00k1e
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The "Chosen Peeps" will sink one of each using a rogue Korean Nuke with an Iranian signed isotope.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:27 | 6062032 Oh regional Indian
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Clever...

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:53 | 6061864 terryg999
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Obama is not going to go to war over a blown up American ship.  If this were to occur he would immediately apoligize for the ship being in the way of the missles and offer a cash payment to everyone on board the Chinese/Russian distroyer for all the distress the sinking of an American warship had caused.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:36 | 6062069 Kirk2NCC1701
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I wonder what the Russians will be serving for dinner.

Russian fare, or Chinese Takeout? (And don't forget the Fortune Cookies*)

* Strictly an American invention, as they are called 'American Fortune Cookies' in China.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:05 | 6062179 Max Steel
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I guess you didnt read nato is shifting its command center from Italy to romania . Those ships are target ducks for Russia let it be nato or so.eone else . Bosphorous strait is a narrow passage where russia keeps track on all ships entering or leaving . romanian leaders are nothing but paid stooges by dying empire in order to do muscle flexing and arm twisting .

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:42 | 6062375 GeezerGeek
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When I read your first possibility - Do the Chinese blow up their own ship and blame the Americans? - I suddenly wondered what the rallying cry would be. Then it hit me:

Remember the Chow Mein!

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 18:40 | 6063599 sterling effort
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"Remember the Chow Mein!"

That's really very good. Thanks.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:41 | 6061808 heisenberg991
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Two sardine can frigates with 80's technology....OK

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:09 | 6061896 HenryHall
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They are showing the flag is all. Not a significant military contribution, more a statement of whose side they are on.

If you attack Russia then you attack China also.

And remember it is openly stated Russian policy that nowadays a conventionally armed attack against Russian soil is likely to be repelled with nuclear weapons. Unlike when China and Russia (correction - Soviet Union) had a little warlet a few decades ago.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:20 | 6062004 Quantum Nucleonics
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You're on point about showing the flag, but had to laugh about the whole "if you attack" part.  China is about as likely to come to Russia's aid as you are to have Hillary Clinton pick Ted Cruz as her VP running mate in a show of bipartisanship.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:48 | 6062118 angel_of_joy
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Typical American delusion... go back to sleep now, all is well.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:14 | 6062230 Freddie
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Hillary and Ted Cruz work for Goldman Sachs so it could happen.  Cruz wife is a GS employee and they pay for his healthcare which he admitted.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:33 | 6062342 Stumpy4516
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China is onto Russia's/Putin's game.

"If you attack Russia then you attack China also."

No way.  China will do economic deals that benefit China but will not be played the fool by Putin like other "allies" have been.  Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Serbia.

 

This was a convenient excuse to project some military might further away from China.  Good for China. They need to start to show they can move about.  Now keep building those subs.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:56 | 6062655 bid the soldier...
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DELUSIONS DELUSIONS EVERYWHERE

 

NOR ANY DROP TO DRINK

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:52 | 6062639 bid the soldier...
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Maybe sardine cans.  

But each one with a dozen Yakhonts and proper radar.

Right up someone's ass.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:00 | 6061900 BiteMeBO
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It's only a model.  

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:35 | 6062056 Elliott Eldrich
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Two Chinese warships? Is one named "Bill" and the other "Hillary?" Considering how much the Clintons did to ship jobs and technology over to the Chinese, I wouldn't be surprised to see the "People's Liberation Army Navy" name their warships after their munificent benefactors.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:01 | 6062159 ZH Snob
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isn't that a shortcut to Yemen?

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:37 | 6061796 Achilles Heel
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Tomorrow Never Dies

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:46 | 6061835 mvsjcl
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Yesterday Never Sleeps

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:57 | 6061882 Achilles Heel
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Tomorrow I may wind up sleeping off today's Cinco de Mayo hangover.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:41 | 6062089 V in PA
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Today Never Ends.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:09 | 6062202 AIIB
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Bingo! It's never over. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:48 | 6062117 Kirk2NCC1701
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This happened yesterday, on official Star Wars Day, I understand.

Russian greeted them with "May the Fourth be with You."

China: "And may you defeat the dark Myth Lord"

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:57 | 6061883 Carpenter1
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The Neverending story

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:39 | 6061802 Philo Beddoe
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All governments are run by lunatics. Just thought I would point out the obvious. 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:20 | 6061945 earleflorida
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"All wars are Bankers' Wars!"  

 

Atricle @ top left nav.bar or:

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/allwarsarebankerswars.php#axzz3ZH0cOIWU

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:41 | 6061806 JoeTurner
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Even their battleships look like cheap knock-offs...

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:45 | 6061832 Kaiser Sousa
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nah u got it twisted...

all the cheap shit they sold to exceptional amurikans...

they saved the best for themselves...

USA!!!!!!

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:50 | 6061850 Bunghole
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Haha,

Battleships went out of style in WWII.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:00 | 6061891 Achilles Heel
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Tell that to Casey Ryback. They made a stylish comeback as floating food trucks. Get my pies out of the oven!

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:03 | 6061912 onewayticket2
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the ships are now flags....billboards.

 

the subs are where the action is....

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:31 | 6062051 Oh regional Indian
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Bingo.

India fears China's sub fleet, without a doubt and regardless of what any jingoistic Indian might say. And it is stated openly and often that China's sun fleet is actually to neutralize India. We have too big a coastline to guard with what we have.

In fact, imagine what DARPA and their global ilk have been doing underwater, out of sight? WHat might each country have that we would have ZERO knowledge of.

 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:35 | 6062062 Seek_Truth
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Indians are playing catch up:

http://www.businessinsider.com/india-china-submarine-fleet-comparison-20...

Everybody's gettin' ready to rumble.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:53 | 6062130 onewayticket2
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fear you are right....the global economy is busted.....and "some things are gonna CHANGE!"

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:00 | 6062156 Oh regional Indian
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What a sizable difference though.

And you don't become good with a ship, any ship till she is broken in and you are broken in. 

I'd say it probably takes 3 years for a foundation crew who knows every nook and cranny of a ship/sub, where to pound when the turret is stuck kind of wisdom....

Defence acquisitions, especially the big ticket ones,  have huge lags before becoming fully battle-field effective.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:05 | 6062180 earleflorida
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"India to sign port deal (Chabahar via Gwadar) with Iran, ignoring US warning against (Qatar?) haste"

So what! Qatar must wait in line to sell 'Gas', with Iran's 'Hormuz Strait' roadblock? Diversions3...[?]

"Iran's dire Strait"

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/irans-dire-strait-117566.html

Note: China soothing India's worries? AFPAK for $$$?

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:47 | 6062114 Haka Matohi
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Did you work at N&B in years gone by?  Do you know what a real bunghole is?

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:17 | 6061982 datura
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perhaps, but some experts say that battleships are not that important nowadays....BUT...have you seen the new Chinese and Russian submarines? It seems obvious that both Russia and China have been focusing more on submarines than on any above-water ships and why not? I know that Russian subs can even shoot their missiles when submerged. And since they are very hard to be detected, when submerged, what may happen to all those super modern USA battleships when such a sub is near and undetected?  

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:46 | 6062108 Old Man River
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Some folks feel that Naval surface warfare elements = targets. I try to remain terra firma anyway.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:55 | 6061807 Dr. Engali
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Speaking of China. A little off topic, but it appears that even the slave labor is getting too expensive:

Building work starts on first all-robot manufacturing plant in China’s Dongguan

 

 

http://www.scmp.com/tech/enterprises/article/1786484/building-work-start...

 

Yep, manufacturing is coming back to the U.S...... LOL

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:00 | 6061901 SoilMyselfRotten
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The US Prison Industrial Complex will fill that void

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:10 | 6061938 813kml
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FEMA iWorkcamp 7s, sponsored by Apple

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:17 | 6062255 Freddie
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....with free U2 concerts for all the workers (serfs).

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:42 | 6061811 will ling
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hope they're nuke capable; that's what really sends the message.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:43 | 6061817 Abitdodgie
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Do you think AMerican's would ever notice if WW111 started.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:47 | 6061840 p00k1e
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As soon as the EMP hits, I’m making a move on my entire subdivision. LOL  They’ll know by the piked heads. 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:53 | 6061860 froze25
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Not unless we have a celberties beaver shot sneaked in some how or there is a transexual issue attached to it.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:58 | 6061890 Big Corked Boots
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Well, I certainly didn't notice... what happened to the other 109 world wars?

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:24 | 6062012 Dr. Engali
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+ 1 ...... lol

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:29 | 6062039 813kml
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The Hundred Years' War accounts for most of them, the rest are War on Drugs, War on Terror, War on Constitution, etc, etc

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:21 | 6062725 AIIB
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If they had a war & 'Dancing With the Stars', 'OW My Balls', or 'Climbing for Dollars' was on, would anyone notice?

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:49 | 6062120 HowdyDoody
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They will as soon as Walmart has 100% empty shelves.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:50 | 6062125 Socratic Dog
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They'll notice when they're told to notice, and not before.

An exceptional people.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:43 | 6061818 Agent P
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Hory Fuck...miritary vessers in the Brack Sea!

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:47 | 6061836 Dr. Engali
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Racist bastard...... black sea. That's offensive. In the future please refer to it as the sea with darker tendencies. 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:50 | 6061852 HamRove
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That sea just "happens to be black". 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:11 | 6061942 HobbyFarmer
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If Obama had a sea....

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:54 | 6061868 Tom Servo
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Wrong,  "African-American Sea"

 

racist bastards....

 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:15 | 6061972 Mr Pink
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Let's assume it has a birth certificate from the 1960's and call it the "Negroid Sea"

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:12 | 6062218 AIIB
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Maybe 'African Asian Sea' would be more geographically accurate?

 

For that matter, why don't we just adopt the term 'Afriskins', split the difference, & call it a day?

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:24 | 6062011 813kml
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Desegregation, Chinese no longer satisfied with only being able to drink from fountains in Yellow Sea.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:01 | 6062142 Kirk2NCC1701
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If the ships sink, you know they had gold on board and had a ZH style "boating accident".

Either that, or it must be spring season for Beluga fishing (Caviar).

Reliable sources tell us that the POTUS is not into fish eggs, and prefers "alternative appetizers". So, moar Caviar for Ruskies and Chinese.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:16 | 6062245 Farmer Joe in B...
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Bathhouse Barry prefers to orally drain the male reproductive organs.  

Eggs...meh, not his thing....

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:43 | 6061820 czarangelus
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There's a sight for changing history. Surprising what a symbol of power this projects even knowing how easily such ships can be sunk.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:43 | 6061822 earleflorida
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this is good shit...

got popcorn?

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:45 | 6061823 bcking
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Don't worry, with their slanted eyes, they can't see for shit so they can't fire their weapons with great accuracy. Trust me, I know. I tried jumping on one of my wenches last night but because of my damned slanted eyes I ended up humping my dog. He didn't seem to mind, however.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:47 | 6061841 Ghordius
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the "accuracy theory" of 1905. until the Battle_of_Tsushima, it had many proponents, particularly among the Russian Admirals

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:54 | 6061870 froze25
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China will unlease thousands of female drivers into the EU as a first wave attack.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:03 | 6061910 bcking
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Egad, that is the secret weapon - DWA - "Driving While Asian". Almost as good as the kamikazee pilots.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:06 | 6061916 Peanut Butter E...
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And second wave will be young male drivers as they tend to have the highest insurance rate for a good reason!

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:49 | 6061826 tony wilson and...
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these plastic ships of china
match well with the cardboard wooden ships of russia.

fools have you not seen fox and bbc naval histories
we winners sea

nose this goy
they are know match for the mighty britishers no aircraft carriers

the vast talmoo class schooners of nutty yahoo tel avivs
or future uss libertys
russki and chink call usa usa tel aviv city of london insane
they say we are bat shit crazy already in bunker.

i say to you goy this "Kite" - "Hit" - "Steel" - "Plane" - "Must" - "Get Ready!"
already
GETREADY

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:45 | 6061828 Freddie
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SS Sum Ting Wong

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:48 | 6061834 Bankster Kibble
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I'm sure the Chinese are just doing a friendly look around while they visit their friends.  Quick, somebody sell them some tourist trinkets while they are still there.

I wonder if they will dock in Sebastopol.  What sort of visitor docking facilities are there?  Will NATO er, EU er, USA threaten China with sanctions if the Chinese visit Crimea?

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:50 | 6061839 Billy Shears
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The Chinese navy, your tax dollars at work. Looks remarkably similar to the Ticonderoga-class guided missile cruisers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ticonderoga-class_cruiser)

 

The Best Enemy Money Can Buy:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSVWXmZB1wc

 

OR:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arleigh_Burke-class_destroyer

 

 

 

 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:54 | 6061863 thatthingcanfly
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Billy, these frigates look NOTHING like a Tico, which is about twice the size, and whose salient features are the SPY-1 radar panels on the two main superstructures.

Wed, 05/06/2015 - 01:13 | 6064627 Element
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They are smallish DDGs, not bloody cruisers.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:52 | 6061857 Element
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They should remain alert, Pootie tends to steal ships hanging about in that area.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:54 | 6061861 Ghordius
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LOL - LOL - LOL - Can't stop laughing.... +1

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:55 | 6061874 Element
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"All part of my cunning plan."

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 11:57 | 6062140 HowdyDoody
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Wow, is he Chosen too?

Wed, 05/06/2015 - 02:00 | 6064675 Element
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It's your imagination, anything can be whatever you want, just imagine it and your reality is defined however you wish the world and its contents to be. This is pootie's gift to humanity!  See how it works? You're an imagination machine. Wise pootie knows this, so to liberate you from the bounds of 'what is', all that happens is you make up your reality, as you wish, and how things 'are' then becomes quite irrelevant to you. You could be a fat useless dumbass in mums basement but it doesn't matter, you can also be a beautiful butterfly and a wizened defender for pootie or some other pootie type creep, it doesn't matter who or what you want to defend, or attack, you can just go in all imagination and make it whatever you want. No more messing about with the tedium of evidence, as suppositions and fantasies are faster and far less difficult to sustain, so much more efficient, and given facts don;t matter and are optional if not discouraged, you have no danger of ever being wrong. This is the Gospel of pootie! It's a revolution in knowledge! Totally empowering for dopes and idiots of all stripes, the world over! If you want me to be 'chosen', OK, I'll be chosen for you! In fact, you don't even have to ask me! It's not even me per-sec, just your imaginary rendition of 'me'. So it's actually you, in a reality, who are fruitlessly fantasizing, for you can be a beautiful butterfly in that way, and no one can even question it! It's marvelous! All you have to do is believe whatever you tell yourself and so it is! Magic! Well, not really, but I shouldn't bring up facts as it's rude and quite uncalled for, and pootie's disciples will be cross.

Carry on.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:15 | 6062225 Dathedr
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Look, look! A Murican NGO employee, and a Scandinavo, well-known NWO whore, trying to sell a lie there! All ships have been returned to Ukrop Navy a year ago, whores! Do you even read about the topics you are trying to lie about, even from your Anglozionist sources, lying cunts? Obviously not! You are too stupid for that, aren't you... cunts? 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ships_of_the_Ukrainian_Navy

 

 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:54 | 6062645 Ghordius
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what part of LOL did you not understand? LOL. Relax, Galina*

btw, he is not Murican, no idea if NGO or not, anyway he claims to be from Down Under. Me? Con-Ti-Nen-Tal. Rhymes with Neanderthal, ok, can't change that

NWO? please define that word. Is Putin part of it or not?

* (New Ghordius Policy regarding week-old accounts coming with words like "cunt": imagine them little trolls pining for Putie as half-naked student girls working a quick buck on the nets)

Wed, 05/06/2015 - 01:41 | 6064529 Element
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It's OK Ghordie, it's just its time of the month ... full moon last night, synced to bleed and mince with the looney cycles.  :D

(and what's with this "he claims to be" an Aussie, I am an Aussie, fer krist's sake, my genealogy on the old bag's side says I'm a 6th generation local, so not even an fucking recent yank or european import! Amazes me that people keep assuming or insisting that I must come from some other country ... wtf is that?  :D  lols  ... is it really so hard to accept? ... unbelievable!  :D

Australians are not like Americans, we actually learn stuff about other places and countries and can even talk about them, in detail, so clealy I can not be an American, otherwise that could not be happening - QED.  duh!  :D

And I know nowhere enough about truffles or pastries to be a European. All I can manage is a dirty old pepper steak pie from Brumy's. Google Brumb's pies, but I warn you they're nowhere as snazzy (google snazzy as a colloq.) as their images suggest.

__

Russians Take Over Last Ukrainian Military Ship In Crimea
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/25/russians-ukrainian-military-shi...

Russia takes over Ukraine's military bases, officers
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/03/18/ukraine-crimea-shoot...

Pro-Russian troops take over Ukrainian naval HQ in Crimea
http://www.euronews.com/2014/03/19/pro-russian-troops-take-over-ukrainia...

Russia’s hostile takeover of the Ukrainian navy
http://the-naval-report.blogspot.com.au/2014/03/russias-hostile-takeover...

 

And if you're going to quote wiki pages on the topic at least try quoting the Ukrainian Navy page, as it's really quite a straight forward thing,try like this:

 

Ukrainian Navy - From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Navy

"... The Naval Forces of Ukraine were highly affected by the Crimea Crisis as majority of their units were stationed there. Ships that did not escape or were not deployed at the time were confiscated. Russia began a process of returning the vessels but stopped, citing continued violence against Russians in the Donbass. The ships that were returned were the older models of the fleet that were deemed obsolete. For example Russia chose not to return the Ukrainian corvette Ternopil or Lutsk, both of which are some of the newest ships of the Ukrainian fleet. ..."

So what I said was 100% true, and it remains 100% true to this day. Dear comrade vladimir pootie did steal almost all of the navy of another country, that he invaded and stole part of their territory. And pootie has kept the best of these ships for himself, and he refuses to give them back to their real owners.

That's called armed theft, so pootie is a crook, as he steals navie. He still ahs the evidence of his criminal behaviour in his posession ... oh dear!

So I think it timely and proper on those grounds, to suggest the Chinese watch themselves, not drink too much vodka and get all chummy, as those new DDGs make a very tempting target for a hostile takeover. Pootie may want to annex them.

 

You were saying?   :D 

 

 

Wed, 05/06/2015 - 03:57 | 6064748 Ghordius
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I try to be extra-factual because there are some kiddies following me here that constantly ask "but you wrote that..."

but look how much trouble our dear collegues have to accept that I'm a Continental European

that thing about the Navy vessels is really delicious. Just shows under what barrage of propaganda some are, and/or contribute to

here, official Russian news, from TASShttp://tass.ru/en/russia/724676

"SIMFEROPOL, March 20, 23:19 /ITAR-TASS/. Seventy-two military units stationed in Crimea and formerly subordinated to the Ukrainian army command raised Russian flags on Thursday, March 20. Russian flags were hoisted among others on board six warships and 25 auxiliary vessels which belonged to the Ukrainian Navy.

“The commanders of 72 military units, institutions and ships of the Ukrainian Defence Ministry made the decision to join voluntarily the Russian Armed Forces for further military service,” the Crimean government told ITAR-TASS."

Wed, 05/06/2015 - 00:43 | 6064585 Max Steel
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You didnt read your previous comments dont ya ? sit back , relax and assert what you said ghordi you are a nwo whore . Those pedophiles doing gay orgues with boys must be giving you hell of a time these days .  fir coal shoveller US media reporting on Ukraine is preposterous . They started the mess abd now drooling over their funded propaganda mediums to cover their crimes . usa today a discredired media house . oligarch america's basement trolls are lagging . fasten up usa led world order schmucks.

Wed, 05/06/2015 - 01:06 | 6064611 Element
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Will it make you feel more comfortable if I openly admit to being an NWO whore? I'm prepared to do that, to help you get over whatever it is that makes you such a dopey twat.  :D  Consider it a sign of our mutual good will, of our trust and friendship!  But please, try not to steal any more countries or their navies, it looks dodgy my little pootie boyfriend.  :D  And fella, Washington may be a pack of rat bastards to the core, but they're also not going away, per your fantasizing mechanism(s). They're going to be sticking around for at least another 50 years, at a minimum, as the predominant power, probably much longer.  And you Russian shit wheelbarrow pushing scumbags working for the pootie Moscow Circus (as the sad clowns) are going to have to get used to that fact.  :D  And also that Europe is also going to become a whole lot more heavily armed and ready to fight, than it previously was, or would have been. Thank your boyfriend for that, as it is 100% the result of his acts of staggering stupidity. The MIC and US and European heavy arms industry can hardly believe their luck, pootie has single-handidly pulled their bacon out of the fire!

Well done pottie ... I mean POOtie!  :D

Wed, 05/06/2015 - 02:15 | 6064688 The_Prisoner
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More like an Old World Order whore.

Look forward to you reversing some more of your fact based positions. Let me enumerate some which I remember, as I can't be bother checking:

You stated chemtrails didn't exist. When I pointed you to evidence of the US spraying in Vietnam and several links of hep engineering program's, including Australia, you changed your position to:

Yes, they are spraying, but it's Aluminium, which is harmless because it's so super abundant.
So here's a study about soil aluminium accumulation being harmless to plant root development. http://m.plantphysiol.org/content/early/2015/02/10/pp.114.253229

What about your theory that the Chinese downed MH370 so that they could study Australia Navy's outstanding search capability?! And your beloved JORN! I know from someone who worked on the project, that it's a huge white exemplary of the paquidermiae species.

Oh wait, there's more! You're also a big fan if the F35, aren't you? The plane that can't fly.

So I find it quite cool you, a former cold-warrior (my guess you're former RAAF), cozying up to Ghordius, and trying to paper over the fact that the West is once again fanning the flames of fascism around the globe.

I know you won't take it personal. After all you seem like a good humoured chap.

Wed, 05/06/2015 - 03:49 | 6064744 Element
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ha, wrong in every possible way, as per normal, but if you ever said anything even remotely accurate or factual, let alone true, which as I've pointed out several times preciously (with worked examples, I can provide links, that's something you genuinely struggle with, fruitlessly) I would be quite naturally shocked into a stunned and appalled catatonic funk and silence would rein - I may never recover my capacity to speak again!

But sadly it's not to be. You keep talking bizarre shit and I'm never the least bit surprised.  lol  :D

Oh yeah, your girlfriend Christine Milne sacked herself today, so she could spend more time with you ... and the other fairies at the bottom of the garden.  ;-)

 

Wed, 05/06/2015 - 04:11 | 6064758 Ghordius
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If I am an Old World Order whore... well, isn't Putin one, too? just asking

the biggest complaint of Russia, China, the BRICS and us Continental Europeans is that Bush started new rules. That's the Old World's definition of NWO

so yes, perhaps I am an Old World Order proponent, as much as nearly the whole rest of the world, including the President of the Russian Federation

the only thing is that Putie does not seem to like the Old World Order rules, neither, and seems to prefer the Even Older World Order rules... where I even agree with him

so NWO is an empty word until you define what the heck you mean with it

A) Westphalian Sovereignty and Concert of Europe (clearly not NWO)

B) International Law System based on a supranational UN and attached orgs (the NWO that US neo-con websites rail against)

C) "Might makes right", if you happen to be the Hyperpower of the planet (the NWO Russia and China talk about)

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 10:53 | 6061859 BeaverCream
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Bruce Buffer:

"FIGHTING out of the red corner...."communist" nation holding a record of ....

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