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California Adopts "Unprecedented" Restrictions On Water Use As Drought Worsens
Early last month we warned that California’s drought was approaching historic proportions and that if climatologists were to be believed, the country may see a repeat of The Dirty Thirties as experts cite “Dust Bowl” conditions. Governor Jerry Brown has called for statewide water restrictions aimed at reducing consumption by 25%.
Now, the conservation calls are getting much louder as the state’s water regulators have approved “unprecedented” measures aimed at curtailing the crisis.
Via AP:
California water regulators adopted sweeping, unprecedented restrictions Tuesday on how people, governments and businesses can use water amid the state's ongoing drought, hoping to push reluctant residents to deeper conservation.
The State Water Resources Control Board approved rules that force cities to limit watering on public property, encourage homeowners to let their lawns die and impose mandatory water-savings targets for the hundreds of local agencies and cities that supply water to California customers.
Gov. Jerry Brown sought the more stringent regulations, arguing that voluntary conservation efforts have so far not yielded the water savings needed amid a four-year drought. He ordered water agencies to cut urban water use by 25 percent from levels in 2013, the year before he declared a drought emergency…
Despite the dire warnings, it's also still not clear that Californians have grasped the seriousness of the drought or the need for conservation. Data released by the board
Tuesday showed that Californians conserved little water in March, and local officials were not aggressive in cracking down on waste.
A survey of local water departments showed water use fell less than 4 percent in March compared with the same month in 2013. Overall savings have been only about 9 percent since last summer.
Under the new rules, each city is ordered to cut water use by as much as 36 percent compared with 2013.
And more color from The LA Times which reports that California will begin cracking down on “wasters” via the imposition of stiff fines as millions of trees die out in National Forests, raising the risk of wildfires :
“Right now we're scared. Right now we're in the denial stage. We have to get into acceptance, and we have a relatively short period of time to do it.”
Others were more skeptical, citing new data showing that California's hundreds of urban water suppliers assessed only 682 penalties to water wasters in the last several months after receiving more than 10,000 complaints.
The enforcement data demonstrate the “need to make enforcement a true deterrent to water wasting,” said Mark Gold of UCLA's Institute of the Environment and Sustainability. “People don't park in posted street sweeping parking spaces three weeks in a row. The vast majority of people in California are not looking at this as a dire situation, yet.”
Years of extremely dry conditions are taking a heavy toll on forest lands across California and heightening the fire risk as summer approaches.
“The situation is incendiary,” William Patzert, a climatologist for the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, told The Times recently. “The national forest is stressed out”...
A new study by the U.S. Forest Service tried to assess the scope of the problem. Researchers estimated that the drought has killed off at least 12.5 million trees in California’s national forests during the drought.
The scientists expect the die-off to continue. “It is almost certain that millions more trees will die over the course of the upcoming summer as the drought situation continues and becomes ever more long term,” said biologist Jeffrey Moore, acting regional aerial survey program manager for the U.S. Forest Service.
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Of course, cutting back will come at a steep cost for utility companies who will promptly attempt to replace an estimated $1 billion in lost revenue by raising prices for consumers. Between rising utility costs and fines of up to $10,000 for egregious violations of the state's conservation efforts, hydration just got a lot more expensive in California — unless you're a MotherFracker, in which case none of this applies.
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What about companies like nestle?
http://www.newsweek.com/nestles-california-water-permit-expired-27-years...
Pay up serfs!
http://naturalsociety.com/nestle-ceo-water-not-human-right-should-be-pri...
I hate California.
Don't forget exemptions given to Fracking firms, who are allowed to contaminate what's left of the californian aquifers.
Or to block radiation contaminated atmospheric water carried by the jet stream from Fukushima?
BUT THE DELTA SMELT AND THE ENDANGERED ILLEGAL ALIEN ARE SAFE!!!!
Warm smell of colitas rising up thru the air
"The land is full of adulterers; because of the curse the land lies parched and the pastures in the wilderness are withered. The prophets follow an evil course and use their power unjustly." - Jeremiah 23:10
I was told in 1995 before I was leaving for the US that California is actually Kali-Fornia and that it has long been predicted that it's disappearence intot he pacific will mark the beginning of the end of the Age of Kali.
I ended up living in Cali for 8 years. It is a fake green desert in so many places that water was bound to run out.
The entire central valley farming boom was based on near ZERO local water, all canals.
I used to visit UC Davis (friends) which is big on Agri and all around it was a dust bowl. Hot dust bowl.
So, Kali-Purna (Incidentally Purna in Sanskrit means Ended, or finished)...
There ya go...
New today, Sequence 15, Tabla (Indian Drums)...something different :-)
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The very thought of charging as much or more than the cost to aquire the water never occured to any socialist, ever. This is why nations ruled by them are inevitably destroyed. All in the name of progress and fairness.
Seems to be alright in the desert, why don't the party just move out there?
Su para los ninos.
"man made global warming will cause more hurricanes and other heavy rain events causing increased erosion and run-off"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFL8ElXHaU
see what nestlea thinks about your water lol
To COSMOS, "water is not a human right, it should be privatized" (Nestlé CEO)
Air is not a human right, it can be privatized.
Walking is not a human right, you should pay to be able to stroll around. And whoever thought speaking, let alone thinking, was a human right? Where does it say it is? What stinking UN charter even raises that point? Hence, breathing air, speaking and thinking can and should be privatized.
Your garden is not a human right, it can be privatized... er... sold to your betters and rented back to you for an affordable fee. Property stinks. It's against free trade, patriarchal, a barbarian relic or something of the kind (we haven't yet figured out what sort of evil it is, but our think tanks are working on it).
Free trade will set the prices of all the aforementioned goods. Think about comparing prices, be sure to make the proper choice as an responsible, informed consumer. Don't go for second rate, make sure you stick to reputable brands. And don't forget to check out our Premium coupons!
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Guess where the water use is not being curtailed one Bat's Ass Swollen Roid?
LA/Sand Diego complex. The very same Birkenstockers/tree huggers (in name only, THINO) inclusive, loving, Progressive central planners who get all their water from up North and the Colorado, etc., in exchange for votes.
Honest Injun.
The Feds and State provide them with "unlimited water" so why would they change. Many of us here speak with the LA types and they don't understand why the "rest of CA has no water because they have all they want."
That's what rationing on a non-price based system leads to. Gosh, shades of the Great SOviet Union Central Planning and all the head honchos had everything they wanted at the GUM store. For you youngin's, look up GUM Department store in Moscow.
dup.
Hey, when they cut back on Big Ag then maybe I'll give a damn. Agricultural and enviornmental usage is at 90%. The Urban slugs only use %10.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/04/03/agriculture-is...
what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Jesse, here is a truism for you:
The truth is never obvious and the obvious is never true.
You should dig a little deeper into the esoteric because that is what is running your world, not the things you be-LIE-ve.
All good though, make what you will of it ;-)
Ori, what is sanskrit for douche?
If you have not already done so, you guys should read the diaries of juan bautista de anza and eusebio kino. They describe the western landscape in detail. The last few hundred years have been an anomaly as far as rain fall.... the western states are screwed...
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Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will.
I sure could use a vacation from this
Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks
Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.
Some say a comet will fall from the sky.
Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still.
Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits.
Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will cuz
I sure could use a vacation from this
Silly shit, stupid shit...
One great big festering neon distraction,
I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied.
Learn to swim.
Meet the Billionaire Beverly Hills Jewish Power Couple Sucking Central Valley Dry Growing Clementines (Cuties), Oranges (Sunkist), Pomegranates & their juice (POM Wonderful), Fiji Water, Pistachios, Almonds (and Almond Milk) [Paramount Farms]
http://www.npr.org/2015/04/30/403283276/drought-in-calif-creates-water-w...
GROSS: This is FRESH AIR, and if you're just joining us, we're talking about California's water wars in the light of this drought. And the water wars are the subject of a forthcoming book by my guest, Mark Arax. He's a journalist who has written for the LA Times, where he covered California's Central Valley. He's also the author of the book "West Of The West."
One of the families you profiled are - own big corporate farms. It's the Resnicks that I'm talking about. And they're best known for the Cutie clementine seedless tangerines, for growing pomegranates and for owning POM Wonderful. They're behind Fiji Water, the bottled water known as Fiji Water. They grow a lot of pistachios, which are highly advertised now. How much land do they control in California, and how much water do they use?
ARAX: The Resnicks, through Paramount Farms - their Paramount Farms - they control about 120,000 acres of farmland. This is the second - you know, they're the second-biggest farmers in the state by acreage. They're growing very high-dollar crops.
GROSS: How did they make their fortune that enabled them to buy up so much California farmland?
ARAX: Stewart Resnick - it's the story of a Jewish kid in New Jersey whose father ran a bar himself and ended up pretty much squandering all the family money. And so Stewart came west to go to UCLA law school. And by the time he was in his second year of law school, he was already a millionaire. He was cleaning up businesses. And then, he turned that cleaning-up business into alarms and security for these buildings in LA. So he was a millionaire in - at UCLA.
GROSS: So he made a lot of money from the alarm business.
ARAX: Yes. And then he took that money. And then, he ended up buying The Franklin Mint and doing wonderful things with The Franklin Mint, the Princess Di outfit, you know, all those wonderful little...
GROSS: Commemorative plates and things like that.
ARAX: Yes, that's what they did. And then, he decided in the '80s that he needed a hedge for, you know, all his millions. And he took a bet on farmland. And it was a great bet. He bought a lot of land in Kern County from the oil companies for cheap and then decided to do this kind of agriculture in a way that - in a precision - I mean, his operation - I mean, they're excellent farmers. You know, he's probably worth a couple billion dollars today. I mean, he's not a farmer. He says, I'm a carpetbagger. You know, his house in Beverly Hills, it's a hundred miles from those fields in Lost Hills. Farming has been very good to Stewart Resnick, even though I don't think he's got any dirt under his fingernails.
GROSS: So one of the agricultural investments that the Resnicks made was in pomegranates. And they also own the juice company POM Wonderful, pomegranate juice. Did they create the demand for pomegranates, or was there a pre-existing demand for pomegranate juice?
ARAX: Pomegranates have always been grown here. There's a wonderful Saroyan short story about his uncle planting these godforsaken pomegranates on godforsaken land. And they never sold. So there have always been pomegranates here. They've sold, you know, out of here and there to specialty markets and ethnic groups. But what Resnick did was he ended up buying this land that had some pomegranates on it and saying, you know, let's make some juice out of it and then doubling that acreage and doubling it again - you know, somewhere around 10,000 acres maybe a pomegranate. That's huge, huge. That may be a little off. But really made a big bet on pomegranates - they marketed the heck out of it. But now they're pulling out some pomegranate orchards because, you know, the demand isn't there. So we're seeing pomegranates now go into nuts.
GROSS: And there's a lot of demand for nuts. I mean, almond milk is huge now.
ARAX: The almond is not only a great source of protein; it's turned into almond milk, almond butter. The hulls of almonds are being used to feed cattle. So you're seeing a lot of secondary use for the almond as well. And so you're seeing this nut rush. And if you drive the valley here, all these acres in the middle of drought, the almond trees are growing. The pistachio trees are growing. And they're able to do that largely through the State Water Project, one of those two water projects I was describing at the beginning. They were also able to buy from the state. The state had invested $30 million in an underground water bank. And through a very controversial kind of backroom meeting more than a decade ago, they were able - actually two decades ago - they were able to seize control of this water bank. And it allows them to store water during abundant snowmelt flood time and then draw on that water during drought. So if you go to a little place in the middle of California called Lost Hills, you will find what is essentially a company town, the Resnick company town. And there are, you know, fields after fields of almonds and pistachios and processing plants and things like that. That is - that's kind of the Resnick empire.
GROSS: My guest is Mark Arax, who's writing a book about the California water wars. After a short break, we'll talk more about water. And we'll talk about his investigation into his father's murder. I'm Terry Gross, and this is FRESH AIR.
(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC)
GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. I'm Terry Gross back with Mark Arax. We're talking about the California drought and California's water wars. Arax is writing a book on the subject. He used to cover California's Central Valley for the LA Times. When we left off, he was telling us how the Resnick family's farming empire in California acquired a controlling interest in the Kern Water Bank in the San Joaquin Valley.
So the water bank, which is basically a huge underground lake for storing water so that it can be used in dry times, that was something that was created as a public storage facility, right?
ARAX: Yes.
GROSS: But so how is it possible for that - a work of that magnitude to be acquired as part of a private enterprise?
ARAX: Well, that's the subject of a lawsuit. You know, the state has its hands full running the State Water Project, and so it had initially invested in this thing and just couldn't bring it to fruition. And so Resnick, his lawyers and others stepped in and decided to buy it. And it's a pretty smart investment, looking back.
You know, this is why this place is such a paradox, why here we are in the middle of drought, and you're seeing the planting of all these acres. And the newspaper accounts are saying this is the California dustbowl, but you have to drive a long way to find dust. There's just an awful lot of planting still going on. And the shortfall from the rain and the snow is being made up by groundwater. And farmers are pumping the heck out of the groundwater. And the land is sinking, first in inches and now in feet.
GROSS: So the water bank wasn't completed at the time that the Resnick's company acquired it?
ARAX: That's right. It wasn't completed. And they ended up completing it, spending, you know, a lot of money, a lot more than the state had initially invested. And then through a couple water companies, they have, you know, control of that water bank. They don't own it all, but they own a controlling interest in it.
GROSS: So is the question that's being put before the court - is it a question of whether water intended for public use can then be diverted into a private underground storage facility?
ARAX: Yeah, it's that and a few other issues. But right, it's the whole notion of, really, who owns the water? And through these kinds of projects and buying early interests in canal companies, you have farmers here who, in some cases, control or own 15 percent of a river's flow.
GROSS: Am I right in saying that Central California has more water to draw on than the rest of California?
ARAX: Yeah. The middle of California is a land rich with rivers, OK? And it's also a land that long, long time ago, was ocean. It was an inland sea. And so a lot of that water percolated down and, you know, down deep into the - you know, there's a deep, deep aquifer here. And that aquifer is what farmers have long drawn on to to grow their crops. Their water was then supplemented by surface water, as it's called from the Central Valley Project and the State Water Project. But when those two projects are dry, like they are now, the farmer then returns to deep, deep into the earth to pump out his groundwater.
And this water, if you were to do, you know, like, a carbon testing or something on it, it would go back thousands and thousands of years in some cases. And as it's being pumped out, the land is sinking. And that's because the aquifer is starting to collapse. It's very - all those layers and layers that have water in them - as that water's being sucked out, the land, then, is collapsing on itself.
And you know, as much as this state is regulated and as cutting edge as we are in terms of environmental laws and everything else, we have never regulated the groundwater in California, and we're just starting to now. No one knows how many wells have been stuck into the ground, how many pumps are pumping out water. There's - they have no idea. The counties aren't required to really even keep that information.
GROSS: Are these aquifer's supplies of water being depleted?
ARAX: Yeah, they're being drawn down. And in some cases, there's an overdraft and water that was on the west side of the San Joaquin Valley, for instance, or on the east side, water that was two, 300 feet deep, 400, 500 feet deep, is now 1,700, 1,800 feet deep the wells are into the ground. So now, the notion is that when flood comes, those will replenish. But it takes years and years and decades and decades of floods to replenish that kind of overdraft. So we're, you know, we're sinking.
Forget it Jake, it's China Town
If it's sinking, one needs to consider about a 1:10 sluff, i.e. a 10' void 100' down will not be noticeable on the surface. In case one didn't catch the part about buying all this land from oil companies, water's not the only thing that's been removed from the deep. I was thinking more along the lines of "There Will Be Blood".
Paramount farms is nothing compared to aggregated land (from thousands of owners) who supply EJ Gallo with grapes.
California is in the classic guns or butter dilemma. It will come to grapes vs. oranges. grapes vs. strawberries, gallo vs. tomatos, lettuce, peaches, oranges, appricots, almonds, garlic, cherries, lemons, cotton, etc.
Bacchus only wept
in summertime's driest days
when drought killed the vine
Dude, just post a link. Idjit
If I could, I'd shorten the excerpt dramatically with just the link, but it's too late to edit now.
It's cool, fuck complainers
We shall go on to the end, we shall spray in France,
we shall spray on the seas and oceans,
we shall spray with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be,
we shall spray on the beaches,
we shall spray on the landing grounds,
we shall spray in the fields and in the streets,
we shall spray in the hills;
we shall never surrender
http://i1.wp.com/contrailscience.com/skitch/skitched-20120721-094654.jpg?w=630
deradiate and desalinate the ocean and drink up. only one question? who pays, ha...
ps, any real estate for sale in cali?
California needs another 50 million illegals. Liberalism destroyed California.
Same scum like Pelosi who's klan helped destroy Baltimore or Boxer, Feinstein, Waxman et al dual shitizens who wrecked the NE then move to California to destroy it.
I'd like to hear the number of deportations necessary to balance supply/demand for water in California.
Not very many. Just some of the farmers. When it comes to water use by humans in CA, everything else is just noise.
Because no one needs farmers, but everyone needs landscapers?
I know it's a very novel far fetched idea....but, why doesn't California consider PRICING to alter behavior!!!
If it costs someone $300 per/month to keep their pool full in low humidity 100+ degree temperatures, then we'll start seeing behavior change. Keeping prices low, and just constantly begging people to conserve and threatening them with fines is stupid.
Because that wouldn't solve the problem. Urban use is minimal compared to farming in CA. Raise the prices and you either raise food prices or you force farmers to shift to different methods and different crops. That'll piss off some lobbyists.
Maybe they should ban fighting those massive fucking fires out there...
Water, water everywhere! I'm thinking of taking a tour of California Water Parks this summer!
http://www.trippin-thru-california.com/Water-Parks.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSMgAGGC5OY
Water, water everywhere, indeed. The earth is more than 2/3rds covered with it, in some places up to 7 miles deep. The issue is not water but energy. The energy to desalinate ocean water. And yet the universe is nothing BUT energy...the black budget boyz know this (google "zero-point energy"), but acknowledging that fact would upset the current paradigm and power structures. We lack neither water nor energy...only imagination.
Perhaps.
I read an article the other day stating we can expect more atmospheric radiation do to Chernobyl forest fires.
Funny, in the '80's Chemtrails were bad, but now Chemtrials save us.
To do one you have to do the other. There is no free lunch. Never let a crisis go to waste. Etc.
Chemtrail spraying is for real. Watch this interview on the subject by Greg Hunter of USA Watchdog:
Geoengineering-Fast Track to Total Disaster & Total Collapse-Dane Wigington
http://usawatchdog.com/geoengineering-fast-track-to-total-disaster-total-collapse-dane-wigington/
The elites that order chemtrail spraying, how is it that they are immune from it? Are you saying that their children breathe the same air we do but are somehow protected from the effects ? Maybe we could do some research on who actually orders these ops and figure out how they are protected, special nose filters or something... Always wondered about that..
When you have a printing press is the cost of treatment an issue?
think about that.
RIPS
They do not give birth to normal children.
More like a sub-species of degraded sub-human filth. Sent to the schools best know for producing highly evolved sociopaths.
There appears to be a number of government trolls on this site that do not want the sheeple to know about geoengineering and chemtrails. I have never seen so many down arrows to the truth. The evidence is overwhelming.
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/
WHOOOOOOOOAAAA 20 thumbs up for chemtrail spraying? Nothing could be a better indication of the quality of the zerohedge crowd. Braindead zombies abound just as much here at zerohedge as the rest of the internet.
Who are you to wave your finger?
You must have been outta your head
Eye hole deep in muddy waters
You practically raised the dead
Rob the grave to snow the cradle
Then burn the evidence down
Soapbox house of cards and glass so
Don't go tossin' your stones around
You must have been high
Foot in mouth and head up ass
So whatcha talkin' 'bout?
Difficult to dance 'round this one
'til you pull it out. boy,
You must have been so high
Steal, borrow, refer, save your shady inference
Kangaroo done hung the jury with the innocent
Now you're weeping shades of cozened indigo
(Musta) got lemon juice up in your eye
When you pissed all over my black kettle.
You must have been high!
Was the California drought geoengineered to pass future ‘climate change’ legislation?
irrefutable, undeniable truth of Geoengineering:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_State_Water_Project
Was the California drought geoengineered to pass future ‘climate change’ legislation?
YES.
water is important and all but ZH meat is this::::
Greece has revealed it is to introduce a surcharge for all cashpoint withdrawals and financial transactions in a desperate attempt to prevent citizens withdrawing their money from the country's beleaguered banks.
Ministers hope the controversial move could raise as much as €180 million, which the Athens government hopes will help the country avoid defaulting on debts owed to international creditors.
As the Greek economy teeters on the verge of bankruptcy, millions of panicking citizens have completely cleared their accounts - pulling more than €28 billion out of banks and pushing the total cash revenue held in the country's financial institutions to a 10-year low.
Greece has revealed it is to introduce a surcharge for all cashpoint withdrawals and financial transactions in a desperate attempt to prevent citizens withdrawing their money from the country's beleaguered banks.
Ministers hope the controversial move could raise as much as €180 million, which the Athens government hopes will help the country avoid defaulting on debts owed to international creditors.
As the Greek economy teeters on the verge of bankruptcy, millions of panicking citizens have completely cleared their accounts - pulling more than €28 billion out of banks and pushing the total cash revenue held in the country's financial institutions to a 10-year low.
I'll tune in tomorrow, it will be just more of the same crap.
i preparred for the eventual capitol controls by withdrawing all my 400's and paying 10 percent penalty plus income tax. i put that money plus money from sale of all gold towards raw land with minmal tax. last buy 15 acres with annual tax of 188 dollas. i have a warranty dead that says it's mine. not sure how the gov could take it from me but it would be fun defending my land in the event of land grabs by the guberty goop. greece is what is inevitable world wide. get what you can defend and hang on for quit the fight. from my cold hard grip thoust not take...
Unfortunately, they have a very big blue gang....
Don't be silly,
the California drought is due to the cyclical nature of rainfall. Not to mention putting millions of people where there isn't enough water, except by artificial means.
Just read the Book "CADILLAC DESERT"
tell you all about it. with footnotes and references and everything :)
Just rename it "Dune"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzUlXEyvJeA
Beginning yesterday in my neighborhood, we are only allowed to water our lawns once a week and use drip system 3 times per week. We'll be moving all of our potted plants from the front porch to the back yard so the water nazis don't hit us with a $500 fine before they head home to take a 20-minute shower and then leave the water running in the sink as they brush their teeth before bed.
None of the government buildings lawns are brown. Go figure.
Funny you should mention that, Knuks. At the State Capitol, they let a 30ft x 50ft section of grass turn brown to show how those in government are "doing their part". Now, mind you, the grounds of the Capitol cover about 10 square blocks. Is that the perfect symbolism for elitist government assholes or what?
You must have state envy.
If you want a hint of where the rest of the US is headed, pay attention to how california uses totalitarian methods to enforce water rationing on the serfs, and gives a free pass to the elites and insiders.
"...pay attention to how california uses totalitarian methods to enforce water"
Yes, indeed. Farmers, for one, are entirely exempt from these measures, and yet they use that vast majority of CA's water resources. So ask yourself, how likely is that these measures will actually work to curtail usage to any meaningful extent? Good luck Joe and Mary Q Californian....you're going to need it against this crop of totalitarians.
In defense of the Politicians, the farmers are the ones who deliver the suitcases of money to the prearranged droppoint in the middle of night. it is only right, the farmers get something back.
That being said, I'd prefer the farmers grow some carrots with that water than the Kardashians continue to fill their doggie pool.
You pot growers want all the water for your pot.
only the people will pay more and use less, no tax for big companies...
yup, the disiples are doing gods work providing jobs.
apply the liberal "fairness" concept to Water.....
and you open the door to policies to tax states with water.
whacky...but hey, these are liberals. just wait.
So I guess lumber prices should plummet given all the available trees. Which of course means home prices should really take a nosedive because material costs are so low. Naturally this will allow first time home buyers to get in at rock bottom prices. All those homes will need appliances and other accoutrements so those manufacturers will benefit. And since all those materials need to be transported the trucking firms will have a boon. Don't you all see? This drought will certainly be the impetus for full and complete economic recovery.
yeah....</sarc>
Tree Huggers hug the dead ones as well. No new logging even if it means devastating fires. For the planet, you know...
"What about companies like nestle?"
Are people not going to need to drink water, regardless or not if Nestle bottles it or not? In other words, what difference does it make if it comes out of the tap or if Nestle bottles it and sells it to the fools at a high price? The water gets consumed just the same.
If you live in that doomed state, it is time to move !!!
Late great Golden State.
The rats need to go down with titanic, they carry the plague.
Even though certain individual rats may be cute and make wonderful house pets, that don't mean you need to take a chance and accept one coming a plague infested region. Think of the cost to your community if the disease inadvertently spreads!
Agreed, they need to stay put. And that's about as much thought as I'm going to give it. I'm off Morel hunting, in the beautiful rain soaked Forrest's of NE Indiana.
Note to Californians, it sucks here, stay away.
Looking for morels is great, but the rest of what you say is very foolish. How do you know you are not next?
"I'm off Morel hunting, in the beautiful rain soaked Forrest's of NE Indiana.
Note to Californians, it sucks here, stay away.
Indiana does suck.
California is a country in its own right, and has more ecological and geographical diversity than all the other states put together.
Alaska says "Bullshit" to your claims.
I hope those jerks don't move to my area. They already screwed up many places including Austin and much of the State of Oregon.
Californicators are like the plague or locust. They move to ther states and spread their evil misery and liberalism. F them.
Yep, there are millions of latinos, who don't know smelt from shinola, to fill all those infrastructure jobs at a better price.
They don't complain, work unusually long hours and are available at the local Home Depot.
Just Y'all stay west of those big hills, most of which you've already infiltrated.
mr musk not only making electric cars, he is making a body suit that collects human waste water, which can then be given to the state water keepers, all we need is a law to mandate we all wear this device..living in a desert has it's problems ..mr musk to the rescue
Its called a '"Stillsuit".
+1 for the Dune reference.
Sean Young looked pretty hot in that suit. Shame she was a bit bonkers. Here is her Super 8 video of making of Dune. She said everyone liked David Lynch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFTS5-cIHgQ
Give Cali back to mexico, and extend the fence.
You live in a desert - Sam Kinison
You live in a desert ... where a very powerful regional scale earthquake is in the known return period window right now.
Why waste a perfectly good disaster on the walking dead.
East Coast Baby!
http://rense.com/general13/tidal.htm
Could always do both I suppose. Why not? HAARP can do anything, even a whole bunch of stuff that hasn't been made-up yet. Truth be told, most of the zh slobs will die quiet smelly inauspicious deaths of heart disease, cancer of the arse, or an intentional overdose, while cursing the devil chemtrails and declaring how the collapse is already here! :D
Who needs "water"??? Just eat dead cows and drink bourbon. Hahahaha, "water", what a nonsense topic.
And to think we went to the moon because we thought it was made of cheese.
Pretend it is 1976..
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2015/05/03/40-years-since-climatolog...
The science is settled.
The science, to anyone with eyes to look, is settled, but it is not your bs New York Times fairytale story.
The politics is to redistribute wealth, with science.
I know it doesn't make sense right now, that's why we have Common Core.
Thanks and shout out to Mike Huckabee.
If the Science is settled they'd be economists.
If economics was settled science they'd all be central planners
"The science is settled."
Thanks for checking in, Ptolemy.
Perhaps the Feds could stop targeting California with HAARP
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/engineered-drought-catastrophe-target...
Or maybe not ... chaos is good
Maybe Kalifornia should not let 70% of its' rain water runoff flow out to the sea without trying tp capture it.
And sell it to Nestle so that animal life can suffer?
Good plan, man.
Run off of fresh water into the sea is essential. Storm systems are created over bodies of water; that is where our rain is derived from.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/california-golf-courses-droug...
http://www.oceanprotection.org/nlet/fracking-OPC_ed.pdf
http://reverbpress.com/news/us/despite-worst-drought-1200-years-nestle-g...
Half of leading bottled-water brands source their product from drought-stricken California, a fact that has media and consumer groups up in arms. It doesn’t help matters that the process by which companies gain access to public water sources in California is fairly opaque, or that the state keeps no record of how much groundwater the “spring water” bottlers – Arrowhead (owned by Nestlé), Ethos (owned by Starbucks), Refreshe (Safeway) and Crystal Geyser – use. To make matters worse, new groundwater management regulations won’t change that until 2020.
http://www.mintpressnews.com/fracking-pollutes-california-water-as-droug...
really? c'mon man - tell me you don't believe yourself
Do you have shit for brains? Do you not think there are consequences to that?
Piss off progressive asshole
I would be interested in the design concept which would allow even a fraction of the the total rainwater to be collected. How do you propose that happen? Or are you just interested in making fantasy posts?
I would be interested in the design concept...
Installing a series of perhaps 2 locks near the Antioch Bridge to allow ship traffic up to continue to Stockton could also serve to prevent the salinity levels to rise in the Delta, which is the primary concern regarding the usability of the natural clear water river flows.
Since this device would require prudent human decision and guardianship capacity, a consensus on it ever happening is not likely in the current civilization cycle.
Could you imagine the EIR that would be required for such an enterprise? The data it would produce would overload the Utah facilities, not to mention the number of generations of attorneys that would spend their lifetimes and retire off the procedures and court battles for more decades and decades to come.
Jmexperience.
I live in Alaska. I can tell you the HAARP has nothing to do with weather control. Its about trying to use the powers of the Aurora to mutate moose into Godzilla sized monsters that shoot beams from their antlers so we can destroy Russia with them.
Duh.
Has anyone bothered to assess the how the long term affects of population pressure from illegal immigration and urban sprawl on the environment may have contributed to this problem?
A lot of population-related activities (not just the use of more water by the additional population) such as 1) the paving of more and more roads to accommodate greater vehicular traffic, which accelerates runoff and reduces biomass, and 2) urban sprawl, which not only increases the need for more vehicles, but often replaces high biomass cover (trees and shrubs) with low biomass cover (the chemlawn jungle known as the "suburb").
The problems (of which water is just one) of California stem from misguided "liberals" (stoked by the cabal) who want to foist their agenda on the rest of us, while they allow an alien invasion and live in their insulated urban world - free from the consequences of the disaster their policies have created.
Time to suck it up California, address the problems of the bed YOU made for yourself, that now YOU have to sleep in.
Yea, the Lib's did it.
That's looking in the rear view mirror. The point is moot. There is no water.
Time to suck it up California, address the problems of the bed YOU made for yourself, that now YOU have to sleep in.
Well...Not exactly.
There is one year's water supply remaining according to JPL scientists.
The unprecedented restrictions do not apply to agriculture thus will have little affect on supply DEPLETION.
California provides ONE HALF of the Nation's FOOD.
That means that YOUR FOOD PRICES will at least DOUBLE because of the shortfall in FOOD after California can no longer produce.
And that...Well that...
That is YOUR PROBLEM as there will be massive SOCIAL UNREST due to YOUR oncoming DOMESTIC USA FAMINE.
Enjoy it you stupid BLIND fuck who obviously has been afflicted with a real bad case of MYOPIA and BITEMPORAL HEMIANOPIA.
Maybe Yellen can print up some food...
And if you have prepared, as I have?
What about all of those hordes of idiots whom have not?
They will kill you rather than see their children starve.
That is the damned truth.
If you go back to the old old Sierra Club - they knew. This is what Capt. paul Watson of the Sea Shepherds tried to argue. The (old) Sierra Club felt that excessive immigration or population migration would only make things a lot worse and they were 100% right.
Paul Watson, who is a Canadian, argued that the Sierra Club had been essentially hijacked by the Democrat Party and ruined. He was correct.
I may get down rated for this....but....the USA is one beaufitful country.
California is without a doubt...one of the most beaufitul states.
Tis a shame that we have artards here who actually want to see its demise.
Sure jewllywood is a moral cancer and modern day sodom.
But our .fedgov is geoengineering this planet and this aggression will not stand, man!
Freakin black hearted people are killing off the sheeple, but the sheeple are too dumbed down and pacified, sailing the river of denial to save themselves. Amazing to see.
um, and you're planning to storm the pentagon tomorrow right?
Liberalism destroyed California or paradise. It sort of all started to go to shit around the time of the Manson family but also Vietnam.
the other other place in the world with the same incredible geogrpahy but with better food and nicer people is Italy.
Ever been to Spain? Fantastic country.
A decade late and a trillion gallons short.
Biggest water waster in Kalifornicatia is their own gubmint (judging by the outflows to the Pacific Ocean).
California Government Is The Big Water Management Problem
www.science20.com/science_20/california_government_is_the_big_water_mana...
One would figure with the cloud seeding Geo Engineering Tech TPTB would make it rain like they did for the China Oympics.
The California has been taken over by Wall Street hacks already at least two decades ago including current governor and his wife but true issue here is another attempt to fleecing people by Hedge Funds creating hysteria of water crisis as something new or particularly acute. It is not. It is the same story, water politics in California as usual.
The dramatic announcement by governor of mandatory 25% cut in residential usage, which is 12% of total usage, is not mandatory but rather green light to utility to raise (again) basic water rates.
Rich from Palo Alto or Bell Air will be able to afford it. Again it is another political stunt (25% cut) by governor in his all familiar clown routine which would reduce total usage only 4-5% while water deficit officially is as high as 40% while frackers, bottled water, wine industry as well as water parks etc., using quarter of total water available remains untouched. Ratepayers are being robed, small business and small farms are being destroyed and this is what it’s all about.
The headline of this post does not seem to relate to the content. The fact is that California Water Authority DID NOT even follow most important governor demands and did not imposed any type of enforcements or penalties if goals are not met.
Again, this is just a talk and only regarding 12% of all California water demand. And silence about the rest. Residential usage of water dropped dramatically since 2008 not as much as conscientious conservation effort but due to severe economic crisis and large migration out of state.
Many cities already achieve 40% or more percent of savings by conservation as well as by investment in recycling and reuse and cannot continue with cuts without severe impact on economy, property values and most of all their ability to repay the incurred debt or financing water investments.
Again and again lots of noise and no real action yet.
Much more honest and balanced take on current situation in California, that distinguishes between draught and man-made water crisis I found at.
https://sostratusworks.wordpress.com/2015/03/28/california-waterworld-of...
Great post. Squeeze the residental folks and small businesses while letting the overwhelming users of water largely go scotch free. Sad thing is that there are solutions to this even today but it requires the largest users giving up a little and they'll be damned if they do especially big agriculture.
Like water from the toilet? Why would you drink that stuff anyway you should be drinking Brawndo the thirst mutilator, it's got what you crave.
A booming new business opportunity...
Nightsoil collection cart franchises. You could have hot chicks drive the trucks and call it Donut Dollies.
Ship the dried turds to China for fertilizer.
I'll make millions.
Don't let us stop you.
Art Bell would be very proud of the zh comments section.
http://artbell.com/
The important thing is that the Cali bubble real estate crashes into the dry dirt before the bastards can sell at the top and move up here (WA).
We must trap the rats in their cul de sac debtors prisons.
My parents live in Montana and they have been complaining for many years about the obnoxious Californians selling their million dollar homes and moving up to MT.
Most Montanans that I know really fucking hate Californians....
and those were the best ones.
Now I know why Nancy Pelosi looks like a Prune...
I just got back from a business trip in the Silicon Valley area.
I saw more sprinklers running on Ferrari lots and Yacth clubs than effeminate beta males. That's saying something. They obviously don't really give a fuck about being in a drought, the restrictions will only apply to commoners anyway.
Strange that all these problems exist and stock prices heading north! What a fraud!
Hail the delta smelt!!! A EPA success story of gigantic proportions. . . and consequences.
let them drink smelt !
socialist engineering failure for crisis purposes
this problem could have been solved decades ago
The Satanists will make sure that the bushes burn this summer! FIRE!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaHEusBG20c
What will the Commiefornians do when they run out of someone else's water to waste???
Start a water-for-wetback program?
Get you to pay for a huge Federal crash program of brand new desalination plants and solar farms which will pretend to power them, of course. duh! :D
It's OK, the Solar plants produce squat-all power so they'll all die of thirst anyway! Solved! :D
May I suggest Brazil for your strategic relocation...A LOT of water, just do not pick a big city like Sao Paulo...but countryside - just amazing! http://visa4brazil.com/
it used to be a joke that when "the big one" hit CA would slide into the ocean. Now it will simply crumble to dust.
btw, whenare they gonna start desalting sea water?
You have no idea what you're talking about...
Drought in São Paulo: Brazil’s Megacity on Verge of Crisis as Water Rationing, Shutoffs Continue
http://www.globalresearch.ca/drought-in-sao-paulo-megacity-on-verge-of-c...
The past three months have seen the driest winter in 84 years in southeastern Brazil. Water shortages are now critical in São Paulo, home to twenty million people. The city’s primary reservoir is fluctuating between 6-13% of capacity, and officials are estimating São Paolo’s reserves will last a mere 90 days without additional rainfall. The rainy season, from December through February, is over, and sadly, recent flooding within the city has not raised main reservoir levels, which are located further inland
At least California won't have to worry about fire hoses being turned on protestors when they start rioting. They won't be able to put out the flames on the burning buildings and cop cars either. Arson, arson, arson. Someone will end up burning that place down. Maybe ISIS will take a quick ride over there from Texas.
nor will they be able to hose down all the brush fires this year or next - gonna be a hot time in the old marxist haven this summer!
Nothing worse than a bunch of stinking millionaires. Everyone starts going around smelling like a Persian woman and I'm out of here.