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When The Elites Wage War On America, This Is How They Will Do It
Submitted by Brandon Smith via Alt-Market.com,
The consequences and patterns of war, whether by one nation against another or by a government against the citizenry, rarely change. However, the methods of war have evolved vastly in modern times. Wars by elites against populations are often so subtle that many people might not even recognize that they are under attack until it is too late. Whenever I examine the conceptions of “potential war” between individuals and oligarchy, invariably some hard-headed person cries out: “What do you mean ‘when?’ We are at war right now!” In this case, I am not talking about the subtle brand of war. I am not talking about the information war, the propaganda war, the economic war, the psychological war or the biological war. I am talking about outright warfare, and anyone who thinks we have already reached that point has no clue what real war looks like.
The recent exposure of the nationwide Jade Helm 15 exercise has made many people suspicious, and with good reason. Federal crisis exercises have a strange historical tendency to suddenly coincide with very real crisis events. We may know very little about Jade Helm beyond government admissions, claims and misdirections. But at the very least, we know what “JADE” is an acronym for: Joint Assistance for Deployment and Execution, a program designed to create action and deployment plans using computer models meant to speed up reaction times for military planners during a “crisis scenario.” It is linked with another program called ACOA (Adaptive Course of Action), the basis of which is essentially the use of past mission successes and computer models to plan future missions. Both are products of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA).
As far as I know, no one has presented any hard evidence as to what “HELM” really stands for, but the JADE portion of the exercise explicitly focuses on rapid force deployment planning in crisis situations, according to the government white paper linked above. This fact alone brings into question statements by the Department of Defense that Jade Helm is nothing more than a training program to prepare military units for “foreign deployment.” This is clearly a lie if Jade Helm revolves around crisis events (which denotes domestic threats), rather than foreign operations.
Of course, if you also consider the reality that special operations forces ALWAYS train like they fight and train in environments similar to where they will fight, the entire notion of Jade Helm as a preparation for foreign theaters sounds absurd. If special operations forces are going to fight in Iraq, Iran or Syria, they go to training grounds in places like Kuwait. If they are training in places like Fort Lauderdale, Florida (including “infiltration training”), then there is no way around the fact that they are practicing to fight somewhere exactly like Fort Lauderdale with a similar culture and population.
I would further note that Jade Helm exercises are also joint exercises with domestic agencies like the FBI and the DEA. Again, why include domestic law enforcement agencies in a military exercise merely meant to prepare troops for foreign operations? I often hear the argument that the military would never go along with such a program, but people who take this rather presumptive position do not understand crisis psychology. In the event of a national catastrophe many military personnel and government employees may determine that they will do what is "best for them and their families". And if following orders guarantees the security of their families (food security, shelter, etc), then they may very well follow any order, no matter how dubious. Also, a large scale crisis could be used as a rationale for martial law; otherwise well meaning military men and women could be convinced that the loss of constitutional freedoms might be for the "greater good of the greater number". I believe some military will indeed resist such efforts, but of course, Jade Helm may also be a method for vetting such uncooperative people before any live operation occurs.
So if Jade is actually a crisis-planning system for the military and the military is training for domestic operations, what is the crisis it is training to react to? It’s hard to say. I believe it will come down to an economic disaster, but our economic and social structures are so weak that almost any major event could trigger collapse. Terror attacks, cyberattacks, pandemic, a stiff wind, you name it. The point is the government expects a crisis to occur. And with the advent of this crisis, the ultimate war on the American people will begin.
Why wait for a crisis situation? With the cover of a crisis event, opposition to power is more easily targeted. For my starting point on the elite war strategy, I would like to use the following presentation on guerrilla warfare by Max Boot, Council on Foreign Relations senior fellow and military adviser, at the elitist World Affairs Council.
I would first point out that Boot claims his work is merely a historical character study of interesting figures from the realm of insurgency and counterinsurgency and is not “polemical.” I’m afraid that I will have call horse hockey on that. Boot is direct adviser to the Department of Defense. His work and this presentation were obviously a study of guerrilla tactics from the perspective of counterinsurgency and an attempt to explore strategic methods for controlling and eradicating guerrillas and “terrorists.”
Any defense the American people might muster against elitist dismantling of constitutional liberties would inevitably turn to "insurgency". So using CFR member Boot’s views on counterinsurgency as a guideline, here is how the elites will most likely wage open war on those within the American population who have the will to fight back.
Control Public Opinion
Boot stresses the absolute necessity for the control of public opinion in defeating an insurgency. Most of his analysis is actually quite accurate in my view in terms of successes versus failures of guerrilla movements. However, his obsession with public opinion is, in part, ill-conceived. Boot uses the American Revolution as a supposed prime example of public opinion working against the ruling powers, claiming that it was British public opinion that forced parliament and King George III to pull back from further operations in the colonies.
Now, it is important to recognize that elitists have a recurring tendency to marginalize the success of the American Revolution in particular as being a “fluke” in the historical record. Boot, of course, completely overlooks the fact that the war had progressed far longer than anyone had predicted and that the British leadership suffered under the weight of considerable debts. He also overlooks the fact that pro-independence colonials were far outnumbered by Tories loyal to the crown up to the very end of the war. The revolution was NEVER in a majority position, and public opinion was not on the revolutionaries’ side.
The very idea of the American Revolution is a bit of a bruise on the collective ego of the elites, and their bias leads them to make inaccurate studies of the event. The reality is that most revolutions, even successful ones, remain in a minority for most, if not all, of their life spans. The majority of people do not participate in history. Rather, they have a tendency to float helplessly in the tides, waiting to latch onto whatever minority movement seems to be winning at the time.
Boot suggests that had the Founding Fathers faced the Roman Empire rather than the British Empire, they would have been crucified and the rebellion would have immediately floundered because the Romans had no concern for public opinion. This is where we get into the real mind of the elitist.
For now, the establishment chooses to sway public opinion with carefully crafted disinformation. But what is the best way to deal with public opinion when fighting a modern revolution? Remove public opinion as a factor entirely so that the power elite are free to act as viciously as they wish. Engineered crisis, and economic crisis in particular, create a wash of other potential threats, including high crime, looting, riots, starvation, international conflict, etc. In such an environment, public opinion counts for very little, if people even pay attention at all to anything beyond their own desperation. Once this is achieved, the oligarchy has free reign to take morally questionable actions without fear of future blowback.
Control The Public
Another main tenet Boot describes as essential in defeating insurgency is the control of the general population in order to prevent a revolution from recruiting new members and to prevent them from using the crowd as cover. He makes it clear that control of the public does not mean winning the “hearts and minds” in a diplomatic sense, but dominating through tactical and psychological means.
He first presents the example of the French counterinsurgency in Algeria, stating that the French strategy of widespread torture, while “morally reprehensible,” was indeed successful in seeking out and destroying the insurgent leadership. Where the French went wrong, however, was their inability to keep the torture campaign quiet. Boot once again uses the public opinion argument as the reason for the eventual loss of Algeria by the French.
What Boot seems to be suggesting is that systematic torture is viable, at least as a hypothetical strategy, as long as it remains undetected by the overall public. He also reiterates this indirectly in his final list of articles for insurgency and counterinsurgency when he states that “few counterinsurgencies (governments) have succeeded by inflicting mass terror, at least in foreign lands,” suggesting that mass terror may be an option against a domestic rebellion.
Boot then goes on to describe a more effective scenario, the British success against insurgents in Malaya. He attributes the British win against the rebellion to three factors:
1) The British separated large portions of the population, entire villages, into concentration camps, surrounded by fences and armed guards. This kept the insurgents from recruiting from the more downtrodden or dissatisfied classes. And it isolated them into areas where they could be more easily engaged.
2) The British used special operations forces to target specific rebel groups and leadership rather than attempting to maneuver through vast areas in a pointless Vietnam-style surge.
3) The British made promises that appealed to the general public, including the promise of independence. This made the public more pliable and more willing to cooperate.
Now, I have no expectation whatsoever that the elites would offer the American public “independence” for their cooperation in battling a patriot insurgency, but I do think they would offer something perhaps more enticing: safety.
I believe the British/Malayan example given by Boot would be the main methodology for the elites and the federal government in the event that a rebellion arises in the U.S. against planned shifts away from constitutional republic or martial law instituted in the wake of a national emergency.
Isolate Population Centers
There is a reason why certain American cities are being buried in technologically sophisticated biometric surveillance networks, and I think the Malayan example holds the key. Certain cities (not all) could be turned into massive isolated camps, or “green zones.” They would be tightly controlled, and travel would be highly restricted. Food, shelter and safety would likely be offered, after a period of disaster has already been experienced. A couple months of famine and lack of medication to the medically dependent would no doubt kill millions of people. Unprepared survivors would flock to these areas in the hopes of receiving aid. Government forces would confiscate vital supplies in rural areas whenever possible in order to force even more people to concentrate into controlled regions.
I have seen the isolation strategy in action in part, during the G20 summit in Pittsburgh. More than 4,000 police and National Guard troops locked down the city center, leaving only one route for travel. The first day, there were almost no protesters; most activists were so frightened by the shock-and-awe show of force that they would not leave their homes. This is the closest example I have personally experienced to a martial law cityscape.
Decapitate Leadership
The liberty movement has always been a leaderless movement, which makes the “night of long knives” approach slightly less effective. I do not see any immediate advantage to the elites in kidnapping or killing prominent members of the movement, though that does not mean they will not try it anyway. Most well-known liberty proponents are teachers, not generals or political firebrands. Teachers leave all their teachings behind, and no one needs generals or politicians. The movement would not necessarily be lost without us.
That said, there is a fear factor involved in such an event. The black-bagging of popular liberty voices could terrorize others into submission or inaction. This is why I constantly argue the need for individual leadership; every person must be able and willing to take individual action without direction in defense of his own freedoms, if the need arises. Groups should remain locally led, and national centralization of leadership should be avoided at all costs.
According to the very promoters of Jade Helm exercises, training will center on quick-reaction teams striking an area with helicopter support, then exfiltrating within 30 minutes or less. Almost every combat veteran I have spoken with concerning this style of training has said that it is used for “snatch and grab” — the capture or killing of high value targets, then exfiltration before the enemy can mount a response.
Fourth-Generation Warfare
The final method for war against the American people is one Boot does not discuss: the use of fourth-generation warfare. Some call this psychological warfare, but it is far more than that. Fourth-generation warfare is a strategy by which one section of a population you wish to control is turned against another section of the population you wish to control. It is warfare without the immediate use of armies. Rather, the elites turn the enemy population against itself and allow internal war to do most of their work for them. We can see this strategy developing already in the U.S. in the manipulation of race issues and the militarization of police.
The use of provocateurs during unrest in places like Ferguson, Missouri, and Baltimore suggests that a race war is part of the greater plan. I believe law enforcement officials have also been given a false sense of invincibility. With military toys and federal funding, but poor tactical philosophies and substandard training, LEOs are being set up as cannon fodder when the SHTF. Their inevitable failure will be used as a rationalization for more domestic military involvement; but in the meantime, Americans will be enticed to fight and kill each other while the elites sit back and watch the show.
4th Gen warfare also relies on fooling the target population into supporting measures that are secretly destructive to the people. For example, liberty movement support for controlled opposition such as Russia or China, or liberty support for a military coup in which the top brass are elite puppets just like the Obama Administration. Think this sounds far fetched? It has already happened in our recent history! Marine Corp Major General Smedley Butler was hired by corporate moguls to lead a paid army in a coup against Franklin D. Roosevelt (also an elitist puppet) in 1933. Butler luckily exposed the conspiracy before it ever got off the ground. Both sides were controlled, but the coup if successful could have resulted in popular support for the expedient erosion of the Constitution, rather than a slow erosion which is what took place. This is the epitome of 4th Gen tactics - make the people think they are winning, when they are actually helping you to defeat them.
Know Thy Enemy
I have outlined the above tactics not because I necessarily think they will prevail, but because it is important that we know exactly what we are dealing with in order to better defend ourselves. Such methods can be countered with community preparedness, the avoidance of central leadership, the application of random actions rather than predictable actions, etc. Most of all, liberty champions will have to provide a certain level of safety and security for the people around them if they want to disrupt establishment efforts to lure or force the population into controlled regions. Crisis is the best weapon the elites have at their disposal, and exercises like Jade Helm show that they may use that weapon in the near term. The defense that defeats crisis is preparation — preparation not just for yourself, but for others around you. War is coming, and while we can’t know the exact timing, we can assume the worst and do our best to be ready for it as quickly as possible.
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Wow, you people are some serious kooks. The constitution is horribly outdated and should be flushed like the turd it is. Take your meds you sicko nut jobs.
which member of the bush family are you?
I still think Brandon is giving them a little but too much credit. If you are curious how the vastly technologically superior US military does against a vastly outgunned and outnumbered enemy, See: Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan.
Brandon Smith is 100% correct.
Ignore this truth at your own peril...
After decades of being dumbed down by public education, rendered idiots with flouridated water,fattened up with junk food and high fructose corn syrup, and reduced to poverty by globalism and cronyism there is no need for the elites to wage war on Americans at all. The war was lost long ago...
I called the economic collpase in the middle of Sept, Jade Helm broke the news a week after I made that call.
Hmm.
"This is how the elites will wage war" That is fture tense.
Note to Brandon: Pull your head out and realize it is not in the future, it has been going on for decades. You'd better catch up buddy boy.
in other news
Alex Jones interviews Michael Savage
Savage on Garland Shooting: There’s a Link Between White House and ISIS
A Jones, shill....too much poison in his polemic.
But yes, the war has been long on-going. The experiment that is/was the USA is reaching some culmination point.
Sounds like the Elites gave Frank Herbert the plot for Dune and what I see coming up in the USA is the Harkonnen Barony. Not quite mad max...worse.
Anyone with real skills or a desire to come work here in India, happy to help. Software, engineering etc.
Meanwhile...Sequence 15...Indian Drums...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJU_flXZMuk
Software... maybe not a skill that will be all that valuable once this goes hot. That is, unless you can hack defnets and take down satellites and drones.
When The Elites Wage War On America...
Uh... I hate to break it to the writer of the article...
But the word WHEN is seriously outdated here...
They've been fucking us for years now - please wise up!
MASSIVE FREQUENCY LIST!!!
With all the talk of "fun camps for adults" and troops runnng around people's back yard, we thought now might be a smart time to make sure our SIGINT is all up to date and good. Here is a massive list of frequencies for y'all to plug into your scanner or shortwave receiver. Make sure you have lots of extra batteries too!
A few notes about the list:
* This was compiled from recent and trusted sources, not lists floating around the internet since 1994 for radio systems long since sent to the landfill.
* All frequencies are listed in MHz.
* Many government agencies share frequencies and INTEROP channels, so the list may not be 100% on who is doing the talking.
* The list is for national frequencies, obviously we cannot list for every LEA in every county and town.
* Many frequencies listed as business are also used by GOV.
* A P25 capable scanner is best, assume that the frequencies are APCO-P25 but you may be able to pick up analog FM conversations.
* Most of the important P25 traffic will be encrypted. Most INTEROP will not be and chatter is still chatter.
* Canadian frequencies have been included for those in Canada and close to the border.
* Even though analog TV and analog paging has largely been phased out, frequencies have been included both for historical reference and because old gear can be turned on post-SHTF.
* You can achieve faster scan rates by entering frequencies from lowest to highest and not randomly (eg. 154.100, 154.200, 154.300, etc)
* If you only have a scanner, just pay attention to the left-most column. The second column is for repeater inputs and the third is for tones.
* Remember when to practice radio silence and remember that Charlie is listening!
http://www.filedropper.com/frequencies
Can Zombies use scanners after the SHTF?
Is that even possible?
Where's my muscle?
all in all a reasonably good presentation for a CFR lackey (basically emphasizing the importance of using politics, propaganda and public opinion as a force multiplier in conflicts of all sort).
I find it interesting that he idolizes Che Guevara (18:20)
we'll see how effective this emphasis is on the American public, in the trial run currently being referred to as Jade Helm. Based on what I see as far as general understanding - in the news, in co-workers and friends.. I (regrettably) suspect that the policy makers in the CFR will ultimately be successful in shaping public opinion, by and large.
Zombies are using them now... :D
1st structure to take down, power grid...
for civilians, any computing skill is utterly BS. kids must learn to make fire with wood by hands, the fingering on tablet is already osbolete skill.. most people just don't know it yet.
That's why I'm going off the grid, so the anarchist don't fuck with my coffee!!!!! :D
If you're off the grid, your coffee is good coffee, and safe. The anarchists won't fuck with people who aren't fucking with them.
Savage is a idiot over indulged in his own self absorbed admiration. Alex Jones is a Zionist shill. Two false flag morons!
Even though Savage is a moron, and about half of what Jones says is BS -- half of what he says is correct, which makes him way more correct than CNBC, Fox, MSM bullshit in general.
Fuck Savage though. He has good stuff to say, but I cannot disagree more re Israel, and the straw that broke my back with Savage is when he said "Thank God for the bombing of Dresden."
I turned him off and never back on again.
+1000
I've avoided the Jones scene - it immediately struck me as a limited hangout Rush Limbaugh clone. No stomach for that here.
But if Savage said "Thank God for the bombing of Dresden." .... wtf. Words fail me.
www.prisonplanet.com
www.infowars.com
A young(er) Alex Jones appears at the end of A Noble Lie on site in OKC, so as far as I'm concerned he cut his teeth on one of the first demonstrably provable FFs. Anonymous people on the Internet calling him a "shill", "controlled opposition", etc. actually makes a lot of sense when you think about it. I don't "hang out" anywhere, but to reject an information source out of hand to me is profoundly unwise.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout
For me it's almost funny to look back to not so many years ago, when I actually beleived some of this stuff. I always tried to take it with a large grain of salt.
Then when I actually took a look at 911, enstead of taking anybody's word for it, my entire knowlege base collapsed.
Needless to say I am unspeakably pissed, not that it matters to anyone but myself. It is troubling to discover what 'the great satan' really is.
And one statist Cypher with 10 barking seal upvoters. Everyone report for work on time today? Excellent
You should probably read the first paragraph of an article before criticizing it, Muddy:
"Whenever I examine the conceptions of “potential war” between individuals and oligarchy, invariably some hard-headed person cries out: “What do you mean ‘when?’ We are at war right now!” In this case, I am not talking about the subtle brand of war. I am not talking about the information war, the propaganda war, the economic war, the psychological war or the biological war. I am talking about outright warfare, and anyone who thinks we have already reached that point has no clue what real war looks like..."
Sounds pretty clear to me. He's talking about open warfare, not the subtle bullshit you're talking about.
Okay, but the elites DO NOT WANT open war. They are controlling the population with propoganda, fake elections, etc. It would be stupid to wake everyone up by starting a real war.
That would mark the beginning of the end of their rule. They would appear to be winning for a long time. Many people would suffer and die. But eventually the people would win out. It would be like the former soviet union. Everyone would be pretending to work and cooperate, but deep down they would be resisting in small ways.
Brandon Smith is a dumb ass. Ignore all this bullshit.
They don't control all of us, and that is the probelm. If they controlled all of us there wouldn't have been a Bundy Ranch incident. The elites don't have a choice because they know eventually we will be coming for them. You make the mistake of thinking all this action is one sided. It's not. Smith gets this, which is why most of the people here are not ignoring him. He's smarter than you, so maybe try to learn something.
Very astute.
It's funny people say "The NWO/One World Government is *COMING*"
Congress secured global governance in 1941. Read the Atlantic Charter. Better than anything, it shows that WWII was just another Theater of War. The script has already been written.
Oh, and the war has been going on for at least 3000 years.
It IS war. People are being killed by the hundreds of thousands. In the US. Just because a pompous windbag needs to set the conditions for what war "means" to suit his bombastic, narrow little world view does not change the fact that this is war.
4GW. Lawfare factors heavily.
"Open warfare" is unnecessary. Counterproductive in fact. The best and highest form of warfare is one in which the enemy does not even realize they are being attacked, killed, and enslaved.
Read "Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars." Oh, and Sun Tzu.
Sadly, it appears the Sociopath race/subspecies is winning by every indication.
Nope. You vastly underestimate the resistance. We are armed to the teeth! And here's something no one is considering, the Russians just might arm and support US dissidents who fight against Langley and the Rothschilds! How 'bout them apples?
Exhibit A: Two body-armored, AK wielding Obama operatives brushed aside by a TEXAS cop with a pistol. Booooyah!!!!
How, exactly, do you plan to fight against drones? Do not make the fatal mistake of assuming you can take DC and the war is won or some such. The US Mil has bases all over the world from which to operate. You will likely never see the people who are shooting at you.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying there is no point. It is just that you have to have realistic expectations. You might hold the valley but you will lose people every day and never see the enemy. It would be like living under eternal siege from above.
Drones are a paper tiger. They rely on thermal vision, which is not magic. That guy in PA evaded helicopter thermal for weeks in the forest before he was finally caught by a random patrol. If a drone can't see you, it can't kill you.
Spark gap jamming.
Easy peasy
drones also rely on GPS so if satelites are down then the drones are down
Sparky!
Kick out the jams.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/144583718/How-To-Kill-A-Drone--Since-Drones-...
GPS SAT is covered as well.
How come they don't do this in the Middle East?
The fight for freedom is universal, in fact, if you are not willing to fight for your life (freedom), then you don't deserve it. The "sleeping giant", aka the slumbering Americans, have been under attack since the day they were born. It is easy to mock them. It is nearly impossible to believe in them. But you have no choice. Because they, like you, want to be free. And God wants you to be free. The atheists will mock, but they will be on their knees soon enough. If you look at early American history, you will see that when Washington's ragtag army was about to be defeated, God blew the English ships backwards with fearsome winds, and then hid the Minutemen with dense fog which appeared out of nowhere. This is a spiritual battle, but will be fought mostly in the physical realm. So, drones are nothing to worry about, it is your courage and fear of letting the rest of us down which should be keeping you up at night.
I'm afraid, very afraid, that you are full of shit. You are operating on false assumptions. I'm an athiest and I value freedom just as much as your average god-fearing man. And it is only god-fearing men who fall to their knees. Athiests will be there fighting against this religious cultist zionist luciferian army before you will because our minds won't be manipulated by them to believe it is a cause for the greater good against evil, which many religious people, being gullible as they are, will.
I know this sounds primitive to you and you will mark it off as self-deception but in times of danger, my belief in God calms my nerves and steadies my heart rate, an important factor at crunch time.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&u...
In medieval times, before engaging in a major (or any) battle, the troops would first have a religious ceremony, mass and prayer basically, out on the (soon to be) battleground, led by a priest.
Its like you said, it was supposed to calm you down, help you avoid an adrenaline dump I imagine.
You should be very afraid, for hard times are coming and you are correct - the Christian is reminded to not fear the death of the flesh. It is the second death that one must fear. Do you really think that the energy that powers your introspection just goes away without the heartbeat?
Yes
The US is a vast country with a shitload of people. There aren't enough drones to subdue Afghanistan, much less the US. Besides, one of the places that they fly them out of is ~150 miles from me. If it comes to the point where I am going to take up arms, I'm going to play dirtier than the other side if at all possible.
Plan for drones ranging from the size needed to deliver Amazon packages to fly sized drones. Think of the drones as an physical extension of the NSA computers.
There is no limit to their numbers when bottomless money is applied.
However, there are natural limits to what the very small ones can do. Fly sized drones won't have jack shit for range.
Yeah, it won't be a set-piece Napoleonic type of war with static lines of combatants but remember we'll have drones too (and moles & "traitors"...lol) and they will have more of an impact overall.
Meaning, a house gets targeted and a patriot, errr umm, a terrrrist and his family meet an untimely end. I'm sure TPTB think that would be a rousing success. Now think of a senator or statist-general and his family having the same thing happen to them.
Psychologically its a very different equation as they are not used to being actively targeted themselves, they will know they are not safe anywhere, nowhere to hide even with each other not knowing who among them has turned.
Very different.
Exactly, read some Matt Bracken and you'll find that very scenario in his books.
It is going to be very interesting to see what happens with all the former soldiers who were deployed to the ME realizing that those who deployed them are now trying to do them in here in the states.
We live in interesting times, indeed!
I always enjoy Brandon's perspective...
DaddyO
"Holding the valley" would be an "unrealistic expectation" and a very poor tactical decision.
Agreed. I tend to be a bit dismissive of "conspiracy theories" in general because most of them are..... well, everyone is entitled to their opinion, I guess. But then you hear a well-posed question like this and you really have to wonder what the fuck is up:
"So if Jade is actually a crisis-planning system for the military and the military is training for domestic operations, what is the crisis it is training to react to?"
It's a valid damned question.
Brandon Smith gives me the spooks because his writing is the most level headed and well documented out there. At least with the Alex Jones types you can laugh it off once in awhile is "hype" but not with this guy, he zero's in from a rational perspective and it ain't pretty.
NoDebt
Everyone here knows this standoff with Russia in the Ukraine is contrived and BOGUS. And Brandon is correct in his assessment of the false left/right USA/Russia paradigms. So it may have something to do with a limited (and staged) nuclear war with Russia which would create the resultant societal shock and economic collapse necessary to bring about the conditions where the American citizens would voluntarily cede their sovereingty to a NWO.
They love to stage big shows after all...
(Long lecture here but well worth the excellent historical perspective on the CFR and it's quest for the NWO for later...)
? The Shadows of Power: The Council on Foreign Relations and the American Decline | James Perloff - YouTube
There was a strange article from the CFR back in 2006 suggesting first strike against Russia possible...
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/2006-03-01/rise-us...
Then you get the current Cheyenne mountain and D.C. nuclear shelter renos...
http://news.yahoo.com/us-aerospace-command-moving-comms-gear-back-cold-0...
Look... everyone knows that Russia and China have both publicly expressed support for an IMF SRD global currency yet their populations as well as the US's are all extremely nationalistic at the moment. That poses a huge problem for the NWO. A staged nuclear war would create the perfect conditions to sell the NWO around the global. Peace and Prosperity for the Planet. Which is amazing since they were literally behind every confrontation America has ever been in.
Just a long-shot crazy hunch and I've been wrong before... and I am really hoping this is also one of those times.
One wonders when said renovations will be completed. One thinks they would not get the ball rolling until those things are complete.
It's a chilling thought isn't it... but then again these folks are complete sociopaths.
And Lindsay Graham suggesting Charleston may be nuked doesn't help...
http://www.activistpost.com/2015/05/is-new-world-order-dying-10-recent.html
I thank you for that.
There is still some hope.
And I may actually get some better sleep tonite...
There is some truth to the list outlined in the above link, however, TPTB are all in at this point. It is just a matter of when, not if...
DaddyO
Minor setbacks, yes, but they will probably accellerate the coming of chaos if they think they are loosing.
Prediction based on gut intuition only -- this will be a summer of increasing discord and disruption, and then the major economic collapse will commense in September.
The US High Command has been planning for a nuclear first strike against the Soviet Union, and now Russia, since 1945. Strategically and morally, they are every bit as bat-shit crazy as Peter Seller's General Jack D. Ripper in Doctor Strangelove, and the Russian high command knows it.
No one is better prepared by their historical experiences than the Russians to grok what an out-of-control world conflagration could look like. Soviet Primier Nikita Khrushchev was a top aide to Stalin during WW II and was the general in charge of the very effective partisan war behind Nazi lines that spanned ten countries and a million square miles. His autobiography (which I can't lay my hands on now) contains an eleoquent plea to the world to pull back from preparations for world war. Paraphrasing as best I can words I last saw in print nearly 50 years ago, he wrote:
- Those who imagine a quick war with a clean end fail to understand that once general warfare begins, it sweeps uncontrollably back and forth across countries and continents, consuming and destroying everything in its path until all the available fuel has been exhausted.
That, I believe from what I've been reading on Saker.is, is how the Russian leadership understands war to this day. Insane as the logic of it may be, they believe that being ready - and convincing the Empire they are ready - to fight a nuclear war if it is forced upon them is their only hope of deterring one, other than surrender. (Arguably, they may consider that they tried surrendering once, in 1991, and well, here they are again!) However I have seen no sign they ever consider nuclear warfare as a game that could be engaged in in a limited way or that could be initiated in the hope of winning anything worth the cost.
The Empire's Ukraine adventure has evidently pushed the Russian leadership to a line of defense that they believe to be strategically necessary to hold at all costs, yet even now their caution is on clear display. In this they resemble Stalin, who in 1941 held onto the hope of avoiding war with Germany until the very morning of Hitler's attack.
If the Russian generals ever resort to the first use of nuclear weapons it will be because they have concluded that all hope of avoiding a global war is lost, or that it has alredy begun.
Good analysis. Anyone in the US who thinks that it will not be hit, for the first time, even if it starts conventionally, is deluding themselves.
All those Russian subs off the US East Coast don't just have nukes, there are plenty of big conventional cruise missiles too.
The Russians are also expert at truck and railway based missiles, easily camouflaged into shipping containers.
Whatever happens, it will not go to plan.
They will react to either a manufactured economic collapse or a catastrophic false flag terror event.
He very well may be. I just think people get too caught up in that kind of thinking sometimes. This guy and countless others like him, who comprise the elite who tell the whores in congres what to do, have been pontificating on shit like this for decades, and when given a chance to do them, nothing but failure at every turn. They have yet to subdue a bunch of cave dwellers with AKs in one of the most dirt poor countries in the world, I doubt they would have any more luck here, and there is a lot more space. While we all like to talk about the evils govt perpetuates, we sometimes assign an 'evil genius' type status to them despite the fact that in most areas, the government and those who steer it have proven themselves to be incompetent.
Again, subduing Afghanistan was probably never the goal. Controlling the heroin was accomplished very nicely despite the larger failure.
You have a point but the NWO actually considers Iraq and Libya to be successes.
It is not a win/lose issue anymore. The goal is to wreak maximum destruction of infrastructure and society along the lines of the Yinon plan. The first choice is to have two adversaries fight each other as in Iraq/Iran...ISIS/Syria... If not then just level everything... Yemen, Libya, Afghan... The end result is the same no stong cohesive state is capable of emerging and threatening NWO interests.
The oil in Iraq and Libya doesn't hit the market in the same quantities (good for big oil)
The infrastructure repair requires IMF WB loans and approval of the new US brokered gov. (good for banks, contractors and big oil)
The lack of abilty to repay the loans which will be mostly pilfered by corrupt leaders results in transfers of the nations resources to the bankers and neolibs and financial enslavement of the population.
A victory to bankers is unlike any other victory imaginable...
Oh I agree on most of that. Selling more weapons and creating debt was accomplished in spades. They don't give a shit about the people they kill, Americans or otherwise. I just don't think keeping the oil off the market was the goal though, it was more about ensuring it was sold for dollars. But my original premise still holds, unless you think they fucked up all these occupations on purpose, which I don't buy, they still haven't demonstrated that they are capable of occupying and subduing a pretty small population and territory, especially compared to the US.
That "success" is predicated on monolithic definition and homogeneous composition of the NWO.
So true. Any region/area that they cannot control and exploit, directly or indirectly, and is not a vassal state (much of western Europe/nato), has been/will be turned into a dumpster fire (e.g. afghanistan, libya, iraq).
"Almost every combat veteran I have spoken with concerning this style of training has said that it is used for “snatch and grab” — the capture or killing of high value targets, then exfiltration before the enemy can mount a response."
One has to ask themselves how many resources it must take to pull off a constant stream of snatch and grab events.
We all know how well the Mogadishu snatch n grab affair ended.
Well, those aren't good conflicts to examine because this:
http://www.sott.net/article/296111-Chaos-not-victory-is-the-Empires-name...
The goal in those places wasn't to win but to create chaos and make money while doing so. Here, they will pull out all the stops. Count on it.
Brandon is otherwise quite correct, and pray that this article is read and digested by millions...pass it on, folks.
The Vietnamese, Iraqi, and Afghani populations are likely better fighters than ours will be. They are used to exerting themselves outdoors, they know hunger and exposure to the environment, and they've lived death. We're out of shape, coddled, spoiled man children.
Additionally, the military understands American psychology and culture better and they know the territory. They can blend in more easily here than many of us can. Id take a malnurished vietnamese rice farmer in the jungle with a crappy AK over an obese american with a top dollar tacticool AR any day.
Perhaps those wars were not ever meant to be really won or we'd have committed to total victory and the costs associated. A war that is won probably isn't as profitable.
Perhaps those wars were meant to slowly grind down the US and the rest of the west.
Perhaps the "them" to whom you refer are even more devious than the author assumes. How would you reduce the population as per the Georgia Guidestones? You could force populations into cities. Cities are unnatural and represent the ultimate in pollution. Look at China. Anyway, get everyone into the cities and then nuke them. This reduces the number and size of the nukes necessary to kill huge numbers and while leaving the wide open spaces depopulated but also still livable.
Yeah, except for the fallout that lands on the fields where the food is grown.
Actually, if you look to the religious ideology that the Iraqi and Afghanis had - the faith they placed in the Islamic religion namely and its requirement for them to fight the kafir - that is what is lacking in the US population. The US population might actually be easier to subdue than the Iraqis and Afghanis because by and large most Americans are Godless and faithless. Even the Vietmanese had an ideology to give them a 'reason' to live and fight.
The Americans have truly become Godless and that may be their ultimate undoing.
Believing in a magical being isn't necessary for one to care about themselves, to be motivated, to get off the couch, to do something with their lives, or to fight for themselves.
The problem with America is not that we've become godless, the problem is that we've been so coddled, and that our lives have become so easy, peaceful, lazy, and dependent upon government and giant corporations, that we've become practically incapable of surviving, let alone fighting back, without them.
Let me remind you that all of this is the long, drawn-out consequence of Christianity, not something that the religion (or any other major religion in the world right now) is the answer to or could prevent. Christianity empowered the low classes over the past two milleniums to overthrow the aristocracies and existing power structures and give rise to "democracy" and the universal morality of "equality". This situation, created by Christianity, was fundamentally untenable/volatile from the beginning because the low classes could not rule -- in fact, their only desire, taught to them by religion, was to eliminate all ruling and to pity/promote weakness (the poor and downtrodden) in mankind everywhere. Due to their origins in the low class and the values instilled in them via Christianity, all that these people wanted out of life, and all that most Americans still want out of life, was to make it easier, more comfortable, and reduce the amount of suffering. The end goal is to be able to become weaker themselves (ie. ultimate safety, security), and it's accomplished by weakening others to render them harmless (under the guise of positive-sounding euphemisms like "equality", "non-discrimination", "charity", etc).
Even if the shell of a magical god was still believed in and empowered society to the extent that we worked tirelessly to convert everyone to the religion, we'd still end up in the same place in the end -- he's irrelevant. The problem is that we lack any subjective purposes. Our morality is a universal one (applied to everyone "equally"). We lack enemies, rivals, causes, and subjective purposes (or, we seek to eliminate them, and will then lack them). We wage war against war itself, against life itself, instead of as part of the endless drama of life. We don't understand that one is precisely as strong as one's enemies are, or we may desire stronger enemies instead of weaker ones and think twice about wanting to utterly eliminate our enemies as we currently do.
It's inevitable that, as this pathetic society lulls itself into a deep and comfortable sleep, new powers will eventually impose themselves over us. The worst case scenario for humanity would be for those new powers to be bacteria and insects. But it's unlikely that we'll fall that far presently, as there are still many humans capable of ruling, who are waiting in the shadows for our culture to sufficiently decline. We haven't yet, for example, genetically modified ourselves to permanently physically weaken/debilitate ourselves, or developed a self-sustaining mechanical world to impose a static, irrevokable, mechanical order over us. Although Christianity has operated by-and-large to make humans dislike life, miserable, and long for a "different" world, and left its values behind even as the mystical part of it has largely worn off in us, we haven't ended our evolution, the power struggle, or life as we know it, yet. (And a few of us hope that we never will.)
Elements of the government of the United States admittedly excel at destabilization and insurgency. However, their capacities at sucking big bags of dicks are vastly superior to their counter insurgency capacities.
Max Boot's bio is not indicative of effective counter insurgency strategy. Neither Op-Eds or interviewing the inept in Iraq or Afganistan is going to teach you how to do counter insurgency effectively. There are guys within 1SFG and other groups that do know their shit, but they are NOT running the show, and they are a relatively small part of whatever the US's overall counter insurgency plans are. The guys who are running the show are more like David Betrayus and Max Boot, writing stale books that make the intellectual/technocrat class feel empowered to combat the problem of an insurgency.
I spent a couple years in SE Asia advising a government on counter insurgency. Other than the obligatory paperwork I actually spent most of my time in civilian clothes pulling an atypical rendition of Isiah 22:13. I interviewed retired generals and admirals who had succeeded after and where the mighty MIC had retreated with its tail between its legs after having failed to contain the "dominoes" or "Red Menace" or whatever term the propagandists used the oversimplify and mischaracterize the enemy. When you move from the tactical to the strategic in successful counter insurgency, book length answers camouflage ignorance.
"Winning" is really "not complicated". If fact it is seductively simple, even if it requires hard work, sacrifice, and complex and counter-intuitive tactics on the front line. Effective counter insurgency is about waging peace, not waging war. There are only two paths (rarely mutually exclusive) to neutralizing your adversary- 1) kill your adversary, or 2) buy off your adversary. Whack-a-mole is not a valid strategy or analogy. In the intellectual arcade there may a linear relationship between the one mole you whack and the next one that pops up, but in the real world the relationship is non-linear and the results more comparable to cancer.
Max Boot is not into "Winning." One need look no further than the Googlebot. You don't simply do drones "smarter" (i.e. tweak a counter productive tactic) and magically arrive at a winning strategy.
The US will not, and can not, win at domestic counter insurgency. Not even on paper. One would need to presuppose the paper outcome and reverse engineer (goalseek) a path to the given conclusion. That's simply not the way the real world works. That's not to say to their won't be "costs." In war the individual is inconsequential, and every individual is expendable, just ask Mrs. Lincoln how the theater was.
The military results in those campaigns were/are certainly affected by the political restraints imposed upon the military. ROE's such as you can't shoot a guy running with an RPG until you are shot at first and if they hide in a Mosque they are untouchable have a little to do with it.
Let's hope so!!
This is nothing more than the age old battle of good versus evil. Who's side are you on?
It's 'whose' and my money is on Evil, best 2 out of 3.
You're right. And you are wrong.
To win, evil needs to turn good to evil or failing that eradicate the good. They use the dialectic as their main tool. Evil requires itself to be in power over others. It requires constant diligence and diligence burns out.
To win, all good needs to do is survive as good and not become evil. Good will always re-emerge. Good does not need or want to dominate evil. That is counter productive.
Good, like evil, is something that can never be eradicated. Tides ebb and flow as does control but even in North Korea today you are certain to find millions of good people. Eventually the evil that rules them will see their machinery of control rust and break and the good will rise again. There has never been a dictatorship in all of history that lasted forever.
It's time for you to enter the 20th century.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_Good_and_Evil
Which member of the Hitler family are you, kook boy?
Wait, has anyone seen MDB? Maybe he's getting lazy and turning to bath salts.
Please tell my why Jade Helm isn't being held in NJ, NY, MA, CT and RI?
My guess is that they want to keep it as an exercise. Move it to the east coast and the military would probably get its ass kicked by locals minuderstanding their benign intentions.
Those folks will be controled by food and water supplies as well as easily surounded and immobolized. The treat is out west and in the midwest.
Yeh, we can out moralize and philosophize and compartmentalize against the best in the world and hold our own.
We got's Ivy League lawyers too, for the coup de gras.
It's "misunderstanding". And this is no exercise.
Thats were they will hold parades for the stormtroopers.
gotta love it...a psycho nut job calling somebody else a "kook" lol! you cant make this stuff up, people!
Bandar Bush! The Arab Bush.
Do you know what I did with my meds? I can't find them anywhere. And I'm pretty sure my wife hid my tinfoil hat again...
We are going to need a copper colander before this is over. Tin foil is to fragile.
Wear a normal hat, just line it with tin foil.
Otherwise the tin foil hat itself is like a bulls eye on your head...
If you are refering to the serial sociopaths and psychopaths at the CFR with their wet dreams of a Rothschildean NWO Tyranny of the Elite then I am 100% behind you.
If not kindly FUCK OFF AND DIE
~ thanks
IMO. that's MDB style parody.
16 weeks 1 day. Boy, prepare to have your ass handed to you.
His ass already has a hand in it.
And it's the stinking claw of Valerie Jarrett.
captcha was a pia but maybe it should come back
https://youtu.be/n9q7EjHxYsE?t=40s
I love that band. It's been a long time since we've heard new music like that. Bravo to them.
Thanks for introducing me to this great band.
Another great version of The Band song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QGHIWxdS-Q
Suspect that when they release the TPP (Trans-Pacific Pact), they will need Jade Helm 15, when the fallout of said Pact takes hold.
Wow, you people are some serious kooks. - Says the first commenter.
The constitution is horribly outdated and should be flushed like the turd it is. - First please explain how? Also your grammar is absolutely terrible....this is not how to end a sentence.
Take your meds you sicko nut jobs. - Again, says the first commenter.
Not all the bots have been trained to communicate in English.
They all speak Douche.
Douche Reich rules!
The irony is strong with this one.
The founders didn't anticipate threats such as Al-Qaeda hell bent on destroying our way of life and abusing the freedoms it established.
ISIS IS EVEN WORSE. Take this upvote.
Wake up. Al Queda and ISIS are CIA/Mossad.
People are too stoopid(sic) to see how "terror groups" are funded, seeded and manipulated by our so-called "Security Agencies"
Look up COINTELPRO, OPERATION NORTHWOODS...its been around for a long long time
Anyone that deluded...this late in the game....is not worth saving.
Some stupid is terminal.
Is that you W?
The founders also told us to stay the fuck out of entangling alliances with foreign countries, else you end up fighting their battles.
And look! Being up israel's ass has brought us nothing but peace and love.
'Wow, you people are some serious kooks. The constitution is horribly outdated and should be flushed like the turd it is. Take your meds you sicko nut jobs."
Glad to see you back MDB
Yeah, better to just be a good little serf and obey your betters, right?
Is that you MDB? Is this me?
good luck getting people to look at their food. and drink.
5 Minutes into any "takeover" the home-arsenals will come out to play and the regular troops will join the poor unwashed masses. It'll be a non-issue with its last moments looking like some poor 80's comedy with people running onto runways with luggage full of bullion and rich old men yelling at thier servants etc etc....
You forgot to mention all the bets. "Hey Billy, I'll bet you $5 I can put this .300winmag bullet through that Gulfstream windshield."
Dude....I think you can sense the EPICNESS of the scale of this event.....LOL
Somethng..something..some guy from a Civil-War reinactment society using a reproduction 1812 brass-cannon to blow the doors of an elites bunker...then drinking a budweiser....
*sniff*....`murica....
Budweiser? Nah. Maybe some locally procured whiskey. If those assholes are in a bunker, and it were me. I'd get a trackhoe and bury their entrance with concrete debris, then get a lawnchair, find some shade and wait for them to pop up like prarie dogs. Prairie dogs don't like .25-06 rounds, and I reckon the bunker folks won't either.
It's not that simple. I believe that the military is just as divided as we are. Furthermore, where was your last meal produced? If you can answer that every day, you're good to go. If you can never answer that, you're at the mercy of others. If you can answer that some of the time, you're up in the air. I'm in the third group right now.
This won't be a comedy.
It's not the 3% on the outside, it's the 20% on the inside. (Best calculation I've seen based on contemporary evidence elsewhere.) God damn you Pareto!
No, but it will have its lighter moments. I do recall some Confederate beating the crap out of some northern congressman during the retreat from Bull Run.
Fuck Obama!
Absolutely. Even if none of this is (was) true, Fuck him for turning our country into a place where we must worry about our own government on this level. I hope he gets his justice good and hard before I go to glory and I get to witness it.
Look behind the curtain.
I wouldn't fuck him with your dick... don't know where he's been..
Besides, I don't swing that way.
"in the event of a national catastrophe many military personnel and government employees may determine that they will do what is "best for them and their families". And if following orders guarantees the security of their families (food security, shelter, etc), then they may very well follow any order, no matter how dubious."
The entire plan of the elites hinges on their knowledge that it is easy to hire a part of a population to suppress and repress another part of the population. The elites believe they can hire 10-20% of Americans to enforce the elite's will on the other 80%. The elites see this as a bargain at the price of keeping 10-20% well fed and well paid to perform repression work. This is why the elites sleep well at night, knowing average people will compete for repression jobs in military and cop units.
History proves what I said, over and over again. Government can always wage war on it's majority, because a willing minority will always serve for money and security. Asked to kill fellow Americans, they will gun us down like fucking flies. Believe it! Because it is a fact. Ask for concentration camps guards to starve and work 90 million Americans to death, and 20 million Americans will apply for the jobs. Look out for number 1, that concept makes every American a potential foot soldier for our elite zionists. Zion uses us non-humans to kill eachother so the chosen can prosper. If Americans can't turn the fucking TV off and get over the Zionist mind control, we are all screwed.
That's only as good as the supporting logistics. The government manages to turn just about everything into a shitshow these days, so don't count on troop morale.
Everything is made in China now. Worst case, China has many millions of military age men who have no hope of ever finding a bride in China so they might as put on a uniform and get to keep what they kill. That's just one possibility.
The other thing is that immigrants (mainly illegal) who have no loyalty to America or Americans will be allowed into the military as a way of making them legal. All they have to do is follow orders. US troops from south of the border always score highest of all troops when asked if they are willing to fire on American civilians if ordered.
Oh and drones.... they don't see the damage up close and you can't easily bring them down. Moral is not a problem here either.
So yeah, they've probably thought of all these things.
Why don't you just go down to the Fusion Center now and bend over and show them your Hello Kitty panties?
Nazi's in occupied Poland, for instance, used Jews to round up other Jews. Naive volunteers believed they were earning favors with the Germans. However when the herd was thin enough, the guards themselves were shipped off to very same gas chambers and concentration camps where they sent their former neighbors.
During German's attempted expansion into Africa and Egypt I remember reading about a brigade of just 12 officers who were able to effectively control a population of 2 million locals via the very same hierarchical structure used in Poland.
It takes very few organized men to control very large masses. This country is a living proof of that. We've had many riots throughout the years. Many encounters with the authorities where population vastly outnumbered the officers called in to protect the establishment. All the riots ended and all accomplished squat. The only new laws that came into effect because of public outcries are ones designed to keep people silent and subdued.
Every conflict is a step forward and 10 steps back. We don't learn our lessons, but "they" do. Each time they come better armed and better coordinated. They pass their tactics from generation to generation and from agency to agency. Protestors and rioters, on the other hand, are as if they were born yesterday. Same ineffective bullshit over and over. Lessons of the past never learned.
We do learn.
Just reading your post tells me this. Critical mass. That's the key.
big diff from the wo examples you cite - these guys had their personal assets - like wife, kids, house, cars - far away from those who could threaten these assets.
this is not so for a domestic conflict here.
let's say troops are deployed from far away - as the Chinese did in Tiananmen.
whether maine and alaskan guard will be willing to whack Okies for $$s remains to be seen, but many have their personal assets publicly exposed in this country and okies might have some cousins in Maine and alaska.
Jesus, Jack. You just summed it up perfectly.
The ass end of the US forces will be here to defend us when things go hot. The best, most righteous Constitution-loving soldiers will be in Ukraine, where they can do no good whatsoever.
You appear to have a firm grasp on the tactical approaches, Jack Burton. However, I am not confident that the most successful short-term tactics necessarily work as a good strategy in the longer term. But nevertheless, I see your comment as supporting the overall apparently correct analysis of the tragic trajectory we are on ...
Take a look at history:
When the trends towards fascism go berserk,
the first people they kill are the intellectuals!
Due to the degree that the American public "money" supply has ALREADY been almost totally privatized, the best organized gangs of criminals that succeeding in doing that were ALREADY committed to attempting to consolidate their control.
There has always been on an overall average exponential growth curve, not just in America, but throughout the history of social pyramid systems, which were ALWAYS based on being able to back up lies with violence. In my view, those systems must eventually become psychotically mad, and destroy themselves, because enforcing frauds can never stop those frauds from being false. However, as the article above outlines, there will be severe social storms that blow through, which cause the psychotic breakdowns of those mad systems which endeavour to enforce frauds to hilt.
I REPEATED my general perspective under these articles:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-28/turning-america-battlefield-blueprint-locking-down-nation
Turning America Into A Battlefield: A Blueprint For Locking Down The Nation
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-05/we-will-evolve-through-crisis-not-proactive-change
"We Will Evolve Through Crisis, Not Proactive Change..."
Good to see you back Rad... evolving to a NWO through CRISIS indeed. They will always double down on an insane plan when things don't go as planned rather than concede defeat. If they concede now they will certainly hang.
Any thoughts on the nature of this upcoming conflict? I was working on the 'contrived limited nuclear war' with Russia angle which could work if Brandon is right about the NWO goal. (Which he is... see the History of the CFR lecture above...)
Anyway... back to Cheyenne Mountain... reno on the nuke shelter in D.C. ... Lindsay and his Charleston may get nuked comments...
Interesting times. And not in a good way...
I agree, with one reservation. 'History' tells us that intellectuals are the first to be eliminated/imprisoned in cases of mass unrest. I'd argue that only societies which VALUE their intellectuals would do this. Only societies which understand the power cache of said intellectuals.
In this way, the US has broken the mold. With each passing decade, 'intellectualism' is more and more marginalized. So in the end, even those that have somehow managed to retain their 'intellectual' qualities may as well be from Mars for all it's worth.
Americans will not be rounded up for their individual qualities. It will all be tactical manuveuring. "Get on this bus, since your town will no longer be supplied with foodstuffs".
You are right, L Bean:
"... those that have somehow managed to retain their 'intellectual' qualities may as well be from Mars for all it's worth."
Most, if not every revolution in the past 50 years was made possible by a committed, dedicated , motivated 10-15% of the population, as well as outside help. That's why I support Assad,iran, Putin and China -there has to be an outside opposition -a balance to a totlalitarian state like the US - if not, anyone would be a fool to join the opposition here and face certain slaughter -If the United States and their Zionist rulers conquer and subjugate the World -they will roll over and destroy any opposition here. 100 million guns here will not help -they will destroy any opposition with an army of drones from afar -we'll never know what hit us. Millions of inncoents killed in such attacks will be collateral damage. They care not who and how many they kill -the same mentality as Stalinist Russia and Maoist China. People are ants - goy-cattle.
Viktor Frankl in his book Man's Search for Meaning, which was based on his experiences in 4 concentration camps, also concludes that there are only two races of men, decent men and indecent. No society is free of either of them, and thus there were "decent" Nazi guards and "indecent" prisoners, most notably the kapo who would torture and abuse their fellow prisoners for personal gain. He described the Kapo as even more cruel than the guards.
As much as I trust my friends and neighbors, can anyone truly know the hearts of anyone? Duress is a powerful force few of us have experienced at an extreme level.
Miffed