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Chinese Company Moves To Replace 90% Of Its Workforce With Robots

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Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

I’m not one of those people who thinks robots taking over menial labor from human employees is a bad thing. On the contrary, I think such a displacement could ultimately prove very positive for the species. Nevertheless, the short-term pain and suffering that this could cause for displaced workers and their families likely will have tremendous negative repercussions to the societies that are most affected in the near and intermediate-term.

Since robots entering the workforce is probably one of the most significant economic trends in the decades ahead, we should all start thinking about how to deal with what will be a major adjustment for hundreds of millions, if not billions, of people.

From the South China Morning Post:

Construction work has begun on the first factory in China’s manufacturing hub of Dongguan to use only robots for production, the official Xinhua news agency reported.

 

A total of 1,000 robots would be introduced at the factory initially, run by Shenzhen Evenwin Precision Technology Co, with the aim of reducing the current workforce of 1,800 by 90 per cent to only about 200, Chen Xingqi, the chairman of the company’s board, was quoted as saying in the report.

 

Robots are set to take over in many factories in the Pearl River Delta, the area of southern China known as the ‘world’s workshop’ because of the huge export manufacturing industry there, as labour shortages bite and local authorities face the need to spur innovation to counter the economic slowdown.

 

Since September, a total of 505 factories across Dongguan have invested 4.2 billion yuan in robots, aiming to replace more than 30,000 workers, according to the Dongguan Economy and Information Technology Bureau.

 

By 2016, up to 1,500 of the city’s industrial enterprises will began replacing humans with robots.

 

The provincial capital, Guangzhou, has set a goal of fostering a robot-manufacturing industry with an output value of more than 100 billion yuan by 2020, as well as automating more than 80 per cent of the city’s manufacturing production.

I haven’t written much on this topic, but I did highlight a very powerful video last year in the post, Humans Need Not Apply – How Robots Will Take Over the Economy. Here’s the video once again:

 

Hopefully we won’t replace all these lost jobs with what David Graeber calls “bullshit” jobs.

 

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Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:19 | 6069851 gwar5
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Moar row boughts.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:23 | 6069867 Latina Lover
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Let's ask the Chinese to replace Congress with Robots.  They will vote and act the same but at least they will not steal and whore, unlike the current lot of congressional criminals.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:33 | 6069906 ParkAveFlasher
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If the Chinese ever invent a robot to hit ctrl-P, the jig is up!

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:55 | 6069979 walküre
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Every robot gets a condo in a ghost town as signing bonus

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:03 | 6070009 Antifaschistische
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Agriculture automation has come a long way, but until we have robots picking every fruit and vegetable grown in California, Arizona and Florida.....I'm not impressed.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 17:06 | 6070518 One Day Only
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Bring on that Chinese middle class!!

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 17:21 | 6070568 Eeyores Enigma
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 If anybody doesn't need robots..I thought the chinks were essentually robots already...I mean robots would be MOAR expensive, not cheaper..

 

(no chineese people were offended in the making of this comment)

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:35 | 6069919 KnuckleDragger-X
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Well the Chinese government has more or less been pushing the population into the cities as cheap labor in the factories, so what now? A huge unemployed population packed together is asking for trouble of the kind that the government has been working hard to suppress. Of course half their military funding is for internal forces, which they are gonna need.....

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:52 | 6069973 CrazyCooter
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Because of China's one-child policy, if I am not mistaken their workforce is basically cresting and will start to shrink as the years go by.

How this system stays balanced is probably a fairly messy affair - economy growing, labor pool shrinking, automation replacing labor, etc.

Regards,

Cooter

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:11 | 6070045 Antifaschistische
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Perhaps I'm older than everyone else on ZH.....but for the youngsters, I'll tell you, the "robots will replace all humans" scary story has been around for 35 years.  Change is slow...humans adapt, and humans build robots.    Yes, there's no reason why a high end vending machine can't replace everyone at Starbucks...but that technology already exists, and we still have humans...    Now, get a machine to do something hard (no offense intended to the Baristas)  like picking strawberries and then I'll be impressed.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 21:39 | 6071358 Swarmee
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Advances in microprocessing, computer vision, and rapid prototyping are quickly closing the gap between promise and realization with robotics. As for those strawberries? Well, there's a lot of people working that specifc problem, these are from 2013:

https://www.asme.org/engineering-topics/articles/robotics/smart-robots-f...

"This is not the first project involving such use of robots in agriculture, but it may be the most ambitious. A Spanish company, Agrobot, sells a robotic strawberry harvester that locates the berries, analyzes each fruit, and determines whether it’s ready for picking based on its size and color, and similar work also focusing on strawberries has been conducted in Japan. The British firm CMW Horticulture sells a crop-spraying robot for greenhouses and nurseries."

http://www.cnet.com/news/50000-strawberry-picking-robot-to-go-on-sale-in...

It may not be quite ready yet, but it's certainly coming. All it would take is one massive worker strike (pick any reason, maybe even an outbreak) where fields are left to rot and suddenly the cost-benefit of moving to automated harvesting could shift radically.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 16:11 | 6070312 Atomizer
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We can force the robots to vote using diebold voting machines. Weeeeeeeee. We can have some fun fucking with those droids. 

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 17:58 | 6070692 jdtexas
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China not replacing scum bag lawyers.....the world can't get enough of em

 

China’s Biggest Law Firm To Merge With Western Multinational Law Firm Dentons

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:43 | 6069932 Tek Kinkreet
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Everyone needs to be paid for the increase in productivity these robots enable, we also need to be paid back for the 300% increase in productivity stolen from us thus far. People should be working fewer hours with more pay instead of the opposite. The technology needed to this point was developed by our tax dollars over generations, the .001% should not be the only ones profitting, they are stealing. We could move into a class 1 society instead of a slave society. They are fooling themselves if they think they will be able to build walls high enough to avoid the mobs. Greed and hubris has always been their downfall.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:01 | 6070001 crisrose
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Nothing stopping you from building your own robot.  Nothing except your greed, stupidity and laziness that is.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:19 | 6070089 Tek Kinkreet
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Keep licking bankster ass, I have other plans.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:25 | 6070111 crisrose
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I'm no fan of bankers.  But without that fiat money there would be no technology for you to lay claim to.

A strong back and a low IQ don't cut it in the modern world.  Be grateful you had your time in the sun.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 16:01 | 6070198 Tek Kinkreet
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I have 2 degrees and am responsible for at least 10 innovations in my industry, all from which I saw absolutely no benefit. It all goes to the employer. This only to have my job phased out partly by my own innovations, they have no loyalty. If you aren't trolling, you are certainly kissing bankster ass having that attitude. You seem to think it's alright for public taxes to develop technology and have all that handed over to some corporation run by some politician's good buddy so he can sell us things for which we already paid. You are supporting crony capitalism and the slavery that comes with it and are not even smart enough to realize you are doing it. It's the exact same set up as the FED, making us borrow our own money and pay interest on it.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 16:52 | 6070469 crisrose
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Then you should have stepped aside and *sold* it to your employer instead of giving it away for free.  Unless you innovated on their dime - then it belongs to your employer.

The Fed doesn't make you borrow anything.  Federal Reserve Notes aren't 'ours' - it's currency of a private bank.    

US coins are interest free.  Use them.

 

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 17:19 | 6070565 Tek Kinkreet
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Meh, you were better in Lord of the Rings.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:20 | 6069859 williambanzai7
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Replace the robots with robots...

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:23 | 6069869 Skateboarder
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How many robots does it take to screw in a lightbulb? Probably just one, but it doesn't give a fuck whether the lights are on or not.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:56 | 6069988 walküre
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The movie "Robots" is one of my favorite animated movies. Way ahead of its time...

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:37 | 6070160 samsara
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"Why be YOU,  when you can be NEW?"

 

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:34 | 6069895 BLOTTO
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Well that's just it.

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They want us emotionless like a robot. Transhumanism - like a Borg.

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Danny Glover (PBA drug commercial): 'Do you ever sometimes laugh and then cry?'

A: Yes, its called having emotion's you stupid cunt.

.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqjT_YqmNas

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:45 | 6069942 PTR
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George Washington spoke about that some time ago:

 

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/01/welcome-matrix-enslaved-technolog...

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:41 | 6069930 HonkyShogun
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Replace the robots with robots...

Yes they did.

 

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:28 | 6069860 Kirk2NCC1701
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Just planning for Agenda 21, per my prior1,2 comments

 

[1] Wed, 04/22/2015 - 13:41 | 6018766  Kirk2NCC1701

     ... it would likely eliminate the dumbest 80% out of the gene pool, so that the fucking Neanderthals could no longer propagate.

[2] Wed, 05/06/2015 - 12:51 | 6066183 Kirk2NCC1701

     ... If the Top 10% owns 83% of Wealth assets, then what do TPTB need the Bottom 90% for -- in an age of dwindling resources, natural space, tech and automation?

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:59 | 6069993 walküre
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The Nazis had this idea of a genetically mutated master race and I don't think the research has ever stopped. Former high ranking Nazis were shielded by US authorities to continue the work.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:05 | 6070017 BeaverCream
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Too much history channel for you son.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 17:44 | 6070310 g'kar
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They made it a reality in the "Wolfenstein" game series.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:22 | 6069865 Tom Servo
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Machines building machines... oh my!

 

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:24 | 6069875 Cangaroo.TNT
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All those robots will need butlers, maids, and servants.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:25 | 6069876 pods
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This is going to go over well. Invite gabillions of peasants to filthy cities then replace them with robots.

lol.

pods

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:25 | 6069879 djsmps
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They predicted this years ago. Soon all humans will be able to lead a life of leisure while the robots do all the work.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:28 | 6069891 Osmium
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If the robots are doing all the work, why would we need all these humans?

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:38 | 6069924 NoWayJose
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We need humans to fight wars so that we can destroy robot factories in someone else's country, while protecting the robot factories in our own country!

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:43 | 6069936 agent default
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Yeah, we cannot allow a robot factory gap to develop.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:47 | 6069946 Tek Kinkreet
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wrong because drones

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:32 | 6070138 crisrose
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Wars are only needed to deflate the supply of peasants and inflate the debt supply to support the peasants who aren't wiped out in the war.

I see world peace on the horizon.  

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:13 | 6070065 Sudden Debt
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You give them 900 dollars a month, enouh to survive but not enouh to marry and have children. 

You keep that up for another 50 years and the population will have brought itself down in such a way that revolutions just can’t happen anymore.

And you’ll get a utopia on top that will have a wonderfull life. Those who own the robots.

but that will not be small companies. It will be just a few who own a billion robots each.

and they won’t care if inflation is 20% a year because of money printing to keep the poor fed. Their income will do so to. All they’ll care about is having a faster and smarter robot than the other guy.

so, in the next 20 years it might be a problem, in 50 years there won’t be enouh people arround to care anymore.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:28 | 6069892 i_call_you_my_base
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Hope that's sarcasm. The productivity gains will all go to the 1%ers and everyone else will live on government funding or in outright squalor.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:43 | 6069939 agent default
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And who will the 1% sell their factory products to?

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:50 | 6069960 slyhill
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They'll make a robot for that too

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:49 | 6070223 Tek Kinkreet
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They expect it all to crash and when it does, they will have control of all resources. All of these bubbles are them farming people and reaping the profits. If you want those resources, you will pay while they live like kings...until the plebs storm the castle.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:33 | 6069903 astoriajoe
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here's another prediction.

State provides all our state-determined needs.

One child allowed for those couples/women chosen in special lottery program.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:06 | 6070013 agent default
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You mean if you lose you have to have one.  Along with a wife.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 21:36 | 6071351 MEAN BUSINESS
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Here's another prediction: In less than ten generations (closer to five) most women will have adopted a zero-child policy 'voluntarily' and will be militant about it towards other women.

If we adopted a zero-child policy today we would still have enormous problems but of course the requisite political science isn't there. 'The System' would collapse overnight. The lottery wouldn't be acceptable to the 'elite', but it would work in theory. A global one-child policy would be a fair compromise. For an interesting peek at the potential dystopia, watch the film Children Of Men.

I will be very interested to read what The Pope has to say about go-forth-and-multiply this summer...

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 22:50 | 6071565 Abbie Normal
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If 90% decide not to have babies, there won't be much beyond the 15th generation.

Fri, 05/08/2015 - 09:04 | 6072449 MEAN BUSINESS
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That is probably true, but there won't be much, if any, after nuclear WW3 or catastrophic climate change. Sooner rather than later there will likely be a small club and we won't be in it. Do we go there proactively with dignity or via the tried and true (and horrific) Neolithic method? Either way, if we make that transition successfully then perhaps humans will again be able to go-forth-and-multiply. It would undoubtedly be an extremely automated/robotic/AI world. One big happy family?

"I don't have faith in Faith. I don't believe in Belief

 You can call me faithless, you can call me faithless

But I still cling to Hope and I believe in Love

And that's faith enough for me, and that's faith enough for me."

RUSH / Snakes And Arrows / Faithless / 2007

Fri, 05/08/2015 - 15:13 | 6073742 agent default
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Ever heard of the marriage strike?  It is the men who have begun to adopt this policy some  time ago.

Sat, 05/09/2015 - 01:14 | 6075193 MEAN BUSINESS
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"Little girls are delicate. They brush up on their etiquette.

 Giggle and play hard to get.

 Little boys are tough as pricks. They brush up on their politics.

 Become heros become mavericks.

Devious Nature!" - Lisa Dal Bello

------------------------------------

"Boys and Girls together

 paint the mirror black

 The Mirror always lies..."- RUSH

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Rest assured the 'elite' (and billions of idiots) will continue to marry / procreate. Why? Because if you don't you're probably a terrrsssst ; )

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:26 | 6069884 sandman.s
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Man, this is a fucked up world we live in.  Humans and their greed.  It shouldn't shock but it still does.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:54 | 6069977 chunga
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I guess it doesn't matter when everybody get's fired and no longer have any money to buy anything, otherwise it wouldn't happen.

Humans with jobs and money must now be considered obsolete.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:09 | 6070037 mtl4
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Good point, so if we finally get to robot nirvana who the hell is gonna buy all the crap they make?!

 

I think the part the video is missing is that unlike horses, humans can pick up their guns and change the game a bit when large numbers are unemployed.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:53 | 6070244 Tek Kinkreet
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They won't have to make anything, they will control all resources. You want to survive? You will pay.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:27 | 6069885 blabam
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So first we bash China for shitty working conditions... now we bash the robots? Progress...

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:27 | 6069886 Platinum
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You can replace politicians with one of those Bullshit detected buttons on the cheap.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:30 | 6069896 hoist the bs flag
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driven by worker shortages "...riiiiight...

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:32 | 6069902 knukles
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Obviously.  That's why they're firing 90% of the workforce who will thence starve to death and thus, be scarce.
Got it covered, my man.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:40 | 6069918 hoist the bs flag
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 or... maybe Foxxcon and the like are just tired of cleaning blood off the streets and paying for the installation of suicide nets. they should get some robots for that.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:49 | 6069956 Tek Kinkreet
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A small % will starve to death, a larger % will get tired of this shit and finally do what it takes.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:30 | 6069897 1stepcloser
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we Johnny 5'd some folks

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:42 | 6069914 Kirk2NCC1701
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No, they got TERMINATED.

Don't worry, they won't be the last

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:33 | 6070150 samsara
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I can't RECALL anything funnier.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:51 | 6069965 slyhill
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cracks me up every time

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:31 | 6069901 Flash44
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This is not just happening in China. Its going to be the US as well. Then what do we do with all the illegal aliens

that are going to be legalized. Why give them more of what little is left of what I earn !

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:11 | 6070053 silverer
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Well, you need something for the robots to do, right?  Wouldn't want the robots unemployed, would you?

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:32 | 6070146 giggler321
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Wait for the Robo unions to start - then I'll have my job back thanks.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:33 | 6069904 knukles
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Just wait till the Daleks report for the 8 a.m. shift

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:33 | 6069907 OutaTime43
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Learn how to fix the robots. Job security.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:49 | 6069953 hoist the bs flag
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they got robots for that

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:10 | 6069999 silverer
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They'll be designed as modular so robots can do the repairs as well.  Let's face it:  Robots can't get high.  That will now be the full time pursuit of humanity.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:33 | 6069909 NoWayJose
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We have to find and protect JOHN CONNOR!

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:40 | 6069928 Osmium
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I'm filling out the forms to change my name to John Connor right now.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:35 | 6069912 texas sandman
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Loaded at a water bottling plant in Wisconsin the other day...new plant...was told to make sure I was square and centered to dock, I would be loaded by robots.  I had seen robot forklifts staging product, bit this was a first.. Goodbye warehouse jobs too.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:42 | 6069934 Atomizer
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Hope you retire soon. Your job is next. I certainly hope not. 

Mercedes-Benz Future Truck 2025 | World Premiere

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7bFc0rBoFY8

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:46 | 6069945 agent default
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With all this automated RF networked crap the Tesla coil will become the ultimate terrorist weapon.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:35 | 6069917 Atomizer
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The new African Union will be spanning new job opportunities. 

Central planning created the word, gypsies. That's how they control the market. Pushing people into underdeveloped emerging banking fox dens. 

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:43 | 6069937 Stormtrooper
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So, will the robots be receiving a paycheck so that there will be someone (thing) to purchase all of the products that they make? Will the robots making McD's burgers be equipped to eat those burgers? Or will they find themselves furloughed due to lack of demand? They can join us humanoids in foraging for nuts and berries.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:40 | 6069927 lasvegaspersona
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When robots can BS I'll worry about my job.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:54 | 6069975 i_call_you_my_base
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Just wait until I perfect my LieBot5000.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:07 | 6070025 BeaverCream
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You can input all the writings of federal reserve chairmen, should come out perfect.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:42 | 6069933 Dr. Engali
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Hmmmm, I seem to remember reading some where about keeping the global population below 500,000 people. This gets us one step closer. The proles are no longer needed by the elites.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:48 | 6069949 Atomizer
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Georgia Guidestones. 

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:50 | 6069959 hoist the bs flag
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...was built by robots.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:10 | 6070044 Atomizer
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No.

The Georgia Guidestones: America's Most Mysterious Monument

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yIfU41BICf4

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:11 | 6070060 hoist the bs flag
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these are the jokes people...forgot my <<sarc> tag again

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:39 | 6070170 Atomizer
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I didn't down vote you. No worries. 

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:47 | 6070212 hoist the bs flag
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no probs. its all good...this is fight club, bound to take some hits anyway. :)

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:27 | 6070116 Toolshed
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Robots are great for manufacturing. When it comes to repairing, not so much. There will always be a need for repair techs of all kinds........especially for those buggy robots.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:49 | 6069955 1stepcloser
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All this and not one BJ bot... So are hookers safe...I gota know...

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:50 | 6069958 Spungo
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Who cares? 90% of secretaries were replaced by robots. 90% of farmers were replaced by robots. 

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 19:53 | 6071001 Bazza McKenzie
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Largely false.  A tractor and mechanical harvesting equipment were not robots.  They had no autonomous intelligence and mainly expanded the physical capacity of the person operating them.

You don't see many robot secretaries yet.  Things like word processing software displaced many secretaries but simply by dispersing much of their function across the individuals who generated the content to be typed in the first place.  That removed some specific roles but still dispersed most of the work across other people.

It is certainly true that at one time the bulk of man's effort went into producing food and rudimentary shelter.  Then mechanisation (not robotisation) and improvement in agricultural techniques allowed a huge but progressive shift from agriculture into manufacture which, fortuitously, needed man's combination of intelligence and physical capacity, together with learning ability, in single units (i.e. people).

Robots bring a combination of relevant intelligence and physical capacity to tasks that will exceed that of individuals.

What is the cost of bearing, raising and educating a child in a developed society? $250K? $500K?  What is, and what will be the cost of producing a robot to replace a child? -- a fraction of that amount, and that is without worrying about the ongoing cost of their respective maintenance.

Mankind is inefficient compared to robots.  While we can learn from one another and our forbears, each human has to learn individually.  Since robots are controlled by electronic software, they don't need to learn individually, the software is transplantable and so skills that take each human many years to acquire can be implanted in each instance of a robot instantaneously.

These developments massively devalue human beings and their capabilities and thus their employability and ability to earn any income sufficient to sustain them at the level we now take for granted.

Aside from ever growing numbers of government employees and waiters and bartenders (also soon to be displaced by robots), unlike the era of the move of jobs from agriculture to manufacturing and functions that supported manufacturing, there are no visible large scale work alternatives.

Not sure where this is going to end (once you add in autonomous warfare drones, automated control of all communications and financial transactions, etc) but not only are these changes a massive difference from what has previously occurred with mechanisation they are happening extremely swiftly, almost certainly far faster than the capacity of most of mankind to adapt.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:52 | 6069969 pauhana
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Unemployment coming to a country near you.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:52 | 6069971 joseJimenez
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Hope they are working on consumer bots because a jobless society can't buy.  Or...  are we going to be here at all?

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 14:56 | 6069983 gwar5
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Call me the minute they make viable Hookerbots so I can place my order. No fatties. Gene Rodenberry was onto something.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:22 | 6070100 BeaverCream
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If it was real life, those holodecks wouldn't be recreating sherlock holmes episodes.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:24 | 6070107 Toolshed
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I don't know about hookerbots, but I am totally in favor of synthetic women. I don't like to share, or lease. However, I very much want to own.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:27 | 6070119 BeaverCream
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Do you think this might cause a racial outcry from libby progressive types that the "hookerbots of color" aren't getting as much attention?  Similar to the doll phenomena.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:01 | 6070000 cougar_w
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The last skim of the last store of accumulated labor value, performed by the last capitalist standing. China.

Mao would not be amused.

That aside, now it gets interesting. Now we get to see how your "invisible hand" deals with not having any stored up value to strip-mine. My guess is, not well. The robots will not be interested in buying anything they produce. And nobody else will have the means. This can roll on for maybe a few years on momentum and free money debt, but the end when it comes will not be pretty.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:29 | 6070125 samsara
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Great to see you back Cougar.  My post above was on the same wavelength as your points.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:36 | 6070155 joseJimenez
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One possibility is "transhumanism".  These sociopaths wants population diminished to 500 million and most of those remaining will be blend or humans and machines cyborgs.  These nutjobs are already planning to upload their  consciousness to bots that will leave for ever.   These wackos will stop at nothing to end humanities.  Even when it means ending their own existence.  Welcome to the brave new world.

 

The economic problem still remains. But remember the part about being a Wacko?

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:55 | 6070255 Cow
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i guess Henry Ford should not have worried himself trying that assembly line stuff. 

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:15 | 6070047 Rusputin
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Robots cannot replace humans. They can do simple repetitive tasks but a human will always be way cheaper and better.

Reason being maximum information and peak technology, which we are now at.

iRobot for example, great movie, but not possible in nature; to a very limited extent yes but not possible as portrayed by any extensive means.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:24 | 6070106 hoist the bs flag
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"maximum information and peak technology, which we are now at."

why do you say that? interesting...

Thu, 05/14/2015 - 16:44 | 6094321 Rusputin
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It is interesting, but also a natural law...

Information makes up our universe; energy is just information at high speed, mass is information in status.

The sun is the fastest information can move in a hydrogen fusion reaction. A bullet (the charge) is the fastest a chemical reaction can occur in nature, an information interaction, not a reaction as we always think. A photon travels at light speed, but why no faster, it is exchanging information. Information is a transmission to another dimension (the information field of you like) this transfer creates gravity - a reaction to that transfer, all the forces of nature can be explained this way.

So information has a maximum limit, and our brains represent the best you can do in nature, there is a maximum processing limit and so there must be maximum technology - e.g. the bullet cannot get better in nature, nothing can exceed the processing limit and we are there now!

Thankfully, there is much hope and dreams because we cannot be at peak design, that is unlimited. Combining technology in different ways is the stuff of dreams, though our underlying technology will not be much better in a billion years, but think how good our designs will be :-) OK there will be a few technology surprises along the way ;-)

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:38 | 6070168 NoWayJose
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Did you see the report on NBC news about 18 wheelers driving themselves?  Or self-parking cars?

I agree that there will always be some jobs that humans can do that outperform a robot -- but give robots their due -- they are constantly getting smarter and faster and better able to interact with the world around them.

Thu, 05/14/2015 - 15:49 | 6094259 Rusputin
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Forget MSM, they always embellish. Unfortunately this will never happen, it cannot in nature.

Ever wondered why your laptop is still as slow as it was in 2000? Because it can't go any faster.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:44 | 6070191 taketheredpill
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There is a TREND here, but it's very hard to see because we're at the bottom of an exponential curve.

 

 

Thu, 05/14/2015 - 15:36 | 6094192 Rusputin
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The trend stopped a few years ago, Moore's law is invalid!

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 16:22 | 6070354 SweetDoug
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Where the @#$% you been for the last 30 years, you dope!?

 

Have you even read the article?!?

 

It's called " Chinese Company Moves To Replace 90% Of Its Workforce With Robots"
 
Not  "Chinese Company Moves To Replace 90% Of Its Robots Workforce With Humans "

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Thu, 05/14/2015 - 15:35 | 6094184 Rusputin
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I know :-() but it's totally wrong!

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:27 | 6070117 samsara
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Hmm,  What's worse than having 100 million people out of work?

Having 800 million people put out of work.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:28 | 6070122 Big Brother
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I can't really tell from the pictures.  Who's making the robots referenced in the article?  Can anyone tell?  A good time to be in the robot-making business.  I should have become an electrical engineer.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:32 | 6070144 BeaverCream
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Robot making robots, duh.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:32 | 6070136 BeaverCream
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There's a natural degradation of the human spirit and a perversion of a human mind when physical labor is completely removed from our lives.

Basically the "house wife with servants on heroin" syndrome.  Life without struggle and sacrifice and pain is a life not worth living for most, especially those with Low IQs.

Fri, 05/08/2015 - 00:31 | 6070176 Salsipuedes
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          Psycho Haiku    

  The drone delivered my SX LUX 3000.

Can hand-do laundry and back massages simultaneously.

                    The wife blew her brains out.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:44 | 6070194 Downtoolong
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Chinese factory robots. Beause hey, when labor rates get to $0.15 per hour you have to do something to cut costs, right?

Next thing you know we'll have Chinese and Mexican robots in America taking the jobs of illegal Chinese and Mexican immigrants who took our jobs.  

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 15:51 | 6070232 q99x2
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This technology is perfect for a civilization that no greater than 10,000,000 is allowed to be owned by either an individual or a corporation. All we need now is the civilization.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 16:05 | 6070266 SweetDoug
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'DO THE MATH!
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The provincial authorities of Guangdong said early this year they would spend 943 billion yuan on replacing human labour with robots within the next three years.
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a total of 505 factories across Dongguan have invested 4.2 billion yuan in robots, aiming to replace more than 30,000 workers
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The number of people that are potentially on the chopping block in the next three years?

943 billion/4.2 = 225     ->     225 x 30, 000 = 6, 735, 000

Unless of course, as we’ve been told, robots are being used to take away jobs…

And don’t worry, robots are predicted to get faster, more sophisticated, more ‘intelligent’ or cheaper in the next few years!

Oh… Yeah.

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‘as labour shortages bite and local authorities face the need to spur innovation to counter the economic slowdown.
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As the ßµ££$?φers like to say…

Let’s unpack this statement and take a deep dive into the ideas present here.

AYFKing? ‘labour shortages’?

2 + 2 = 4 Not ?  5

You can’t have ‘labour shortages’ with an economic slowdown, you morons.

But let’s not let my big mouth get in the way!

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A total of 1,000 robots would be introduced at the factory initially,… with the aim of reducing the current workforce of 1,800 by 90 per cent to only about 200,
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Way to help those ‘labour shortages’ Chen Xingqi-blah-blah-blah!!

In China? If only they had the largest population in the world of any country, that was willing to work for peanuts, $3/hr.

This is bullshit of the most egregious degree, disingenuous and intellectually dishonest.

Game theory this out as we increase ‘labour shortages’ which are replaced by robots…

Oh… I think I just did.

There’s IS NO labour shortage in China. Cut. The. Crap.

These are the lies and spinning starting, to hid what the real impact and agenda is, like the little waves, and to fool those dopes on that beach in Indonesia, “Oh-hh-hh! Honey! Look at the pretty wave!” like Edith Bunker. Did you ever see that video. You know what happens, eh?

And what’s really scarey, is the lack of critical analysis by the complacent, complicit media.

Yeah, but then again, how inquiring is the ‘South China Morning Post’ gonna really be?

It’s coming: The robotic/AI revolution.

If you thought the manufacturing route of last several decades was a bummer, you ain’t seen nuttin’ yet.

What’s China going to do with millions of drunken, crystal meth’d, horny, single, unemployed, men in 20 years, if not 5 years?

“Thad’ll neva happen Swe’Doug!”

Remember how fast fax machines appeared, starting the late 80’s into the 90’s? And remember how the Internet and PDF’s replaced them?

Exactly.

What are we going to do with our population as these robots start eatiing into the remaining employed base?

And no, we’re not all going to be writing code or repairing robots. Robots will be repairing robots—And they’re not going to be made like the crap their producing, designed to break down and become obsolete after a few years.—and again, no, I won’t be buying your hanging lion macrema art, either.

Who’s going to pay for the social welfare?

The deflation that’s coming is going to be ‘epic’ in that great, but overused, BI modifier.

What’s frightening is not only the lack of discussion on this issue, without the lies, but the outright lying that going on in the marketing of this issue, designed to head-fake us, like they’re slowly letting a really awful fart out, hoping to spread it around quickly, so nobody knows who dropped it.

In the end, it never really matters who did, as everyone finally gets a good whiff and ends up running for their lives.

There’s just one problem with this beaut: There’s no place to run.

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V-V

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 23:49 | 6071726 Salsipuedes
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Sweet, true and sad.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 16:13 | 6070324 Tek Kinkreet
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If you guys really want to see where this is heading, watch Ghost in the Shell. Soon, in an attempt to live forever, we will all have parts owned by the man, then repossession takes on a whole new meaning. Welcome to techno-slavery. Poor Blind Mag is only our future reflection. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVTAf4FAXaU

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 16:14 | 6070325 SweetDoug
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The World’s First Self-Driving Semi-Truck Hits the Road
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http://www.wired.com/2015/05/worlds-first-self-driving-semi-truck-hits-r...
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Again, let’s unpack the meme being presented here, the idea that ‘This technology isn’t going to take your job.” This is the first big T-sandwich they’re shoving down your throat.

This is what is frightening, the ‘hiding-in-plain-sight’ presentation that gives you one side, then purports to give you the other, to deliberately cause ‘argument’ but more so, obfuscation.

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That's also why the company has no intention of ditching drivers. Instead, in this new autonomous world, the driver would be more of an on-board logistics manager.
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Uh-huh… Anyone believe this? But read on as they start to contradict themselves.

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So it’s no surprise some of the country’s largest freight carriers have in recent years started equipping their vehicles with active safety features like lane control and automatic braking. The economic case for these measures—the predecessors to fuller autonomy—is clear, says Noël Perry, an economist who specializes in transportation and logistics.

There’s no reason these companies won’t want to go for more. “They all love this.”
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Another point in favor of giving robots control is the serious and worsening shortage of humans willing to take the wheel. The lack of qualified drivers has created a “capacity crisis,” according to an October 2014 report by the American Transportation Research Institute. The American Trucking Associations predicts the industry could be short 240,000 drivers by 2022. (There are roughly three million full-time drivers in the US.)
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The way to handle that growth isn’t to convince more people to become long haul truckers. It’s to reduce, and eventually eliminate, the role of the human. Let the trucks drive themselves, and you can improve safety, meet increased demand, and save time and fuel.
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Notice how this article presents the same sandwich?

Construction has begun on the first all-robot manufacturing plant in China
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http://www.businessinsider.com/construction-has-begun-on-the-first-all-r...

Notice the lines…
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“as labour shortages bite and local authorities face the need to spur innovation to counter the economic slowdown.”
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Uh-huh…

But continue reading…
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A truck that controls itself even some of the time could also ease the driver shortage, Perry says. If you can make driving easier, you may be able to ease the qualifications for a commercial license, lowering a barrier to entry for newcomers (and probably lowering wages). One of the toughest tasks for a human could be done with no problem by a machine: Backing up. Plenty of consumer cars on the market now offer self-parking, having a truck do the same is just a matter of tweaking the software.
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AND THE CONCLUSION AFTER ALL THE OBFUSCATING DOUBLE-TALK AND ßµ££$?φ?

The end game is eliminating the need for human drivers, at least for highway driving.

Then, the contradictory idea again, pure, unadultered, 100% ßµ££$?φ at the end…
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In his book Rise of the Robots: Technology and the Threat of a Jobless Future, Martin Ford writes, “While the trucks may indeed soon be able to essentially drive themselves, the staggering destructive potential of these vehicles probably means that someone is going to remain in the driver’s seat for the foreseeable future.” That’s Daimler’s line, too, (minus the destruction talk). “We don’t want to get rid of drivers,” says Sven Ennerst, head of Daimler Trucks’ development department. “We want to make their lives more efficient and more easy.”
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There is no shortage of workers either in China, or in the trucking industry.

There are millions of people that are desperate for jobs, who would take a high-paying, or paying job as a truck driver.

To say otherwise, is simply disingenuous and intellectually dishonest.

This is what is the real issue, as media starts parroting and repeating the meme that this is all gonna be good for the workers.

An utter lie.

In 10 years, trucks won’t need ANYBODY to drive them.

THAT’S THE END GAME.

But thanks for coming out!

Now, why aren’t we having a conversation about what were going to do with all the unemployed, who will be served up bread and circuses, while drunk and fornicating, make future unemployed for the idiocracy, until we decide to offer free birth control, or sterilization, and then, when that doesn’t work?…

The transition period is going to be just awful as we simply don’t need the numbers of meat machines to do the jobs anymore.

The transportation industry makes up ?16% of the employment in N.A.

What will they do in 10 years when 50-80% of it is gone?

And no… We’re not all going to be repairing robots or writing code. As my buddy’s 12 year old said, “No-ooo Swee’Doug! Robots will repair robots!”

And no… I won’t want to buy your hanging macrame lion art, either.

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Thu, 05/07/2015 - 16:15 | 6070328 Atomizer
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Can't wait to see the new robot union. The carbon credits tax will land them into the streets. 

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 16:16 | 6070331 g'kar
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With robots replacing humans as workers, will they replace customers with robots as well?

 

"The disposal units ran night and day. We were that close to going out forever. But there was one man who taught us to fight, to storm the wire of the camps" (Terminator)

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 16:27 | 6070370 Atomizer
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It's a perpetual circle of laughter. Our NGO clan watched too many Jetson cartoons. 

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 17:23 | 6070446 g'kar
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Those were friendlier times (Jetsons).

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 16:21 | 6070344 PrimalScream
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This doesn't lead to UTOPIA.

This leads to a Planet where a large amount of humanity, and all the robots, are economic slaves.  The ONLY way that those human beings can IMPROVE their lives ... is if someone in the economic system gives them a shot at bettering themselves ... i.e. upward mobility towards better jobs.  BUT if robots are taking the better jobs, then the mass of humanity is left picking fruit and cleaning up garbage.

During the NEXT 35 years on Earth, another 2 billion people will be added to our planet.  That's right ... 2,000,000,000 people. 

WHERE are most of these people going to LIVE?

Answer - ghettos!!

So if the world's ghetto population increases by 2 billion people, does this look like Utopia to you?  The TRUTH is that incidents like Ferguson and Baltimore are just a BLIP on the radar ... compared to what's coming.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 17:46 | 6070513 1Inthebeginning
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Seek truth are you out there?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul5oQ3wbstQ

 

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 17:46 | 6070643 Tek Kinkreet
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No, just us peasants.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 20:16 | 6071080 1Inthebeginning
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Trust the earth.  What you put into her she gives back. God is good.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 17:48 | 6070653 1Inthebeginning
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yt vid on technocracy above

 

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 18:47 | 6070832 DaveA
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Robots are cheap because of artificially low interest rates, and humans are expensive because of welfare benefits and minimum-wage laws. Take the dead hand of government off the scale and things will even out very quickly.

Robots will never wipe out humans because they don't consume the same resources we do. Worst case, you'll have wealthy cities of genius engineers building cool robots for each other, and normal people in the country growing their own food by hand.

http://radoxist.deviantart.com/art/Worth-enough-73247873

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 19:16 | 6070914 mijev
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The easiest jobs to replace are those of politicians - no need for a robot as you could just use an app similar as a facebook "like" to cast a vote - but I guess that won't happen so quickly.

Thu, 05/07/2015 - 22:11 | 6071441 Atticus Finch
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And as robots spread around the world, just who is going to buy all these products created by robots?

Fri, 05/08/2015 - 00:36 | 6071737 Salsipuedes
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THE ROBOTS! With "Robo-bucks" ("RnBs"). Get with the program dude.

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